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Saturday notes and links

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 08, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Yesterday, Brian Cashman said he’s not willing to lose a first-round draft pick to sign any free agent still on the market. However, Jon Heyman reported today that he’s hearing that the Yankees are still in the mix for Rafael Soriano. Guess we’ll have to wait and see.

Some other links and notes from the day:

• The Daily News is reporting that Joe Torre is in talks to become Major League Baseball’s executive vice president of operations. Doubt anyone will be especially surprised to see Torre end up in the league’s front office.

• Following a report that the Yankees have started talking with Andruw Jones, The Yankee U — can’t use the word Universe — looked into Jones’ value as a Marcus Thames replacement. Jones has become a very Thames-like hitter, but with a better glove.

• Here’s an interesting quote from Lance Berkman about his time with the Yankees. It comes from several months ago, when the season was still going on. It’s easy to understand why Berkman wanted to get back to the National League. He didn’t enjoy the DH experience.

• Dave Cameron makes the case that the Rays trade of Matt Garza might make them better, not only in the future, but in the immediate here and now. This Marc Topkin report seems to support that theory: The Rays will spend that money they saved on Garza to boost the lineup and bullpen.

• This morning I wrote that the George Steinbrenner statue in Tampa is made of brass. It’s actually made of bronze. I actually remember double checking the article to make sure I had that it correct, and I apparently I still managed to read the word “bronze” and see the word “brass.” Strange. Sorry about that.

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162 Responses to “Saturday notes and links”

  1. BoJo January 8th, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    That Boras has something up his sleeve…Hope it is a sign and trade.

  2. BoJo January 8th, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    Interesting that Boras would tell Heyman that ChiSox are out of it…Angels won’t be in it either given owner’s hate for Boras.

  3. Rich in NJ January 8th, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    I really don’t want Andruw Jones.

  4. BoJo January 8th, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    Read the Jones analysis earlier, but after watching him play on MLB Network last season, I would pass.

    He really struggled after a decent start, and that seems to be the pattern the last 2 years.

    Would still prefer Scott Hairston in that role, or Golson, Baird, or Russo.

  5. Triple Short of a Cycle January 8th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    Unreal Seahawk game. So glad Shockey goes home early. Now lets go Colts

  6. BoJo January 8th, 2011 at 8:04 pm

    Re: the discussion of Yankee pitching prospects from prior thread…

    It seems to me that any B or A candidate has to come with at least a 94mph fastball with ability to touch 97…B level.

    An A level adds a plus curve or slider and a decent change.

    I say this because Cash and his team love the power arms (for play-offs, they think power arms win series). Thus anyone not having that arsenal is just trade fodder.

  7. Jerkface January 8th, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    is tERA in fangraphs park adjusted ERA ?

    their glossary sucks

    tERA is created from a pitchers line drive rate, ground ball rate, and fly ball rate. Its not park adjusted, its just based on what kind of results the pitcher gets on his balls in play, not the actual result of where those balls go.

  8. BoJo January 8th, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    A level
    Baneulos
    Betances

    A-/B+ level
    Brackman
    Ivan Nova
    Noesi
    Adam Warren (end of rotation of middle relief)

    B level
    DePaula
    Jose A. Ramirez
    Graham Stoneburner (relief)

    B- Level
    Brett Marshall
    Bryan Mitchell

    Trade fodder
    DJ Mitchell

  9. randy l. January 8th, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    jerkface-

    thanks.

    where is the best place to look for park adjusted ERA ?

  10. Tom in N.J. January 8th, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    Isn’t BR’s ERA+ park adjusted?

  11. BoJo January 8th, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    http://www.baseball-reference......itch.shtml

    Look at ERA+

  12. BoJo January 8th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    Also, look at the Neutralized pitching analysis at bottom…

    Shows Z is just a so-so pitcher at this stage…I’d rather see Joba get the shot.

  13. blake January 8th, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    I think it’s tough to put labels on a lot of pitching prospects…especially the ones that haven’t reached AA yet but one thing is for sure, the Yanks have a lot of depth and some very interesting arms in their farm system. IMO until we see how all these guys pan out, its a little premature to judge how the Yankees “new way of doing things” is working.

  14. austinmac January 8th, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    Chad, I’ll never have faith in you again when you discuss metals. :)

  15. J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    Rich in NJ January 8th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
    I really don’t want Andruw Jones.

    ////

    I don’t understand why Jones has so degenerated.he was crazy good once.
    BTW your comment that Jeter doesn’t have a lot of errors because of his lack of range is only a partial truth,and those are the ones that are deceptive.

    Derek Jeter DOESN’T. BOOT. PLAYS. He just doesn’t do it,and to not include that in yr reasoning for why he doesn’t have a lot of errors is either a HUGE oversight, incredibly naive,or deliberately misleading.

  16. BoJo January 8th, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
    ++++++++++
    Pasta?

  17. Jerkface January 8th, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    Derek Jeter DOESN’T. BOOT. PLAYS. He just doesn’t do it,and to not include that in yr reasoning for why he doesn’t have a lot of errors is either a HUGE oversight, incredibly naive,or deliberately misleading.

    Ok but wouldn’t you have to look at all the other errors by short stops and see how many are related to trying to make an above average play?

  18. BoJo January 8th, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    Jeter wins gold gloves because he is os sure handed and makes the DP and most plays he gets to.

    Also, he is very sharp on the field and doesn’t miss a beat.

    He’ll make up for he decrease in range with his knowledge of where to play, and his rock solid steadiness.

  19. Rich in NJ January 8th, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    ?BTW your comment that Jeter doesn’t have a lot of errors because of his lack of range is only a partial truth,and those are the ones that are deceptive.

