Lunch with the skipper
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 08, 2010 
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A Winter Meetings tradition like none other: Lunch with the manager.
The Yankees beat writers are heading to lunch with Joe Girardi, who I’m sure will give us the full scoop on the Yankees No. 2 starter for next season, who’s going to hit in the lead-off spot, which reliever gets the first crack at the eighth inning and whether the team is going to sign an alternative to Jesus Montero behind the plate.
I’m going to make my way around the room, check in with every team’s manager, and try to land one of these seven-year offers I keep reading so much about.
Have a good lunch with Joe. It looks like he got his braces off?
When I wore braces my Uncle used to tell me, “Bret, don’t smile, you look like a buffet.”
I’m going to make my way around the room, check in with every team’s manager, and try to land one of these seven-year offers I keep reading so much about.
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Hahaha a jab at Jon Heyman perhaps?
Chad-
Ask Joe is he going to use his book less this coming season.
Lunch with the skipper
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Will Gilligan, Mary Ann and Ginger be there, too? They only have 3 hours, you know.
edit: “if he is “. sorry.
GB-
Jill St. John.
Lee’s agent Darek Braunecker told ESPN’s Richard Durrett that one club has been eliminated.
Where’s lunch this year? Portobello would be nice!
Mary Ann and Ginger….
Memories!
I always preferred Mary Ann.
Have a good lunch!!
“For Greinke I think you’re talking about Montero, Banuelos, Betances and another player.”
cb-
this is hard to explain because it’s just a subjective feeling or intuition, but about every ten-15 years a yankee youngster comes along that really gets me excited. montero is one of those guys.
i do not want to trade away montero .
there’s just something about him that says yankee star.
i’m really looking forward to jeter passing on the torch to him by the overlapping of their careers.
people think jorge will mentor him. as much as i like jorge, i think jeter will impact montero more.
i say keep montero at all costs.
GreenBeret7 December 8th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Lunch with the skipper
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Will Gilligan, Mary Ann and Ginger be there, too? They only have 3 hours, you know.
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Ledger_Yankees Also told that Lee’s camp is now considering offers after taking a slow pace through the meetings. Yanks gonna offer 6 years today.
CB:
thanks for the input (Re: Gardner). I get what you mean. You make vaild points. However KC does have to field a team in the meantime.
randy – don’t you feel like you’re kinda ignoring the prospects we’ve traded for other pieces? Lots of former Yankee pitchers playing in the NL right now and not doing half bad. The Yanks are going to keep drafting pitching and catching and developing those guys. They’re always the most needed pieces for other teams.
“Ledger_Yankees Also told that Lee’s camp is now considering offers after taking a slow pace through the meetings. Yanks gonna offer 6 years today”
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thanks, Erin.
how ‘big’ of them..
DaSaint007 December 8th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Mary Ann and Ginger….
Memories!
I always preferred Mary Ann.
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Yeah, she was the real hottie…but, Lovey had that certain something, too…..Community Property.
# mick December 8th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
But he’s not $20M a year better than Gardner.
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Is he 5m better than Swisher?
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Actually, Crawford is going to earn double what Swisher will for 2011.
Swisher will earn $9M next season and Crawford is probably going to get $20M+ per season.
So, no, Swisher is the better monetary value for the Yanks, and by a wide margin, if you ask me.
Swisher is a pretty good run producer himself. Don’t know if his average will be .280+ like last season, but he will get on base a lot and hit 30 dingers.
I think people really undervalue Swisher on this team.
Now that ya’ll have that stupid song in your heads, Enjoy.
http://www.televisiontunes.com.....sland.html
Patrick-
I was just joking with my last comment! I know what you were trying to say and I was just being facetious.
I don’t use emoticons, but if I did that post would have gotten a little smiley face a la Nick (or one of those mock angry faces if were referring to Nick!)
LOL @ GB!
KenDavidoff Matt Diaz had a good meeting with the #Yankees on Monday, but the playing time simply wasn’t there. #Pirates
I’m off to a meeting that I really don’t need to attend, but am being forced to anyway.
Hopefully I won’t miss any breaking Yankee news, but knowing my luck I will.
