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A few winter league numbers

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 06, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Just a few winter league statistics from the Yankees organization. As usual, there aren’t many big names playing down south this offseason, but there are a few names that might at least ring a bell.

Ramiro Pena
Mexican League
.233/.295/.308 in 33 games

Splitting his time pretty evenly between shortstop and third base, the Yankees utility infielder put up a fairly typical offensive slash line (though he did hit one homer). Truth be told, even for Pena this was a pretty slow offensive winter. He’s hit better than this the past two winters.

Eduardo Nunez
Dominican Winter League
.348/.333/.391 in seven games

Nunez bunted a ball off his face and was limited to only seven games. Last time I talked to anyone in the Yankees organization about the incident, the team hadn’t heard much but knew enough to be overly concerned. Like Pena, Nunez was getting time at shortstop and third base.

Colin Curtis
Dominican Winter League
.240/.356/.300 in 14 games

Tiny sample size for Curtis, who got all of his time in the outfield corners this winter (and probably made some pretty solid money doing it). He actually had a hit in six of his last season games, and finished with the same number of walks as strikeouts, but it’s hard to make too much out of 14 games.

Romulo Sanchez
Venezuelan Winter League
1-2, 6.89 ERA in 19 games

The hard-throwing right-hander did have 17 strikeouts in 15.2 innings, and he generated a lot of ground balls, but he also allowed a .292 opponents batting average and gave up three homers.  Not nearly as good as last year’s winter ball numbers (45 strikeouts and a .218 opponents average in 31 innings).

Jordan Parraz
Venezuelan Winter League
.306/.393/.389 in 25 games

This is the outfielder the Yankees claimed off waivers this winter. He played center field and right field this winter, and he got his hits in bunches. He had seven multi-hit games, including three three-hit games.

Jorge Vazquez
Mexican League
.346/.401/.647 in 36 games

If you don’t already know this name, you should probably store it somewhere in the back of your mind. Vazquez is a big, power-hitting corner infielder who more than held his own in Triple-A last season. He’s primarily a first baseman, but he can play third. He hit 10 homers but also struck out 41 times this winter.

Josh Schmidt
Venezuelan Winter League
5-3, 2.79 ERA in 14 games, 13 starts

There is absolutely nothing flashy about Schmidt, but this is the second winter in a row in which he’s pitched very well in Venezuela. He’s been terrific in Trenton as well, but his stuff simply doesn’t compare to the bigger name pitchers in the Yankees system. He’s eligible free agency after this season, and it will be good for him to move on.

Justin Christian
Mexican League
.356/.452/.561 in 64 games

I believe Christian is a minor league free agent, but he spent last season in the Yankees organization and has his only big league service time with the Yankees. I mention him primarily because he was absolutely dominant this winter, leading the league in hits, doubles, stolen bases, runs and extra-base hits. He fell off the map with some injury problems the past few years, but those winter league numbers are hard to ignore.

A few more…

C Gustavo Molina: .170/.207/.364 in 31 games in Venezuela
Signed as a minor league free agent this winter.

LHP Andy Sisco: 6-5, 4.04 in 15 games in Mexico
Minor league signing worked as a starter this winter.

INF Walter Ibarra: .303/.356/.387 in 56 games in Mexico
Class-A utility man did pretty well for himself.

SS Jose Pirela: .333/.387/.471 in 29 games in Venezuela
Fringy prospect hit just .180 in the Arizona Fall League.

INF Luis Nunez: .361/.425/.389 in 15 games in Venezuela
Continuing a trend, another organizational infielder with good winter stats.

LHP Wilkin Arias: 3-0, 3.21 in 17 games in the Dominican
30-year-old held lefties to a .192 average. Old for a prospect.

RHP Eric Wordekemper: 0-0, 6.05 in 21 games in Mexico
Four-run outing didn’t help. Good Triple-A numbers last year.

Associated Press photo of Pena

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123 Responses to “A few winter league numbers”

  1. 108 stitches January 6th, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    G. Love January 6th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
    Who cares about giving the pick to Tampa? They are a budget operation who by the time that pick is ready for the majors, they’ll have lost Price, Longoria and anything else that is real talent they presently have.

    The Yankees should happily give up the pick and take the money they would have spent for the pick and buy the best International free agent on the table with it.

    Besides, not every late 1st rounder turns into an All Star. A lot of them turn out to be nothing.

    Soriano, on the other hand, takes the pressure off of Mo, Robertsen and Joba and allows everyone to comfortably fit into roles.