    Derek Jeter DOESN’T. BOOT. PLAYS. He just doesn’t do it,and to not include that in yr reasoning for why he doesn’t have a lot of errors is either a HUGE oversight, incredibly naive,or deliberately misleading.?

    Why do you feel the need to impute a nefarious motive?

    The point was made in the context of a discussion about a player, Brooks Robinson, with a lot of range.

    Obviously, Jeter is sure-handed, but I would have thought that’s a given to the people who read this blog. So I don’t think there is a need to post that in every discussion about Jeter’s defense.

    As such there is no credible issue of deception.

    Just taking a quick look at Jeter’s errors over his career, without digging deeper to see if there is any real validity:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....t=fielding

    Jeter’s errors have largely gone down over the years.

    Is that because he has become more sure-handed, or does is it reflect that his range has declined? IDK.

    What also should be obvious is that Jeter has been a very good to great player.

    The point of contention is over what he has left.

    I think that’s a fair topic for discussion, particularly in the context of his free agency and subsequent contract negotiations.

    Apparently, you don’t. I want try to assess your motives though.

  20. Jerkface January 8th, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    Jeters errors cut in half the moment Tex joins the team, coincidence?

  21. Rich in NJ January 8th, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    That’s a good point.

  22. J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    baseball IQ isn’t quantifiable,Bojo,therefore it does not exist :D.

  23. GreenBeret7 January 8th, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    Robinson was best at goimg to the foul line and coming in on bunts. He didn’t go deep down the foul lines or into the outfield and not a lot of range going into the third/short hole. He coyld get away with that because he had 3 shortstops with very good to great range…Hanson, Aparicio and Belanger. His arm wasn’t that strong but he was accurate and got the throw off fast. Clete Boyer was a shortstop that played third base. He was that good.

  24. J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    Why do you feel the need to impute a nefarious motive?

    ////
    A HUGE oversight wouldn’t qualify as nefarious. His diminishing range I acknowledged, which is why your comment is a partial truth, which means it is an incomplete truth, which means it really isn’t necessarily the truth.

  25. Pat M. January 8th, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    Jets are going to blow up the Colts defense in the 2nd half

  26. J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    Jerkface January 8th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
    Jeters errors cut in half the moment Tex joins the team, coincidence?

    ///

    The rest of the infield has benefited from Tex’s presence, just as they were penalized through the Giambi years.

  27. tyanksfan36 January 8th, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    They made the point about Jeters errors going down when Tex joined the team on the Best First Baseman special on MLB Network.

    Before 2010 I was only able to see the Yankees play in Spring Training or when they played the Rays(blah) and the occasional cable showing. I bought mlb.tv this season and was able to watch Tex(and everyone else) all the time and he really impressed me, at first I thought he was just another overpaid overhyped player but he was way better than I expected even knowing he had 2 gold gloves before coming to the Yankees and his other stats..

    They commented that an SS or 3rd baseman feels more confident knowing the guy at first has good range which Tex definitely has, I liked the comment Tex made when asked about Jeters gold glove in that what is the point of making it to a ball if you’re going to throw it away, then instead of the guy being on first he is on 2nd. Jeter makes the plays he gets to and knows he can make.

    Sorry that was a lot, I’m watching Aladdin and getting sidetracked so hopefully it makes sense.

  28. Rich in NJ January 8th, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    “A HUGE oversight wouldn’t qualify as nefarious. His diminishing range I acknowledged, which is why your comment is a partial truth, which means it is an incomplete truth, which means it really isn’t necessarily the truth.”

    Bull. I’m not writing a treatise, I’m posting a quick comment on a blog.

    If I typed every contextual fact every time I posted, I would rightly be accused of being ostentatiously pedantic.

  29. CompassRosy January 8th, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    # joeman January 8th, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    Seahawks..WOW!!!!
    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    WOW is right!

    I was at the game today…
    just hoping against hope that the Hawks could somehow manage to play a good game and at least not embarrass themselves. But … holy cats – THAT was FUN!!!

    Lots of Saints fans in the crowd early on yelling, “Who dat?”
    And, to them, we now answer …

    SEA dat?
    WE dat!

    Never felt so good to have my throat hurt so bad ;-)

  30. J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    Rich,

    Here are the facts: Jeter’s getting older, his range has diminished. He was never a great “range” short stop to begin with, but he has been a great player, which you acknowledge (not that this should be hard to do). His errors are not merely the result of a lack of range, they are also a credit to his ability to stay focused and be as sure-handed a player as there is. As for you being a pedant, I’m sorry you feel that way. I certainly did not make such an accusation.

  31. tyanksfan36 January 8th, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    CompassRosy

    Congrats on your team winning. My friend, a Saints fan was livid that they lost but since my team, the TB Bucs, placed 10-6 and didn’t make the playoffs at all, I didn’t feel bad.
    Hopefully beating the Saints is a springboard for them and they make it to the Superbowl.

  32. Nick in SF January 8th, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    2 key factors in Seahawks win:

    1) Jack Z is not affiliated with the franchise

    2) multiple Cal Bears on Seahawks, Marshawn Lynch in particular.

