Yankees mourn former all-star Ryne Duren
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 07, 2011 
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Former Yankees all-star Ryne Duren died at his home in Florida on Thursday. The family announced the passing today. Duren was 80 years old.
“Ryne could throw the heck out of the ball,” Yogi Berra said in a statement released by the Yankees. “He threw fear in some hitters. I remember he had several pair of glasses but it didn’t seem like he saw good in any of them. He added a lot of life to the Yankees and it was sad his drinking shortened his career. I’m sorry to learn of his passing.”
Here’s the obituary from The Associated Press.
LAKE WALES, Fla. (AP) — Ryne Duren, an All-Star pitcher known for a 100 mph fastball, occasional wildness and thick glasses that created an intimidating presence of the pitcher’s mound, has died at his winter home in Florida. He was 81.
Duren died Thursday, stepson Mark Jackson said Friday.
An All-Star in three seasons, Duren played for the New York Yankees and six other teams during a big league career from 1954-65. He went 27-44 with a 3.83 ERA in 311 appearances, all but 32 in relief. He helped the Yankees win AL pennants in 1958 and 1960 and was 1-1 with a 2.03 ERA in five World Series games.
Duren was with the Yankees from 1958-61 and also played for Baltimore, the Kansas City Athletics, Los Angeles Angels, Cincinnati, Philadelphia and Washington.
Associated Press photo
RIP Rino.
For those interested in the 2011 player draft order and some of the top choices:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2…..ball_Draft
“They weren’t aware that they mislead the Yankees until after the draft. They thought they made it very clear that he was going to college, even though he liked the Yankees and wanted to paly for them someday.
I read a long article about this a while back, and remember how Cole described his summer before the draft as one of awe and being overwhelmed at the attention and all-star games he was invited into. He really explained well how he was just not ready emotionally, and wanted to mature a little more before leaving home.”
Link? Because everything I have read has been contra.
Ryne Duran was the first player that Ralph Houk knocked out when he managed Duran in Denver. Duran was wild, tended to pitch when hung over and would uncork a high 90s fastball on his first warm-up pitch and if nobody was on base, to the first hitter he faced. Scary guy for hitters but fun to watch. spent a lot of his post retirement years working as an alcoholism counselor. He said he knew he was in trouble when he parked his car on a railroad track and waited for a train to hit him.
Mell here are the comps I think the Yankees would use in winning an arbitration case to get Hughes at 3 mil or under:
“Matt Garza got 3.3 mil with more innings and a better year and a better track record.”
“John Danks got 3 mil, and he was better and more left handed than Hughes. ”
“Zach Miner got 900k after throwing 110 innings of 4.28 ERA.”
David Price making 1.8 million
“Wang got exactly 4 million after throwing 417 IP of 3.67 era ball. ”
“Carmona avoided arbitration and got only 2.75 mil in his first arbitration year in the deal for throwing 200 IP and a 3 ERA.”
“Ricky Nolasco only got 2.4 mil for 15 – 8 , 200 IP 3.52 ERA”
GB7 if you copy and paste your post with a URL in it , the URl won’t work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2.....ball_Draft
Here is the link
http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/0.....f-at-ucla/
Ryan Duren like Mark Wohlers with control. RIP.
Zambrano-If the Yankees have to take on the $$$$, plus throw in extra $$ to get him to waive his NTC, then let them throw in lefty Sean Marshall, and let him vie for a spot in the rotation. I think Pettitte is through!
Need a righty bat who can play OF, though erratically. Bring back Gary Sheffield or Jermaine Dye!!!!
No Soriano, no sweat, trade for Soria.
Ask Roberto Alomar who at 42 is 1 year younger than Omar Vazquel, if he can play on a one year contract!!!
GB7
I got your reply to my comment, I wouldve commented back then but I fell asleep. I promise to not distract any players especially the good ones. But I’ve got a really pretty friend who comes with me sometimes so I can’t speak for her. Lyerly looks like he will be good though, I guess moving him to the outfield will depend on the team needs and if he doesn’t seem to get better. Ill still miss Suttle though, even though he always come up to bat when the game was on the line and hardly ever came through.
and this 1 too
http://www.maxpreps.com/news/n.....t-cole.htm
BoJo
From the link:
“We were led to believe by the family that he was not interested in signing with everybody, but he would be very interested in signing with us because we were his favorite team and a lot of things like that,” Yankees scouting director Damon Oppenheimer told FanHouse on Wednesday. “Over the course of the summer, they obviously had a change of heart.
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Said Cole: “It was the plan going into the draft, to go to college. The word was out there, and everybody knew. So, I can’t answer what happened there. We just stuck with our plan and became a Bruin. I still follow the Yankees. My dad grew up in New York. We’re both kind of New York fans. Still follow the Yankees. Not on bad terms with Damon Oppenheimer — great guy.”
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I believe Oppenheimer because what he says just makes too much sense.
check out this article on former gm joe molloy
http://www.americanwaymag.com/.....einbrenner
RIP Ryne Duren.
talk about chauncey gardiner in Being There
I was not scouted or drafted at baseball, but from all the articles I’ve read about it, players have pretty regular contact with clubs who are looking to draft them. They will talk to the area scout, the cross checker, the regional scout, and the scouting director and general manager.
