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The Steinbrenner family mourns Green’s granddaughter

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Jan 10, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

On behalf of the Steinbrenner family, Hal Steinbrenner this afternoon released an official statement mourning the death of Christina Taylor Green.

“The Steinbrenner family and the New York Yankees organization join the entire nation in mourning Christina and send our deepest condolences to Dallas Green and his family as they deal with this tremendous loss. This is a tragedy that is beyond words and our thoughts and prayers are with the Green family, as well as all of the affected families.”

Dallas Green was a manager of the New York Yankees in 1989 and his son John, Christina’s father, pitched in the New York Yankees organization in 1989 and ’90.

• Mike Lupica did a terrific job of capturing Dallas Green’s emotion in the wake of tragedy.

• Wally Matthews talked to a baseball executive who said the Yankees, ” would be crazy not to at least consider (Andruw Jones).”

• One of those risk-reward pitchers on the free agent market, Brad Penny, seems to be close to choosing a team.

• Interesting work by Doug Gray combining some research to come up with a value-based ranking of each minor league system. The Yankees landed in sixth place (tip of the hat to the guys at River Ave. Blues).

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288 Responses to “The Steinbrenner family mourns Green’s granddaughter”

  1. Jerkface January 10th, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    I don’t believe the Montero for Soria rumor, because it was buried in a Madden piece and not reported by any other NY writer. Also it was crazy. Montero+Nunez and possibly more for Soria. The Royals would be absolutely stupid to turn that down and the Yankees would be stupid for offering it and the fact that no deal got done leads me to believe that it was just a continuation of the ‘yankees dangled montero for soria’ rumor that was shot down once inspected up close.

  2. UpState January 10th, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    #6….VG.

  3. blake January 10th, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    Jerkface,

    I agree….if that had.been.offered then both sides would have been stupid. The Yankees for offering it and the Royals for not taking it.

    Rich,
    I would have traded him for Halladay…..especially if he would have signed the same.extension as he did for the Phillies but there is no way on earth I would deal him for a relief pitcher.

  4. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    blake

    I realize I’m in the minority, but unless it’s for King Felix, Hanley Ramirez, Josh Johnson, and perhaps some other young star I’m overlooking, I wouldn’t move him.

  5. blake January 10th, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    Rich,

    At this point I agree…..I understand where you’re coming from but Sabathia/Halladay would have given them an unbelieveable rotation….

    I woukdnt do eigher of these but I would have traded Montero for Garza before I would Soria…

  6. blake January 10th, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    I think the Yankees have to hang on to Montero for 2 reasons.

    1) he’s a darn good prospect and they need his bat
    2) in the off chance that the Mariners are awful again and they make Felix Hernandez available this summer. Without Montero they have no shot at getting him in that event.

  7. BoJo January 10th, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    Great discussion on TYU about how the Yankees could do a sign and trade to obtain Soriano…

    Excerpt:

    “As things currently stand, the Nationals’ third round selection is 92nd overall (before the first and second rounds is a supplemental round that includes other free agent compensation picks). Although one can never assume the level of compensation that the Nationals would expect for surrendering this slot in the draft, the value would undoubtedly be significantly less than what the Yankees would otherwise have to give up in a straight free agent signing. Also worth keeping in mind is that the Nationals received another first pick as well as a supplemental pick (34th overall) because of Adam Dunn’s departure to the White Sox. Both of those selections are also protected, so Washington essentially has three first round picks. Considering the amount of money it will cost to sign all three of the selected players, the Nationals may actually be eager to give up their third rounder (and the signing bonus that comes with it) in exchange for a cost-controlled minor leaguer.”

    Read the entire article here:
    http://www.theyankeeu.com/2011.....pick-24215

  8. blake January 10th, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    Such a sad situation. Thoughts and prayers with the Green family.

  9. blake January 10th, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    I’m sure the Nationals would love to do it because they’d be getting presumably pretty good prospects for being a middle man in a deal. From the Yankees side though, it would depend on which players would be going to Washington as to whether the draft pick they’d lose would be worth it. Also, Soriano would have to agree to it and that’s no given either…..

  10. blake January 10th, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    SEC dominance is going to continue tonight

  11. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    So I would assume it’s within the rules to trade a recently signed FA before, what is it, June 15th?, if he gives his permission?

    If so, which prospect? He has to be clearly worth less than a 1st round pick, so that would leave out probably any top ten prospect.

  12. BoJo January 10th, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    Soriano and Boras want to get paid…and would come to Yankees for a deal that either pays them more than they can get elsewhere or pays them well while giving them future flexibility.

    I think they would take some combination aound $8M per (more the better) plus option for next year. Boras will have no problem positioning Soriano as an elite closer in next year’s market even if he just sets up for Yankees.

    As to the Nats, I would think that something like Warren or Phelps and Joseph would get it done.

  13. blake January 10th, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    Like the rest of MLB, I doubt the Nationals are eager to help the Yankees out so any sign and trade deal will have to be made worth their while…..

  14. BoJo January 10th, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    It would be REALLY cool though if Cashman were able to do this by giving them the 2 Rule 5 picks from this winter! LOL!

  15. BoJo January 10th, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    blake January 10th, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    Like the rest of MLB, I doubt the Nationals are eager to help the Yankees out so any sign and trade deal will have to be made worth their while…
    +++++++++++
    No kidding?

    Of course they would get back prospects worth more than a 90 pick as well as the savings of not having to pay bonus fees.

  16. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    Giving them Cervelli. He has some upside, and it make it more likely that Montero goes north with the Yankees.

  17. BoJo January 10th, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    The article makes a WHOLE lot of sense as to the approach Cashman should take. The fact that the Rays get a 90 pick instead of a #1 pick for Soriano is reason enough to do it.

    All the other things we have been saying about how it strengthens the pen, lets Joba move to SP, and provides Mo with more rest make it a no-brainer.

  18. BoJo January 10th, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    I think Cervelli will have a role in Yankee plans. Gives them ability to let Montero get a little more time playing everyday…and then can be moved during season for a part.

    IMO, Cervelli would be overpaying for the pick.

  19. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    btw, SG at RLYW has Soriano improving their playoff chances (WC, probably) by 8%, which is substantial.

  20. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    Free agency aside, trading Cervelli for Soriano is a no brainer.

    I don’t want him part of the Yankees’ plans.

  21. BoJo January 10th, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    Not feeling any love for the Cerv-man, eh?

  22. blake January 10th, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    Bojo,

    If they could work a deal like that and not give up any real prospects of value then that’s fine with me but I wouldn’t get my hopes up….there’s a reason we don’t see many deals like this. A lot of things have to fall into line for it to work….including Soriano agreeing to do it.

  23. blake January 10th, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    Yes, I would include Cervelli and not think twice. Much rather have my first round pick than him.

  24. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    I think Cervelli was rushed. Cashman has said has much, at least with regard to his offense.

    They now have Martin, Montero, and Romine (not to mention Sanchez and maybe Murphy). Posada is still on the roster.

    Trading your least talented prospect/young player when you have positional redundancy is a smart way to run an organization.

  25. BoJo January 10th, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    Rich–

    Agreed, but I wouldn’t devalue him simply because there si depth. Another team may need a back-up or even starting catcher during the season, and that is a good time to move him.

    Blake–

    Not sure what you are talking about regarding the first round pick. Did you read the article I referenced? The Yankees don’t have to lose either a 1st round pick or Cervelli to trade for Soriano…just provide value to Nats greater than the 90th pick. Either Warren or Phelps would be a reasonable offer IMO. Cervelli might be over paying…

  26. LGY January 10th, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    I told you suckers the Yankees had a top 5 system :mad:

  27. blake January 10th, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    Bojo,

    I think I might rather trade Cervelli than Warren or Phelps. I meant that to do the deal you want to trade something of less value than a first round draft pick…..otherwise just sign him yourself.

  28. Jerkface January 10th, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    I think I might rather trade Cervelli than Warren or Phelps.

    Uh I definitely save Warren or Phelps over Cervelli. Cervelli has very little use to the Yankees going forward.

  29. blake January 10th, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    Phelps might be competing for a spot in the rotation and both guys give them depth in addition to being possible chips in other trades. Cervelli is very expendable at this point.

  30. blake January 10th, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    Oregon is going to get blown out in the 2nd half.

  31. blake January 10th, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    JimCallis
    My top four, in order: Trout, Harper, Montero, Teheran. @diooony: Best prospect in baseball? #Angels #Nationals #Yankees #Braves 13 minutes ago via HootSuite

  32. blake January 10th, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    JimCallis
    No. 3 starter ceiling. But that’s ceiling. Lots of guys see him as good middle reliever. @zyank13: ceiling for Adam Warren? #Yankees 19 minutes ago via HootSuite

  33. Jerkface January 10th, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    Trout getting a lot of dap for a guy in A ball.

  34. blake January 10th, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    Yea, I haven’t seen Trout play but usually top prospect in baseball honors is a guy closer to the big leagues. #1 is in A ball and #2 has yet to play in the minors at all. Still #3 is pretty good for Montero.

  35. BoJo January 10th, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    Well–whether it means trading Cervelli or prospects like Warren or Phelps, the point is that Cashman should be over this strategy big time…and try to make it happen. I’m sure Boras will be willing to help pitch the idea to Washington.