  33. CompassRosy January 8th, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    Doreen ~

    True story …
    We usually park behind Safeco Field for Seahawks games – today was no different, but I thought about you as we were walking through the parking lot ….
    not only did I see a Tiguan, but a CC AND an EOS!
    I still love the Tiguan, but that CC is super classy looking and the EOS is darned cute (not sure how practical a convertible is in Seattle though ;-))

    Anyway – thanks again for all your reports on the SUV shopping.
    Glad to hear that my gut-feeling about the Tiguan was justified by at least one other ;-)

  34. CompassRosy January 8th, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    2) multiple Cal Bears on Seahawks, Marshawn Lynch in particular.
    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    I’m sure most teams probably do similar things where they alternate introducing the starting defense and the starting offense. Today it was the offense’s turn (appropriate, since Matt would be the last to be called and would likely get a HUGE ovation – possibly his last game as a Seahawk). Anyway, they say each player’s name and school and show their photo on the big screens as they run out of the tunnel. Lynch and Forsett (the “Cal boys”) were introduced and ran out of the tunnel together :-)

  35. Rich in NJ January 8th, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock

    No, I wasn’t saying that you said I was a pedant, only that if I posted every ancillary fact in a quick aside about a player that I could fairly be accused of being one.

    Again, the discussion was about what someone said with regard to Brooks Robinson’s errors. I contraposed Jeter’s defense to illustrate why Robinson’s errors may have been at least partially attributable to his range.

    I’m kind of shocked, although I probably shouldn’t be given the discussions here over the last few months, that anyone would perceive what I said about Jeter to be a diss, let alone (wtf?) misleading.

    But for whatever reason, you have appointed yourself the guardian of all things Jeter on this blog.

    Fine, whatever floats your boat.

    But your imputation of motives is a crock.

  36. Nick in SF January 8th, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    Cameron Morrah (1 reception, 39 yards) is also a Cal Bear.

  37. steve s. January 8th, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    Thanks for the link Chad, always appreciated.

  38. LGY January 8th, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    Any true fan of the Captain of the New York Yankees knows that the proper way to refer to him is, Mr. Derek Jeter.

    Just wanted to correct that HUGE oversight.

  39. SAS January 8th, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    Compass Rosy,

    Congrats on your win today. A fun game to watch. Good luck in future games.

  40. Nick in SF January 8th, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    In a nation of 300+ million, only one has achieved the present iconic status of Mr. Derek Jeter.

    Therefore, it is a travesty that he was not awarded a contract of at least 3 times his open market value.

    The shame of Levine hangs over us all.

  41. SAS January 8th, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    GO J-E-T-S!!!!

  42. J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    I’m kind of shocked, although I probably shouldn’t be given the discussions here over the last few months, that anyone would perceive what I said about Jeter to be a diss, let alone (wtf?) misleading.

    But for whatever reason, you have appointed yourself the guardian of all things Jeter on this blog.

    ///

    I joined this site not because of the acknowledgement of Jeter’s declining range, but because of the apparent pleasure taken by the slight men on here who fantasize they’re bringing Jeter down, all because of some imaginary fanboy competition between ARod and Jeter, that has been all the rage of the 14-year old set on the boards over the last 10 years. Hell yes, I’ll throw a match on thinly veiled little shots at Jeter, because they make me effin’ sick.

  43. J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    LGY January 8th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
    Any true fan of the Captain of the New York Yankees knows that the proper way to refer to him is, Mr. Derek Jeter.

    Just wanted to correct that HUGE oversight.

    ///

    You just keep on rooting for Randy Levine, and I’ll keep on rooting for Derek Jeter.

  44. Nick in SF January 8th, 2011 at 10:41 pm

    I’m not convinced that Randy Levine isn’t a Boston mole trying to tear down the Yankee organization from within.

    Jeter should get an extra $25 million for having to be in the building with Levine on a regular basis.

  45. CompassRosy January 8th, 2011 at 10:44 pm

    Thanks SAS and tyanksfan36.

    I’m really not expecting much from here on out…
    I was just so happy to see the team pull together and get this done, proving so many of the “experts” wrong. No matter what happens for the rest of the postseason, it was great to have the young guys get some great, positive playoff experience – that can only serve to help them going forward. And, if it was indeed Matt’s last ever home game as a Seahawk, nice way to go out.

  46. Rich in NJ January 8th, 2011 at 10:50 pm

    I joined this site not because of the acknowledgement of Jeter’s declining range, but because of the apparent pleasure taken by the slight men on here who fantasize they’re bringing Jeter down, all because of some imaginary fanboy competition between ARod and Jeter, that has been all the rage of the 14-year old set on the boards over the last 10 years. Hell yes, I’ll throw a match on thinly veiled little shots at Jeter, because they make me effin’ sick.
    __

    I’m slight? Heh.

    You’re really out there. But it’s better than comparing someone to a Nazi, so keep on keeping on.

  47. J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    ou’re really out there. But it’s better than comparing someone to a Nazi, so keep on keeping on.

    ///

    Well, at least we have that.

    ////

    Will the headline tomorrow be “Folk Hero”??? The Jets hope so.

  48. Nick in SF January 8th, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    Peyton looks peyned.

  49. Nick in SF January 8th, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    Great win for the Jetropolitans.

  50. J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    FOLK HERO!! FOLK HERO!! FOLK HErO!! FOLK HERO!!

  51. Rich in NJ January 8th, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    Cromartie is the hero.

  52. Against All Odds January 8th, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    Jets will lose next week

  53. TheStraw January 8th, 2011 at 11:04 pm

    Peyton Manning=Atlanta Braves of the 1990′s.

  54. J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    Rich in NJ January 8th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
    Cromartie is the hero.

    ///44yd return certainly helped,but he got beat on the big play,too.

  55. Joe from Long Island January 8th, 2011 at 11:06 pm

    I’m in Philly visiting wife’s family, and all I can say is

    J
    E
    T
    S
    !

  56. Nick in SF January 8th, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    Steve’s Prince of Steaks, Joe… that’s the one to visit.

