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Yankees mourn Gil McDougald

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Nov 29, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Obit McDougald BaseballThe Yankees announced today that former infielder Gil McDougald passed away at home on Sunday.

The New York Yankees mourn the passing of former player Gil McDougald, who died of prostate cancer at age 82 on Sunday at his home in Wall Township, N.J.

McDougald played his entire 10-year Major League career (1951-60) with the Yankees and was a member of eight Yankees pennant-winning teams (1951-53, ’55-58 and ’60) and five World Championship clubs (1951-53, ’56 and ’58). In 1,336 career games as a versatile infielder, he batted .276 (1,291-for-4,676) with 112 home runs and 576 RBI, while logging 599 games as a second baseman, 508 games as a third baseman and 284 games at shortstop.

In 1951, he became the first Yankee to win the American League “Rookie of the Year” Award, batting .306 (123-for-402) with 72 runs scored, 14 home runs, 63 RBI and a .396 on-base percentage. On three occasions, he finished in the Top 10 in AL MVP voting (ninth in 1951, seventh in 1956, and fifth in 1957).

A native of San Francisco, Calif., McDougald was an All-Star in five different seasons (1952, ’56-’59), including two All-Star Games in 1959. In the 1958 contest at Baltimore’s Memorial Stadium, he drove home the game-winning run with a sixth-inning single in a 4-3 American League win.

McDougald batted over .300 twice – .306 in 1951 and a career-high .311 in 1956 – and set a personal best with 83 RBI in 1953.

McDougald is survived by his wife, Lucille, their seven children (Christine, Gilbert Jr., Tod, Denise, Courtney Ann, John and Matthew), 14 grandchildren and 7 great-grandchildren.

Private funeral services will be held on Friday, December 3, in New Jersey.

In lieu of flowers, donations may be made in his name toward charities that assist with cochlear implants, those that work toward finding a cure for prostate cancer or to the charity of the donor’s choosing.

STATEMENTS FROM FORMER YANKEES:

“Gil was a great guy, well-liked by the team and a helluva ballplayer. He was a good fielder and was always a fierce competitor.”
– Whitey Ford

“Before I was traded to the Yankees, Gil and I played against each other in the minors in the Texas League. He was always one of the most serious guys out there, and he loved to win. But Gil was also a person who got along well with everyone. He was always in good spirits.”
– Bob Turley

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244 Responses to “Yankees mourn Gil McDougald”

  1. BTX November 29th, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    Buster_ESPN
    Sources: Rockies shortstop Troy Tulowitzki is closing in on a new mega-deal that could be as long as 10 years.

  2. GreenBeret7 November 29th, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    SAS November 29th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
    GB,

    He was an integral part of those wonderful 50’s teams. I remember him well. That era in baseball is disappearing quickly now.

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    So few left now. Ford, Berra, Skowron, Richardson and Kubek are about it. It’ll be a pretty hollow OTD now.

  3. GreenBeret7 November 29th, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    McDougal came up as a rookie in 1951 and was ROY. Nice but, he came up with Mantle. He could play anywhere and did. Always a top “clutch” WS player. That one at bat was almost his last. He said that if Score lost the eye, he was quitting, and he never was the same player after that. As it turned out, he was finished a couple of years later because of an ear infection cost him his hearing and his equilibrium. The guy could flat out hit. The last game that I ever saw him play live was in 1960 in Detroit. 20 September. 2-3 with 2 walks and 2 solo homers against Paul Foytack. Mantle got the headlines though because of a 3 run homer that left Tiger stadium over the top of the right center field stands, into a lumber yard across the street. A nice guy and very humble in every interview I’ve seen.

  4. GreenBeret7 November 29th, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    Forget Tulowitzski until he’s 37.

    Rockies, Tulowitzki Nearing Ten-Year Extension
    By Ben Nicholson-Smith [November 29 at 8:30pm CST]
    The Rockies are nearing a ten-year extension with shortstop Troy Tulowitzki, according to ESPN.com’s Keith Law. Tulowitzki is midway through the six-year, $31MM extension he signed before the 2008 season. The new deal may overwrite the minimum three years and $25.75MM that the Rockies still owe.

