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Decision makers, relievers and a few links

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 15, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Reports of a divided Yankees front office continue to surface in the wake of the Rafael Soriano signing. It might not be a huge issue — baseball people disagree all the time — and it should come as no surprise that the people in charge of the money ultimately have the ability to spend it as they see fit. Brian Cashman might have disagreed, but he reportedly didn’t try to stand in the way when it became clear that ownership wanted to make the move, and Cashman reportedly still has the “full backing” of the Steinbrenners.

Frankly, from the very beginning, the Soriano signing never seemed like a Cashman signing. It goes against his bullpen strategy of the past three years, and it goes against his public comments of the previous week. But in the end, this is not his team, and if ownership wants to make a move, ownership can make a move.

Some other notes and links:

• Of course, good perspective on the Soriano situation comes from Tyler Kepner, who writes that at some point — probably when the signing becomes official — Cashman will have to address the perception of an organizational split, as well as the perception that he wasn’t honest when he said the Yankees would not sacrifice a first-round pick this winter. Kepner also calls the Soriano signing “a clear indictment of (Joba) Chamberlain.”

• Just a few words of my own on Chamberlain: Cashman seems to believe Chamberlain can once again be a reliable and possibly dominant reliever. Cashman seems to like Chamberlain in that spot. It seems to be ownership — and the fan base — that’s not so convinced.

• Speaking of Chamberlain, today the New York Post quoted a talent evaluator who said Chamberlain has value on the trade market but, “in the past two years his stuff has gone backwards.” The source said that there are still “some people” who believe Chamberlain can be a Major League starter.

• In a mailbag, Padres beat writer Corey Brock reports that San Diego is not expected to pursue former Yankees utility man Jerry Hairston Jr. Brock guesses that Hairston will get roughly $2 million on the free agent market.

The A’s are reportedly in the running for Brian Fuentes. This news comes just one day after they agreed to terms with Grant Balfour. Oakland already has a very good young rotation, and it’s added some solid pieces to its weak lineup, now the A’s seem to be focused on building an awfully good bullpen leading up to young closer Andrew Bailey.

Associated Press photo of Cashman

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156 Responses to “Decision makers, relievers and a few links”

  1. GreenBeret7 January 15th, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    I look at the Cashman vs Steinbrenners as nothing but white noise. I doubt that there’s a move made that isn’t oked by the Steinbrenners. Given their heritage, it’s surprising that they aren’t more publically vocal about their preferences on player acquisitions. I obviously have no issues with what they say. I only watch and root. I’m sure there were other disagreements in the last three years, but, they appear to work well together. I would assume that Rivera’s apparent imput and probable input from Gene Michael went a long way in making the decision.

  2. Pat M. January 15th, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    TGhis whole Cashman / Soriano signing is being way overblown……I’d bet that when Cashman made that proclamation he was already working on a very complex contact……GB, great stuff on the pay scale for the farmhands….I signed for 7500.00 and was paid 550.00 with a Diem of 5.00……..Bought myself a Cougar XR 7 convertible for less than 4 grand

  3. J. Alfred Prufrock January 15th, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    If Cashman is the resistant one to reconverting Chamberlain then the Yankees may need to find another GM.This to me is a fundamental misunderstanding on his part on what you do with a pitcher of Chamberlain’s skillset.GMs just can’t make these kinds of knee jerk decisions * mistakes with young high-end pitching.As some of us have specifically discussed (Bojo,Against All Odds,Yankfem,myself), the trickle-down effect of this decision is something we keep on paying for.I guess if the bigger bosses are having their way, we may see Joba back in there every five days.If not, & it’s because of Cashman’s intractable stance,then the GM has officially become a problem.

  4. GreenBeret7 January 15th, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    Just a guess, but, if the Yankees bring in another bullpenner, the Yankees will have a new starter, whether it’s Chamberlain or whoever he was traded for.

  5. ac1 January 15th, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    Cashman is the GM…. HOWEVER, he should not be making the decisions on who plays where. His job is to give Girardi 25 men to play, and Girardi’s job to decide how. I feel like if Girardi wants to try Joba again as a starter in Spring Training, they should.

  6. YankeesNmore January 15th, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    I love all the “Cashman has the full backing of the Steinbrenners” nonsense.

    If he really had the FULL backing of the Steinbrenners, Soriano wouldn’t be here.

    Mark this down: This is the beginning of the end for Cashman with the Yankees. The day after he resigns (or is fired), every writer covering this team will look back to the Soriano deal as the first sign.

    But you heard it (or read it) here first.

  7. ac1 January 15th, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    If Cashman does ever leave, which i don’t think is necessary, I hope they try to get Friedman from Tampa. I would love to see what he can do with money.

  8. yankeefeminista January 15th, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    Although watching Friedman maneuver without money is much more fascinating. ;)

  9. GreenBeret7 January 15th, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    Pat M. January 15th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
    TGhis whole Cashman / Soriano signing is being way overblown……I’d bet that when Cashman made that proclamation he was already working on a very complex contact……GB, great stuff on the pay scale for the farmhands….I signed for 7500.00 and was paid 550.00 with a Diem of 5.00……..Bought myself a Cougar XR 7 convertible for less than 4 grand

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    Pat, $4000 wouldn’t even get you close to a Stevie Nicks cougar now. After ny first tour in Vietnan, I bought a new ’68 Mustage Fastback through the PX and had it delivered to Ft Lewis, Washington. It was waiting for me when I got off of the plane. A civilian walks up and says, “Would you like to see your new car?” It tagged, titled and insured and I drove it back to Michigan. Metalic Gold, tan leather interior and a 390 c.u. 4bbl. As it so happens, my route took me through the Bonneville Salt Flats. Something told me to gun it.

