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One more reminder about an unforgettable night

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 17, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

I know, I know. I’m not supposed to be here today. But, it occurs to me that a lot of information is missed on the weekend, and I wanted to add one more post about the 88th annual awards dinner hosted by the New York Chapter of the Baseball Writers Association of America.

The dinner will be held on Saturday, January 22, at the Hilton New York, located at 1335 Avenue of the Americas between West 53rd and 54th Streets. Cocktails start at 6 p.m., dinner starts at 7, and nearly all of our chapter award and national award winners are expected to be there (plus some really amazing guests).

Tickets are $225 each and can be purchased through Phil Pepe (philpepman@cs.com or 201-871-5924).

It really is a great night. Come on out if you can make it. Here is the complete list of the awards that will be presented at the dinner:

Willie, Mickey and the Duke Award: Joe Torre, Lou Piniella, Bobby Cox
Joan Payson Award for community service: George Steinbrenner
William J. Slocum-Jack Lang Award for Long and Meritorious Service: Bill Shannon
Joe DiMaggio Toast of the Town Award: Robinson Cano
Ben Epstein-Dan Castellano Good Guy Award: Phil Hughes
Sid Mercer-Dick Young Player of the Year Award: Josh Hamilton
Babe Ruth Award (Postseason MVP): Tim Lincecum
Casey Stengel You Could Look It Up Award: Harmon Killebrew
Arthur and Milton Richman You Gotta Have Heart Award: R.A. Dickey

American League MVP: Josh Hamilton
National League MVP: Joey Votto
American League Cy Young: Felix Hernandez
National League Cy Young: Roy Halladay
American League Rookie of the Year: Neftali Feliz
National League Rookie of the Year: Buster Posey
American League Manager of the Year: Ron Gardenhire
National League Manager of the Year: Bud Black

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151 Responses to “One more reminder about an unforgettable night”

  1. rodg12 January 17th, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    Will Hamilton be able to attend after his recent bout with pneumonia?

  2. BoJo January 17th, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    I saw a link on Daily News Blogging the Bombers this weekend showing Harmon Killebrew in a home run derby contest with Mickey Mantle and rocky Colavito…Brought back some great memories of the Killer…

    Here is one of the links…

    http://www.hulu.com/watch/1669.....key-mantle

  3. Chip January 17th, 2011 at 3:22 pm

    GreenBeret7 January 17th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
    How is a 31 year old Keppinger going to replace Jeter at shortstop in two or 3 years with now real replacements ready? no thanks…not for Nunez.

    —————————–

    You’re not trading Nunez for Keppinger with the idea of Keppinger being a long term replacement for Jeter.

    Nunez (and Romine) are the price you pay to get a solid mid rotation pitcher in Brett Myers. Jeff Keppinger is just filler to give you a utility guy on the bench for the remainder of the season once Nunez is traded so that you don’t have to turn to Ramiro Pena.

  4. BoJo January 17th, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    And here was Harmon vs Rocky…

    http://www.hulu.com/watch/1669.....,vclip,2,0

    Great stuff!

  5. BoJo January 17th, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    Killebrew won’t be there either…battling cancer

  6. BoJo January 17th, 2011 at 3:26 pm

    Man–would Rocky Colavito be an idol today or what?

  7. austinmac January 17th, 2011 at 3:26 pm

    GB,

    My goodness, I loved the old Home Run Derby. As I recall Mickey won a few times and then lost to Killebrew.

    Wasn’t it filmed in the former AAA park In LA?

  8. Chip January 17th, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    GB -

    As for who would replace Jeter if a Jeter replacement is needed – you burn that bridge when you come to it.

    Starting pitcher trumps possible future SS.

  9. Erica in NY January 17th, 2011 at 3:31 pm

    Pat M-

    If you are out there….

    Guess who got tickets today to see Stevie Nicks & Rod Stewart at the Garden on 3/26…. :grin:

  10. Chip January 17th, 2011 at 3:35 pm

    Moves that will look bad by Labor Day:

    Jayson Werth Contract – Werth’s a good player but he’s not a franchise cornerstone and that’s what he’s being paid to be.

    Adrian Beltre Contract – Sure he’s an upgrade over Young at 3b but I think his performance is going to drop from where it was last year and by the end of the year we’ll be calling this what it was – a panic move from a team that wanted to spend some money.

    Adam Dunn deal – Not because Dunn won’t hit – but because the White Sox (much like the Tigers) spent big money on a DH when they already have too many guys who can’t field. The Dunn deal coupled with the Konerko deal and the presence of Carlos Quentin may force the White Sox into being the worst defensive team in baseball.

    Deals that will look great:

    Vin Mazzaro trade – The Royals got him for DeJesus and could probably get something very nice for him at the deadline. They’ll also probably move the Melk Man and Frenchy for prospects by August too.

    Russ Martin deal – a 27 year old All Star for $4 million – a lot of Cashman haters are going to eat crow.

    Carlos Pena signing – 1 year commitment and he’s going to give them solid glove work, power that they’ve desperately needed from the left side. And they’ll still be freed up after this season to go after Pujols. The addition of the two Tampa players (Garza being the other) will propel them into the playoffs this year.

  11. Doreen January 17th, 2011 at 3:35 pm

    Erica -

    You found someone to go with?

  12. Chip January 17th, 2011 at 3:35 pm

    jcrasnick Jerry Crasnick
    #BlueJays sign reliever Jon Rauch to $3.5M deal with club option of $3.75M for 2012,

  13. Chip January 17th, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    So, 8.5 mil combined for Fuentes and Rauch vs. $11 mil for Soriano – I’ll take the deal we got for Soriano.

  14. austinmac January 17th, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    BoJO,

    Did you notice the batting gloves? They look like work gloves.

    Thanks for posting the video.

  15. GreenBeret7 January 17th, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    Chip January 17th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
    GreenBeret7 January 17th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
    How is a 31 year old Keppinger going to replace Jeter at shortstop in two or 3 years with now real replacements ready? no thanks…not for Nunez.