    You have to go to Bustleton, but it’s worth it.

  57. J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    Manning missing two of his targets.I have utter respect for Manning, he is the best. Sad to see his team go down.

  58. Triple Short of a Cycle January 8th, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    awful clock management by the Colts. You can’t leave 1 min on the clock. terrible

  59. yankeefeminista January 8th, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    Woo hoo! J-E-T-S!

  60. J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    “Folksy” making that was not a given. He’s been in a slump & that was the wrong hash mark. I can see it now – we’ll play the Seaheads in the Super Bowl. It’s fate :D.

  61. yankeefeminista January 8th, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    Yep, me too, big Peyton Manning fan.

  62. Doreen January 8th, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    Compass Rosy -

    I had to go to the dealership to officially sign the offer today, and I had to wait a bit. So I looked around at the other cars. They had an EOS convertible in the showroom (and a baby blue Beetle convertible, too). It is a really nice car – but I’ll never have a convertible (maybe one day I’ll rent one just for the fun of it) and I think the one in the showroom had a manual transmission (something I’ve never learned, though my husband tried to teach me years ago).

    I have to wait about 2 weeks to get the car – they’re waiting for a shipment and are actually swapping inventory with another dealer to get me the car.

    Congratulations to the Jets! And Seahawks, too. :)

  63. J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 11:13 pm

    yankfem – had not mixed feelings during the game,but once it ended I was a little sad for this guy.Sanchez long concerns me. Bray was gone.

  64. SAS January 8th, 2011 at 11:14 pm

    That’s the way to go Jets.

  65. Joe from Long Island January 8th, 2011 at 11:15 pm

    Doreen thanks for the car update. Keep us informed when you get delivery and your driving impressions.

  66. J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 11:15 pm

    Sanchez grew up tonight?god these writers are bad.nothin like forcing a narrative.the kid was like Kyle Farnsworth for much of this game.he couldn’t find the plate.

  67. SAS January 8th, 2011 at 11:15 pm

    Doreen,

    Congrats on your new “baby”. Hope she brings you lots of happiness.

  68. J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 11:18 pm

    Too bad Parcells couldn’t convince Peyton to come out a yr early.

  69. yankeefeminista January 8th, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
    yankfem – had not mixed feelings during the game,but once it ended I was a little sad for this guy.Sanchez long concerns me. Bray was gone.
    _____
    Agree. Also the pass to Holmes was too hard, no touch. Like that we have the extra day to rest for New England.

  70. Doreen January 8th, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    Joe from Long Island -

    I will. (My salesman is an Eagles fan.)

    SAS -

    Thanks!

  71. J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 11:25 pm

    yea on Holmes play. replay was slowmo made it look like he should have had it,but it was drilled high. very hard to pull that down.yea, I’ll take the extra day!winning means enjoying the morning papers and the Sunday games.

  72. J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    Against All Odds January 8th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
    Jets will lose next week

    ///

    Well perhaps, but I’m guessing they’re going to play the game any way.:D

  73. J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 11:33 pm

    How does anybody root for Vick??

  74. Against All Odds January 8th, 2011 at 11:33 pm

    # J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    Against All Odds January 8th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
    Jets will lose next week

    ///

    Well perhaps, but I’m guessing they’re going to play the game any way.:D
    —————————————————————–

    Oh yea they’ll show up, put on the uni’s, and attendance will be taken.

  75. J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 11:34 pm

    While I don’t get the whole “Home offfff theeee….JETS!” thing,it’s nice to see the boys enjoying themselves.Stay loose!

  76. West Coast Yankee Fan January 8th, 2011 at 11:35 pm

    I won’t miss an Eagles game, hoping I see a career ending Vick injury.

  77. J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    Against All Odds January 8th, 2011 at 11:33 pm
    # J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    Against All Odds January 8th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
    Jets will lose next week

    ///

    Well perhaps, but I’m guessing they’re going to play the game any way.:D
    —————————————————————–

    Oh yea they’ll show up, put on the uni’s, and attendance will be taken.

    ///

    Good news for the Jets is that New England D isn’t any great shakes.Bad news is the Jet QB wasn’t very accurate tonight.

  78. yankeefeminista January 8th, 2011 at 11:37 pm

    The Jets will play hard and they’ll play to win. That is all anyone can ask. If New England thinks that by just showing up, they will win, they have another thing coming.

  79. J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 11:38 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan January 8th, 2011 at 11:35 pm
    I won’t miss an Eagles game, hoping I see a career ending Vick injury.
    ///

    He’s a sick individual.Deserves to be thrown in a pit with a pack of starved, wild dogs.I’ll watch the game,but I have trouble looking at the man.

  80. J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 11:39 pm

    yankfem – agree.we split with New England for a reason.Their defense is not particularly impressive.It’s no given we lose,I would say.We’re a dangerous team and I think New England knows that.

  81. Against All Odds January 8th, 2011 at 11:39 pm

    # J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    Against All Odds January 8th, 2011 at 11:33 pm
    # J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    Against All Odds January 8th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
    Jets will lose next week

    ///

    Well perhaps, but I’m guessing they’re going to play the game any way.:D
    —————————————————————–

    Oh yea they’ll show up, put on the uni’s, and attendance will be taken.

    ///

    Good news for the Jets is that New England D isn’t any great shakes.Bad news is the Jet QB wasn’t very accurate tonight.
    ——————————–

    True the Pats D can be scored on because they are young and inexperienced. This might be the Jets time to stand toe to toe with the Pats because next yr they are going to go crazy in the draft.