  10. J. Alfred Prufrock January 15th, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    If Joba gets retooled or tuned up by Rothschild in order to make him more palatable on the trade market,& they send him out there every fifth day and he exceeds expectations and reinvigorates his trade value, why trade him at all?

    It’s like that HGTV show when the stagers come in to get the place sold and do such a good job,the owners say ‘hey,l think I’ll take down the for sale sign – the place looks brand new.’

  11. Patrick January 15th, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    With Joba’s youth and his potential it’s crazy to not at least give him a shot at winning a starting job this spring.

    Or trade him. I’d be happy with either, as much as it saddens me to say

  12. J. Alfred Prufrock January 15th, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    ac1 January 15th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
    If Cashman does ever leave, which i don’t think is necessary, I hope they try to get Friedman from Tampa. I would love to see what he can do with money.

    ///
    The way the Joba thing goes down will be my swing factor re Cashman.Unless, of course,there’s some deep, dark secret everyone’s sitting on, but I really,really doubt that.

  13. tyanksfan36 January 15th, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    Didn’t G. Steinbrenner himself go over everyones head to get the free agent he wanted? Seems the apple doesn’t fall too far from the tree. Apparently the Brother Steinbrenner were getting restless this offseason too.

  14. ac1 January 15th, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    i don’t see the harm in letting him come to ST prepared to start like last year, and then if they choose after, put him back in the pen. what reason would there be not to?

  15. Pat M. January 15th, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    GB…..My Cougar was Butterscotch with white leather & a white top…..It came with a 390 as well…..I also think that Cashman was already talking with Boras when he came out with him wanting to keep the draft pick……As far I see it, it was a lopsided trade of sorts for the club….

  16. blake January 15th, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    GB,

    My guess is that your guess is correct.

  17. J. Alfred Prufrock January 15th, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    Patrick January 15th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
    With Joba’s youth and his potential it’s crazy to not at least give him a shot at winning a starting job this spring.

    Or trade him. I’d be happy with either, as much as it saddens me to say
    /////

    Depends on what they could get for him.My problem with the trade idea is if is value is so low,that means getting something significant would require other pieces, which invariably means more pitching exiting the system.If you don’t get show stopping pitching coming back, well, then, you’ve gone ahead and thrown away another good young arm or two or three.

  18. jacksquat January 15th, 2011 at 9:58 pm

    I agree with Jerkface that they shouldn’t have both Nunez and Pena on the roster, and I prefer Nunez as well. The only way I could see Pena over Nunez is if they want Nunez to play full time (in the minors) to possibly become the succesor to Jeter, and/or increase/maintain his trade value.

  19. GreenBeret7 January 15th, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    Pat, I loved those Cougars and Mustangs. Only things close were the GTOs, Chevelle 396SS and Olds 442s. The ‘Vettes were in another world.

  20. J. Alfred Prufrock January 15th, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    yankeefeminista January 15th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
    Although watching Friedman maneuver without money is much more fascinating.

    ////
    I’ll be interested to see what kind of bat they add.they sure have the pitching, don’t they.

  21. ac1 January 15th, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    i dont see nunez being around long enough to take over for jeter, so let him come up now. Reyes is a free agent next year too, but i dont see jeter moving from SS.

  22. J. Alfred Prufrock January 15th, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    Nunez is a much better hitter,but shaky at 3B.

  23. GreenBeret7 January 15th, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    blake January 15th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
    GB,

    My guess is that your guess is correct.

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    I’n curious as to whether they are talking to Rauch or other teams about Chamberlain. I’m satisfied with him getting a crack at the rotation. Other than Nova, the others aren’t quite ready just yet.

  24. GreenBeret7 January 15th, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock January 15th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
    Nunez is a much better hitter,but shaky at 3B.

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    Pena isn’t exactly dazzling at third base,

  25. Rich in NJ January 15th, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    It’s a big issue, and it’s kind of nauseating.

  26. ac1 January 15th, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    Maybe Hank and Hal want to see Joba start.

    The interesting thing is that it started to sound like Hal Stainbrenner was trying to cut the payroll, but then overruled Cash on a 35M (max), contract for Soriano.

  27. GreenBeret7 January 15th, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    Not sure that HS was trying to cut payroll. It’s more that there weren’t that many targets that filled Yankee needs. That’s the difference between him and his father. He didn’t go after a big name if it didn’t fill a need.

  28. J. Alfred Prufrock January 15th, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    GreenBeret7 January 15th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
    J. Alfred Prufrock January 15th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
    Nunez is a much better hitter,but shaky at 3B.

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    Pena isn’t exactly dazzling at third base,

    ////

    he’s more reliable than Nunez over there. EN is fine at SS & 2B,but he’s tough on the corner.

  29. J. Alfred Prufrock January 15th, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    ac1 January 15th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
    Maybe Hank and Hal want to see Joba start.

    The interesting thing is that it started to sound like Hal Stainbrenner was trying to cut the payroll, but then overruled Cash on a 35M (max), contract for Soriano.

    ////

    It would be a little odd if no one in that place wanted to see it.I mean to have zero curiosity on whether he could resurrect what he was doing in 2008 would be just strange.

  30. blake January 15th, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    GB,

    Yea, I’d be interested to see if they are as well. As you say, if they did add another reliever then that would indicate that they are planning to do something with Joba one would think.

  31. GreenBeret7 January 15th, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    TY, here’s a pretty decent minor league site for you.

    http://www.minorleagueball.com/posts/archive

    Do you look at MiLB.com site?