  36. Against All Odds January 10th, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    # blake January 10th, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    Oregon is going to get blown out in the 2nd half.

    ——————————

    Yea Auburn is in a groove right now

  37. tyanksfan36 January 10th, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    What is your take on how fast they have moved Adam Warren through the minor leagues? I know the other week there was discussion that they move some at too fast a pace and dont let them develop. Warren was drafted in 2009 out of college and is already in AA, I know his college experience means he isnt as in need of development as say Betances or Marshall but do you think they are moving him wisely through the system? I really have no take on it just wondering what other people think.

  38. BoJo January 10th, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    Jerkface January 10th, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    Trout getting a lot of dap for a guy in A ball.
    ++++++++++++

    It does seem pretty fishy…

  39. BoJo January 10th, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    TY–

    I think Warren is being moved appropriately for a guy that is back end of rotation or middle reliever. He has a great background from UNC, and plenty of pitching experience already….

  40. Jerkface January 10th, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    What is your take on how fast they have moved Adam Warren through the minor leagues? I know the other week there was discussion that they move some at too fast a pace and dont let them develop. Warren was drafted in 2009 out of college and is already in AA, I know his college experience means he isnt as in need of development as say Betances or Marshall but do you think they are moving him wisely through the system? I really have no take on it just wondering what other people think.

    Warren threw like 150 innings between College and Staten in 09, and then went to A+ skipping A- entirely. (Staten is short season A-) and dominated. So they moved him to AA. He will open in AA next year, but is well on his way to being quite formed as a pitcher. He doesn’t have a lot of work to do, I think its fine.

  41. Jerkface January 10th, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    And he already logged 275 innings in college. As well as extra innings in post-college season leagues.

    http://riveraveblues.com/2010/.....ren-23520/

  42. blake January 10th, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    Guys that play at big time college programs face equal and sometimes better competition than the lower levels of the minors. Most can jump to AA fairly quickly if the talent is there. Warren was solid at UNC….liked him there.

  43. tyanksfan36 January 10th, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    thanks..
    thats kind of how I feel about him too. He has been dominant in every level he has pitched so far. Hopefully they hold onto him.

  44. Tar January 10th, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    Ty

    I think the real question is, what would the Twins do with Warren?

    :D

  45. ac1 January 10th, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    JackCurryYES The Yankees are still monitoring the very thin starting pitcher market, but don’t expect them to sign Jeremy Bonderman.
    ___

    I still cannot accept that Mitre may be starting in our rotation. Cannot happen!

  46. Against All Odds January 10th, 2011 at 10:41 pm

    # ac1 January 10th, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    JackCurryYES The Yankees are still monitoring the very thin starting pitcher market, but don’t expect them to sign Jeremy Bonderman.
    ___

    I still cannot accept that Mitre may be starting in our rotation. Cannot happen!

    ———————————–

    I can see it happen. They all love Mitre lol

  47. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 10:44 pm

    Mitre is a placeholder.

  48. Carlo January 10th, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    The yankees seemingly monitor every pitcher but don’t like any. maybe a look at the depth chart would inspire Cashman? The free agent he is looking for isn’t going to be a front end guy, he merely needs to be better and more dependable than Mitre or Nova.

  49. ac1 January 10th, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    Nova should get his shot.

    Mitre should not…

    Anyone… Bonderman, Francis, someone?

  50. YsGuy January 10th, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    how much better is bonderman or the other available SP’s than mitre? pavano is the only one who is appreciably better.

  51. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    Apart from Pavano, which FA is worth having?

  52. ac1 January 10th, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    guess we’ll see…

  53. tyanksfan36 January 10th, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    Tar

    Too funny. Honestly though, I think if I were a pitcher waiting to get drafted I wouldnt want to be picked by the Twins but the Rays. They seem to be best at developing their pitchers.

    I also think that their sucking and getting high draft picks helped them out a lot, yes they have done a great job scouting but those picks have really helped them.

  54. Carlo January 10th, 2011 at 10:52 pm

    Are you guys serious? Mitre is the 5th starter right now…..he’s a middle reliever at best in the AL East. Its questionable whether a rotation can be called good and deep if Mitre is the 6th starter and u guys think its fine for him to be in the rotation on opening day? How about the inevitable injury? Mitre as #4? Sound great eh?

  55. YsGuy January 10th, 2011 at 10:52 pm

    bonderman has made $41M as an mlb pitcher…hard to believe..!

  56. austinmac January 10th, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    Yea, Mitre is a placeholder for the ever hoped for Hernandez trade. He may be available by 2013.

  57. YsGuy January 10th, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    carlo, nobody WANTS mitre in the rotation. the question is who is available that is appreciably better? Bonderman? Francis? or are you willing to send another armored car full of money to the pavano residence?

  58. ac1 January 10th, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    still think harden would have been a good option, with Rothschild here now. He had a good season in Chicago a few years back.

  59. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    The Yankees are going to add a starter before the season starts. They may overpay, the deal may suck, or it may even be Pettitte, but I think it’s near certainty.

  60. Carlo January 10th, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    Ysguy – I would sign two of the group of francis, garcia, bonderman, penny……not only do I not want mitre as the 5th starter, I don’t even want him competing for the spot. I would use spring training as a 3 way competition for two spots (2 free agents and nova). Meanwhile, cashman continues to wait for pettitte.

  61. tyanksfan36 January 10th, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    Actually Tar I take that back. I love me some Joe Mauer so I think id have to go for being drafted by the Twins(though its impossible because im a girl and I can only throw as far as Johnny Damon). He the reason I picked the Yankees vs. Twins Spring Training game. Hopefully he plays.

  62. austinmac January 10th, 2011 at 11:06 pm

    Rich,

    One would think they would add a starter, but I am beginning to wonder.

    How do you have a Hindenburg piece?

  63. austinmac January 10th, 2011 at 11:07 pm

    Carlo,

    Penny is about to sign per his own Tweet reported on mlbtrade rumors.

    Soon all free agents will be gone. But, be patient.

  64. YsGuy January 10th, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    i think cashman is trying to come up with something better than that. doesnt seem like they need to rush to sign any of these guys anyway and if they come up with something better, than the money they spent on these guys would be wasted.

    i think there is a deal or two on the table that cashman is trying to improve on or find an alternative to. otherwise they likely would have brought one of those stiffs aboard by now. still i dont see any of them as so much better than mitre.

  65. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    “How do you have a Hindenburg piece?”

    What?

  66. ac1 January 10th, 2011 at 11:10 pm

    I think about the Phillies rotation and I get a little angry.

  67. austinmac January 10th, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    Rich,

    Didn’t I see that earlier today? I don’t drink, I swear. By your reaction, I presume not.

  68. Against All Odds January 10th, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    # ac1 January 10th, 2011 at 11:10 pm

    I think about the Phillies rotation and I get a little angry.

    ——————————————–

    lol, Phillies are making it seem like it’s a video game.

  69. Carlo January 10th, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    To me this is not complicated and not really even defendable. I can make a case that nearly every free agent starter out there right now has more upside than Mitre. What’s also no longer worth discussing is whether Pettittes indecision or lack of a firm statement has and continues to have a material impact on the offseason thus far. Its to the point where unless Cashman pulls off a pretty significant deal, then he will look like a complete stooge if this team fails this year. He has done nothing but sit and wait since November.

  70. Carlo January 10th, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    To me this is not complicated and not really even defendable. I can make a case that nearly every free agent starter out there right now has more upside than Mitre. What’s also no longer worth discussing is whether Pettittes indecision or lack of a firm statement has and continues to have a material impact on the offseason thus far. Its to the point where unless Cashman pulls off a pretty significant deal, then he will look like a complete stooge if this team fails this year. He has done nothing but sit and wait since November……the lone exception being the Martin signing.

  71. Tar January 10th, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    Ty

    That’s as good as any reason Randy gave.

    :D

  72. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 11:14 pm

    “He has done nothing but sit and wait since November.”

    He signed Jeter, Rivera, Feliciano and and made a ridiculously generous offer to Lee.

    Maybe they are all dumb moves, but it’s hardly sitting and waiting.

  73. ac1 January 10th, 2011 at 11:15 pm

    i don’t believe that Crawford would have been worth the investment after losing Lee, but there has to be something out there. To me, Brad Penny still seems like the best option. I know he stunk in Boston, but he is further removed from his injury and has more upside than Mitre.

  74. Jerkface January 10th, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    The guy I would have gone after is Capuano

  75. West Coast Yankee Fan January 10th, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    Brain Cashman. Patience.

  76. austinmac January 10th, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    Carlo,

    Please don’t use the term upside in the same sentence as Mitre. He has none. He is a below average long man. I agree that any name thrown out today has something Mitre does not have, a chance to pitch 160 decent innings. Boy, have our standards sunk.

    In November, we thrilled with the idea of Lee, BJ Upton,and the like. Now, we wonder if Cashman can swing a Bruce Chen acquisition.

  77. YsGuy January 10th, 2011 at 11:18 pm

    rich, you dont get any credit for signing your own fa’s. or bp help, or aquiring a catcher. you only get credit when you sign a teixeira or a sabathia. and even then, it only counts for one year, then you have to do it again.

    if the jokers on here were the gm we’d have a payroll of about $675M.