  82. Against All Odds January 8th, 2011 at 11:40 pm

    # yankeefeminista January 8th, 2011 at 11:37 pm

    The Jets will play hard and they’ll play to win. That is all anyone can ask. If New England thinks that by just showing up, they will win, they have another thing coming.
    ———————————————————

    It’s the Pats they don’t think like that.

  83. SAS January 8th, 2011 at 11:45 pm

    People, for the most part, root for the Eagles, not Vick, but to wish him physical ill WCYF is just as bad as all the gross things he did.

  84. J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 11:47 pm

    AAO,

    If the Jets hadn’t lost Jenkins again,they’d have won the division.as it is, they’re pretty mediocre up front.people complain about the backers and 2ndary,but it’s another world if you have Jenkins in the middle.the backers & secondary are pretty damn good.

    well goodnight,all.high fives to the Jets fans among us.

  85. Against All Odds January 8th, 2011 at 11:49 pm

    Yea Jenkins was a huge loss to the defense. I forgot about that.

    Take Care Enjoy the win

  86. J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 11:52 pm

    SAS January 8th, 2011 at 11:45 pm
    People, for the most part, root for the Eagles, not Vick, but to wish him physical ill WCYF is just as bad as all the gross things he did.

    ///
    It would be perfect justice if a pack of wild dogs got ahold of Vick.While I wouldn’t want to observe this,I would consider it just.

  87. J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 11:53 pm

    Against All Odds January 8th, 2011 at 11:49 pm
    Yea Jenkins was a huge loss to the defense. I forgot about that.

    Take Care Enjoy the win

    ///
    Thanks, man. Have a good one.

  88. Against All Odds January 8th, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    # J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 11:53 pm

    Against All Odds January 8th, 2011 at 11:49 pm
    Yea Jenkins was a huge loss to the defense. I forgot about that.

    Take Care Enjoy the win

    ///
    Thanks, man. Have a good one.
    ——————–

    You’re welcome

  89. blake January 9th, 2011 at 12:00 am

    The Colts were pretty much the Peyton Mannings this year….they are going to have to get him some help if they want to win again. Nice win for the Jets though.

    I just watched Inception for the first time….great movie. Does the top topple or keep spinning? I think it topples…..

    night everyone

  90. West Coast Yankee Fan January 9th, 2011 at 12:03 am

    SAS January 8th, 2011 at 11:45 pm

    People, for the most part, root for the Eagles, not Vick, but to wish him physical ill WCYF is just as bad as all the gross things he did.

    *******************

    Sorry SAS I can’t agree. Those dogs had no ability to speak up for or defend themselves. He laughed when he hung them on fences and electrocuted them and watched them die. I have no feelings for him whatsoever and I do not feel the punishment fit the crime. Sorry.

  91. Your Worst Nightmare January 9th, 2011 at 12:05 am

    Is it true that a poster here suggested signing Beltre and moving ARod to the OF ? ? It is just beyond belief that anyone would suggest a move like that. Is that really so ?

    That is actually the second time I have heard that one, another poster who lives in ‘fantasyland’ posted that similar player move over at BTB. He got laughed right off the board and tucked tail and ran. Unbelievable.

  92. Against All Odds January 9th, 2011 at 12:27 am

    # blake January 9th, 2011 at 12:00 am

    The Colts were pretty much the Peyton Mannings this year….they are going to have to get him some help if they want to win again. Nice win for the Jets though.

    I just watched Inception for the first time….great movie. Does the top topple or keep spinning? I think it topples…..

    night everyone
    ————————-

    Saw it a couple of Saturdays ago and yes it’s a great movie. I think it topples too although I have heard valid arguments suggesting that it doesn’t. But hey that’s what makes it a great movie.

  93. LGY January 9th, 2011 at 12:31 am

    I couldn’t agree more with WCYF!!!

    I think this is an omen that good things are coming to the Yankees.

  94. SAS January 9th, 2011 at 12:49 am

    WCYF,

    Nothing fits Vick’s crime. I don’t think he should have been allowed back in the NFL. However, wishing him physical ill will not bring back the dogs. I adore my dog and take the best care possible of her. If anyone or anything harmed her, I would be mad in a way I can’t even imagine.
    I still don’t believe in wishing him physical harm because if I did that I would be no better than he was.

    I would also not have him as a friend or in my home.

  95. Jerkface January 9th, 2011 at 1:11 am

    People are more empathetic towards dogs than humans, which is a bit backwards, but dogs are cute.

  96. Rich in NJ January 9th, 2011 at 1:15 am

    WCYF

    What about athletes that have beat their wives or gfs?

    What about athletes who have killed people driving while drunk?

    What cosmic justice to you have in mind for them?

  97. Jerkface January 9th, 2011 at 1:23 am

    Humans can defend themselves.

  98. Jerkface January 9th, 2011 at 1:23 am

    Also most humans are not furry, greeks and italians excluded.

  99. Patrick January 9th, 2011 at 1:31 am

    Also a human won’t bite your damn face off. Dogs can defend themselves. If Vick was participating in rabbit fights I’d put him in jail and throw away the key. But the fact of the matter is, Vick was doing us a favor by ridding the world of many dangerous dogs.

  100. LGY January 9th, 2011 at 1:38 am

    Dogs are not dangerous until they are trained to be or corrupted in some other way to be.

    Vick, in particular did what most dog fighters do. Trained them to be. Usually locking them by themselves in a dark closet for months after they are born, scaring them, putting tabasco in their food, hitting them, etc.

  101. Jerkface January 9th, 2011 at 1:42 am

    Except for those dogs which through the years have been bred to hunt small children. And war dogs.

