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Notes and such on a snowy Christmas Eve

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 24, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

It’s snowing in Missouri. Two years in a row with snow on the ground Christmas is pretty unusual where I grew up, but it makes my mom happy, so that makes me happy.

My brother-in-law is slowly making his way down I-55, and I’m excited about spending the holiday with friends and family tonight and tomorrow. Whether you’re celebrating or not, I hope you all enjoy the weekend and get to be around some of the people closest to you.

For now, just a few notes from a predictably slow day for baseball news.

• Good stuff from Ben Shpigel, who writes that Andy Pettitte’s decision about whether to return might impact his chances of getting into the Hall of Fame.

• Jack Curry has heard that the Yankees have discussed the idea of signing Manny Ramirez, but Manny being Manny in the Bronx seems even less likely than the Yankees bringing back Johnny Damon.

• Speaking of players unlikely to come back, Buster Olney thinks it’s unlikely that Marcus Thames will return to the Yankees.

• At the top of that Olney link is poll of 16 talent evaluators who were asked to pick the top rotations in baseball. They agreed with Olney that the Phillies and Giants are Nos. 1 and 2 by quite a bit. Not good news for the Yankees: They ranked Boston and Tampa in a tie for third.

• Over at MLB.com, Jonathan Mayo profiled the Yankees farm system and the success it had this year. “We don’t sit around patting ourselves on the back,” Mark Newman said. “We had good fortune this year. We had a bunch of guys come back from injury and a bunch of guys have good years.”

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58 Responses to “Notes and such on a snowy Christmas Eve”

  1. Betsy December 24th, 2010 at 8:42 pm

    Well, it’s hardly a surprise. You don’t have to be a talent evaluator to think that the Yankees potential rotation stinks. Boston has a great 1-2 punch, but while I expect Beckett and Lackey to improve, they are still question marks. It does seem amazing that Beckett is considered an absolute given to improve – he’s just not that great anymore. Tampa has Price and Davis, but Shields struggled. Hellickson will be good, but he’s going to very likely struggle as he goes around the league.

  2. ChokeXOnXFailure December 24th, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    Boston has a good rotation on paper, but until Bucholz strings together a couple good seasons, Matsuzaka learns how to not walk the entire ballpark, Lackey shows he can pitch effectively in the AL East, and Beckett proves he doesn’t…you know…suck, I’m skeptical as to whether or not that rotation deserves any kind of respect. As far as I’m concerned, Lester is the only “sure thing” they have.

    Bucholz is the one that confounds me the most. The guy has had exactly one good season, right after having two absolutely dreadful ones where he couldn’t manage to stay at the major league level, and apparently we’re already crowning him a vision of consistency. Is he good? Perhaps. But with all the other question marks in that rotation, I’m not willing to lean on him as a sure-fire stopper.

  3. tyanksfan36 December 24th, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    I would agree with the Rays rotation being near the top but not Boston. I think that might be some boston loving right there. Price, Davis, garza and hellickson are pretty good. Neimann was good until he hurt himself and shields… Well 5 out of 6 isn’t bad. They just need a bullpen and some offense and they will be right back there again. I think we are set in that we have good offense and CC. I’m not worried

  4. JoeyA December 24th, 2010 at 9:31 pm

    It’s not only a question of should Boston’s rotation be 3rd, or tied for 3rd, but, if not theirs, than whose?

    White Sox?
    Dodgers?
    Braves?

  5. tyanksfan36 December 24th, 2010 at 10:00 pm

    The blue jays have a pretty decent rotation

  6. GreenBeret7 December 24th, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    Former Yankees Andy Phillips hired as an assistant baseball coach at University of Alabama

  7. Tar December 24th, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    “They ranked Boston and Tampa in a tie for third”

    The same Buster Olney who last year came up with this as his pre-season top 5.
    Red Sox
    Yankees
    White Sox
    Angels
    Cardinals

    I guess if you throw enough mud at the wall some of it will stick…. Eventually

    Merry Chritmas! Happy Holidays!

  8. murphydog December 24th, 2010 at 10:24 pm

    Snow in Missouri, eh? I’m picturing Chad’s mom’s house like a big, one room log cabin somewhere in moonlit, snowy hills with a wisp of smoke rising out of the chimney and warm golden light filling the windows. Sounds pretty Norman Rockwell to me. (That’s a good thing in my book, by the way). Enjoy yourself, Chad. Merry Christmas.

