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Yankees and Jones still connected

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 10, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The Yankees are known to be in the market for a fourth outfielder, and the one name that keeps popping up is Andruw Jones.

Jon Heyman reported again today that the Yankees are in pursuit of the former Braves superstar turned role player. It’s a natural fit — Jones hits left-handed pitching and plays solid defense in the corners — but Heyman reports that the two sides are still figuring out the money.

Jones signed $500,000 deals, with incentives, the past two years.

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126 Responses to “Yankees and Jones still connected”

  1. Dee January 10th, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    I wonder the Yankees will target a utility INF as well or just go with one of the kids for the role.

  2. Doreen January 10th, 2011 at 5:36 pm

    Just checked the schedule to see when the River Dogs will be in Lakewood.

    Last week of April, 5 games in a row. I’m going to go to the Wednesday, April 27th game at 11 a.m. That time worked out for me perfectly last season. Can’t wait.

    :)

  3. YsGuy January 10th, 2011 at 5:44 pm

    “He wouldn’t have to start every game. Only 40 or so, which would make him an excellent backup catcher. The yankees faced 58 lefty starters in 2010. 54 in 2009.

    So 55-60 games at DH. 40-50 games at catcher (Like say… Andy and CC starts). 20-30 pinch hits.

    Actually now I’m pretty proud of this plan.”

    its an elegant plan, but i just dont see any way they do it. they told jorge to go home and get ready to be the dh, and then brought in martin. i think if you bring in a dh now, you would be jerking jorge around and pissing him off and causing some real clubhouse problems. they could do it, but i just dont see that happening. to me, jorge is the primary dh and arod & the other 30-somethings will get the rest of the dh ab’s.

  4. Frankg January 10th, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    Jones is a center fielder, isn’t he? Has he played the corners? What are his career hitting stats versus lefthanders?

  5. Bronx Jeers January 10th, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    I’d say he’s the best fit for them.

    I’d like them to get it done.

  6. YsGuy January 10th, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    you dont want to go by jone’s lifetime #’s. seems like there was some sort of ‘inflation’ of his earlier #’s, although i cant imagine what that might have been.

    last year he was good as a bench player vs. lefties, 86ab, 8 hr, .256/.373/.558

  7. mick January 10th, 2011 at 6:07 pm

    at that price he’s on our radar, he had pop against both leftys and rightys last year…looks like a no brainer, plays all 3 OF and well….do it.

  8. YsGuy January 10th, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    i dont think you’d see jones in cf. im quite sure gardner is a better option in cf now than jones, so he’d only be covering the corners.

  9. joeman January 10th, 2011 at 6:24 pm

    I wanted Jones here last year as the 4th OFer or even push Gardner for LF……but seeing him play a few times last year he put on a lot of weight & wondering what kind of shape he’s in now….I’ll would pass on him

  10. blake January 10th, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    Jones could play CF in a pinch but Im guessing both Gardner and Granderson would have to get hurt in the same game for that to happen. He can man the corners though and hit lefties so its not a bad fit.

  11. blake January 10th, 2011 at 6:27 pm

    Yes, a lot would depend on what shape Andrew reported to Tampa in …

  12. Yankee Trader January 10th, 2011 at 6:28 pm

    Previous article on buyout for Andruw Jones worked out with Dodgers-already getting 15M over 6 years.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....BHeadlines

  13. dan l January 10th, 2011 at 6:30 pm

    Andrew Jones STINKS!

  14. BoJo January 10th, 2011 at 6:30 pm

    Don’t judge Jones by his stats until you watch him play (via tapes) from last year.

    He gained a lot of weight…his defense in CF is poor, his defense in corners is average at best…his bat speed is slow…he had a good start the past 2 seasons and then fell off dramatically.

    This is not your father’s Andruw Jones.

  15. joeman January 10th, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    # BoJo January 10th, 2011 at 6:30 pm

    Don’t judge Jones by his stats until you watch him play (via tapes) from last year.