  78. West Coast Yankee Fan January 10th, 2011 at 11:18 pm

    Signing two players that were already on your team and were slam dunks to return and a castoff from Flushing is hardly sponge worthy.

  79. Carlo January 10th, 2011 at 11:18 pm

    Right – he signed two of his own free agents while embarrassing himself and his teams captain in one of the deals. And, he signed martin and feliciano (fresh off about 500 appearances in the last 5 years). He made an offer to Lee then waited for a few weeks.

    Because of the aaron small / shawn chacon season where cashman believed we “had a surplus of starting pitching” coming into the season, I have no faith that he has designs for fixing this rotation.

  80. West Coast Yankee Fan January 10th, 2011 at 11:19 pm

    Which Carlo had a “like” button.

  81. ac1 January 10th, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    In November, we thrilled with the idea of Lee, BJ Upton,and the like. Now, we wonder if Cashman can swing a Bruce Chen acquisition.

    __

    It;s been years since anyone was excited about BJ Upton.

    I think you mean Carl Crawford.

    Really hoping the kids get up here quickly.

    Personally, I would sign Soriano, and send Joba down the Tampa to re-learn to pitch. It has worked for Lee and Halladay and others im sure.

  82. West Coast Yankee Fan January 10th, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    sic – wish

  83. ac1 January 10th, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    As for our rotation, i think long term it will be a really good one, but short term, the jury is out.

  84. West Coast Yankee Fan January 10th, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    So what happens when the “kids” come up and turn out to be average? Not possible?

  85. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 11:22 pm

    “Right – he signed two of his own free agents while embarrassing himself and his teams captain in one of the deals.”

    Oh, you wanted Jeter to be even more overpaid. Got it.

  86. Carlo January 10th, 2011 at 11:22 pm

    No, you guys are right, Cashman did an outstanding job recruiting jeter and mariano to return. Big time GM work there. Jeter negotiation was silky smooth too. Real applause worthy.

    No idea how garcia/bonderman/francis add up to a payroll of $675 mm…..but $4mm lefty specialists can get u there I guess.

  87. ac1 January 10th, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    Funny that two years ago, we may have assumed we’d be pushing a rotation of CC/Wang/AJ/Hughes/Joba in 2011. Times have surely changed.

  88. West Coast Yankee Fan January 10th, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    What does Jeter’s compensation have to do with Cashman’s accomplishments this winter? Nothing.

  89. Against All Odds January 10th, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    # ac1 January 10th, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    As for our rotation, i think long term it will be a really good one, but short term, the jury is out.

    ———————————-

    The only way it’s good long term is if those kids on the farm pan out. Cashman is putting alot of faith in the farm hopefully he’s right.

  90. West Coast Yankee Fan January 10th, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    So can lefty pitchers from Japan.

  91. ac1 January 10th, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    So what happens when the “kids” come up and turn out to be average? Not possible?

    ___

    Other free agents will be out there, but there is also the possibility that one or two of those prospects may turn into another Phil Hughes.

  92. Carlo January 10th, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    Rich – thanks for acknowledging that not only did he embarrass himself and Jeter, then he absurdly overpaid him. So of that $93 mm people get so giddy about him spending this year…..$40 of it was a hideous mistake.

  93. West Coast Yankee Fan January 10th, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    We didn’t trade Joba – mistake. We didn’t trade Gardner – mistake.

  94. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    “What does Jeter’s compensation have to do with Cashman’s accomplishments this winter? Nothing.”

    The point is that he got the deal done at less than many thought, while still giving him more than market value. That’s no small accomplishment.

  95. BX33 January 10th, 2011 at 11:25 pm

    “Mitre is a placeholder.”

    Even as a placeholder, he still sucks. And has no upside.

  96. LGY January 10th, 2011 at 11:25 pm

    The Yankees are very likely the only team in baseball that would have resigned both Mariano and Jeter to the deals they signed.
    Yankee fans are extemely spoiled.

  97. Jerkface January 10th, 2011 at 11:25 pm

    Why would we trade Gardner??? He is great.

  98. Against All Odds January 10th, 2011 at 11:25 pm

    # ac1 January 10th, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    Funny that two years ago, we may have assumed we’d be pushing a rotation of CC/Wang/AJ/Hughes/Joba in 2011. Times have surely changed.

    ——————————————————————

    Seems a dream right now lol

  99. West Coast Yankee Fan January 10th, 2011 at 11:26 pm

    That’s true ac1. It’s possible. It’s not Yankee baseball to me though – praying that a couple of young pitchers come through a year from now to save the team.

  100. austinmac January 10th, 2011 at 11:26 pm

    Rich,

    You defense of Cashman’s off-season is he made some moves even if they were questionable? His primary job duty is to improve the team. He hasn’t. That’s not arguable.

    Yes, the pressure is on him. His patience will not make one single pitcher cheaper. I have said repeatedly that a trade is needed and it will hurt. Trades require sacrificing good players to get one in return.

    I suspect he will keep waiting and hoping Pettitte will have a change of heart.

  101. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 11:26 pm

    “Rich – thanks for acknowledging that not only did he embarrass himself and Jeter, then he absurdly overpaid him. So of that $93 mm people get so giddy about him spending this year…..$40 of it was a hideous mistake.”

    It was impossible not to overpay him.

  102. West Coast Yankee Fan January 10th, 2011 at 11:27 pm

    No Jerkface Gardner is not great in my opinion. And no I am not going to play the statistics game.

  103. Jerkface January 10th, 2011 at 11:28 pm

    Yes, the pressure is on him. His patience will not make one single pitcher cheaper. I have said repeatedly that a trade is needed and it will hurt.

    The free agent pitchers will get cheaper and if he needs to make a hurtful trade then better off not making one and riding out the season. We’ll still make the playoffs.

  104. Carlo January 10th, 2011 at 11:28 pm

    Lgy – how does overpaying Jeter and giving Mariano his due make Yankee fans spoiled?

  105. Against All Odds January 10th, 2011 at 11:28 pm

    # West Coast Yankee Fan January 10th, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    So what happens when the “kids” come up and turn out to be average? Not possible?

    ———————————————-

    They’ll just say wait for the next batch of kids.

  106. LGY January 10th, 2011 at 11:28 pm

    We didn’t trade Joba – mistake. We didn’t trade Gardner – mistake.

    ******

    How is not trading Gardner a mistake?

  107. YsGuy January 10th, 2011 at 11:28 pm

    carlo i’ve been on here for over 3 years while all you panicky guys have screamed that we NEED to pay manny whatever he wanted and we had to get rid of that lazy bum cano, we HAD to lock up wang with a long-term deal and we had to sign every damn f/a you’ve ever heard of. i find it funny.

  108. West Coast Yankee Fan January 10th, 2011 at 11:29 pm

    Cashman is the baseball CEO. Results is all that matter, excuses don’t matter. By any objctive means of measurement he has failed to do his job.

  109. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 11:29 pm

    austinmac

    I’m really not defending anything, I’m merely pointing out the facts.

    I don’t look at the Yankees the way many of you do. I want them to build more from within. So I am willing to take a step back this season.

  110. West Coast Yankee Fan January 10th, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    Because Crawford or Holliday should be playing left field for us right now, not Gardner. That is my opinion, and the opinion of many others.

  111. ac1 January 10th, 2011 at 11:31 pm

    Cashman is the baseball CEO. Results is all that matter, excuses don’t matter. By any objctive means of measurement he has failed to do his job.

    __

    Unless the Yankees still manage to succeed. While most of us agree it looks bad now, but you can judge the results, befire any results happen.

  112. Nick in SF January 10th, 2011 at 11:31 pm

    “Mitre is a placeholder.”

    I wouldn’t even trust him as a placemat holder. :mad:

  113. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 11:31 pm

    “Even as a placeholder, he still sucks. And has no upside.”

    The season hasn’t started yet. When he is sucking during the season as a starter, we can talk about it. Until then, he is merely a name taking up space.

  114. LGY January 10th, 2011 at 11:31 pm

    Waiting on a trade allows the Yankees to evaluate their internal options.

    Given that the Yankees are already a playoff team as constructed it is a smart strategy to take.

    They may not even have to make a trade at the end of the day.

  115. AZ88 January 10th, 2011 at 11:31 pm

    How far away are Phelps, Warren, or Noesi? Could any of them step in and come out of ST as a starter?

    If not, we’re looking at Mitre until one of them is ready.

  116. Carlo January 10th, 2011 at 11:32 pm

    How is it impossible not to overpay someone? This is a free agent market. This isn’t a free agent store where everyone has fixed price tags. The market decides the price. The market was not even remotely close to what Jeter got. There is no reason he had to be grossly overpaid.

    The irony is, the only people who believe Jeter had to be grossly overpaid are “the spoiled yankee fans” who believe management has an obligation to make their icons richer than they are.

  117. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 11:33 pm

    “How is it impossible not to overpay someone?”

    So you thought it was possible to give Jeter $7m-$10m a year for two years? Be honest or your keyboard will explode.

  118. Jerkface January 10th, 2011 at 11:34 pm

    How is it impossible not to overpay someone?

    When the baseball player in question could walk away from a deal not up to snuff. Its a miracle they got Jeter to take a paycut.

