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And, we’re back

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 27, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Not sure what happened to the blog last night. Everything was fine, then I went to see my friends’ newborn be baptized, and when I got home there was nothing. Couldn’t see the blog. Couldn’t login to the blog. Couldn’t write on the blog.

I’m guessing the insane weather back in New York had something to do with it.

Anyway, we appear to be back up and running. As you might expect, Sunday wasn’t the worst day for the blog to go missing. J.C. Romero re-signed with the Phillies, and the Rangers decided to take a shot on Brandon Webb. Otherwise, it was a pretty quiet day.

I’m actually on vacation for the next week, and the blog will be in the hands of our friend Brian Heyman. I will see you all in the new year. Enjoy the last few days of 2010, and those of you back in New York, stay warm and be careful.





316 Responses to “And, we’re back”

  1. MaineYankee December 27th, 2010 at 9:17 am


    Thanks for ignoring the rest of your blog fanbase. :lol:

    As if New York is such a great place. :lol:

  2. MTU December 27th, 2010 at 9:19 am

    Have a good vacation Chad.

    And a Happy New Year.

  3. blake December 27th, 2010 at 9:21 am


    Answered in prev thread

  4. blake December 27th, 2010 at 9:27 am


    We’ll see on Soriano…you’re probably right but I think they should think about it.

    Re Damon: I actually think the Yanks would probably be willing to pay much or more than anyone else but the playing time is what will probably decide it for him. If he still thinks he can get to 3,000 hits then he may sign elsewhere to get more ABs….

  5. Vineyard Yankee December 27th, 2010 at 9:32 am

    The blog was kaput everywhere I guess, even on the West Coast.

  6. Vineyard Yankee December 27th, 2010 at 9:36 am


    You ever wonder what is taking Cashman so long to make a couple of moves to shore up the pen ? I sure do. It seems to go on and on and on, day after day with no movement despite there being several RP’s on the market that could make our pen very tough. Having $ 160 million set aside for Lee and now nothing.

  7. Fran the original December 27th, 2010 at 9:37 am

    Good morning. Looking out on about 18-20 inches of snow. Digging out is not going to be easy.

  8. 86w183 December 27th, 2010 at 9:40 am

    Wind chill around zero today, but it beats trying to get around in a blizzard.

    Met Donnie Osmond in the hotel elevator yesterday not that many will care. Very pleasant guy, considering our visit lasted from the 37th floor to the 4th!

  9. blake December 27th, 2010 at 9:41 am


    I want to believe they are waiting because they are considering Soriano and are waiting to.see where the market goes with him…..but other than that im just not sure. I think at this point they do need to operate and make moves as if Andy isn’t coming back. If he up and decides he wants to pitch then that’s all he better and the Yanks should have no problem fitting his salary in for one year.

  10. blake December 27th, 2010 at 9:44 am

    If Pettite does retire then that’s about 35 million dollars that the Yankees probably originally budgeted for (Lee and Pettite) that wont be on the books for 2011……

  11. 108 stitches December 27th, 2010 at 9:48 am

    No surprise that the Scott Boras clients of Beltre, Soriano, and Damon are unsigned. Boras will always try to squeeze water out of a dry towel.

  12. Bronx Jeers December 27th, 2010 at 9:48 am

    NYC is about as shut down as it gets but today is a pretty god day for it.

    If you have to shovel my advice would be do it soon as the snow is very powdery/light.

  13. disco stu December 27th, 2010 at 9:48 am

    I think the fact that the Yankees did not move quickly to replace Kerry Wood after he signed with the Cubs may be an indication that they are waiting for the price to drop on Rafael Soriano.

    Even if means still paying closer’s money, it would be such a security blanket to have him as our 8th innning setup man. First off, Mo is not getting any younger and despite his continued dominance, will be 41 next year. Soriano affords the Yankees of never having to overuse Mo during the regular season and if need be, they have the best possible “in house” option available if he ever went on the DL.

    In a short series, Soriano to Mo would be a great formula for success.

  14. Vineyard Yankee December 27th, 2010 at 9:49 am


    To me after losing out on Lee it is very frustrating sitting and waiting for something to happen. IMO, any combination of Fuentes, Balfour, Soriano or Rauch (2) in no particular order would be great. Taking two salaries out of what once was the Lee money would be a drop in the bucket. As an example Fuentes and Rauch would be what, say $ 10 million a year or a smidge less ?