  32. blake January 15th, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    I think Nunez was just inexperienced at 3rd. He really hasn’t played there a whole lot I don’t believe. With some work he could be most likely….he’s a better hitter than Pena with more room to improve. Only reason not to have Nunez on the club in favor of Pena is if you just want him playing every day….

  33. GreenBeret7 January 15th, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    Blake, unless I missed it, there has been almost no talk about Rauch, which is really surprising. Just some minor things, but, nothing big. He’s really the only reliever that would interest me.

  34. BoJo January 15th, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    They already added another reliever…their names are Prior, Sisco, and Vizcaíno…and Aceves in the wings…one of them will allow Joba to move to rotation…add Nova name here if Pettitte returns.

    Regarding Nunez versus Pena–you already saw this competition last year in Pena versus Russo. If Nunez has enough glove, he will win backup SS spot, and second spot will go to best of Pena, Russo, or Laird. My bet would be on Pena.

  35. GreenBeret7 January 15th, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    Nunez really only needs to be decent…not GG. With him, though, it’s always been footwork. Not his arm or glove.

  36. LGY January 15th, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    The interesting thing is that it started to sound like Hal Stainbrenner was trying to cut the payroll, but then overruled Cash on a 35M (max), contract for Soriano.

    *******

    If he was trying to cut payroll then why did he ok a 160 million dollar offer to Lee?

  37. BoJo January 15th, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    But mark my words on this, the better glove will win the spot, as defense in INF utility is a higher priority to Girardi and Cashman than a better bat. Ask Russo.

  38. GreenBeret7 January 15th, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    Green Bay looks like Sherman burning Atlanta. Leaving nothing standing.

  39. blake January 15th, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    I’d rather have Nunez and laird. Nunez and pena is redundant.

  40. BoJo January 15th, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    GreenBeret7 January 15th, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    Nunez really only needs to be decent…not GG. With him, though, it’s always been footwork. Not his arm or glove.
    ++++++++++++
    Russo only needed to be decent too…but apparently decent means pretty darn good in Girardi’s mind.

  41. BoJo January 15th, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    I predict the best glove will be first UTIL INF…with the 2nd spot going to better of Nunez or Russo…Laird needs more seasoning in AAA

  42. West Coast Yankee Fan January 15th, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    Good to see some “straight shooting” about Joba in the Post article linked to above. Some of the highlights:

    “……it is clear the Yankees have lost confidence in the 25-year-old former phenom”.

    “The Yankees did not believe he could handle being Rivera’s primary setup man — a role he failed in last year…”

    “There is also no talk of moving him back to the starting rotation, where he failed in 2008 and 2009′.

    The Yankees have to gauge Chamberlain’s trade value. In 2007 and 2008 he was viewed as a future superstar, but his ERA has been over 4.00 in each of the past two seasons, and he has struggled in a variety of roles.

    “He’s definitely got value,” an NL talent evaluator said yesterday. “The problem is in the past two years his stuff has gone backwards.”

  43. GreenBeret7 January 15th, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    Russo wasn’t good at third base.

  44. BoJo January 15th, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    GreenBeret7 January 15th, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    Russo wasn’t good at third base.
    ++++++++++++
    I believe Joe likes Pena as his 1st glove off the bench for any INF position.

  45. tyanksfan36 January 15th, 2011 at 10:39 pm

    GB

    That’s a cool site, ill have to check it out more later. I preo-ordered the 2011 Baseball America Prospect American handbook from amazon it was 21 compared to 32 on the BA website. It doesn’t come out til feb 15 though so ill have to wait a while for it. I figure I can get some good info on other prospects playing in the florida state league as well as the Yankees top 30. I might buy the 2011 baseball Prospectus book as well but it doesn’t come out until the end of Feb as well.

  46. tyanksfan36 January 15th, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    GB7

    One prospect in the FSL I didn’t get to see last season was Tony Sanchez with the Bradenton Marauders. Hope he starts some here, I know he is a top prospect and they tend to move fast. He played like 40 games for bradenton so not sure if he will be back or in AA.

  47. GreenBeret7 January 15th, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    tyanksfan36 January 15th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
    GB

    That’s a cool site, ill have to check it out more later. I preo-ordered the 2011 Baseball America Prospect American handbook from amazon it was 21 compared to 32 on the BA website. It doesn’t come out til feb 15 though so ill have to wait a while for it. I figure I can get some good info on other prospects playing in the florida state league as well as the Yankees top 30. I might buy the 2011 baseball Prospectus book as well but it doesn’t come out until the end of Feb as well.

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    TY, they are nice guides to have so you can get an idea of who’s who? Now you can bounce what you think and see against the book. There’s a project for you. Pick a player or 3 and track them against what you see and the book, and report it on here. Lucky you…you live right there. I’m jealous. Not a bad deal to save $11.

  48. BoJo January 15th, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    News item from earlier today:

    Jets practice delayed 2 hrs this PM after a player found a white substance on the ground.Players were evacuated. Police,FBI & Homeland Sec.called.Fed Invest. determine white subst. unfamiliar to Jets players,was in fact the goal line. Practice resumed as experts determined that even if there were any danger,Jets were unlikely to encounter the substance again.

  49. GreenBeret7 January 15th, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    tyanksfan36 January 15th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
    GB7

    One prospect in the FSL I didn’t get to see last season was Tony Sanchez with the Bradenton Marauders. Hope he starts some here, I know he is a top prospect and they tend to move fast. He played like 40 games for bradenton so not sure if he will be back or in AA.

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    Yeah…Sanchez is SJ44′s nephew. He may start there, but, guessing he goes to AA.