    —————————–

    You’re not trading Nunez for Keppinger with the idea of Keppinger being a long term replacement for Jeter.

    Nunez (and Romine) are the price you pay to get a solid mid rotation pitcher in Brett Myers. Jeff Keppinger is just filler to give you a utility guy on the bench for the remainder of the season once Nunez is traded so that you don’t have to turn to Ramiro Pena.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    There is no indication that Houston is willing to trade Myers and the injuries to Keppinger eliminates him from any discussion. He won’t be ready to play in at least 4 months.

    The trouble with depending on burning bridges is that once you get across, you have to look for another and new, emergency bridges cost more.

  16. BoJo January 17th, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    Chip–

    I’m surprised the Rays got shut out of reliever market..I guess they are going to trust the kids they got from SD.

  17. Yankee Trader January 17th, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    Bojo-

    Watching Mantle vs. Killebrew now. Thanks-a real treat. BTW Mick is batting righty against a right-handed pitcher.

  18. BoJo January 17th, 2011 at 3:44 pm

    Glad you all enjoyed this…I saw it posted last weekend and just remembered it because Killebrew is sick.

  19. Erica in NY January 17th, 2011 at 3:44 pm

    Doreen January 17th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
    Erica -

    You found someone to go with?

    **********

    Yup! I knew I would
    (I’ll message you if I ever go home tonight)

  20. YsGuy January 17th, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    wrigley field in l.a. was home to the los angeles angels thier first year in the american league as well as a pcl team of the same name for 30 years.

    http://www.sportshollywood.com.....ycolor.jpg

  21. BoJo January 17th, 2011 at 3:48 pm

    Wow..watching Mickey Mantle vs Jackie Jensen is great…Tape measure job by Mantle in 2nd…what a treat!

  22. blake January 17th, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    Chip,

    Hope you and Pat M are right about Martin. I have a good feeling about him as well….could be a classic change of scenery rebound situation. It would be awesome if so because he could give them either yet another long term option behind the plate or a very valuable trade chip.

    Also, come on now. The Cubs? I predict a 3rd or 4th place finish in that division….and not just because they are the Cubs. I just don’t think they’re very good even with Garza and Pena.

  23. BoJo January 17th, 2011 at 3:50 pm

    Man! Mantle is hitting some tape measures!!

  24. LGY January 17th, 2011 at 3:51 pm

    I think Krazy Kyle will turn out to be a good pickup by the Rays.

    He started using a cutter last year that really helped him out especially since his fastball is so straight.

  25. Chip January 17th, 2011 at 3:51 pm

    BoJo January 17th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
    Chip–

    I’m surprised the Rays got shut out of reliever market..I guess they are going to trust the kids they got from SD.

    —————-

    I can’t say I’m shocked – Tampa’s been cheap for years.

    The only reason they were good was because after being so cheap (and bad) for so long all the inexpensive talent they accumulated through high draft picks hit the bigs at once. Once that talent started to get expensive we knew that this was going to happen.

    My guess is that they’ll transition some of their young minor league starters into major league relievers and hope to get lucky like they did with Beniot last year.

    But this is why I wasn’t worried about the Red Sox getting better. Tampa has taken a major hit:

    Gone:
    1b – Carlos Pena
    SS – Jason Bartlett
    LF – Carl Crawford
    Closer – Raf Soriano
    Primary setup man – Joaquin Benoit
    Secondary setup man – Grant Balfour
    Situational LHP – Randy Choate
    and another key reliever in Dan Wheeler

  26. Chip January 17th, 2011 at 3:52 pm

    LGY January 17th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
    I think Krazy Kyle will turn out to be a good pickup by the Rays.

    He started using a cutter last year that really helped him out especially since his fastball is so straight.

    —————–

    Farnsworth is fine as a 7th or 8th inning guy – but with all their losses he’s going to have to close most likely. And he’s going to have to do it against big time teams like the Yankees and Red Sox.

    He’ll implode.

  27. Jerkface January 17th, 2011 at 3:53 pm

    The problem with the fuentes signing is that it was for less than the Feliciano deal. Which kind of sucks. Yankees overpayed for 2 bullpen spots and one of them isn’t guaranteed better performance (fuentes vs feliciano)

  28. BoJo January 17th, 2011 at 3:53 pm

    Mantle is hitting some over the light tower…about 450 to 500 ft!

  29. Jerkface January 17th, 2011 at 3:55 pm

    I’d rather have Rauch and Fuentes combined than Soriano. Especially because its not 8.5 mil vs 11, its 8.5 mil vs 11 mil + 25 mil of risk.

  30. Pat M. January 17th, 2011 at 3:56 pm

    Erica…..I’m hoping to catch them at The Hollywood Bowl in April ( 16th )…….Prices are insane ….

  31. Chip January 17th, 2011 at 3:56 pm

    Blake:

    The Cubs have potentially the best 1-2 punch of any rotation in that division; easily a deeper lineup and a better pen.

  32. Chip January 17th, 2011 at 3:58 pm

    Jerkface January 17th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
    The problem with the fuentes signing is that it was for less than the Feliciano deal. Which kind of sucks. Yankees overpayed for 2 bullpen spots and one of them isn’t guaranteed better performance (fuentes vs feliciano)

    ——————-

    So? Yankees aren’t up against their budget – still have plenty of room to operate and my ticket prices weren’t going to go down if they signed Fuentes and Rauch instead of Feliciano and Soriano.

  33. Chip January 17th, 2011 at 3:59 pm

    Jerkface January 17th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
    I’d rather have Rauch and Fuentes combined than Soriano. Especially because its not 8.5 mil vs 11, its 8.5 mil vs 11 mil + 25 mil of risk
    ——————

    Only potential downside to Soriano deal is if he gets hurt or stinks during the regular season. There’s risk with every deal and I have fewer concerns about Soriano stinking than I do about Fuentes or Rauch. At least I know Soriano can perform in a big spot.

  34. blake January 17th, 2011 at 3:59 pm

    Chip,

    Carpenter and Wainwright, Greinke and Gallardo?