  102. LGY January 9th, 2011 at 1:48 am

    That many of the ‘Vick Dogs’ have been rehabilitated and adopted demonstrate how easily influenced they are to do basically whatever they are trained to do. Those dogs despite being horribly abused are perfectly safe now.

    And while those dogs were dangerous at the time, they were trained to fear the people abusing them. I have never heard of a dog trained to fight attacking their owner. They are not complex enough mentally to attack someone they fear so much.

  103. Rich in NJ January 9th, 2011 at 2:09 am

    A woman (let alone most men) can’t defend themselves (except with a weapon) against most NFL players.

    A dead or grievously injured person who is the victim of a drunk driver usually can’t do much to defend themselves.

  104. Patrick January 9th, 2011 at 2:48 am

    For all we know, Vick bought only serial killer war-dogs so maybe he was helping the world?

  105. Jerkface January 9th, 2011 at 3:19 am

    The decision to inter-breed pitbulls with glock 9′s was not a wise one.

  106. West Coast Yankee Fan January 9th, 2011 at 4:02 am

    Patrick January 9th, 2011 at 1:31 am

    Also a human won’t bite your damn face off. Dogs can defend themselves. If Vick was participating in rabbit fights I’d put him in jail and throw away the key. But the fact of the matter is, Vick was doing us a favor by ridding the world of many dangerous dogs.

    ******************

    Vick was doing us favor by ridding the world of dangerous dogs? Maybe the most inane, garbage filled post I have ever seen here. Congrats.

  107. West Coast Yankee Fan January 9th, 2011 at 4:08 am

    Rich in NJ January 9th, 2011 at 1:15 am

    WCYF

    What about athletes that have beat their wives or gfs?

    What about athletes who have killed people driving while drunk?

    What cosmic justice to you have in mind for them?

    **************

    Everyone who commits a crime should be held to account. I don’t believe that Vick being allowed to play in the NFL and make millions of dollars meets that definition, jail or not. What he did is beyond the pale and inexcusable.

  108. West Coast Yankee Fan January 9th, 2011 at 4:14 am

    # SAS January 9th, 2011 at 12:49 am

    WCYF, Nothing fits Vick’s crime. I don’t think he should have been allowed back in the NFL. However, wishing him physical ill will not bring back the dogs. I adore my dog and take the best care possible of her. If anyone or anything harmed her, I would be mad in a way I can’t even imagine. I still don’t believe in wishing him physical harm because if I did that I would be no better than he was. I would also not have him as a friend or in my home.

    *******************

    But he is playing in the NFL. I understand what you are saying, but I am sorry, after reading a detailed description of what Vick did to those dogs and seeing photos of many of them and hearing about the excruciating agony animal experts believe they endured as they were tortured and killed — that’s how I feel.

  109. West Coast Yankee Fan January 9th, 2011 at 4:17 am

    For those who were not aware of what Vick actually did to those dogs. Please take a moment to read this article by Kate Woodviolet – LA Pet Rescue Examiner.

    http://www.examiner.com/pet-re.....id-to-dogs

  110. bardos January 9th, 2011 at 4:25 am

    Daily News reports Yankees have offered Montero in deal for Soria and KC has refused.

  111. Jerkface January 9th, 2011 at 5:01 am

    Calling BS on that. No way Cashman offers Montero+Nunez for Soria and the Royals don’t accept. That is borderline insanity on both counts.

  112. Your Worst Nightmare January 9th, 2011 at 6:38 am

    Patrick
    January 9th, 2011 at 1:31 am

    Also a human won’t bite your damn face off. Dogs can defend themselves. If Vick was participating in rabbit fights I’d put him in jail and throw away the key. But the fact of the matter is, Vick was doing us a favor by ridding the world of many dangerous dogs.

    =====================

    In what reality are you in ? Treat dogs properly and they will give you love and affection that has no limits. You are sick to post crap like that. Perhaps you have had a bad experience in the past.

  113. MTU January 9th, 2011 at 7:41 am

    Good Morning.

    Does it feel like the Yankees have been stuck in neutral to anyone else, or is it just me ?

    This has really been a slow to unfold off season.

    Makes watching paint dry, or iron rust seem exciting by comparison.

    Oh well. Only a month or so till P and C’s report.

    I’m ready for some baseball.

    :)

  114. upstate kate January 9th, 2011 at 7:46 am

    wow the comments took an interesting twist last night.
    As a dog lover, nothing will ever excuse what Vick did. However, we are a nation that believes in 2nd chances. Vick has joined w/ the HSUS in speaking out against dog fighting, and while I am not convinced he believes what he is saying, hopefully others do.
    As a former vet tech, pit bulls were almost never a problem breed. We saw our share as there is a rez nearby, where dog fighting occurs.
    As a dog owner, my small dog was brutally attacked by a rescued pit bull. There was no provocation, the dog was loose and not under its owner’s control. My dog was on a leash, minding her own business. Luckily my husband was with me, or she would be dead. As it is, she is blind in one eye.

  115. MTU January 9th, 2011 at 7:55 am

    Kate-

    You know how I feel about mine and about critters in general.

    So sorry that happened to your pup. Glad she survived though and has given you so much pleasure over the years.

    Most dogs are like Saints when compared with Humans.

    ;)

  116. upstate kate January 9th, 2011 at 7:58 am

    MTU
    fortunately it happened to her and not the older dog. She is very happy-go-lucky and that hasn’t changed.

    I am so ready for baseball news!!! It has been a slow off season.

  117. MTU January 9th, 2011 at 7:59 am

    Kate-

    Sorry about Garza.