  50. tyanksfan36 January 15th, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    GB

    Did not know that was SJ44′s nephew, good to know. Well the TY don’t play Bradenton until may but I can always go to Dunedin and Clearwater. I thought it was a good deal too and I have amazom prime so I get free shipping.
    I’m sure it will be a good resource, I think back to when I was at the college next to steinbrenner field from 2006 to 2008 and how I never went to a TY game. I sure missed out.

  51. GreenBeret7 January 15th, 2011 at 11:14 pm

    TY, now you can make up for the lost games and come on here and gloat or educate us on who to look out for. There are a lot of us that enjoy the talk of the kids…good and bad. some on here get a little nasty about it. Ignore them. I try to update the charleston kids from the games and the Scranton games that are shown on the internet (about 80-90 games). You can also post them on Youtube and link them here. that way we can easily view them more than once.

  52. Betsy January 15th, 2011 at 11:15 pm

    Pukers, yuck……..hopefully the Bears will win tomorrow and we’ll see a classic NFC Championship game.

  53. Betsy January 15th, 2011 at 11:19 pm

    Cash will definitely have to address this, although who’s going to believe him if he says all is well? He has to say he wasn’t overruled and obviously he can’t express his annoyance (and I’m sure he’s annoyed). I think this is a real problem………..Hal and Hank (Hank being back and involved is a huge problem as well) are the owners and yes, of course they have the final say, but to overrule the GM on such a big move is something that is bound to be discomfitting to fans as it brings back bad memories of George and the Tampa faction.

  54. tyanksfan36 January 15th, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    GB

    Well when the season starts ill probably post to my blog, that way it won’t get lost in the NYY banter. I have my youtube and flickr linked to my blog page so it will all be easy access right there. April and the beginning of may I won’t make any promises to have anything up there consistently because ill still have classes and unfortunately my case studies and portfolios will have to be priority #1 but then I’m free to attend baseball games until they end without interruptions.

  55. Against All Odds January 15th, 2011 at 11:28 pm

    “There is also no talk of moving him back to the starting rotation, where he failed in 2008 and 2009?

    He failed in 2008 as a starter?????? SMH see with Chamberlain opinions become fact.

  56. GreenBeret7 January 15th, 2011 at 11:28 pm

    TY, either way you want to do it. Make sure you let people know and check with Chad to see what requirements there are to him linking it on the right side of this page with other yankee blogs and sites.

  57. GreenBeret7 January 15th, 2011 at 11:33 pm

    just because there’s no talk of it to the media, doesn’t mean that there is no talk. The fact that the same one that thinks that Jon Heyman is God’s gift to sports journalism is the same one that thinks the Post has all of the answers. It’s a rag…and borderline yellow journalism.

  58. tyanksfan36 January 15th, 2011 at 11:35 pm

    GB

    Ill eventually talk with Chad about seeing if I can get a link on the sidebar. That would be cool. I lately have only had so much to write about on there I’m going for a post a week so you’ll have to check it out every now and then. I thought my newest about the chase utley game was pretty good. I’m sure when the season starts ill have a plethora of information to put on there. I’m glad Trenton gets a lot of coverage with a lot of the Tampa guys getting promoted up there for the 2011 season. Unfortunately they don’t cover Tampa or Charleston as extensively.

  59. Pat M. January 15th, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    Betsy, maybe you’re overreacting to the Soriano acquisition regarding Cashman and The Brothers Stienbrenner

  60. BoJo January 15th, 2011 at 11:37 pm

    TY–Where is your site? I’d love to check it out.

  61. Betsy January 15th, 2011 at 11:39 pm

    Pat M, I like the acquisition

  62. GreenBeret7 January 15th, 2011 at 11:40 pm

    TY, did you submit an article to Chad to be one of the guest ghost writers that they do on here?

  63. jackamir January 15th, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    The Daily News is reporting that Soriano was disliked by the Rays management and sort of a primadonna in the bullpen. Attitude problems and a big salary is probably why Cashman was not on board. I will bet he will be a one and done. Soriano on paper looks good but there is more behind the scenes stuff that will be revealed in the future…….

  64. tyanksfan36 January 15th, 2011 at 11:44 pm

    GB

    I didn’t submit anything to Chad for the guest writing thing. I don’t think my writing is controversial enough :)

    Bojo

    I think if you click on my handle it links over to my blog. Its new so there’s not much on it but a few entries and a link to my flickr and youtube

  65. BoJo January 15th, 2011 at 11:44 pm

    The attitude issue was covered by Mo who went to Cash and said that he would make sure Soriano behaved. Mo really pushed for this guiy and wants to take him under his wing…which means even better cutter and performance against LHers.

  66. BoJo January 15th, 2011 at 11:45 pm

    Wow! Thanks! I didn’t know that click on handle feature was there at all.

  67. tyanksfan36 January 15th, 2011 at 11:47 pm

    Jackimir

    I heard the same thing. That he came in after everyone was gone and didn’t talk to anyone or help them out. I know they say Rivera doesn’t sit in the bullpen until he is needed but everyone always says how tries to help new guys out and shares advice to anyone who will listen. With all the attention he will get in NY its going to be interesting how his story plays out.

  68. tyanksfan36 January 15th, 2011 at 11:52 pm

    Bojo

    It is neat, I learned about the click on the handle thing when Doreen did the GTLU and said to click it to see the results. I would be cautious with who you click on though cause I’ve read that some of the trolls link to virus sites and you don’t want that.
    I hope you like my blog, be sure to comment a post and let me know what you think of it.