  35. DaSaint007 January 17th, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    I still think that signing Rauch for 1 year would have been a good move. And now we see it could have been done for under $5M.

    It would have maintained the strength of the pen created additional opportunity for Joba to start. To me, this means that they have no intention of Joba starting.

  36. Chip January 17th, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    blake January 17th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
    Chip,

    Carpenter and Wainwright, Greinke and Gallardo?

    ——————-

    Carpenter has to stay healthy.

    Let’s see what Greinke does in games that matter.

  37. Jerkface January 17th, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    So? Yankees aren’t up against their budget – still have plenty of room to operate and my ticket prices weren’t going to go down if they signed Fuentes and Rauch instead of Feliciano and Soriano.

    I wasn’t arguing about your ticket prices, that doesn’t matter. What does matter is spending the money wisely and retaining assets like the draft pick. And Fuentes is better vs righties than Feliciano and has closed before. Thats extra insurance.

    And as I keep saying, until the Yankees spend above 210 mil regularly, their budget is a concern and if Soriano sucks or is injured he will just keep exercising his player option and steal 10 mil from the yankees. And like Pavano, he hangs around on the roster because he is too expensive to trade / cut and you keep trying to get something out of him.

  38. austinmac January 17th, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    Gorzellany, a starter mentioned by some, has signed with the Nats.

    Do you board members think the Yankees will sign any of the few remaining free agent starters? Is it down to Duchscherer and Garcia now?

  39. Jerkface January 17th, 2011 at 4:03 pm

    Only potential downside to Soriano deal is if he gets hurt or stinks during the regular season. There’s risk with every deal

    There is, but in cases of highly volatile positions such as reliever there is less risk assumed by the club because most contracts are for smaller amounts and with club options. Not only did the yankees pay a premium they also gave him a bunch of stupid player options. Really have to hope he excels, pitches like we all expect him to, and then opts out to save the yankees from themselves.

  40. Chip January 17th, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    DaSaint007 January 17th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
    I still think that signing Rauch for 1 year would have been a good move. And now we see it could have been done for under $5M.

    It would have maintained the strength of the pen created additional opportunity for Joba to start. To me, this means that they have no intention of Joba starting.

    —————–

    After reading some of what was being thrown around this weekend – I wonder if the Yankees have any intention of Joba being on the team at all.

    From what I gather the driving force behind the Soriano signing was that there are a lot of people in Yankeeland who have zero confidence in Joba Chamberlain.

  41. Chip January 17th, 2011 at 4:05 pm

    Jerkface January 17th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
    So? Yankees aren’t up against their budget – still have plenty of room to operate and my ticket prices weren’t going to go down if they signed Fuentes and Rauch instead of Feliciano and Soriano.

    I wasn’t arguing about your ticket prices, that doesn’t matter. What does matter is spending the money wisely and retaining assets like the draft pick. And Fuentes is better vs righties than Feliciano and has closed before. Thats extra insurance.

    And as I keep saying, until the Yankees spend above 210 mil regularly, their budget is a concern and if Soriano sucks or is injured he will just keep exercising his player option and steal 10 mil from the yankees. And like Pavano, he hangs around on the roster because he is too expensive to trade / cut and you keep trying to get something out of him.

    ———————

    I think you’re making mountains out of molehills.

    The Yankees were planning to spend something like 23 – 26 mil this year on Cliff Lee – the 11 mil they’re spending on Soriano doesn’t even come close to touching that. Tells me that the Yankees still have plenty of room to operate.

  42. Betsy January 17th, 2011 at 4:05 pm

    What’s so great about Fuentes? I recall him coming up pretty small against the Yankees a couple of years ago.

  43. Jerkface January 17th, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    If Soriano pitches for all of next year it will be the first time he has had 3 healthy seasons in a row.

  44. Chip January 17th, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    As for the draft pick – on Friday I posted a list of the last ten players picked 31st overall – most successful in the group to this point is LHRP JP Howell. I’ll take Soriano over that kind of player any day.

  45. LGY January 17th, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    Chip

    The best 1 2 punch in the Central??

    In addition to what Blake said, the Reds may have a better 1 2 than the Cubs also.

  46. Yankee Trader January 17th, 2011 at 4:08 pm

    Carpenter and Wainwright Vs Garza Zambrano/Dempster.

    St Louis had the best team ERA in their division [4th in NL] last year at 3.57 to Cubs, 4th from last at 4.18. I’ll bet on St. Louis over Cubbies.

  47. Jerkface January 17th, 2011 at 4:08 pm

    The Yankees were planning to spend something like 23 – 26 mil this year on Cliff Lee – the 11 mil they’re spending on Soriano doesn’t even come close to touching that. Tells me that the Yankees still have plenty of room to operate.

    They could have greater room to operate and get the same performance, not to mention they could have signed fuentes AND rauch for the price of 1 soriano and still signed feliciano and had 3 excellent lefties to combat the red sox.

    Betsy: .128 .222 .149 .371 This is what lefties hit off fuentes last year.
    .211 .301 .306 .607 in his career. He is very good vs lefties.

  48. BoJo January 17th, 2011 at 4:08 pm

    Chip January 17th, 2011 at 3:52 pm

    He’ll implode.
    ++++++++
    You mean he won’t win by intimidation????

  49. randy l. January 17th, 2011 at 4:08 pm

    “I saw a link on Daily News Blogging the Bombers this weekend showing Harmon Killebrew in a home run derby contest with Mickey Mantle and rocky Colavito…Brought back some great memories of the Killer…”

    bojo-
    thanks for the link.
    im going to watch it because home run derby was great tv back then.

    but i’m not going to like seeing killebrew beat him again because we had a harmon killebrew fan in our neighborhood who wouldn’t let us hear the end of it.

    i was so annoyed with him and his brother who joined his killebrew bandwagon that when the brother was drowning in the middle of the connecticut river one time we took our sweet time rescuing him. he was stuck on a rock in the middle of the river after our home made raft sank and couldn’t swim. we made him sit out there for a while.

    i think he was a red sox fan too :)

  50. BoJo January 17th, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    DaSaint007 January 17th, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    I still think that signing Rauch for 1 year would have been a good move. And now we see it could have been done for under $5M.

