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All of the alternatives

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 02, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Jeter Fake Baseball CardsThe Yankees might be moving toward a resolution with Derek Jeter, but there’s no deal in place just yet. And because this is Jeter we’re talking about, curiosity is off the charts.

It’s unlikely at best, but what would Jeter look like in a Pirates jersey or an Athletics jersey?

The Beckett Blog has the answers.

The blog’s all about baseball cards, and in a post called Totally Fake Baseball Cards, the blog takes a look at what 2011 Jeter cards might look like if he were to sign with any and every team in baseball.

Of course, when the Associated Press grabbed a screenshot of the blog and published it as a photo, the picture they chose was of Jeter in a Red Sox uniform.

Associated Press photo

 
 

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100 Responses to “All of the alternatives”

  1. Mike Ri December 2nd, 2010 at 12:24 pm

    LOL look at Jeter !!

  2. coney1 December 2nd, 2010 at 12:25 pm

    Yea, check Jeter out, didn’t realize it was Halloween

  3. Erin December 2nd, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    That is one disgusting picture. LOL

  4. Erin December 2nd, 2010 at 12:27 pm

    I should amend my comment-Jeter himself is as gorgeous as ever. His uniform, however, is disgusting. ;)

  5. upstate kate December 2nd, 2010 at 12:27 pm

    we were visiting family in MA for Thanksgiving and they showed Jeet in a sox uni on one of the sports channels…for the record, none of the MA family want Jeter, except one nephew who has always been a fan.
    OTOH, one sister still wears her Manny shirt, while the other says Manny is dead to her.

  6. NYY626 - Andy in 2011 December 2nd, 2010 at 12:29 pm

    this picture has been all over the internet the past few weeks. It’s still scary. The one of him in the Mets uniform looks sooo terrible! I think they put his head onto wright’s body?

  7. SerfSurviving December 2nd, 2010 at 12:32 pm

    I think they put Jeter’s head on a 10 year olds body for the Phillies picture.

  8. blake December 2nd, 2010 at 12:35 pm

    RAB proposes a possible back up option should Lee stay in Texas……..Chris Carpenter. I mentioned him the other day and he would make some sense (depending on the price and if the Cards would trade him) in the unlikely event that Lee isn’t in the rotation.

  9. SAS December 2nd, 2010 at 12:35 pm

    DaSaint,

    Thanks so much.

    You have wonderful things in store for you as a new Daddy. Being a parent is just about the best thing that can happen to a person. We have 2 sons and a grandson so although I am not a Daddy, I know just how terrific little boys are.

  10. clownthrowindown December 2nd, 2010 at 12:36 pm

    So Derek Jeter, Captain Intangibles, deserves an outrageous premium because he’s such a “winner”…but Manny – who has won more rings than Jeter in the last ten years – should play for league minimum because he somehow is a “cancer”?

    And how convenient to bring up drugs when talking about Manny even though the subject never comes up when it has to do with innocent, golly gosh, choir boy Andy, or Arod or the host of other Yankees who juiced since the late ’90s.

    Very selective and pinstriped reasoning by certain people here.

  11. SAS December 2nd, 2010 at 12:38 pm

    Blake,

    Should Lee not sigh with the Yankees, why would the Cards trade Carpenter?

  12. Chip December 2nd, 2010 at 12:38 pm

    Funny stuff.

  13. SAS December 2nd, 2010 at 12:39 pm

    Clown,

    is a good name for you

  14. Chip December 2nd, 2010 at 12:39 pm

    Blake -

    I can’t see the Cards trading their number 2 starter – they have hopes of competing for the division this year and unless they’re adding a top of the rotation starter in return I don’t see them making that kind of move.

  15. Erin December 2nd, 2010 at 12:40 pm

    SerfSurviving December 2nd, 2010 at 12:32 pm
    I think they put Jeter?s head on a 10 year olds body for the Phillies picture.

    ************************
    I was thinking the same thing. LOL

  16. blake December 2nd, 2010 at 12:41 pm

    SAS,

    Hope everything goes well with your son. I don’t know that they would, but he is nearing the end of his deal and the Cards may would opt to clear some payroll for Pujols and plug some holes at the same time.