Damon Oppenheimer is not going to see Cole and go “YEA WE ARE TOTALLY DRAFTING HIM!” without a good indication that signing him is possible.
Most times kids go back to school because the money is not what they are looking for. I think it is rare that no amount of negotiation will sway someone.
That is why I believe Oppenheimer and not Cole in these articles.
Rated 5.0 out of 5.0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgGvd1UPZ88
Peter Sellers as Chauncey Gardiner
tyanksfan36 January 7th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
GB7
I got your reply to my comment, I wouldve commented back then but I fell asleep. I promise to not distract any players especially the good ones. But I’ve got a really pretty friend who comes with me sometimes so I can’t speak for her. Lyerly looks like he will be good though, I guess moving him to the outfield will depend on the team needs and if he doesn’t seem to get better. Ill still miss Suttle though, even though he always come up to bat when the game was on the line and hardly ever came through.
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Suttle’s still in the system, so, you can cheer him on in Trenton,, TY. Just keep an eye on your friend. No running on the field to hug and kiss Lyerly.
GB7
Do they have the Trenton games on the radio online? I know Tampa is like the only one that doesn’t. If anything I can listen to the games online to keep up with all my favorites who are moving up.
Buyer beware on stadium beers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xSDI9Gg63I
never buy beer at a stadium
That reminds of something from a cognitive development psych class where kids who are in what Piaget called the concrete operational stage, when presented with two containers that have the same amount of liquid, mistakenly think the higher of the two containers has more liquid. But maybe it’s not just kids.
Bill Madden wrote an article after we failed to sign Cole that his father is a millionaire, so they wouldn’t be enamored with money and the Yankees misjudged his situation.
mick January 7th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
never buy beer at a stadium
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You can’t actually buy it…only rent it.
That’s funny, but where can you get a large beer for just 1.25 or whatever it was more than a small. Its 3 dollars at Tropicana and then you(well I) end up spilling it all over when the people in your row get up 30 times in the time it takes to drink it.
tyanksfan36 January 7th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
GB7
Do they have the Trenton games on the radio online? I know Tampa is like the only one that doesn’t. If anything I can listen to the games online to keep up with all my favorites who are moving up
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TY, yes they do. The Charleston, Staten Island, Trenton and Scranton teams are all on http://www.MiLB.com for free on the radio feeds. You can get a lot of the Scranton games and some Trenton games on MiLB-TV for about $30 a year. Also get the Winter League series games
BX33 January 7th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
Bill Madden wrote an article after we failed to sign Cole that his father is a millionaire, so they wouldn’t be enamored with money and the Yankees misjudged his situation.
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Ifyou get a chance to read the 2nd article I posted, Cole talks about his feeling that he was too immature to sign yet, and wasn’t ready for pro ball. I think that was the bigger issue.
I think I would give the same advice to a son…that it would be best to sign when you are ready to deal with the travel, the loneliness and frustration, etc than to sign too soon and give up because you aren’t ready.
I think everyone who can (and have the aptitude) should go to college, but that’s a separate issue from engaging in behavior (or authorizing others) to mislead a team that drafts you. And I’m blaming the father, not the son.
Anyway, all this talk about Gerrit Cole is pure speculation on my part. Certainly nothing is known, but just a hunch that this would be the only reason I could imagine Cashman being so adamant about saving that pick.
The main point before this distraction was that if it is so important to save, Cashman should let Boras help him in structuring a sign and trade to get Soriano and keep the pick (which interestingly will lead to drafting and signing a Boras client).
All for the real main purpose of allowing Cashman to put Joba back in rotation and stick to his strategy of building rotation through internal development process.
It’s all tied in…if Cashman is serious about that strategy, he should work to make it happen.
Rich–
I don’t know who to believe or if there really is anyone to blame…other than a simple misunderstanding or miscommunication. Not sure there was any malice involved.
Rich
I took an elementary math class last semester and we did a lesson on volume, our professor gave us 5 containers and we had to put them in order of which held the most water to the least, what we didn’t find out until we filled them is they all held the same amount. Though the beer cups I’ve seen look like they really hold a different amount.
jerkface-
The analysts who know it all are saying $3.5M+ for Hughes. I have to figure at least $2M for Joba and Logan. That’s how I get to the $5.5M figure for the over/under on the three in arbitration. I take it you are going with the under?
WYH–
And your quick analysis shows why Joba should want to be a starter more than a reliever, and will walk as soon as he can if not given the chance.
Good night all
Bojo
Obviously, I don’t know what happened, but given that people in Oppenheimer’s position can have careers turn on such “assurances,” I tend to think that Oppenheimer had a reasonable basis for his understanding.
tyanksfan36
Maybe he was preparing you to be more prepared you for shady beer sales?
tyanksfan36
Maybe he was preparing you to be more prepared you for shady beer sales?
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I mangled that, but I think you get the idea…
Some Yankee non-news.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....g-pitching
Try it again
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....ching.html
Joe Molloy and Jessica’s daughter is working in the Yankee organization now and their son has expressed interest in being the next generation heir apparent to the board room.
Rich
Yeah I got it, I butcher things on here a lot.