GB 7 you beat me to it…. give me Lovey’s CASH…. I can go shopping for Ginger and Mary Ann with that kind of scratch.
I’ve been on 3-hour boat rides. Never occurred to me to pack so much clothing!
I’m with Randy on Montero… unless King Felix is the prize.
shame spencer-
unless i’m missing something,i don’t think any of the guys traded away would be any better than a five on the yankees.
it’s good to be creating fifth starters because they do, as you say have value, but the yankees really need to come up with 2,3, or 4 at a better rate than one every five years.
“I always preferred Mary Ann.”
OK, next question: Betty or Veronica?
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/.....day-books/
CB,
I knew you were joking.
You are right about one thing though. This blog is way too serious for emoticons.
Actually, Crawford is going to earn double what Swisher will for 2011.
Swisher will earn $9M next season and Crawford is probably going to get $20M+ per season.
So, no, Swisher is the better monetary value for the Yanks, and by a wide margin, if you ask me.
Swisher is a pretty good run producer himself. Don’t know if his average will be .280+ like last season, but he will get on base a lot and hit 30 dingers.
I think people really undervalue Swisher on this team.
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I agree. Just look at Jayson Werth’s numbers versus Swisher’s. Is he better? Maybe just a little bit. Swisher has always had better power numbers, but his average has been up and down more. Is their value close? Not in the slightest. Swisher is major value in comparison to Werth.
Patrick
he has already been referred to as Monty
sorry for the lack of seriousness
upstate kate,
I did not know that! Thanks. I actually kind of like “Monty”
“this is hard to explain because it’s just a subjective feeling or intuition, but about every ten-15 years a yankee youngster comes along that really gets me excited. montero is one of those guys.
i do not want to trade away montero .”
randy-
I agree with you. He has the chance to be very, very special. No guarantees but it’s so rare to even get a prospect in the upper minors who you can say that about.
He just has this swing where it’s just a great combination of balance and violence. He gets the bat head through the zone so fast and so smoothly. And it stays in the zone for so long.
Some guys just have the ability to square up a round ball with a round bat. Those guys are rare. I think Montero is one of them.
There’s a real argument to be made that Montero is the best home grown hitting prospect the yankees have had in the organization since Mantle.
At similar stages in their careers, Montero is better than Jeter, Cano, Nick Johnson (who was great in the minors), and Mattingly were.
Maybe that’s an overstatement – GB7 I’m sure can correct me on that.
But it’s been a very, very long time since the yankees have produced a kid who has a legitimate chance to be the best hitter in baseball.
There are very few situations where I would be willing to trade him.
randy – that isn’t what i meant. Last off season we used Ian Kennedy, not even a 5th starter on our team, to get Curtis Granderson. These guys have value even if they don’t project to be aces or #2s or #3s or whatever arbitrary number in the rotation people want them to be.
You know what’s scary.
It is believed that Sanchez may have an even higher cieling than Montero.
OMG.
Murphydog,
In my youth it was Betty. Now, I think of the Lodge money. I would probably have better luck with Ms. Grundy.
Ken_Rosenthal
Russell Martin, coming off hip fracture, resumed full running and bb activities a week ago, and is even crouching. #RedSox #Yankees #MLB
12 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®
I’m OK with trading Montero for the right pitcher.
Russell Martin is a good bridge to Gary Sanchez.
I like Austin Romine as well.
Yanks have a very good outfield of Gardner, Granderson, and Swisher. Not much got by them last season, particularly in left center, with the speed and range of both Gardner and Granderson. And Swisher’s no slouch as he reads the ball well. In fact, I’d say he was better defensively last season than the prior one.
Crawford (disclaimer: one of my favorite palyers) would be nice to have in LF, but he’s not absolutely necessary. Gardner is younger and much more affordable, and seems to be steadily improving. He could be Crawford in 2 or 3 years.
Pitching, pitching, pitching.
Id trade Montero for Felix Hernandez and maybe Josh Johnson……not Zack Greinke.
Bahama Breeze is the place to go for lunch. No doubt. Love that joint when I am in Orlando every year.
SJ, You mentioned in a few previous posts that you would be ok with Greinke becoming a Yankee. Any mental concerns there, with his previous bouts of anxiety? Big stage make me kind’ve nervous. Thoughts??