  17. Patrick from CT December 2nd, 2010 at 12:41 pm

    That’s a bad joke!
    Jeter will be back.
    It’s just got to be closer to 3 years 45mil than 5 years 115mil.
    I keep saying 3 X 18.9 with a 4th year option and buyout that would have him make 63 guarantied. Then it can be said he got no pay cut and a 4th year if he is still productive.
    Get it done!

  18. blake December 2nd, 2010 at 12:43 pm

    Chip,

    Maybe not but the Cards do have several needs and a looming Pujols deal. I don’t think it would be likely but not impossible either.

  19. Mell December 2nd, 2010 at 12:44 pm

    “why would the Cards trade Carpenter?”

    Might better position them to be able to lock up Pujols in free agency. Of course, they could also do that by simply turning down his Carpenter’s 2012 option.

  20. West Coast Yankee Fan December 2nd, 2010 at 12:45 pm

    Some are saying (Feinsand) that the Yankees still have not moved off their 3-$45 and have asked Close for a counter. And on and on it goes. Positive spin is they are talking – and that’s good. Negative is, the size of the financial gap.

  21. just_another_handle December 2nd, 2010 at 12:46 pm

    Re: Jeter contract

    1 year for 32M. Make it a farewell tour. He agrees he won’t be back.

    Upsides for Jeter:

    He makes more money in one year than Afraud will ever make in one year. Makes him the highest paid Yankee ever. It acknowledges his contribution beyond the field.

    Upsides for the Yankees: They don’t have to deal with the “you didn’t treat him properly for all he has meant to the Yankees” crowd. They can move on with their development with Nunez as a backup until 12′. It gives them time to consider other options as well.

  22. blake December 2nd, 2010 at 12:47 pm

    Mell,

    That’s true….but if they decide beforehand they they aren’t picking up his option then they may want to get some value for him instead of letting him.walk….the Cards always wlseem to cobble together decent starting pitching.

  23. hardwired7 December 2nd, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    they might as well photoshop Derek wearing a turban on horseback, that has about the same odds of happening as seeing him in a Red Sox uni.

  24. Barry December 2nd, 2010 at 12:58 pm

    Someone asked where Eria From NY, Doreen and others are…? Good question. They are missed.

  25. SAS December 2nd, 2010 at 1:02 pm

    It is true that the Cards always seem to have good pitching, but with all their pitching Pujois and Holliday, they didn’t even win the wild card. That’s something of a mystery to me.

  26. SAS December 2nd, 2010 at 1:04 pm

    Barry,

    I answered that question last night. They were stalked. It is hard to return after that.

  27. pat December 2nd, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    “Someone asked where Eria From NY, Doreen and others are?? Good question. They are missed.”

    They are taking varying degrees of a blog-cation. Some are lurking (Hi!) and some have checked in on occasion.

  28. Tom in N.J. December 2nd, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    Yuck. As a former resident of the western NY region, I don’t miss this at all.

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/12/.....tml?hpt=T1

  29. Bronx Jeers December 2nd, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    I saw this Jeter baseball card thing yesterday.

    Yeah in some of the uniforms he looks ridiculous with short arms, torso etc.

    Scary that he looks pretty good in the Red Sox uni. :shock:

  30. Chip December 2nd, 2010 at 1:19 pm

    blake December 2nd, 2010 at 12:43 pm
    Chip,

    Maybe not but the Cards do have several needs and a looming Pujols deal. I don’t think it would be likely but not impossible either.

    ————————–

    I understand the thought about clearing payroll to open up cash for Pujols – but that raises the question – if Pujols sees the Cards emptying the cupboard to keep him is he going to want to sign on long term for a team with no other pieces?

  31. Chip December 2nd, 2010 at 1:23 pm

    In other words – Does Pujols want to be Alex Rodriguez on the Texas Rangers?

  32. blake December 2nd, 2010 at 1:25 pm

    Chip,

    On the contrary, they could get pieces that would help over the life of Pujols new contract….where Carpenter may be gone after next season.

  33. Chip December 2nd, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    blake December 2nd, 2010 at 1:25 pm
    Chip,

    On the contrary, they could get pieces that would help over the life of Pujols new contract….where Carpenter may be gone after next season.

    ————————-

    I get your logic but veteran players don’t want “pieces” they want guys who can help them win now.

