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The Yankees best of 2010

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 26, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

About a week ago, MLB Network announced its 2010 GIBBY Awards to recognize the year’s best players, moments and games. The Yankees were shutout, but it’s easy enough to look back and choose a Yankees winner for each category.

ALCS Rangers Yankees BaseballPlayer of the Year
Gibby: Josh Hamilton
Yankees: Robinson Cano
Easy decision. I guess I could try to surprise you with some other pick — or try to drive people crazy by raving about Alex Rodriguez’s RBI total — but I’ll stick with with the obvious.

Starter of the Year
Gibby: Roy Halladay
Yankees: CC Sabathia
Again, pretty easy choice. Phil Hughes impressed in his first full season as a big league starter, and Andy Pettitte made a strong case for starting the all-star game, but Sabathia began the year as the Yankees ace, and it ended it that way too.

Breakout Player
Gibby: Carlos Gonzalez
Yankees: Brett Gardner
I thought about Hughes in this spot, but he was so good out of the bullpen last year, you could make the case that 2010 was simply the next logical step. He had a great year, but I think Gardner is the one who really broke onto the scene from the deep shadows.

Dependable Player
Gibby: Ichiro Suzuki
Yankees: Robinson Cano
Sabathia finished fourth in the GIBBY voting, and obviously Mariano Rivera fits here, but I like Cano in this spot. He played nearly every game, never went through an extended slump, and — according to Baseball Reference — he hit .354/.406/.522 in high leverage situations.

Setup man
Gibby: Joaquin Benoit
Yankees: Kerry Wood
I think you could make a strong case for Dave Robertson — he was actually with the team the entire year, had a terrific second half — but clearly it was Wood who brought the bullpen together and made it a complete unit down the stretch.

ALCS Yankees Rangers BaseballDefensive player
Gibby: Elvis Andrus
Yankees: Brett Gardner
I think you could go three ways with this one: Cano was outstanding and Mark Teixeira was great — regardless of his advanced metrics — but I’ll go with Gardner. He had a big left field to cover at Yankee Stadium, and he did more than flash his obvious range. Gardner also showed that an accurate arm and quick release can make a difference, and he was a more-than-capable fill-in when Curtis Granderson couldn’t play center.

Executive of the Year
Gibby: Brian Sabean
Yankees: Mark Newman
This award doesn’t really work within a single organization, but I’ll give Newman credit for the Yankees terrific success in the minor league system this year.

Manager of the Year
Gibby: Bruce Bochy
Yankees: Joe Girardi
Again, this one doesn’t really work within the Yankees system. It’s hard to compare what a Major League manager does against what a minor league manager does. I’m amazed at the work Dave Miley and his staff have done to keep Scranton/Wilkes-Barre consistently winning in Triple-A, but I’ll give Girardi credit, if only because I think he took more heat than he deserved. His moves were wildly unpopular, but he had a team that was falling apart in September, and he got them healthy in time for October. It’s impossible to manage a team that simply stops hitting at the wrong time, and in the end, that was the Yankees problem.

Rookie of the Year
Gibby: Buster Posey
Yankees: Ivan Nova
I’m pretty sure Francisco Cervelli burned his rookie status in 2009 — more than 45 days on the active roster — which leaves only a few candidates on the Yankees roster. Of the young guys who came up from Triple-A, Nova gave the Yankees the most significant and most lasting boost.

Postseason MVP
Gibby: Tim Lincecum
Yankees: Curtis Granderson
I also like Rivera for this one, and Pettitte would be a solid choice, but I’ll go with Granderson and his .357/.514/.607 slash line in the playoffs.

Close of the Year
Gibby: Brian Wilson
Yankees: Mariano Rivera
You were expecting Jonathan Albaladejo?

ALCS Yankees Rangers BaseballX-Factor
Gibby: Carlos Ruiz
Yankees: Marcus Thames
Specifically, it was Thames’ ability to hit right-handed pitching that was an x-factor for the Yankees. The Yankees brought him in expecting a platoon player, but when Nick Johnson landed on the disabled list and Randy Winn was shipped out of town, Thames became the Yankees top bench option and primary designated hitter. His .549 slugging percentage against righties made him a viable everyday option when necessary.

Oddity of the Year
Gibby: Roy Oswalt in left field
Yankees: Marcus Thames at third base
Maybe Juan Miranda’s walk-off walk? Chad Gaudin being cut in spring training and still pitching in 30 games? Chan Ho Park’s unexpected postgame interview in Boston? Derek Jeter’s fake hit by pitch? For absolute oddity, I like Thames’ spending one inning at third base, making a nice backhand play and then making perhaps the worst throw in the history of the game. The fact the game was already over made it OK for everyone, including Thames, to laugh at the play. Jeter’s phantom HBP got more press, but that’s just because it was Jeter. I’m not sure it was actually all that unusual.

Play of the Year
Gibby: Mark Buehrle’s between-the-legs flip
Yankees: Greg Golson’s throw from right field
Cervelli went tumbling into the dugout and Gardner made more than one leaping catch in the outfield, but I can’t look past Golson’s throw to nab Carl Crawford trying to go second-to-third in the ninth inning. It was a game-ending play, by an unexpected player, in the middle of a hot pennant race. One of the best moments of the year.

Moment of the Year
Gibby: Dallas Braden’s Mother’s Day
Yankees: Winning in memory of The Boss
It was inevitable that the first game after George Steinbrenner’s death would be emotional, but it would have been difficult to predict a late-inning rally and ninth-inning walk-off.  The Boss would have been proud.

ALDS Twins Yankees BaseballFan Moment
Gibby: That guy who let the foul ball hit his girl friend
Yankees: Nick Swisher being elected to the all-star game
I know the GIBBY awards were looking for something more off-the-wall than my choice, but Yankees fans made a big push to get Swisher elected, and it worked. Girardi knew what he was doing when he picked his right fielder for the final vote ballot.

Performance of the Year
Gibby: Armando Galarraga
Yankees: Alex Rodriguez
Choose one: Rodriguez hitting the 600th home run of his career, or Rodriguez going deep three times during a game in Kansas City. Since this is really all about a single performance, I’ll go with the three-homer game, which played no small part in A-Rod getting back to 30 homers for the year.

Game of the Year
Gibby: Strasburg’s debut
Yankees: Comeback in Los Angeles
The GIBBY award voting had the Sabathia-Price duel ranked fifth, but the first game that jumped to my mind was the Yankees comeback against the Dodgers at the end of an interleague series in L.A. The Yankees had to rally against Jonathan Broxton, Mariano Rivera pitched two scoreless innings to get the win and close it out, and both Chad Huffman and Colin Curtis played significant roles. Can’t say I disagree with Sabathia vs. Price — that was epic — but the Dodgers game jumped to my mind.

Postseason moment of the Year
Gibby: Halladay’s no-hitter
Yankees: Game 1 of the ALCS
Granted, it was all downhill from there, but when the Yankees opened the ALCS with a five-run rally in the eighth inning, it really seemed to set the stage for something special. Guess not.

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200 Responses to “The Yankees best of 2010”

  1. NYD December 26th, 2010 at 9:26 am

    What the heck does Gibby stand for?

  2. MTU December 26th, 2010 at 9:37 am

    Good morning.

    Back to work on the Ark.

    It’s raining AGAIN.

    I’m moving to Seattle so I can get some Sun.

    Wierd, wierd weather.

    :)

  3. MaineYankee December 26th, 2010 at 9:41 am

    MTU

    Good morning.

    You can take solice in the fact that it’s not snow.

    Be carefull the DM don’t float away. :lol:

  4. Ruby Tuesday December 26th, 2010 at 9:42 am

    L . o . l .

  5. joeman December 26th, 2010 at 9:43 am

    B Gardner …..I’d put him in a package along with joba and whoever else and trade his butt in two seconds for a SP…..

  6. MTU December 26th, 2010 at 9:44 am

    Maine-

    At this point I would take snow (which is in the forecast).

    One thing I can’t stand is gray, cloudy weather.

    Especially day after day.

    I love my blue skies.