“However KC does have to field a team in the meantime.”
vinny-
They do. And supposedly they are on the verge of signing Jeff Francouer to accomplish that task. Welcome to the world of Dayton Moore.
I might be completely wrong. I’m just estimating what it would take. But from what I’ve read teams are taken aback by what Moore is asking for. He really does want the get back the top 3-4 young players from the other organization in the deal.
He’s asked for both Drabek and Synder + other players for example from reports.
And just putting myself in Moore place – that’s the kind of deal I’d be asking for as well. Otherwise I just keep him.
That’s the beauty of having signed to an affordable extension.
I agree blake !
As long as there are questions about Jesus Montero behind the plate, the Yankees should continue to be open to trading him for a top rotation starter. If he ends up a DH, he loses a great deal of value. Arod is our DH…probably soon.
Dayton Moore is confusing to me. He makes ridiculous trades, stupid signings, he’s a joke in the baseball world. But somehow he’s assembled the best farm system in the league. I guess we can’t keep making Dayton Moore jokes?
Jesus Montero’s bat is so special he’s still an amazing prospect even if his longterm future is at DH.
ed_price
With Pena and Konerko signed, 1B market accelerating. Could see Adam LaRoche (Wash?), Troy Glaus and maybe Derrek Lee (SD?) go soon.
2 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
Yanks need to use Crawford to pressure Lee and to drive up the price of Crawford for another team.
That’s it.
Long live Gardy!!
” Last off season we used Ian Kennedy, not even a 5th starter on our team, to get Curtis Granderson. These guys have value even if they don’t project to be aces or #2s or #3s or whatever arbitrary number in the rotation people want them to be.”
shame spencer-
i agree that these guys have value to trade and fill holes, but i just would like the minor league system to crank it up considerably so that cashman is not forced to have to buy the best player on the free agent market every two years.
If they trade for Greinke, he will become the Jeff Weaver of our generation.
Patrick,
I’d like to know how KC has the best farm system.
I’m not sold on that, but I’m no expert.
I think I’d take Tampa or Texas before KC.
Long live Gardy!!
– HAHA. . bd !!
Baseball fans consistently over rate the production of DH’s. The average DH is decidedly mediocre.
Montero would be an enormous asset at DH.
IF GGBG is healthy he is an excellent ballplayer.
Perhaps the Yankees think that the problems with his thumb and wrist signal trouble ahead.
BD,
KC has a better farm system than both.
Especially with position players.
They may be a couple of years away but, they have a very talented system.
I also notice that many people seem to be sleeping on the Halos.
I fully expect them to make a big splash at some point.
Not expecting them to be this quiet all off season.
Bd, Others can speak to that more intelligently than myself but for what it’s worth, most experts in the media acknowledge KC as having the best farm system at the moment.
The term ‘value’ may also be one of the most mis-used words in baseball.
SJ44 and Patrick,
Like I said, I’m no expert
Still, I find it hard to believe their position guys project as well as Texas’ pitching prospects.
But regardless, they clearly have a quality system.
Patrick-
I think it just speaks to how different it is to evaluate talent at the major league and minor league levels.
Different people, skill sets, and philosophies involved.
Moore seems to place an inordinate value on players he “knows” at the major league level and keeps bringing in retreads.
He also doesn’t put any value on men getting on base but this has been discussed ad nauseum.
They have outstanding talent in the minors. Though I do still find it remarkable that they passed on Matt Wieters and Buster Posey in successive years to take high school corner infielders. They were willing to spend big money in the draft and passed on two catchers. We’ll see how Hosmer and Moustakas pan out and whether Will Meyers can stay behind the plate.
Man the Rays are going to be a shell of there selves from these past few years. If you thought attendance was down before this year at the Trop. Look Out!
MTU December 8th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
I also notice that many people seem to be sleeping on the Halos.
I fully expect them to make a big splash at some point.
Not expecting them to be this quiet all off season.
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Although according to ESPN Insider, Angels are talking as if Crawford is a done deal for them.