  5. Tom in N.J. November 29th, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    He was my father’s favorite player.

  6. Nick in SF November 29th, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    “The Yankees can offer whatever they want – and Pettitte Jeter can take the offer or not.”

    Agreed.

  7. Giuseppe Franco November 29th, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    # mick November 29th, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    GF

    The Rangers have enough to offer Lee. They could get Andy for less.
    The Yanks won’t give him 2 years and will prob. top out at 11.5.
    You mean to say he would walk away from 20/2?
    That’s a lot of dough and he likes being home with his boys.

    ———–

    You don’t know what the Yanks would offer Pettitte or what the Rangers could afford.

    His boys also like dad being a Yankee and playing for a shot at the WS every year.

    I don’t get why people get so caught up in stupid offseason hot stove rumors. Most of them are total BS and speculation by people who aren’t in the know.

    You have to shovel through a lot of crap to find any info worth a damn.

    If Pettitte plays next season, it will be in pinstripes. Bank on it.

  8. RobertGKramer@AOL.Com November 29th, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    The rookie McDougald had one of the weirdest batting stances with his left foot way in the bucket and the bat drooping below horizontal. I believe he is still the only rookie with a grand slam in the World Series!

  9. blake November 29th, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    “Forget Tulowitzski until he’s 37.”

    boo

  10. GreenBeret7 November 29th, 2010 at 9:49 pm

    Pettitte hasn’t even decided to play or not, much less make a demand and Texas denies even talking contract with him. He left in 2003, because NYY waited so long to make an offer because of other player. There were concerns about his elbow and NYYs weren’t sure about a long term deal. As it turns out, the concerns were appropriate. He hurt his elbow on a harmless check swing

  11. GreenBeret7 November 29th, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    If he was even playing in Texas, he’d be more likely to go back with Houston. He’s a Yankee or a retired player.

  12. blake November 29th, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    SI_JonHeyman

    1. new tulo deal would pick up 4th year option and add 6 years making it a 10-year deal in all. keith law 1st mentioned extension. #rockies

  13. yankee21 November 29th, 2010 at 10:00 pm

    If Tulo is indeed signed to that contract value, that is quite the play for a mid-salary team like COL.

    I like Tulo as a SS for about 2-3 more years, after that, they’ll more than likely need to find another position for him.

  14. GreenBeret7 November 29th, 2010 at 10:00 pm

    Well Blake, I guess having a high dollar 35 year old shortstop will be just the ticket for the Yankees. They will have some experience with that.

  15. blake November 29th, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    GB7,

    Yea we’ll see. Love Tulo, but thats a pretty big risk for the Rockies….they can only hope he lives up to his 10 year deal the way Jeter lived up to his.

  16. GreenBeret7 November 29th, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    Right now, his biggest issue is staying away from freak injuries.

  17. yankee21 November 29th, 2010 at 10:09 pm

    If he wants to stay at SS, the other issue he needs to manage is the ole’ knife and fork.

  18. GreenBeret7 November 29th, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    he’s the same size as Jeter and smaller than Rodriguez in 2003. unless he broke his wrist picking up a knife and fork, I doubt that was the problem.

  19. blake November 29th, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    Rockies Close To Three-Year Deal With De La Rosa
    By Ben Nicholson-Smith [November 29 at 9:06pm CST]

    It’s a big day for the Rockies. Not only are they nearing a mega-deal with their All-Star shortstop, they’re close to a three-year contract with Jorge de la Rosa, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (on Twitter). De La Rosa and teammate Troy Tulowitzki are both represented by TWC Sports.

    One backup plan…(though I never thought it would be), might be gone soon.

  20. LGY November 29th, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    I like Tulo as a SS for about 2-3 more years, after that, they’ll more than likely need to find another position for him.