    It would have maintained the strength of the pen created additional opportunity for Joba to start. To me, this means that they have no intention of Joba starting.
    ++++++++++++++
    You are forgetting about Prior or Sanchez….

  51. Betsy January 17th, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    Jerkface, I’m sure Feliciano will be fine. At this point, it seems the Yankees can’t do anything right…………..

  52. GreenBeret7 January 17th, 2011 at 4:11 pm

    With the Cubs trading off one of their starters, it makes getting Zambrano less likely. Myers is not likely to be on the block, according to Houston, so, unless the Yankees are going with 2 rookie starters, Garcia is most likely the pitcher they go after, unless they can get a Kazmir type for the #4-#5 type pitcher.

  53. BoJo January 17th, 2011 at 4:11 pm

    austinmac January 17th, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    Gorzellany, a starter mentioned by some, has signed with the Nats.

    Do you board members think the Yankees will sign any of the few remaining free agent starters? Is it down to Duchscherer and Garcia now?
    +++++++++++++
    I think if either were going ot happen, it would have happened by now…

  54. blake January 17th, 2011 at 4:12 pm

    Chip,

    You think Z is a sure thing or were you going with Dempster as the 2? Either way, not the best in that division. You can make an argument its the 4th best as LGY said.

  55. Jerkface January 17th, 2011 at 4:13 pm

    Jerkface, I’m sure Feliciano will be fine. At this point, it seems the Yankees can’t do anything right…………..

    Feliciano will be good, but Fuentes just signed for less and offers more overall as a player. Feliciano is strictly a LOOGY he cannot absolutely CANNOT be left in vs righties. The yankees could have got fuentes and had a guy who could navigate through a righty to get to 2 lefties, or handle soft righties.

    Career: .226 .322 .379 .701 vs RHB
    2010: .202 .293 .403 .696

    Feliciano
    Career: .283 .376 .420 .795 vs RHB
    2010: .336 .436 .395 .831

    So we paid more for a more limited player.

  56. Chip January 17th, 2011 at 4:14 pm

    Jerkface January 17th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
    The Yankees were planning to spend something like 23 – 26 mil this year on Cliff Lee – the 11 mil they’re spending on Soriano doesn’t even come close to touching that. Tells me that the Yankees still have plenty of room to operate.

    They could have greater room to operate and get the same performance, not to mention they could have signed fuentes AND rauch for the price of 1 soriano and still signed feliciano and had 3 excellent lefties to combat the red sox.

    ———-

    I would argue you’re not getting the same performance from Jon Rauch that you’ll get from Soriano. You are getting a guy in Feliciano who you know will take the ball. Fuentes is too much a Damaso Marte for my liking.

    I’ll take the quality over the quantity.

  57. DaSaint007 January 17th, 2011 at 4:14 pm

    Chip January 17th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
    DaSaint007 January 17th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
    I still think that signing Rauch for 1 year would have been a good move. And now we see it could have been done for under $5M.

    It would have maintained the strength of the pen created additional opportunity for Joba to start. To me, this means that they have no intention of Joba starting.

    —————–

    After reading some of what was being thrown around this weekend – I wonder if the Yankees have any intention of Joba being on the team at all.

    From what I gather the driving force behind the Soriano signing was that there are a lot of people in Yankeeland who have zero confidence in Joba Chamberlain.
    —————————————

    All the more reason to have signed Rauch. If there is significant doubt about the future of Joba, and if he may be traded, then I would have shored up the pen regardless. Maybe a pickup of Duchscherer is deemed more cost effective (more cost effective than $3.5M?), or maybe it’s because he’s a swing-man why he’s still reportedly being considered.

    Point is, if Joba’s on the way out, I think they will add an arm first, unless that replacement is intended to come from the system, which is a possibility.

  58. BoJo January 17th, 2011 at 4:14 pm

    Randy–

    A Red SOx fan? I’m surprised you didn’t throw him candy Lifesavers.

  59. Chip January 17th, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    Jerkface January 17th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
    Jerkface, I’m sure Feliciano will be fine. At this point, it seems the Yankees can’t do anything right…………..

    Feliciano will be good, but Fuentes just signed for less and offers more overall as a player. Feliciano is strictly a LOOGY he cannot absolutely CANNOT be left in vs righties. The yankees could have got fuentes and had a guy who could navigate through a righty to get to 2 lefties, or handle soft righties.

    Career: .226 .322 .379 .701 vs RHB
    2010: .202 .293 .403 .696

    Feliciano
    Career: .283 .376 .420 .795 vs RHB
    2010: .336 .436 .395 .831

    So we paid more for a more limited player.

    ——————–

    But the difference is that you know Feliciano will be there to take the ball when you need him to. Fuentes you’re not so sure. Also I’m sure Feliciano’s success in NY played a big part.

    Beyond that – when the Yankees signed Feliciano Fuentes was still looking for closer jobs; not situational lefty jobs. And given what the Angels paid for Scott Downs and the Tigers paid for Benoit – it was not a bad move for the club at the time.

  60. BoJo January 17th, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    Having seen Rauch, Fuentes, and Soriano pitch, I am Sooooooo happy we got Soriano! No contest in my book…especially knowing that Mo will be taking him under his wing.

  61. Betsy January 17th, 2011 at 4:17 pm

    Jerkface, ok I see what you mean……..there had to be a reason. Maybe they really just wanted a LOOGY because they are happy with the rest of their pen.

  62. Chip January 17th, 2011 at 4:17 pm

    blake January 17th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
    Chip,

    You think Z is a sure thing or were you going with Dempster as the 2? Either way, not the best in that division. You can make an argument its the 4th best as LGY said.

    ——————–

    Blake –

    I’ll take Zambrano and Garza.

    But you make a point – with Dempster, Wells and Silva in addition to Z and Garza I would argue that the Cubs have the best rotation top to bottom in that division.

  63. Betsy January 17th, 2011 at 4:18 pm

    I think Soriano is going to be fantastic…….