Looking at Yankee farm system. They have a ton of good prospects. Some could be really good but many could be solid major leaguers. Many are really close too making an impact.
randy l. December 8th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
i agree that these guys have value to trade and fill holes, but i just would like the minor league system to crank it up considerably so that cashman is not forced to have to buy the best player on the free agent market every two years.
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Same thing I have been spouting. Couldn’t agree more. Yanks need to once and for all break this cycle. They should be about two years away from doing so with Killer B’s and maybe DePaula chomping at the bit, as long as Cash doesn’t screw it up.
Yankee Fem-
Exactly. And more. I don’t think they enjoyed being on the outside looking in last season.
Also, it’s just a hunch, but I think they have money to spend.
The Tigers have been surprisingly active as well.
Oh man, Twitter has been awful quiet the last hour. Wonder what is going on.
Let me give my 2 cents on the free agent signings we need to help our team and the other in which I rank them:
1)Cliff Lee-for reasons many of us have already discussed
2)Kerry Wood-if the Yankees can bring him back as the 8th inning reliever, our bullpen will be so strong going in 2011. i would welcome Wood back with ease
3)Crawford-because our outfield is already pretty good, i listed him as 3rd. if the Yankees can sign both Lee and Wood, i would be fine with losing Crawford to another team.
Konerko resigned with the ChiSox, 3 years, $37.5M.
Really busy, so sorry if this is short.
Couple of things:
Gardner:
Concerns unmentioned publicly. Some health, but maybe he would excel more out of ny, I’ll just leave it at that.
Holliday:
Truth be told, he didn’t wanna be in the limelight but also it wasn’t unanimous at the time.
Crawford:
Extreme interest across the board. Some feel he is an absolute perfect fit.
Pett:
Not expected to be back, but nothing final yet.
Cashman:
As I said last night, Waving the magic wand and still attempting to pull a rabbit out of his elf hat.
UnKnown,
I think the Rays will probably still compete.
They have David Price with another year under his belt, he’s only going to get better. The same goes for Reid Brignac and Wade Davis. Then they have Jeremy Hellickson assuming a spot on the rotation (I assume) and Desmond Jennings will definitely temper the loss of Crawford
Lost….is the rabbit have the intials JU?
Lost – interesting insight.
When you say the Holliday thing wasn’t unanimous, do you mean the front office wasn’t completely sold on him?
Lost where is this info coming from?
Crawford:
Extreme interest across the board. Some feel he is an absolute perfect fit.
I concur elite D 20-25 HR and 50+ SB go get ‘im.
GGBG is already excelling. In NY.
MTU December 8th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Yankee Fem-
Exactly. And more. I don’t think they enjoyed being on the outside looking in last season.
Also, it’s just a hunch, but I think they have money to spend.
The Tigers have been surprisingly active as well.
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Halos were on Soriano as well, but I haven’t heard anything lately. Beltre as backup to Crawford. Also one of the potential Lee “mystery” teams? They will spend. Tigers too. This Hot Stove year is one of the recent craziest I can recall. I wake up wondering what hot rumor is circulating next. Good way to kill time until Opening Day in spite of people’s complaints about all the hot air.
The only think you can be sure off when it comes to highly touted prospects, is that no one really knows how well they will perform in the show. As much as it makes sense to develop and retain cost-controlled, young, home grown players – often their greatest value are as trade chips that get you proven big leaguers.
Blake-
I think you and I may be the only ones who favor JU over cc.
Crawford will make more in 2011 than the current entire Yankee outfield?
MTU,
Well we do share a brain right.
Fem-
I’m not complaining. Just enjoying the ride.
Crawford will make more in 2011 than the current entire Yankee outfield?
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Yeah most likely
Blake-
This is true. How come my half forgot ?
Patrick December 8th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
UnKnown,
I think the Rays will probably still compete.
They have David Price with another year under his belt, he’s only going to get better. The same goes for Reid Brignac and Wade Davis. Then they have Jeremy Hellickson assuming a spot on the rotation (I assume) and Desmond Jennings will definitely temper the loss of Crawford
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Their starting pitching has to carry them. They are losing quite a bit of pop without Pena’s HR’s and Crawford has more pop than Jennings. They need to add a bat or two beyond Dan Johnson and Matt Joyce methinks. Sounds like Sean Rodriguez will also get a shot at regular 2B. But too many K’s. They also have no bullpen to speak of, but maybe the Moores and McGees of the world can fill in at some point. Still they need to go get a DH and a closer. I kind of would like them to see them sign Manny.