  9. SAS December 24th, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    There was snow on the sides of the road in Missouri when we drove through on Saturday. The weather has been super weird this year.

    I didn’t expect Chad to even post tonight. He is terrific.

  10. tyanksfan36 December 24th, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    Snow on christmas? Blasphemy! When I was younger, well I’m still young actually, I loved the 60 to 70 degree florida christmas. Even to this day I try to wear a tanktop and shorts on christmas just because the people up north are freezing and I’m nice and warm.

  11. RS December 24th, 2010 at 10:55 pm

    The Rays may have a great rotation but those 5 pitchers and Longoria may be the only worthwhile players on the entire team.

    And how many times does the team with the best rotation (or even a top 5) actually win the WS? Seems to me that every year it’s teams like the Padres, Mariners, Athletics, Blue Jays, Dodgers, and Braves who have all this great pitching yet none of them ever make a WS appearance. The Giants were an exception last year, and they wouldn’t have even made the playoffs had they been in the AL East. They went nowhere the previous three years with great pitching.

    The Yankees need to upgrade their rotation for sure, but there’s no need to concede the season if the rotation isn’t top 5 material. Even in the postseason all you really need is two solid pitchers and one other guy to get hot at the right time.

  12. Rich in NJ December 24th, 2010 at 11:26 pm

    The RS are the bestest team ever. They should just cancel the season and give them all rings.

  13. ericns1 December 24th, 2010 at 11:40 pm

    Hey Buster maybe the Yanks should not even play the season and just concede to Boston and Philly

  14. GreenBeret7 December 24th, 2010 at 11:41 pm

    A couple of minor leaguers in the system have moved on.

    “Also, it’s worth noting that C P.J. Pilittere has signed with the Arizona Diamondbacks. Nice to see a good guy finally get out of baseball jail and hopefully get a real opportunity elsewhere. C Jose Gil has re-signed with the Yankees, and will likely start next year in Double-A Trenton.

    After eight seasons in the Yankees organization, Marcos Vechionacci has signed in Japan.
    Have seen this reported in a variety of places now, but my friends over at River Ave. Blues have got the story…Marcos Vechionacci has signed with the Hanshin Tigers in Japan.

    In eight seasons with the Yankees organization, Vechionacci — still just 24 years old — never advanced past Double-A.

    After an abysmal 2009 season in which he hit just .213 in 422 at-bats, the man known simply as “Nacci” seemed to turn things around last year. Vechionacci seemed to be revitalized after an early season move to first base, and turned in a .283/11/55 campaign for the Thunder last season.

    Mike Ashmore, mashmore98 AT gmail.com

  15. Benny Blanco December 25th, 2010 at 12:14 am

    MERRY XMAS LOHUD!!

  16. West Coast Yankee Fan December 25th, 2010 at 12:43 am

    Come on guys and gals, Buster Olney gets blamed for the poll when he didn’t even participate? If anyone took the time to read the article, you would see that there were 16 talent evaluators including general managers, assistant general managers, scouts and a player who participated. And please put down the egg nog if you think Sabathia,Hughes, Burnett, Nova and Mitre are a top ten rotation.

    But it is December and they still have time to get things straightened out and then, they have to play the games. Go Yankees!

    HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO EVERYONE!!!

  17. Yank 97 December 25th, 2010 at 12:53 am

    Rays rotation is better than Boston… even their depth guys are front-line, MLB-ready prospects.

    Price, Garza, Davis, Niemennm Shields, Hellickson, McGee, Moore, etc. Lots of options for them to choose from. Davis really came on strong for them down the stretch.

    The question is, can they score some runs? Their rotation and depth are excellent though.

  18. Nick in SF December 25th, 2010 at 12:55 am

    You don’t have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows — good thing, ‘cos I’m not a weatherman but I am sometimes curious about the wind. Right now it’s blowing too lightly where I am — just off the Playa Blanca in Mexico — which means it’s a little warmer than I’d like it to be as the last minutes of Christmas Eve tick away.

    So far all we’ve gotten in our stockings are lumps of Russell Martin and Jose Feliciano.

    Coal? Diamonds?