    With Soriano in the pen you will not see 2 inning saves by Mo at all.

    Also, Soriano won’t be pushed as hard as he was in Tampa knowing he’s handing the ball to Mo.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    All valid points. Until something changes, Sabathia is the only proven innings eater within the current starting staff. The bullpen will need to be a strong point and managed well.

  2. blake January 6th, 2011 at 6:28 pm

    3/30 would be fine for Soriano. They’ll have nearly that much money coming off the books in Igawa and Marte next year so just think of it as him taking their money. He could really help them until the rotation is sorted out.

  3. 28 RINGS January 6th, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    # joeman January 6th, 2011 at 6:14 pm

    Soriano pitched well the last two years..before that he was nothing

    —————

    In his 9 year career, he has only had an ERA over 3 twice – his rookie year and a 13.50 ERA over a mere 3 innings in 2004. He obviously has had some health problems, but when he has stayed on the field, he has been extremely productive.

  4. tyanksfan36 January 6th, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    This post about minor leaguers is making me wish it was April when minor league games start back up. I need something other than this blog to waste my time.

  5. blake January 6th, 2011 at 6:33 pm

    Soriano has been good whenever he’s been healthy and he’s been healthy for a couple years now. These are the risks the Yankees can afford to take, the ones that have a real chance to make the team better.

  6. Yankee Trader January 6th, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    Top paid closers in 2010:

    Mariano Rivera (NYY): 15M/yr
    Brad Lidge (PHI): 12.5M/yr
    Francisco Rodriguez (NYM): 12.3M/yr
    Joe Nathan (MIN): 11.75M/yr
    Francisco Cordero (CIN): 11.5M/yr

    Soriano/Boras might well be looking at 12M/year.

  7. LGY January 6th, 2011 at 6:42 pm

    Among qualified relievers last year Soriano had the 8th highest FB%

  8. LGY January 6th, 2011 at 6:44 pm

    He also had the 2nd lowest BABIP at .212 among.

    Mo’s lowest BABIP ever was in 1999 at .223.

  9. Wave Your Hat January 6th, 2011 at 6:45 pm

    LGY-

    I was being unsuccesfully ironic as regards Soriano.

  10. Doreen January 6th, 2011 at 6:45 pm

    Looks like Ramiro Pena may have topped out.

    Ouch – poor Nunez! In his 7 games, looks like good numbers, but wow – hope he’ll be okay by spring training.

    Question: Am I wrong in my belief that the Venezuelan league is fairly difficult?

    I would love to see Justin Christian continue this trend in spring training and force the Yankees to do something with him. He did play for the big team a couple of seasons ago and he was okay.

  11. G. Love January 6th, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    Yankee Trader,

    They might be looking at 12 million a year, but I don’t see them getting it.

    Who is out there that will pay him 12 million a year to close?

    Maybe the Nats? I don’t see any other team going there unless it’s a 1 year deal.

  12. Yankee Trader January 6th, 2011 at 6:47 pm

    Soriano beginning to grow on me. Hope we don’t get another dissapointment. Looking over his player profile and situational stats he had great year and finished strong.

    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/p.....age/210750

  13. LGY January 6th, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    “I was being unsuccesfully ironic as regards Soriano.”

    ——————–

    lol. Reading it again, I think it was me unsuccessfully recognizing the obvious.

    So, better question. What is the max you would go?

  14. Doreen January 6th, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    I love the “BABIP” – bah-bip. Makes one laugh!! :)

  15. BoJo January 6th, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    Give Soriano a base with incentives.

    Year 1–$9M plus $1M for every 20 games he appears in ==>Total opp $12M
    Year 2–Same…If he achieves his incentives in Year 1, bump him to $10M base
    Year 3–If he achieves his year 2 incentives, $12M base, plus bonus opps. If not, Yankee option to buy oout contract at $3M

    Total guaranteed == $21M with upside to $40M

  16. LGY January 6th, 2011 at 6:51 pm

    20th lowest HR/FB%

    Down 2.5% from 2009.

  17. Rich in NJ January 6th, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    Pena can’t hit anywhere, apparently.

  18. BoJo January 6th, 2011 at 6:53 pm

    Justin Christian is this year’s Jon Weber. Nuff said.

  19. Yankee Trader January 6th, 2011 at 6:53 pm

    Doreen-

    You’re looking at the SEL 4Motion Tiguan. Doesn’t it come with navigation already? Do you have to purchase the upgraded navigation/audio package to get a back-up camera?