  15. Rich in NJ December 27th, 2010 at 9:52 am

    To me, Soriano isn’t about the money, it’s about the pick.

  16. Vineyard Yankee December 27th, 2010 at 9:53 am

    East Coast shovels snow, West Coast bails water and lays out sand bags. What fun as we head towards the new year with only Martin and Prior left under the tree.

  17. blake December 27th, 2010 at 9:53 am


    Agree 100%. Mo is the best but they need to keep him healthy. Adding Soriano would mean no 2 innings or 4 out saves for Rivera and it would take a lot of pressure off him. They will certainly have to overpay to get him but it may be the best remaining way to improve the team at this point….

  18. blake December 27th, 2010 at 9:55 am


    The pick does hurt….especially with the draft this year and the fact that Tampa would get the pick. You certainly don’t give up that pick for Balfour but Id consider it for Soriano…..just another thing to weigh in the decision making.

  19. 86w183 December 27th, 2010 at 10:00 am

    Can’t seem them going for Fuentes as a third lefty to go with Logan and Feliciano.

    I also don’t believe draft pick compensation would get in the way of signing Soriano, but the guy is unlikely to want to be a set up guy, even for Mariano the Great.

    Rausch or Gregg seems more likely to me and would be positive additions.

    I still say they should find out the price tag on Fausto Carmona. He’s only 27 years old, he had a very good year (13-14 210 1/3 innings, 3.77 ERA) and is signed to a team-friendly contract.

    He wouldn’t come cheap in terms of talent, but Cleveland is going nowhere and you might as well give it a shot. Who is better that might be available???

  20. 108 stitches December 27th, 2010 at 10:01 am

    blake December 27th, 2010 at 9:44 am
    If Pettite does retire then that’s about 35 million dollars that the Yankees probably originally budgeted for (Lee and Pettite) that wont be on the books for 2011……


    If Pettitte retires then it’s not logical to have just C.C. as the lone LH in the starting rotation. Not in the AL East anyway.
    Get LHSP Wandy Rodriquez and Jeff Keppinger from Houston for a reasonable package that doesn’t include Montero, Banuelos, Phelps, Betances, Mitchell, or Sanchez.

  21. tyanksfan36 December 27th, 2010 at 10:02 am

    Yeah I couldn’t get on the blog last night either but I accomplished a lot so I shouldn’t complain. Shoveling snow sounds fun though that comes from a naïve floridian who’s never seen snow.

  22. randy l. December 27th, 2010 at 10:03 am

    “Thanks for ignoring the rest of your blog fanbase.”

    how’s that “Noreastah” up there in maine?

    we had 80mph winds last night

    i heard cashman started out a couple of young kids shoveling out his driveway in his stamford,ct home. they were only 8, but he gave them $5 and saved a lot. cashman said the free agent snowplow guy wanted $100 and that by 4th of july, who’s going to know the difference ?

    it is just a malicious rumor started by a tweeting red sox nation neighbor that one prize lefty little shoveler blew out his rotator cuff by shoveling too much too fast when cashman rushed him so he could get out to go starbucks for his morning latte.

  23. icebird753 December 27th, 2010 at 10:06 am

    Looks like the US government tried to shut down this blog too; the writing must have been too damn good.

  24. blake December 27th, 2010 at 10:06 am


    But the 8 year olds have upside and wouldn’t cost draft picks ;)

  25. 108 stitches December 27th, 2010 at 10:08 am

    Just 51 days until pitchers and catchers report to Tampa. Cashman doesn’t have to wait for arbitration proceedings to go after a RH for the bullpen like Jon Rauch for example.
    If the starting rotation isn’t improved from last season, then the bullpen needs to be fortified to be a strong point.

  26. randy l. December 27th, 2010 at 10:15 am

    “But the 8 year olds have upside and wouldn’t cost draft picks ”


    not only that, cashman kept them from shoveling the red sox fan’s driveway next door, and forced them to go with the high priced plow guy.

  27. SAS December 27th, 2010 at 10:15 am

    Good morning,

    Please, please be careful as you shovel out. My next door neighbor died at 48 shoveling snow so he could get to work on time.

  28. Fran the original December 27th, 2010 at 10:20 am

    Hi SAS,

    Glad you are enjoying the warm weather. The crazy thing is the temperatures are suppposed to get up near 50 by the end of the week.

