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Yankees organizational depth: Center field

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 13, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

A little more than a year ago, the Yankees sacrificed their perceived center fielder of the future to obtain a proven center fielder of the future (and the present). Within months of the trade, the Yankees watched Austin Jackson get off to a terrific start in Detroit while Curtis Granderson struggled in New York. By the end of the season, the tide had shifted, and now the Yankees are left hoping Granderson’s second-half momentum carries into 2011.

In the big leagues
The Yankees gave up a lot to land Granderson. He was seen as a plus defensive player with unusual power for a center fielder, and he was also significantly more proven than Jackson, whose lack of power and strikeout totals were obvious concerns. Granderson finished last season by hitting .261/.356/.564 in his final 48 games, and he carried that into a terrific postseason. The Yankees are one of the few teams with two legitimate big league center fielders — Brett Gardner is also more than capable in center — but there’s no question Granderson will be the everyday man at the position. The only question is whether he’ll continue to improve as he steps further into what should be the prime of his career.

On the verge
Greg Golson and Colin Curtis are able to play a role in the big leagues right now. They proved that last season, and although neither got much time in center field at Yankee Stadium, both are able to play the position. Curtis and Golson seem likely to go into spring training competing with Jordan Parraz to be the Yankees fifth outfielder (if the Yankees carry five outfielders). Coming up behind them is one of the great wild cards of the Yankees system. Melky Mesa has tools to spare — arm, speed, power — but he also struck out 297 times the past two seasons, and his .260 average and .338 on-base percentage last season were both career highs, by a lot. If he makes progress, Mesa could be a legitimate everyday player in the big leagues. If not, he could top out at Double-A.

Deep in the system
Abraham Almonte is still on the prospect radar after a injury shortened season in Tampa — my friend Patrick Teale has always been very high on Almonte — but most of the Yankees young center field talent is coming up from the very lowest levels. Slade Heathcott, the Yankees first-round pick in ’09, didn’t put up big numbers in Charleston last year, but he’s still very young with considerable tools and talent. If Heathcott returns to Charleston this season, he could be joined in the outfield by Eduardo Sosa, a natural center fielder who’s bat has yet to match his glove. A half step behind them is last year’s fourth-round pick Mason Williams, another super-athletic kid taken out of high school. There is a lot of raw talent and athleticism here, but that talent has a long way to go. It’s just as you’d expect from this position in the lower levels.

Organizational depth chart
My own rough guess. It’s far too early for the Yankees to settle on who will be where next season.
New York: Curtis Granderson
Scranton/WB: Greg Golson
Trenton: Melky Mesa
Tampa: Abe Almonte
Charleston:
Slade Heathcott

The true center field depth chart in New York is two names deep: Granderson and Gardner. Both are plus defenders, and the Yankees showed last season that if Granderson gets hurt, Gardner will immediately slide over from left field. Golson and Curtis can certainly handle the position, but as long as at least one of Granderson and Gardner is healthy, there will be no reason for anyone else to see significant time in center field.

As for the minor leagues, the system is full of outfielders who are able to handle center field, it’s a matter of prioritizing that playing time. Curtis will get some center field time in Triple-A, and Damon Sublett could get some time in Double-A. It gets a little more tricky in the lower levels depending on assignments. Whether he’s in Tampa or Charleston, Heathcott will almost certainly be the priority in center field, but Sosa, Williams and Gumbs are coming up behind him and also need time at the position. If the Yankees decide Heathcott needs a little more Low A time — that’s how I have it predicted, at least to start the season — Sosa could see significant time in the outfield corners for the first time. If Heathcott does open in Charleston, the best-case scenario would be for him to finish in Tampa.

Associated Press photo of Granderson and Gardner, headshots of Granderson, Mesa and Almonte

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91 Responses to “Yankees organizational depth: Center field”

  1. ac1 January 13th, 2011 at 5:11 pm

    Too optimistic to be better than the royals?? And CAIRO is cool, but it predicts the Yankees to be worse on offense and pitching than 2010, and I just don’t see that.