    Also does it have a power rear liftgate?

  20. BoJo January 6th, 2011 at 6:59 pm

    LGY January 6th, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    You want them to sign Soriano or you want to to carry an unlimited payroll?

    I always prefer patience over rash/reactionary moves. I not only buy into the patience strategy. I WANT them to continue following it and would be sorely disappointed if they abandon that strategy.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Signing Soriano could allow Cashman to put Joba back in SP rotation, and thus give him the bridge to cover Joba’s transition to starter, just like CC and AJ gave Cashman a bridge to cover transition to yourg prospects.

    If Joba actually can mature and develop into a top starter, then spending even up to $40M on Soriano is like investing a posting fee for Dice-K, and is well worth the investment.

  21. Joe from Long Island January 6th, 2011 at 7:01 pm

    Hi – if it were me, I’d take a shot at Soriano, regardless of what Andy decides to do. That’s the advantage of being the Yankees, being able to spend the resources.

    I find it hard to know what to make of the Winter baseball numbers. It’s a limited number of games, players may have other issues in winter ball.

    Doreen – I was reading Consumer Reports on cars today – I’m in the market myself – they have some concerns about VW reliability. FWIW.

  22. Doreen January 6th, 2011 at 7:02 pm

    Yankee Trader -

    It comes with a basic navigation system. If you upgrade to premium nav, then you get a larger screen (6.5 vs. 5), the back-up camera, the 30GB hard drive, and a trial subscription to Sirius Traffic, plus an upgraded sounds system. It does not look like it has a power rear liftgate. I would have to manually close it. (That’s okay, though, I’m pretty strong!)

    I could probably live without all of it. But I’d like the back-up camera. The hard drive would allow me to upload (download?) my music from my iPod into the car; I would not want to pay a monthly fee for Sirius traffic after the 3-month trial; and I don’t care about upgrading the sound system. So, is it worth, over the life of the financing, about $30 or so a month for the bigger screen and the back-up camera? That is the question.

  23. Rich in NJ January 6th, 2011 at 7:02 pm

    “Signing Soriano could allow Cashman to put Joba back in SP rotation…

    It would be nice if true, but I don’t see any indication that it’s being considered.

  24. LGY January 6th, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    Bojo,

    Based on Cashman’s comments regarding Joba I don’t think signing Soriano has any impact on Joba.

  25. BoJo January 6th, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    LGY January 6th, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    Bojo,

    Based on Cashman’s comments regarding Joba I don’t think signing Soriano has any impact on Joba
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++
    How is Bubba Crosby doing in CF/ Or Swisher at 1B? Or Montero as starting catcher next season?

  26. Rich in NJ January 6th, 2011 at 7:06 pm

    How was Joba’s record as a starter in 2010?

  27. blake January 6th, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    LGY,

    are you making a.case for or against Soriano or are you just posting random statistics again ;)

  28. Yankee Trader January 6th, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    Doreen

    Thanks for the info and best wishes on your purchase.

  29. Doreen January 6th, 2011 at 7:08 pm

    Joe from Long Island.

    I know…

    I read the same things.

    They also have reliability concerns with the Audi Q5.

    I’m trying to decipher the numbers a bit. JD Powers – not so hot, but Pat M told me that might not be so accurate.

    Here’s the article where I started to research:

    http://www.bankrate.com/brm/ne.....tings1.asp

    The cost for repairs and maintenance on the Tiguan weren’t so out of line as to make me worry. However on the Q5, after the 3rd year, the costs skyrocket. If we go the Audi route it would be a 3-year lease, I think.

    The problem is I want a little luxury, looks and a good car, with a particular size range, and there isn’t anything out there that I can get all of it. I even looked into the Mercedes, because its base price is not out of line. But it’s an a la carte situation. Everything is an add-on option. Gets the cost up there very quickly.

    I’ve absolutely NEVER done so much research before buying a car.

  30. Doreen January 6th, 2011 at 7:09 pm

    Yankee Trader -

    Thanks and you’re welcome!

  31. LGY January 6th, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    Looks like the Angels will be raising payroll even without signing a big FA. They have 8 players eligible for arbitration “likely taking the team’s payroll into the $130 million range — about $10 million higher than last season.”

    http://losangeles.angels.mlb.c.....8;c_id=ana

  32. LGY January 6th, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    For those who wanted Cashman to play hardball and set a deadline on their Lee offer:

    The Angels “did offer Adrian Beltre $70 million over five years, and apparently they set a short three-day deadline that wasn’t taken very seriously. “I don’t understand their ultimatum strategy,” one competing executive said.”

    Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....z1AItk34Kx

  33. Rich in NJ January 6th, 2011 at 7:14 pm

    I’m not opposed to signing Soriano, mainly because it will end the chance that they would vastly overpay for Soria and I think Mo is becoming more susceptible to injury, but let’s not bootstrap the logic for a decision based on the idea that because Cash has engaged in roster misdirection a few times it necessarily means everything he says is a misdirection.

    I do hate losing a 1st rounder for a setup reliever.

  34. Rich in NJ January 6th, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    “For those who wanted Cashman to play hardball and set a deadline on their Lee offer”

    The rationale for a deadline would turn on how much they (not me) wanted Crawford.

  35. LGY January 6th, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    “are you making a.case for or against Soriano or are you just posting random statistics again”

    —————–

    Posting random statistics*

    *Disclaimer: The statistics being posted may represent my bias towards not giving big money and years to Soriano.*

  36. Yankee Trader January 6th, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    Doreen-

    BTW, what did you think of the Mazda CX-7?

    http://www.cars.com/mazda/cx-7/2011/

  37. 108 stitches January 6th, 2011 at 7:16 pm

    Rafael Soriano would not be a financial burden on the Yankees books with money coming off in 2012 from Posada, Igawa, and Marte.
    Scott Boras might be reasonable with the Yankees since he’s made his biggest commissions already for the deals done with Werth and Beltre.

  38. LGY January 6th, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    “LGY – Soriano is available.”

    ————–

    And I don’t particularly want the Yankees to sign him.

    And if they do want to sign him I want them to exercise patience and wait him out to get his price to drop further.

    So, yes I am for patience and I want it to continue in all facets of the organization.

  39. Doreen January 6th, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    Yankee Trader -

    We didn’t like the CR write up at all.

    (We tried to eliminate as many as possible before actually going out into dealerships – or the battleground!)

  40. LGY January 6th, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    “The rationale for a deadline would turn on how much they (not me) wanted Crawford.”

    —————–

    True.

    But if they really wanted Crawford enough to set a deadline on Lee, I can imagine them being able to rely that to Craw. Yankee dollars are a pretty convincing thing to wait for.

    Alas, I don’t think the Yankees ever had any real interest in him.

  41. Rich in NJ January 6th, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    “Rafael Soriano would not be a financial burden on the Yankees books with money coming off in 2012 from Posada, Igawa, and Marte.”

    That depends on where they want their budget to be, what their other needs are and how much those needs will cost.

  42. Rich in NJ January 6th, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    LGY

    Maybe, but Cash has said that waiting on Lee affected other plans, so if not Crawford, then who? (that’s rhetorical, you don’t have to answer)

  43. LGY January 6th, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    you don’t have to answer

    ——————

    I’m glad, because I have no idea :)

  44. BoJo January 6th, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    Doreen–

    Have you considered the following options:

    1) Picking up the lease on a 2009 or 2010 vehicle. Sometimes owners need to get out of leases and great deals become available. You can pick up 2 to 3 years remaining on a lease, and then return the car. If thre car has a purchase option, you can look at picking htat up and trading it in.

    2) Purchasing from rental car agencies. Again, some great deals exist on cars that are well maintained. Usually come with good warranties as well.

    3) EBay and Craigslist market place. Some good deals there. Also, once you have VIN number, you can call places that buy cars and get quote on what they would pay. THis gives you baseline to negotiate up from with seller.

  45. SAS January 6th, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    Yankee Trader,

    I am not that up to date on new cars. We are due to get a couple this summer….however, my husband almost died in a Mazda….I would never get one of any kind.

  46. SAS January 6th, 2011 at 7:29 pm

    Doreen,

    My kids move to a house in Westchester tomorrow and they leased the Jetta as their smaller car.

  47. Doreen January 6th, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    BoJo

    No, I haven’t.

    I really wanted a new car.

    Plus we have a vehicle that we’re going to trade in. We don’t want the hassle of selling it ourselves, even though we know we get less for it.

    There’s only so much we have the energy to do! :)

  48. Doreen January 6th, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    SAS -

    Best wishes to them on their move.

    Funny you should mention they got a Jetta. I drove to WP yesterday to drop off some stuff at my daughter’s (yeah, a 3-hour round-trip for a drop-off – oy!) and I saw 2 or 3 Jetta’s on 287. :)

  49. SAS January 6th, 2011 at 7:32 pm

    Bojo,

    That would be a great idea for me this summer because I don’t put much mileage on a car in NY. How do you find out about those leases that people have to get out of and how do you find out their condition???