  64. Jerkface January 17th, 2011 at 4:18 pm

    Fuentes you’re not so sure | . Fuentes is too much a Damaso Marte for my liking.

    What does this mean?? He pitches as much as Feliciano does every season.

  65. Yankee Trader January 17th, 2011 at 4:18 pm

    Even if Soriano has a great year, if he opts out he’ll be facing competion from Bell, Broxton, Franklin, Capps, Papelbon and possibly Lidge, Nathan, Valverdi and K-Rod for closer $$$.

    It’s easy to look back, but the two relievers who went very early, lefty Scott Downs and righty Joaquin Benoit, “might” have been a better sign than Feliciano and Soriano, in terms of money and the ability to get righties out, which Feliciano doesn’t do well.

  66. blake January 17th, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    Yea can’t see the Cubs trading Z now but if either the Cubs or Cards are out of it at the deadline they could put a pretty good pitcher on the market. (Carpenter would be great if healthy).

  67. blake January 17th, 2011 at 4:22 pm

    Chip,

    If Zambrano.is the guy from the end of 2010 maybe, but that’s anything but a given. I like the Cards, Brewers, and maybe even the Reds better right now……but we’ll see.

  68. DaSaint007 January 17th, 2011 at 4:22 pm

    Bojo, I didn’t really forget about Pior and Sanchez. Frankly, I don’t think that Sanchez will stick, though I do hope that Prior has a shot.

    At the beginning of the offseason, my desired pen was:
    Mariano, Rauch, Fuentes, Robertson, Joba, Feliciano, and Logan.

    As Soriano sat on the market, I inserted Soriano and removed Fuentes.
    We have a very strong pen, I just think that we’re still at least one arm short from addressing our pitching issues.

  69. austinmac January 17th, 2011 at 4:23 pm

    It has always seemingly been presumed the Yankees would add a veteran starter. I believe that is becoming more unlikely by the day.

    I agree the Cubs trade makes them unlikely to deal anyone, and there is no sign publicly known of any other potential deals.

    Garcia and Duchscherer remain. Garcia is not that good, and Duchscherer never is healthy.

    I am going out in the backyard and get my fastball up to 60 mph. My team needs me.

  70. Yankee Trader January 17th, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    I am going out in the backyard and get my fastball up to 60 mph.
    ———————————————-
    Work out with Phil Niekro and learn the knuckleball and you might have a shot at the bigs!!!

  71. blake January 17th, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    Sabathia, Hughes, AJ, Nova, Joba.

    Unless a super secret trade is in the works…..Start with this, adjust as needed and as pitching comes available.

  72. joeman January 17th, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    # GreenBeret7 January 17th, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    Jones will be an addition like Sierra was. He should be able to handle his share of the load.
    ————————————————————————
    when I mention bringing Jones here last year you were very much against it, what changed in a year for you to OK with it now

  73. BoJo January 17th, 2011 at 4:31 pm

    blake January 17th, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    Sabathia, Hughes, AJ, Nova, Joba.

    Unless a super secret trade is in the works…..Start with this, adjust as needed and as pitching comes available
    ++++++++++
    Totally agree.

  74. West Coast Yankee Fan January 17th, 2011 at 4:33 pm

    My big concern is AJ Burnett. If he stinks it up, I think the rotation becomes basically untenable, no matter what they do at the bottom.

    As if his mechanics and mental makeup are not problematic enough, he is 33 and has been losing velocity on his fastball since 2007, going from 95.1 mph to 93.2. His strikeouts have dropped precipitously the last there years from 231 to 195 to 145.

    I have no idea where any optimism would come from.

  75. Dionysius Thelxinoe January 17th, 2011 at 4:34 pm

    Yankee Trader January 17th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
    Even if Soriano has a great year, if he opts out he’ll be facing competion from Bell, Broxton, Franklin, Capps, Papelbon and possibly Lidge, Nathan, Valverdi and K-Rod for closer $$$

    —————————–

    To mne, it’s all about whether he has a great year, period. That’s all BORAS cares about.

  76. Yankee Trader January 17th, 2011 at 4:35 pm

    Ruben Sierra-Yankees traded Danny Tartabill to A’s for him, and then Sierra was traded after 1995 to Detroit for Cecil Fielder.

  77. Yankee Trader January 17th, 2011 at 4:37 pm

    I hope Soriano has a great year. If he opts out there will be someone else to replace him.

  78. blake January 17th, 2011 at 4:38 pm

    The optimism with AJ is that he’s never been anywhere near as bad as he was last year. A new PC can maybe reach him.and get him to actually use his CU to keep guys off his fastball. Its glass half full but I really feel he will be better this year…..I don’t know how much better but better.

  79. Jerkface January 17th, 2011 at 4:38 pm

    If Joba is going to get garbage 5th-6th inning, replace him with Sanchez/Prior/whoever looks good out of spring and put Joba in the rotation.

  80. randy l. January 17th, 2011 at 4:38 pm

    bojo-

    i knew i wasn’t going to like watching mickey hit that last ground ball for an out in home run derby. it’s amazing how you can remember something like that.

    we kind of had to rescue him because he would have died out there and we would have been in big trouble explaining that one. as it was we had, after saving ourselves when the raft sank, go back up the river a half mile and jump in to swim back by the rock to get him off. there were 5 of us and we knocked him off the rock and kept him floating until we got him to shore.

    the connecticut river there is about a third of a mile wide there and really fast and deep. then we argued all the way home whether we could get cub scout merit badges for rescuing him. the fact we weren’t supposed to be anywhere near the river kind of put a damper on that.

    here’s right where it was just above the railroad bridge:

    http://maps.google.com/maps?cl.....CBoQ8gEwAA

  81. Yankee Trader January 17th, 2011 at 4:42 pm

    The Blue Jays announced that they signed Jon Rauch to a one-year deal that pays the reliever $3.5MM in 2011 and includes a club option for $3.75MM in 2012. There’s a $250K buyout for the 2012 option, so the deal is worth a total of $3.75MM in guaranteed money, according to Jon Heyman of SI.com (on Twitter).

