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Getting a closer look at two Rule 5 picks

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 06, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

For the Yankees, spring training actually provides a unique opportunity to evaluate talent. It doesn’t mean much for the veterans who have been there and done that, but for Rule 5 picks and borderline minor leaguers, there is legitimate pressure to perform. It’s a different sort of pressure than they face in Scranton or Trenton.

“It’s as close to the regular season in New York as you can simulate,” pro scouting director Billy Eppler said. “They’re going to demonstrate anything they can do. They aren’t going to hold anything back. It can be a situation where you’re getting to see these guys in a little bit more adverse setting than what is typically out there.”

The results are not necessarily what the Yankees are trying to evaluate. They’re looking for how a player attacks and how he reacts. “We’re looking more for approach and process,” Eppler said.

I asked Eppler to give me a brief scouting report on each of the two Yankees Rule 5 picks. In each case, the Yankees saw talent in the minor leagues and thought they take a look under the microscope of big league camp.

Robert Fish
The Yankees had more than one scout who was impressed by Fish. “From the left-handed aspect there could be some value there,” Eppler said. “And we wanted to get a closer look.”

Fastball: 89-94 mph, averaging 91 to 92. Can miss bats.
Curveball: Has “feel” for the breaking ball. Curve has good downward tilt and size.
Change: Slight fade action.

Needs to improve strike throwing ability, but the Yankees like that he has the ability to miss bats and get strikeouts. They especially like those things from the left side. Eppler didn’t mention this, but obviously the Yankees have their top two left-handed options. They’ve also loaded up on lefties signed to minor league deals. Like any Rule 5 pick, Fish must be considered a long shot, but the Yankees believe there’s talent there.

Daniel Turpen
This one is more about grabbing an arm that has talent and finding out how it plays. Unlike Fish, Turpen has spent all of his career pitching out of the bullpen, having done it at Oregon State and throughout the minor leagues.

Fastball: 88-94 mph, averaging 92. Good sink that generates ground balls.
Slider: His breaking ball can be a strikeout pitch. Delivery plays a role.
Changeup: Turpen has thrown a changeup in the past, but the Yankees didn’t see one in 2010.

Turpen throws strikes, and he comes with a low 3/4 arm slot that adds deception. Just like Fish, the Yankees scouting reports described Turpen as having a “large, burly build.” He’s a big guy throwing with some velocity and sink from the right side. As it stands, the Yankees seem to have six of seven bullpen spots accounted for. Turpen could find his way into the mix kind of like Jonathan Albaladejo did when he broke camp in 2008 and 2009.

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226 Responses to “Getting a closer look at two Rule 5 picks”

  1. heyman_sux January 6th, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    Is it just me, or does it look like they picked up two more Joba’s…

  2. MG January 6th, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    I don’t read this blog much in the off season but the negativity about the Yankees for 2011 is beyond ridiculous.

    The team won 95 games last year in spite of AJ being terrible, Vazquez not being able to stay in the rotation, Andy missing most of the 2nd half, Jeter having his worst year ever, Teix having a down year, Arod not having a great year, Grandy being pretty bad until August. Do I have to go on?

    Signing Martin will help out behind the plate defensively, AJ has to be better than last year, Hughes will most likely be more consistent throughout the season, and several key position players will have better seasons.

    I don’t want Mitre as the #5 starter either but it’s almost 3 months until the start of the season, don’t you think the Yankees are working on an upgrade? I do.

    Maybe the Sox are improved from last year, maybe not, we’ll see what happens on the field. At worst the Yankees are a wild card and once it’s playoffs time it’s whoever is hot wins the World Series, no one could have predicted that Cody Ross and Edgar Renteria, both rejects, would be the key players in the Giants’ scoring enough runs to win the WS last year.

  3. Yankee Trader January 6th, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    Just resign Thames who had at least 3 game winning hits that I can remember. Let Golson be your defensive replacement in OF.

    As far as the 2 Rule 5 picks, I have no clue as to who will possibly stick.

  4. Chip January 6th, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    heyman_sux January 6th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
    Is it just me, or does it look like they picked up two more Joba’s…

    —————-

    The Yankees do seem to have a fascination with “large” pitchers lately. Joba, Bruney, Albaladejo.

    Of all the minor league lefties the Yankees have picked up I’m holding out the most hope for Andrew Sisco. I remember when he first came up – he was just filthy.

  5. Chip January 6th, 2011 at 12:37 pm

    Yankee Trader January 6th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
    Just resign Thames who had at least 3 game winning hits that I can remember. Let Golson be your defensive replacement in OF.

    As far as the 2 Rule 5 picks, I have no clue as to who will possibly stick.

    ——————

    I doubt either of them stick.

    With Feliciano and Logan the Yankees are set from the left side (Unless Fish does something incredible)

    And Turpen would have to beat out a lot of other arms to get a spot – including Romulo Sanchez and Mark Prior.

  6. DaSaint007 January 6th, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    Turpen is a Joba look-alike. Joba II.

  7. Yankee Trader January 6th, 2011 at 12:41 pm

    MG-

    In spite of those position players off years, the Yankees scored the most runs[859] in the league. I agree with you. Still “patiently” waiting for Cashman to address the pitching with some quality arms.

  8. DaSaint007 January 6th, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    Welcome back MG. Another voice of calm and reason.

    Lots of time before the season.
    Lots of time before the ASB.
    Lots of time before the trade deadline.

    Lots of time to improve a team that struggled, yet won 95 games.

  9. heyman_sux January 6th, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    Imagine AJ shows up this year and performs like it’s 2008? Suddenly the rotation looks 20x better. I know thats a big ‘what if’….but you literally never know what to expect from AJ.

    Either way the offense is gonna score a ton as usual

  10. YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    Ah yes… The Rule 5 draft. The biggest part of Brian Cashman’s offseason!

    When did we turn into the Kansas City Royals?