    If you put Albert in a room and told him “We’re trading this guy and getting back players who are going to help us next year or the year after” he’s going to say “well who is gonna help us this year?”

  34. Bronx Jeers December 2nd, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    And “m” is missing as well. Queen of late-night Lohud.

  35. bruceb December 2nd, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    Did I hear right that the Yanks have re-signed Sergio Mitre for 2011? Surely not? He sucks big time. Next, we’ll be bringing back Chad “Flash” Gaudin and Chan-Ho “Out Of The” Park.

  36. Mell December 2nd, 2010 at 1:30 pm

    Blake:

    There could be the rub. What exactly does a 36 year old, $15M per season pitcher with significant injury history bring you in trade?

  37. Chip December 2nd, 2010 at 1:31 pm

    Blake -

    Just in furtherance of the point – Pujols doesn’t want to get paid and then see Carpenter go away. He wants to get paid and then have them pay to keep Carpenter as well. He wants to get paid and have them go out next year and sign Jonathan Papelbon to be the closer.

    Players don’t care about team budgets – it isn’t their job. They want to get their money and they want to be on winning teams (most of them anyway). The way they look at it, if a guy is wealthy enough to pay me, he’s wealthy enough to pay him too.

  38. Yanksgal07 December 2nd, 2010 at 1:31 pm

    How can one picture look soooooooooooooo wrong ….

    All I want for Christmas is signings of DJ, Mo, Andy and Lee. I would really appreciate it if they were gift wrapped under MY tree too … :)

    Go Yankees 2011

  39. blake December 2nd, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    Chip,
    that’s true but they weren’t good enough last year with Carpenter. That team has some holes and they may need to payroll room to even retain. Pujols depending on what his.demands are.

  40. Chip December 2nd, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    bruceb December 2nd, 2010 at 1:29 pm
    Did I hear right that the Yanks have re-signed Sergio Mitre for 2011? Surely not? He sucks big time. Next, we’ll be bringing back Chad “Flash” Gaudin and Chan-Ho “Out Of The” Park.

    ————————

    Yes, he should send a thank you note to Alfredo Aceves for needing surgery that’s going to keep him out until probably the All-Star break.

  41. West Coast Yankee Fan December 2nd, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    Might be a $20+ million dollar advantage to Carl Crawford if Lee were to sign with Texas (perish the thought).

  42. pat December 2nd, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    Question for the gentlemen……

    Do you know what Uggs are and if you do, do you/ would you wear them?

  43. GreenBeret7 December 2nd, 2010 at 1:40 pm

    A sneak peek of Brian Cashman wearing Pedroia’s uniform.

    http://nymag.com/daily/sports/.....guest.html

  44. start_wearing_pink December 2nd, 2010 at 1:40 pm

    I know what Uggs are and I would wear them

  45. blake December 2nd, 2010 at 1:40 pm

    Chip, Mell,

    Fair enough…again I don’t think its likely to happen but there arent many plan B’s out there that make a lot of sense either….which is why they’ll sign Lee.

  46. West Coast Yankee Fan December 2nd, 2010 at 1:41 pm

    Of course, real men wear Uggs. I have three pair, high boots in two colors and a slip in slipper which I love. Nothing like warm fleece on a cold day.

  47. blake December 2nd, 2010 at 1:41 pm

    Pat,

    Yes I do, and know I wouldn’t :)

  48. GreenBeret7 December 2nd, 2010 at 1:41 pm

    Last year’s rappelling of the Landmark building.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKfcyK-WpOI

  49. Erin December 2nd, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    pat-if you’re buying Uggs, you could always buy me a pair. ;)

  50. Erin December 2nd, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    GreenBeret7 December 2nd, 2010 at 1:40 pm
    A sneak peek of Brian Cashman wearing Pedroia?s uniform.

    http://nymag.com/daily/sports/…..guest.html

    *****************************
    That’s hilarious. :lol:

    I can’t wait to see pictures of him in his elf costume.

  51. Chip December 2nd, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    blake December 2nd, 2010 at 1:32 pm
    Chip,
    that’s true but they weren’t good enough last year with Carpenter. That team has some holes and they may need to payroll room to even retain. Pujols depending on what his.demands are.

    ————————–

    That’s why I see them doing the oposite of what you’re suggesting. I think the Cards are going to be major spenders towards the second part of this hot stove season.