  119. LGY January 10th, 2011 at 11:34 pm

    Cashman is the baseball CEO. Results is all that matter, excuses don’t matter. By any objctive means of measurement he has failed to do his job.
    *****

    Then spare us this daily repetitive post until next October because there have been no results yet.

  120. Against All Odds January 10th, 2011 at 11:35 pm

    # Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 11:29 pm

    austinmac

    I’m really not defending anything, I’m merely pointing out the facts.

    I don’t look at the Yankees the way many of you do. I want them to build more from within. So I am willing to take a step back this season.

    ———————————————–

    Are the Yankees willing to do that? What I mean by that is if Montero gets his feet but doesn’t have a stellar yr would they trade him because he didn’t perform to there expectations?

  121. Carlo January 10th, 2011 at 11:35 pm

    Ysguy – when did replacing mitre in the rotation with a few $2-3 mm starters have any similarity to making $20+ mm manny ramirez signings or trading robinson cano? I don’t see any similarity in the stretch parallel you are attempting to make.

  122. YsGuy January 10th, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    so apparently we’re supposed to fire the gm every time we dont win the WS? so its not that results matter (he won the WS last year) but that only the perception of bad results matter (there are no actual results of this offseason until games are actually played)

  123. West Coast Yankee Fan January 10th, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    If you are happy with two World Championships in eleven years with the largest payroll in baseball then ok. I am not. The Red Sox have two in eight years. I’m not happy with that. World Championships is how I measure success; along with beating the Red Sox. I am not mollified by a wild card berth and then losing to Texas. Im not happy with how they played last year and Cashman had a lousy off-season last year and he has again this year.

    I love the Yankees and want them to do a better job. I wish we had a different GM and a different manager. Dave Dombrowski, Walt Jocketty – Buck Showalter, Mike Scosia.

  124. YsGuy January 10th, 2011 at 11:37 pm

    lemme explain it more clealy to you then, carlo. you are one of those panicky guys screaming about what HAS to be done and what CANNOT happen.

  125. Jerkface January 10th, 2011 at 11:38 pm

    Cashman’s offseason last year was sick. Granderson and Javy trade, Nick the Stick at DH.

  126. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 11:38 pm

    “Are the Yankees willing to do that? What I mean by that is if Montero gets his feet but doesn’t have a stellar yr would they trade him because he didn’t perform to there expectations?”

    Time will tell. Cash is the one who said that they need to start developing more from within the system. It’s becoming put up or shut up time unless they keep winning WS with veterans.

  127. Carlo January 10th, 2011 at 11:39 pm

    Yes Rich…..I believe they could have given jeter half of what they did. 2 and $30. Almost 2x mkt value. He had no where to go.

    You guys are funny. When players who the yankees want take them to the cleaners and milk every penny out of them, the player is the scumbag. However, when the yankees have the leverage, they aren’t allowed to use it. You guys either don’t want to accept the facts that Jeter had no market at the level I suggested, or you the worst financial/biz folks around.

  128. Carlo January 10th, 2011 at 11:40 pm

    I haven’t seen anyone say to fire Cashman……is this just another made up thing to try and prove a point no one is making?

  129. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 11:40 pm

    WCYF

    “The Red Sox have two in eight years. ”

    How many WS would they have won without Manny and Pedro, two players that Theo had nothing to do with acquiring?

  130. ac1 January 10th, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    I love the Yankees and want them to do a better job. I wish we had a different GM and a different manager. Dave Dombrowski, Walt Jocketty – Buck Showalter, Mike Scosia.

    ___

    Really?

    How exactly are their teams doing?

    Buck? Really?

    And the Angels? Had a worse offseason than we have had so far.

    Detroit and St. Louis?

  131. Against All Odds January 10th, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    # Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 11:38 pm

    “Are the Yankees willing to do that? What I mean by that is if Montero gets his feet but doesn’t have a stellar yr would they trade him because he didn’t perform to there expectations?”

    Time will tell. Cash is the one who said that they need to start developing more from within the system. It’s becoming put up or shut up time unless they keep winning WS with veterans.

    ———————————————————————-

    I apologize for the typos.

    Yes time will tell if they are willing to go through with it. I just get the feeling at the first sign of trouble they will do what they did in 08.

  132. Jerkface January 10th, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    I was campaigning for Jeter at 1 or 2 years, but it wasn’t a possibility. Jeter could have just not signed with the Yankees. As shown by Damon, and as Cashman said, it is difficult to re-sign a player to a smaller deal on the same team. There is a stigma associated with that in the clubhouse. Its why Damon did not come back.

  133. ac1 January 10th, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    Carlo January 10th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
    I haven’t seen anyone say to fire Cashman……is this just another made up thing to try and prove a point no one is making?

    __

    WCYF has. And that one blogger, YankeesNMore?

  134. GreenBeret7 January 10th, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    Luis Sojo is coming back to manage the Tampa Yanks. Looks like Torre Tyson will be promoted to another level. Franklin is back at Trentom, but, can’t imagin that Miley is in trouble at Scranton. I wonder if Rob Thomson is leaving?

  135. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 11:42 pm

    “Yes Rich…..I believe they could have given jeter half of what they did. 2 and $30. Almost 2x mkt value. He had no where to go.”

    Booooooooooooom

    “You guys are funny. When players who the yankees want take them to the cleaners and milk every penny out of them, the player is the scumbag. However, when the yankees have the leverage, they aren’t allowed to use it. You guys either don’t want to accept the facts that Jeter had no market at the level I suggested, or you the worst financial/biz folks around.”

    I wanted Jeter to get more money? Too funny.

  136. West Coast Yankee Fan January 10th, 2011 at 11:42 pm

    Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 11:40 pm

    WCYF

    “The Red Sox have two in eight years. ”

    How many WS would they have won without Manny and Pedro, two players that Theo had nothing to do with acquiring?

    ************

    Did I mention Theo? Or what players they had? No I didn’t. As I said results is all that matters. The facts are they have won 2 in 8. We have won 2 in 11.

  137. Carlo January 10th, 2011 at 11:43 pm

    Nope, Ysguy, u got it wrong yet again. I’m not panicking at all. Merely saying that mitre isn’t a 5th starter on a team that competes. Keep paintin with the broad brush though, ur doing faaaaannnnntastic.

  138. YsGuy January 10th, 2011 at 11:43 pm

    i was one who said right away that the original offer to jeter was more than generous and cashman was dead right to tell him to go shop it if he didnt like it. jeter is the one who pushed it to that point by not agreeing to the original very generous offer. and i agree he probably got at least 3x his actual value as a player

  139. West Coast Yankee Fan January 10th, 2011 at 11:44 pm

    ac1 January 10th, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    Carlo January 10th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
    I haven’t seen anyone say to fire Cashman……is this just another made up thing to try and prove a point no one is making?

    __

    WCYF has. And that one blogger, YankeesNMore?

    ********************

    When did I say I would fire Cashman? If I did please post the link.

  140. Jerkface January 10th, 2011 at 11:44 pm

    When did I say I would fire Cashman? If I did please post the link.

    Just now, when you wished you had a different GM? Also Dave Dombrowski? Hilarious.

  141. ac1 January 10th, 2011 at 11:45 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan January 10th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
    If you are happy with two World Championships in eleven years with the largest payroll in baseball then ok. I am not. The Red Sox have two in eight years. I’m not happy with that. World Championships is how I measure success; along with beating the Red Sox. I am not mollified by a wild card berth and then losing to Texas. Im not happy with how they played last year and Cashman had a lousy off-season last year and he has again this year.

    I love the Yankees and want them to do a better job. I wish we had a different GM and a different manager. Dave Dombrowski, Walt Jocketty – Buck Showalter, Mike Scosia.

    ___

    You want a different GM, meaning you want Cashman gone. That was less than 10 minutes ago.

  142. Nick in SF January 10th, 2011 at 11:46 pm

    11 years is a fair cutoff since that allows you to leave out 1999, 1998, and 1996.

    Why not make it the past 7 years, then the Red Sox lead 2-1.

    Horrors!

  143. West Coast Yankee Fan January 10th, 2011 at 11:46 pm

    ac1 January 10th, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    I love the Yankees and want them to do a better job. I wish we had a different GM and a different manager. Dave Dombrowski, Walt Jocketty – Buck Showalter, Mike Scosia.
    ___

    Really? How exactly are their teams doing? Buck? Really? And the Angels? Had a worse offseason than we have had so far. Detroit and St. Louis?

    ***********************

    I think they are better than Cashman and Scosia.

  144. YsGuy January 10th, 2011 at 11:46 pm

    broad brush?

    “You guys are funny. When players who the yankees want take them to the cleaners and milk every penny out of them, the player is the scumbag.”

    i believe you are the one who introduced the word scumbag, too, btw.

  145. ac1 January 10th, 2011 at 11:46 pm

    I’d love to hear how you can justify that… you know, since you are so big on RESULTS.

  146. Nick in SF January 10th, 2011 at 11:47 pm

    To be fair, “West Coast Yankee Fan” didn’t say he wanted Cashman fired.

    He’d prefer it if Cashman slipped into a pit of dead Michael Vicks — or something.

  147. West Coast Yankee Fan January 10th, 2011 at 11:47 pm

    No ac1. I never said fire Cashman those other GM’s are not available and its too close to the season.