    ****

    Are you mistaking Tulo for Jetes? ;)

  21. blake November 29th, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    I think Tulo can play SS for awhile….its tough to play it as long as Jeter has but its possible. He’s much more likely to stay there longterm than Hanley IMO

  22. BTX November 29th, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    All of our Plan Bs are off the board… De La Rosa, Garland, Kuroda, Westbrook

  23. yankee21 November 29th, 2010 at 10:15 pm

    He’s 20 lbs heavier than Jeter (acc to Baseball Ref) and 10 years younger.

    He’s getting big for a SS.

  24. blake November 29th, 2010 at 10:15 pm

    I think the real Plan B would be via trade if Lee stays in Texas.

  25. blake November 29th, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    SI_JonHeyman

    tulo’s 6-year extension is believed to be worth about $120, bringing the 10-year total to about $160 mil. #rockies 2 minutes ago via web

    wow, big deal for the Rocks.

  26. GreenBeret7 November 29th, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    Garland, Kuroda, Westbrook weren’t even plan Z

  27. blake November 29th, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    Wonder why the Rockies felt compelled to do this now when they have him locked up for the next 4 seasons anyway. Tulo figures to be very good for a long time but projecting that far down the road is risky for an organization like that…..what if gets injured in the next 4 years and is never the same, its not like they got some great bargain on the extension….20 million per for 6 years. Congrats to them for locking him up but they can’t eat salary like the Yankees can if it doesn’t work out.

  28. LGY November 29th, 2010 at 10:24 pm

    de la Rosa would get eaten alive in the AL Beast

  29. Yogi Mantle November 29th, 2010 at 10:31 pm

    blake, I think this move for Tulo stems from not having Holiday locked up. They want to keep him rather than seeing him go.

  30. GreenBeret7 November 29th, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    Over the last 6 years of Tulowitzki’s contract. It will be for present Jeter money. $19.5 mil a year.

  31. pat November 29th, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    Moyer is going to have Tommy John Surgery but plans to pitch again next year at age 49. First MLB player to go from salary to social security without missing a pay period?

  32. blake November 29th, 2010 at 10:36 pm

    Yogi,

    Maybe, but they have him until 2014 already….just seems like its adding unnecessary risk to do it this early to me, but hey….its their money, as I said…they had just better hope he lives up to a deal that long because few players have.

  33. Drivenbyjeter2 November 29th, 2010 at 10:36 pm

    Honestly, Plan B better not happen because Cashman is doing such a horrible job so far that by the time he gets to it, plan B, C, D…etc will already be off the boards.

    He’s playing HARDBALL with the two of the biggest Yankees in history and are still a major core of the team. Jeter will probably hit .300 next year and Mo will again do what he’s always done. Mo hasnt even shown signs of letting down. I’d sign him to a 3 year deal. I dont know what he’s thinking.

    And because of his “games”, he’s not focusing on other Free Agents that could possibly help the club! I think they should trade Gardner or Granderson with some prospects for a good 3 spot pitcher and then Sign Crawford. (that way Jeter doesnt have to bat at the top of the order, and crawford provides a WHOLE new dimension).

    Lets say…. Gardner, Romine, Nova, Nunez for Zach Grienke (and maybe some other crap player)?

    Roation:
    Lee
    CC
    Grienke
    Hughes
    Pettite/Burnett

    Lineup: Crawford, Swisher, Cano, Arod, Tex, Posada, Jeter, Montero, Granderson

    **I like how that looks….If we dont trade for Grienke, i still trade Gardner for a bullpen arm, sign Crawford, and maybe sign a guy like Brandon Webb has a low risk/high reward guy.

  34. GreenBeret7 November 29th, 2010 at 10:38 pm

    Bluster Only’s report of the Mets nearing a deal on Chris Young has been blown out of the water. somebody elses report says the mets are only interested.

    Today is a perfect example of why you don’t believe these scoops and inside info. nobody had the scoop on Tulowitzki and they’ve screwed up every other”breaking news item”.

  35. SJ44 November 29th, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    Get a grip. He’s not playing hardball with anybody.

    It’s a contract negotiation.

    If you dont have the stomach for it, go play video games until it’s completed.

    Honestly, the whine and stupid factor rises to an all-time high on here with this stuff.