    Maybe I have SAD. Isn’t that caused by a lack of Sunshine ?

    Hope you and the rest of Family had a great Xmas.

    Congrats on the new grandaughter.

  7. MTU December 26th, 2010 at 9:51 am

    Al-

    Maybe the Military is screwin’ with our weather ?

    Like somethin’ out of the “X Files”.

    ;)

  8. MaineYankee December 26th, 2010 at 9:52 am

    MTU

    Yes, lack of sunshine is an issue. It’s a big problem in Alaska. Also on some of the islands during the winter.

    We had a nice Christmas. Spent it at my sons with my 2 other children and 10yr old GS as well.

    My GD is 7mo old and was alot of fun yesterday. She has gone from being an infant to being a “real person”. :lol:

    I hope you and yours had a nice day. Did you get the DM a pair of galoshes or stilts. :lol:

  9. SAS December 26th, 2010 at 9:53 am

    Good morning all from Sunny AZ,

    Doreen,

    If you can’t find a snow blower, is there someone around that plows driveways. The length of our NY driveway would even make it difficult for a strong football player if this thing is as bad as reported. We have always used that service, but for us, it is the only answer. That’s what happens when you are country bumpkins.

    I hope you are successful in your endeavors….Home Depot, Lowes and Sears seem like the best options to me.

  10. Giuseppe Franco December 26th, 2010 at 9:53 am

    It might be wise to stop including Gardner in fantasy trades since he’s not going anywhere.

  11. SAS December 26th, 2010 at 9:56 am

    MTU,

    I am sorry about the Ark situation. I thought this Western storm wasn’t going to be so bad. I guess it depends what the weather folk consider bad.

    Hope you had a happy holiday.

  12. MaineYankee December 26th, 2010 at 9:56 am

    joeman

    The yankees finally have a good OF defensivley and you want to change that?

    The idea of trading Gardner and putting JD out there is just plain crazy. I know you haven’t said that but others have.

  13. MTU December 26th, 2010 at 9:58 am

    Maine-

    Glad to hear that Santa treated you guys well.

    We had a quiet evening. I made “Fajitas” and we watched a movie called “Inception”.

    Both aspects were excellent.

    The DM’s aren’t happy either. They like to take me out so they can play. This weather is for Labs.

    Good thing we have 2 as that works well with the Ark.

    :)

  14. MTU December 26th, 2010 at 10:02 am

    SAS-

    Like everything else this phase of sub-par weather will pass.

    More than likely we will get a stretch of exceptionally fine weather at some point just to balance it out.

    In all seriousness, the SW needs as much moisture as we can get.

    This is really going to help our watershed which is good.

    Our Holiday was quiet and peaceful which is how we like it.

    Hope yours was good too.

  15. MaineYankee December 26th, 2010 at 10:03 am

    MTU

    Sometimes a quiet evening is just the thing.

    We have a son and GS living with us so it’s just a dream at this point. Hoping to find out in the near future what it’s like.

  16. ron December 26th, 2010 at 10:06 am

    The problem is what can gardner & joba get you & what pitcher is available?

    When you start looking at greinke & pitchers like that it might not be worth giving up gardner,montero,nunez & one of betances/banuelos for a 4 era pitcher.

    If i trade montero,betances/banuelos & more,i wan’t king felix,jj or someone similar.

    I think where cashman dropped the ball is when he did not trade for a pitcher after watching vazquez & burnett implode during this past season,knowing vaz was not coming back & pettitte possibly retiring.
    I know he tried too trade for lee but i would not of stopped til i landed a pitcher,especially with montero on fire in AAA.

    I would of traded montero,gardner,one of the killer b’s & nunez for an elite pitcher.
    You can get anybody for lf in the offseason & what are the chances of one of the killer b’s turning into an ace or montero sticking at catcher?

    Not sure a trade could have been done but i don’t like the idea that cash waited so long.

  17. joeman December 26th, 2010 at 10:06 am

    # Giuseppe Franco December 26th, 2010 at 9:53 am

    It might be wise to stop including Gardner in fantasy trades since he’s not going anywhere.
    ———————————–
    I don’t believe you your never right

  18. MTU December 26th, 2010 at 10:08 am

    Maine-

    Think sound of “crickets”. That’s a start.

    :)

  19. SAS December 26th, 2010 at 10:11 am

    MTU,

    I am sort of Grinch-like over this time of year. I am not proud of it, but I find all the hype hard to take. We stayed home and did nothing important and I could have gotten more things accomplished. I am one that is happy on January 1.

  20. MaineYankee December 26th, 2010 at 10:12 am

    ron

    Do you know that Cashman didn’t try to get a pitcher?

    Also you don’t make trades no matter the cost.

  21. Ruby Tuesday December 26th, 2010 at 10:16 am

    Instead of broadcasting the 2011 games, I suggested Y . E . S . to re-broadcast the 2009 games .

    I believe our Yankees are going to have the most abysmal season since 1992 .

    . . . Just getting myself ready for the worst .

  22. Ruby Tuesday December 26th, 2010 at 10:16 am

    :(

  23. MTU December 26th, 2010 at 10:18 am

    SAS-

    Being of another faith, Xmas is not really my Holiday.

    I appreciate it from the perspective of Family and good tidings.

    I have heard from many people that it has become more and more commercial, and a bit less about Love and Family for some.

    Still, I would think that any extra amount of attention that gets focused there is excellent.

    My favorite Holiday is Turkey Day.

  24. MaineYankee December 26th, 2010 at 10:18 am

    The RS are going to relive 1978.

  25. SAS December 26th, 2010 at 10:18 am

    Ron,

    Things happen for a reason. Overpaying a player who doesn’t want to be in NY isn’t the answer to any problem. There are far more players who would love to be with the Yankees and even the Mets than not.

    Even in the down years of the 80′s and early 90′s, the Yankees put respectable teams on the field. I believe that Cashman will get a #4 pitcher if Andy does not return. There even could be a big time trade. All of this will have to until at least sometime next week/this week..

  26. SAS December 26th, 2010 at 10:20 am

    MTU,

    My situation is the same.

  27. MaineYankee December 26th, 2010 at 10:21 am

    MTU

    My favorite Holiday is Turkey Day

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    I’ll resist the temptation to take a shot at you with that line. :lol:

  28. BIG AL December 26th, 2010 at 10:22 am

    MTU -

    Mike, I sent you some pictures of the beautiful weather here in NC. I’ll trade you for your rain.

  29. Giuseppe Franco December 26th, 2010 at 10:23 am

    # joeman December 26th, 2010 at 10:06 am

    # Giuseppe Franco December 26th, 2010 at 9:53 am

    It might be wise to stop including Gardner in fantasy trades since he’s not going anywhere.
    ———————————–
    I don’t believe you your never right

    ————

    You seriously couldn’t be that dumb. Then again, you did say the Yanks were finished in May of 2009 so I suppose you are capable of anything.

    The fact is that Cashman didn’t even make a serious run at either Werth or Crawford. Why? Because they obviously think that Gardner is doing a capable job in LF.

    Cashman is telling you in plain English that he doesn’t want to trade Gardner. Perhaps you should listen once in awhile instead of living in joeman’s world of idiocy.

  30. MaineYankee December 26th, 2010 at 10:23 am

    MTU

    Being of the faith that celebrates Christmas it has been far removed from what it means to me.

  31. MTU December 26th, 2010 at 10:25 am

    Maine-

    I was well aware of the potential humor as I posted it.

    It’s good you have learned a little bit of self-control.

    Unlike some around here.

    :)

  32. BIG AL December 26th, 2010 at 10:27 am

    MTU -

    Stop complaining, and get back to building that ark.

  33. MTU December 26th, 2010 at 10:28 am

    Al-

    I saw them and responded.

    Time just whizzes by, doesn’t it ?

    The purity that snow symbolizes is very beautiful.

  34. joeman December 26th, 2010 at 10:28 am

    Giuseppe Franco

    Perhaps you should listen once in awhile instead of living in joeman’s world of idiocy.

    maybe you should listen to me once in a while..