  148. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 11:47 pm

    “Did I mention Theo? Or what players they had? No I didn’t. As I said results is all that matters. The facts are they have won 2 in 8. We have won 2 in 11.”

    Well, I know that you know that Theo was the GM in the time period you put forth. and you’re talking about GMs, so you didn’t really have to actually mention him by name.

    The Yankees choked in 2004. Is that on Cashman too?

  149. Jerkface January 10th, 2011 at 11:48 pm

    Think of how many world series we’d have in the 2000s if we didn’t have Joe Torre as manager, probably all of them!

  150. ac1 January 10th, 2011 at 11:48 pm

    Cashman has made some good moves in his time here too. Easy to focus on the bad ones. All GMs make bad moves.

  151. West Coast Yankee Fan January 10th, 2011 at 11:48 pm

    # Nick in SF January 10th, 2011 at 11:46 pm

    11 years is a fair cutoff since that allows you to leave out 1999, 1998, and 1996. Why not make it the past 7 years, then the Red Sox lead 2-1. Horrors!

    Just went to the last decade. Go back to 1927 if you want.

  152. Carlo January 10th, 2011 at 11:49 pm

    Rich – u are saying it was impossible to sign him for less. I’m pointing out that it absolutely wasn’t.

    What scares me most about Cashman, and I want to see what u guys think, is the following.

    I believe it eats at Cashman everyday that every accomplishment he has in his strong career as a GM is largely dismissed by his peers with the “well if I had that payroll, I would win a lot too”. I think this truly bothers him. It would bother me.

    Because of that, I believe he is determined to put his print on this team one way or another. Through prospects, small deals, etc. I often wonder if this hope clouds his judgement sometimes.

  153. ac1 January 10th, 2011 at 11:49 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan January 10th, 2011 at 11:47 pm
    No ac1. I never said fire Cashman those other GM’s are not available and its too close to the season.

    ___

    How exactly do you judge that the Gm of the Tigers and Cardinals are better?

    Cards haven’t managed to lock up the best player in their history and next year he will be playing for the Cubs.

  154. West Coast Yankee Fan January 10th, 2011 at 11:50 pm

    Jerkface January 10th, 2011 at 11:48 pm

    Think of how many world series we’d have in the 2000s if we didn’t have Joe Torre as manager, probably all of them!

    ******************

    See that’s what you don’t get stat-man. Results are all that matter in the end not excuses or your opinion of Joe Torre.

  155. Carlo January 10th, 2011 at 11:51 pm

    I invented the word scumbag?

  156. West Coast Yankee Fan January 10th, 2011 at 11:51 pm

    ac1 – I don’t agree. I think Pujols will re-sign with the Cardinals. Want to wager?

  157. Jerkface January 10th, 2011 at 11:52 pm

    I believe it eats at Cashman everyday that every accomplishment he has in his strong career as a GM is largely dismissed by his peers with the “well if I had that payroll, I would win a lot too”. I think this truly bothers him. It would bother me.

    Everyone speaks very highly of Cashman. Its fans who say stuff like that and they won’t decide his entry into a hall of fame or kind words after he is gone. I do not think that is it at all. I do think he was annoyed by the lack of flexibility in the Job prior to G.S. health causing him to meddle less. He was going to have Beltran on the team and Vlad, and probably less of the crappy atlanta pitchers.

  158. Nick in SF January 10th, 2011 at 11:52 pm

    Since 2008 the Yankees have won one championship and the Red Sox none.

    Millions of Chinese and Indians have only known Yankee championships during their lives.

  159. ac1 January 10th, 2011 at 11:53 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan January 10th, 2011 at 11:51 pm
    ac1 – I don’t agree. I think Pujols will re-sign with the Cardinals. Want to wager?

    _____

    Not particularly. You want to wager that Mitre will be in the rotation when the season starts?

  160. West Coast Yankee Fan January 10th, 2011 at 11:53 pm

    Look, everyone can have an opinion on this. If you guys think Brian Cashman is an excellent General Manager that’s fine. We’ll see this year how good he is managing this mess.

  161. YsGuy January 10th, 2011 at 11:53 pm

    carlo, read it again…slower this time.

  162. Jerkface January 10th, 2011 at 11:54 pm

    See that’s what you don’t get stat-man. Results are all that matter in the end not excuses or your opinion of Joe Torre.

    Eh so torre doesn’t count in the results? Are you saying he wasn’t a factor? Who is to be held accountable for results? Do we get to include the fact that as the most visible and powerful franchise, that its stars have more leverage and leeway than other teams, such that Joe Torre is allowed to stink up the manager position for 6 years and even in the wake of a very generous offer every says they insult him?

  163. West Coast Yankee Fan January 10th, 2011 at 11:54 pm

    Ac1 – I hope Mitre won’t be in the rotation. I think Cashman will pick someone up. That’s hardly a tough decision to make is it?

  164. ac1 January 10th, 2011 at 11:54 pm

    Excellent? I dont think there is a such thing as an EXCELLENT GM. Too much goes wrong.

  165. West Coast Yankee Fan January 10th, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    Jerkface no surprise, you and I differ on Torre as well. I think he was a superb manager and that he was treated like garbage by Cashman and Hal.

  166. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    “Rich – u are saying it was impossible to sign him for less. I’m pointing out that it absolutely wasn’t.”

    Yes, because I don’t think that ownership had the stomach to exert their full leverage, in large part because they make so much money. At some point another $10m wasn’t really a big deal to them. They were willing to let their GM extract a paycut because the player has declined (and, imo, they didn’t want another A-Rodian contract), and he got that done, remarkably in a way.

    “I believe it eats at Cashman everyday that every accomplishment he has in his strong career as a GM is largely dismissed by his peers with the “well if I had that payroll, I would win a lot too”. I think this truly bothers him. It would bother me.”

    IDK if it is dismissed by his peers, but he has said that he thinks he doesn’t get enough credit from fans and the media as a result of the payroll.

    All I am asking of him is to live up to what he said he wants to do, start relying more on homegrown players.

    If that happens, I can live with not making the playoffs this year.

  167. Carlo January 10th, 2011 at 11:57 pm

    Nope, can’t follow it. Read it twice.

    Thank god I turned the national title game off at halftime because Blake told everyone it was going to be a blowout.

  168. Jerkface January 10th, 2011 at 11:57 pm

    I think he was a superb manager and that he was treated like garbage by Cashman and Hal.

    You have the worst opinions. Like, really just odd and twisted opinions. You jump to defense of Jon Heyman, you think Torre was treated like garbage to be made the highest paid manager in the league after a disastrous postseason?

  169. tyanksfan36 January 10th, 2011 at 11:58 pm

    # GreenBeret7 January 10th, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    Luis Sojo is coming back to manage the Tampa Yanks. Looks like Torre Tyson will be promoted to another level. Franklin is back at Trentom, but, can’t imagin that Miley is in trouble at Scranton. I wonder if Rob Thomson is leaving?

    ____

    I saw that too. I liked Tyson. There is going to be a new coaching staff as well, it will be interesting to see how things work out with new coaches.
    oh and I uploaded a video to my blog of Venditte throwing a few warmup pitches.

  170. West Coast Yankee Fan January 10th, 2011 at 11:58 pm

    What a great BCS game! How ’bout them Ducks!

  171. Jerkface January 10th, 2011 at 11:59 pm

    And that he was insulted by having incentives in his deal despite all his previous deals having incentives and every manager in baseball having incentives? Marvelous!

  172. ac1 January 10th, 2011 at 11:59 pm

    Again, i am saddened by Aceves and his injuries because this is the time he would have made the rotation easily.

  173. Rich in NJ January 11th, 2011 at 12:00 am

    “Look, everyone can have an opinion on this. If you guys think Brian Cashman is an excellent General Manager that’s fine. We’ll see this year how good he is managing this mess.”

    Strawman standard, huh? Not excellent, but very good, not someone who should be fired

    This is a mess? Either you are a spoiled Yankee fan or you’re merely posing as a Yankee fan.

  174. Carlo January 11th, 2011 at 12:00 am

    WCYF – what do u mean? The game ended at halftime when auburn got momentum. Its a blowout now, blake told me so multiple times so I’m not watching it.

  175. Jerkface January 11th, 2011 at 12:00 am

    And its cashman’s fault that Torre could not win the world series with Wang, Pettitte, Clemens/Hughes, Mussina and a 6 run offense with a bullpen that had mariano and 2007 joba in it.

  176. West Coast Yankee Fan January 11th, 2011 at 12:00 am

    Jerkface January 10th, 2011 at 11:57 pm

    You have the worst opinions. Like, really just odd and twisted opinions. You jump to defense of Jon Heyman, you think Torre was treated like garbage to be made the highest paid manager in the league after a disastrous postseason?

    ************

    You’re right Jerkman. I am a fan of one of the most respected baseball writers and greatest managers in baseball. Imagine that.

  177. YsGuy January 11th, 2011 at 12:01 am

    i think torre was an excellent manager who overstayed his shelf-life. while he might have deserved a little more guaranteed money than incentives, he still called a good offer an insult and that closed the door on the relationship.

  178. West Coast Yankee Fan January 11th, 2011 at 12:01 am

    Carlo – What a game.