    Only time will tell.

    I was at the Commercial Mexicana up in Zihuatanejo earlier today, trying to find a gift for my nephew. My brother handed me a big dinosaur robot — “only 300 pesos!” Talk about a no brainer.

    It was a little less of a no brainer when the cashier scanned it and it was actually 699 pesos, but what are you gonna do? Walking to the register I passed by a Mexican gentleman carrying the same toy and we exchanged knowing glances: “this toy is going to kill tomorrow. Nice job, sir/senor.” So of course I had to buy it.

    The moral of the story is: Merry Christmas, LoHud!

    Best,

    Nick in SF in the Barra de Potosi, Guerrero, Mexico.

  19. Betsy December 25th, 2010 at 12:57 am

    I don’t see how unproven pitchers on Tampa Bay can be considered good until they actually do it. Garza did not have that good a year in 2010, but he’s a good pitcher – I forgot about him.

  20. Betsy December 25th, 2010 at 12:58 am

    I forgot about the Jays………..but they did just trade Marcum.

  21. Steve Howe a True Yankee December 25th, 2010 at 1:04 am

    Lump of coal for us. Thanks, Cashman.

  22. tyanksfan36 December 25th, 2010 at 1:07 am

    Well Hellickson has shown he can handle, starting at least in the ML. He wasn’t so good out of the bullpen but as a starter he was decent. Now I don’t know how he would stand a whole season. Mcgee got a little taste last season and I’m sure if they find he is okay in ST he will make the team. Moore is at least a season and a half or more away. He was just in A Advanced, he was the FSL strikeout leader and looked good in his start in the championships but he is a ways away.

  23. 4 NYY December 25th, 2010 at 1:23 am

    Manny should never be allowed to disgrace The Stadium playing field as a Yankee !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Bad enough if he even steps foot on it again as a visitor !!! He’s a cancerous dog !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  24. Rich in NJ December 25th, 2010 at 1:30 am

    I actually like coal as a commodity and think it will do pretty well in the upcoming year.

  25. tyanksfan36 December 25th, 2010 at 1:38 am

    Rich

    I agree, you really never can have enough coal.

  26. DaSaint007 December 25th, 2010 at 1:54 am

    Merry Christmas LoHud family!

  27. Vineyard Yankee December 25th, 2010 at 2:53 am

    Happy Holidays to All ! Hoping the Christmas Season and 2011 bring good health, happiness and good fortune to all.

  28. Mike Ri December 25th, 2010 at 7:01 am

    Merry Christmas everyone !!!

    and LETS GO YANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  29. upstate kate December 25th, 2010 at 7:10 am

    a quick Merry Christmas…and off to stuff the stockings!

  30. tyanksfan36 December 25th, 2010 at 8:03 am

    Merry Christmas Lohudders! I hope you all get to be with the ones you love and that love you today.

  31. West Coast Yankee Fan December 25th, 2010 at 8:07 am

    Look! Jeff Francis and Soriano! Thanks Santa!!!

  32. RhapsodyInBlue December 25th, 2010 at 8:13 am

    Merry Christmas everyone.

  33. MaineYankee December 25th, 2010 at 8:35 am

    Merry Christmas everyone.

    I hope ya’ll(Pettite’d) enjoy the day with family and friends.

    I’m sure randy found coal in his stocking. :lol:

    Ladies don’t work to hard cooking so you don’t enjoy the day.

    tyanksfan36

    Snow on christmas? Blasphemy! When I was younger, well I’m still young actually, I loved the 60 to 70 degree florida christmas. Even to this day I try to wear a tanktop and shorts on christmas just because the people up north are freezing and I’m nice and warm

    —————————————————————————–

    That doesn’t sound like the Christmas spirit towards us here in the north. :lol:

  34. MaineYankee December 25th, 2010 at 8:37 am

    Betsy

    My wish for you is to have one day of just happy thoughts. :lol:

  35. tyanksfan36 December 25th, 2010 at 8:54 am

    MaineYankee

    Well I’m wearing long pants tooday because its about 50 which is just about freezing to this Floridian. I hope you have a warm Christmas!

    I told my dad I wanted Andy Pettitte under my tree so he found my Pettitte card and put it in my stocking. How thoughtful of a Rays fan is that?

