Saturday notes and links
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 08, 2011 
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Yesterday, Brian Cashman said he’s not willing to lose a first-round draft pick to sign any free agent still on the market. However, Jon Heyman reported today that he’s hearing that the Yankees are still in the mix for Rafael Soriano. Guess we’ll have to wait and see.
Some other links and notes from the day:
• The Daily News is reporting that Joe Torre is in talks to become Major League Baseball’s executive vice president of operations. Doubt anyone will be especially surprised to see Torre end up in the league’s front office.
• Following a report that the Yankees have started talking with Andruw Jones, The Yankee U — can’t use the word Universe — looked into Jones’ value as a Marcus Thames replacement. Jones has become a very Thames-like hitter, but with a better glove.
• Here’s an interesting quote from Lance Berkman about his time with the Yankees. It comes from several months ago, when the season was still going on. It’s easy to understand why Berkman wanted to get back to the National League. He didn’t enjoy the DH experience.
• Dave Cameron makes the case that the Rays trade of Matt Garza might make them better, not only in the future, but in the immediate here and now. This Marc Topkin report seems to support that theory: The Rays will spend that money they saved on Garza to boost the lineup and bullpen.
• This morning I wrote that the George Steinbrenner statue in Tampa is made of brass. It’s actually made of bronze. I actually remember double checking the article to make sure I had that it correct, and I apparently I still managed to read the word “bronze” and see the word “brass.” Strange. Sorry about that.
That Boras has something up his sleeve…Hope it is a sign and trade.
Interesting that Boras would tell Heyman that ChiSox are out of it…Angels won’t be in it either given owner’s hate for Boras.
I really don’t want Andruw Jones.
Read the Jones analysis earlier, but after watching him play on MLB Network last season, I would pass.
He really struggled after a decent start, and that seems to be the pattern the last 2 years.
Would still prefer Scott Hairston in that role, or Golson, Baird, or Russo.
Unreal Seahawk game. So glad Shockey goes home early. Now lets go Colts
Re: the discussion of Yankee pitching prospects from prior thread…
It seems to me that any B or A candidate has to come with at least a 94mph fastball with ability to touch 97…B level.
An A level adds a plus curve or slider and a decent change.
I say this because Cash and his team love the power arms (for play-offs, they think power arms win series). Thus anyone not having that arsenal is just trade fodder.
is tERA in fangraphs park adjusted ERA ?
their glossary sucks
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tERA is created from a pitchers line drive rate, ground ball rate, and fly ball rate. Its not park adjusted, its just based on what kind of results the pitcher gets on his balls in play, not the actual result of where those balls go.
A level
Baneulos
Betances
A-/B+ level
Brackman
Ivan Nova
Noesi
Adam Warren (end of rotation of middle relief)
B level
DePaula
Jose A. Ramirez
Graham Stoneburner (relief)
B- Level
Brett Marshall
Bryan Mitchell
Trade fodder
DJ Mitchell
jerkface-
thanks.
where is the best place to look for park adjusted ERA ?
Isn’t BR’s ERA+ park adjusted?
http://www.baseball-reference......itch.shtml
Look at ERA+
Also, look at the Neutralized pitching analysis at bottom…
Shows Z is just a so-so pitcher at this stage…I’d rather see Joba get the shot.
I think it’s tough to put labels on a lot of pitching prospects…especially the ones that haven’t reached AA yet but one thing is for sure, the Yanks have a lot of depth and some very interesting arms in their farm system. IMO until we see how all these guys pan out, its a little premature to judge how the Yankees “new way of doing things” is working.
Chad, I’ll never have faith in you again when you discuss metals.
Rich in NJ January 8th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
I really don’t want Andruw Jones.
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I don’t understand why Jones has so degenerated.he was crazy good once.
BTW your comment that Jeter doesn’t have a lot of errors because of his lack of range is only a partial truth,and those are the ones that are deceptive.
Derek Jeter DOESN’T. BOOT. PLAYS. He just doesn’t do it,and to not include that in yr reasoning for why he doesn’t have a lot of errors is either a HUGE oversight, incredibly naive,or deliberately misleading.
J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
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Pasta?
Derek Jeter DOESN’T. BOOT. PLAYS. He just doesn’t do it,and to not include that in yr reasoning for why he doesn’t have a lot of errors is either a HUGE oversight, incredibly naive,or deliberately misleading.