  179. Carlo January 11th, 2011 at 12:02 am

    AC1 – hasn’t big al been around saying that Ace is fine and will be ready for the season?

  180. Nick in SF January 11th, 2011 at 12:03 am

    Not just a Heyman defender but a Heyman fan. We have learned something.

  181. West Coast Yankee Fan January 11th, 2011 at 12:03 am

    Rich it’s because I am such a Yankee fan that I agonize about Cashman’s performance as a GM. You’re entitled to like him. That’s fine.

  182. Jerkface January 11th, 2011 at 12:03 am

    I don’t think Jon Heyman is one of the most respected baseball writers, I don’t know if you notice on twitter but he gets crapped on every day for his lousy opinions.

    Joe Posnanski is a great baseball writer. Why don’t you let me in on some of your favorite Heyman articles, the ones that cut to the soul of baseball?

  183. Carlo January 11th, 2011 at 12:04 am

    Wcyf – be a shame if this call stands. Right call but a shtty play to possibly decide a title.

  184. Rich in NJ January 11th, 2011 at 12:04 am

    West Coast Yankee Fan

    Seriously, agonize about real life.

  185. Nick in SF January 11th, 2011 at 12:05 am

    Heyman is the tweetkeeper of the game.

  186. Carlo January 11th, 2011 at 12:06 am

    Who is the poster on this blog who goes ballstic about the umpiring every single game? I haven’t seen that guy around in a while.

    What a finish.

  187. blake January 11th, 2011 at 12:08 am

    This has been a really good football game.

  188. Carlo January 11th, 2011 at 12:09 am

    Hate to root for a kid to miss a kick like this…….but I would love to see some OT.

  189. blake January 11th, 2011 at 12:10 am

    Can’t believe with 2 timeouts they aren’t going to try for the end zone 1 time

  190. YsGuy January 11th, 2011 at 12:10 am

    newton is worth every penny they paid for him!

  191. blake January 11th, 2011 at 12:11 am

    Ok…I guess they did.

  192. Against All Odds January 11th, 2011 at 12:12 am

    Congrats Auburn

  193. blake January 11th, 2011 at 12:12 am

    YsGuy January 11th, 2011 at 12:10 am
    “newton is worth every penny they paid for him!”

    Yes…good free agent acquisitions are always key

  194. Carlo January 11th, 2011 at 12:13 am

    I’m glad brad penny isn’t an option. I had already decided that he would be the first Yankee I have ever boo’d at the stadium. I absolutely hate thaty jerk. He disrespected Girardi after hitting a few of our guys and I think he is a first class punk.

  195. Nick in SF January 11th, 2011 at 12:20 am

    “This is for all the Tostitos.”

    Musberger clowns it up yet again.

  196. LGY January 11th, 2011 at 12:22 am

    Wait a second. WCYF only cares about results but doesn’t let Torre’s utter lack of results post 2000 influence his opinion of him being a great manager?

    And that he is obsessed with Boston but still thinks Torre is a great manager despite his brutally awful job in the 2004 ALCS that led to that first Red Sox WS in 89 years?

    Yes brutally awful. He was so bad brutal or awful alone doesn’t cut it.

  197. YsGuy January 11th, 2011 at 12:22 am

    i think the yankees will bring in one of the bonderman/francis/garcia group, i also think that nova will win the rotation spot and by midseason, mitre and whoever they bring in will be gone and one or two of the minor league arms will rise up to the #6 or maybe even the #5 spot.

    o and i think that andy will pitch for the yankees this season, but maybe not before june.

  198. Bo knows January 11th, 2011 at 12:23 am

    Personally I don’t hate on Theo, I respect his abilities. I think the Yankees could learn from him on collecting draft picks. ESPN feels he walks on water. Lo and behold this guru punted last year so the team could be stronger this year. Told the fans beforehand “This is a bridge year”. Stripped the farm system for a 1B. Overpaid Crawford when he actually needed Werth. Paid shortstops to play for other teams. Matsuzaka and Lackey contracts. And he remains without sin. Cashman on the other hand who’s team is rated at 90 wins before doing anything is -(insert pejorative here)____________ It boggles the mind.

  199. Bo knows January 11th, 2011 at 12:30 am

    Showalter deserves credit for developing the Yankee powerhouse, resigned as a matter of principle when Big George messed on him. Torre parachuted in, did some good things, great PR guy, eventually believed his press clippings.

  200. LGY January 11th, 2011 at 12:33 am

    I think Joe Torre was one of the single biggest contributers to the Sox two WS.

    His awful managing in 2004 first and then not taking his players off the field in the midge game in 2007. I thought the Yankees were Better than the Sox that year and would have knocked them out in the ALCS if they won that midge game.

  201. West Coast Yankee Fan January 11th, 2011 at 12:34 am

    Jerkface January 11th, 2011 at 12:03 am

    I don’t think Jon Heyman is one of the most respected baseball writers, I don’t know if you notice on twitter but he gets crapped on every day for his lousy opinions. Joe Posnanski is a great baseball writer. Why don’t you let me in on some of your favorite Heyman articles, the ones that cut to the soul of baseball?

    **********

    I agree with you about Joe Posnanski, he’s terrific. They are very different kinds of sports journalists. There is a reason Heyman is on MLB and many other shows. Even Chad structures some threads around Heyman reports. That’s all.

  202. West Coast Yankee Fan January 11th, 2011 at 12:37 am

    LGY January 11th, 2011 at 12:22 am

    Wait a second. WCYF only cares about results but doesn’t let Torre’s utter lack of results post 2000 influence his opinion of him being a great manager? And that he is obsessed with Boston but still thinks Torre is a great manager despite his brutally awful job in the 2004 ALCS that led to that first Red Sox WS in 89 years? Yes brutally awful. He was so bad brutal or awful alone doesn’t cut it.

    **********

    Yes, results matter. Twelve years – four world championships – six pennants – ten division championships. That really sucks huh?

  203. GreenBeret7 January 11th, 2011 at 12:39 am

    Doesn’t Showalter deserve any of the hits for allowing the Yankees to blow a 2-0 lead against the ’95 Mariners including blowing late leads in games #4 and #5? just as bad a sin was taking all of the credit for the season’s successes and none of the blame. I’m sure that his need for additional power didn’t sit well with GMS, either.

  204. Jerkface January 11th, 2011 at 12:40 am

    There is a reason Heyman is on MLB and many other shows.

    Yea? So is Ken Rosenthal and he is a weasel. Anyone can get on an MLB show on ESPN or otherwise. Yea that Kevin Millar, respected by his peers, NOT he was a scab. Your use of these logical fallacies of appealing to authority and others just doesn’t do anything to help your cause.

    The President gets elected to the white house by the majority of the united states, do we think every President does a bang up job? Is the Pro-bowl, all-star game, or whatever always an indication of who is best at the position?

    Maybe MLB Networks deal with Sports Illustrated which includes having Verducci and Heyman available as guests has something to do with it?

  205. LGY January 11th, 2011 at 12:43 am

    Yes, results matter. Twelve years – four world championships – six pennants – ten division championships. That really sucks huh?

    ******

    So Torre only gets credit but not Cashman?

    By your logic Cashman is great.

  206. LGY January 11th, 2011 at 12:45 am

    Between 2001 and 2007

    Yankees: Zero championships

    Red Sox: Two

    Torre was terrible based on arbitrary endpoints?

  207. LGY January 11th, 2011 at 12:47 am

    Since World Series are the only thing that count apparently:

    Torre: 4 for 12 or 33%
    Girardi: 1 for 3 or 33%

    Therefore Girardi is great.

  208. West Coast Yankee Fan January 11th, 2011 at 12:47 am

    Jerkface your opinions are just way out there but you are entitled to them. I have no penchant to appeal to authority figures. I enjoy watching Rosenthal and Heyman, they know baseball and offer good insight into what’s going on to the best of their abilities. It’s strange to me that some seem to take pleasure in berating sports media. This isn’t politics so to what end? You’re a blogger, you don’t have the insight they do nor do you have personal access to managers, management, agents and players.

    Also, I don’t have a cause. Everything to you is some sort of sophomoric competition. It’s not to me.

  209. YsGuy January 11th, 2011 at 12:48 am

    anybody who sees torre either one way or the other puzzles me. they won with him, they lost with him. you shouldnt discount either side. i was really angry when showalter was let go (after those years of futility) but i dont think they would have won those 4 WS without joe torre as manager. But his post 2001 managing seemed very uninspired and even clickish and keeping him around too long and played favorites too much and that contributed greatly to the 2004 debacle.
    and while he didnt accept the offer to come back, calling it an insult was not fair.

    overall, you take the 4 WS and you maybe think about how to avoid a manager getting ‘stale’ in the job and you move on.

    from a guy who sat through the oscar gamble era, i still say thanks alot to joe torre.

  210. West Coast Yankee Fan January 11th, 2011 at 12:48 am

    LGY – last I heard, a manager doesn’t make trades, draft ball players, develop minor leaguers, etc. He plays the hand he is dealt to the best of his ability.

  211. West Coast Yankee Fan January 11th, 2011 at 12:50 am

    I guess I will live up to my reputation of appealing to authority figures by placing great credence in Jeter, Mariano, Posada and Pettitte’s opinions of Joe Torre.