    :(

    Who’s your new surprise pick ?

  118. upstate kate January 9th, 2011 at 8:04 am

    MTU
    I am not doing too well w/ my picks!

  119. MaineYankee January 9th, 2011 at 8:04 am

    MTU

    Good morning.

    Watching paint dry would be preferable to some of the banter that goes on here. :lol:

    You need to be patient. There is no way the Yankees think Mitre is acceptable as one of the last starters.

  120. MTU January 9th, 2011 at 8:07 am

    Kate-

    That’s alright.

    Where I come from we believe in 2nd chances.

    Maybe even 3rd chances.

    Go on. Give it a shot.

    Do you think we’ll get the wild Man of Borneo from the Cubs ?

  121. murphydog January 9th, 2011 at 8:10 am

    Can’t believe the insanity in Arizona yesterday. Don’t mean to be a downer, but there is a tragic Yankee connection.

    http://azstarnet.com/news/loca.....c68c0.html

  122. MTU January 9th, 2011 at 8:11 am

    Maine-

    I agree with you.

    Sometimes the blog really drops off a cliff.

    I am patient. At this point, what other choice do we have ?

    I’m glad you have Cashman’s ear and have told him about Mitre.

    :)

  123. MTU January 9th, 2011 at 8:13 am

    Murphy-

    That whole buisness was very, very sad.

    Too many lose screws running around out there.

    :(

  124. upstate kate January 9th, 2011 at 8:15 am

    MTU
    ok, Mark Buehrle

    murphydog
    these situations are tragic enough, but when you read the personal info on the victims they really hit home

  125. MaineYankee January 9th, 2011 at 8:16 am

    MTU

    I’m glad you have Cashman’s ear and have told him about Mitre.

    ———————————————————————-

    I also told him to not worry about randy because he’s just old. :lol: :lol:

  126. BIG AL January 9th, 2011 at 8:16 am

    Good morning folks. Seems that the blog went from baseball, to cars, to Vick and his dogs. What’s next? Hopefully a deal or 2, ST, and some good news from Andy.

  127. MaineYankee January 9th, 2011 at 8:18 am

    BIG AL

    What’s next is a deal that catches us by surprise like opening a present and getting something you never thought you’d get.

  128. BIG AL January 9th, 2011 at 8:20 am

    Maine -

    From your mouth to God’s ears, lets hope there is a very pleasant surprise waiting to be unwrapped.

  129. MTU January 9th, 2011 at 8:20 am

    Maine-

    Speaking of Randy.

    In some ways he does have a point, or is trying to at least point something out.

    I agree with his desire for the Yankees to have not only great hitting teams but teams that excel in Pitching.

    Pitching does win championships. No argument from me on that.

    Just look what the Giants did last year as the most recent example.

    Fortunately, the Yankees have a stable full of promising young arms
    upcoming.

    I very much hope a few pan out.

    :)

  130. BIG AL January 9th, 2011 at 8:21 am

    MTU -

    Are you blowing in Cashman’s ear again?

  131. MTU January 9th, 2011 at 8:22 am

    Al-

    Good morning.

    He wouldn’t dare follow me. He’s not that crazy.

    :)

  132. BIG AL January 9th, 2011 at 8:22 am

    Pitcher’s panning out, is like panning for gold, you go through a lot of dirt before you find the real thing.

  133. BIG AL January 9th, 2011 at 8:23 am

    MTU -

    Would you go off the side of a building with him?

  134. BIG AL January 9th, 2011 at 8:24 am

    Need to take care of a few things, be back in a bit.

  135. MTU January 9th, 2011 at 8:25 am

    Al-

    Absolutely.

    But what a feeling when you find that first big nugget.

    Hughes was the first. Can’t wait to dig the next one out of the Yankees Motherlode.

    :)

  136. MaineYankee January 9th, 2011 at 8:25 am

    MTU

    The Yankees do need to have better SP. It appears as though they are moving in the right direction.

    It’s a “I want it now” society.

    If the blame is put at Cashmans feet he also deserves credit for the success.

  137. MTU January 9th, 2011 at 8:28 am

    Maine-

    Absolutely. It works both ways. Let’s see what the next crop produces.

    Al-

    I’m not a glass and steel sort of guy but if Cash would like to try that out here he’s welcome.

    I have and it’s definitely fun.

    :)

  138. murphydog January 9th, 2011 at 8:36 am

    The whole off season critique is funny to me.

    Cashman gave the scribes (and fans) no fits of excess to wring their hands over. So instead of the usual off season brutalizing he gets for “overpaying” for players or “buying championships” and “ruining baseball,” this year he gets pilloried for failing to “overpay” for players, “buy a championship” or “ruin baseball.” That’s really not fair. He definitely overpaid for Jeter this off season ;)

    No wonder the guy thinks rappelling off a building in an elf outfit is fun.

  139. MTU January 9th, 2011 at 8:37 am

    Al-

    By the way, have you heard from our friend “Nanook of the North” ?

  140. Bronx Jeers January 9th, 2011 at 8:38 am

    Can’t believe the insanity in Arizona yesterday. Don’t mean to be a downer, but there is a tragic Yankee connection.

    ————————————————————————————————————————————–

    I believe her father is a current scout for the Dodgers. Didn’t know Dallas Green was the grandfather.

  141. YsGuy January 9th, 2011 at 8:45 am

    randy does bring up some good points but overall is not fair to cashman. all last year, he did withhold from tearing cashman up,but never gave the guy any cred for winning the WS. so now he’s back to tearing him up.

    if you’re not going to give a guy you dont like the credit that is deserved, then your criticisms are unfair and one sided.

    when he gets off of cashman and all the relevent and non relevent points he makes to slight cashman, he’s a good baseball guy. but he’s always been unfair to cashman.