  29. Rich in NJ December 27th, 2010 at 10:20 am

    My landscaper plows.

  30. randy l. December 27th, 2010 at 10:24 am

    “To me, Soriano isn’t about the money, it’s about the pick.”

    as an aside, i find it very difficult to believe that tampa bay can get all these draft picks from losing players and still compete for the wild card.

  31. Rich in NJ December 27th, 2010 at 10:26 am

    Two things, randy.

    One, they still have a very good rotation.

    Two, even if they take a step back this year, they have drafted very well, so they can use some of their top prospects, or more probably, guys like Garza who are becoming more highly paid, and make trades that can fill holes on the ML level.

  32. Doreen December 27th, 2010 at 10:30 am

    86w183 -

    You met Donnie Osmond???!!!???

    I would have been tongue-tied for sure. The only time I watched Dancing with the Stars was when he was on. :)

  33. blake December 27th, 2010 at 10:30 am

    I think Tampa will struggle to compete for a playoff spot in 2011 mainly because they have nearly lost their entire bullpen in addition to Crawford and Pena…..their rotation is very strong though and they have aligned themselves to be competitve longterm against teams that spend a lot more money. They may do the draft and development thing better than anyone right now.

  34. randy l. December 27th, 2010 at 10:31 am

    “My landscaper plows.”

    so you don’t touch grass or dirt or snow?

    rich, we gotta get you off those data bases so you can smell the roses :)

  35. Doreen December 27th, 2010 at 10:32 am

    Back in from shoveling. My husband’s finishing up the last bit. It was both exhilarating and exhausting. The only thing that hurts right now is my left forearm. I sure wish I was ambidextrous!

  36. blake December 27th, 2010 at 10:33 am

    One thing that really helps the Rays is that absurd contract that Longoria agreed to.

  37. Pauldanand December 27th, 2010 at 10:34 am

    When the bear wakes up from hibernating… he stretches and yawns and takes a peek out the mouth of the cave. Then he signs on to Lohud and checks out the Yankee’s Hot Stove decisions.
    I’m thinking he might as well go back to bed. Somebody tell the groundhog not to bother either.

  38. Doreen December 27th, 2010 at 10:34 am

    Randy l -

    I just read your post about the 8-year-old shovelers. Classic. :)

  39. Rich in NJ December 27th, 2010 at 10:36 am


    You want me to end up dead like SAS’s neighbor?

    I put mulch down every year, which usually takes a few days.

    Also, I have a lot of trees, and when the wind blows and there isn’t snow, I pick up all the branches and sticks, which can often fill up three garbage cans.

  40. NYY626 - Andy in 2011 December 27th, 2010 at 10:37 am

    Good Morning All

    2 feet of snow exactly in my area. 2 Feet!!! Gunna have some coffee and then shovel until my arm falls off :/

    Stay warm everybody :)

  41. randy l. December 27th, 2010 at 10:44 am

    “Two, even if they take a step back this year, they have drafted very well, so they can use some of their top prospects, or more probably, guys like Garza who are becoming more highly paid, and make trades that can fill holes on the ML level.”

    rich in nj-

    i just looked up jeremy hellickson’s minor league stats and see a pitcher totally ready for the majors.

    he’s had 300 innings at double a and triple a. tampa bay having the luxury of developing a guy like hellickson the right way is a huge plus.

    when have the yankees ever left a guy at triple a this long when he was this good?……llic001jer

  42. Erica in NY December 27th, 2010 at 10:48 am

    86w183 December 27th, 2010 at 9:40 am
    Wind chill around zero today, but it beats trying to get around in a blizzard.

    Met Donnie Osmond in the hotel elevator yesterday not that many will care. Very pleasant guy, considering our visit lasted from the 37th floor to the 4th!


    You met Donnie Osmond?!?!

    And they called it puppy love………………

  43. MaineYankee December 27th, 2010 at 10:50 am


    Glad to see you didn’t blow off that toe in the ocean they call the cape. :lol:

    Just a normal winter day here in Maine.

    It sounds like our friends to the south got more snow than we are.

    It is hard to tell the amount though because of the drifting.

  44. Rich in NJ December 27th, 2010 at 10:51 am


    As I have said, Cash has not been consistent in his approach to mL development and then providing sufficient patience at the ML level so that a young player can surmount a learning curve. His compromise has been to put kids like Hughes and Joba in the pen, and that has been suboptimal to their development.