    I think they’ll add a guy like Damon to improve the top of their order, maybe upgrade their pen with Brian Fuentes or Kerry Wood; maybe get in on Adrian Beltre to play 3b or try to upgrade at that position with a mega deal such as:

    Colby Rasmus, David Freese to the Mets for David Wright and Angel Pagan

  52. Chip December 2nd, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    blake December 2nd, 2010 at 1:40 pm
    Chip, Mell,

    Fair enough…again I don’t think its likely to happen but there arent many plan B’s out there that make a lot of sense either….which is why they’ll sign Lee
    ———————————-

    Blake -

    The only Plan B I can think of at this point is signing Crawford and dealing for Carmona. My alternate Plan B (Brian Anderson) was taken off the board when the A’s failed to sign the Japanese pitcher they won the posting rights for.

  53. blake December 2nd, 2010 at 1:46 pm

    Chip,

    Im not suggesting them trade him….just giving reasons why they might with regards to the Yankee plan B disccusion. Everyone seems to agree that Plan B is to sign Crawford and make a trade for a pitcher…..I don’t expect them to need a plan B but in the event they do that un named pitcher would have to be named at some point.

  54. Patrick December 2nd, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    Colby Rasmus, David Freese to the Mets for David Wright and Angel Pagan

    That’s a really bad deal for the Mets

  55. GreenBeret7 December 2nd, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    Why would anybody want a pitcher with 1 and a half years a good pitching out of 5 seasons?

    You want to trade for a hope and a prayer that you get him on the right year?

  56. Chip December 2nd, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    Actually now that I’ve put it out there – that’s not such a bad deal really for either side.

    The Mets would need to get another prospect back (or swap out Pagan and use Beltran instead) but it could work for both teams.

    Give St. Louis a lineup of:

    Damon – CF
    Theriot – SS
    Pujols – 1b
    Beltran – RF
    Holliday – LF
    Wright – 3b
    Molina – C
    Shumacher – 2b

  57. LGY December 2nd, 2010 at 1:48 pm

    This is for Chip, because he did not do his HW I gave him to check out payroll obligations on Cot’s.

    “Note that in every case, I’ve estimated on the low side — I’m guessing that Pettitte and Rivera will not receive raises, and that Jeter will receive a substantial pay cut. But even though I’ve guessed on the low side, I’m showing a Yankees payroll of $196 million for these 21 players.

    If the Yankees sign Cliff Lee at a figure matching CC’s salary (and we can guess that Lee would cost the Yankees more than this), the Yankees’ 2011 payroll would balloon to $220 million, for 22 players. To get to 25 players, the Yankees’ payroll could reach $225 million.”

    http://itsaboutthemoney.net/ar.....99-budget/

    A conservative estimate of the Yankees payroll in 2011 with Crawford would put them north of $240 million.

  58. LGY December 2nd, 2010 at 1:49 pm

    Pat,

    I know what Uggs are. Someone bought me a pair of ugg slippers a few wears back. I am not ashamed to say I wore those suckers all the time. Really comfortable.

  59. SJ44 December 2nd, 2010 at 1:51 pm

    Johnny Damon hasn’t been able to play CF for four years.

    He’s more a DH these days.

    He’s not going to the Cardinals.

  60. blake December 2nd, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    Chipper….do you really have JD in CF?…come on now.

  61. Mell December 2nd, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    Chip:

    I think you meant to say BRETT Anderson, who would costs a couple arms and a leg.

    Don’t really get your affinity for Carmona.

  62. Warning Track Power December 2nd, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    HAHAHA!
    The photos of Jeter wearing the other uniforms is classic. I can’t help but laugh harder with each photo.
    I wonder what pedro, “who’s your daddy” would say if Jeter ended up playing for the sox???

  63. pat December 2nd, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    Thanks guys.

    Erin

    I worked for a California company years ago and went out there often. Everyone wore Uggs with everything and I bought a pair before they made there way to the east coast. I took a ton of abuse from friends and family for wearing them but they were so comfy I didn’t care.

    My daughters love them and my sons would rather walk barefoot in 20 degree weather than put on a pair.