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Ok but wouldn’t you have to look at all the other errors by short stops and see how many are related to trying to make an above average play?
Jeter wins gold gloves because he is os sure handed and makes the DP and most plays he gets to.
Also, he is very sharp on the field and doesn’t miss a beat.
He’ll make up for he decrease in range with his knowledge of where to play, and his rock solid steadiness.
?BTW your comment that Jeter doesn’t have a lot of errors because of his lack of range is only a partial truth,and those are the ones that are deceptive.
Derek Jeter DOESN’T. BOOT. PLAYS. He just doesn’t do it,and to not include that in yr reasoning for why he doesn’t have a lot of errors is either a HUGE oversight, incredibly naive,or deliberately misleading.?
Why do you feel the need to impute a nefarious motive?
The point was made in the context of a discussion about a player, Brooks Robinson, with a lot of range.
Obviously, Jeter is sure-handed, but I would have thought that’s a given to the people who read this blog. So I don’t think there is a need to post that in every discussion about Jeter’s defense.
As such there is no credible issue of deception.
Just taking a quick look at Jeter’s errors over his career, without digging deeper to see if there is any real validity:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....t=fielding
Jeter’s errors have largely gone down over the years.
Is that because he has become more sure-handed, or does is it reflect that his range has declined? IDK.
What also should be obvious is that Jeter has been a very good to great player.
The point of contention is over what he has left.
I think that’s a fair topic for discussion, particularly in the context of his free agency and subsequent contract negotiations.
Apparently, you don’t. I want try to assess your motives though.
Jeters errors cut in half the moment Tex joins the team, coincidence?
That’s a good point.
baseball IQ isn’t quantifiable,Bojo,therefore it does not exist
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Robinson was best at goimg to the foul line and coming in on bunts. He didn’t go deep down the foul lines or into the outfield and not a lot of range going into the third/short hole. He coyld get away with that because he had 3 shortstops with very good to great range…Hanson, Aparicio and Belanger. His arm wasn’t that strong but he was accurate and got the throw off fast. Clete Boyer was a shortstop that played third base. He was that good.
Why do you feel the need to impute a nefarious motive?
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A HUGE oversight wouldn’t qualify as nefarious. His diminishing range I acknowledged, which is why your comment is a partial truth, which means it is an incomplete truth, which means it really isn’t necessarily the truth.
Jets are going to blow up the Colts defense in the 2nd half
Jerkface January 8th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Jeters errors cut in half the moment Tex joins the team, coincidence?
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The rest of the infield has benefited from Tex’s presence, just as they were penalized through the Giambi years.
They made the point about Jeters errors going down when Tex joined the team on the Best First Baseman special on MLB Network.
Before 2010 I was only able to see the Yankees play in Spring Training or when they played the Rays(blah) and the occasional cable showing. I bought mlb.tv this season and was able to watch Tex(and everyone else) all the time and he really impressed me, at first I thought he was just another overpaid overhyped player but he was way better than I expected even knowing he had 2 gold gloves before coming to the Yankees and his other stats..
They commented that an SS or 3rd baseman feels more confident knowing the guy at first has good range which Tex definitely has, I liked the comment Tex made when asked about Jeters gold glove in that what is the point of making it to a ball if you’re going to throw it away, then instead of the guy being on first he is on 2nd. Jeter makes the plays he gets to and knows he can make.
Sorry that was a lot, I’m watching Aladdin and getting sidetracked so hopefully it makes sense.
“A HUGE oversight wouldn’t qualify as nefarious. His diminishing range I acknowledged, which is why your comment is a partial truth, which means it is an incomplete truth, which means it really isn’t necessarily the truth.”
Bull. I’m not writing a treatise, I’m posting a quick comment on a blog.
If I typed every contextual fact every time I posted, I would rightly be accused of being ostentatiously pedantic.
# joeman January 8th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Seahawks..WOW!!!!
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WOW is right!
I was at the game today…
just hoping against hope that the Hawks could somehow manage to play a good game and at least not embarrass themselves. But … holy cats – THAT was FUN!!!
Lots of Saints fans in the crowd early on yelling, “Who dat?”
And, to them, we now answer …
SEA dat?
WE dat!
Never felt so good to have my throat hurt so bad
Rich,
Here are the facts: Jeter’s getting older, his range has diminished. He was never a great “range” short stop to begin with, but he has been a great player, which you acknowledge (not that this should be hard to do). His errors are not merely the result of a lack of range, they are also a credit to his ability to stay focused and be as sure-handed a player as there is. As for you being a pedant, I’m sorry you feel that way. I certainly did not make such an accusation.