  69. GreenBeret7 January 15th, 2011 at 11:54 pm

    TY, if you need to learn to be controversial, Randy can help you. He loves that stuff. I couldn’t help you there. I’m too mild mannered, quiet and polite.

  70. tyanksfan36 January 15th, 2011 at 11:55 pm

    I heard Mo had something to do with Soriano but didn’t know what it was, that sounds awesome that he will try to take Soriano under his wing. Maybe Soriano didn’t click with anyone in the Rays bullpen. But I think the Yankees have some great guys headlined by Rivera.

  71. tyanksfan36 January 16th, 2011 at 12:00 am

    GB

    Maybe ill submit my story to Randy then he can make the necessary changes before sending it up to Chad.

  72. GreenBeret7 January 16th, 2011 at 12:00 am

    TY, looks like the start of a nice site. Good writing and well organized. Will you be changing pix that you have on the right side. All in all, some great photos. What did you think of Jose Gil and Addison Marusak?

  73. GreenBeret7 January 16th, 2011 at 12:03 am

    tyanksfan36 January 16th, 2011 at 12:00 am
    GB

    Maybe ill submit my story to Randy then he can make the necessary changes before sending it up to Chad.

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    LMAO. You’ve got guts. When Randy finishes, you won’t even know what players that you wrote about. Somewhere along the line, it will have you talking about developing the Twins pitchers.

    j/k, Randy

  74. tyanksfan36 January 16th, 2011 at 12:25 am

    GB

    Well as long as he puts in something about Joe Mauer, my favorite Twin Then Randy can write whatever he wants. The pics on the side…I think it shows like 4 at a time so as I add more the new ones show up and you have to click the link for the old ones. I’m planning on writing another post tomorrow so ill add some more pics when I do that. I had to add one of my dog at the game, he told me though next time he wouldn’t go without a yankees shirt so I’m going to have to get working on that :)
    I like both Jose Gil and Marusak. If I had to choose a catcher I preferred it would be Abeita cause he is better offensively but Gil grew on me. I went to a game where he argued with the ump and then again from the bench because he made an awful call on a play at the plate. He took a lot of flack from the opposing fans behind home plate(away game at dunedin) we still lost but he shut them up with a huge homerun to right center. After that game I liked him a whole lot more.

    Marusak is pretty good. If I recall he is a better defender than hitter. He made a classic jeter jump throw one game that elicited a large applause from the crowd. He got to play a lot more when Ibarra got hurt or whatever reason he wasn’t playing and when Joseph got promoted, before then he wasn’t an everyday player so I think this season if he plays a lot he will be more consistent hitting. He also went to USF and is from the area so that is pretty cool.

  75. GreenBeret7 January 16th, 2011 at 12:40 am

    Thanks for the closeup views on the players, TY. always thought that Gil got buried behind the others. Abeita is just a solid player and tough. Maruszak is a pretty decent player, but, jusr hasn’t stayed healthy. He can hit. not a lot of power or speed, but, he’s learning other positions. What I’ve seen of him, I like. Nothing great, but, he hustles.

  76. tyanksfan36 January 16th, 2011 at 12:49 am

    GB

    I like that Gil has played for basically every level of the system, he got re-signed by NY as a minor league free agent even though he has never been prospect status. It shows they like him and he obviously likes what he does regardless of where he is playing. Maruszak was on the DL for a long time but he was good when he came back, I hope he comes back to Tampa next season. He is versatile but it seems they have a lot up in Trenton in the infield so he would probably be better here.

  77. Rich in NJ January 16th, 2011 at 1:21 am

    Pat M.
    Betsy, maybe you’re overreacting to the Soriano acquisition regarding Cashman and The Brothers Stienbrenner
    __

    I don’t think she is. Maybe they were behind the idiotic trade of Montero for three months of Lee. Maybe they will order Cashman to trade Montero or some other top prospects in another stupid deal if the team is struggling.

    It’s bad enough that they overruled their GM for a marginal upgrade in Soriano, it’s that they couldn’t even decide to do it before their GM made a public statement to the contrary only a week or so before.

  78. Pat M. January 16th, 2011 at 1:34 am

    Rich in NJ……You’re telling me that you rather take the draft pick then signing Soriano whose addition just about locks them into an October run for the World Series ???? Talk about a organization that is in trouble, there’s a few pieces in today’s LA Times that paint a very dim picture on The LA Dodgers and the idiot who owns them in name only, Frank McCourt…..This guy should never been allowed to buy the team but Bud Selig owed him one for by passing him when the BoSox were up for sale…….MLB is going to bail out The Dodgers, it’s a mess in Chavez Ravine…..He banked on getting the city to allow him to build multimillion dollar homes in the Dodger Staduim grounds…..City said no dice…..

  79. Crawdaddy January 16th, 2011 at 2:11 am

    I’m not so sure the Soriano signing locks them into an October run for the WS. Whether we like it or not, it’s going to come down to the starting pitching despite who you have in the bullpen. Those first 5-6 innings every game will be the determining factor over the last 3 innings.

  80. Pat M. January 16th, 2011 at 2:42 am

    Craw….Your formula for success just improved

  81. Crawdaddy January 16th, 2011 at 4:15 am

    “Craw….Your formula for success just improved”

    Not as much you think it has.

  82. Doreen January 16th, 2011 at 6:48 am

    Good morning, morning people.

    GB7 & Pat M -

    Boy you guys sure wax poetic about your cars! :)

    *****
    Cashman will address the issue, but no matter what he says there will people who will not believe him.

    Frankly, I never thought the statement about not wanting to lose a draft pick was written in stone; I figured it was part of a negotiating tactic. Cashman and the Yankees have been known to change their minds on things.