  11. DaSaint007 January 6th, 2011 at 12:48 pm

    YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
    Ah yes… The Rule 5 draft. The biggest part of Brian Cashman’s offseason!

    When did we turn into the Kansas City Royals?
    ————————————-

    I sincerely hope you’re a more positive person in your non-blogging life. You’ve got to be.
    I can’t believe you’re negative by nature.

  12. Chip January 6th, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    The 2011 Yankees will be fine.

    We see other teams making headlines and get itchy.

    I think I’ve probably said it a hundred times by now – making short sighted moves; spending money on players you don’t need just because you have money to spend – that doesn’t make you a good team. It makes you the Mets. And I don’t want to be the Mets.

    Cashman came into this winter with five goals in mind: Re-sign Jeter, re-sign Mo, get Posada out from behind the dish, sign Lee and tinker around the edges with the rest of the team.

    He has done three of the four things on his list. Not signing Lee shouldn’t translate into throwing $10 mil at another DH and making him reconsider his plans for Posada.

  13. YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    I call it like it I see it. Short of re-signing Mo, which was a given, I, as a Yankees fan, see nothing to be positive about regarding Cashman’s offseason.

  14. DaSaint007 January 6th, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    Ok, YankeesNmore, I have an exercise for you.
    Give me the positives about the Yankee lineup. No negatives, just positives.

  15. Mike Ri January 6th, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    YankeesNmore

    I know the being patient is tough . .But Cashman is doing the right thing . Theres just nothing out there.

  16. Rich in NJ January 6th, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    “Is it just me, or does it look like they picked up two more Joba’s…”

    You saw Joba pitch in 2007 and 2008, right? He displayed top tier talent. These guys can’t sniff that.

  17. YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    Theres just nothing out there.
    ————————–
    Not now.

  18. Chip January 6th, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
    Ah yes… The Rule 5 draft. The biggest part of Brian Cashman’s offseason!

    When did we turn into the Kansas City Royals?

    —————–

    1. Were you asleep when Cash re-signed Jeter, Mo and brought in a starting catcher?

    2. Rule 5 draft has yielded some pretty good results for teams:
    Josh Hamilton
    Johan Santana
    Shane Victorino
    Dan Uggla
    those are just the ones that immediately come to mind.

  19. SAS January 6th, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    It is my wish that Andy return to the Yankees for a final year. The Yankees need him, and he can go out in style. Without Andy we have no idea what 2 of our pitchers will be like. I know I speak only as a fan, but I love the guy, and there is no one else barring a trade that can fill his shoes.

    I have no objection to Damon and Thames. Or what about V. Guerro (sp?). He surely can hit and play with outfield in a emergency. I realize then that Golson and Nunez (Pena) would be the other bench players, and I think they will get their opportunities to play. I guess Cervelli is the back up catcher at least at the beginning of the season.

  20. Chip January 6th, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    DaSaint007 January 6th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
    Ok, YankeesNmore, I have an exercise for you.
    Give me the positives about the Yankee lineup. No negatives, just positives.

    ——————

    I have a better one – instead of just whining about what Cashman has or hasn’t done – tell us what you would have done differently?

  21. YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    QUOTE: “Ok, YankeesNmore, I have an exercise for you. Give me the positives about the Yankee lineup. No negatives, just positives.”
    ————————————————–
    “Pitching is the keys to the kingdom.” – Brian Cashman.

    Pissing their pants in excitement over offense is what teams that lose do.

  22. heyman_sux January 6th, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    You saw Joba pitch in 2007 and 2008, right? He displayed top tier talent. These guys can?t sniff that.
    ______

    Lol it was just a joke. I meant they literally had a physical appearance resembling that of Joba. And yet, you are correct

  23. Chip January 6th, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
    Theres just nothing out there.
    ————————–
    Not now.

    —————–

    What would you have done differently?

    Would you have matched the stupid contracts Boston and Washington gave to Crawford and Werth when you didn’t actually need an outfielder?

    Would you have traded 3 of the top guys in your farm system for a pitcher you’re not sure can handle New York?

    Would you have given Cliff Lee a 10 year $300 mil contract just to make sure he signed here?

    Please tell me – what would you have done?

  24. YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    QUOTE: “I have a better one – instead of just whining about what Cashman has or hasn’t done – tell us what you would have done differently?”
    —————————————————-
    Given Cliff Lee whatever it took.

  25. Chip January 6th, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
    QUOTE: “I have a better one – instead of just whining about what Cashman has or hasn’t done – tell us what you would have done differently?”
    —————————————————-
    Given Cliff Lee whatever it took.

    —————-

    Cliff Lee didn’t want to be here – he turned down more money from the Yankees to go to the Phillies – what more do you want Cashman to do? What could Brian have done differently in those negotiations – moved the Yankees to Philly? Given him a 10 year $300 mil contract?

    If the Yankees had lost out on Lee because they didn’t offer him enough I would be with you – but that’s not the case. The guy just did not want to pitch here…that’s not Brian’s fault.

  26. upstate kate January 6th, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    Cliff Lee wanted to pitch in the easier NL. It wasn’t about the $$$. You can’t make someone go where they don’t want to.

  27. heyman_sux January 6th, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    Given Cliff Lee whatever it took.
    _______

    That’s ummm…a good plan?

  28. Rich in NJ January 6th, 2011 at 1:05 pm

    “Lol it was just a joke. I meant they literally had a physical appearance resembling that of Joba. And yet, you are correct”

    Oh, sorry, I suck at multi-tasking.

  29. blake January 6th, 2011 at 1:06 pm

    Whatever it took may have been 200 million over 8 or 9 years…..and even then he may not have taken it. The Yankees wanted him….he chose to go elsewhere so now the goal should be kicking his butt and making him realize he made the wrong decision. You can’t get everyone and doing something just for the sake of doing something is never a good idea….(ask Omar Minya how that Jason Bay deal worked out).