CompassRosy
Congrats on your team winning. My friend, a Saints fan was livid that they lost but since my team, the TB Bucs, placed 10-6 and didn’t make the playoffs at all, I didn’t feel bad.
Hopefully beating the Saints is a springboard for them and they make it to the Superbowl.
2 key factors in Seahawks win:
1) Jack Z is not affiliated with the franchise
2) multiple Cal Bears on Seahawks, Marshawn Lynch in particular.
Doreen ~
True story …
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We usually park behind Safeco Field for Seahawks games – today was no different, but I thought about you as we were walking through the parking lot ….
not only did I see a Tiguan, but a CC AND an EOS!
I still love the Tiguan, but that CC is super classy looking and the EOS is darned cute (not sure how practical a convertible is in Seattle though
Anyway – thanks again for all your reports on the SUV shopping.
Glad to hear that my gut-feeling about the Tiguan was justified by at least one other
2) multiple Cal Bears on Seahawks, Marshawn Lynch in particular.
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I’m sure most teams probably do similar things where they alternate introducing the starting defense and the starting offense. Today it was the offense’s turn (appropriate, since Matt would be the last to be called and would likely get a HUGE ovation – possibly his last game as a Seahawk). Anyway, they say each player’s name and school and show their photo on the big screens as they run out of the tunnel. Lynch and Forsett (the “Cal boys”) were introduced and ran out of the tunnel together
J. Alfred Prufrock
No, I wasn’t saying that you said I was a pedant, only that if I posted every ancillary fact in a quick aside about a player that I could fairly be accused of being one.
Again, the discussion was about what someone said with regard to Brooks Robinson’s errors. I contraposed Jeter’s defense to illustrate why Robinson’s errors may have been at least partially attributable to his range.
I’m kind of shocked, although I probably shouldn’t be given the discussions here over the last few months, that anyone would perceive what I said about Jeter to be a diss, let alone (wtf?) misleading.
But for whatever reason, you have appointed yourself the guardian of all things Jeter on this blog.
Fine, whatever floats your boat.
But your imputation of motives is a crock.
Cameron Morrah (1 reception, 39 yards) is also a Cal Bear.
Thanks for the link Chad, always appreciated.
Any true fan of the Captain of the New York Yankees knows that the proper way to refer to him is, Mr. Derek Jeter.
Just wanted to correct that HUGE oversight.
Compass Rosy,
Congrats on your win today. A fun game to watch. Good luck in future games.
In a nation of 300+ million, only one has achieved the present iconic status of Mr. Derek Jeter.
Therefore, it is a travesty that he was not awarded a contract of at least 3 times his open market value.
The shame of Levine hangs over us all.
GO J-E-T-S!!!!
I’m kind of shocked, although I probably shouldn’t be given the discussions here over the last few months, that anyone would perceive what I said about Jeter to be a diss, let alone (wtf?) misleading.
But for whatever reason, you have appointed yourself the guardian of all things Jeter on this blog.
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I joined this site not because of the acknowledgement of Jeter’s declining range, but because of the apparent pleasure taken by the slight men on here who fantasize they’re bringing Jeter down, all because of some imaginary fanboy competition between ARod and Jeter, that has been all the rage of the 14-year old set on the boards over the last 10 years. Hell yes, I’ll throw a match on thinly veiled little shots at Jeter, because they make me effin’ sick.
LGY January 8th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
Any true fan of the Captain of the New York Yankees knows that the proper way to refer to him is, Mr. Derek Jeter.
Just wanted to correct that HUGE oversight.
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You just keep on rooting for Randy Levine, and I’ll keep on rooting for Derek Jeter.
I’m not convinced that Randy Levine isn’t a Boston mole trying to tear down the Yankee organization from within.
Jeter should get an extra $25 million for having to be in the building with Levine on a regular basis.
Thanks SAS and tyanksfan36.
I’m really not expecting much from here on out…
I was just so happy to see the team pull together and get this done, proving so many of the “experts” wrong. No matter what happens for the rest of the postseason, it was great to have the young guys get some great, positive playoff experience – that can only serve to help them going forward. And, if it was indeed Matt’s last ever home game as a Seahawk, nice way to go out.