  36. GreenBeret7 November 29th, 2010 at 10:41 pm

    pat November 29th, 2010 at 10:34 pm
    Moyer is going to have Tommy John Surgery but plans to pitch again next year at age 49. First MLB player to go from salary to social security without missing a pay period?

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    LMAO. cute
    Hoyt Wilhelm may have been close, though Satchel Paige and Minnie Minoso beat ‘em both.

  37. blake November 29th, 2010 at 10:41 pm

    SI_JonHeyman

    de la rosa’s deal is believed to be worth about $30 million over the 3 years with the #rockies. big day in colorado. 2 minutes ago via web

  38. LGY November 29th, 2010 at 10:42 pm

    The Rockies did a similar thing with Helton.

    He was under contract for 2001 and 2002, but before the 2001 season they inked him to a 9 year $141.5 deal that began in 2003.

    They are ensuring Tulo is a Rockie for life. He is this generation’s Todd Helton for Rockie fans.

  39. Patrick November 29th, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    I said it weeks ago – Tulo is Colorados next franchise player. He will never be a Yankee. Smart move by the Rockies, Tulo is the best SS in the league as of right now.

  40. West Coast Yankee Fan November 29th, 2010 at 10:46 pm

    A week ago or so, I observed here that Pettitte taking his time to decide might be problematic – as the limited free agent class disappears. Not that any aside from Lee were any great shakes, but, a trade for better arms will cost the Yankees a lot.

  41. GreenBeret7 November 29th, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    Sorry, but, De La Rosa is no 410 mil a year pitcher and for 4 years with his injury history? Not a chance.

  42. blake November 29th, 2010 at 10:48 pm

    “They are ensuring Tulo is a Rockie for life. He is this generation’s Todd Helton for Rockie fans.”

    That’s fine and good for them…however unless Helton bounces back next year then they aren’t getting much out of those final 4 years of his deal. I wish Tulo the best, I just think the Rockies are gambling a bit more than they have to at this point in time.

  43. GreenBeret7 November 29th, 2010 at 10:48 pm

    ***$10 mil a year***

  44. LGY November 29th, 2010 at 10:49 pm

    de la Rosa is barely a 6 inning pitcher in the NL West.

    Not AL East material especially at that price. Maybe a 1 year deal would have made him some sort of back up plan option to Andy.

  45. GreenBeret7 November 29th, 2010 at 10:52 pm

    There is nothing “problematic” with Pettitte taking his time. he takes his time every year and NYYs know it and plan for it. Nothing but a false rumor and people are pissing their pants.

  46. LGY November 29th, 2010 at 10:52 pm

    blake,

    Yeah I definitely agree it is a gamble. I was just saying the Rockies have a precedent for doing this because of Helton.

    I assume they believe Tulo walks if he hits FA and they want to make him the face of the franchise. Also if the reports are true the AAV on those final 6 years don’t look too bad for a player of his caliber if he holds up.

  47. Jerzz November 29th, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    Nice to see some of these small market teams spending money

  48. blake November 29th, 2010 at 10:56 pm

    The Rockies signed Troy Tulowitzki to a six-year extension that will keep him in Denver through 2020 and pay him $115-120MM. The shortstop will be approaching his 36th birthday by the time the extension expires.

    Tulowitzki is midway through the six-year, $31MM extension he signed before the 2008 season. He’ll earn $38.75MM through 2014 on that deal, plus $115-120MM for the 2015-2020 seasons.

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com

    LGY,

    it’ll be around 20 million per in those final 6 seasons. Problem is that most of those will be after his 30th birthday….that’s ok for the Yanks because they can absorb this risk of that if it doesn’t work out…..don’t know if we can say the same about the Rockies.

  49. SJ44 November 29th, 2010 at 10:57 pm

    Andy isn’t going to Texas.

    Stop hyperventilating at every false rumor.

    Why not wait until something actually happens before crying about it?

    It’s going to be funny a month from now when Jeter, Rivera, Pettitte, and Lee are all signed to look back on all these panicked posts.