  82. mick January 17th, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    guess joba stays in the pen

  83. randy l. January 17th, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    google maps is a little twitchy. this is actually the spot :

    http://maps.google.com/maps?cl.....&z=15

  84. GreenBeret7 January 17th, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    joeman January 17th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
    # GreenBeret7 January 17th, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    Jones will be an addition like Sierra was. He should be able to handle his share of the load.
    ————————————————————————
    when I mention bringing Jones here last year you were very much against it, what changed in a year for you to OK with it now

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Because at mid-season last year, they had no need for Jones. I’m not crazy about him but, as of right now, today, he’s the best option to fill a need. If they were interested in re-signing Christian and giving him a legitimate chance. I’d take Christian.

  85. Patrick January 17th, 2011 at 4:51 pm

    guess joba stays in the pen

    Oh please son…

  86. DaSaint007 January 17th, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    I don’t believe you can start the year with Mitre and Nova comprising 40% of your rotation, particularly with an iffy #3 starter. To me it makes much more sense, barring trade, to sign a proven, albeit risky or mediocre veteran such as either Garcia or Duchschererher to be the #4 starter, and only have the #5 slot for a young arm looking to break into the rotation such as Nova.

    Should they fail, you can always bring up a young arm, but should you do it the other way around, you won’t find the veteran arm without it costing you your first born.

  87. mick January 17th, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    that’s cute patrick

  88. mick January 17th, 2011 at 4:58 pm

    To me it makes much more sense, barring trade, to sign a proven, albeit risky or mediocre veteran such as either Garcia or Duchschererher to be the #4 starter,
    =======================================Andy would be the best answer but he might be better served as a midseason pickup for his own health’s sake.

  89. GreenBeret7 January 17th, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    Simon, I’ve said that before, too. Sign one or two reclaimation projects and buy some more time for the kids to get ready. If they don’t work out or the kids are ready to produce, releasing or trading the project(s) off and bring on the kids. The object is getting 20-25 wins out of the #4-#5 slots regardless of who they are.

  90. BoJo January 17th, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    Randy–

    Looks like nice country up there….must have been fun growing up

  91. Chip January 17th, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan January 17th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
    My big concern is AJ Burnett. If he stinks it up, I think the rotation becomes basically untenable, no matter what they do at the bottom.

    As if his mechanics and mental makeup are not problematic enough, he is 33 and has been losing velocity on his fastball since 2007, going from 95.1 mph to 93.2. His strikeouts have dropped precipitously the last there years from 231 to 195 to 145.

    I have no idea where any optimism would come from.

    ——————–

    I’ve said this many times – If Andy retires then AJ Burnett will mean the difference between whether or not the Yankees make the playoffs. He is easily the lynchpin to the Yankee season.

  92. West Coast Yankee Fan January 17th, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    Blake – what about AJ’s drop in velocity and strike outs which has steadily declined since 2007. Not a cause for concern?

  93. West Coast Yankee Fan January 17th, 2011 at 5:03 pm

    Chip – I have seen you say that and I agree with you.

  94. BoJo January 17th, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    If Cashman WERE going to sign a reclamation project, why wouldn’t he done so by now? It is too risky to wait this long and have someone else sign them.

  95. Jerkface January 17th, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    Hughes and CC are what will keep the yankees out of the playoffs or not.

  96. BoJo January 17th, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    Chip–

    One guy is rarely the key to a season…it’s a team game. If AJ sucks, they’ll find someone else to take the innings….Javt was worked around…so was AJ last year and they still made it to the\play-offs

  97. BoJo January 17th, 2011 at 5:13 pm

    Look at Boston last year…Ellsbury, Pedroia, Youklis, Beclett, DiceK, etc all had bad years, but team hung on until late…anything can happen on game day…no one player is the key to a season…if it were so, that team had no chance anyway.

  98. LGY January 17th, 2011 at 5:14 pm

    I don’t think AJ will be as bad as last year, but it really is a mystery how much better he would be.

    My reason for optimism that he could actually bounce back big time?

    This may be hard to believe, but on May 8th Burnett had a 1.99 ERA. At the time I really thought Burnett had finally turned a corner. He was using his 2 seamer more especially to get out of trouble, he was avoiding meltdowns by composing himself and making big pitches, and just overall he was pitching smart. Over the next month he went downhill a bit, but still on June 15th he had a 3.86 ERA.

    Burnett made 33 starts last year. 13 starts into the year or after 39% of his season Burnett had a 3.86 ERA while averaging close to 6 2/3 innings per start. That includes a 4.1 inning 8 run blowup against Boston.

    If you remove that Boston start he had a 3.26 ERA and averaged 7 innings per start in 12 of his first 13 starts.

    Something happened to Burnett at that end of June. He was pitching great, excellent if you aside from that Boston start, but then he just went into a tailspin especially while Eiland was gone.

  99. 108 stitches January 17th, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    If the season started tomorrow, the weak links would be the No. 4 & 5 starters in the rotation and that’s assuming Rothschild works wonders with Burnett.
    There would have to be reason to believe that 2 of either Nova, Noesi, or Phelps could be helpful.

  100. Erica in NY January 17th, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    Pat M. January 17th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
    Erica…..I’m hoping to catch them at The Hollywood Bowl in April ( 16th )…….Prices are insane ….

    **************

    Yeah, I wasn’t a fan of the prices. I wpund up getting the ones that are $116ish. But they aren’t even particularly good seats.

  101. BoJo January 17th, 2011 at 5:16 pm

    LGY-

    Good analysis…I too think AJ will be better under the new coach, and if he isn’t, they’ll still be fine.

  102. LGY January 17th, 2011 at 5:17 pm

    Burnett’s ERA was 3.86 on June 15th.

    3 starts later it ballooned to 5.25.

  103. GreenBeret7 January 17th, 2011 at 5:18 pm

    One thing that hurt last year was nearly 2 months without a pitching coach. I don’t consider Harkey as much of a pitching coach.