I joined this site not because of the acknowledgement of Jeter’s declining range, but because of the apparent pleasure taken by the slight men on here who fantasize they’re bringing Jeter down, all because of some imaginary fanboy competition between ARod and Jeter, that has been all the rage of the 14-year old set on the boards over the last 10 years. Hell yes, I’ll throw a match on thinly veiled little shots at Jeter, because they make me effin’ sick.
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I’m slight? Heh.
You’re really out there. But it’s better than comparing someone to a Nazi, so keep on keeping on.
ou’re really out there. But it’s better than comparing someone to a Nazi, so keep on keeping on.
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Well, at least we have that.
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Will the headline tomorrow be “Folk Hero”??? The Jets hope so.
Peyton looks peyned.
Great win for the Jetropolitans.
FOLK HERO!! FOLK HERO!! FOLK HErO!! FOLK HERO!!
Cromartie is the hero.
Jets will lose next week
Peyton Manning=Atlanta Braves of the 1990′s.
Rich in NJ January 8th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
Cromartie is the hero.
///44yd return certainly helped,but he got beat on the big play,too.
I’m in Philly visiting wife’s family, and all I can say is
J
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Steve’s Prince of Steaks, Joe… that’s the one to visit.
You have to go to Bustleton, but it’s worth it.
Manning missing two of his targets.I have utter respect for Manning, he is the best. Sad to see his team go down.
awful clock management by the Colts. You can’t leave 1 min on the clock. terrible
Woo hoo! J-E-T-S!
“Folksy” making that was not a given. He’s been in a slump & that was the wrong hash mark. I can see it now – we’ll play the Seaheads in the Super Bowl. It’s fate
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Yep, me too, big Peyton Manning fan.
Compass Rosy -
I had to go to the dealership to officially sign the offer today, and I had to wait a bit. So I looked around at the other cars. They had an EOS convertible in the showroom (and a baby blue Beetle convertible, too). It is a really nice car – but I’ll never have a convertible (maybe one day I’ll rent one just for the fun of it) and I think the one in the showroom had a manual transmission (something I’ve never learned, though my husband tried to teach me years ago).
I have to wait about 2 weeks to get the car – they’re waiting for a shipment and are actually swapping inventory with another dealer to get me the car.
Congratulations to the Jets! And Seahawks, too.
yankfem – had not mixed feelings during the game,but once it ended I was a little sad for this guy.Sanchez long concerns me. Bray was gone.
That’s the way to go Jets.
Doreen thanks for the car update. Keep us informed when you get delivery and your driving impressions.
Sanchez grew up tonight?god these writers are bad.nothin like forcing a narrative.the kid was like Kyle Farnsworth for much of this game.he couldn’t find the plate.
Doreen,
Congrats on your new “baby”. Hope she brings you lots of happiness.
Too bad Parcells couldn’t convince Peyton to come out a yr early.
J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
yankfem – had not mixed feelings during the game,but once it ended I was a little sad for this guy.Sanchez long concerns me. Bray was gone.
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Agree. Also the pass to Holmes was too hard, no touch. Like that we have the extra day to rest for New England.
Joe from Long Island -
I will. (My salesman is an Eagles fan.)
SAS -
Thanks!
yea on Holmes play. replay was slowmo made it look like he should have had it,but it was drilled high. very hard to pull that down.yea, I’ll take the extra day!winning means enjoying the morning papers and the Sunday games.
Against All Odds January 8th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
Jets will lose next week
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Well perhaps, but I’m guessing they’re going to play the game any way.:D
How does anybody root for Vick??
# J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 11:30 pm
Against All Odds January 8th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
Jets will lose next week
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Well perhaps, but I’m guessing they’re going to play the game any way.:D
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Oh yea they’ll show up, put on the uni’s, and attendance will be taken.
While I don’t get the whole “Home offfff theeee….JETS!” thing,it’s nice to see the boys enjoying themselves.Stay loose!
I won’t miss an Eagles game, hoping I see a career ending Vick injury.
Against All Odds January 8th, 2011 at 11:33 pm
# J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 11:30 pm
Against All Odds January 8th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
Jets will lose next week
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Well perhaps, but I’m guessing they’re going to play the game any way.:D
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Oh yea they’ll show up, put on the uni’s, and attendance will be taken.
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Good news for the Jets is that New England D isn’t any great shakes.Bad news is the Jet QB wasn’t very accurate tonight.
The Jets will play hard and they’ll play to win. That is all anyone can ask. If New England thinks that by just showing up, they will win, they have another thing coming.