    I think the more interesting piece in all of this is Joba Chamberlain.

    *****
    Back to the conversation about Nunez and Pena both being a part of the team going north – I’m not so sure. Last season only Pena was with the team to begin with. I don’t think the teams necessarily needs two UIs.

    I think the Yankees value defense, but they value two-dimensional players more. A guy who can’t field well has little chance, no matter how well he hits. A guy who can field but who’s bat is secondary has a better chance. I think a guy who is better than decent in the field and who can hit would be the ideal. Same deal with an extra OF bench player. Ideally, you want a guy who can field some as well as hit. One dimensional guys are limiting. That is why Damon was the first guy they went after last off-season and not Matsui (the Yankees just didn’t see Matsui in the field).

    But I guess we’ll find out where they stand on that and other issues fairly soon.

    I’m choosing to not get overly troubled by the “split” between Cashman and ownership on Soriano. I think it’s being overblown. Don’t forget, the Yankee Universe has been relatively peaceful for a few years now and controversy sells.

  83. BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 7:24 am

    Good morning Doreen.

    Didn’t take long for you to get into this morning. Some good reading from last night.

  84. Gary January 16th, 2011 at 7:24 am

    Morning

    Kudo’s to the ownership, Cashman screwed up the last offseason and he wasn’t about to do much this offseason either. He now seems lost in a world of draft choices, prospects, penny pinching, and being outflanked by other agents and teams.

    If this is true thanks to the owners for at least forcing the issue to try to improve our team.

  85. BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 7:24 am

    Little guys want to go out, back in a bit.

  86. Doreen January 16th, 2011 at 7:26 am

    Big Al -

    I woke up listing last year’s team coming out of Spring Training! I seriously have to stop falling asleep reading the blog. :)

  87. Gary January 16th, 2011 at 7:29 am

    • Just a few words of my own on Chamberlain: Cashman seems to believe Chamberlain can once again be a reliable and possibly dominant reliever. Cashman seems to like Chamberlain in that spot. It seems to be ownership — and the fan base — that’s not so convinced

    _________________________________________________________________________

    Correct comment Chad, seems like the fans and owners have seen Joba pitch. Maybe Brian doesn’t attend games, but there isn’t much out there to be coinvincing about.

  88. MTU January 16th, 2011 at 7:43 am

    Good Morning early birds.

  89. BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 7:46 am

    Gary -

    You just don’t know who had the owners ear, that changed getting Soriano. It appears some of the Tamps gang can still override Cashman.

    Whether this turns out to be a good deal, or not, only time will tell.

    I like the idea, but, I’m still looking for at least 1 more SP, a type 2 or 3, hopefully.

  90. MTU January 16th, 2011 at 7:49 am

    Gary-

    I am not a Cashman basher nor a huge fan but I do think that he was ready to go into the season with too much risk in the Pitching dep’t.

    And though I think the Yankees spent too much for Soriano I am glad they strengthened the pen. Especially if the rotation stays as it is.

    FWIS there was also too much angst about losing the draft pick.

    Many ways to compensate for that, and we still have #44.

  91. BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 7:49 am

    Doreen -

    I know what you mean about reading the blog before going to sleep.

    Since I usually don’t get more than 3-4 hours of sleep, I try hard not to think of the blog, it limits what little sleep I do get.

    I’d rather dream of hiking in Utah with what’s his name.

  92. MTU January 16th, 2011 at 7:50 am

    Al-

    Good morning from what’s his name.

  93. BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 7:52 am

    Good morning Mike. I was looking at your pictures last night, and was thinking how nice it would be to get out that way.

  94. MTU January 16th, 2011 at 7:55 am

    Al-

    As of yesterday the only fence we have put up is the same one that has been there for eons.

    If the Mormon Pioneers could handle it in covered wagons I’m sure you can in that supercool Motorhome you’re thinking about getting.

    :)

  95. BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 7:57 am

    MTU -

    You have a place I can park a 42′ RV?

  96. MTU January 16th, 2011 at 8:01 am

    Al-

    I’m sure we can work something out.

    ;)

  97. BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 8:02 am

    MTU -

    What’s the best time of year, weather wise, to be in Utah?

  98. Doreen January 16th, 2011 at 8:02 am

    My folks had an RV for a few years and saw the country that way. God Bless my stepdad driving that thing on some of those mountain roads! I could never survive it. Frankly, I don’t know how my mom survived it – she’s one of those who presses the imaginary brake on the passenger side. ;)

    Some of those vehicles are really cool though. Lots of space, really pretty.

    Anyway they enjoyed theirs and got a lot of use out of it.

    Now they are permanently ensconced in a traditional home in Florida. :)

  99. MTU January 16th, 2011 at 8:04 am

    Al-

    IMO the Fall. October or Early Nov.

  100. BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 8:06 am

    MTU -

    The fall, just in time to see the rocks change color, lol.

    Doreen -

    We’re giving it a great deal of thought, but, we’re not quite ready yet to do the deal.

  101. Doreen January 16th, 2011 at 8:08 am

    Big Al -

    It’s not a small decision. You must like to drive?

  102. MTU January 16th, 2011 at 8:08 am

    Al-

    You’ve been spending too much time talking to Maine Yankee.

    :)

  103. BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 8:11 am

    Doreen -

    One of the things I’m insisting on, is my wife has to take the driving lessons offered by the dealership, so she can drive as well. I can’t see having the RV, and her not feeling comfotable handling it. If I got ill, or was unable to drive, she would have to be able to do it. She’s always enjoyed driving large P/U trucks, but, this is a whole different story.