  50. Betsy November 29th, 2010 at 11:13 pm

    I’m surprised people actually think Andy would go to Texas. This is not 2003 – and Andy returned anyway to where he really feels his home is, NY (not Texas). The Yankees are not going to screw around with him if he decides he wants to come back…………

  51. Betsy November 29th, 2010 at 11:14 pm

    Let’s hold off on Lee……….well at least, I will. I don’t assume anything where he’s concerned.

  52. GreenBeret7 November 29th, 2010 at 11:18 pm

    SJ, I’m concerned about the 21 Dec 2012 Mayan calendar rumors. What’s going to happen then? Will NYYs still sign FAs and for how much? Jon Heyman says that Teixeira will demand a trade to Baltimore and Cano wants to go, too. This will wreck the team all because Jeter and Pettitte left.

  53. bobshantz November 29th, 2010 at 11:30 pm

    People remember McDougald for the Score hit, but he was a fine player. Casey used him everywhere. Sad to see those 50′s teams die off.

  54. Vineyard Yankee November 30th, 2010 at 12:13 am

    Drivenbyjeter2
    November 29th, 2010 at 10:36 pm

    You’re joking with the Greinke proposal again right ?

  55. Patrick November 30th, 2010 at 12:18 am

    It’s going to be funny a month from now when Jeter, Rivera, Pettitte, and Lee are all signed to look back on all these panicked posts.

    Indeed :)

  56. DaSaint007 November 30th, 2010 at 12:19 am

    OK GB, so De La Rosa won’t be a Yankee. I had him as my plan B in case Pettitte retired, but certainly not as a backup to signing Lee. Seems like he matched Ted Lilly’s contract terms, which seemed to set the standard this year for middle talent.

  57. DaSaint007 November 30th, 2010 at 12:25 am

    According to MLBTR.com, there are 13 shortstops still on the FA market. All of those 13 are 30 or over, 11 are 33 or older, and our very own is the 3rd or 4th oldest.

  58. GreenBeret7 November 30th, 2010 at 12:26 am

    DaSaint007 November 30th, 2010 at 12:19 am
    OK GB, so De La Rosa won’t be a Yankee. I had him as my plan B in case Pettitte retired, but certainly not as a backup to signing Lee. Seems like he matched Ted Lilly’s contract terms, which seemed to set the standard this year for middle talent.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    yeah, Simon. That’s about what I set Pettitte’s contract offer at…between $10.5 and $12.5 Mil for the one year. Pettitte on a normal year is better than them except in strikeout numbers, but, he has a knack for winning games based on the scoreboard and the bigger the game, the better he generallt pitches.

  59. DaSaint007 November 30th, 2010 at 12:32 am

    GreenBeret7 November 30th, 2010 at 12:26 am
    DaSaint007 November 30th, 2010 at 12:19 am
    OK GB, so De La Rosa won’t be a Yankee. I had him as my plan B in case Pettitte retired, but certainly not as a backup to signing Lee. Seems like he matched Ted Lilly’s contract terms, which seemed to set the standard this year for middle talent.

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    yeah, Simon. That’s about what I set Pettitte’s contract offer at…between $10.5 and $12.5 Mil for the one year. Pettitte on a normal year is better than them except in strikeout numbers, but, he has a knack for winning games based on the scoreboard and the bigger the game, the better he generallt pitches.
    ———————–
    Agreed. Despite the hype with Lee, I don’t think there is a better Big Game Pitcher than Pettitte.

  60. kd November 30th, 2010 at 12:34 am

    at the risk of sounding pedantic, is it possible that jeter and the yankees have a contract worked out and they are dragging this out to get on sportscenter? maybe this is a nice tactic to get some free publicity.

    non-baseball folks are talking about jeter in bars and restaurants across america, it’s all free publicity.

  61. GreenBeret7 November 30th, 2010 at 12:47 am

    Not exactly the type of free publicity that either side is looking to cultivate, is it?

  62. GreenBeret7 November 30th, 2010 at 12:50 am

    Simon, it’ll be a real pity that that specific talent will possibly get overlooked because of the team that he pitched 14 years for. Almost like a penalty.