    He gained a lot of weight…his defense in CF is poor, his defense in corners is average at best…his bat speed is slow…he had a good start the past 2 seasons and then fell off dramatically.

    This is not your father’s Andruw Jones.
    —————————————————————————-
    isn’t that the truth

  16. blake January 10th, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    If it were the Andrew Jones of old he wouldn’t be considering a bench role…..I think everyone knows what he is at this point.

  17. BoJo January 10th, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    blake January 10th, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    If it were the Andrew Jones of old he wouldn’t be considering a bench role…..I think everyone knows what he is at this point.
    +++++++++++++
    I have a pretty good guess.

    He is a fat, bloated, unmotivated, former steroid-user who no longer has enough talent to play in the majors…but that’s just my guess.

  18. jackamir January 10th, 2011 at 6:40 pm

    Jones will get less than 200 abs. He could be a fine bench utility option. He would have to pass a physical and for some reason I believe an attitude adjustment would be essential. He was talented and still is but he needs like many others (Joba, for one) to report in better shape.

  19. BoJo January 10th, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    “but Heyman reports that the two sides are still figuring out the money.”
    ____________
    The only way the Yankees should take this guy is if he pays them.

  20. Jerkface January 10th, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    Andruw Jones used steroids? Link.

  21. PacoDooley January 10th, 2011 at 6:42 pm

    I want the yankees to go after Lastings Millidge. He’s got potential and is still very young. If his attitude is not a concern (always hard to tell from the outside of the game), then I would love to see what the Yankees coaching staff could do with him. Get him and Kevin Long together and you could have a significant talent to move around the outfield. That has the potential to be a fantastic four man OF. But his name is not often linked to the Yankees, probably because he will land a decent starting spot on a bad team.

  22. BoJo January 10th, 2011 at 6:42 pm

    jackamir January 10th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
    ++++++++++++++
    Have you actually seen this toad play in the last year?

  23. joeman January 10th, 2011 at 6:42 pm

    they don’t need that type of player….this is just grabbing at straws

  24. RMS January 10th, 2011 at 6:47 pm

    Don’t like Jones. I’d rather take a shot with Milledge or Reed Johnson.

  25. J. Alfred Prufrock January 10th, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    oJo January 10th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
    Don’t judge Jones by his stats until you watch him play (via tapes) from last year.

    He gained a lot of weight…his defense in CF is poor, his defense in corners is average at best…his bat speed is slow…he had a good start the past 2 seasons and then fell off dramatically.

    This is not your father’s Andruw Jones.

    ////

    Bojo – it is a crime how Jones let his talents go to waste.I know he had some big-time injuries,but he let himself go to pot.I don’t know if I ever saw an OF getting better reads than Jones when he was in shape.or able to hightall it like he could to shag shots even when playin so shallow.no one could catch up with a fly like that boy could.he’s fallen so far.unless he was on some kinda fitness kick and not beaten up,I’d have to pass on ths one.

  26. Yankee Trader January 10th, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    Andruw Jones is getting paid[buyout] 2.5M/year X 6 years. He has no motivation to clean up his act. Just resign Thames and use Gholson as a defensive replacement if needed.

  27. J. Alfred Prufrock January 10th, 2011 at 6:51 pm

    blake January 10th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
    If it were the Andrew Jones of old he wouldn’t be considering a bench role…..I think everyone knows what he is at this point.

    /////
    the Jones of old wud probably be the best centerfielder in baseball.no make that he WOULD be the best,& probably by a lot.

  28. Carlo January 10th, 2011 at 6:51 pm

    Pacodooley – we don’t know about his attitude?

    We know he is 25

    We know he is one of the youngest free agents ever

    We know he had been disciplined numerous times for doing dumb things

    We know he will play for his 4th team in 2011 in the brief period since he came into the league

    I think despite us not being in the locker room daily, we know his attitude isn’t good.

  29. J. Alfred Prufrock January 10th, 2011 at 6:53 pm

    I’m a big Golson fan.killer OF & if Long could lure something out of his bat,lookout.