  30. Chip January 6th, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    blake January 6th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
    and doing something just for the sake of doing something is never a good idea….(ask Omar Minya how that Jason Bay deal worked out).
    ——————–

    Or the Yankees with regard to Igawa.

  31. DaSaint007 January 6th, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    Given Cliff Lee whatever it took.

    That’s a creative solution. And it doesn’t indicate how you FORCE someone to accept an offer if they DON’T want to accept it. Maybe you have a price whereby you will do whatever for whomever should there be enough money involved, but evidently Cliff Lee isn’t you.

  32. Captain Clutch January 6th, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    As far as Cashman’s off season goes….It would bee nice to know the players that teams are asking for when Cash calls and tries to trade for a starting pitcher. I am sure Cash has spoken to the W.Sox gm so who did they ask for? Also when Cash says gms are “asking for too much” is too much Montero/Romine or Nova, Nunez and others? If it’s not the top tier than Cash isn’t doing a good job because he is once again having separation anxiety from his lower tier prospects and he could be making moves.

  33. Chip January 6th, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    By the way – it’s old news but I’m not sure how many saw it.

    Kevin Towers has been plucking pieces from the Yankee farm system – signing David Winfree and PJ Pillitiere

  34. blake January 6th, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    My guess is that everyone is asking for at least one of Montero, Betances, and Banuelos right now……at this point in the offseason most teams have filled the majority of their holes and will only make a trade if its really good. That will change as players get injured and teams fall out of contention when the season starts.

  35. DaSaint007 January 6th, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    Chip January 6th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
    By the way – it’s old news but I’m not sure how many saw it.

    Kevin Towers has been plucking pieces from the Yankee farm system – signing David Winfree and PJ Pillitiere
    ————————————–

    yes, the system that’s soooo bad. Towers used his time well.

  36. bruceb January 6th, 2011 at 1:22 pm

    MG January 6th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
    I don’t read this blog much in the off season but the negativity about the Yankees for 2011 is beyond ridiculous.

    Excellent and positive post. Yes, there are a number of players who should improve on their stats this year. But we all know that you can’t win without good starting pitching. I can’t go along with the assumption that AJ will be better in 2011. He might actually be worse (i.e. drained of what little confidence in his ability he has left). Personally, I think it’s a big ask for Phil to win 18 games again this year. So if Andy P does retire as expected, what does that leave us with? One ace, one very promising youngster, one headcase and two unknown quantities. That doesn’t exactly fill you with confidence competing in the toughest division in baseball. And I think a lot of our fears are increased by the fact that there’s not a lot of starting pitching left out there. It seems as though it was Cliff Lee or bust for the Yanks this winter.

  37. 86w183 January 6th, 2011 at 1:27 pm

    It has been a pretty slow off-season, but keep in mind the busiest teams are trying to get as good as the Yankees already are. Boston, for example has committed more than $ 300 Million in new spending since missing the playoffs. Does the national media go bonkers over that? Hardly. But let the Yanks spend $$$$ after missing out in 2008 and its armageddon

  38. YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 1:31 pm

    QUOTE: “Cliff Lee didn’t want to be here.”
    —————————————

    1) neither did CC until the Yankees raised their already-best-by-far offer another $21 million.

  39. blake January 6th, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    Mlbnetwork did mention yesterday that the Red Sox have spent the most money this off season and that’s not even including he gonzalez extension but it is funny that there’s been no outrage that the Sox are ruining baseball as there was in the winter of 2008 when the Yankees spent big. Typical.

  40. heyman_sux January 6th, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    The 2009 Yankees won 103 games with a rotation of mainly CC/AJ/Andy/Joba/misc fluff. You can’t tell me this team is that much different.

    I understand not being overly optimistic, but much of the fear comes from the big name acquisitions of other teams who were already good (Sox/Phillies). But most of those fears are unwarranted bc really HOW much better did the Sox get? And barring a rematch in the series (which some apparently don’t even think is possible for the Yanks to reach), the Phillies don’t even play in the AL.

  41. YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    Given Cliff Lee whatever it took.
    —————————–
    That’s a creative solution. And it doesn’t indicate how you FORCE someone to accept an offer if they DON’T want to accept it.
    ——————————-
    Do you remember the CC Sabathia “negotiation,” or did you become a fan at the end of 2009?

  42. blake January 6th, 2011 at 1:35 pm

    The Sox only got significantly better if Pedroia, Drew, Ellsbury, Youkallks, etc can stay healthy and if Beckett, Lackey, and their bullpen don’t stink again……big ifs. Without those things Crawford an Gonzalez wont matter.

  43. Against All Odds January 6th, 2011 at 1:36 pm

    # blake January 6th, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    Mlbnetwork did mention yesterday that the Red Sox have spent the most money this off season and that’s not even including he gonzalez extension but it is funny that there’s been no outrage that the Sox are ruining baseball as there was in the winter of 2008 when the Yankees spent big. Typical.
    ——————————————

    Gotta love double standards. So much for the Red Sox being the little engine that could.

  44. 86w183 January 6th, 2011 at 1:38 pm

    The phrase give ____ whatever it takes implies a blank check which is beyond ridiculous.

    What if Cliff says, “I want the same contract A-Rod got”?????? You doin’ that?

  45. YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    QUOTE: “Gotta love double standards. So much for the Red Sox being the little engine that could.”
    —————————————————-
    That ship sailed LONG ago and, with the exception of some die-hards in Red Sox Nation, everybody, including the nat’l media has been talking about it for YEARS.

  46. heyman_sux January 6th, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    Do you remember the CC Sabathia ?negotiation,? or did you become a fan at the end of 2009?
    ____________

    CC’s free agency was the perfect storm. He was 27 – he was coming off a Cy Young-worthy season in which he carried a team to the playoffs – the Yankees were coming off a season where their pitching had failed MISERABLY, had no ace, and a retiring moose

    Conversely, Cliff Lee is 32 with a bad back, pitched well in 2 rounds of the playoffs but was NOT worth 20 mil in the regular season, and the Yanks already have CC. Oh, and he didn’t want to negotiate. It was pretty clear he didn’t want NY

  47. YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    I’d have stopped at about 8/185, and I believe 7/175 would have gotten it done.