West Coast Yankee Fan January 8th, 2011 at 11:35 pm
I won’t miss an Eagles game, hoping I see a career ending Vick injury.
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He’s a sick individual.Deserves to be thrown in a pit with a pack of starved, wild dogs.I’ll watch the game,but I have trouble looking at the man.
yankfem – agree.we split with New England for a reason.Their defense is not particularly impressive.It’s no given we lose,I would say.We’re a dangerous team and I think New England knows that.
# J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
Against All Odds January 8th, 2011 at 11:33 pm
# J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 11:30 pm
Against All Odds January 8th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
Jets will lose next week
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Well perhaps, but I’m guessing they’re going to play the game any way.:D
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Oh yea they’ll show up, put on the uni’s, and attendance will be taken.
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Good news for the Jets is that New England D isn’t any great shakes.Bad news is the Jet QB wasn’t very accurate tonight.
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True the Pats D can be scored on because they are young and inexperienced. This might be the Jets time to stand toe to toe with the Pats because next yr they are going to go crazy in the draft.
# yankeefeminista January 8th, 2011 at 11:37 pm
The Jets will play hard and they’ll play to win. That is all anyone can ask. If New England thinks that by just showing up, they will win, they have another thing coming.
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It’s the Pats they don’t think like that.
People, for the most part, root for the Eagles, not Vick, but to wish him physical ill WCYF is just as bad as all the gross things he did.
AAO,
If the Jets hadn’t lost Jenkins again,they’d have won the division.as it is, they’re pretty mediocre up front.people complain about the backers and 2ndary,but it’s another world if you have Jenkins in the middle.the backers & secondary are pretty damn good.
well goodnight,all.high fives to the Jets fans among us.
Yea Jenkins was a huge loss to the defense. I forgot about that.
Take Care Enjoy the win
SAS January 8th, 2011 at 11:45 pm
People, for the most part, root for the Eagles, not Vick, but to wish him physical ill WCYF is just as bad as all the gross things he did.
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It would be perfect justice if a pack of wild dogs got ahold of Vick.While I wouldn’t want to observe this,I would consider it just.
Against All Odds January 8th, 2011 at 11:49 pm
Yea Jenkins was a huge loss to the defense. I forgot about that.
Take Care Enjoy the win
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Thanks, man. Have a good one.
# J. Alfred Prufrock January 8th, 2011 at 11:53 pm
Against All Odds January 8th, 2011 at 11:49 pm
Yea Jenkins was a huge loss to the defense. I forgot about that.
Take Care Enjoy the win
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Thanks, man. Have a good one.
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You’re welcome
The Colts were pretty much the Peyton Mannings this year….they are going to have to get him some help if they want to win again. Nice win for the Jets though.
I just watched Inception for the first time….great movie. Does the top topple or keep spinning? I think it topples…..
night everyone
SAS January 8th, 2011 at 11:45 pm
People, for the most part, root for the Eagles, not Vick, but to wish him physical ill WCYF is just as bad as all the gross things he did.
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Sorry SAS I can’t agree. Those dogs had no ability to speak up for or defend themselves. He laughed when he hung them on fences and electrocuted them and watched them die. I have no feelings for him whatsoever and I do not feel the punishment fit the crime. Sorry.
Is it true that a poster here suggested signing Beltre and moving ARod to the OF ? ? It is just beyond belief that anyone would suggest a move like that. Is that really so ?
That is actually the second time I have heard that one, another poster who lives in ‘fantasyland’ posted that similar player move over at BTB. He got laughed right off the board and tucked tail and ran. Unbelievable.
# blake January 9th, 2011 at 12:00 am
The Colts were pretty much the Peyton Mannings this year….they are going to have to get him some help if they want to win again. Nice win for the Jets though.
I just watched Inception for the first time….great movie. Does the top topple or keep spinning? I think it topples…..
night everyone
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Saw it a couple of Saturdays ago and yes it’s a great movie. I think it topples too although I have heard valid arguments suggesting that it doesn’t. But hey that’s what makes it a great movie.
I couldn’t agree more with WCYF!!!
I think this is an omen that good things are coming to the Yankees.
WCYF,
Nothing fits Vick’s crime. I don’t think he should have been allowed back in the NFL. However, wishing him physical ill will not bring back the dogs. I adore my dog and take the best care possible of her. If anyone or anything harmed her, I would be mad in a way I can’t even imagine.