    __

    Also they were off a few games last year and had us in 3rd place.

  2. Wave Your Hat January 13th, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    “Also they were off a few games last year and had us in 3rd place.”

    No that’s incorrect, the final CAIRO projections had the Yanks winning the AL East with 97.7 wins:

    http://www.rlyw.net/index.php/…..o_edition1

    So SG’s heart was in the right place.

  3. Jerkface January 13th, 2011 at 5:16 pm

    Pecota had the yankees in third place.

  4. blake January 13th, 2011 at 5:21 pm

    Name the teams in the AL that are better than the Yankees on paper right now.

  5. UpState January 13th, 2011 at 5:21 pm

    Just a statistical perspective on a few names that usually get mentioned here :

    Mitre……….54 IP……43 Hits….29K’s….3.33 ERA….1.093 WHIP

    Fuentes…..48 IP……31 Hits….47 K’s….2.81 ERA…..1.069 WHIP

    Wheeler…..48 IP……36 Hits….46 K’s….3.35 ERA….1.076 WHIP

    Balfour……..55 IP…..43 Hits….56 K’s….2.28 ERA….1.084 WHIP

    Rauch………57 IP…..61 Hits….46 K’s….3.12 ERA…..1.301 WHIP

    …..the lower StrikeOut totals gives the impression that Mitre was a significantly less of a pitcher in 2010 than these ‘names’

  6. Wave Your Hat January 13th, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    blake, that’s just asking for trouble…

  7. Jerkface January 13th, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    Name the teams in the AL that are better than the Yankees on paper right now.

    The Red Sox and thats about it.

  8. blake January 13th, 2011 at 5:26 pm

    I agree….Red Sox is the only one and that’s only if they stay healthy……

  9. Jason22 January 13th, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    Chad one more name to stick in there for centerfield, he will only be on the GCL team, but he might have as much talent as any Yankee prospect, meaning all 5 tools, and that is Ravel Santana.

    Ask Patrick about him, or Mark Newman and be ready to be impressed.

    This besides pitching and catcher is the deepest postional depth the Yankees have.

    Almonte, Heathcott, Sosa, Williams and Santana are all big time talents, as much as the Yankees have skyrocketed up the Prospects charts this year, if these kids play to their abilities no team can match them.

    Mesa is more of a right fielder even though he can be a center fielder, but because of his arm, he is more a right fielder.

    Oh and Santana has just as a good of an arm as Mesa, which is scary.

  10. LGY January 13th, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    Guys, I wasn’t predicting Nova would throw 200 innings next year.

    Just that he is capable of going out there and pitching without any restriction and that fatigue won’t be a big factor like it was last year with Hughes. I was saying that this lack of restriction will benefit Nova.

    Thanks for covering for me on that one Face.

  11. randy l. January 13th, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    “The Red Sox and thats about it.”

    twins are better if pavano re -signs with them.

    morneau missed half a year and the yankees only beat them by a game in 2010.

    yankee pitching looks to be worse than last year.

    twins pitching with pavano is better.

    of course no team has played a game so no one is really better until they play the games.

  12. blake January 13th, 2011 at 5:56 pm

    Randy,

    The Yanks are better at nearly every position on the field and Ill take Sabathia and Hughes over Liriano and Pavano…..the rest of the rotation is up for debate but I still think the Yanks are better overall…..with room to improve.

  13. Jerkface January 13th, 2011 at 5:56 pm

    twins are better if pavano re -signs with them.

    morneau missed half a year and the yankees only beat them by a game in 2010.

    yankee pitching looks to be worse than last year.

    twins pitching with pavano is better.

    of course no team has played a game so no one is really better until they play the games.