  104. BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 8:13 am

    MTU -

    I believe evrything Maine tells me, like the cows change their spots in the fall, it don’t snow in his area, and life on the farm is just a cake walk. Am I wrong to listen to him?

  105. MTU January 16th, 2011 at 8:14 am

    Al-

    My friend’s wife drives his 34′ rig but he usually handles the tough stuff.

    He has a similar philosophy.

    Mostly she just spells him.

  106. MTU January 16th, 2011 at 8:16 am

    Al-

    And. That old cars are really just lawn ornaments.

    I wouldn’t trust him.

    ;)

  107. BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 8:16 am

    MTU -

    I think she would be fine doing the highway driving, but, when it came time to get in and out of tight spots, she’d most likely want me behind the wheel.

  108. MTU January 16th, 2011 at 8:18 am

    Al-

    I think you have a plan.

  109. BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 8:19 am

    MTU -

    I’ve done a lot of driving all through NY State, and believe me, junk cars are considered lawn ornaments in many areas upstate.

    Sorry about that Kate.

  110. BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 8:20 am

    Mike -

    You know what they say about plans, we’ll see. What will be, will be.

  111. MTU January 16th, 2011 at 8:20 am

    Al-

    But GTO’s, 442′s, and the like ?

    :)

  112. BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 8:21 am

    MTU -

    Those are old pony cars for sale, that haven’t been bought yet.

  113. MTU January 16th, 2011 at 8:21 am

    Al-

    Now you sound like a sound I’ve heard.

    Guess the future’s not ours to see.

    :)

  114. MTU January 16th, 2011 at 8:22 am

    edit:

    Song not sound. Duh.

  115. BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 8:24 am

    MTU -

    It’s scary, but, I knew what you meany.

  116. MTU January 16th, 2011 at 8:24 am

    Al-

    I’ve been assigned a task and I intend to complete it.

    :)

  117. BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 8:28 am

    MTU -

    When I was still living in NE PA, a farmer had an old ’62 Chevy Impala SS 429/425 hp on the side of his barn. I had one just like it, and thought I could buy it cheap, and do a complete restoration, but, it was so rusted, any place you touched, the metal would flake off. Then the fun part, he was asking $3,000 for this junker. The wife was happy he wanted too much, there was no way she wanted me starting that 4-5 year project.

  118. BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 8:29 am

    MTU -

    Good luck with that.

  119. BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 8:31 am

    Mike -

    Do you think we get another SP before ST, or at the trade deadline?

  120. BoJo January 16th, 2011 at 8:32 am

    Good morning folks

    TY–Love your blog. Your writing style is great, and I love th eway you have the photos and videos incorporated.

    Doreen–While the Yankees did not leave 2010 ST with 2 util INFers, I believe they found they liked that mix as the season went on–so I expect them to start with it this year.

    As far as a decent glove getting the nod, I refer once again to Russo who is a much better bat and a decent glove…Pena had the much better glove and won the job. I expect him to be on the team, unless Nunez really impresses with his glove.

    The 2nd INFer spot will be a fight with Russo and Laird joing the fray with the loser of the Pena/Nunez battle…and IF Nunez has a really good glove, Russo could beat Pena. But I have a gut felling Pena will be there.

    In OF, I suspect Jones will get ST invite and could beat Golson out…

    I guess we don’t have too much more to wait to find out…Time flies as we approach Pitchers and Catchers (I hope so anyway!).

  121. MTU January 16th, 2011 at 8:32 am

    Al-

    Sounds like the kind of prices Maine would charge.

    Me. I’m not greedy. I’d just rather have Jimmy Cagney’s Dusenberg.

    And if I couldn’t have that I’d settle for that full military HumVee we spoke about.

  122. BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 8:35 am

    Mike -

    Such simple wishes from such a great man.

  123. austinmac January 16th, 2011 at 8:37 am

    MTU, just don’t go knocking’ on Heaven’s door like the guy in 127 Hours.

  124. BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 8:37 am

    BoJo -

    I’d like to see Justin Christian get a good shot at the 4th OF position, I think he’d be a great fit. I like both Nunez and Pena to come north. I don’t think Laird is quite ready to make the jump.

  125. BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 8:39 am

    austinmac January 16th, 2011 at 8:37 am
    MTU, just don’t go knocking’ on Heaven’s door like the guy in 127 Hours.

    ************************************
    MTU lives in heaven, or so he says.

  126. MTU January 16th, 2011 at 8:39 am

    Al-

    I don’t know about about before ST. One would think so.

    There is a lot of risk going into the season with AJ , Nova, and pitcher X (Mitre, etc.).

    There does not seem to be a lot out there though.

    Many think Joba will get another shot.

    I guess it’s a cost/benefit sort of thing.

    If the Duke of Hurl is healthy enough I sure would like to have him.

    And I am certainly not opposed to giving Joba another opportunity.

    Especially if he is motivated and can work with the new Pitching coach.

    Who knows what will be by the time the TD rolls around.

  127. MTU January 16th, 2011 at 8:43 am

    Al/Austin-

    Thanks for the kind thoughts.

    What I meant was that I intend to keep sharing the beauty I have been privledged to see with as many as I can for as long as I can.

    Either thru photos, or live.

    I’m payin’ it forward for my blessing. It is what I meant to do.

    :)

  128. BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 8:44 am

    Mike -

    The problem with giving Joba another chance is, the FO don’t appear to believe he can do it, if he gets that chance, then you have the Joba rules all over again, basically a 150 inning pitcher, at best, and if he fails, you lose all trade value, JMO.