  48. Mell January 6th, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    “Conversely, Cliff Lee is 32 with a bad back, pitched well in 2 rounds of the playoffs but was NOT worth 20 mil in the regular season”

    In fairness, the Yankees thought he was worth $20M plus a little more.

  49. YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    OK Heyman, I get it… You don’t think Lee was worth the $$$ and you don’t believe the Yankees needed him as badly as I do.

    That’s fine. Cashman obviously agrees with you.

    Now we can all sit back and see how far the Yankees can go with one reliable starter and a bunch of magic beans.

  50. heyman_sux January 6th, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    In fairness, the Yankees thought he was worth $20M plus a little more.

    _____

    Fair point, but we have to remember that CCs contract was record breaking. That Yankees offered what they did, despite Lee being a pitcher exiting the typical “prime years” shows they were serious. This time around, there were simply other suitors. And as i’ve pointed out in the past, he DID turn down $30M guaranteed by going to Philly. So if you offer 7/175 or 8/185, that doesn’t make him a lock to come to NY instead. He is where he wanted to be…

  51. 86w183 January 6th, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    Unless I’m mistaken the roster is not set for the 2011 season.

    Yes, the Yanks offered Lee a ton of money…. WAY too much for a 32-year-old in my opinion and $ 25 M a year for 7 or 8 would have been that much worse.

    We’ll see how it all plays out.

  52. Chip January 6th, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
    QUOTE: “Cliff Lee didn’t want to be here.”
    —————————————

    1) neither did CC until the Yankees raised their already-best-by-far offer another $21 million.

    ————————–

    The Yankees were already offering Cliff Lee the most money and he took LESS MONEY to sign elsewhere.

    When you get to a certain number a light goes off that says “The money that’s on the table now means my grandkids are pretty much set for life, I don’t need more money, wouldn’t it make more sense to go where I want to and be happy instead of chasing every penny?”

  53. heyman_sux January 6th, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    OK Heyman, I get it? You don?t think Lee was worth the $$$ and you don?t believe the Yankees needed him as badly as I do.

    That?s fine. Cashman obviously agrees with you.

    Now we can all sit back and see how far the Yankees can go with one reliable starter and a bunch of magic beans.
    ____________

    I live in an area dominated by Phillies fans so I hated seeing him go there. I would have been very pleased had the Yankees signed him. That being said, I just disagree with your opinion that Cashman is some type of moron for not offering him Fort Knox, or even that Lee would necessarily agree to sign regardless

  54. Mell January 6th, 2011 at 1:53 pm

    Heyman S:

    I agree. I don’t think he was worth $20M anyway. For my money, the contract the Yankees offered (as well as what Philly offered) was every bit as ridiculous as the Crawford and Werth deals.

  55. Erica in NY January 6th, 2011 at 1:54 pm

    Chip January 6th, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    The Yankees were already offering Cliff Lee the most money and he took LESS MONEY to sign elsewhere.

    ****************************

    I’ll look for Cliff Lee on the welfare line.

    Please.

    The guy still took a 25million deal. I think there reaches a point where money becomes like monopoly money and you go for what makes you happiest. Cliff Lee obviously decided that New York didn’t make him happiest. End of story

  56. Chip January 6th, 2011 at 1:57 pm

    YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
    OK Heyman, I get it… You don’t think Lee was worth the $$$ and you don’t believe the Yankees needed him as badly as I do.

    That’s fine. Cashman obviously agrees with you.

    Now we can all sit back and see how far the Yankees can go with one reliable starter and a bunch of magic beans.

    ————–

    How many reliable starters did the Texas Rangers have going into last season?

    Before Cliff Lee got there they were:

    CJ Wilson – converted from relief that spring
    Colby Lewis – out of baseball for 3 years
    Rich Harden – a guy with loads of talent and loads of injury woes
    Scott Feldman – a 26 year old with a career ERA over 5
    Tommy Hunter – entering his first full season

  57. Chip January 6th, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    Erica in NY January 6th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
    Chip January 6th, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    The Yankees were already offering Cliff Lee the most money and he took LESS MONEY to sign elsewhere.

    ****************************

    I’ll look for Cliff Lee on the welfare line.

    Please.

    The guy still took a 25million deal. I think there reaches a point where money becomes like monopoly money and you go for what makes you happiest. Cliff Lee obviously decided that New York didn’t make him happiest. End of story

    ——————–

    Isn’t that exactly what I said?

  58. Erica in NY January 6th, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    Chip-

    Yes. I realized that after I responded when I went back and read past the first sentance :-)

  59. rodg12 January 6th, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    # Chip January 6th, 2011 at 1:57 pm

    How many reliable starters did the Texas Rangers have going into last season?

    Before Cliff Lee got there they were:

    CJ Wilson – converted from relief that spring
    Colby Lewis – out of baseball for 3 years
    Rich Harden – a guy with loads of talent and loads of injury woes
    Scott Feldman – a 26 year old with a career ERA over 5
    Tommy Hunter – entering his first full season
    —————————————————–
    I get the point you’re trying to make here, Chip, and partially agree. However, the Rangers weren’t in the AL East. Just sayin…

  60. YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    QUOTE: “The Yankees were already offering Cliff Lee the most money and he took LESS MONEY to sign elsewhere.”
    ———————/—————
    The Yankees were already offering the most money to CC with their initial offer of 6/$140M… Why did they bump it?

    Also, the Yankees offer wasn’t any better than the Rangers offer, and might have been a little light.