  142. BIG AL January 9th, 2011 at 8:49 am

    MTU -

    Have not heard from Jim lately, other than a video he sent taken outside his igloo.

  143. YsGuy January 9th, 2011 at 8:50 am

    so where’s sj44 been?

  144. BIG AL January 9th, 2011 at 8:51 am

    YsGuy -

    SJ44 enjoys talking baseball, something the blog has been thin on lately.

  145. MTU January 9th, 2011 at 8:53 am

    SJ has been very busy travelling.

    Pat M. said as much a while back.

    He was supposed to give SJ a call and get a status.

    Pat M. Has not mentioned anything since.

  146. YsGuy January 9th, 2011 at 8:53 am

    i thought it was because he was dead wrong about both lee and heyman, and very loud about being wrong, that was keeping him away.

  147. BIG AL January 9th, 2011 at 8:54 am

    MTU -

    You da man.

  148. MTU January 9th, 2011 at 8:55 am

    Al-

    The Saints lost.

    :(

  149. MTU January 9th, 2011 at 8:55 am

    But the Jets won.

    :)

  150. MTU January 9th, 2011 at 8:58 am

    Al-

    Leavin’ soon for another outing.

    This time it’s Valley of Fire State Park in NV.

    :)

  151. BIG AL January 9th, 2011 at 9:00 am

    Some Yankees fans don’t want a GM, they want a Genie in the bottle, rub the lamp, and all their wishes for the off season come true.

    Some, it appears, forget the great deals Cashman was able to pull off, when very few that it was possible, like getting CC and Tex.

    Let’s be fair, if Cashman deserves criticism for his failure to make a deal, he also deserves the credit for the positive things he’s been able to accomplish.

  152. Doreen January 9th, 2011 at 9:00 am

    Nah, SJ’s been wrong before and always admits as much.

    Good morning, all.

    Can’t read the Cash-bashing anymore. I realize it fills up the space, but it’s been on overkill for a while now.

    Very sad circumstances in Arizona yesterday.

  153. BIG AL January 9th, 2011 at 9:01 am

    MTU -

    NV, how long a trip is that?

  154. MTU January 9th, 2011 at 9:02 am

    Al-

    About an hour or so each way. Dependin’ on how fast you drive.

    ;)

  155. BIG AL January 9th, 2011 at 9:03 am

    Good morning Doreen. Is the new VW going to be yours, or a family car.

  156. BIG AL January 9th, 2011 at 9:04 am

    MTU -

    Are you taking the ATV’s along as well? Did not realize you were that close to NV.

    You sure you’re not going there to gamble?

  157. BIG AL January 9th, 2011 at 9:06 am

    I’m going to back out for a bit, catch you later. Have a fun and safe trip Mike.

  158. MTU January 9th, 2011 at 9:06 am

    Al-

    Nope. They are not allowed in the State Park.

    Every time I hike I gamble at least a little Al. Sometimes more than others.

    ;)

  159. YsGuy January 9th, 2011 at 9:08 am

    one other thing about randy’s criticism of cash regarding pitching…he says the yankees dont develop pitchers. well, the last crop of potential mlb pitchers the yankees developed are doing quite well, much better than you would expect for 3 prospects in fact…
    phil hughes was an all-star this year and is already a solid #3.
    ian kennedy is in the rotation for the dbacks
    joba is in the yankees pen.

    3 guys who all turned out to be major leaguers, and really only one of them has not pitched up to what was expected of him

    any organization that has 3 hot pitchers in develpment will be overjoyed with those results for 3 prospect picthers

    but here, cash gets whacked over the head about them.

  160. Doreen January 9th, 2011 at 9:17 am

    Big Al -

    The VW is mine, but it will be the car that gets used if we have to transport stuff. My husband’s car is our “date car.”

    :)

  161. J. Alfred Prufrock January 9th, 2011 at 9:28 am

    bardos January 9th, 2011 at 4:25 am
    Daily News reports Yankees have offered Montero in deal for Soria and KC has refused.

    ////
    I don’t believe this.it’s a crock.

  162. J. Alfred Prufrock January 9th, 2011 at 9:50 am

    YsGuy January 9th, 2011 at 9:08 am
    one other thing about randy’s criticism of cash regarding pitching…he says the yankees dont develop pitchers. well, the last crop of potential mlb pitchers the yankees developed are doing quite well, much better than you would expect for 3 prospects in fact…
    phil hughes was an all-star this year and is already a solid #3.
    ian kennedy is in the rotation for the dbacks
    joba is in the yankees pen.

    ////

    Umm….Joba being in the Yankees pen doesn’t advance your case.his presence there screams “we didn’t know how to develop him so we quit and threw him in the BP.” Hughes & Kennedy speak better for the organization,because Kennedy they were not going to put through more trials in the AL East since location would have been so critical to his survival in our division.they were not going to give a pin-point control guy on the job training & they turned him into a very capable CF.now they have just let A Jackson have that spot instead, & they’d still have Coke for lefties & Kennedy to either stick at the back-end or try to spin off elsewhere,so you can go back & forth with that.Granderson though is a good ballplayer & they didn’t give up anything earth shattering for him.still not cut & dry, though.

    Yea Betances,ManBan & ABRACK give us much hope,plus DePaula signing & guys like JRam and Stonburner.Now let’s see what they do with these guys…hopefully they don’t waste the better talents in the bullpen or trades that bring back superficial, short-term “fixes.”The jury remains out.

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