I still don’t believe in wishing him physical harm because if I did that I would be no better than he was.
I would also not have him as a friend or in my home.
People are more empathetic towards dogs than humans, which is a bit backwards, but dogs are cute.
WCYF
What about athletes that have beat their wives or gfs?
What about athletes who have killed people driving while drunk?
What cosmic justice to you have in mind for them?
Humans can defend themselves.
Also most humans are not furry, greeks and italians excluded.
Also a human won’t bite your damn face off. Dogs can defend themselves. If Vick was participating in rabbit fights I’d put him in jail and throw away the key. But the fact of the matter is, Vick was doing us a favor by ridding the world of many dangerous dogs.
Dogs are not dangerous until they are trained to be or corrupted in some other way to be.
Vick, in particular did what most dog fighters do. Trained them to be. Usually locking them by themselves in a dark closet for months after they are born, scaring them, putting tabasco in their food, hitting them, etc.
Except for those dogs which through the years have been bred to hunt small children. And war dogs.
That many of the ‘Vick Dogs’ have been rehabilitated and adopted demonstrate how easily influenced they are to do basically whatever they are trained to do. Those dogs despite being horribly abused are perfectly safe now.
And while those dogs were dangerous at the time, they were trained to fear the people abusing them. I have never heard of a dog trained to fight attacking their owner. They are not complex enough mentally to attack someone they fear so much.
A woman (let alone most men) can’t defend themselves (except with a weapon) against most NFL players.
A dead or grievously injured person who is the victim of a drunk driver usually can’t do much to defend themselves.
For all we know, Vick bought only serial killer war-dogs so maybe he was helping the world?
The decision to inter-breed pitbulls with glock 9′s was not a wise one.
Patrick January 9th, 2011 at 1:31 am
Also a human won’t bite your damn face off. Dogs can defend themselves. If Vick was participating in rabbit fights I’d put him in jail and throw away the key. But the fact of the matter is, Vick was doing us a favor by ridding the world of many dangerous dogs.
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Vick was doing us favor by ridding the world of dangerous dogs? Maybe the most inane, garbage filled post I have ever seen here. Congrats.
Rich in NJ January 9th, 2011 at 1:15 am
WCYF
What about athletes that have beat their wives or gfs?
What about athletes who have killed people driving while drunk?
What cosmic justice to you have in mind for them?
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Everyone who commits a crime should be held to account. I don’t believe that Vick being allowed to play in the NFL and make millions of dollars meets that definition, jail or not. What he did is beyond the pale and inexcusable.
# SAS January 9th, 2011 at 12:49 am
WCYF, Nothing fits Vick’s crime. I don’t think he should have been allowed back in the NFL. However, wishing him physical ill will not bring back the dogs. I adore my dog and take the best care possible of her. If anyone or anything harmed her, I would be mad in a way I can’t even imagine. I still don’t believe in wishing him physical harm because if I did that I would be no better than he was. I would also not have him as a friend or in my home.
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But he is playing in the NFL. I understand what you are saying, but I am sorry, after reading a detailed description of what Vick did to those dogs and seeing photos of many of them and hearing about the excruciating agony animal experts believe they endured as they were tortured and killed — that’s how I feel.
For those who were not aware of what Vick actually did to those dogs. Please take a moment to read this article by Kate Woodviolet – LA Pet Rescue Examiner.
http://www.examiner.com/pet-re.....id-to-dogs
Daily News reports Yankees have offered Montero in deal for Soria and KC has refused.
Calling BS on that. No way Cashman offers Montero+Nunez for Soria and the Royals don’t accept. That is borderline insanity on both counts.
Patrick
January 9th, 2011 at 1:31 am
Also a human won’t bite your damn face off. Dogs can defend themselves. If Vick was participating in rabbit fights I’d put him in jail and throw away the key. But the fact of the matter is, Vick was doing us a favor by ridding the world of many dangerous dogs.
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In what reality are you in ? Treat dogs properly and they will give you love and affection that has no limits. You are sick to post crap like that. Perhaps you have had a bad experience in the past.
Good Morning.
Does it feel like the Yankees have been stuck in neutral to anyone else, or is it just me ?
This has really been a slow to unfold off season.
Makes watching paint dry, or iron rust seem exciting by comparison.
Oh well. Only a month or so till P and C’s report.
I’m ready for some baseball.
wow the comments took an interesting twist last night.