Blake-
I think you and I may be the only ones who favor JU over cc.
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I’d take Upton over Crawford.
Unless the question is do I take Upton and his costs (low money but lots of prospects including possibly Montero and Hughes) vs Crawford (1 draft pick but tons of money and probably the loss of Granderson or Gardner). In that case it’s a tough choice and all depends on what it would take to get Upton
MTU December 8th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Fem-
I’m not complaining. Just enjoying the ride.
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Me too. Kind of like riding in a hot air balloon right now.
MTU – If I had to venture a guess – I would guess that the rabbit Cash is working on is Upton. He’s younger than cc, has the tools, and is less expensive. Plus, Cash has the minor league assets to pull it off, and a good relationship with Kevin Towers, whose knowledge of the Yankee system would facilitate a deal.
What’s not to like?
yankeefeminista
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Good summary, you’re right they have a LOT of holes. But the core of that team is very strong and especially their starting pitching. I definitely agree that they AT LEAST need another good bat and reliever.
I favor JU over cc intrade as long as Montero and Hughes are left out of it.
IMO everyone else should be made available for discussion.
I’ve enjoyed watching the kids grow up as much as anybody, bit of the top 10 Yankee kid pitchers, at least 4 of them will be gone from the system by the end of 2011 in trades, etc.
My top 10 choices would be:
1. Betances
2. Banuelos
3. Brackman
4. Marshall
5. Ramirez
6. Phelps
7. Noesi
8. Warren
9. Stoneburner
10. Nova
Next 5
11. DJ Mitchell
12. Bleich
13. Barreda
14. Brian Mitchell
15. Garcia (if he’s still in the system, he moves back into the top 5)
Buzz is that (at least on WFAN and 1050) that the Nats ARE still in the Lee sweepstakes and will offer 7 years. If Lee at 33 doesn’t mind waiting a few more years to win, then I’m fine with him signing elsewhere. All the Yanks can do is make a very good and fair offer.
Joe-
I don’t think that’s a magic act. I believe that should be obvious to all who chose to see.
Nice summary GB7, that list makes me giddy haha…
By Garcia are you referring to Christian Garcia?
I would think Damon would be a good fit for the Rays DH
I don’t think AZ would take Hughes. He’s already heading into big salary country. That’s not what they want. And, in trading Montero, Cash would open up a big hole at C, a very important spot. No comparison between what Montero and Russell Martin could bring to the table.
Having said that, Kevin Towers has said he wants young pitching. Cash has that. And, I don’t think Brackman would be the one – he’s already on a ML contract, and his agent is Scott Boras.
JMO.
Joe-
I think the Yankees have more than enough to get JU.
The big question in my mind is wether Towers really wants to move him.
Another thing to consider is that Towers KNOWS our system from the inside out.
Who better to get good value from than the Yankees ?
Patrick December 8th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Lost where is this info coming from?
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Out of his….uhhh….hat. This is the same crap we heard 3 years ago from the legendary Bobcat. Notice the talk without saying anything? Sounds like both of them went to the Derek Jeter School Of Public Speaking.
MTU
I wish Chad could stop people from making these stupid trade proposals for someone who is not on the market right now.
Yes, Christian Garcia. Not sure if he became a FA or not.
SJ, I couldn’t agree more with your post about Lee earlier………I don’t want Cash to rush Lee if he’s not ready, but if the Yankees $$ and the chance to win isn’t good enough, so be it.
That said, I don’t want Greinke at all. I think he’s overrated and I don’t think he could handle NY. Maybe he could, but he’s not worth the prospects it would take (and make no mistake, the Royals would try and squeeze everything they can from the Yankees. They hate the Yankees and their GM is not Jed HOyer). I like Crawford, but I can’t give him a big deal.
