Notes from Day 2: The non-Jeter edition
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Dec 07, 2010 
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It’s been a while since Joe Girardi last spoke to Andy Pettitte
“He’s on my list to call,” Girardi said. “I always give him some time away before I start badgering him.”
Girardi said he does not know which way Pettitte is leaning, but he went into this offseason less optimistic than usual about Pettitte coming back.
“I was not as convinced that he was going to come back and play this year as I had been in previous years,” Girardi said. “But I’ve always said it’s hard to ask a player the last day of the season, a week after the season, a couple of weeks. You have to give them a couple of months to get away from it and see how they’re feeling inside of their hearts, and then you discuss it.
“… It could have been the frustration of the injuries (that made him hesitant) and he may feel great. I would imagine he feels great now. And he might have a different thought process.”
• Brian Cashman suggested he has things going on in and out of Orlando: “I’ve been engaging a lot of people. I may jump out of these meetings and go somewhere and come back, just like Vegas a couple of years ago. I’ve already met with one player, and I intend to meet with another player, and I might actually jump out of this location to meet with another player. I’ve been very busy, and we’re ready to rock and roll, but regardless if something happens or if nothing happens, we have a good team already. We’re just trying to add to it.”
• Although Cashman has indicated he’s not necessarily looking for a utility man, Girardi said it’s too early to know who might play that role for the Yankees next season. “You’ve got to wait and see what we add, the possibilities that we have going into spring training,” Girardi said. “(Eduardo Nunez) came up and got his feet wet with us last year. Pena filled in pretty well for us. I know when you look at Ramiro Pena’s numbers you don’t necessarily look at the average and say he had a great year, but he had some big RBIs for us. He really did. You wait to see what you have, and then you start talking about what you can do.”
• As you might have guessed, Girardi referred to Nunez as “Nuny.”
• Cashman is talking to several free agents and teams. How are those talks going? “Like most of them, slow,” Cashman said.
• Is the Yankees budget flexible? “I’m always willing to entertain whatever anybody comes into my office and wants to talk about,” Hal Steinbrenner said. “So is Hank. Hopefully that answers your question. But not always, no. Not always. It depends on how I feel, if I have my coffee yet today.”
• Dustin Moseley is reportedly close to a Major League deal with the Padres.
• Via text message, Dave Eiland said he had no comment on reports that he’s about to accept a job with the Rays.
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Nuny? Oh brother, lol
Good pitching beats great hitting. Every time.
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Say that to CC and Hughes and Pettitte and Cliff Lee.
Its a team effort.
Yankees were 7 out of 13 in AVG, not 8th, but they were really in a statistical tie with 4 teams. 3 teams hit .268, yankees hit .267.
• As you might have guessed, Girardi referred to Nunez as “Nuny.”
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Is this anything like a “nooner”?
Cashman called Nunez Nuny when he was on with Mike F. this afternoon.
Hal
Please have your coffee when Cash comes to you with Braunecker’s offer.
lol lol
jerkface, what’s your point?
That good pitching does not beat great hitting?
You really believe that is true?
CC was the better pitcher in the playoff games he started and did not get beat. Hughes, Pettitte and Lee got beat on nights when the opposing pitcher was better eventhough their own lineup was on paper better than their opponent’s.
As long as he didn’t call him “Ninny” it’s cool.
somebody needs to take Hal Steinbrenner a lot of coffee and Hank a lot of Marlboros to increase that budget.
Nuner sounds better.
“Nuner sounds better.”
So does “trade bait” as part of a package for an OF, starter, or set-up man.
Hal’s wallet is like the “Monolith” in 2010.
It’s Gigantic. It’s everywhere. and it fills the team with Stars.
“# MTU December 7th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
What kind of records ?
For prayer ?:)”
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Cashman played shortstop (I believe..)
I miss the Big Unit and Wang.
Bret-
I have owned every type of RV known to Man.
Best of luck with your cabover.
Nuny is not a good look. Not at all. Eddie or Eddy is much better than Nuny.