  212. LGY January 11th, 2011 at 12:53 am

    LGY – last I heard, a manager doesn’t make trades, draft ball players, develop minor leaguers, etc. He plays the hand he is dealt to the best of his ability.

    *******

    I have been told results are the only thing that matter.

  213. Jerkface January 11th, 2011 at 12:54 am

    I have no penchant to appeal to authority figures

    But thats all you do? “Well Rosenthal MUST be respected they let him on TV!” Its an appeal to authority or irrelevant conclusion. Heyman or Rosenthal’s presence on TV doesn’t mean they are well respected or particularly good journalists.

    What insight do they have? Have you seen their analysis? Did you read Rosenthal’s erotic fan fiction about the 2009 Yankees season that had to be taken down off the FOX site because it was borderline insane and the Yankees ended up winning the World Series?
    Did you read Jon Heyman’s draft articles, showing his complete inability to analyze talent because that is not what he is good at or paid to do?

    The media is an enemy entity to players and management, how much more extra insight can reporters offer to the fans? Someone who is a shill, like Heyman for Boras might alert us to a player signing, but they can’t tell us Cashman’s plans. Their biggest advantage over bloggers is merely the ability to ask questions, but that doesn’t impart in them any great analytical ability regarding baseball.

    They don’t watch anymore baseball than I do, and specifically they cannot.

  214. Jerkface January 11th, 2011 at 12:56 am

    And let me tell you, I could easily do Heyman or Rosenthal’s job. Easy. Especially Rosenthal, he offers nothing of substance.

  215. Rich in NJ January 11th, 2011 at 12:56 am

    “LGY – last I heard, a manager doesn’t make trades, draft ball players, develop minor leaguers, etc. He plays the hand he is dealt to the best of his ability.”

    Remember this game?

    http://www.baseball-reference......6290.shtml

    Torre played Enrique Wilson in RF to send the message that he needed an OF.

    Result: They soon traded for Raul Mondesi.

    Torre’s love affair with Mendoza prevented them from trading for Jim Edmonds.

    Torre’s love affair with Todd Zeile kept on the roster long after he sucked.

    These are just a few examples of Torre’s terrible influence on the Yankees’ roster.

  216. Bo knows January 11th, 2011 at 12:57 am

    GreenBeret7 January 11th, 2011 at 12:39 am
    Doesn’t Showalter deserve any of the hits for allowing the Yankees to blow a 2-0 lead against the ’95 Mariners including blowing late leads in games #4 and #5? just as bad a sin was taking all of the credit for the season’s successes and none of the blame. I’m sure that his need for additional power didn’t sit well with GMS, either.

    —————————————–
    Absolutely.

    It just upsets me that history starts with St Joe.

  217. West Coast Yankee Fan January 11th, 2011 at 12:58 am

    Bizarre the animosity directed at a couple of baseball journalists. Really bizarre.

  218. West Coast Yankee Fan January 11th, 2011 at 12:59 am

    Jerkface January 11th, 2011 at 12:56 am

    And let me tell you, I could easily do Heyman or Rosenthal’s job. Easy. Especially Rosenthal, he offers nothing of substance.

    **********

    No you couldn’t.

  219. West Coast Yankee Fan January 11th, 2011 at 1:02 am

    Suit yourself guys. You can dislike Torre and Heyman and adore Cash all you want. Everyone has a right to their opinion.

  220. YsGuy January 11th, 2011 at 1:03 am

    as far as i heard it, the #1 scoop of this offseason was that a third team had entered into the lee sweepstakes. i’m pretty sure that was heyman.

    writing isnt really his bag, being connected is and it serves him and us pretty well, imo.

  221. Rich in NJ January 11th, 2011 at 1:05 am

    “Suit yourself guys. You can dislike Torre and Heyman and adore Cash all you want.”

    You should actually “adore’ Cashman because he was so deferential to Torre in roster construction. It wasn’t until 2005, that he had to force him to play someone…Robinson Cano. Yet another terrible move by Cashman.

  222. YsGuy January 11th, 2011 at 1:06 am

    wcyf, there is no you guys here. some of us like cash, some like torre, some like heyman, some are so so about one or the other.

    and dont confuse defending cashman’s non-moves this offseason with adoration. i like cashman, but certainly dont adore him.

  223. Rich in NJ January 11th, 2011 at 1:09 am

    btw, Torre was going to start Tony Fernandez over Jeter at SS in 1996 until Fernandez hurt his elbow in ST.

  224. West Coast Yankee Fan January 11th, 2011 at 1:09 am

    Fair enough YsGuy.

  225. West Coast Yankee Fan January 11th, 2011 at 1:12 am

    So we’re out on Soriano, Balfour and Bonderman. Fuentes and Rauch are still out there and it looks like maybe A. Jones will be the fourth outfielder. Still wondering what our rotation is going to look like. Just imagine if Nova doesn’t cut it and has a poor year.

  226. YsGuy January 11th, 2011 at 1:16 am

    rich, thats getting a little picky there. fernandez was an established player coming to the end of his career and jeter was a propsect trying to become a major leaguer. its not like torre thought jeter would never make it, he just thought going in to ST that the team would be better off with the veteran. thats not that crazy a thing to think and the important thing is that when they left florida, jeter was the SS.

  227. YsGuy January 11th, 2011 at 1:17 am

    wcyf, just imagine if hughes continues to improve and nova is an adequate #5

  228. West Coast Yankee Fan January 11th, 2011 at 1:23 am

    YsGuy that would be a good thing.

  229. Jerkface January 11th, 2011 at 1:33 am

    as far as i heard it, the #1 scoop of this offseason was that a third team had entered into the lee sweepstakes. i’m pretty sure that was heyman.

    But his third team wasn’t Philly, as he ruled them out, so much for that.

  230. Jerkface January 11th, 2011 at 1:34 am

    No you couldn’t.

    Yea, I could.

  231. West Coast Yankee Fan January 11th, 2011 at 1:40 am

    OK Jerkface, patting yourself on the back seems important to you. Far be it from me to try and deter you. Perhaps instead of just blogging; maybe you should take a crack at being a published journalist or try to get a gig on radio or television.

  232. Jerkface January 11th, 2011 at 1:42 am

    And work long hours for no pay and no appreciation? Hell no.
    Doesn’t change the fact that I could. Journalism requires almost no major skills, just the dedication to accept personal hardship in the face of doing what you want to do.

    I applaud all journalists for that, but please don’t try to glorify their job, especially hacks like Rosenthal and Heyman who don’t put out the kind of substance and quality that guys like Joe Posnanski do.

    I could not do what does, but Rosenthal or Heyman? Hell yea.

  233. West Coast Yankee Fan January 11th, 2011 at 1:54 am

    “Journalism requires almost no major skills”.

    Wow! Ok then.

  234. Jerkface January 11th, 2011 at 2:02 am

    Do you disagree? You need to be able to write in english and convey your own thoughts. Or am I mistaken and there are years of post-graduate courses for journalists to get their doctorates in trade-deadline analysis?

    Please, white knight communication and Journalism degrees, that will be amusing.

  235. Rich in NJ January 11th, 2011 at 2:08 am

    “rich, thats getting a little picky there. fernandez was an established player coming to the end of his career and jeter was a propsect trying to become a major leaguer. its not like torre thought jeter would never make it, he just thought going in to ST that the team would be better off with the veteran. thats not that crazy a thing to think and the important thing is that when they left florida, jeter was the SS.”

    The important thing is that Fernandez got hurt.

    Jeter wasn’t just some fungible prospect, he was one of the best in baseball.

    Given the Yankees’ history at the time, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to think that Jeter could have been traded if Fernandez was healthy and playing well.

    After all, George almost traded Rivera and Posada for David Wells in 1995:

    http://www.nytimes.com/1995/12.....038;src=pm

    That’s the problem with the Yankees. They always think that they are better off with a veteran. We are seeing it all over again with Montero.

    Maybe they should recall the fortuitous experience with Jeter and learn from it.

    So, no I don’t think it’s being picky at all.

  236. Jerkface January 11th, 2011 at 2:10 am

    That’s the problem with the Yankees. They always think that they are better off with a veteran. We are seeing it all over again with Montero.

    Maybe they should recall the fortuitous experience with Jeter and learn from it.

    So, no I don’t think it’s being picky at all.

    And especially with Torre in the later years, he didn’t want to waste his time with prospects. He played them sparingly and only as a last resort.

  237. Jerkface January 11th, 2011 at 2:13 am

    Anyone who thinks the manager and others don’t have an idea of or are involved in the front office’s proceedings should watch The Club and The Pen. Charlie and OZzie were both included in strategy meetings with the GM, with others present who I forget, and were all giving input as to potential moves.

    And Girardi himself is in contact with Cashman every day.

  238. YsGuy January 11th, 2011 at 2:18 am

    yes its being picky. you are talking about what the manager thought before the first ST game in his first ST camp with a new club after working the prior season on the west coast. you dont know that fernandez’s injury gave jeter the job, he could have won it outright, and you dont kinow they would have traded him if he hadnt made the team, they send mattingly back down and didnt trade him, did they? its just an interesting thought in retrospect vs. what actually happened (which is all that really matters in the end)

  239. Crawdaddy January 11th, 2011 at 5:44 am

    Reading WCYF rantings are too funny?