Carl-
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Lost who do you know, I have minor insight maybe we have friends in common o.o
Betsy I had a really snarky post all ready to respond to your latest comment but I’ll refrain. I’ll just say in all seriousness that you’ve posted a LOT about how you are fine if Cliff Lee signs a 7 year deal elsewhere.
Couple things I think Lee tasting the W.S. the last couple years is going to keep him out of DC. He wants to continue to win.
Second, I think the Rays would have a shot again this year, maybe even a very good look at the playoffs if they were not in the AL Beast err East. Put them in the Central and they compete all the way in 2011
Betsy,
I just heard on WFAN that the Yanks offer for Lee will be 6 years/$140-150.
Also heard that the Red Sox are interested in trading for Beltran and met with him last night.
# MTU December 8th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
Carl-
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These stupid Justin Upton trade proposals.
Driving me crazy.
Carl-
Then skip ‘em.
murphydog December 8th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
“I always preferred Mary Ann.”
OK, next question: Betty or Veronica?
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Betty.
Mary Ann – I hated Ginger
Veronica……..I hated Betty, that stupid goody two shoes.
Sox are likely just kicking the tires on Beltran as a plan C.
The Sox will almost definitely be signing or likely trading for a RH OF (yes, Carlos is a SH)
Crawford is a pretty crappy plan B. Then what? Then you have to go get a pitcher. Who’s available? I don’t think the Yankees are going to risk trading their farm for Greinke – he’s a risk in NY.
Don’t know if the Yankees dropping out of the Lee market adversely affects him that much.
In fact, if anything, some of these teams on the periphery of the Lee talks (Nats, Os, Tigers, Angels) might feel it is more realistic to sign Lee now that the Yanks are out off the bidding and the price may not get as high (and subsequently, by other teams entering the bidding, it will probably still reach 6 yr territory). The Angels have a ton of $$$ to throw around… they were planning on throwing it at Crawford. They could just turn around and give it to Lee.
Yanks have far more to lose from pulling out of the sweepstakes than Lee does. Lee will still get a lot of $$ and might even be happier because he will prob. end up back in Texas and get his 6 yrs. The Yanks, OTOH, will then proceed to pay a speed guy $150 million and trade multiple big prospects for a guy in Greinke with questionable NY makeup who isn’t anywhere near the proven commodity that Lee is.
They are better off biting their tongue and staying in this Lee race as long as possible, rather than pull out and go for a far inferior alternative. They may not like being used, but when they think about how Crawford will look halfway through that deal and think about the downside of Greinke… they will realize it is better to stand pat in the Lee talks. They’ve come this far.
Christian Garcia was released, but we were supposedly going to try to sign him back at some point.
Fran, Mets want pitching for Beltran. I can’t imagine where they have pitching stashed away. They have very little that could even match Gaudin, Mitre or Moseley near the top right now. Doubront would move into the #5 spot with Wakefield to back them up.
I expect the Sox to wait a bit and try to find bargains once the market settles.
They got their big fish, and will be bargain hunters from here on out (except perhaps with C, perhaps their biggest need.)
Not a terrible strategy, if there isn’t anyone specific they really like.
I would not be least bit surprised if Cash is talking to other potential pitching targets.
Can’t have all your eggs in the cc and Lee baskets.
GB7, I like your list. Did you see Brett Marshall pitch? He is the one of your top five that I haven’t seen, although I recall since rehab he was trying to command 4 seamer better by throwing less hard and had added a two seamer. If you have seen him pitch, what is your take on his stuff?
Patrick, post it- I don’t care one way or the other. What’s your problem with my opinion? I don’t want to give him 7 years and if he goes to a team like the Nats for 1 extra year, a team not that close to winning, then I don’t want him. If you want to give him 7 and whatever he wants, that’s fine………..
Personally, I’d be leary of Carlos Beltran in the OF. The guy still needs a brace for his knee.
Or as they say, “walk softly but cast a net.”
Fran, I don’t think that will get it done, but we’ll see.
edit: “big net”. sorry.
DaSaint007:
On John Lennon’s anniversary let’s consider this old chestnut when deciding Betty or Veronica: “Money can’t buy me love.”
Betty it is.
And FWIW, (I have no way of knowing this for sure), but I always thought it was possible that Veronica suffered from hirsutism. I mean, all that blue-black hair! Dios mio.