    AG is going to be traded to Boston

    Lee isn’t coming here

    Andy is going to retire

  35. MaineYankee December 26th, 2010 at 10:30 am

    MTU

    Self control isn’t one of my strengths. You have no idea how hard it is to not take a pot shot at someone when the opportunity presents itself. :lol:

    Especially when the bullseye is so big.

  36. MTU December 26th, 2010 at 10:30 am

    Al-

    I prefer a set of “gills” like Costner in “Waterworld”.

    It’s easier.

    Has the Mini Ice Age started yet ?

  37. ron December 26th, 2010 at 10:30 am

    MaineYankee

    I do know that he tried for lee,twice & inquired about liriano but going by what i read not much else.

    If i was him i would of tried to trade vaz also.

    I also know that you don’t trade for a pitcher at any cost that is why i wrote that i am not sure i would give up a ton for greinke.

    What i do know is we have a very good farm system,a 180-220 million dollar payroll & our pitching on paper does not look so great.

    If cashman has been trying since last years asb then i don’t have a problem with it,but if he waited til lee’s decision then i have a big problem with it.

  38. MaineYankee December 26th, 2010 at 10:31 am

    BIG AL December 26th, 2010 at 10:27 am
    MTU -

    Stop complaining, and get back to building that ark
    ———————————————————————-

    It sounds like you should be building an igloo. :lol:

  39. MTU December 26th, 2010 at 10:33 am

    Maine-

    Very admirable. I know it must be very tough for you.

    Maybe you need another visit to “Cadillac mountain”.

    ;)

  40. Tar December 26th, 2010 at 10:36 am

    Curtis Granderson post season MVP.

    Where is that Granderson hater when you need him? I hope he’s not choking on all that crow he’s eating. :D

  41. Fran the original December 26th, 2010 at 10:36 am

    Good morning all. Hope everyone enjoyed their holidays.

    Bracing for the big blizzard. Then after it ends tomorrow, temps are supposed to get into the high 30′s and low 40′s the rest of the week. Should make for a real mess.

  42. BIG AL December 26th, 2010 at 10:41 am

    Maine -

    I feel like I’m living in one right now, lol.

  43. joeman December 26th, 2010 at 10:42 am

    # Fran the original December 26th, 2010 at 10:36 am

    Good morning all. Hope everyone enjoyed their holidays.

    Bracing for the big blizzard. Then after it ends tomorrow, temps are supposed to get into the high 30’s and low 40’s the rest of the week. Should make for a real mess.
    —————————————————————————————————————-
    worst part of storm is NYC north into CT…..over 16 inches of snow with very strong winds for about 6hrs in height of storm…….

    got notified 6 am this morning…I’m on call, not going to be fun but it’s winter in the northeast

  44. MaineYankee December 26th, 2010 at 10:44 am

    ron

    Believing what we hear in the press is like looking at a big pile of horse manure and believing it’s lobster.

    Only a small % of what the press reports has any truth to it and to determine the difference is futile.

  45. BIG AL December 26th, 2010 at 10:44 am

    MTU -

    The good news, the sun returns tomorrow, and by the end of the week, we’re back to the mid 60′s, which is not bad for this time of year.

    At least if I were milking cows, the milk wouldn’t turn to butter before it hit the pail, like in Maine.

  46. MaineYankee December 26th, 2010 at 10:46 am

    BIG AL December 26th, 2010 at 10:41 am
    Maine -

    I feel like I’m living in one right now, lol.

    ——————————————————–

    Welcome to our world. :lol:

    Actually kate has alot more snow than we do at this point. We have enough to just cover the ground.

    It sounds like that is going to change tomorrow.

  47. lounge lizard December 26th, 2010 at 10:46 am

    When I look at Gardner’s line of 101 SOs and 5 HRs in 2010, I ask myself when have the Yankees ever had a player like that. The answer is just about never. Bobby Meacham in 1984 had 102 SOs and 1 HR playing SS, then was out of a job the next year. As best I can tell, Yanks have never employed an OF who had more than 100 SOs and fewer than double digit HRs in a single year.

    Juan Pierre, to whom Gardner has been compared, never struck out more than 52 times in a season, and that’s with way over 700 PAs. If Gardner led off and played a full season, at last year’s rate, he’d strike out 125-130 times. There are extremely few guys in ML history who’ve been allowed to do that (with negligible power) for any length of time. Vince Coleman got away with it for a few years when he was stealing 110 bases a year.

    I understand that the SOs are part of a strategy that resulted in a lot of walks, and some statistical programs put a high value on the resulting OBA, but I doubt there is a much of a trade market for the “model” Gardner offers.

  48. YankeesNmore December 26th, 2010 at 10:47 am

    WOW! How did you guys ever find the time to squeeze in a “best of the year” recap with all the activity from the Yankees this winter…

    Oh… That’s right… That worthless sack of dog $#!t Brian Cashman is still our GM!

    No wonder this blog has taken to updating other sports. Good luck finding something with which to fill space for the next two months.

  49. BIG AL December 26th, 2010 at 10:47 am

    Fran -

    Just a little something coming your way from us down south, don’t forget your boots and shovel, you’ll be needing them.

  50. Giuseppe Franco December 26th, 2010 at 10:47 am

    # joeman December 26th, 2010 at 10:28 am

    Giuseppe Franco

    Perhaps you should listen once in awhile instead of living in joeman’s world of idiocy.

    maybe you should listen to me once in a while..

    AG is going to be traded to Boston

    Lee isn’t coming here

    Andy is going to retire

    ———–

    And what do those three things all have in common?

    The worst case scenario in each instance, which is all you do here 24/7.

    It doesn’t take a genius to predict doom and gloom all the time. It takes a village idiot.

  51. MaineYankee December 26th, 2010 at 10:48 am

    Big Al

    At least if I were milking cows, the milk wouldn’t turn to butter before it hit the pail, like in Maine.

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    I’ll have you know we’ve moved into the modern age and have milking machines now. :lol:

  52. ron December 26th, 2010 at 10:49 am

    I live in ct,new haven area.
    Supposed to be very nasty.

    I was off sat,today & tuesday so if i can’t get too work tomorrow i am off sat,sund,monday,tuesday.
    I will shovel early evening & throw some salt down,then maybe again late evening,then see what it looks like in the morning.
    I just got a new car in may so i don’t know how it is in the snow.

    Guess i’ll find out soon enough.

    I just can’t believe the football season is almost over.What is it 40 something days til pitchers & catchers report?

  53. BIG AL December 26th, 2010 at 10:49 am

    YankeesNmore December 26th, 2010 at 10:47 am

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    Take your sorry act back to the RS blog, Pete Abe is looking for you. You are nothing but a giant, negative troll.

  54. MTU December 26th, 2010 at 10:50 am

    Al-

    That’s good. Our weather is kind of a mixed bag this week.

    Some Sun with intervening rain.

    Better than another bout with the great flood.

    At some point we’ll get back to normal. The sooner the better of course.

  55. BIG AL December 26th, 2010 at 10:51 am

    Maine -

    Machines, for real? What happens when the machines fail, or the power goes out, still remember how to “Pull” it all together.

  56. MaineYankee December 26th, 2010 at 10:53 am

    I love when people cherry pick stats to make their argument.

  57. YankeesNmore December 26th, 2010 at 10:54 am

    Hard to be positive when the only thing Cashman does is sign broken down $#!tbag players nobody else wants.

  58. BIG AL December 26th, 2010 at 10:54 am

    MTU -

    If I get any good using that new printer, after it arrives, I’m going to try and put Jim’s pictures on a 13″ X 44″ roll, and see if I can’t duplicate that panaramic picture. If, and only IF, I’m successful, I’ll send you both a copy.

  59. Laura - I Bleed Blue December 26th, 2010 at 10:54 am

    That Golson throw was pretty amazing. Even more shocking that Crawford ran in that situation. Here’s hoping he has more mental gaffes with Boston.

  60. Fran the original December 26th, 2010 at 10:55 am

    joeman,
    I am in Queens. Right in the heart of it. Where are you? The winds are going to make it worse because of the snow drifts. Already snowing here.