  50. MTU January 6th, 2011 at 7:34 pm

    Doreen-

    Did you try the Hyundai Tucson limited AWD ?

    By the way, I would love to see Justin Christian get another shot with the parent club.

  51. BoJo January 6th, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    SAS–

    There are entire websites devoted to posting and matching leases.

    Here is one:

    http://www.leasetrader.com/

  52. BoJo January 6th, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    Go here for others:

    http://www.google.com/search?h.....8;gs_rfai=

  53. pat January 6th, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    Doreen

    Who knew picking a car would be met with the reaction naming our kids did. :wink:

    Everyone has an opinion and means well but only you know what will work for you.

    Here’s my 2 cents. Once you make a decision, look up a few dealers on the wenb and contact their Internet depts. Many dealerships have one and since they’ve done litle leg work for the sale, they are often willing to make you a good deal.

    We bought a car once from a dealership in CT that we found on the Internet . An hour drive to pick it up was worth what we saved.

  54. SAS January 6th, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    Doreen,

    Thanks. It is very exciting because they had all kinds of problems selling their apt. with the Co-op Board in their building in NYC. Then they rented an apt. for a few months because they couldn’t find a house in the right school district, close enough to the City, etc. Both of them work in NYC. I should be able to see my grandson more often and more easily so I am thrilled.

  55. BoJo January 6th, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    Doreen–

    Understood. I personally stopped buying new years ago, because I felt I could get more car for the money via other options….but that is a personal choice that also requires legwork.

  56. Doreen January 6th, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    MTU -

    Ha! I actually saw my first Tucson on the road today (actually in a supermarket parking lot). I did go to the Hyundai website. But the cargo is even smaller than the Tiguan and CR said it was noisy.

    I’m very difficult. I know. ;)

  57. BoJo January 6th, 2011 at 7:40 pm

    pat January 6th, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    Doreen

    Who knew picking a car would be met with the reaction naming our kids did.

    Everyone has an opinion and means well but only you know what will work for you.

    Here’s my 2 cents. Once you make a decision, look up a few dealers on the wenb and contact their Internet depts. Many dealerships have one and since they’ve done litle leg work for the sale, they are often willing to make you a good deal.

    We bought a car once from a dealership in CT that we found on the Internet . An hour drive to pick it up was worth what we saved.
    ++++++++++++
    Great advice that I followed years ago. Today, I would use eBay car dealer network to define the area I would be willing to travel to, the specific car, and then find the best deal.

  58. YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 7:41 pm

    Want to know how crappy Brian Cashman’s winter has been??? Look no further than this blog and “Yankees Hot Stove” On YES.

    We’re getting nothing but winter ball and rule 5 breakdowns here… But Hot Stove is even more revealing.

    Today was the first Hot Stove show since the Holidays… That’s WEEKS of time for content to build… And 10 minutes in, Bob, Jack and Jon are talking about the TEXAS RANGERS signing Beltre.

    Good job, Brian. I look forward to your sorry @$$ getting flushed down the toilet with the rest of the feces.

  59. BoJo January 6th, 2011 at 7:42 pm

    Or even start shopping on eBay by defining the car type I want, and seeing what the options are. For example, hatchback with what features…etc.

  60. Doreen January 6th, 2011 at 7:43 pm

    BoJo -

    We were going to go the pre-owned route, but we felt our trade-in value was pretty good so we might as well go new.

    My husband has a pre-owned Lexus. It’s a great car. It felt brand new when we took it home. Really good service by the dealership, too.

  61. BoJo January 6th, 2011 at 7:43 pm

    Also, you might call a few car buyer companies to see what they will give you for your used car so that you have some leverage in your negotiations. Take only a few e-mails back and forth.

  62. blake January 6th, 2011 at 7:44 pm

    Just saw where Keppenger was having surgery on his foot and will likely miss the start of the season…..maybe that’s why talks went nowhere on him.

  63. BoJo January 6th, 2011 at 7:44 pm

    The Lexus (and INfinity and Accura) are great cars. I presume their SUVs are too big for your taste?

  64. Yankee Trader January 6th, 2011 at 7:46 pm

    MTU-

    Here’s your new green Hyundai Veloster coming out this summer:

    http://www.topspeed.com/cars/h.....00178.html

  65. BoJo January 6th, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    For example,
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors.....35aee7eb3e

  66. MTU January 6th, 2011 at 7:48 pm

    Doreen-

    They might have been talking about the Tucson with the 4 cylinder engine.