    I saw a PR release that Tom Brady was signed to an endorsement deal to be the face (feet?) of Mens Uggs. Just wondered if my clan was representative of the general population of guys.

  64. blake December 2nd, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    Carmona is dangerously close to becoming this years david Dejesus :)

  65. kd December 2nd, 2010 at 1:56 pm

    does damon even play baseball next year? there aren’t that many dh jobs out there.

  66. Chip December 2nd, 2010 at 1:58 pm

    LGY -

    I appreciate your comments on the payroll but I’m sticking to my guns on the Crawford thing.

    I still believe that Cashman will; after concluding his primary business see an available Crawford and say to himself, “Geez, how often does a player like this become available, I have to at least kick the tires on it right?”

    And once he gets authorization from Hal to do that – as long as Crawford comes in sorta kinda where Cashman assumes he would – getting the money will be easy. And maybe he turns around and trades Swisher to free up some of the money, or he goes very young on the bench and in the pen…but I think he would find a way to make it work.

    As I said – Brian has done some things to surprise us the last couple of years (some good, some bad) so I’m not writing Crawford off until he signs with another team.

  67. hardwired7 December 2nd, 2010 at 2:00 pm

    a sign that you might be thinking too much about baseball: you see the word “uggs”, and immediately your mind asks, “Did you mean Dan Uggla?”.

  68. LGY December 2nd, 2010 at 2:02 pm

    The big budget buster in 2012?

    Alex Rodriguez is 47 HR away from 660.

    When Alex hits #660 he gets a fat $6 million bonus. Looks like 2012 is going to be the year he gets that $6 million.

    He likely is going to pull in $35 million in 2012.

  69. SJ44 December 2nd, 2010 at 2:02 pm

    The Yankees aren’t signing Carl Crawford.

  70. pat December 2nd, 2010 at 2:02 pm

    Joelsherman1 On vacation, but heard this minor #Yankees news http://bit.ly/dGHzPW that they signed reliever Buddy Carlyle

  71. Chip December 2nd, 2010 at 2:03 pm

    Mell December 2nd, 2010 at 1:54 pm
    Chip:

    I think you meant to say BRETT Anderson, who would costs a couple arms and a leg.

    Don’t really get your affinity for Carmona.

    ——————————-

    Oh I don’t like Carmona at all. And yes, I did mean to say Brett Anderson since the Yankees already signed Brian Anderson.

    Here’s my psuedo-logic on Carmona:

    He’s young enough that he still has upside
    Too expensive for the team he’s on
    Yankees and Indians have successfully done business in the past

    If you look around baseball – there aren’t many guys left who fit the Yankee target mold like that. The Yankees would almost always target a salary dump from a team (Javy Vazquez) in trades because it didn’t cost them top level prospects to get one. But there are fewer and fewer of those players around. Guys like Greinke, Josh Johnson and King Felix are a different animal based on their talent – but I’m talking about the second and third level talents that a GM might be willing to move to free up payroll – those guys just aren’t around anymore. Fausto Carmona may be the last one.

  72. Chip December 2nd, 2010 at 2:04 pm

    SJ44 December 2nd, 2010 at 2:02 pm
    The Yankees aren’t signing Carl Crawford.

    ————————

    I know, but I refuse to let you people burst my bubble in this the season of joy!!!

  73. LGY December 2nd, 2010 at 2:05 pm

    Matt Holliday, a better player than Crawford, was available last offseason.

    Crawford isn’t some super special player that never comes along or the Yankees are in need of.

  74. LGY December 2nd, 2010 at 2:07 pm

    If they didn’t break the budget for Holliday when they had less payroll obligations and an unproven Gardner in LF last year, why would they for Crawford?

  75. Patrick December 2nd, 2010 at 2:07 pm

    The Yankees aren’t signing Carl Crawford.

    —-

    I would have pegged him as the type of player the Angels would get but it looks like Boston is really hot on the trail of Crawford. I really wish he would leave the AL east. Although I don’t want the Yankees to sign him, I hate facing the guy, he’s so good.

  76. Chip December 2nd, 2010 at 2:08 pm

    LGY December 2nd, 2010 at 2:05 pm
    Matt Holliday, a better player than Crawford, was available last offseason.

    Crawford isn’t some super special player that never comes along or the Yankees are in need of.