  240. Mike Ri January 11th, 2011 at 6:59 am

    Good Morning Everyone !

    Jack Curry of the YES Network tweets that while the Yankees continue to monitor the starting pitcher market, we shouldn’t expect them to sign Jeremy Bonderman. The Yanks showed interest in the right-hander about a week ago.

    ——————————-
    If not Bonderman . than who ??

  241. upstate kate January 11th, 2011 at 7:04 am

    good morning!
    too many posts to wade thru from last night!

  242. Gary January 11th, 2011 at 7:06 am

    Mike, I don’t think anyone has any idea. I think the hope in the Yankee front office is that despite the comments Andy will come back and if he does pitch well and stay healthy. I don’t see ptichers like Garcia, Millwood and Bonderman throwing the fear of god into opposing teams.

  243. Mike Ri January 11th, 2011 at 7:16 am

    Gary —

    I think the hope in the Yankee front office is that despite the comments Andy will come back and if he does pitch well and stay healthy.
    ——————-

    Gary , why wait though ? … Whats the harm in signing a pitcher or two in the meantime. You can’t have enough pitching. If these pitchers start signing and we are left still waiting on Pettite .. we’ll be in some deep trouble.

  244. Doreen January 11th, 2011 at 7:28 am

    Good morning, morning people.

    :)

  245. Gary January 11th, 2011 at 7:29 am

    Mike, I don’t think you are in the minority on that point. I think we are in deep trouble.

  246. upstate kate January 11th, 2011 at 7:38 am

    If Andy returns, then having Nova or some other young pitcher as the #5 guy should be fine. It is more problematic if Andy doesn’t come back.

  247. blake January 11th, 2011 at 7:41 am

    Im not sure any of the FA pitchers out there besides Pavano and Pettite are any better than what they have. Actually if Pettie retires and they cant work a trade before ST then I would prefer they just fill the back end of the rotation from within to start the season and then monitor the in season trade market. That’s not ideal of course but at least that way you are leaving things open and are throwing guys out there that have a chance to improve.

  248. BoJo January 11th, 2011 at 8:02 am

    Good morning folks

  249. BoJo January 11th, 2011 at 8:04 am

    Not much on the news wire, eh?

    Looks like Brad Penny is going to Detroit. Rumored contract–$1M for his arm and a penny for his thoughts.

  250. BoJo January 11th, 2011 at 8:06 am

    I disavow that last comment…need coffee.

  251. upstate kate January 11th, 2011 at 8:09 am

    good morning BoJo
    are you feeling better?

  252. MTU January 11th, 2011 at 8:09 am

    And if you don’t get your coffee you’ll self-destruct in five seconds, right ?

    :)

  253. Doreen January 11th, 2011 at 8:09 am

    There is truly nothing left to talk about…

    ;)

  254. MTU January 11th, 2011 at 8:11 am

    Kate-

    I’m posting these photos just for you since you like critters.

    Enjoy.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/cy.....TX9eHf3wE#

    :)

  255. BoJo January 11th, 2011 at 8:14 am

    Hi Kate–

    Still a little weak, but have to get back to work. Thanks for asking.

  256. blake January 11th, 2011 at 8:16 am

    MTU,

    Now if you got that close to a mountain lion that wasn’t stuffed Id be impressed ;)

  257. upstate kate January 11th, 2011 at 8:16 am

    Very nice MTU. We cruised thru the Valley of Fire on our way back to Vegas. We enjoyed the petroglyphs and the desert flowers, but Zion was much more majestic.

  258. BoJo January 11th, 2011 at 8:16 am

    Wow–that is some beautiful photography there MTU. Are you a professional?

  259. MTU January 11th, 2011 at 8:17 am

    Doreen-

    We can always talk about your new Tiguan.

    :)

  260. Doreen January 11th, 2011 at 8:17 am

    MTU -

    Wow!

  261. MTU January 11th, 2011 at 8:19 am

    Bojo-

    Nope. Just an interested observer.

    Glad to hear you are feeling better.

    :)

    Blake-

    So would I but I doubt I’d live to talk about it.

  262. MTU January 11th, 2011 at 8:19 am

    Doreen-

    Sometimes words just fail us, huh ?

    :)

  263. YsGuy January 11th, 2011 at 8:20 am

    here comes another foot of snow and my snow blowers still on the fritz….

  264. blake January 11th, 2011 at 8:20 am

    MTU,

    when I was at Glacier, those Rams and mountain goats would come down to parking lots and lick the salt off the cars…… Nice pics.

  265. MTU January 11th, 2011 at 8:21 am

    Kate-

    Zion is Majestic.

    I thought the blog needed a little pick me up.

    :)

  266. MTU January 11th, 2011 at 8:23 am

    Blake-

    Glacier is my favorite NP by far.

    It is the crown jewel of the US park system IMO.

    And I like going to the Sun, so to speak, even though most think I’m from Jupiter.

    ;)

  267. YsGuy January 11th, 2011 at 8:24 am

    im sure glad i dont live in queens rigth about now…

  268. blake January 11th, 2011 at 8:26 am

    MTU,

    Yea the “going to sun road” is pretty awesome……gives you a great snapshot of the park if you’re just passing through. As you know though, much of Glacier is off the beaten path. The history of how that road was built is pretty interesting……there are cars and people that have fallen off that have never been found I believe

  269. MTU January 11th, 2011 at 8:30 am

    Blake-

    The history of how many of the roads in the NP system is fascinating.

    I have nothing but the highest respect for those who planned, built and died so that the multitudes could have the opportunity to enjoy the places they opened up.

    Of course, I like the more remote places.

    And it is true that people have fallen and never been found.

    True here in Utah as well.

    When you were up at Glacier did you see Flathead lake, Kalispell, and Whitefish ?

    If not, I suggest another visit.

    ;)

  270. MTU January 11th, 2011 at 8:32 am

    edit: “were built”. It helps if you complete the sentence. Duh.

  271. MTU January 11th, 2011 at 8:36 am

    Blake-

    I’ve got a whole lot of stuff planned for this coming year.

    An awesome amount. Extremely ambitious schedule.

    I’ll be in hiking in the Tucson area next Month to kick it off.

    As always I’m really looking forward to it.

    :)

  272. blake January 11th, 2011 at 8:44 am

    MTU,

    yea, we drove to Kallispell at least once a week to eat or whatever and made it up to.Whitefish a few times as well. Whitefish is very nice. Watched July 4th fireworks at Flathead. I fished most of the lakes around the park and on the Blackfeet reservation while I was there.

  273. blake January 11th, 2011 at 8:45 am

    MTU,

    sounds great…..maybe Ill retire and come with ;)…..if only.

  274. MTU January 11th, 2011 at 8:47 am

    One more set from the local area.

    Enjoy.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/cy.....Zii9enRCQ#

    :)

  275. Joe from Long Island January 11th, 2011 at 8:48 am

    Good morning, all –

    Nothing to talk about? I’m still expecting a progress report on Doreen’s new car, as well as updates about the snow.

    Off to work. Later.

  276. MTU January 11th, 2011 at 8:49 am

    Blake-

    Yes. You should. I’d love to have you along.

    :)

  277. Mell January 11th, 2011 at 8:53 am

    jcrasnick Jerry Crasnick
    #Yankees stepping up pursuit of free agent pitcher Justin Duchscherer, source says

  278. MTU January 11th, 2011 at 8:54 am

    Mell-

    Is the “Duke of Hurl” healthy again ?

  279. Mell January 11th, 2011 at 8:58 am

    MTU:

    No idea.

  280. MTU January 11th, 2011 at 8:59 am

    He has been injured a lot in recent years.

    If he is healthy he would be a great low risk high upside pick up.

  281. Fran the original January 11th, 2011 at 9:01 am

    Good morning all. I’m back from Florida in time for more snow. What timing!

    Doreen, good luck with the new car.

    MTU, always good to see your pictures.

    Hope we get some Yankees news soon. At least I have the Jets to keep me occupied :)

  282. blake January 11th, 2011 at 9:02 am

    Duchscherer…….eh I guess.

  283. MTU January 11th, 2011 at 9:02 am

    Martin

    Feliciano

    Duchsherer

    and

    Rauch.

    I’m down with it.

    Let’s get er’ done.

    :)

  284. MTU January 11th, 2011 at 9:03 am

    And Jones.

    :)

  285. Mell January 11th, 2011 at 9:03 am

    “If he is healthy he would be a great low risk high upside pick up”

    Yeah, that’s about right. Two time allstar. Then again, Scott Cooper was a two time allstar. Nothing wrong with these kind of pickups. They sling enough against the wall, something’s gonna stick.

  286. YsGuy January 11th, 2011 at 9:22 am

    i just looked it up in the dictionary; healthy and duchsherer are antonyms…

  287. BIG AL January 11th, 2011 at 9:57 am

    I like the idea of Justin Duchscherer over the remaining FA pitchers.

  288. randy l. January 11th, 2011 at 10:03 am

    “here comes another foot of snow and my snow blowers still on the fritz….”

    you should get the new model i have .

    it’s called the Cashman2011

    it blows out a lot of hot air and guarantees to melt the snow by fourth of july

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