    Big Al,
    Thanks. Already have the boots and snow shovel ready. But we probably won’t clean until tomorrow AM when this mess is all over.

  61. MaineYankee December 26th, 2010 at 10:55 am

    Big Al

    What is this “power” you speak of. :lol:

    We used a tracter driven alternator that powered the place.

    needed it for 4 days during the ice storm of 98.

  62. JCPD December 26th, 2010 at 10:56 am

    ha ha……… 16 inches…………… my heart bleeds for you……….. it’s winter time, that’s what it does in the winter up north…………. we’ve had 71 inches so far in December, sorry, but my life doesn’t stop just because of a little bit of snow………….. embrace and enjoy!!!!

  63. BIG AL December 26th, 2010 at 10:56 am

    Mike -

    There’s a very bright thing in the sky, could it be that thing they call a Sun? Maybe the storm is about to end, go north storm, go north, God’s speed.

  64. Fran the original December 26th, 2010 at 10:57 am

    ron,

    What kind of car? Does it have 4 wheel drive?

  65. joeman December 26th, 2010 at 10:57 am

    Fran the original December 26th, 2010 at 10:55 am

    joeman,
    I am in Queens. Right in the heart of it. Where are you? The winds are going to make it worse because of the snow drifts. Already snowing here.
    ——————————————————————–
    up in the Waterbury area of CT……watching the live cam from Times Square and can see it snowing there now…

  66. SAS December 26th, 2010 at 10:57 am

    MTU,

    By the way, before we all are back into baseball in a big way. Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday also.

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    Fran and all NYer’s (general area around NY), take it easy. I haven’t heard the latest and of course, as all native Easterners know, it may not be as bad as forecast, but take it easy on the roads…this storm sounds mean.

  67. Fran the original December 26th, 2010 at 10:59 am

    we’ve had 71 inches so far in December
    **********************
    JCPD,

    Guess that puts it all in perspective :)

  68. BIG AL December 26th, 2010 at 10:59 am

    JCPD -

    The north pole has landed in Syracuse, and will not leave until late April.

    I know, what we got here would be called a dusting up by you, but, we’re not supposed to get it, that’s the difference.

  69. MTU December 26th, 2010 at 11:01 am

    Al-

    That would great.

    :)

  70. BIG AL December 26th, 2010 at 11:01 am

    SAS -

    MTU likes Thanksgiving because he has so much in common with the main course. Just talking Turkey that is.

  71. Fran the original December 26th, 2010 at 11:01 am

    SAS,

    Thanks. Glad you are in the warmth of Arizona. The totals are supposed to be high-excess of a foot, but I think the wind it what’s going to make it worse. The clean up will be hard until tomorrow when the winds are supposed to die down.

  72. JCPD December 26th, 2010 at 11:02 am

    The north pole has landed in Syracuse, and will not leave until late April.

    ——————————————————-
    That might be true Al, but I do know, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. So, we’ve had 71 inches here, yet 110 miles away at home in Corning, there is no snow on the ground….. it was a brown Christmas there.

  73. MaineYankee December 26th, 2010 at 11:03 am

    Big Al

    6 inches is a dusting. :lol:

  74. Fran the original December 26th, 2010 at 11:05 am

    joeman,

    Just starting to stick here. Be careful if you have to go out. The worst is supposedly yet to come this afternoon/evening.

  75. austinmac December 26th, 2010 at 11:05 am

    Chad,

    I have been impressed with your new topics even in a very slow off-season. Very creative. Only two more months until spring training when topics will be a bit easier to come by. Thanks for your efforts.

  76. BIG AL December 26th, 2010 at 11:06 am

    Maine -

    I know, coming from the mountains in NE PA, where we averaged 110″ of snow each year, I’d laugh if people complained about 6″ of snow. We use to measure our storms by the feet.

  77. BIG AL December 26th, 2010 at 11:08 am

    JCPD -

    When you get back home, will you be working at the same place, or are they moving you?

  78. joeman December 26th, 2010 at 11:09 am

    # Fran the original December 26th, 2010 at 11:05 am

    joeman,

    Just starting to stick here. Be careful if you have to go out. The worst is supposedly yet to come this afternoon/evening.
    —————————————————————————————–

    my job is to go out in this….just as long as the power stays on I stay home…

  79. Betsy December 26th, 2010 at 11:09 am

    Well I guess no work tomorrow, yay, lol

    We’re supposed to get 12-18 out in Nassau County……ouch.

  80. Betsy December 26th, 2010 at 11:10 am

    Fran, you sound like the narrator from the old Batman tv show, lol – stay tuned: the worst is yet to come!

  81. JCPD December 26th, 2010 at 11:10 am

    I’ll be working in Horseheads, a 15 mile drive from Corning, which will take me 20 minutes. No traffic is a wonderful thing. Eventually though, I’d like to get transferred out of the area.

  82. BIG AL December 26th, 2010 at 11:13 am

    JCPD -

    Perhaps a nice new place in NC, we’d love that type of sports bar here. And I love the menu!

  83. Vineyard Yankee December 26th, 2010 at 11:15 am

    MTU:

    Did you get oars or seats for the ark from Santa ?

  84. JCPD December 26th, 2010 at 11:16 am

    Believe it or not, I have my eyes set on the one in Matthews……. just a dream at this point…… but then my dream changes and wishes for some place near the coast.

  85. joeman December 26th, 2010 at 11:16 am

    talking about putting Phil…Minn game off till tomorrow

  86. Fran the original December 26th, 2010 at 11:17 am

    Betsy,

    LOL. This is like a replay of the February storm. Stay safe. At least you’ll get an extended weekend out of this.

  87. YankeesNmore December 26th, 2010 at 11:18 am

    austinmac
    December 26th, 2010 at 11:05 am
    “Chad,
    I have been impressed with your new topics even in a very slow off-season. Very creative. Only two more months until spring training when topics will be a bit easier to come by. Thanks for your efforts.”

    I second this. Not easy to fill space when you’re covering a team whose idea of “something big” is trading for a $#!tbag loser like Javy Crapzquez for a SECOND time… A YEAR ago…

    I’m not making that up… Cashman’s people actually were quoted last year as saying they were “on the verge of something big” just before they traded for Crapzquez. And our loser GM has done nothing but $#!t his pants since.

    It’s past time for a change. Not an accident the Yankees were a .500 team from the end of July on last season.

  88. alvarofer December 26th, 2010 at 11:19 am

    Don’t agree with play of the year … Mo’s getting the grounder and skipping the broken bat at the same time!

  89. Fran the original December 26th, 2010 at 11:20 am

    talking about putting Phil…Minn game off till tomorrow
    ********************
    The Vikings would have another game postponed. 2 in 3 weeks is amazing considering that NFL games are rarely postponed.

  90. alvarofer December 26th, 2010 at 11:20 am

    When are we having a link to nomaas.org?

  91. Bx is Burning December 26th, 2010 at 11:20 am

    Ruby Tuesday December 26th, 2010 at 10:16 am
    Instead of broadcasting the 2011 games, I suggested Y . E . S . to re-broadcast the 2009 games .

    ———————————————————–

    SMH. Stick with ‘suggesting’ Fruit Loops when your mom goes shopping, *ssh*l*.

  92. Erin December 26th, 2010 at 11:21 am

    Starting my day seeing a picture of Robbie….I thought Christmas was over!! ;)

    Hope everyone had a nice holiday.

  93. 108 stitches December 26th, 2010 at 11:23 am

    Tomorrow on the Cross Bronx X-Way, the BQE, the L.I.E., the bridges & tunnels …… OUCH !

  94. Betsy December 26th, 2010 at 11:23 am

    Fran, we were the last ones (basically) to get plowed after that storm – I almost felt claustrophobic that I couldn’t get out, lol. I like that it’s going to warm up – the snow will melt faster (though with this much snow, I think we’re going to see mounds of it for weeks)

  95. joeman December 26th, 2010 at 11:23 am

    # Fran the original December 26th, 2010 at 11:20 am

    talking about putting Phil…Minn game off till tomorrow
    ********************
    The Vikings would have another game postponed. 2 in 3 weeks is amazing considering that NFL games are rarely postponed.
    ——————————————————

    if I would think that Minn wanted their season to be over with already….