But when he played. Did he believe ?
Cashman sure can make no news exciting. His recalling the 2008 meetings might be revealing. He sure has been dropping hints of surprise players in his sights.
And I think the Yankees should send a probe down to Arkansas to look for Lee.
You know, if we fans actually knew what was being discussed, and not just the rumors, tweets, and bits we are showered with, it would probably blow our minds.
Kind of like that famous DiMaggio for Williams deal that never happened.
Joe-
I KNOW what’s being discussed.
Benjamin Franklin.
MTU -
Sent you an E-mail. Talk to you tomorrow.
AJ is in the woods as we speak looking for Cliff, wearing a white fluffy hat, and brown jacket.
“I miss the Big Unit and Wang.”
This can be interpreted in a couple of different ways.
MTU,
I think i found a used one that matches the color of my pickup for $600. Can probably get it down to $400 + a couple hundred for carpeting and installation.
PUMPED if I can turn my pickup into a camper.
Bret-
THINK of the possibilities.
Bret
PUMPED if I can turn my pickup into a camper.
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You can do that with a tarp and a sleeping bag alot cheaper.
AJ is in the woods as we speak looking for Cliff, wearing a white fluffy hat, and brown jacket.
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I hope he isn’t wearing that. From a certain angle he could look like a deer and get shot. I know he had an off year, but not enough to be put down for it.
Tar-
Where I come from I think they call that “double entendre”, or something like that.
Some silly French thing.
The point is you don’t need amazing pitching, you just need good enough pitching, preferably a lot of it.
As the Phillies proved, having 3 aces doesn’t mean squat.
MTU – Ah, yes. The favorite way for so many people to show their patriotism.
MTU,
Free camping???
The bottom line here is that in Yankee Land it appears Pettitte is going to retire. Going into the season with Sabathia, Hughes, Burnett, and two starters yet to be determined if Pettitte isn’t back leaves some serious question marks for the team’s rotation if they aren’t able to sign Lee.
I don’t envision and I certainly don’t think the Yankees plan to have Sergio Mitre and Ivan Nova filling in the large 4 and 5 starter gaps.
Cash needs to have an alternative plan hence “his large net” and in the case the Yanks don’t get Lee, better options than Mitre and Nova. Whether the day comes this off season or next, Pettitte even at age 38 or 39 will be a significant loss to this franchise.
Big AL
I know you don’t want to talk about Ace, But please pass along my best wishes as a Yankee fan. His stay (so far) was short but sweet. I hope he comes back to the team, but regardless I wish him the best anyway.
If Cashman is not seen in the morning around the hotel, he’s not to be reported to the cops as missing.
He could be somewhere outside of Orlando meeting with an agent and his client, just like in Vegas a couple of years ago.
He’ll sneak out of his hotel suite like a thief in the night.
Bret-
Please try to be a little bit more imaginative. And romantic.
Sheesh !
Joe-
Absolutely. And the Yankees couldn’t be more patriotic !
Maine,
$600 is still a lot cheaper than one of those teardrop camper trailers.
http://www.golittleguy.com/
Those things are $10,000 + you gotta find a place to park them, hitch, unhitch, registration.
Camper shell on the pickup is the same principle and saves me time…don’t have to setup the tent, take it down- all my time goes into wood gathering, bonfire, cooking, eating, drinking, and ROMANCE
Interestingly, last weekend (12/5) was the end of deer hunting season in Arkansas.
Jeter:
Very glad this over. Jeter always has been class. I tried explaining negotiations many times, but I guess I don’t articulate all that well.
Lee:
I wouldn’t believe everything you hear. A lot of nonsense. Is there a 7 year deal out there? I do believe so, Yes. However, I don’t believe it is a “winning” team. I still like our chances.
Pettitte:
As I have said for over a month, it’s not looking positive that Andy will be returning. I’ll be surprised if he does.
Crawford:
You better believe that if Lee goes elsewhere, we will be making a hard-run at Crawford.
Werth:
He doesn’t set the market value, he wsa paid a premium for going to Washington, and Washington clearly new they had to overpay in order to attract him.