  104. West Coast Yankee Fan January 17th, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    It’s not that one pitcher like AJ can make or break a year under ordinary circumstances, it is in the context of the entire rotation’s shortcomings this season that his inadequacies become exacerbated. Accordingly, it becomes exponentially more important for him to do well, where if we had relatively solid pitchers at the four and five it wouldn’t be as pressing a need.

  105. Sweet Swinging Cano January 17th, 2011 at 5:22 pm

    AJ is obviously the key to the Yankees season. CC is our rock and Hughes I feel is going to continue to improve. If aj can give us 2009 like production then watch out. But we still need another sp somewhere. I am not sold on Mitre and Nova. That just wont hold up.

  106. austinmac January 17th, 2011 at 5:22 pm

    DaSaint and GB,

    I have hoped for a quality starter this off-season, but that is not to be. Garcia seems like a must get tome. Duchscherer if very iffy health wise. Garcia will show up, pitch innings and keep you in games.

    I am just doubting the Yankees agree.

  107. Patrick January 17th, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    Joba Chamberlain, problem solved.

  108. Sweet Swinging Cano January 17th, 2011 at 5:24 pm

    The Yankees wont put him in the rotation. And I would bet money on that.

  109. Patrick January 17th, 2011 at 5:24 pm

    I would take that bet

  110. Sweet Swinging Cano January 17th, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    They don’t think he is cut out for it. I am not saying he is or he isn’t. I just get the sense they don’t think he is.

  111. blake January 17th, 2011 at 5:26 pm

    Decreasing velocity doesn’t mean a guy can’t be successful anymore, it just means they may have to change the way they pitch. If AJ isn’t going to pitch at 95-96 anymore then he can’t be a two pitch, his command isn’t good enough. If he will show hitters other looks (changeup, 2 seamed etc) then it will allow him.more mistakes with location…..something he was not getting away with last year.

  112. Patrick January 17th, 2011 at 5:26 pm

    I find it hard to believe that you know what the Yankees think

  113. Sweet Swinging Cano January 17th, 2011 at 5:27 pm

    It’s just my opinion. Of course I don’t know for sure.

  114. LGY January 17th, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    The two-time all-star catcher from Chelsea, Que., attending Baseball Canada’s annual awards banquet Saturday, attributed his consecutive off-years with the Los Angeles Dodgers to poor preparation.

    That’s all changed now, and he says “this year I’m looking to be better” than ever.

    “Probably some frustrations, probably not training as hard as I should have in some ways,” Martin said in explaining his 2009 and ’10 seasons. “That’s always been my strength, is training my butt off, doing all those things in the best way possible. And I think I had some distractions that maybe led me not to have that same drive that I’ve had in the past. Really, that’s all it is, I trained hard, but before nobody trained as hard as I did.

    “This year I feel like I’m back. Just mentally, I feel better.”

    Asked about the distractions, he said, “there are some things that you keep for yourself, and those distractions are personal.”

    http://sports.sympatico.ca/mlb.....s/82a1c275

  115. ac1 January 17th, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    They could have greater room to operate and get the same performance, not to mention they could have signed fuentes AND rauch for the price of 1 soriano and still signed feliciano and had 3 excellent lefties to combat the red sox.

    ___

    This is assuming they would have agreed to go to the yankees for the same salaries they signed for with oakland and toronto, which i DOUBT.

    You know they were both asking for much more from the Yankees, or they would have been options. Fuentes probably had to take less because the market started drying up for him.

    Rauch had one good year closing in place of Nathan.

  116. Pat M. January 17th, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    Erica…..If it was just Stevie I’d lay out the dough…I’ve seen Rodney dating back to the late 60′s when he was with Jeff Beck and beyond……In fact I just saw him a few years ago and he was very good…..However the good seats at the Hollywood Bowl will cost upwards of $ 500.00 plus my wife will want to spend the night in LA which will cost another $ 300.00……Chances are though she’ll want to go see Rod and I’ll get to see my girl Stevie……I’m still paying off my sentence for taking off to Vegas last March……..

  117. Sweet Swinging Cano January 17th, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    I hope this guy does good. Could turn into another swisher like signing.

  118. ac1 January 17th, 2011 at 5:30 pm

    Did i see a list this morning that said Gary Sanchez is ranked 3rd for minor league catchers in all the minors? only behind Montero and one other guy?

    Should we then assume he is probably the catcher of the future, and Romine will be trade bait in the next year or two?

  119. Jerkface January 17th, 2011 at 5:30 pm

    He only lost a fraction of 1 MPH off his fastball between 2009 and 2010, his peripherals were all similar, but he somehow struck out 2 less per 9. He got the same swinging misses, he walked less guys.

    The problem was with where he was pitching it, and I think that is correctable. I did a lot of extensive research, but ‘Good AJ’ is an AJ Burnett that is walking 4+ BB/9 and giving up no hits.

  120. Sweet Swinging Cano January 17th, 2011 at 5:31 pm

    Yankees should deal one of these catchers.

  121. Erica in NY January 17th, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    Pat M-

    Ouch.
    Just wondering what you thought of the pairing

  122. BoJo January 17th, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan January 17th, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    It’s not that one pitcher like AJ can make or break a year under ordinary circumstances, it is in the context of the entire rotation’s shortcomings this season that his inadequacies become exacerbated. Accordingly, it becomes exponentially more important for him to do well, where if we had relatively solid pitchers at the four and five it wouldn’t be as pressing a need.
    ++++++++++++++
    Why don’t wait until the end of April to decide how awful life is?

  123. Doreen January 17th, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    Pat M -

    That one trip is really leaving a residual huh? :lol:

    My husband is in Vegas this week for business. Neither one of us has ever been there before. I wanted to go with, but since this was business, he wasn’t sure what kind of time he’d have to spend with me. I told him I didn’t care – I’d find “something to do.” :) Anyway, it was last minute, so it wouldn’t have worked out. But it looks like it might be an annual thing, so I’m gonna plan ahead for next year!

  124. Sweet Swinging Cano January 17th, 2011 at 5:36 pm

    I can’t wait for opening day. Always excited for Yankee baseball.