  96. Betsy December 26th, 2010 at 11:23 am

    Today’s a good day to catch up on some stuff on DVR – and hope the Bears rip the Jets to pieces, lol

  97. Vineyard Yankee December 26th, 2010 at 11:25 am

    Bx:

    Aldo won’t appreciate you slamming his alter ego. LOL !

  98. joeman December 26th, 2010 at 11:26 am

    # Betsy December 26th, 2010 at 11:23 am

    Today’s a good day to catch up on some stuff on DVR – and hope the Bears rip the Jets to pieces, lol
    —————————————————————————–
    I hope the Bears stomp( get it) on them

  99. tyanksfan36 December 26th, 2010 at 11:29 am

    Chad

    I was at the game where Golson threw out Crawford at 3rd base! I definitely agree that was the best play.

    The play that I thought was best all season was when Granderson and Gardner collided in the outfield, the ball went from gardner’s glove into Granderson’s and he hung on to it. That was a crazy play.

  100. BIG AL December 26th, 2010 at 11:34 am

    Later folks.

  101. Fran the original December 26th, 2010 at 11:35 am

    Betsy and joeman,

    That’s where we disagree. I am an avid Jets fan and am pulling for the Jets today.

  102. joeman December 26th, 2010 at 11:40 am

    # BIG AL December 26th, 2010 at 11:34 am

    Later folks.
    ————————————
    catch you later

  103. Betsy December 26th, 2010 at 11:41 am

    Fran, I’m a Bears fan so it’s to be expected. I want them to go into the playoffs playing as well as possible. I’m not sure how far they will go to try and clinch a bye with the 2nd seed…….the Jets technically need this game more. I don’t think the field conditions in Chicago will be that great.

  104. MTU December 26th, 2010 at 11:44 am

    VY-

    The way things are goin’ I could have used them.

    How are conditions out your way ? I’d imagine you got hit pretty hard too.

  105. Fran the original December 26th, 2010 at 11:46 am

    Betsy,

    The Jets do need this more with a chance to clinch a playoff spot. But I do agree with you that the 2nd seed for the Bears and a first round bye can be a pretty big deal.

    Hope it’s a good game.

  106. AldotheApache December 26th, 2010 at 11:54 am

    Vineyard Yankee says:
    December 26, 2010 at 11:25 am
    Bx:

    Aldo won’t appreciate you slamming his alter ego. LOL !

    ——————————-

    West Coast Nancy aka Vineyard and whatever other names you use here …

    I guess you need some reminding -

    I am not interested in ANY discourse whatsoever with you.

    Take your obsessions elsewhere.

    Try and have some respect for this community and confine your creepy comments to the Yankees and baseball.

  107. ron December 26th, 2010 at 12:02 pm

    Fran the original :

    Sorry in taking so long too respond,had too go get food & rock salt.

    I have a kia,no 4 wheel drive.

    I just wanted a cheap car payment & good on gas,nothing fancy.

    240.00 a month payment,The car i traded in i almost had too push it in the dealers driveway.

  108. SAS December 26th, 2010 at 12:02 pm

    Hard to believe the NFL would put off a game because of a blizzard. I always thought that that was what football was all about. As we witnessed a couple of weeks ago, only if domes blow down is there an excuse to defer a game for weather purposes, and thunderstorms of course.

  109. mick December 26th, 2010 at 12:02 pm

    Nova and Mitre in the rotation is a disaster waiting to happen.
    =========================================
    There is no way in heck that is going t happen. We’d go get a Penny if we had to…

  110. Betsy December 26th, 2010 at 12:02 pm

    Fran, stay safe. I’m going to go out for a few minutes before it gets impossible……..enjoy the game!

  111. mick December 26th, 2010 at 12:05 pm

    It’s impossible out there now. People are panicking, there are lines in the supermkt and on the streets…

  112. mick December 26th, 2010 at 12:06 pm

    People are buying food like they will be shut in the rest of the week.

  113. Fran the original December 26th, 2010 at 12:09 pm

    ron,
    KIA’s are good cars. Stay safe.

    Betsy,
    You be careful too. Talk to you later.

    SAS,
    The only reason I could see postponing the game is because they want to keep the roads clear and don’t want 65,000 people trying to get home and possibly getting stranded.

  114. AldotheApache December 26th, 2010 at 12:11 pm

    mick says:
    December 26, 2010 at 12:02 pm
    Nova and Mitre in the rotation is a disaster waiting to happen.
    =========================================
    There is no way in heck that is going t happen. We’d go get a Penny if we had to…

    —————————-

    mick, agree with you on the “no way in heck” part.

    I’m not fond of the idea of Penny in pinstripes, though. Last time I saw him was ’09 when the Yankees blasted him all the way to the NL.

  115. mick December 26th, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    Want no part of Penny either.
    It’s too early to panic.
    When Andy returns we all will exhale a sigh of relief.
    Funny how a 39 year old will do that to Yankee fans.
    Watch out for the evildoers as they will say we are desperate.

  116. ron December 26th, 2010 at 12:14 pm

    I am in new haven ct area in ct & i just wen’t out for groceries & the store is insane,barely a single parking spot.

    I got a nice roast in the crock pot with mash potatoes & corn on the side.

    A nice cola roast,comes out like prime rib.

    *A roast
    *package of lipton onion soup mix
    *can of crm mushroom soup
    *can of cola/pepsi

    Set the crockpot on low & it stops automatically,best roast you will ever eat.

  117. Vineyard Yankee December 26th, 2010 at 12:14 pm

    MTU:

    Was your Holiday good ? Where do the mops sit in the ark or are they up on deck helping you navigate ? Sorry to say but more rain here, I was trying to send it towards the Southwest instead of your way, don’t now how persausive I am though.

  118. Fran the original December 26th, 2010 at 12:16 pm

    ron,

    that sounds interesting. Have to try that recipe sometime.

  119. austinmac December 26th, 2010 at 12:16 pm

    I feel confident the Yankees must realize their rotation problems. It is when people on this board act as if the rotation is acceptable that I must respond. Do they have time to act? Of course. My point is simply this: they have no choice. A trade will have to be made that will have people angry about what was given up. Hopefully, the other team’s fans will think they got short changed as well.

  120. mick December 26th, 2010 at 12:20 pm

    A trade will have to be made that will have people angry about what was given up.
    =====================================================
    Not necessarily true. There are FA moves that can be made as their market value tumbles.
    A 5th starter is not essential in April. If Andy returns, which I think will be announced soon, people will be relieved. No need to panic yet.

  121. MTU December 26th, 2010 at 12:21 pm

    VY-

    Quiet and peaceful. Just the way we like it. Yours ?

    They are the official Ark mascots therefore they’ll go up top.

    Don’t like the gray skies but we certainly can use the water.

    I’d love to get out to Lake Powell and see the difference all this rain made.

    Might just have to do that at some point. Hope your pets are doin’ well.

  122. austinmac December 26th, 2010 at 12:23 pm

    I hope Pettitte returns, but news reports indicate he likely will not. Has he even worked out tomget ready? A 39 year old needs it more than anyone.

    Hoping for Pettitte is as risky as hoping for Lee and Wood. It is bad policy and foolhardy.

  123. Vineyard Yankee December 26th, 2010 at 12:23 pm

    Aldo / Ruby / CR9:

    I know its tough for you trying to maintain all those different handles and change your writing styles with each one, I’m sure if you keep at it you will master it over time. Of course if you have forgotten any of the dozens you use and would like me to post your list that you confirmed with the link just let me know. I’d be happy to help you out old buddy.

    I only have the Vineyard handle here on LoHud. Now hurry up and do a copy and paste and post this over at BTB. LMAO !

  124. AldotheApache December 26th, 2010 at 12:25 pm

    mick, never paid any attention (other than scoffing) to the ‘glass half empty’ crew. Not gonna start now.