Cashman:
I wouldn’t be surprised if he pulls a rabbit out of a hat for his next trick !
Later guys. If I say my prayers tonite just right maybe Cliff Lee will be ours in the Morning.
While pitching is important in the WS and playoffs, you still need to score runs. Having a stacked lineup is tough on the opposing pitching. 2009 the Yankees had a tougher lineup and there was no real let up for the opposing pitchers. 2010 was good, but not circular.
To win it all you need balance, offense, defense and pitching. You also need to have the players having a bit of luck to be playing hot at the right time. That includes your pitching.
As we saw with Felix Hernandez, you can pitch your brains out, but if your team doesn’t score runs you don’t get wins.
Lost,
Cashman should make a hard-run at Crawford no matter what!!!!
“I wouldn’t believe everything you hear. A lot of nonsense. Is there a 7 year deal out there? ”
7/100 to the Orioles?
What kind of rabbit?
Bret
Whatever happened to sleeping under the stars?
I guess we are getting to soft.
Funny you should say that because the Phillies didn’t have 3 aces. They had one ace and a couple of good to slightly above average pitchers.
Pettitte will make his decision to return once we sign Cliff Lee. The excitement of possibly joining an all-star rotation and winning one more ring will be too much to turn away from.
Lost,
Cashman should make a hard-run at Crawford no matter what!!!!
HINT:
Yankees are deferring monies. I wouldn’t exactly say that we are not after Crawford even if we sign Lee.
Initially (months back) I posted that Crawford wasn’t eager to go to NY. Let me say, newly learned Crawford has great interest to come to NY. (please don’t interpret that as he has Tex like desire to be a Yankee). CCII wants the excitement of playing at a packed stadium on a winning team.
The rotation as it stands rihjy now is a lot better than the rotations that they opened with in 2004, 2005 and 2006. Post season every year.
Lost,
WOWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
He’s an exciting player and i hope we get him!!!
Is there any news on how Gardner’s wrist surgery turned out?
***right*** now is a lot
Lost,
Know anything about Upton, is that off the table at this point?
If Yankees sign Carl Crawford…
Gardner, Joba, Banuelos/Betances/Brackman (pick 1), Noesi/Nova (pick 1)
for: Zach Grienke
sound fair?
or:
Gardner, Joba, Romine, Banuelos/Betances/Brackman (pick 1)
Lost,
How serious are the Yankees about Russell Martin and since he wants a starting gig, do you think the Yankees will still be interested?
Is Cashman getting any action on Jesus Montero?
Lost:
any NYY interest in Grienke?
Why are Yankee fans so high on guys like Greinke and Upton?
All of the trades for these two involves the Yankees giving up too much for them.
My belief is that any one of the Brackman-Banuelos-Betances could turn out to be just as good as Greinke.
I don’t care if Greinke is supposedly proven. He’s just as likely to come here and disappoint.
I would hold onto our young pitching prospects and not trade them away.
Cash and Hal are usually very conservative in how they talk like “we already have the pieces to win” or “we like the way we are now but will always listen for ways to improve the club” but they seem a bit aggressive this year. Sounds like they may have some big things in the cue.
Lost-
Lottery #’s for tomorrow?
As you might have guessed, Girardi referred to Nunez as “Nuny.”
*facepalm*
I’d love to see Upton in NY, but not Greinke. NY is a hard enough place to play, and if Greinke has hesitations, this is not the place for him.
eh, Moose was a small town introvert who totally didn’t fit in with the Yankees but he did his job. Greinke might seem strange but he’s a world class talent.
SI_JonHeyman
nats and many others looking at greinke. but teams say price exorbitant for greinke. nats are not in on cliff lee.
12 minutes ago via web
TBrownYahoo
Of 3 main needs — Crawford, Beltre, Soriano — Angels source said team likely would spring for only one of them.
GordonEdes Multiple sources: Sox still in on Crawford. Epstein doesn’t go that far, but says “Anything’s possible.