    For what ever reason, right or wrong, I think that ship has sailed.

  129. MTU January 16th, 2011 at 8:46 am

    Al-

    I think you may be correct.

    It’s too bad though because that ship could have been the Enterprise
    instead of the Titanic.

  130. BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 8:47 am

    MTU -

    The Duke of Hurl, if signed may be more of a long RP, or spot starter, I can’t see him as a regular SP, not with his past history. I do like what he has to offer, just not sure he’ll be able to stay healthy long enough to be a SP.

  131. BoJo January 16th, 2011 at 8:49 am

    BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 8:37 am

    BoJo -

    I’d like to see Justin Christian get a good shot at the 4th OF position, I think he’d be a great fit. I like both Nunez and Pena to come north. I don’t think Laird is quite ready to make the jump.
    ++++++++++++++++++++
    I remember Christian from a few years ago. I know he had a great winter, but guys like him are life-long minor leaguers for a reason…like Jon Weber last year. If Jones is here, he will get the nod, otherwise I would prefer to go with th eyounger Golson and let Long work with him all year.

  132. MTU January 16th, 2011 at 8:49 am

    Al-

    That is why internal options may actually be better than what remains out there right now.

    I’m still hoping for AP to come ridin’ in on his white horse to save the day.

    hey. I can dream.

  133. BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 8:51 am

    The Titanic, the ship the owner said even God could not sink, we all know how that turned out.

    What did impress me, was how Joba came back towards the end of last season, throwing at 97 mph again. If he can do that, on a consistant basis, his role as a 7th inning guy could be huge, and move to be the EIG, when Soriano is closing.

  134. MTU January 16th, 2011 at 8:51 am

    Al-

    but I fear that AP is more like Custer in that he has made his last stand, or shall I say pitch.

    :(

  135. MTU January 16th, 2011 at 8:53 am

    I’m on the Justin Chrisitan bandwagon.

  136. BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 8:53 am

    BoJo -

    I think you could be wrong in this case. Justin had some injuries that sidelined him for a while, but, now he’s healthy, and he does have the tools to be a big asset.

  137. MTU January 16th, 2011 at 8:53 am

    edit: Christian. Killer has been at it again.

  138. BoJo January 16th, 2011 at 8:54 am

    I wonder if Andy will be more interested in coming back now that Soriano is on board…I got the feeling that Lee’s signing would have brought him back, and htat if he were to come back, he wants to make sure the team has a great shot at another ring. ANyone else get that feeling too?

  139. BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 8:54 am

    Mike -

    Until AP says, I’m retired, I hold out hope.

  140. BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 8:55 am

    Mike -

    You’ve spent too much time talking with GB7, it’s starting to wear off.

  141. BoJo January 16th, 2011 at 8:55 am

    BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 8:53 am

    BoJo -

    I think you could be wrong in this case. Justin had some injuries that sidelined him for a while, but, now he’s healthy, and he does have the tools to be a big asset.
    +++++++++++++
    Well then, let’s hope he resigns and see what he has in ST. But if he had such a great winter, I would expect him to seek out opportunities with other clubs who can give him a better shot at actual playing time.

  142. MTU January 16th, 2011 at 8:56 am

    Al-

    You’re scaring me.

  143. BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 8:57 am

    BoJo -

    That’s how I was thinking as well. Perhaps he’ll get in shape, and give us a strong SP for the streatch run, after the trial ends. That trial may be a big factor in his decision.

  144. MTU January 16th, 2011 at 8:58 am

    Al-

    And besides we all know GB is “unique”.

    :)

  145. BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 8:59 am

    *** Stretch *** not streatch

    See Mike, now you’re doing it to me, GB7, it’s all your fault!

  146. BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 9:00 am

    Unique, is that what they call it these days, lol.

  147. BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 9:01 am

    I’m going to back out for a bit, catch you later.

  148. BoJo January 16th, 2011 at 9:02 am

    Big Al–

    I really don’t understand why the trial is such a big concern of his, unless he was lying in his statements (which I doubt).

    It will take about a week or less to give his testimony, and be drilled by the other side….and what’s more, the trial could be delayed a few times…

  149. MTU January 16th, 2011 at 9:02 am

    Al-

    Yes. In the age of PC that’s what it’s called.

    :)

    New thread ====>

  150. Gary January 16th, 2011 at 10:13 am

    I believe the Soriano deal may well have saved Cashman from a real train wreck. I agree with Big Al we still have some additional holes to plug, but at least this is something in the right direction. The Yankee strength has always been being abvle to control the endgame, Jeff Nelson, Mendosa (for a while), Hughes, Mike Stanton, Woods, Mo in his first year to name a few. It’s a strategy that has worked in the past and this gives us the best chance to continue that tradition. Regarding the money it’s not an issue, there has never been a money issue in Yankeeland.

    If you want to see Money going out the door wait until next year.

  151. Gary January 16th, 2011 at 10:14 am

    BoJo January 16th, 2011 at 9:02 am
    Big Al–

    I really don’t understand why the trial is such a big concern of his

    _________________________________________________________________________

    Because it isn’t, many here have just concluded that it is.

  152. Gary January 16th, 2011 at 10:16 am

    BIG AL January 16th, 2011 at 8:44 am
    Mike -

    The problem with giving Joba another chance is, the FO don’t appear to believe he can do it, if he gets that chance, then you have the Joba rules all over again, basically a 150 inning pitcher, at best, and if he fails, you lose all trade value, JMO.

    For what ever reason, right or wrong, I think that ship has sailed

    _________________________________________________________________________

    Amen, I’ll just add a guy with control issues that also can’t keep the ball in the park.

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