    Lotsa things went wrong for our guys in 2010, yet they got within two games of the World Series.

    I like the kids they have in the wings and hope they hold onto most of them.

    I’m also VERY happy they chose not to spend gazillions on corner outfielders they didn’t need, like some here would have had them do.

  125. GreenBeret7 December 26th, 2010 at 12:25 pm

    NYYs will sign on two cheap reclaimation projects to add a few cheap wins and innings to get through the first month or so until the farm kids are ready. Once the arbitration figures are exchanged, there will be a few more pitchers cut loose or put on the trading block.

  126. randy l. December 26th, 2010 at 12:27 pm

    mtu-

    ever think of taking up kayaking ?

  127. austinmac December 26th, 2010 at 12:28 pm

    Mick,

    There are no decent remaining free agent starters, but only injury risks. They could and should use free agency for the pen. Webb, Francis and the like are as risky as Nova.

    I maintain a starter will have to come via trade, and it will hurt.

  128. mick December 26th, 2010 at 12:28 pm

    I hope Pettitte returns, but news reports indicate he likely will not.
    =========================================
    News reports? You believe news reports? Why wouldn’t he return? He does this every, single year.
    He has leverage and will get another good contract. Who turns down millions of dollars? Don’t say Lee, as he will go for another contract in 5 years, now that he turned down our 7 year offer and possibly make more money than he would have with us.

  129. YankeesNmore December 26th, 2010 at 12:28 pm

    QUOTE: “It is when people on this board act as if the rotation is acceptable that I must respond. Do they have time to act? Of course. My point is simply this: they have no choice.”

    EXACTLY right. Most people seem to have forgotten just how poorly this team performed down the stretch… From the end of July on, this was a .500 TEAM! That’s 2 1/2 MONTHS of mediocre AT BEST baseball.

    That’s not a fluke. This team needs a HELL of a lot more than minor tweaks and small pieces… Sadly, those facts are lost on most people, including a worthless piece of $#!t general manager!

  130. joeman December 26th, 2010 at 12:28 pm

    BREAKING: The Eagles and Vikings game has been postponed until Tuesday at 8 p.m. ET.

  131. Fran the original December 26th, 2010 at 12:30 pm

    The Eagles and Vikings game has been postponed until Tuesday at 8 p.m. ET.
    **************************
    Wow, that gives the Eagles a short week to get ready for their next game.

    GB,
    Hope you had a good holiday.

  132. joeman December 26th, 2010 at 12:30 pm

    # GreenBeret7 December 26th, 2010 at 12:25 pm

    NYYs will sign on two cheap reclaimation projects to add a few cheap wins and innings to get through the first month or so until the farm kids are ready. Once the arbitration figures are exchanged, there will be a few more pitchers cut loose or put on the trading block.
    ———————————————-
    any idea who these SP might be

  133. Betsy December 26th, 2010 at 12:32 pm

    Well, not one of my smarter moves. Jericho TPK was fine because cars keep travelling on it, but the other roads were not – plus, visibility was extremely limited. People are such idiots – instead of giving themselves room to manuever, they kept right on top of me – less than 2 car lengths. I’m just glad I made it home.

  134. joeman December 26th, 2010 at 12:33 pm

    ..BLIZZARD WARNING IN EFFECT UNTIL 5 PM EST MONDAY…
    …WINTER STORM WARNING IS CANCELLED…

    THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN ALBANY HAS ISSUED A BLIZZARD
    WARNING…WHICH IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 5 PM EST MONDAY.

    * LOCATIONS: LITCHFIELD COUNTY IN CONNECTICUT AND DUTCHESS COUNTY
    IN NEW YORK.

    * HAZARDS: HEAVY SNOW AND STRONG WINDS…BLOWING AND DRIFTING OF
    SNOW WITH BLIZZARD CONDITIONS.

    * ACCUMULATIONS: 1 TO 2 FEET OF SNOW.

  135. AldotheApache December 26th, 2010 at 12:35 pm

    West coast nancy / vineyard,

    Final warning – take your obsessions elsewhere. Not interested.

    You’ve tried making lying accusations about me before, when you tried to implicate me in the disclosure of poster’s personal information, and Chad himself cleared that up. So your “ruby and cr9″ accusations are nothing new coming from you.

    So spend your 18-20 hours per day of blog posting by obsessing with someone else. You should know by now that you will never win with me.

  136. 86w183 December 26th, 2010 at 12:35 pm

    Ron —- interesting way to prepare a roast, but doesn’t the soda can explode at some point?

  137. joeman December 26th, 2010 at 12:35 pm

    # Betsy December 26th, 2010 at 12:32 pm

    Well, not one of my smarter moves. Jericho TPK was fine because cars keep travelling on it, but the other roads were not – plus, visibility was extremely limited. People are such idiots – instead of giving themselves room to manuever, they kept right on top of me – less than 2 car lengths. I’m just glad I made it home.
    ———————–====================

    glad you made it home also, so you can read my stuff

  138. mick December 26th, 2010 at 12:36 pm

    Other than Burnett, pitching was not the problem last season. The loss of Andy hurt but CC, Hughes and the pen were good. The hitting was down, due to injuries, not debilitating but nagging ones. I believe Jeter was hurt , as well. Tex, Arod, Gardner and Swisher were hurting. The only difference between what happened to the rs was that their injuries were catastrophic.

  139. Fran the original December 26th, 2010 at 12:37 pm

    Betsy,

    Glad you’re back safely.

  140. mick December 26th, 2010 at 12:37 pm

    People are such idiots – instead of giving themselves room to manuever, they kept right on top of me – less than 2 car lengths
    ======================
    Did they know it was you?

  141. GreenBeret7 December 26th, 2010 at 12:37 pm

    Fran the original December 26th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
    The Eagles and Vikings game has been postponed until Tuesday at 8 p.m. ET.
    **************************
    Wow, that gives the Eagles a short week to get ready for their next game.

    GB,
    Hope you had a good holiday.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Happy Holidays, Fran. Hope you and family had a great day yesterday. Had a great time with the twins yesterday, watching them have their first real Christmas. Thank you for asking. They enjoyed the boxes and paper the most. It would have been a lot cheaper that way. Took a lot of great videos and pix of them. It will make a lot of great viewing once I get them loaded onto DVDs.

  142. West Coast Yankee Fan December 26th, 2010 at 12:37 pm

    I am glad Jake Gibbs got an award named for him. Who knew?

  143. 86w183 December 26th, 2010 at 12:39 pm

    Looking downtown from my window on the 37th floor of the Marriott Marquis. Can see maybe 10 blocks south, can no longer see the Hudson, but am reasonably certain it’s still there

  144. Vineyard Yankee December 26th, 2010 at 12:39 pm

    MTU:

    Very quiet and calm, thanks for asking. The kids get older and I think it gets a tad easier. I have the picture in my mind of them standing on deck with you in their rain gear complete with the hats that tie under the chin. LOL !

    It is so wet out here now that when there is a slight incline the water seeps out of the ground and runs downhill, a really heavy rain last nite. My ‘guys’ are doing well, its just tough every time we walk, the young male pup now jumps into the creek which is really swollen with rain runoff. I’m thinking about putting in a outdoor warm shower for them to make the cleanup easier when we come home everyday.

    I’m working on the pictures and the site you suggested, next week I should have some extra time to finish it.

  145. MTU December 26th, 2010 at 12:39 pm

    Randy-

    It would seem to make sense.

    Hope you had a great Holiday despite being surrounded by all those Sux fans.

  146. Vineyard Yankee December 26th, 2010 at 12:41 pm

    OMG….’final warning’. OK imp. LMAO ! LMAO ! LMAO !

  147. mick December 26th, 2010 at 12:42 pm

    Our starting pitching was better than the rs.
    Why will Beckett and Lackey and Dice K bounce back this year?
    They have logged a lot of innings and have long expensive contracts.
    Why cant people see they made moves out of desperation? We haven’t.

  148. YankeesNmore December 26th, 2010 at 12:44 pm

    QUOTING MICK: “Other than Burnett, pitching was not the problem last season. The loss of Andy hurt but CC, Hughes and the pen were good.”