SAS December 7th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
I’d love to see Upton in NY, but not Greinke. NY is a hard enough place to play,
***and if Greinke has hesitations, this is not the place for him.***
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That reminds me of a prayer that I heard about 42 years ago at a firebase around Christmas time. “Dear God. We need help. Please come yourself..do not send Jesus. This is no place for children.”
Lee needs to sh*t or get off the pot, as the saying goes….
Bret – isn’t it verboden to quote Jon Heyman here? lol
Tweet…..Red Sox in on everybody……..
nunez as nuny reminds me of the SNL skit – LOL
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/.....t_dealers/
GB,
How are you doing today. No snow here, but it is certainly cold enough to snow. I can’t wait to get back to AZ
Jon Heyman (yes him) just sent a rather amusing tweet:
“Fred McGriff, Johnny Damon, Frank Viola and Gary Sheffield were at the winter meetings. Great to see McGriff, Damon and Viola”.
I could easily see the Tigers as a team that offers Lee 7 years and Lee would make that team maybe the favorite to come out of the AL.
Crawford does nothing to solve the Yankees pitching problems and he’s not worth the $$$ he’s going to get.
I wish Cash would calm down. He’s certainly verbose about Lee – and he sounds desperate. I think the Yankees are desperate, but it looks bad for their GM to be sounding that way.
tampa, fla. — new york yankees general manager brian cashman is on the verge of making cliff lee a very lucrative offer. Cashman is just waiting for the green light from the player’s agent.
“i’m willing to do whatever he asks,” said cashman, who once again was scheduled to talk with agent darek braunecker on tuesday night, “but he has to tell me that i’m pretty first.”
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Personally,I prefer Nunie over Nuny…
If Braunecker was really smart, he’d charge each GM $ for each time they chatted with him,cash money up front….
Most of the time that I see Cashman interviewed it seems as if he barely has a pulse. I think he is very calm. It’s been my experience that it’s a plus letting a star, athlete, entertainer, etc., know you really want them. Cashman doesn’t strike me as desperate. Everyone knows what the Yankees situation is.
SAS December 7th, 2010 at 9:50 pm
GB,
How are you doing today. No snow here, but it is certainly cold enough to snow. I can’t wait to get back to AZ
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Evening, SAS. Doing well, here. Thank you for asking. Hope all is going well with you, son and family. just remind you and him that all gets better every day during recovery.
We had a cold spell here in Savannah, too. Down into the 60s.
DocTodd
Personally,I prefer Nunie over Nuny…
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No, no, no it’s Noonye
Cliff Lee back to the #Phillies?!? http://bit.ly/uJoV
“but he has to tell me that i’m pretty first.”
Cashman has a sense of humor.
The Angels jumped in the pursuit of Cliff Lee now. I bet that is the second team Heyman mentioned earlier. Heyman knows that because Boras has inside knowledge from the Angels.
This from ESPN Insider:
Stark: Pettitte could retire
A close friend of Andy Pettitte said Tuesday that if Pettitte had to make a decision today on whether to play in 2011, he would still lean toward retirement. But, the friend told ESPN.com’s Jayson Stark, “that can always change.”
The friend characterized Pettitte’s frame of mind as being not that much different than it has been in other recent years as December dawned. There are days when Pettitte’s family encourages him to keep playing, and others where they tell him how much they love having him at home in Texas.
So Pettitte is wrestling with a decision over whether to come back for a 17th big-league season, much as he always has, the friend said. It’s become such an annual rite of November-December life over the last few years that when Pettitte saw Lance Berkman recently, Berkman was jokingly calling the 38-year-old lefthander “Brett Favre.”
As for the Yankees, they haven’t pressured Pettitte in any way to make a decision. But they clearly would like to know his plans one way or the other. Pettitte earned $11.75 million this season, and if he isn’t coming back, it would both create greater urgency for the Yankees to sign Cliff Lee and provide more payroll flexibility that could motivate them to make a serious run at signing Lee and Carl Crawford.
New One—–>>>>>
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