  30. joeman January 10th, 2011 at 6:53 pm

    was just taking a look at that Sea roster ..that team is about as bad as it gets…..wonder what they would want for Franklin Gutierrez…..they also have a SP there thats pretty good

  31. Carlo January 10th, 2011 at 6:54 pm

    If one of our 3 outfielders goes down for 30+ games, who do all of you who hate jones want in your outfield everyday?

    Thames

    Jones

    Golson

    Essentially, these are your options.

  32. J. Alfred Prufrock January 10th, 2011 at 6:54 pm

    BoJo January 10th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
    jackamir January 10th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
    ++++++++++++++
    Have you actually seen this toad play in the last year?
    ///
    I saw him,it wasn’t pretty.hard to watch,really.No to Jones.

  33. BoJo January 10th, 2011 at 6:54 pm

    Yankee Trader January 10th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
    ++++++++++++
    I was just about to make that point…

    JAP–
    Agreed. The point YT made about motivation is the key in my mind…the guy is a sloth now, and hasn’t dedicated himself to recovering his former fitness. I personally suspect steroids are an issue, but have no proof.

    THis guy is over the hill imo. Not worth even discussing…but it won’t surprise me if they offer him a make good invite to ST like they did with Thames last year.

  34. joeman January 10th, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    Franklin Gutierrez or Golson

  35. BoJo January 10th, 2011 at 6:56 pm

    Carlo–

    I’ll take Golson, thank you. Offers best defense and can play CF…Offers best speed for PR…and I want to see how Kevin Long can help him harness his tools. He has talent.

  36. J. Alfred Prufrock January 10th, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    joeman – love the glove but gutierrez had an ugly yr at the plate,plus he’s never been one to walk much.

  37. BoJo January 10th, 2011 at 6:58 pm

    joeman January 10th, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    Franklin Gutierrez or Golson
    +++++++++++++++
    Huh? WHy would Seattle move him, and why would Yankees trade with them? And why give up what they would have tofor a 4th OFer?

    Is your point that they are equal in talent on defense?

  38. Carlo January 10th, 2011 at 6:59 pm

    Franklin Guttierez coming to yankees = pipedream

    Greg Golson being an adequate outfielder over an elongated stretch = pipedream

    I don’t get it…….this teams pitching is awful and yet people want greg golson to be the 4th outfielder. Gardner, wrist problem. Swisher, knee problem. Granderson, freak injury last year but one that does recur.

    And with this staff, we want to rely on greg golson to play often as a 4th outfielder?

  39. joeman January 10th, 2011 at 7:01 pm

    Golson should be the 4th OFer…let him play every day in ST & lets see what they have at the plate

  40. BoJo January 10th, 2011 at 7:02 pm

    Carlo–

    If one of their players goes down for the season, that obviously changes things to where Cashman needs to make a trade.

    But a regular OF and a 4th OFer are 2 different roles.

    Here’s a name to consider if injury occurs…Carlos Quentin

  41. BoJo January 10th, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    A trade for a starting corner OFer is not that hard to make.

  42. joeman January 10th, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    Carlo…slim pickings all over the place, SP,OF, utility …anything they want to trade for is going to cost them…this off-season is like a bad dream something like Ground Hog Day ..same crap every day

  43. Carlo January 10th, 2011 at 7:06 pm

    Joeman/bojo – this team has too many question marks as it is. They also have spent nothing all offseason. Adding a major league 4th outfielder is an easy low cost move. They need to sure up some things and depth is one of them. If andrew jones is signed, it will be a contract that can easily be dumped if he stinks.

  44. J. Alfred Prufrock January 10th, 2011 at 7:08 pm

    joeman January 10th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
    Golson should be the 4th OFer…let him play every day in ST & lets see what they have at the plate

    ///

    he’s still young,too.was pretty well regarded as a spect.totally agree the kid should get the treatment from long.

  45. J. Alfred Prufrock January 10th, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    Bojo – can we get the 2008 version?I’d be on board for that.

  46. jacksquat January 10th, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    Jones had a .931 OPS vs lefties last year. I’d say he can still hit, lefties at least, which is what he’d be for.