    REALLY??? Phil Hughes pitched to a 4.90 ERA in the second half last season. You consider that “good”??? REALLY???!!!

  149. Fran the original December 26th, 2010 at 12:45 pm

    GB,

    Glad you guys enjoyed. Amazing that you can spend so much money on gifts, and the boxes are what they are most interested in :)
    Here in the middle of a blizzard with rest of the Northeast LoHudders. At least there are some good football games to watch today.

  150. mick December 26th, 2010 at 12:45 pm

    Some people love to worry and suffer.
    We are one or two moves away from being whole.
    There is relief help out there and I do believe Andy’s coming back.
    If our worst spot is 5th starter and 4th OF , I bet a lot of teams would like to be in our position.

  151. Betsy December 26th, 2010 at 12:46 pm

    Fran, thanks……….me too, lol. I’ve got everything I need, so if we’re locked in for a couple of days, I won’t starve, lol

  152. YankeesNmore December 26th, 2010 at 12:46 pm

    QUOTING MICK: “Our starting pitching was better than the rs.”

    That’s just delusional. CC compares favorably with either Lester, but the Yankees don’t have a #2 starter with a LIGHTYEAR of Buchholz.

  153. Doreen December 26th, 2010 at 12:47 pm

    Guess we’re digging out the old-fashioned way….

    :(

  154. mick December 26th, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    REALLY??? Phil Hughes pitched to a 4.90 ERA in the second half last season. You consider that “good”??? REALLY???!!!
    =======================
    Good enough to win.
    They hit for him for some reason.
    Maybe he pitched to the scoreboard like CC does.
    They should hit a lot better this year when healthy.

  155. mick December 26th, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    Let’s see Buccholz do it again.

  156. YankeesNmore December 26th, 2010 at 12:50 pm

    Mick, the Yankees were a .500 team from throughout August, September and the playoffs last year… That’s not an accident.

    You’re in denial, which is fine… I expect blind homers to be in denial… What’s truly pathetic is that our current GM seems to be in denial, as well.

  157. GreenBeret7 December 26th, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    Fran, sometimes little ones like the twins make adults realize what’s important doesn’t depend on cost and what Christmas really means. They’re just a little over a year old but they spent half of the morning stacking the small boxes and taking turns knocking them over and hiding in the big boxes.

  158. YankeesNmore December 26th, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    QUOTING MICK: “Let’s see Buccholz do it again.”

    Let’s see Phil Hughes do it ONCE! You gotta be kidding me with this bull$#!t. You poke holes in a guy who was nothing short of spectacular throughout an entire season last year, then make excuses for every single problem the Yankees had.

    OPEN YOUR EYES!

  159. mick December 26th, 2010 at 12:54 pm

    So where is the problem?
    You have 8 position players, DH’s…is the hitting the porblem?
    Who would you deal?
    If we got Lee, all our problems are solved?
    I doubt Lilly and Haren were the answers.
    Wood didn’t want us.
    Why is this Cash’s fault?

  160. joeman December 26th, 2010 at 12:54 pm

    if you ask me Phil & Clay are about even and probably remain that way

  161. YankeesNmore December 26th, 2010 at 12:55 pm

    So where is the problem??? So where is the problem???

    The problem is the Yankees have ONE STARTER they can count on… ONE!

  162. AldotheApache December 26th, 2010 at 12:55 pm

    YankeesNmore December 26th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
    … the Yankees don’t have a #2 starter with a LIGHTYEAR of Buchholz.

    ——————————————————

    OK, if you insist -

    Buchholz 17-7 in ’10, 29-21 over 3+ seasons, age 26

    Hughes 18-8 in ’10, 31-18 over 3+ seasons, age 24

  163. mick December 26th, 2010 at 12:56 pm

    AJ has to bounce back and be the #2 starter IMO.
    Andy and Phil are 3-4.

  164. Fran the original December 26th, 2010 at 12:56 pm

    GB, so true.

    OK. Time to watch the Jet game. Catch you all later.

  165. joeman December 26th, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    # mick December 26th, 2010 at 12:56 pm

    AJ has to bounce back and be the #2 starter IMO.
    Andy and Phil are 3-4.
    ————————
    mick…talk Andy if he signs, at this point nothing says he will

  166. YankeesNmore December 26th, 2010 at 12:58 pm

    You guys gotte be kidding!

    RECORD??? I guess Felix Hernandez must REALLY suck… He was only 13-12 last year! Why, I wonder, did you leave out the ERA???

    Buchholz 2010 ERA – 2.33
    Hughes 2010 ERA – 4.19

    Maybe that’s why.

  167. mick December 26th, 2010 at 12:58 pm

    OK all bridgejumpers get together and have a nice flight into the abyss.
    Time to enjoy some football.

  168. MaineYankee December 26th, 2010 at 1:00 pm

    GB7

    When my kids were little, before all these toys that do everything for the kids, my kids used to play with the pots and pans in the cupboard. The only downside was all the noise. :lol:

  169. austinmac December 26th, 2010 at 1:00 pm

    Mick,

    You derided by belief in news articles about Pettitte retiring. Your basis to believe he will come back is your belief. Excuse me if I don’t find that authoritative.

    I have been fan longer than most have been alive. I know a poor starting staff when I see one. Right now, that’s what they have now. They can skip the fifth starter on some occasions in April. They can’t skip the fourth nor can they skip the fifth in May.

    They had a very poor second half, largely due to starting pitching. It is no better. I wish it were otherwise. Again, no panic is needed, but action is required.

  170. West Coast Yankee Fan December 26th, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    I wonder when some fans are going to realize that winds and losses are not always indicative of a pitchers performance or ability. I think a certain Cy Young award winner who was 13-12 last year is a pretty good good example of that.

  171. GreenBeret7 December 26th, 2010 at 1:06 pm

    MaineYankee December 26th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
    GB7

    When my kids were little, before all these toys that do everything for the kids, my kids used to play with the pots and pans in the cupboard. The only downside was all the noise.

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    Yep….I get that, too. That’s why I use the microwave. all they can beat on is plastic. never realized how much noise two little one year olds could make. It’s when they are quiet that they scare me. They’re either into something or making plans to steal the car and go get ice cream and pizza.

  172. 86w183 December 26th, 2010 at 1:11 pm

    Hughes career 31-18, 4.20 career. Buchholz 29-21, 3.68

    Hughes is almost two years younger

    At this stage I’d say they are comparable, but arguing last season was comparable is a stretch, Buchholz was clearly better.

  173. MaineYankee December 26th, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    GB7

    When my daughter was little we used cloth diapers. When she was quiet it usually meant she was emptying the diaper pail onto the floor. One diaper at a time. :lol:

  174. MaineYankee December 26th, 2010 at 1:19 pm

    but arguing

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    Is a wasted exercise.

  175. 86w183 December 26th, 2010 at 1:19 pm

    Of course since we’re comparing ERAs and such….

    The last three years AJ Burnett has a similar ERA to Josh Beckett (4.42 to 4.39) and was better than him last year (5.26 to 5.78).

    Over those three years AJ has thrown 100 more innings.

    It’s safe to give the Yanks the edge there, I would say.

  176. GreenBeret7 December 26th, 2010 at 1:20 pm

    MaineYankee December 26th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
    GB7

    When my daughter was little we used cloth diapers. When she was quiet it usually meant she was emptying the diaper pail onto the floor. One diaper at a time.

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    Please….I’m trying to eat. LMAO

  177. Vineyard Yankee December 26th, 2010 at 1:23 pm

    mick December 26th, 2010 at 12:45 pm

    We are one or two moves away from being whole.
    There is relief help out there and I do believe Andy’s coming back.
    If our worst spot is 5th starter and 4th OF , I bet a lot of teams would like to be in our position.

    ===============

    Mick:

    I don’t think Pettitte is coming back. RP’s are out there so…….what is Cashman waiting for, he has that money that was earmarked for Lee to use. Cashman has done next to nothing this year except reduce the payroll and sign Martin and Prior. If he ends up doing nothing else this winter we are in trouble.