    On paper the twins are worse. They lost rauch, fuentes, hudson, thome, punto, and JJ Hardy. Their back end is a mishmash of guys who are just as likely to throw a 5 ERA as any of the yankee pitchers and their offense isn’t as good. They will be starting a japanese import at SS or 2B and Alexi Casilla at SS or 2B.

    They are no in way better than the Yankees on paper.

  14. MConti January 13th, 2011 at 5:56 pm

    Didn’t PETCOA at some point last year pick the Yankees to finish 3rd?

    As for the Twins, with their roster and staff, if everyone stays healthy they should win the Central. The White Sox could challenge for the WC.

    Again, everyone is expecting the Yankees to do nothing but regress while Boston will see marked improvements from Beckett because of his “ultra-competitiveness” (Buster Olney) which somehow abandoned him last year and Lackey is done with his adjustment period.

    Too bad the Yankees didn’t hold on to Vazquez because he’d be done with his adjustment period too this year….

    Let the season play out and see where the Yankees are June 1st. A team with a boatload of prospects and cash during the season that may need a piece or two to complete solidify a playoff spot is dangerous thing.

    I am concerned about the back end of the staff, but there is still time for the off-season to play out and eventually these highly touted prospects in the upper levels of the system have to produce, be traded or fall off the map, right?

  15. Jerkface January 13th, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    Although I will say this, the Twins have a much better shot at winning the Central than the Yankees.

  16. MConti January 13th, 2011 at 5:58 pm

    that should have read pecota…

  17. Jerkface January 13th, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    Arbitration stuff is going to go down this weekend, so we will start to see some movement I think.

  18. joeman January 13th, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    Nova will have to improve a lot this year to get himself 10 wins, that once around the order thing doesn’t cut it

  19. Jerkface January 13th, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    Jan. 5-15, 2011
    Salary arbitration filing period

    Jan. 18, 2011
    Salary arbitration figures exchanged

    Feb. 1-18, 2011
    Salary arbitration hearings

    Players can be had during this time due to the arbitration process

  20. BoJo January 13th, 2011 at 6:07 pm

    Jerkface January 13th, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    Although I will say this, the Twins have a much better shot at winning the Central than the Yankees.
    ++++++++++++++++
    It all comes back to how they develop pitchers…

  21. tyanksfan36 January 13th, 2011 at 6:08 pm

    joeman

    Did Nova have issues in AAA with getting through the order a second or third time or do you think his issues came from the fact he was up there in innings(which is my thinking)?

  22. randy l. January 13th, 2011 at 6:08 pm

    “They are no in way better than the Yankees on paper.”

    you forget the twins intangibles.

    they can’t be measured on paper.

    plus they’ll get a lot more help from the minors when they need help like they always do with players that know how to play twins baseball.

  23. blake January 13th, 2011 at 6:11 pm

    I actually think the teams that are closest to the Yanks are the Tigers and ChiSox. They both have holes but are pretty well rounded with good rotations.

  24. BoJo January 13th, 2011 at 6:12 pm

    Here is list of players eligible for arbitration…some of those pitchers might be available as suggested earlier

    http://bizofbaseball.com/index.....;Itemid=65

  25. have a cigar January 13th, 2011 at 6:19 pm

    Just when you thought this off-season couldn’t get any better, that ever-so-interesting Yankees/Twins debate is rekindled.

    How awesome!

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  26. Jerkface January 13th, 2011 at 6:21 pm

    plus they’ll get a lot more help from the minors when they need help like they always do with players that know how to play twins baseball.

    .197 .237 .296 .533 Drew Butera
    .230 .293 .379 .672 Matt Tolbert
    .146 .143 .317 .460 Trevor Plouffe
    .194 .295 .250 .545 Jose Morales
    .179 .233 .179 .412 Ben Revere

    47.2 IP 5.29 ERA Alex Burnett
    29 IP 5.28 ERA Jeff Manship
    4.2 IP 7.7 ERA Anthony Slama

    The Twins JUST KNOW BASEBALL, BABY!