    He also had the 6th highest UZR/150 of all RF with more than 300 innings played.

    http://www.fangraphs.com/leade.....ason1=2010
    (sort by uzr/150)

  47. J. Alfred Prufrock January 10th, 2011 at 7:16 pm

    jack – if jones could be anything like the player he was rather than the shell i saw,I’d be all over this.now I didn’t see much of jones the shell but what I did see made me cringe.I’m not a fan of uzr any way.

  48. 108 stitches January 10th, 2011 at 7:17 pm

    Greg Golson will be given a long look in ST as will Brandon Laird. Golson can play any OF position with speed and an above average arm. Laird can play either corner OF plus 1st & 3rd base.
    Kevin Long will work hard with both.

  49. SAS January 10th, 2011 at 7:17 pm

    Personally, I’d rather see another big bat for the OF on an if necessary basis. I love the idea of Guerrero if he isn’t too expensive. I think he would love to play on a winning team again. Actually, he has been pretty lucky that way.

  50. YsGuy January 10th, 2011 at 7:17 pm

    guys, we’re not talking about jones for a starting job now. remember wynn last season. they brought him in and kept him around just in case gardner coudnt cut it. when they needed the roster spot, they cut him a check and sent him home. and he had a spot on the 40 man. jones would be a minor league contract with an invite and have to make the team. pretty low risk. if he’s out of shape or unmotivated, they will see that and send him out before the starters go 4 innings. those are not horrible #’s for a 4th OF if he can play the field.

  51. BoJo January 10th, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    jacksquat January 10th, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    UZR/150 takes a little while to catch up to latest performance…Jones was slowing down and his numbers in defense have been on the decline.

    I agree that at most he should get a minor league deal with invite to ST.

    108–I’m not sure how much Long works with rookies in ST…I don’t think he will have the kind of impact he could have if Golson or Laird were up all season.

  52. YsGuy January 10th, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    what is an ‘if necessary basis’? does that qualify as a roster spot or does he play in the cape cod league until we feel like he’s necessary? and what is ‘not too expensive,’ for a guy on an ‘if necessary basis?”

  53. BoJo January 10th, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    I think we’ve beaten the Andruw Jones topic to death. If he is just a minor league deal with invite to ST, there really isn’t much to talk about.

  54. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    Sign Damon or Manny and stop the nonsense.

  55. BoJo January 10th, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    I wonder if Thames will also be offered an invite..

  56. YsGuy January 10th, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    ok rich, but you be the one to tell jorge he’s not the dh now…

  57. BoJo January 10th, 2011 at 7:27 pm

    If Damon really wants to reach 3000 hits as he has mentioned more than once, why would he come to the Yankees? He needs a team that will give him 400 ABs.

  58. Ruby Tuesday January 10th, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    L . o . l .

    Sadly, Brian Cashman continues to provide a lot of laughs to me .

  59. BoJo January 10th, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    And Vlad or Thome would be fine if Jorge weren’t being paid $13M…they are not going to just eat Jorge’s contract or have him sit as backup catcher at that pay level.

  60. joeman January 10th, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    # Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    Sign Damon or Manny and stop the nonsense.
    ———————————————————————–
    this won’t solve the glaring need SP

  61. J. Alfred Prufrock January 10th, 2011 at 7:33 pm

    Po will earn that paycheck.

  62. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    “this won’t solve the glaring need SP”

    Yeah, but this thread is about Jones.

  63. blake January 10th, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    Damon is about 3 years of full playing time at 150 hits a year away from 3,000. It’s possible but not likely.

  64. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    “Sadly, Brian Cashman continues to provide a lot of laughs to me ”

    And you continue to do the same for us. Sweet.

  65. LGY January 10th, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    They also have spent nothing all offseason.

    *****

    Yeah, except for that 93 million they have spent nothing.

  66. joeman January 10th, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    # Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    “this won’t solve the glaring need SP”

    Yeah, but this thread is about Jones.
    —————————————————————————————-
    what are you the thread police

  67. Carlo January 10th, 2011 at 7:40 pm

    Ysguy – so we manage the team now to placate Posada? Is that correct?