    The six is much quieter.

    It will run rings around that tiguan and will be much more reliable.

    By the way, the Tucson is 5 star crash rated I believe. Not sure about the VW.

  67. Doreen January 6th, 2011 at 7:49 pm

    pat -

    So true! (But I opened myself up to it, didn’t I? :lol: )

    I hadn’t thought about the internet route. Though I did try to get quotes before I went out and only the Honda dealership gave an actual internet price.

    I swear I’ve NEVER, EVER done this much work for a car before.

  68. YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    Of course, there is that other clear sign that Cashman’s winter has been a complete train wreck… The message board here has turned into a continuous online version of Auto Trader.

    Not that I blame the people posting… Talking cars is a hell of a lot more interesting than watching that sorry sack of dog $#!t Brian Cashman sleeping with his thumb shoved up his @$$!

  69. BIG AL January 6th, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    MTU & Doreen -

    I fully agree on Justin Christian getting his shot at ST. I watched him play in AAA SWB, and this guy can play. If it had not been for injuries, I believe he’d be in the ML already. He has all the tools, and would be less costly than bringing in a has -been FA.

  70. LGY January 6th, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    I think Doreen should get a Vespa.

  71. Carlo January 6th, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    I’m not getting too excited over Soriano……Boras has every reason to say Soriano would be a setup guy for the Yankees……and 90% of his reasoning is nothing more than nonsense lip service to boost his clients value. Means absolutely nothing.

  72. SAS January 6th, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    Bojo,

    My husband drives an Avalon, and he swears there is no difference between a Lexus and Toyota. Now I am not so sure, but we would not spend that much money on an equivalent Lexus. I do have both an Acura and Accord. Acura in NY and Accord in AZ. There is a difference. I got a good deal on my Acura though, a really good deal. It was cheaper than the Accord on that given day.

  73. Doreen January 6th, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    MTU -

    The Tiguan also has a top safety pick distinction, and CR calls it “impressive.” Also has their first-year reliability as average. I can live with average. :)

    It’s laser-welded and apparently that is a good thing. :)

    (I’m beginning to sound like a commercial.)

  74. mick January 6th, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    Doreen will not buy a HYundai, high class chick.

  75. Doreen January 6th, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    LGY -

    Do they still make DeLoreans? ;)

  76. MTU January 6th, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    YT-

    Thanks for the tip but with what I do off road capability is essential.

    ;)

  77. BIG AL January 6th, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    ————————————————————
    The only worse than watching Cashman, as you described, is your incessant posts concerning Cashman.

    Larry I’d tell you to go back to your own blog, but then you’d be all alone, with no one to read your never ending crap.

    Do this blog, and the world a big favor, and get lost.

  78. BIG AL January 6th, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    MTU -

    I guess that makes you a low class dude, lol.

  79. BoJo January 6th, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    SAS–

    All are great cars. I actually enjoy the shopping for cars because it is like a chess game with dealers. Once you know there game, it is fun to get best deal.

    I have also heard that both the Nissans and Toyotas are sometimes preferred in used market over the Lexus and Infinity brands…seems crazy, but that is what I have heard from friends in the used car biz. All get about 200K on engines before you even have to worry about them.

  80. Yankee Trader January 6th, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    Doreen-

    Dealing with the internet manager before you go in, getting an e-mail quote from them helps. Once you settle on the price, knowing the invoice and dealer rebates/holdbacks, then see what they’ll give you on your trade-in. After that see what extras they’ll throw in-cargo cover, wheel locks, splash guards, running boards, extended warranty at their cost, etc. I worked this on my current MDX.

    The Tiguan looks like a winner. Again best of luck. It’s exhausting but well worth the trouble.

  81. BIG AL January 6th, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    LGY -

    No more DeLoreans, not for many years. Too bad, cool cars.

  82. BoJo January 6th, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    typo s/b their game

  83. Doreen January 6th, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    Carlo -

    I agree. Whatever happens happens. Not getting hopes up. And even with that, I hate getting relief pitchers. They’re so unpredictable, generally speaking.

  84. YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    Turth hurts, Big Al.

  85. BoJo January 6th, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    If you can buy the right DeLorean, you could go back in time and buy a new one.

  86. mick January 6th, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    WWDB=What Will Doreen Buy

    My money is on the Tiguan. She seems to like it and the other sounds too high.