  36. tom tresh 15 December 25th, 2010 at 8:58 am

    Merry Christmas to All.

  37. MaineYankee December 25th, 2010 at 8:59 am

    tyanksfan36

    All I have to do is put another log on the fire. :lol:

    Sounds like your dad has a sense of humor.

  38. joeman December 25th, 2010 at 9:07 am

    rather see Aardsma & Big Z …in my Stocking ….

  39. mick December 25th, 2010 at 9:23 am

    Well…you can’t have both, Andy or Z?
    Don’t see the fascination with AArdsma.

  40. Fran the original December 25th, 2010 at 9:29 am

    Merry Christmas and happy holidays to everyone.

  41. Ruby Tuesday December 25th, 2010 at 9:29 am

    L . o . l .

  42. mick December 25th, 2010 at 9:31 am

    A Festivus for the rest of us…

  43. tyanksfan36 December 25th, 2010 at 9:32 am

    I’d take Andy. I don’t care that he is 38 going on 39 or whatever it is. I also think he would be good for the young guys since he has been around the game for so long. To share what he knows.

  44. Joe from Long Island December 25th, 2010 at 9:34 am

    To Chad, Sam, Jeff the Tech Guy, and all my friends here on the LoHud Yankkes’ Blog – Merry Christmas!

  45. Joe from Long Island December 25th, 2010 at 9:35 am

    And don’t let the grinches win!

  46. mick December 25th, 2010 at 9:36 am

    CC-AJ-Andy-Phil-Nova vs Lester-Buccholz-Beckett-Lackey-DiceK
    Close.

  47. mick December 25th, 2010 at 9:40 am

    Tex-Agon…
    Cano > Pedroia
    Jeter> Scutaro
    Arod> Youk
    Crawford>Gardner
    Granderson>Ellsbury
    Swisher>Drew
    Martin-Montero-Posada>Varitek-Salty

  48. mick December 25th, 2010 at 9:41 am

    Hard to argue against a HOF infield.

  49. joeman December 25th, 2010 at 9:41 am

    # mick December 25th, 2010 at 9:23 am

    Well…you can’t have both, Andy or Z?
    Don’t see the fascination with AArdsma.
    ———————————————–
    well if your asking me who I would rather have at this time and going forward get me Big Z & let Andy retire

    Aardsma is on the block 28 years old making 2.75 mil…has 70 saves in the last two years on a very bad team, striking out a batter a inning….can be the 8th inning RP they have been looking for and need.

  50. Laura - I Bleed Blue December 25th, 2010 at 9:42 am

    Merry Christmas all!

  51. Ruby Tuesday December 25th, 2010 at 9:45 am

    Close ?

    L . o . l.

    J*n L*st*r + C . B . >>>> C . C . + . + . + . + .

  52. joeman December 25th, 2010 at 9:47 am

    # mick December 25th, 2010 at 9:36 am

    CC-AJ-Andy-Phil-Nova vs Lester-Buccholz-Beckett-Lackey-DiceK
    Close.
    ———————————————–
    really can’t put Andy in that rotation…and even with him and everyone has a year that they are expected to have Boston’s rotation is better

  53. mick December 25th, 2010 at 9:49 am

    they are not what they used to be…Andy will be back

  54. joeman December 25th, 2010 at 9:51 am

    # mick December 25th, 2010 at 9:49 am

    they are not what they used to be…Andy will be back
    ———————————————-
    why they play the games

  55. mick December 25th, 2010 at 9:55 am

    They need a 4th OF. What if someone gets hurt? Gardner has always been a semi-platoon. Not Golson. Or Winn.

  56. mick December 25th, 2010 at 9:56 am

    If Grandy doesn’t hit leftys again, they need a RH OF. Reed Johnson?

  57. West Coast Yankee Fan December 25th, 2010 at 10:02 am

    Just for grins. Thoughts?

    Mariners to Reds:
    Dustin Ackley

    Yankees to Reds:
    Slade Heathcott
    Graham Stoneburner

    Mariners to Yankees:
    King Felix

    Reds to Yankees:
    Brandon Phillips

    Yankees to Mariners:
    Robinson Cano
    Hector Noesi
    Adam Warren

  58. brads77 December 25th, 2010 at 10:48 am

    How about Aaron Hill for Cano ?

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