  68. blake January 10th, 2011 at 7:40 pm

    I would make sure Damon isn’t willing to accept a bench role before I signed Jones……

  69. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 7:40 pm

    “Yeah, except for that 93 million they have spent nothing.”

    Whoa, compared to Carlo, I’m Jeter’s bff.

  70. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 7:41 pm

    “what are you the thread police”

    Dude, relax, I’m merely pointing out why I didn’t address SP in this thread.

    Post whatever you want, I don’t care if it’s even about baseball.

  71. joeman January 10th, 2011 at 7:45 pm

    again the Yankee problems are the SP…..giving up over 5 runs a game in the month of Sept and going 12-17……a fat 34 year old 4th OFer isn’t going to fix that…

  72. Tar January 10th, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    “what are you the thread police”

    no ma’am, we’re musicians.

  73. blake January 10th, 2011 at 7:48 pm

    Why would any 4th outfielder help a pitching staff….that doesn’t change the fact that you need one.

  74. joeman January 10th, 2011 at 7:49 pm

    # blake January 10th, 2011 at 7:48 pm

    Why would any 4th outfielder help a pitching staff….that doesn’t change the fact that you need one.
    ————————————————
    let the kid be the 4th OFer….

  75. Jerkface January 10th, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    .giving up over 5 runs a game in the month of Sept and going 12-17

    Technically the sept/oct starters gave up an average of 3.4 runs per game. Giving the team an average ERA of 4.79 including relievers.

  76. Jerkface January 10th, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    The relievers went 8 and 5, and the starters went 5 and 12 .

  77. joeman January 10th, 2011 at 7:51 pm

    # Jerkface January 10th, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    .giving up over 5 runs a game in the month of Sept and going 12-17

    Technically the sept/oct starters gave up an average of 3.4 runs per game. Giving the team an average ERA of 4.79 including relievers.
    —————————————–
    the pitching staff as a whole gave up over 5 runs a game……the SPers didn’t go very deep into many games

  78. UpState January 10th, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    A.Jones:
    Can’t quite get around on the fastball anymore ?
    Focus on driving the ball to right field.
    Short RF porch ?
    Could be decent.

  79. RMS January 10th, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    Manny can’t play the OF, has been injury prone lately, lost some power and never hustles. Manny, no thanks.

  80. YsGuy January 10th, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    no you dont manage the team to placate posada, but you dont decide the guy’s the dh (at $13M), add a starting catcher, then bring in another $5M+ dh.

  81. Erica in NY January 10th, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    Didn’t the Yankees prove last season that signing multiple bargain basement back-up outfielders over the more quality Johnny Damon wasn’t the best idea?

    (Yes, Randy Winn and Thames. I am talking to YOU)

  82. Jerkface January 10th, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    Sept/Oct was not a banner month for the offense, scoring an average of 4.73 runs per game. See now if they had a healthy and awesome offense, scoring 5+ runs per game. The pitching would not have been a problem.

    (remember that ERA is the amount of runs that would be given up if the pitcher went 9 full innings. I think everyone would pay lots of money for a pitch if he were guaranteed to go 6 IP every night and give up 3 runs, that is a 4.50 ERA but he’d likely keep the team in every game. Unfortunately pitchers who pitch to a 4.50+ era generally don’t do that. They are good for some starts, average for some starts like 6 and 3, but then they are horrendous for others completely putting the team out of the game, that is where the negative value of a high ERA starter comes from. )

  83. Erica in NY January 10th, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    SIGN JOHNNY DAMON :-)

  84. joeman January 10th, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    gave up 150 runs in 29 games as a staff

  85. J. Alfred Prufrock January 10th, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    Erica – didn’t Damon turn down the yanks?I can’t remember that whole thing.Thames did his job for the team I would say.I’m not against resigning Damon,mind you.