Love conquers all. But not that.
# Betsy December 8th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Crawford is a pretty crappy plan B. Then what? Then you have to go get a pitcher. Who’s available? I don’t think the Yankees are going to risk trading their farm for Greinke – he’s a risk in NY.
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I’ll bite Betsy – what’s your plan?
Betsy,
I’m not going to post a mean snarky message just for the sake of it, it’s just being mean for no reason. I communicated my point without the nastiness.
I don’t necessarily disagree but it’s getting repetitive, every single post from you is about how you’re fine if Lee goes some place else. You aren’t even taking into account that the rumors about Lee having 7 year deals on the table are totally false… It’s frustrating
“Joe from Long Island December 8th, 2010 at 1:56 pm: Personally, I’d be leary of Carlos Beltran in the OF. The guy still needs a brace for his knee.”
Beltran happens to be from the same town in Puerto Rico as my mother-in-law, Manate. By all accounts he’s a very nice guy. Just not sure about his stomach. And you know how welcoming and forgiving they can be in Boston.
upstate kate December 8th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
I would think Damon would be a good fit for the Rays DH
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Maybe as an extra OF. However, I think Rays need a DH with more pop than Damon considering their lack of it, and need someone who can protect Longoria.
I said this yesterday but I do believe if there actually 7 yr offers out there for Lee there were going to total out in the mid 140′s and that the Yanks were probably a little short of that total with 6 yrs.
I think all these rumors this wekk were just to get the Yanks to sweeten their 6 yr offer and it seems like they are. Obviously this is all conjecture but I think this offer might get it done.
If not, so be it.
BobKlap Bob Klapisch
#Yankees offer to Lee will likely be six years for $140 million. Just a starting point although they say (for now) no chance of 7 yrs.
GB,
The Mets want a pitching prospect from Boston. It would also be a salary dump for the Mets.On the radio here they are talking about the Mets paying half of Beltran’s salary.
BTW, a little poor grammar on my part above. To be clear: my mother-in-law’s not named “Manate,” her home town is “Manate.” (Thank god she doesn’t use a computer!)
hi, murph. It’s nice to hear that Beltran’s a good guy, not too many of them around, especially in pro sports. Yeah, he could get eaten alive in Beantown if things didn’t work out.
yankeefeminista December 8th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
GB7, I like your list. Did you see Brett Marshall pitch? He is the one of your top five that I haven’t seen, although I recall since rehab he was trying to command 4 seamer better by throwing less hard and had added a two seamer. If you have seen him pitch, what is your take on his stuff?
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Yes, I’ve seen Marshall before and after surgery. NYYs knew before hand that Betances, Marshall and Brackman would need surgery, but, these guys have STUFF. Marshall’s stuff is just a tick below Betances. And he won’t be 21 until March of 2011. Brian Mitchell is another good one to watch over the next couple of years.
There is a reason why they are called “Plan B”…. because it is nowhere near as attractive as Plan A and/or riskier.
If CC had spurned them in 2008… they would have turned to Plan B which probably would have been either throwing big money at Burnett AND Lowe or signing Tex/Manny and trading Matsui/Damon (which was reported at the time) or something like that. The Plan B is never going to be optimal.
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I think JUp will demand too much of a haul. My untouchable list would be ideally all three Killer B’s (although I would expect Towers to want one of Banuelos/Betances), Montero, DePaula, Sanchez. If they want another package of specs, sure. But they wouldn’t likely make the deal. CC on a daily basis is a *game-changer,* but the cost and length of contract bother me. However, I am not against.
murphydog, your mother in law is neither a manate or from manate, she is from Manati, Puerto Rico…
Murp, at first glance, I thought you said your mother in law is Manatee
Fran the original December 8th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
GB,
The Mets want a pitching prospect from Boston. It would also be a salary dump for the Mets.On the radio here they are talking about the Mets paying half of Beltran’s salary
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Thanks, for the info, Fran. The last I heard, they wanted Matsuzaka.
Murp, at first glance, I thought you said your mother in law is Manatee
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She damn well better be. Don’t spend too much time with her or she might become a mermaid