    ——————————–

    A) I would argue the premise that Holliday is better than Crawford. He’s a better power hitter than Crawford, but not a better all around player IMHO

    B) Cashman spent his Matt Holliday money on Tex the year before.

  77. Patrick December 2nd, 2010 at 2:09 pm

    If they didn’t break the budget for Holliday when they had less payroll obligations and an unproven Gardner in LF last year, why would they for Crawford?

    Yeah and the need for a LF was much greater last year too. Nobody knew what Gardner would do as a starter. Now that he is looking pretty good there is a lot less of a need for a star LF. Holliday fits the Yankee model better than Crawford anyways..

  78. Chip December 2nd, 2010 at 2:09 pm

    Patrick December 2nd, 2010 at 2:07 pm
    The Yankees aren’t signing Carl Crawford.

    —-

    I would have pegged him as the type of player the Angels would get but it looks like Boston is really hot on the trail of Crawford. I really wish he would leave the AL east. Although I don’t want the Yankees to sign him, I hate facing the guy, he’s so good.

    ———————

    I still think he ultimately winds up with the Angels. The fit is just so much better for him there than with Boston.

  79. mick December 2nd, 2010 at 2:10 pm

    Is it money that drives Hal, over winning?
    They overpay at every position except LF and will not pay for a Holliday or Crawford.

  80. Chip December 2nd, 2010 at 2:11 pm

    Patrick December 2nd, 2010 at 2:09 pm
    If they didn’t break the budget for Holliday when they had less payroll obligations and an unproven Gardner in LF last year, why would they for Crawford?

    Yeah and the need for a LF was much greater last year too. Nobody knew what Gardner would do as a starter. Now that he is looking pretty good there is a lot less of a need for a star LF. Holliday fits the Yankee model better than Crawford anyways..

    ——————–

    I understand that Brett Gardner had a good season last year – but Brett Gardner isn’t and will never be Carl Crawford. You’re talking about a major upgrade in LF.

    Here’s the other little thing I would throw out there – As Jeter continues to get older; it might be that he’s not a top of the order bat anymore – Crawford would be. On the other hand Gardner in the leadoff or two spot was very tentative on the basepaths and it seemed like he pressed….as I say…just a thought

  81. LGY December 2nd, 2010 at 2:12 pm

    “A) I would argue the premise that Holliday is better than Crawford. He’s a better power hitter than Crawford, but not a better all around player IMHO”

    —————————-

    Holliday hit for a higher average, more OBP, and more power last year than Crawford.

    Crawford’s career high OPS is only higher than Matt Holliday’s rookie season.

    Holliday is a better hitter in every facet of hitting. Crawford is better defensively, but Holliday is still very good defensively himself. And Crawford steals more bases.

    Crawford is better defensively and at SB.

  82. Bronx Jeers December 2nd, 2010 at 2:12 pm

    Lots of interesting big bats out there.

    Probably a bad a year to have 13 mil tied up at DH/possible back up catcher.

    Maybe next season.

  83. A-ROD A-ROD December 2nd, 2010 at 2:13 pm

    What are our thoughts about PC RIchards? My thoughts are I will never ever ever go there no matter how good their prices/quality. that ad is the most annoying thing ever.

  84. Mell December 2nd, 2010 at 2:13 pm

    “Crawford isn’t some super special player that never comes along or the Yankees are in need of.”

    Agreed. Since 2001, I think the only free agent everyday players who were types you’d consider blowing over your budget for were Beltran and Teixeira. Crawford is a tier, perhaps two, beneath that.

  85. pat December 2nd, 2010 at 2:14 pm

    The Yankees have and will continue to overpay for difference makers.

    And by difference makers I don’t mean just an upgrade at a position. I mean guys who can control or take over a game by themselves.

  86. LGY December 2nd, 2010 at 2:14 pm

    Holliday’s career BA is 21 points higher than Crawford and his career OPS is a whopping 150 points higher.

  87. blake December 2nd, 2010 at 2:14 pm

    LGY,

    Agreed. I also think Holliday is a better player and the need was.much greater last season in an offseason where they weren’t spending a lot of money in other areas and Gardner was less proven.

  88. Patrick December 2nd, 2010 at 2:14 pm

    I understand that Brett Gardner had a good season last year – but Brett Gardner isn’t and will never be Carl Crawford. You’re talking about a major upgrade in LF.