As a dog lover, nothing will ever excuse what Vick did. However, we are a nation that believes in 2nd chances. Vick has joined w/ the HSUS in speaking out against dog fighting, and while I am not convinced he believes what he is saying, hopefully others do.
As a former vet tech, pit bulls were almost never a problem breed. We saw our share as there is a rez nearby, where dog fighting occurs.
As a dog owner, my small dog was brutally attacked by a rescued pit bull. There was no provocation, the dog was loose and not under its owner’s control. My dog was on a leash, minding her own business. Luckily my husband was with me, or she would be dead. As it is, she is blind in one eye.
Kate-
You know how I feel about mine and about critters in general.
So sorry that happened to your pup. Glad she survived though and has given you so much pleasure over the years.
Most dogs are like Saints when compared with Humans.
MTU
fortunately it happened to her and not the older dog. She is very happy-go-lucky and that hasn’t changed.
I am so ready for baseball news!!! It has been a slow off season.
Kate-
Sorry about Garza.
Who’s your new surprise pick ?
MTU
I am not doing too well w/ my picks!
MTU
Good morning.
Watching paint dry would be preferable to some of the banter that goes on here.
You need to be patient. There is no way the Yankees think Mitre is acceptable as one of the last starters.
Kate-
That’s alright.
Where I come from we believe in 2nd chances.
Maybe even 3rd chances.
Go on. Give it a shot.
Do you think we’ll get the wild Man of Borneo from the Cubs ?
Can’t believe the insanity in Arizona yesterday. Don’t mean to be a downer, but there is a tragic Yankee connection.
http://azstarnet.com/news/loca.....c68c0.html
Maine-
I agree with you.
Sometimes the blog really drops off a cliff.
I am patient. At this point, what other choice do we have ?
I’m glad you have Cashman’s ear and have told him about Mitre.
Murphy-
That whole buisness was very, very sad.
Too many lose screws running around out there.
MTU
ok, Mark Buehrle
murphydog
these situations are tragic enough, but when you read the personal info on the victims they really hit home
MTU
I’m glad you have Cashman’s ear and have told him about Mitre.
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I also told him to not worry about randy because he’s just old.
Good morning folks. Seems that the blog went from baseball, to cars, to Vick and his dogs. What’s next? Hopefully a deal or 2, ST, and some good news from Andy.
BIG AL
What’s next is a deal that catches us by surprise like opening a present and getting something you never thought you’d get.
Maine -
From your mouth to God’s ears, lets hope there is a very pleasant surprise waiting to be unwrapped.
Maine-
Speaking of Randy.
In some ways he does have a point, or is trying to at least point something out.
I agree with his desire for the Yankees to have not only great hitting teams but teams that excel in Pitching.
Pitching does win championships. No argument from me on that.
Just look what the Giants did last year as the most recent example.
Fortunately, the Yankees have a stable full of promising young arms
upcoming.
I very much hope a few pan out.
MTU -
Are you blowing in Cashman’s ear again?
Al-
Good morning.
He wouldn’t dare follow me. He’s not that crazy.
Pitcher’s panning out, is like panning for gold, you go through a lot of dirt before you find the real thing.
MTU -
Would you go off the side of a building with him?
Need to take care of a few things, be back in a bit.
Al-
Absolutely.
But what a feeling when you find that first big nugget.
Hughes was the first. Can’t wait to dig the next one out of the Yankees Motherlode.
MTU
The Yankees do need to have better SP. It appears as though they are moving in the right direction.
It’s a “I want it now” society.
If the blame is put at Cashmans feet he also deserves credit for the success.
Maine-
Absolutely. It works both ways. Let’s see what the next crop produces.
Al-
I’m not a glass and steel sort of guy but if Cash would like to try that out here he’s welcome.
I have and it’s definitely fun.
The whole off season critique is funny to me.
Cashman gave the scribes (and fans) no fits of excess to wring their hands over. So instead of the usual off season brutalizing he gets for “overpaying” for players or “buying championships” and “ruining baseball,” this year he gets pilloried for failing to “overpay” for players, “buy a championship” or “ruin baseball.” That’s really not fair. He definitely overpaid for Jeter this off season
No wonder the guy thinks rappelling off a building in an elf outfit is fun.
Al-
By the way, have you heard from our friend “Nanook of the North” ?
Can’t believe the insanity in Arizona yesterday. Don’t mean to be a downer, but there is a tragic Yankee connection.