    Now, some will counter that the Yankees have to win the WS every single year so they can afford to be patient, but to me that’s a lame excuse, and it’s Cashman’s job to convince ownership that patience is necessary to be able to win WS in most seasons, rather then just make the playoffs because of their payroll.

    Otherwise, you are the the mercy of the Cliff Lees of the world, and there aren’t many of them anyway.

    But Cash has to get credit for assembling a lot of mL talent.

    Now it’s time to integrate them in the ML and not trade them away, at least not many of them, and not the best ones.

    As I have said, what happens over the next two years will reveal a lot about the job Cash has done.

  45. Rich in NJ December 27th, 2010 at 10:52 am

    *can’t afford to be patient*

  46. blake December 27th, 2010 at 10:58 am

    What will be interesting to see is if the Rays can sustain this level of competitveness while not drafting as high…..or if they’ll eventually have to go through another period of being bad once all these players they have devloped leave…..we just saw the first wave of it with Crawford.

  47. 108 stitches December 27th, 2010 at 10:59 am

    The Rays have a nice developmental model but I’d bet that within 5 years the team will leave the Tampa-St. Pete area for more fertile ground with fan response unless they get a new stadium which doesn’t seem likely. Moving to Charlotte wouldn’t be a surprise. By then a new Commissioner will be in place with different thoughts than Selig.

  48. randy l. December 27th, 2010 at 11:06 am

    “Just a normal winter day here in Maine.”

    maine yankee-

    you might get a laugh out of this photo:

  49. West Coast Yankee Fan December 27th, 2010 at 11:08 am

    Worrying about a draft pick given the state of our pitching right now makes no sense to me. If you can sign a quality arm like Soriano you do so. I too believe the Yankees are waiting on a rice drop, or perhaps Soriano doesn’t want to come here in the role we have envisioned for him.
    But a draft pick as an obstacle?

  50. Tar December 27th, 2010 at 11:10 am

    “he’s had 300 innings at double a and triple a. tampa bay having the luxury of developing a guy like hellickson the right way is a huge plus.

    when have the yankees ever left a guy at triple a this long when he was this good”

    The right way? More like keep him off the clock. He was ready way, before they called him up.

  51. tyanksfan36 December 27th, 2010 at 11:12 am

    There’s a lot of legal issues holding up the Rays in St. Pete. I can’t see them moving unless something happens to the stadium.
    Speaking of… I’m about 30 dollars to my goal of getting Lower Infield Box seats(rows M-Q) for the Yankees vs. Rays in tampa on my birthday in May. I’m going to be real close, ill make a sign too, maybe ill end up shown on TV.

  52. Betsy December 27th, 2010 at 11:13 am

    Well, I’m stuck in – no work today – so that’s a good thing, lol.

    Yanks should have taken a chance on Brandon Webb……

  53. blake December 27th, 2010 at 11:15 am

    I wish they’d move to Charlotte.

    Soriano is a player that IMO you risk losing a draft pick (that if they pan out at all wont be able to help the team for.several years anyway) for. The price and years it’ll take to make him accept a set up role (if he would) would be the deciding factor I would think. The Yanks business model has always been to go with what can help now.over what could help 5 years from now…..their revenue streams allow them that luxury.

  54. Jerkface December 27th, 2010 at 11:16 am

    i just looked up jeremy hellickson’s minor league stats and see a pitcher totally ready for the majors.

    he’s had 300 innings at double a and triple a. tampa bay having the luxury of developing a guy like hellickson the right way is a huge plus.

    when have the yankees ever left a guy at triple a this long when he was this good?

    On the other hand, they rocketed David Price through the minor league system. James Shields who threw 60 innings at AAA. And your point on Hellickson is a little off. He never pitched a full single season in either AA or AAA. He pitched a half season in AA, got kicked up to AAA for the second half. Spent the first half in AAA then got kicked to the majors.
    Where is the learning time there???

    Performance dictates promotion. There are plenty of guys in the Yankee system who spent last year in AAA and might spend this year in AAA as well, and it has happened before. Those would be the equivalent of guys like Wade Davis and Jeff Niemenn and Hellickson. Guys who either get 2nd half promotions to AAA and then spend 1 more season at that level instead of breaking with the big club.

    The Rays were no more patient with their pitchers than the Yankees.