  178. Doreen December 26th, 2010 at 1:24 pm

    They played .500 ball because more than half of the team was playing injured. Their best to second best pitcher was out from early August on.

    Tough to dominate that way.

    When they were healthy, they were dominating. Even with Jeter/ARod/Tex having off years.

    Instead of being happy the got to within 2 wins of the WS, however they got there, I guess an awful lot of people would rather focus on the negative.

  179. MaineYankee December 26th, 2010 at 1:26 pm

    GB7

    You mean to tell me you’re squeamish? :lol:

    You wouldn’t have done well with the conversation around the dinner table of a farm family.

  180. Jerkface December 26th, 2010 at 1:28 pm

    At this stage I’d say they are comparable, but arguing last season was comparable is a stretch, Buchholz was clearly better.

    xFIP 4.20 for Buchholz vs 4.33 for Hughes

    Buchholz k:bb = 1.79 , Hughes = 2.52

    Without any meaningful change in his K rate, amount of line drives / flyballs given up, or patience statistics (swings outside of zone,inside of zone, etc) Buchholz gave up 10% less HRs than he did the previous two seasons.

    His great ERA was built almost entirely on being incredibly lucky.

    Its why nearly every projection system has Hughes and Buchholz pitching a similar season next year. And why I would bet his ERA is over 3 rather than under it next year.

  181. randy l. December 26th, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    “I think a certain Cy Young award winner who was 13-12 last year is a pretty good good example of that.”

    i wonder if pitchers like greinke are going to start pitching to the sabermetric stats that win cy young awards now rather than pitch to win.

    give me a pitcher that pitches to win any day.

  182. MaineYankee December 26th, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    randy

    Afternoon.

    I hope you got enough coal yesterday to keep you warm this winter.

  183. MaineYankee December 26th, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    randy l. December 26th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
    “I think a certain Cy Young award winner who was 13-12 last year is a pretty good good example of that.”

    i wonder if pitchers like greinke are going to start pitching to the sabermetric stats that win cy young awards now rather than pitch to win.

    give me a pitcher that pitches to win any day
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    That’s why it isn’t worth getting all bothered when a Yankee doesn’t win some of these awards. It’s more about the end result for the team not the individual.

  184. Doreen December 26th, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    GB7 -

    My parents were watching one of those criminal shows – SVU or something like that – and they had four guest actresses. Jaclyn Smith, Morgan Fairchild, Susan Anton and Ann Margret. Ann and Jaclyn had the bigger roles, and Ann Margrets was the meatiest. But they had her made up like Bette Davis in “Whatever Happened to Baby Jane.” (It fit the character, but I could have done without seeing her look like that.)

    All four actress were afflicted with this strange condition – they couldn’t move their upper mouths and as a result, they couldn’t even say certain words. Hope it’s not contagious. ;)

  185. 86w183 December 26th, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    Jack Morris isn’t in the Hall of Fame because of the obsession over ERA which is a mistaken way to view all starting pitchers.

    Give Morris a 6-0 lead and he’d give up three runs in the 7th, 8th and 9th, get the win and save the bullpen. He didn’t give a crap about ERA and it’s costing him. He was a far better pitcher than Don Sutton, Phil Niekro and Gaylord Perry….

    Then again so too were Jim Kaat, Bert Blyleven and Tommy John……. and Mike Mussina and Andy Pettite too.

    Fortunately I have no idea what the hell xFIP is, but I do agree that Buchholz is unlikely to match this past season in terms of ERA.

    We won’t know the likely 25-man roster til sometime in March. why the rush to grade Cashman now. Just because they budgeted big money on a starter they didn’t get doesn’t mean they should use that money to give closer dollars to a set up man.

  186. West Coast Yankee Fan December 26th, 2010 at 1:40 pm

    Randy l. December 26th, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    “I think a certain Cy Young award winner who was 13-12 last year is a pretty good good example of that.”

    i wonder if pitchers like greinke are going to start pitching to the sabermetric stats that win cy young awards now rather than pitch to win. give me a pitcher that pitches to win any day.

    **********

    King Felix was not awarded the Cy Youndg because of sabermetrics. Not even close. Start with K’s and ERA and go from there.

  187. YankeesNmore December 26th, 2010 at 1:41 pm

    Hey Doreen, their “best to second pitcher” looks like he won’t be pitching this year, either.

  188. West Coast Yankee Fan December 26th, 2010 at 1:41 pm

    sp-Cy Young

  189. MaineYankee December 26th, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    Doreen

    When you mentioned Ann Margrets name it made me think of the movie Grumpy Old Men. I’m trying to guess witch one he was in the movie. Probably more like the father actually. :lol:

  190. Doreen December 26th, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    YankeesNMore-

    I haven’t expected Pettitte to come back and I would be happily surprised if he does.

    But I have a lot more patience than a lot of people here. I think a lot of Yankees fans give other teams the benefit of the doubt a whole lot more than they give it to the very team they are supposed to be rooting for.

    The off-season isn’t over. And the season isn’t won or lost on paper.

    And if they don’t win next year, it won’t be fun, but life will go on.

  191. GreenBeret7 December 26th, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    MaineYankee December 26th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
    GB7

    You mean to tell me you’re squeamish?

    You wouldn’t have done well with the conversation around the dinner table of a farm family.

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    I had no problems patching up head wounds or belly wounds, but, I can’t deal with changing a messy diaper. Turns my stomach.

  192. MaineYankee December 26th, 2010 at 1:45 pm

    which not witch.

    GB7 wouldn’t like me calling her a witch.

  193. Doreen December 26th, 2010 at 1:46 pm

    Maine Yankee -

    LOL!

  194. MaineYankee December 26th, 2010 at 1:49 pm

    GB7

    Watching a vet operate on a cow, no problem.

    Sticthing up a gash on my daughters head, different story. :lol:

  195. MaineYankee December 26th, 2010 at 1:50 pm

    Doreen

    Can’t you see that comparison? :lol:

  196. GreenBeret7 December 26th, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    Doreen December 26th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
    GB7 -

    My parents were watching one of those criminal shows – SVU or something like that – and they had four guest actresses. Jaclyn Smith, Morgan Fairchild, Susan Anton and Ann Margret. Ann and Jaclyn had the bigger roles, and Ann Margrets was the meatiest. But they had her made up like Bette Davis in “Whatever Happened to Baby Jane.” (It fit the character, but I could have done without seeing her look like that.)

    All four actress were afflicted with this strange condition – they couldn’t move their upper mouths and as a result, they couldn’t even say certain words. Hope it’s not contagious.

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    4 beauties of the 70s and 80s. And Susan Anton is the dog of the bunch because she’s only gorgeous. The others are drop dead gorgeous. I’d like to have seen that show.

  197. GreenBeret7 December 26th, 2010 at 1:56 pm

    MaineYankee December 26th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
    Doreen

    Can’t you see that comparison?

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    I’m making a list and checking it twice. I’m also going to be nice because of the holidays. Just a warning. 2 January is next week. I’d hate to be you.

  198. MaineYankee December 26th, 2010 at 1:59 pm

    GB7

    I’m safe till summer because you might get too cold up here this time of year. :lol:

  199. RS December 26th, 2010 at 2:02 pm

    I wonder if the people claiming Buchholz is so much better than Hughes were the same people who insisted Dice-K was an ACE and Pettitte was nothing better than a #4/#5 starter?? Since, you know, one season’s ERA is worth everything and peripherals and tracks records are meaningless.

  200. West Coast Yankee Fan December 26th, 2010 at 2:05 pm

    Being a huge dog lover and given all the negativity surrounding pro-athletes these days, I thought this was a really heart-warming story.

    “A dog found wandering in the St. Louis area with an arrow sticking from her abdomen has a new home, thanks to the generosity of star Sox pitcher Mark Buehrle. Buehrle, who lives in St. Charles, Mo., volunteered to pay the veterinary bills of Shelby, the stricken Sheltie, after media reports of the pooch’s plight. The bill was almost $3,000″.

    Seeing Mark Buehrle in a different light now.


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