  87. YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    Brian Cashman is going to need Doc Brown’s DeLorean to get anything out of that mountain-sized pile of $#!t he’s he’s built this offseason.

  88. LGY January 6th, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    On second thought, make that two Vespas!

    One for the hubby. Instantly the coolest couple on the block.

  89. BIG AL January 6th, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
    Turth hurts, Big Al.

    —————————————————
    So you admit I’m right, and you feel hurt, too bad. You add zero to this board, never one good post, which is sad for a person that claims to be a fan, all you are is a sad negative person, with apparently no live.

  90. SAS January 6th, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    I saw on the Nightly News and heard that it is going to snow tomorrow. Hope it’s not too bad.

  91. BIG AL January 6th, 2011 at 8:04 pm

    LGY -

    Free A/C on the Vespa’s. Sadly, no room for the Nav and Sync system.

  92. YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    “With apparently no live”???

    lol.

    You’re funny, Big Al. But try not to be so negative. Everybody, including me, is entitled to their opinion.

  93. MTU January 6th, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    Al-

    Maybe but at least I my vehicle won’t spend more time in the shop than on the road, and cost an arm and a leg to repair when it does
    happen to break.

    True story.

    A good friend of mine was a jet mechanic. He has been working on cars since he was a kid. I have lot of respect for his knowledge as a result.

    He has owned almost every type of car imaginable.

    Including numerous German autos.

    With that in mind, his choice for reliablity and performance.

    Japanese autos. Hands down.

    In his opinion the German cars are over engineered, overly complicated, expensive to maintain, and less reliable.

    So much for Teutonic excellence.

    Each to their own.

  94. Jerkface January 6th, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    Doreen,

    If you are having a trade in, get the price of your trade in first. If you tell them you wanna get X car and then say you have a trade in, they devalue your trade-in based on the price of the car you want. Get a price for the trade-in, then go to work on the car.

  95. mick January 6th, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    Next thread should have a few pictures of the cars Doreen is considering.

  96. Tar January 6th, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    Doreen

    I don’t know if their cars are any good, but I have done pretty good on VW’s stock. :D (MTU stop talking bad about them :evil: ) They are heavy in the Chinese market.

  97. joeman January 6th, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    # BIG AL January 6th, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    ————————————————————
    The only worse than watching Cashman, as you described, is your incessant posts concerning Cashman.

    Larry I’d tell you to go back to your own blog, but then you’d be all alone, with no one to read your never ending crap.

    Do this blog, and the world a big favor, and get lost.
    —————————————
    Telling someone what to do again….

  98. BIG AL January 6th, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    MTU -

    The Japanese cars enjoyed a good rep for many years, and they earned that rep, however, in the lastest results, Ford cars came out on top, with Honda just slightly under their numbers. Lexxus surprised me, coming in #6 in reliability. Prior to this year, Ford came in 3rd, behind Honda and Toyota.

    If I have a choice between 2 cars, that are close in cost and quality, I buy American. The fact that so much money leaves this country in overseas sales, is one reason we have a lack of good jobs now. JMO, we all are entitled to spend our money as we see fit.

  99. SAS January 6th, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    Al.

    You seem to know Yanks’nMore. He is surely not the type of poster we need here. His hatred of Cashman is out of sight and ridiculous. He is totally obnoxious, and I wish I knew what to do to get rid of him

  100. tyanksfan36 January 6th, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    Doreen

    My dad is just like you, he researches back and forth and up and down before he decides to buy something. When we were looking into buying my car I swear it took him 2 months to decide and he picked it without even asking me what I wanted. Luckily he picked a good one which hasn’t had too many expensive issues which is surprising because I am horrible with upkeep. I’m sure you will pick a car you will love.

  101. MTU January 6th, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    Tar-

    Sure. Anything you say Man.

    :)

  102. BIG AL January 6th, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    MTU -

    Need to go, I’ll catch you tomorrow AM, have a great night.

  103. joeman January 6th, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    whats this Car and Driver Blog

  104. BIG AL January 6th, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    SAS -

    Got to run, but I totally agree, be well.

  105. tyanksfan36 January 6th, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    mick says:

    January 6, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    Next thread should have a few pictures of the cars Doreen is considering.

    I was just thinking we should ask Chad if Doreen can write a post about her car search.

  106. YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    # BIG AL January 6th, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    ————————————————————
    The only worse than watching Cashman, as you described, is your incessant posts concerning Cashman.