  55. dc in el cerrito December 27th, 2010 at 11:18 am


    Cool photo of you from Santa Cruz, I go there all the time.

  56. Betsy December 27th, 2010 at 11:18 am

    Rich, I would have sent Phil back to AAA when Wang returned………….being in the pen did some good things for him, but it also set him back.

  57. MaineYankee December 27th, 2010 at 11:19 am


    Classic picture.

    Not to hard to tell who was doing the most sawing.

    If I ever get so I can put my pictures on the computer I have one of me when I was about 5 with a pair of steers.

    My wife thought that was a cute picture but of course all she could see of you was your back. :lol:

  58. Jerkface December 27th, 2010 at 11:19 am

    Yanks should have taken a chance on Brandon Webb……

    If he received a major league deal from the Rangers there is no way the Yankees should have matched that. He can’t top 85 mph and he had to change his arm slot because his shoulder got destroyed.

  59. Betsy December 27th, 2010 at 11:23 am

    Jerkface, with the position the Yankees are in, they can afford to stop being so darn cheap at this point. I read on another board that, with incentives, the deal can be up to $8 milllion. That means Webb would have to do well to hit that figure – and if he does that well, the Rangers will be glad to pay up. I liked taking a chance on Mark Prior – Prior hasn’t pitched in a dog’s age, but the Yankees were willing to sign him? At this point, with the lousy rotation and with little real chance of improving it, Webb should have been explored.

  60. tyanksfan36 December 27th, 2010 at 11:24 am

    Look at Adam Warren. He was drafted in 2009 and he is already in AA. He pitched in College like David Price so they probably didn’t have to stay at one level for a long time to develop. Hellickson was probably ready at the beginning of 2010 but they didn’t call him up until late. They didn’t really have a spot for him though so that’s why they left him in AAA.

  61. LGY December 27th, 2010 at 11:27 am

    Cashman’s philosophy for a few years now has been to not waste money on middle relievers and it has worked on quite well.

    Unless someone falls into their lap at the end of FA there is not reason to change that.
    Spending money on middle relievers is just not worth it. Cash’s formula has been successful with the pen and there is no reason to change it just because you have some extra money.

  62. randy l. December 27th, 2010 at 11:28 am

    ” it’s Cashman’s job to convince ownership that patience is necessary to be able to win WS in most seasons, rather then just make the playoffs because of their payroll.”

    rich in nj-

    it is an interesting organizational dilemma on how to develop the young talent and when to bring them up.

    the system is set up to penalize the yankees with revenue sharing that allows a tampa bay to make money whether they win or not. and then they give these last place teams( tampa bay at one point) the right to draft first for years at a time.

    i think that the way tampa brought up hellickson is the right way to do it. yes they had the luxury, but even if they didn’t it’s the right way. hellickson is a guy who has learned his craft.

    he’s the opposite of a joba chamberlain who really has not spent the time in the minors learning how to pitch. and yes there is a difference with a high school pick and a college pick. the rays also brought up price in a similar way to joba. the difference was tampa bay let price pitch one year in the majors at about the same rate joba did as a starter and then give him another year after that

    i just think that tampa bay does a much better job developing the prospects they get.

    the yankees need to get the rotation strong so they don’t rush the kids.

  63. LGY December 27th, 2010 at 11:31 am

    There is only 5 spots in the rotation.

    Therefore every starter carries significant opportunity cost.

    To get Webb you basically have to guarantee one of those 5 spots.

    A guy who has not pitched in 2 years and can’t throw harder than 85 is not worth the opportunity cost of wasting time on him and blocking someone else.

    Prior does not compare. He got a minor league deal as a reliever. If Webb would have signed for a minor league deal, sure. Major league deal not worth it.

  64. West Coast Yankee Fan December 27th, 2010 at 11:31 am

    I agree that pitchers determine their level of advancement through the minors based on performance. Everyone is different, in terms of genetics and natural ability, skills, physiology, mental makeup and determination.

    This notion that going slow somehow equates to success is way too generic a statement. Evaluations are and should be done on an individual basis.

  65. Jerkface December 27th, 2010 at 11:33 am

    The 2008 Rays, who went to the WS, had a rotation completely undeveloped at the AAA level.