  63. Rich in NJ November 30th, 2010 at 1:21 am

    Pedantic?

  64. RobertGKramer@AOL.Com November 30th, 2010 at 1:55 am

    Jesh! What happened to staying “ON TOPIC”?

  65. West Coast Yankee Fan November 30th, 2010 at 2:39 am

    Topic schmopic! lol

  66. West Coast Yankee Fan November 30th, 2010 at 2:42 am

    This is the 24 hour Jeter Channel.

  67. Vineyard Yankee November 30th, 2010 at 3:05 am

    Jeter has left the country to tour Europe for two months with Minka. Flying Virgin Air to London and then on to France. Close said he will ‘text’ him when the Giants bring firm numbers to the table.

  68. yanks61 November 30th, 2010 at 3:17 am

    Gil McDougald – a great Yankee -

    This is spooky. Only yesterday afternoon I wondered if Gil was still alive and thought, if he is, he must be in his early 80′s. And this morning, first thing I hear about is Gil’s death.

    After Mick,Yogi and Whitey, he was my favorite player from the 50′s Dynasty. I have to imagine (without looking it up) that after those three great stars, no other player played on as many pennant and WS winning teams. Could flat out play – 2B, SS and 3rd. And he could play all 3 of those positions well. “McDougald led all American League infielders in double plays at three different positions – at third base (1952), at second base (1955) and shortstop (1957). He was the double play leader at shortstop despite sharing time at the position with rookie Tony Kubek.”

    GB, as you’ve often pointed out, we need more players like that who have that kind of versatility.

    I remember well his completely unorthodox batting stance when he came up as a rookie and his WS Slam. I believe he slumped badly in his sophomore year and Casey got on him about changing his stance (one of a kind – that’s for sure. I guess only “Stan the Man” Musial really succeeded with a stance so far out of the norm.) Does anyone (GB?) remember a catcher by the name of Stan Lopata? As Wikipedia points out – ‘Lopata started to assume a new, very low batting stance. Dizzy Dean remarked that, ‘He looks like a man hittin’ from an easy chair.’”

    Anyway, Gil was a class act. I must have seen him play dozens of times at the old YS and I feel a real sense of loss today. Goodbye, Nbr. 12. A great Yankee and a real gentleman.

  69. West Coast Yankee Fan November 30th, 2010 at 3:22 am

    Very nice yanks61. Thanks for writing that.

  70. Vineyard Yankee November 30th, 2010 at 3:34 am

    Good job ’61′. Another local San Francisco boy lost to father time and illness. Next time I am in ‘The City’ I will go to ‘Lefty O’Douls’ to hoist a few in his honor. They have lots of local old items of Giants and Yankee stuff there on the walls from local Bay Area guys who have made it to the big leagues.

  71. pat November 30th, 2010 at 6:16 am

    Nolan Ryan and Andy Pettitte have talked baseball within the past six weeks, but the phone call had nothing to do with the left-hander playing for the Texas Rangers in 2011.

    A report in the New York Daily News said that Ryan reached out to Pettitte about playing for the Rangers. Ryan said that isn’t at all accurate.

    Reached late Monday night, Ryan said Pettitte contacted him in late October after the Rangers eliminated Pettitte’s New York Yankees in the American League Championship Series. Pettitte, who is a partner in the Ryan-Sanders Baseball operation that owns minor-league teams in Round Rock and Corpus Christi, was calling to wish Ryan luck in the World Series.

    As the conversation continued, next season did come up.

    “I asked him if he thought he was going to play in 2011 or retire,” Ryan said. “He said if he played it would be with the Yankees because he wanted to retire with the Yankees. It wasn’t like I was asking him if he wanted to come play for us.”

    We have just witnessed the complete life cycle of a hot stove rumor — from birth to the mid-life hype to death — in less than 10 hours. This really is the most wonderful time of the year.

    http://www.bbtia.com/the-clubh.....um=twitter

  72. upstate kate November 30th, 2010 at 7:30 am

    thanks Pat, glad I missed out on that rumor!