  86. YsGuy January 10th, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    thames ($.9M) .288/.350/.481; damon ($8M) .271/.355/.401

    im talking to YOU erica…

  87. YsGuy January 10th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    i guess it was the .005 higher obp that earned him the extra $7.1M. or his stellar defense.

  88. blake January 10th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    A bench of Damon, Nunez, Laird, and Cervelli would pretty much have all bases covered.

  89. J. Alfred Prufrock January 10th, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    the positive on JD is he can hit lefthanded pitching which could come in handy with Gardy & Grandy not being so great at it.

  90. Erica in NY January 10th, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    YsGuy January 10th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
    thames ($.9M) .288/.350/.481; damon ($8M) .271/.355/.401

    im talking to YOU erica…

    ***********

    Thames wasn’t an every day player. He was a highly specialized back up outfielder whose defense was so poor it made Johnny Damon look good.

    And yes, I am talking to YOU ;-)

  91. J. Alfred Prufrock January 10th, 2011 at 8:04 pm

    it would be kinda strange having Damon only as a bench player though,esp in a park he hits so well in & has some power in.

  92. blake January 10th, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    Thames is unlikely to repeat that season and absolutely cannot play the outfield. Damon wont make 8 million again, could bounce back somewhat in YS, and can still play adequate LF on an every now and then basis.

  93. UpState January 10th, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    Thames was the better deal for 2010.

  94. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    “thames ($.9M) .288/.350/.481; damon ($8M) .271/.355/.401″

    I think it’s reasonable to think that Damon’s power numbers were suppressed by his ill-advised decision to play home games at Comerica instead of NYS.

  95. J. Alfred Prufrock January 10th, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    Thames was supposed to be a platoon player & he excelled against LHP.that’s what we wanted,that’s what he delivered.Marcus,an original yankee :D.

  96. UpState January 10th, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    Damon could take Thames’ role at $900,000.
    Then we could compare value.
    Fair enuf.

  97. J. Alfred Prufrock January 10th, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
    “thames ($.9M) .288/.350/.481; damon ($8M) .271/.355/.401?

    I think it’s reasonable to think that Damon’s power numbers were suppressed by his ill-advised decision to play home games at Comerica instead of NYS.

    ///

    it was predictable,yea.first thing you say when you hear he’s a tiger is, well, johnny, there goes your power.he will hit HRs in YS if signed.

  98. blake January 10th, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    Thames is going to want more money than 2010, Damon will command less money than 2010.

  99. UpState January 10th, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    Damon.
    $9000,000
    That’s about it.

  100. UpState January 10th, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    J. Damon.
    $900,000
    That’s about it.

  101. YsGuy January 10th, 2011 at 8:12 pm


    Thames wasn’t an every day player. He was a highly specialized back up outfielder whose defense was so poor it made Johnny Damon look good.”

    NOTHING could make damon’s defense look good, first off, and secondly backup OF is the job that was available on the yankees. damon went somewhere that would allow him to start (at least until mid august when they just couldnt stand to put him out there anymore (during another 2nd half slide.)

  102. UpState January 10th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    $9,000.000 — bit too much.

  103. Jerkface January 10th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    gave up 150 runs in 29 games as a staff

    What numbers are you looking at?

    2010 Yankees Pitching Splits Baseball-reference http://www.baseball-reference......;year=2010

    Sept/Oct Games Started, 30 Games, 168.1 IP 103 ER
    Sept/Oct Games Relieved 30 Games 104.1 IP 42 ER

  104. joeman January 10th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    am I wrong but are they not looking for a RH bat

  105. blake January 10th, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    My guess is that Thames will ask for 2 or 3 million and Damon 5 or 6. The difference between their salaries last year was substantial …..I doubt it will be so much this year.

  106. YsGuy January 10th, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    damon hit something like 8 Hr’s the second half of 2009, then 8 all of last season. (they do play half thier games away from comerica dont they?) to infer that he will be a HR hitter at YS this year is a joke.

  107. joeman January 10th, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    Damon from medium LF = 5 bounces and a roll to HP

  108. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    “NOTHING could make damon’s defense look good”

    Did you see Jerry Hairston, Jr. played the OF for the Yankees in 2009? He made Damon look good.