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I believe her father is a current scout for the Dodgers. Didn’t know Dallas Green was the grandfather.
randy does bring up some good points but overall is not fair to cashman. all last year, he did withhold from tearing cashman up,but never gave the guy any cred for winning the WS. so now he’s back to tearing him up.
if you’re not going to give a guy you dont like the credit that is deserved, then your criticisms are unfair and one sided.
when he gets off of cashman and all the relevent and non relevent points he makes to slight cashman, he’s a good baseball guy. but he’s always been unfair to cashman.
MTU -
Have not heard from Jim lately, other than a video he sent taken outside his igloo.
so where’s sj44 been?
YsGuy -
SJ44 enjoys talking baseball, something the blog has been thin on lately.
SJ has been very busy travelling.
Pat M. said as much a while back.
He was supposed to give SJ a call and get a status.
Pat M. Has not mentioned anything since.
i thought it was because he was dead wrong about both lee and heyman, and very loud about being wrong, that was keeping him away.
MTU -
You da man.
Al-
The Saints lost.
But the Jets won.
Al-
Leavin’ soon for another outing.
This time it’s Valley of Fire State Park in NV.
Some Yankees fans don’t want a GM, they want a Genie in the bottle, rub the lamp, and all their wishes for the off season come true.
Some, it appears, forget the great deals Cashman was able to pull off, when very few that it was possible, like getting CC and Tex.
Let’s be fair, if Cashman deserves criticism for his failure to make a deal, he also deserves the credit for the positive things he’s been able to accomplish.
Nah, SJ’s been wrong before and always admits as much.
Good morning, all.
Can’t read the Cash-bashing anymore. I realize it fills up the space, but it’s been on overkill for a while now.
Very sad circumstances in Arizona yesterday.
MTU -
NV, how long a trip is that?
Al-
About an hour or so each way. Dependin’ on how fast you drive.
Good morning Doreen. Is the new VW going to be yours, or a family car.
MTU -
Are you taking the ATV’s along as well? Did not realize you were that close to NV.
You sure you’re not going there to gamble?
I’m going to back out for a bit, catch you later. Have a fun and safe trip Mike.
Al-
Nope. They are not allowed in the State Park.
Every time I hike I gamble at least a little Al. Sometimes more than others.
one other thing about randy’s criticism of cash regarding pitching…he says the yankees dont develop pitchers. well, the last crop of potential mlb pitchers the yankees developed are doing quite well, much better than you would expect for 3 prospects in fact…
phil hughes was an all-star this year and is already a solid #3.
ian kennedy is in the rotation for the dbacks
joba is in the yankees pen.
3 guys who all turned out to be major leaguers, and really only one of them has not pitched up to what was expected of him
any organization that has 3 hot pitchers in develpment will be overjoyed with those results for 3 prospect picthers
but here, cash gets whacked over the head about them.
Big Al -
The VW is mine, but it will be the car that gets used if we have to transport stuff. My husband’s car is our “date car.”
bardos January 9th, 2011 at 4:25 am
Daily News reports Yankees have offered Montero in deal for Soria and KC has refused.
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I don’t believe this.it’s a crock.
YsGuy January 9th, 2011 at 9:08 am
one other thing about randy’s criticism of cash regarding pitching…he says the yankees dont develop pitchers. well, the last crop of potential mlb pitchers the yankees developed are doing quite well, much better than you would expect for 3 prospects in fact…
phil hughes was an all-star this year and is already a solid #3.
ian kennedy is in the rotation for the dbacks
joba is in the yankees pen.
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Umm….Joba being in the Yankees pen doesn’t advance your case.his presence there screams “we didn’t know how to develop him so we quit and threw him in the BP.” Hughes & Kennedy speak better for the organization,because Kennedy they were not going to put through more trials in the AL East since location would have been so critical to his survival in our division.they were not going to give a pin-point control guy on the job training & they turned him into a very capable CF.now they have just let A Jackson have that spot instead, & they’d still have Coke for lefties & Kennedy to either stick at the back-end or try to spin off elsewhere,so you can go back & forth with that.Granderson though is a good ballplayer & they didn’t give up anything earth shattering for him.still not cut & dry, though.
Yea Betances,ManBan & ABRACK give us much hope,plus DePaula signing & guys like JRam and Stonburner.Now let’s see what they do with these guys…hopefully they don’t waste the better talents in the bullpen or trades that bring back superficial, short-term “fixes.”The jury remains out.