  73. Mike Ri November 30th, 2010 at 7:35 am

    Per Mlbtraderumors.com

    Rockies and De La Rosa reach agreement.

    10:38pm: The Rockies will pay De La Rosa $32-33MM over three years, according to Rosenthal (on Twitter). Renck says the Rockies and De La Rosa have an agreement in principle, though there is still some question about whether the lefty prefers two or three years.

  74. MorningPerson November 30th, 2010 at 7:42 am

    pat -

    You’re on the job early this morning!

    My husband was reading the Pettitte report (the erroneous one) in the paper this morning and the article pointed out that Arllington is 250 miles away from where Pettitte lives in Texas. Not exactly like playing in NY and living in Alpine, NJ, is it? But just as he was reading that, I was able to update him, thanks to you. :)

    upstate kate -

    I ended up ordering a Christmas tree online from Frontgate. :?

  75. upstate kate November 30th, 2010 at 7:55 am

    MP
    Were you able to find one w/ colored lights? My little tree in the living room has colored lights, but the big tree is all white…not really my choice, but the price was right.

  76. MorningPerson November 30th, 2010 at 8:02 am

    upstate kate -

    No. The one I chose didn’t have a colored light option. I didn’t like the other trees as much and my first choice was already sold out. I guess we’ll learn to live with it. I can use the colored lights on the tree we use in the basement, or I can use them on the garland that goes down the stairs into the family room.

    I always thought the colored lights made the tree less formal and more fun, you know? The ornaments we use on the main tree are a mishmash so hopefully it will still look fun. The themed trees you see in the stores always look amazing, but our tree kind of evolved over the years to look a certain way. (I have a formal-looking tree in the foyer – strictly for decoration.)

  77. yanks61 November 30th, 2010 at 8:02 am

    WCYF & Vineyard Yankee, thanks. I wish you guys could have seen him play. Gil was an All Star at SS, 2B and 3B in different years. Incredibly valuable to have such a talented player capable of playing those three positions.

    Along with Mick’s marvelous catch off Hodges in Game 5 of the 56 WS, it was Gil’s terrific play on Robinson’s bullet off Carey’s glove that saved Larson’s perfect game. As Casey used to say, “you can look it up!”

  78. Betsy November 30th, 2010 at 8:12 am

    So there goes another option off the table in De La Rosa. The Yankees really need to sign Lee and have Andy return……..the alternatives are not pretty.

  79. upstate kate November 30th, 2010 at 8:14 am

    MP
    My little tree is my theme tree, the big one has a wide variety of ornaments from homemade to traditional to Star Wars/Disney/dogs/sports etc. Even when I am home during the day, I leave the lights off, the ornaments show up better.

  80. SJ44 November 30th, 2010 at 8:16 am

    DeLaRosa was never an option.

    The Yankees had no interest in him.

    He’s not a 10+ million dollar pitcher in the AL.

  81. blake November 30th, 2010 at 8:20 am

    I agree….I don’t think they would have ever gone after de la rosa. Its Lee or trade most likely.

  82. Mike Ri November 30th, 2010 at 8:20 am

    I agree Betsy-

    And no offense to Jeter. .. But Lee is the bigger priority !!

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    It’s amazing the difference between the two leagues. An AL pitcher can dominate in the NL, but you almost never want an NL pitcher pitching in the AL because invariably they turn to mush………and this despite all the articles last year saying how the NL was now the better league.

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    They have even talked money.

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    If he can get three guys that can help him, no question you deal him.

    My take? His shoulder scares me.

    You have a kid with that kind of talent, you build around him.

    Looking to deal him makes me thinks either his shoulder is problematic, or there is something deeper there.

  93. blake November 30th, 2010 at 8:38 am

    SJ,

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    Blake that cost would depend of the attitude or physical issues that may be concerning Upton, but, isssues or no issues, if ‘Zona asks for 5 players top players, salute them in the only way you can and walk away. One other thing, I wouldn’t include four pitchers in any deal.

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