    Larry I’d tell you to go back to your own blog, but then you’d be all alone, with no one to read your never ending crap.

    Do this blog, and the world a big favor, and get lost.
    —————————————
    Telling someone what to do again….
    —————————————————————————
    Ya, he is.

    Some folks think they’re running things… When they act like this on the internet, it’s often a sign that they have no control of anything in their real lives. They try to make up for it by being the Barney Fife of some internet board.

  107. mick January 6th, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    I was just thinking we should ask Chad if Doreen can write a post about her car search.
    =====================================================
    I think she has…

  108. MTU January 6th, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    Al-

    As I mentioned the other day for years all I did was buy Fords.

    I owned tempos, tauruses, and trucks.

    The only reason I went to the Hyundai was, at the time, the Escape was no match.

    The ground clearance on the Escape is still not good enough for what
    I like to do. The rear swing arms are in a bad position for serious off roading.

  109. mick January 6th, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    Barney Fife – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    ===========================
    Big Al?

  110. mick January 6th, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    MTU
    Big Al has left the building….again.

  111. mick January 6th, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Knotts

  112. DocTodd January 6th, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    What will happen first?? A car will be purchased,or a FA signed?? The suspense is killing me! lOL

  113. blake January 6th, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    Mlbnetwork doing top 10 first basemen now. Tex was #5.

  114. BoJo January 6th, 2011 at 8:34 pm

    I wonder if eBay has a special section for Free Agents?

  115. Rich in NJ January 6th, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    VOW.DE?

    52wk Range: 61.39 – 119.80

    “I don’t know if their cars are any good, but I have done pretty good on VW’s stock”

    Now, you tell me…

  116. mick January 6th, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    Is this the Anything But Yankees Blog?

  117. Tar January 6th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    Rich

    LOL

    But that is not the one, this is

    VLKAY

  118. 28 RINGS January 6th, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    “Next thread should have a few pictures of the cars Doreen is considering.”

    That would certainly be more eventful than the Yankees moves over the past month.

  119. joeman January 6th, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    # DocTodd January 6th, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    What will happen first?? A car will be purchased,or a FA signed?? The suspense is killing me! lOL
    ———————————-
    FA signing for sure

  120. Rich in NJ January 6th, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    Tar

    Oh, thanks, that has the virtually same 52 week appreciation percentage.

    My investments are mostly in commodities.

  121. Tar January 6th, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    Rich

    I am a very small player, but I have done quite well with Ford, VW and a couple other small Chinese chemicals (lithium).

  122. Wave Your Hat January 6th, 2011 at 9:03 pm

    Soriano in a great season had a WAR (per fangraphs) of 1.6. Giving him leverage credit, say $6M per 1.0 WAR, that’s about a $9.6M year (fangraphs says $6.4 but I think they might not be fully crediting leverage).

    In the hypothetical (because unrealistic) situation where the Yanks could get Soriano on a one year deal, if I were Cashman I’d be willing to pay him up to $12M this year because (i) the Yanks are going to be leaning heavily on their bullpen so Soriano could be extremely useful and (ii) the Yanks have no better use this year for their money. My guess is on a per year basis that would be the high offer and would land him.

    But, we all know Soriano won’t do a one year deal. Here’s the rub. Relievers are notoriously unpredictable. And, next year, the Yanks may have a better use for their money. So, you can’t offer him 2/24 or 3/36 or anything like that.

    Based on the $9.6M value I generously gave him for 2010, is he worth 3/28? Let’s assign him $12M for 2011, is the remaining 2/16 worth it? Probably. I’d be OK with that I think.

    At 3/30+ I’m beginning to get cold feet. Not 4, not for a reliever.

  123. YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 9:27 pm

    People REALLY need to stop pretending the money matters…

    The “budget” is only an excuse to be used at the Yankees’ whim.

    Remember the winter of 2008??? The Yankees had reached their “budget.” Told everybody who would listen, we’ve spent the money we had to spend…

    But they found another $180 million for Mark Teixeira, didn’t they?

    So let’s all stop pretending what they pay Soriano matters for next year and beyond… It only matters is they Yankees WANT it to matter… When they really want somebody, they sign him, for whatever it takes.

    That’s also why the Yanks could have paid Cliff Lee almost anything, and it wouldn’t have mattered. And if they REALLY wanted him, they would have… Just as they did with Sabathia.

    For God’s sake, their TV network ALONE is worth BILLIONS! The Yankees are playing with dollars while everybody else is playing with nickles.

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