  61. Chip January 6th, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    rodg12 January 6th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
    # Chip January 6th, 2011 at 1:57 pm

    How many reliable starters did the Texas Rangers have going into last season?

    Before Cliff Lee got there they were:

    CJ Wilson – converted from relief that spring
    Colby Lewis – out of baseball for 3 years
    Rich Harden – a guy with loads of talent and loads of injury woes
    Scott Feldman – a 26 year old with a career ERA over 5
    Tommy Hunter – entering his first full season
    —————————————————–
    I get the point you’re trying to make here, Chip, and partially agree. However, the Rangers weren’t in the AL East. Just sayin…

    —————

    They still got into the playoffs and beat the two teams from the AL East.

    Twins won the central with a rotation of:
    Pavano, Liriano, Blackburn, Baker

    Padres nearly won their division with a rotation of guys no one knew going into the season…

    Would I like to have a rotation of:
    CC, Lee, Greinke, Hughes and Andy – of course – but just because that isn’t going to be the case I’m not going to say “ho hum season’s over, fire Cashman” like NMore seems apt to do.

  62. Mike Ri January 6th, 2011 at 2:05 pm

    YankeesNmore-

    Don’t sweat it buddy !. believe me . . The Yankees will be fine . .if we don’t make a move now.. We’ll make one mid summer !.

  63. Pat M. January 6th, 2011 at 2:06 pm

    I would have been fine with Lee for 5 years 100 million as he could have provided 3 maybe 4 solid years before decline may set in……Beyond that his tenure gets dicey……That being said, he would have covered the window of opportunity for winning it all in the clubs rotation for those 3 years

  64. YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 2:06 pm

    QUOTE: “How many reliable starters did the Texas Rangers have going into last season?”
    —————————
    The Yankees don’t play in the AL West.

  65. Chip January 6th, 2011 at 2:07 pm

    YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
    QUOTE: “The Yankees were already offering Cliff Lee the most money and he took LESS MONEY to sign elsewhere.”
    ———————/—————
    The Yankees were already offering the most money to CC with their initial offer of 6/$140M… Why did they bump it?

    Also, the Yankees offer wasn’t any better than the Rangers offer, and might have been a little light.

    ————–

    Because Sabathia and Lee are different pitchers and also different people looking for different things.

    CC was younger, had no major or nagging injuries and he was looking for the money.

    Lee is older, has a bad back and wanted to pitch in Philly.

    If the Yankees and come up short of the offer he took I would say you had something, but that’s not the case. Cliff Lee did not want to pitch for the New York Yankees. He wanted to pitch for Philly. This isn’t a video game where you can move players around as you see fit. A guy has to want to come to your team for you to get him.

  66. heyman_sux January 6th, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    The Yankees were already offering the most money to CC with their initial offer of 6/$140M? Why did they bump it?

    Also, the Yankees offer wasn?t any better than the Rangers offer, and might have been a little light.
    _____

    They bumped it bc they had serious fears he didn’t want to go to NY. And at the time, the rotation was Andy/Joba/?/?/injured CMW.

    This go round they felt less inclined to do the same

  67. Chip January 6th, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
    QUOTE: “How many reliable starters did the Texas Rangers have going into last season?”
    —————————
    The Yankees don’t play in the AL West.

    ——————–

    No, they play in the AL East where Tampa has taken major losses to their roster. Boston has replaced the players they lost via FA but not taking a major step forward and the only key member of the Yankees to depart is Javy Vazquez.

  68. backbench January 6th, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    I’ll go on the record and say that Cashman has already made an important deal this offseason that will help the NYYs get better in a number of ways – Martin at catcher.

    1. He will help stop the stolen base problem, which IMHO will go a long way to settling AJ down. The 2009 AJ with Molina was dramatically better than the 2010 AJ with Cisco/Posada. This will help restore some strength to the SP rotation.

    2. Posada to DH full time (minus a few cameo appearances to rest Alex and others) will help the offense. It has been stated often that the NYYs needed Po’s bat in the lineup as often as possible, and I believe his having to sit because he no longer can be a first line catcher actuall hurt his BA. Watch for a big improvement there, assuming he can stay healthy of course.

  69. DaSaint007 January 6th, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
    I’d have stopped at about 8/185, and I believe 7/175 would have gotten it done.
    ————————————————–

    So you would have offered a 32 year old pitcher who recently had a bad back in 2010, EIGHT years – 8 years – and $185M??

    Now we know you don’t know what you’re talking about. You’re not even remotely realistic.
    Enjoy life.

  70. YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 2:10 pm

    So, Chip, I can assume you weren’t in favor of giving Cliff Lee any significant contract???

    Why would anybody give a 32YO with a “bad back” ANY big-$$$ deal???

  71. YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    QUOTE: “No, they play in the AL East where Tampa has taken major losses to their roster. Boston has replaced the players they lost via FA but not taking a major step forward and the only key member of the Yankees to depart is Javy Vazquez.”
    —————————————-
    is the weather nice in your world?

  72. Chip January 6th, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    heyman_sux January 6th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
    The Yankees were already offering the most money to CC with their initial offer of 6/$140M? Why did they bump it?

    Also, the Yankees offer wasn?t any better than the Rangers offer, and might have been a little light.
    _____

    They bumped it bc they had serious fears he didn’t want to go to NY. And at the time, the rotation was Andy/Joba/?/?/injured CMW.

    This go round they felt less inclined to do the same

    —————-

    That’s right.

    The Yankees that winter had lost Mussina, had gotten a horrible year out of Andy, Wang was hurt, Hughes and Kennedy had been awful and Joba was a questionmark too.

    This winter the Yankees were looking at replacing Javy Vazquez and maybe Andy as well. The need just wasn’t as great.

  73. Chip January 6th, 2011 at 2:13 pm

    YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
    So, Chip, I can assume you weren’t in favor of giving Cliff Lee any significant contract???

    Why would anybody give a 32YO with a “bad back” ANY big-$$$ deal???