  109. blake January 10th, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    Damon’s defensive liabilities are overstated…..he never could throw.

    Actually I wish they could devise a way to get Vlad enough ABs to accept a one year deal.

  110. YsGuy January 10th, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    what are you people doing with the dh we have now?

  111. blake January 10th, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    The DH we have now would DH some, catch a little, and rest some so as to keep him.from getting hurt.

  112. YsGuy January 10th, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    lets face it, they are not going to bring in either damon or thames to play the field, they both suck. if either comes, its as a bat off the bench. thames is RH, cheaper and has experience hitting off the bench. damon is costly, LH and has never been a bench player.

    the reason they’re looking at jones is because unlike those two, he can play the OF.

  113. blake January 10th, 2011 at 8:25 pm

    Damon is still a better player than Jones….and how expensive will he really be. He got 8 million last year and his value has taken a big hit and the market has ton of DH options available.

  114. Erica in NY January 10th, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    YsGuy January 10th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
    damon hit something like 8 Hr’s the second half of 2009, then 8 all of last season. (they do play half thier games away from comerica dont they?) to infer that he will be a HR hitter at YS this year is a joke.

    **************

    Ironically, one of those 8 was AT Yankee Stadium. Or 12.5% of his homeruns for you stat heads.

    I just got home and have a lot to do tonight, so I am bowing out of this conversation. Have a good night!

  115. pat January 10th, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    jimcallisBA Second-best. Went from 19 to 4 in our farm rankings. #Yankees went from 22 to 5. @shawnlp: did #jays have the biggest one year improvement?

  116. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    “jimcallisBA Second-best. Went from 19 to 4 in our farm rankings. #Yankees went from 22 to 5. @shawnlp: did #jays have the biggest one year improvement?”

    Don’t tell randy.

  117. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    Looking at Callis’ tweets I see he has Montero as a top four prospect.

    So, if Madden’s “report” is true that Cashman offered Montero for Soria, randy is actually right about Cashman.

  118. blake January 10th, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    If Cashman offered Montero for Soria I may join Randy in his crusade :)

  119. DocTodd January 10th, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    Dammit Cashman, pull the friggin trigger! Make it happen, get er done!

  120. YsGuy January 10th, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    jones 2010: 287 ab, 19 hr, 48 rbi .230/.341/.486. damon was 539 ab 8 hr, 51 rbi. .271/.355/.401. and again jones is a RH bat with experience coming off the bench.

    jones was coming off the bench and provided alot more power. and again he’s a RH bat. damon just doesnt make sense for this team other than that people really really like him (me too!)

  121. blake January 10th, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    I just find it highly unlikely that he did….

  122. raymagnetic January 10th, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    There is no way Moore would have turned down a Montero for Soria trade. Therefore I don’t believe that story is true is the least.

    Doc Halladay, Cliff Lee, Joakim Soria, one of these things is not like the others…..

  123. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    I agree, blake.

    I really don’t like that Montero’s name is floated in so many rumors. I think he should be an untouchable, at least until Sanchez is ready, which is years away.

  124. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    I wouldn’t have traded Montero for Halladay either because of his age.

  125. J. Alfred Prufrock January 10th, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    Rich in NJ January 10th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
    Looking at Callis’ tweets I see he has Montero as a top four prospect.

    So, if Madden’s “report” is true that Cashman offered Montero for Soria, randy is actually right about Cashman.

    ///

    To hell with that.if Madden’s report is true, Cashman should be fired. Fired.

  126. J. Alfred Prufrock January 10th, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    raymagnetic January 10th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
    There is no way Moore would have turned down a Montero for Soria trade. Therefore I don’t believe that story is true is the least.

    Doc Halladay, Cliff Lee, Joakim Soria, one of these things is not like the others…..
    ////

    raymag – I agree,it can’t be true.I’m not a Cashfile,not a Cashphobe. I just can’t believe he’d do that & like you say,that Moore would reject it.maybe the DN told Madden they had space to fill.

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