  27. blake January 13th, 2011 at 6:30 pm

    Leiter is awesome on TV…especially when doing demonstrations.

  28. BoJo January 13th, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    Jerkface—but they’ll get all the time in the world to develop, so don’t short-change them….

  29. MTU January 13th, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    It’s time to get this season started.

  30. blake January 13th, 2011 at 6:38 pm

    Buster_ESPN Talked to Grady Sizemore; he just started hitting off a tee this week. Very, very excited to get going. On track to be ready by Opening Day.

  31. bdog375 January 13th, 2011 at 6:38 pm

    People never seem to mention that the career OPS of Granderson is 40 points higher than Crawford. And he plays CF instead of leftfield. Don’t forget the difference in cost too!

  32. Jerkface January 13th, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    Jerkface—but they’ll get all the time in the world to develop, so don’t short-change them….

    Unless they happen to be good while developing giving them all that time doesn’t do anything. Then the twins will just trade them or let them go in FA. 30-40% of their payroll the next 3 years is tied to Morneau and Mauer.

  33. Jerkface January 13th, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    The twins really need players who come up and are aces almost immediately. The Central has 3 100 mil payroll teams that will always be right around each others talent level.

  34. LathamJoe January 13th, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    My nephew, who plays in the Detroit Tigers system, tells me that Ivan Nova had some of the filthiest stuff that he saw in AAA last season.
    I definitely think that IPs had a lot to do with his late season ineffectiveness. However, there is also the troubling MLB investigation last August about him and fellow teammate De la Rosa injecting themselves with “vitamin B-12″. Could the fact that the “injections” stopped, have something to do with Nova’s lack of effectiveness after
    4-5 innings?

  35. BoJo January 13th, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    Jerkface January 13th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
    ++++++++++
    Uh–you didn’t catch the sarcasm?

  36. Jerkface January 13th, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    I believe the issue wasn’t the substance being injected but that personal injections were not allowed.

  37. Jerkface January 13th, 2011 at 6:51 pm

    Uh–you didn’t catch the sarcasm?

    Hard to catch subtle sarcasm, got to keep on my toes with all these twins fans lurking around.

  38. BoJo January 13th, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    I have to say I like the prospects the team has for the OF….I hope they develop quickly.

  39. BoJo January 13th, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    NP

  40. BoJo January 13th, 2011 at 6:56 pm

    There are some interesting pitchers on that list of arb eligible players…

  41. Carl January 13th, 2011 at 6:58 pm

    Cano is the man.

  42. blake January 13th, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    I think Nova was tired and inexperienced down the stretch. If he gets a little more consistent with his curveball and with runners on base then he could hold down the #5 spot very well in 2011.

  43. Tom in N.J. January 13th, 2011 at 7:01 pm

    I’m liking Bearded Cano…

  44. Doreen January 13th, 2011 at 7:01 pm

    Erin -

    Cano looks great. Sporting a neat beard. Cervelli & Nunez are down in the DR working out with Cano. Tonight was just a preview. The interview is on next week’s Hot Stove. Looks to be very, very good. (Cervelli has been there for weeks; didn’t even go home for Xmas.)

  45. GreenBeret7 January 13th, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    Erin/Erica, http://www.yesnetwork.com will be putting up Hotstove by tomorrow morning. The piece on Cano was just a 2 minute piece, a highlight to a full episode on him next week.

  46. Jerkface January 13th, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    Guys the Yankees should try to get:

    Tom Gorzelanny – Throws lefty and kind of sucks, but is better than Mitre
    Sean Marshall - Make him a starter!
    Anibal Sanchez – Probably too hard to get
    Wandy Rodriguez – Get them to throw in Keppinger too! Would be a type a after next year.
    Chad Billingsley – would be a big get, and expensive

    Seems like they need to be dealing with the Cubs honestly

  47. GreenBeret7 January 13th, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    LathemJoe, is your nephew Casper Wells? I saw a few of his games on internet and he’s a good fielder with a lot of power.i

  48. Doreen January 13th, 2011 at 7:06 pm

    Chad -

    It sounds like there are some promising prospects in the outfield for the Yankees. Can’t wait to see some of them.