    —————–

    I was fine with the notion of 5 years, cringed at 6 and was ready to vomit when I thought they were going to 7.

  74. 86w183 January 6th, 2011 at 2:14 pm

    Lee took fewer guaranteed total $$$, but he did take the highest annual salary. In essence he bet on his ability to be in demand in five years and it’s not a bat bet since he’ll be the highest paid pitcher in baseball in the five years between now and then.

    I’m not convinced Martin WILL help the Yanks control the running game better, but I certainly hope that he can. AJ needs to fix AJ, no one else can or will.

  75. YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 2:15 pm

    QUOTE: “… This go round they felt less inclined to do the same”
    —————————–
    No doubt Cashman did not feel any urgency to get Lee signed. Now let’s see how far they go.

  76. Chip January 6th, 2011 at 2:16 pm

    YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
    QUOTE: “No, they play in the AL East where Tampa has taken major losses to their roster. Boston has replaced the players they lost via FA but not taking a major step forward and the only key member of the Yankees to depart is Javy Vazquez.”
    —————————————-
    is the weather nice in your world?

    ——————

    Actually looking out my office window it’s a little gray and overcast.

    Tell me where I’m wrong.

    Tampa:
    Lost: Pena, Crawford, Bartlett, Benoit, Choate, Soriano, Balfour, Wheeler

    Added: ….

    Boston:
    Lost: Victor Martinez, Adrian Beltre

    Added: Carl Crawford, Adrian Gonzalez, Bobby Jenks, Dan Wheeler

    very splashy – I’ll grant you that – but they’re a weaker defensive team at 3b with Youk there instead of Beltre and they may have the worst catching group in MLB.

  77. DaSaint007 January 6th, 2011 at 2:18 pm

    I’m convinced that YankeesNmore just craves attention.
    No one in their right mind could sincerely expect Cashman to give Lee a blank check.

    In 2009 Lee was 14-13 3.22 ERA
    In 2010 Lee was 12-9 3.18 ERA

    He’s good, but not he’s certainly not like the second coming of Sandy Koufax or Gibson, as some have made him out to be. Shoot, he ain’t even Nolan Ryan. Pardon my slang.

    Frankly, I didn’t think he was worth more than – gasp – $20M/year, and I’m not sure that in hindsight some years from now, many of us are going to scratch our heads and think ‘what were we thinking wanting the Yankees to offer that guy so much money?’. Time will tell.

  78. YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 2:18 pm

    QUOTING CHIP: “I was fine with the notion of 5 years.”
    ——————————–
    But Chip! Why on EARTH would you want to give “a 32-year-old pitcher with a bad back” 5 years and more than $100 million???!!!!

    You’re contradicting yourself.

  79. Chip January 6th, 2011 at 2:22 pm

    YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
    QUOTE: “How many reliable starters did the Texas Rangers have going into last season?”
    —————————
    The Yankees don’t play in the AL West.

    ——————

    By the way – my point isn’t that the Rangers won with a pile of scrap pitchers – it is that you should check out what those pitchers actually did before assuming you can’t get anything from a “sack of magic beans”

  80. Chip January 6th, 2011 at 2:22 pm

    YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
    QUOTING CHIP: “I was fine with the notion of 5 years.”
    ——————————–
    But Chip! Why on EARTH would you want to give “a 32-year-old pitcher with a bad back” 5 years and more than $100 million???!!!!

    You’re contradicting yourself.

    —————————

    No I’m not and I think you’re probably smart enough to know that but right now you’re just acting like a giant arse.

  81. backbench January 6th, 2011 at 2:23 pm

    “AJ needs to fix AJ, no one else can or will.”

    True enough, but there is no question that the NYYs FO and coaching staff are interested in smart moves to help him along. Slowing the running game, something that does weigh on his mind, is one area for improvement.

  82. Chip January 6th, 2011 at 2:26 pm

    YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
    QUOTING CHIP: “I was fine with the notion of 5 years.”
    ——————————–
    But Chip! Why on EARTH would you want to give “a 32-year-old pitcher with a bad back” 5 years and more than $100 million???!!!!

    You’re contradicting yourself.

    ———-

    But if you really want me to spell it out for you like you’re some sort of child I will.

    I would gamble on him being able to be relatively effective and healthy between now and age 35 and would accept the fact that I’m going to get 2 years where he’s probably going to be diminished.

    I would not be willing to accept 4 or 5 years of diminished performance at huge money for 3 of productivity.

  83. Wave Your Hat January 6th, 2011 at 2:26 pm

    Early days yet but Replacement Level Yankee Weblog’s CAIRO projections are out:

    http://www.rlyw.net/index.php/....._standings

    Red Sox 98 wins
    Yanks 89 wins
    Tampa 87 wins

    The Red Sox have a roster closer to final than the Yanks or the Rays so the gap probably isn’t that big.

    Haven’t seen the other projection systems yet.

  84. Against All Odds January 6th, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    Chip January 6th, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    The need just wasn’t as great.

    ————————————-

    The need just wasn’t as great but yet the offered him the money and yrs that they did. Despite the belief the Yankees needed Lee their desperation spoke volumes.

  85. YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    QUOTE: “you should check out what those pitchers actually did before assuming you can’t get anything from a “sack of magic beans” ”
    ————————————————-
    I have never assumed any such thing. I do find it ridiculous, however, that a team with all the resources the New York Yankees have should be finding themselves in the position of being forced to upon them so heavily.

    And that’s on Cashman.

  86. YsGuy January 6th, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    how did they’re projections for last year come out? did they have seattle winning it all?

  87. heyman_sux January 6th, 2011 at 2:28 pm

    I’m convinced last season AJ just missed Jose Molina whispering sweet nothings in his ear during those mound visits.

  88. DaSaint007 January 6th, 2011 at 2:29 pm

    WYH,

    Before I comment, I’m wondering what RLY projections were for those same teams last year?