    Actually you aren’t talking about a major upgrade in LF. That was my point. Last year you can’t expect Gardner to be a good LF so Holliday was a much bigger upgrade. This year you know Gardner is pretty good so there’s a lot less room to upgrade. Combine that with the fact that Crawford is a lesser overall player than Holliday and it just doesn’t make sense. If the Yankees were going to blow away the budget to upgrade LF they would have done it last year.

  89. pat December 2nd, 2010 at 2:15 pm

    BryanHoch Syracuse accepts invitation to play in December 30 New Era Pinstripe Bowl at Yankee Stadium.

  90. mick December 2nd, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    The Yankees overpay more than any other team which might be why Hal is holding the line with Gardner like a trophy.

  91. Chip December 2nd, 2010 at 2:18 pm

    LGY December 2nd, 2010 at 2:12 pm
    “A) I would argue the premise that Holliday is better than Crawford. He’s a better power hitter than Crawford, but not a better all around player IMHO”

    —————————-

    Holliday hit for a higher average, more OBP, and more power last year than Crawford.

    Crawford’s career high OPS is only higher than Matt Holliday’s rookie season.

    Holliday is a better hitter in every facet of hitting. Crawford is better defensively, but Holliday is still very good defensively himself. And Crawford steals more bases.

    Crawford is better defensively and at SB.

    ——————–

    Holliday has the added bonus of having played all of his home games for six and a half years in very friendly hitter parks – check out what happened to him when he played half a year in Oakland.

    Again though it’s moot….it isn’t a question of “well you didn’t sign Holliday so why would you sign Crawford”

    When Cashman signed Tex I remember the general thinking at the time was that Hal and Hank signed off on it because Cashman convinced them there weren’t any big time players worth signing the next year. Essentially Cashman used the money he would have had last year for Holliday on signing Tex.

  92. Patrick December 2nd, 2010 at 2:18 pm

    The crazy thing is… people don’t realize how GOOD Holliday is on defense. He is significantly above average in the field. Now Crawford is the best LF in the game over the last several years (although our boy GGBG was about as good in 2010). But it’s not like Holliday is an all-bat no-glove guy. He’s really well-rounded and a better player than Carl Crawford

  93. mick December 2nd, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    I am worried about Gardner being injury prone. He also has a very large head.

  94. Chip December 2nd, 2010 at 2:21 pm

    Mell December 2nd, 2010 at 2:13 pm
    “Crawford isn’t some super special player that never comes along or the Yankees are in need of.”

    Agreed. Since 2001, I think the only free agent everyday players who were types you’d consider blowing over your budget for were Beltran and Teixeira. Crawford is a tier, perhaps two, beneath that.

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    I think you guys are very wrong on Crawford.

    Look, I know at the end of the day, he ain’t coming here.

    But I’m telling you now, he’s adding power to his game while maintaining speed…he’s going to be the most complete player this game has seen since A-Rod and Junior were in their primes.

  95. GreenBeret7 December 2nd, 2010 at 2:21 pm

    I’m more of the belief that Cashman and Hal Steinbrenner were more interested in saving budget space last year to make sure that Lee was signed. There was no real pressing need to a left field thunder stick last year and none this year. They want Lee and Pettitte…those are the targets, along with Jeter and Rivera.

  96. Erin December 2nd, 2010 at 2:22 pm

    New Post: Syracuse accepts invitation to New Era Pinstripe Bowl

    :arrow:

  97. 108 stitches December 2nd, 2010 at 2:22 pm

    Damon or Manny Ramirez could be signed on the cheap by the Rays but then again both are represented by Scott Boras who does nothing on the cheap.

  98. blake December 2nd, 2010 at 2:24 pm

    Considering the contracts, would the Yankees have been better off passing on Teixera and then signing Holliday the next year? Holliday is a little cheaper and it would have kept a landing spot open for Arod or Montero defensively or to pursue Pujols or Gonazalez in the future…..of course had they not signed Tex he would have went to Boston and they may not have the 2009 WS….

  99. ericns1 December 2nd, 2010 at 3:51 pm

    Disgusting picture – put him back in pinstripes!

  100. Jim December 2nd, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    Chad you owe me a new computer.


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