    I’ll get a chance to see the Sea Dogs in April when they come up to Lakewood, and I hope to get to several Trenton games this season.

    Perhaps I’ll try to plan a trip up to SWB, too. Maybe my sister will go with me. I think there’s outlet shopping nearby. It could be a fun weekend!

  49. LathamJoe January 13th, 2011 at 7:09 pm

    “I believe the issue wasn’t the substance being injected but that personal injections were not allowed”

    You’re correct, Jerkface. I believe the concern was why two teammates decided to inject themselves with a “legal substance” (B-12) when they could have easily got it from the team doctor. I’ve never heard about the outcome of the MLB investigation.

  50. GreenBeret7 January 13th, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    I don’t like the Nova injection stuff, but, I’m positive that he’s been tested in the minors as well as in NY. Not really concerned about that. With his spring training innings and ML and AAA, he was over 200 innings which is a considerable jump over his previous high.

  51. DocTodd January 13th, 2011 at 7:11 pm

    Another episode of Yankee Cold Fridge…..I hope Cashman gives these poor hosts something to talk about one of these Thursday nights……

  52. LathamJoe January 13th, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    Yes, GB7. Thanks for the comment.
    Cap has worked his tail off for the past two seasons and we’re hoping that he’ll at least get a share of RF with Boesch this season.

  53. Doreen January 13th, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    Make that the River Dogs, not the Sea Dogs. I get a little befuddled at times. :?

  54. Nick in SF January 13th, 2011 at 7:16 pm

    Were Jerkface and lgy sleeping on the job?

    “It was a pointed strategic decision to put all their eggs in the Cliff Lee basket and to do so with an almost wanton arrogance that didn’t take into the possibility that he would turn down a substantial offer from the Yankees.”

    Is there some proof that Cashman never considered that Lee might sign elsewhere? And that he did so with ‘almost wanton arrogance’?

    “Bottom line is on this level, excuses do not matter at all. Results are what matter. A GM has to get the job done, especially one with $210 million dollars in chips in front of him.”

    And what were the 2011 Yankee season results?

    “I don’t believe the above is gratuitous Cashman bashing. I think it is a fair and reasonable critique.”

    Of course you do.

  55. GreenBeret7 January 13th, 2011 at 7:17 pm

    One other guy down at Trenton last year that plays a good center field, though he’s a corner outfielder/1st baseman is Daiel Brewer. Speed, developing power and a strong arm. If Mesa continues cutting the strikeouts, he’s almost a Granderson clone. Love that power/speed and defense. He’s another that can play both corners really well. A center fielder with a right fielder’s arm. Elliott Maddox was the last Yankee center fielder that you could say that about.

  56. GreenBeret7 January 13th, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    Lathem, has he always been a right fielder or does he play a lot of center field, too? He’s aggressive as Hell out there and throws well.

  57. m1kew January 13th, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    Watching YES now with Jack Curry in the DR watching Cano work out. Pretty interesting stuff (including how Cano’s work ethic has improved so much). But the thing that was most interesting to me was that E. Nunez and Cervelli were there also working under Cano’s watchful eye. They were there because Cano convinced them that working out in the off season was important to his own improvement. Cervelli said he had been there for 6 straight weeks (including not going home for Christmas) and that being there was the smartest thing he had ever done in baseball.

  58. West Coast Yankee Fan January 13th, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    Nick in SF January 13th, 2011 at 7:16 pm – I understand well reasoned and intellectually sound criticism of Cashman is hard for you to deal with. Whenever someone asks one for proof when you give an opinion it’s quite revealing as to their agenda.

    But hey. You are certainly entitled to yours. Winn, Johnson, Vazquez, Park, Martin, Feliciano. Awesome!

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