  89. YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    That should have read being forced to COUNT upon them (magic beans) so heavily.

  90. Chip January 6th, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
    QUOTE: “you should check out what those pitchers actually did before assuming you can’t get anything from a “sack of magic beans” ”
    ————————————————-
    I have never assumed any such thing. I do find it ridiculous, however, that a team with all the resources the New York Yankees have should be finding themselves in the position of being forced to upon them so heavily.

    And that’s on Cashman.

    ——————–

    How is it on Cashman?

    Should he have photoshopped some pictures of Lee with a goat and blackmailed him into signing with the Yankees?

    Things don’t always work out the way you would like – even in Yankeeland. Stop acting like a spoiled brat – not just you.

  91. West Coast Yankee Fan January 6th, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    I feel Cashman’s obnoxious comment the other day about not caring what the fans think is nonsense. He hears what’s being said. I think he will sign Soriano; he cannot do nothing.

  92. Chip January 6th, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
    That should have read being forced to COUNT upon them (magic beans) so heavily.

    ————————–

    It’s not Cashman’s fault that Andy may retire
    It’s not Cashman’s fault that after Lee the most “talented” pitchers on the market this winter were Vazquez and Pavano

    I’m sure Brian would love to swing deals for Josh Johnson and Felix Hernandez but that’s not possible.

  93. Wave Your Hat January 6th, 2011 at 2:34 pm

    “Before I comment, I’m wondering what RLY projections were for those same teams last year?”

    Not that it is meaningful in any way, but at approximately the same time last year RLYW was projecting:

    Yanks 100 wins
    Sox 95 wins
    Rays 89 wins

  94. Mike Ri January 6th, 2011 at 2:34 pm

    WCYF-

    I feel Cashman?s obnoxious comment the other day about not caring what the fans think is nonsense. He hears what?s being said. I think he will sign Soriano; he cannot do nothing

    —————————-
    Got to be honest.. Cashmans statement kind of bothered me a bit. I think he could have choosen his words a little different. Even if you don’t care what we FANS think… keep it to yourself.

  95. YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 2:34 pm

    And by the way, for those with short memories, 2011 marks the second time in the last four years Brian Cashman has put the Yankees in the position of having to count on so many unknowns in the rotation.

    Remember how 2008 worked out?

    And this from a GM who has the greatest resources and highest payroll in baseball history.

    Ridiculous

  96. Chip January 6th, 2011 at 2:34 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan January 6th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
    I feel Cashman’s obnoxious comment the other day about not caring what the fans think is nonsense. He hears what’s being said. I think he will sign Soriano; he cannot do nothing.

    ———————–

    I think Cashman used a poor choice of words but I don’t disagree with the sentiment. In his job you can’t act like a fan. You can’t get all freaked out by what other teams are doing and make rash judgements – that leads to big mistakes and – more often than not will cost a GM his job.

    I think he’ll do what he always has done – what he’s been successful doing – if Soriano comes in at a price that makes sense – he’ll sign him. If not, he’ll pass.

  97. Chip January 6th, 2011 at 2:36 pm

    YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
    And by the way, for those with short memories, 2011 marks the second time in the last four years Brian Cashman has put the Yankees in the position of having to count on so many unknowns in the rotation.

    Remember how 2008 worked out?

    And this from a GM who has the greatest resources and highest payroll in baseball history.

    Ridiculous

    —————–

    High payrolls don’t mean you’re going to win – if they did the Mets would be in the World Series every year.

  98. DaSaint007 January 6th, 2011 at 2:39 pm

    In case anyone forgets:
    Lee w/Seattle 8-3 2.34 ERA
    Lee w/Texas 4-6 3.98 ERA

    Total 12-9 3.18 ERA

    My LAST comment on this Lee ship as it’s already sailed: Had this been another pitcher, say De La Rosa or Edwin Jackson, or anyone, pick a g-d-name, no one would have advocated spending that kind of dough on this guy.

    In 9 years pitching, he’s proven that he’s a good pitcher overall. Good, but certainly not great.
    Of course, being a lefty makes him more valuable, just because, but even with that, in my book, he doesn’t even deserve to walk in the shadow of, nor sniff the proximity of CC’s contract.

    JMO of course. :-)

    Next issue. This Cliff Lee thing is so 2010.

  99. Mell January 6th, 2011 at 2:39 pm

    WCYF:

    I’ve always felt Cashman was a pretty arrogant guy, who got even moreso when he was given the only set of keys to the car. That said, I’d interpret what he said there as him sticking to the mantra of patience when it comes to improving the team. It came out the wrong way, but I think he appreciates the fanbase as much as anyone. He was merely saying that he can’t let fan sentiment influence how he runs the organization. I think he’s 100% right about that.

  100. austinmac January 6th, 2011 at 2:39 pm

    Blake,

    I agree with your earlier point that pitching will be very costly in terms of trade until we near the trade deadline. Cashman’s patience to add starters must last until late July.

    People ask what should he have done differently. It is Cashman’s job to anticipate the Lee and Pettitte possible outcomes. I thought he should have done all he could at the winter meetings or before to acquire a pitcher. Maybe he did, but I suspect he was waiting and hoping.

  101. YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 2:39 pm

    QUOTE: “How is it on Cashman?”
    ————————————–
    not just about Lee… About the overall… And the overall is this:

    Cashman is the GM of a team with more money/resources than any other team can dream of, and they have ONE reliable starting pitcher.

  102. MConti January 6th, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    I love the baseball prospectus article on espn.com regarding the “flawless” Red Sox. I wish Yankee players would all be project to perform at their peak levels too… here was my post to that article:

    “Ellsbury by most defensive metrics is putrid out there, hence the reason they signed a 37 yr old Mike Cameron to a 2 year deal. The rotation beyond Lester, doesn’t necessarily strike fear into the hearts of opponents.