    Andy Sonnanstine – Jumped almost right from AA to the majors.
    Kazmir – Literally never pitched in AAA
    Shields – see above
    Garza – Spent very little time in AAA, two half seasons
    Edwin Jackson – Called up to the majors from AA, then AAA

    If the Yankees can get 4 solid starters in place, under contract, and expected to pitch 200 innings in a year, then they will have the luxury of allowing guys to sit in AAA a little longer.

    Injuries will always create problems. Unexpected performance fluctuations can create problems. If Vazquez and Burnett don’t crater this season Nova likely never touches the MLB because the Yankees would have just had Mitre / Gaudin fill in when Pettitte got hurt.

    Its unfortunate, but its not like other teams are doing any better. At some point its up to the players to succeed. Look at Clay Buchholz, he was called up with very similar AAA time as Hughes. His crappyness at the major league level forced the Red Sox to send him back down. He got 30 innings at AAA in 2007, STARTED with the red sox in 2008 and sucked, so he got sent back down.

    Hughes never forced that issue with a 6 era.

  66. blake December 27th, 2010 at 11:33 am


    Soriano isn’t a middle reliever though….he’s a second closer and a guy that could take pressure off the 41 year old greatest reliever of all time and help keep him healthy and rested. I agree with Cashman’s philosophy on the rest of the pen but this isn’t exactly the same thing.

  67. MaineYankee December 27th, 2010 at 11:39 am


    When you compare these prospects the one thing you left out is that they aren’t robots.

    Things aren’t equal. The human element plays a big role.

    I’m reading the book about Munson right now and one thing that was said about him was the level of maturity when he came to the big leagues.

    Pro sports are littered with stories of players with talent that never made it.

    You can blame the Yankees all you want for Joba’s failure but you have nothing to back it up except that it is what you think.

    As I’ve seen from the time I’ve been here that perception and reality can be at times not even on the same planet.

  68. mick December 27th, 2010 at 11:40 am

    Job #1 is to get Andy Pettitte.
    The rest will fall in line.
    Snow shoveling, exhilirating? Must have been the light stuff, no such luck here…

  69. West Coast Yankee Fan December 27th, 2010 at 11:41 am

    Soriano, aside from giving us the best eighth inning guy in baseball would also provide the Yankees with a great insurance policy should Mariano (41 years old) get injured at any point in time over the next two years. That’s not a good bet to make, that he will be perfectly healthy for the next two seasons. You want to talk about pitching problems? Think about Joba or Robertson as your closer.

  70. mick December 27th, 2010 at 11:43 am

    Rauch or Fuentes, maybe Gregg is more practical. Forget about Soriano, that’s a pipe dream, a luxury item Cash will not pay for.

  71. randy l. December 27th, 2010 at 11:44 am

    “If I ever get so I can put my pictures on the computer I have one of me when I was about 5 with a pair of steers.”

    maine yankee-

    they did bring up kids a little differently in maine back in the day didn’t they?

    i look back on old photos from back then and realize i may have peaked too soon :)

  72. randy l. December 27th, 2010 at 12:07 pm

    “You can blame the Yankees all you want for Joba’s failure but you have nothing to back it up except that it is what you think.”

    maine yankee-

    i agree that every pitcher is different . david price and joba are emotionally two different pitchers. price is much more mature. but that’s all the reason joba should have been given more time and been brought along more slowly.

    it’s not just physically but also mentally that joba needed more patience. he really got too much too soon. all that fame so fast seemed to tell joba that he didn’t need to work hard.

    i’m not totally in the dark as far as how pitchers are developed. i really did catch a triple a guy one whole winter before he started the mlb all star game that next summer. the time that pitcher spent with the winter team i was with did impact him. it was just a random thing the kid ended up there.

    he was exposed to an amazing array of veteran mlb pitchers and coaches , many of whom took time and worked with the kid . when you are close to the game, you see that it isn’t rocket science developing these kids.

    they are on their own much more than you think. that was a long time ago , but i don’t think huge advances have been made in developing pitchers. rick peterson , tony cloninger, and bruce kison were some of the pitchers and coaches around that kid.

    i do think he got some advice from them that stuck for about 6 months. he was never as good after that as that first half summer.

    coaching matters and it’s elusive. most organizations have a few guys actually coaching so things are more limited than you’d think.

    as much as statistical analysis has progressed, the actual coaching hasn’t changed as much as you’d expect with the technology available.

    i just think the yankees are way behind the times compared to where they could be with their resources.

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