    I’m always amused when the Red Sox are championed as a near flawless team where not a single player will regress and everyone will return to their statistically best year.”

  103. YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    QUOTE: “High payrolls don’t mean you’re going to win – if they did the Mets would be in the World Series every year.”
    ———————————
    Didn’t their GM just get fired?

  104. Chip January 6th, 2011 at 2:43 pm

    YankeesNmore January 6th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
    QUOTE: “How is it on Cashman?”
    ————————————–
    not just about Lee… About the overall… And the overall is this:

    Cashman is the GM of a team with more money/resources than any other team can dream of, and they have ONE reliable starting pitcher.

    ————–

    But again the question is – what can he do differently?

    He can’t force Andy to pitch
    Couldn’t force Lee to come here

    He can’t tell other GM’s “I’m Brian Cashman – trade me your best pitchers because I say so.”

    The good pitchers didn’t make it to the market – Beckett, Halladay, Lilly – they were all re-signed before Free Agency opened.

    And if he did deal all of his top prospects for pitching now then a year from now people like you would want to run him out of town because the team got old and he didn’t have any young players to replace his aging stars with…

  105. Wave Your Hat January 6th, 2011 at 2:44 pm

    YanksNmore-

    What’s with this “QUOTE” thing?

  106. Mell January 6th, 2011 at 2:44 pm

    “I’m always amused when the Red Sox are championed as a near flawless team where not a single player will regress and everyone will return to their statistically best year.”

    Aside from Buchholtz, there aren’t a whole lot of regression candidates in Boston.

  107. DaSaint007 January 6th, 2011 at 2:45 pm

    Wave Your Hat January 6th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
    “Before I comment, I’m wondering what RLY projections were for those same teams last year?”

    Not that it is meaningful in any way, but at approximately the same time last year RLYW was projecting:

    2010
    Yanks 100 wins
    Sox 95 wins
    Rays 89 wins
    —————————————
    2011
    Red Sox 98 wins: +3
    Yanks 89 wins: -11
    Tampa 87 wins: -2

    Ok, considering the boston rotation hasn’t changed, and they’ve lost Beltre and VMart, yet added Crawford and AGon, I can’t see an increase in 3 games. To me it’s a wash.

    With the Yankee rotation as currently stands, without Andy, and with Mitre and Nova, -11 may be reasonable. That’s why another starter and/or Andy are needed.

    Tampa losing their entire bullpen including Soriano, yet they only are down 2 wins? Don’t buy it.

  108. Doreen January 6th, 2011 at 2:45 pm

    How important would voice activated navigation versus touch screen navigation be to anyone out there?

  109. Erica in NY January 6th, 2011 at 2:48 pm

    Doreen January 6th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
    How important would voice activated navigation versus touch screen navigation be to anyone out there?

    ******************

    I have recently discovered that my cell phone has turn by turn voice navigation.

    All I cared about in my car was satellite radio and 4-wheel drive

  110. West Coast Yankee Fan January 6th, 2011 at 2:48 pm

    Chip – there are many fans that don’t support making rash moves that also have very legitimate criticisms of Cashman’s performance as a GM.

    That statement should not have been made, the fans are the ones who buy tickets and watch YES and buy merchandise and beer.

    It is indicative of Yankee management arrogance. You saw that manifest itself throughout the Jeter situation.

  111. Mike Ri January 6th, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    How important would voice activated navigation versus touch screen navigation be to anyone out there?

    ————-

    I have a Touch in my Dodge Challenger SRT8 .. and its sweet.. My buddy has voice in his Lexus.. and sometimes it doesn’t pick up his voice… PLUS if you lvoe music. ..its even tougher

    just my 2 cents..

  112. DaSaint007 January 6th, 2011 at 2:50 pm

    Doreen,

    Voice activated navigation may be a good feature if it allows you to talk to the system while you’re driving. My Jeep has a touch screen system that while I really like it, won’t let you input your destination while driving. Even if it’s the passenger who is attempting to enter the destination. You have to be at a complete stop. So I type quickly at red lights. ;-)

  113. West Coast Yankee Fan January 6th, 2011 at 2:52 pm

    I love me some Susan Slusser!

    “I will not vote for any player connected with steroid use, because I believe cheaters shouldn’t be rewarded with the sport’s highest honor,” Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle said in an e-mail.

    “We are asked to consider character when casting Hall of Fame votes and I don’t believe those who used performance-enhancing substances meet that standard,” she said. “They cheated to get ahead, plain and simple, creating an imbalance in the game and a mess for the voters. They can enjoy the big contracts they earned as a result, but they won’t get my vote.”

  114. DaSaint007 January 6th, 2011 at 2:53 pm

    Cashman and management can be and often are arrogant, and that I don’t like. He should have kept those comments to himself, or made some PC comment like “we’re always working behind the scenes so that our fans will have the best possible team each season. It’s difficult negotiating with my peers because they always want the top prospects, which I try to protect, but we’re always seeking to make this team better”

  115. YsGuy January 6th, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    cairo also had the mariners winning the west last year and the giants finishing 4th.

  116. Erica in NY January 6th, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    new thread :arrow:

  117. Pat M. January 6th, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    Wave…I bet every season on the over / unders and I’ll wait until the Vegas lines come out….I always beat those projected lines posted by RYL and some of the other stat head publications by 70 %….It’s the boys in Vegas that you pay attention to……Money does talk

  118. Doreen January 6th, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    Thanks guys.

    5 years ago, I passed on navigation and bluetooth, but my driving circumstances have changed. I wouldn’t have even considered voice navigation, but got the demonstration of it. Then I thought about having to touch a screen while driving – and DaSaint007, what you said makes sense, and is probably how it works – you could not redirect the touch screen while driving, which would be safer.

    Mike Ri, my husband got me a bluetooth earpiece for Christmas and I’m having trouble getting it to understand, “Call Home.” :lol:

    Thanks, again everyone.

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