  125. West Coast Yankee Fan January 17th, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    Why even talk about these things at all Bojo? I am talking about right now, we have one of the worst rotations in the AL IMO.

  126. joeman January 17th, 2011 at 5:38 pm

    # GreenBeret7 January 17th, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    joeman January 17th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
    # GreenBeret7 January 17th, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    Jones will be an addition like Sierra was. He should be able to handle his share of the load.
    ————————————————————————
    when I mention bringing Jones here last year you were very much against it, what changed in a year for you to OK with it now

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Because at mid-season last year, they had no need for Jones. I’m not crazy about him but, as of right now, today, he’s the best option to fill a need. If they were interested in re-signing Christian and giving him a legitimate chance. I’d take Christian.
    ——————————————–
    fair enough

  127. BoJo January 17th, 2011 at 5:38 pm

    ac1 January 17th, 2011 at 5:30 pm

    Did i see a list this morning that said Gary Sanchez is ranked 3rd for minor league catchers in all the minors? only behind Montero and one other guy?

    Should we then assume he is probably the catcher of the future, and Romine will be trade bait in the next year or two?
    ++++++++++++++
    Or we could take it one year at a time and wait to see how he does at each level. Remember these names:

    Jackson Melian? Rueben Rivera? Wily Mo Pena? Eric Duncan (the next Todd Helton)?

  128. BoJo January 17th, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan January 17th, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    Why even talk about these things at all Bojo? I am talking about right now, we have one of the worst rotations in the AL IMO.
    ++++++++++
    I’ll hold judgment until I at least see what they break camp with. Before then, it doesn’t matter.

    I’m all for talking about, but not for judging it yet.

  129. Sweet Swinging Cano January 17th, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    Worst in the al? No way. If aj does good its hardly a bad rotation. We just need a vet to give some solid innings at this point.

  130. GreenBeret7 January 17th, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    austinmac January 17th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
    DaSaint and GB,

    I have hoped for a quality starter this off-season, but that is not to be. Garcia seems like a must get tome. Duchscherer if very iffy health wise. Garcia will show up, pitch innings and keep you in games.

    I am just doubting the Yankees agree.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    short of a trade, those two would seem to be the only targets. After Pettitte/Lee, there really was next to nothing on the market that was worth the asking price in talent or money. I haven’t even seen money quotes on these two, so no idea what they are looking for. People can guess all day long on who they should get, but, not many teams are dealing good pitchers without wanting a complete farm system. When it gets beyond common sense, it’s time to back away. That’s where the Greinke deal got.

  131. Doreen January 17th, 2011 at 5:42 pm

    It depends on the vet, doesn’t it?

  132. Sweet Swinging Cano January 17th, 2011 at 5:42 pm

    But some fans expect miracles to happen. Or think the Yankees need to sign everyone out there. When it just doesn’t work like that.

  133. Sweet Swinging Cano January 17th, 2011 at 5:43 pm

    Of course. Notice I said solid innings. Garcia isn’t a bad option.

  134. Jerkface January 17th, 2011 at 5:43 pm

    Burnett’s release point according to pitchFX drifted as much as an extra 6 inches to a foot from his center point. Before he kept it within 6 inches.

  135. BoJo January 17th, 2011 at 5:43 pm

    Pat M

    Truth—Jeff Back Group with Rod Stewart–still one of my all time favorite albums, along with Beck-Ola.

  136. Erica in NY January 17th, 2011 at 5:43 pm

    Doreen-

    I have no doubts you would definitely find something to do there.

    I would love to go back there soon. But in the meantime, I’ll always have AC

  137. West Coast Yankee Fan January 17th, 2011 at 5:44 pm

    Bojo – I am evaluating the rotation based on what my opinion is now. I have no idea what if anything Cashman is going to do or not do.

  138. Jerkface January 17th, 2011 at 5:44 pm

    Comparing 2009 to 2010. Rothschild should look at that. He still had nasty stuff. He threw 20% sinkers, which was clocked at 93 mph average and sank 10 inches.

  139. Sweet Swinging Cano January 17th, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    I don’t think people need to get too worked up just yet. I highly doubt the Yankees believe Nova and Mitre are suitable to round out the rotation.

  140. GreenBeret7 January 17th, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    West Coast enjoys playing the part of Bette Davis as “The Drama Queen Of LoHud”.

  141. BoJo January 17th, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan January 17th, 2011 at 5:44 pm

    Bojo – I am evaluating the rotation based on what my opinion is now. I have no idea what if anything Cashman is going to do or not do.
    ++++++++++++++
    When they start playing games in January, I’ll judge them then. Until then, I’ll just talk about what I hope to see without casting judgment or comparing them to anyone else. I don’t believe anything is set in stone until the beginning of season.

  142. Doreen January 17th, 2011 at 5:48 pm

    Erica -

    I’m not much of a gambler – well, I’m not a gambler at all. But I like to shop and eat, and I love to walk around and watch people. And I can have fun anywhere!

  143. BoJo January 17th, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    Jerkface–

    Dead on. AJ’s velocity shift–I believe–was due more to a change in pitching approach than any loss of velocity. Halladay–sho loves using a 2 seamer–had an influence on him and got him to throw more sinkers…which tend to be a little slower that 4 seamers.

    This was also a big difference in Joba’s pitching under Eiland. Eiland was trying to get him to throw more 2 seamers, and when Joba came back from ASB in 2009, he threw 4 seamers and mentioned it was his preference…Joba’s 2 seamers were about 91-92mph and 4 seamers 95-97mph

  144. blake January 17th, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    Jerkface,

    Yea he was all over the place last year…that info leads me to believe the struggles and velocity downturn was more mechanical than actual physical decline. As I’ve said before…..cautiously optimistic on AJ for 2011.

  145. West Coast Yankee Fan January 17th, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    Sorry if my accurate analysis of AJ’s performance disturnbed you GB. Maybe you can talk about battleships some more.

  146. ac1 January 17th, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    Pettitte will be back by June.

  147. joeman January 17th, 2011 at 5:52 pm

    # Doreen January 17th, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    Pat M -

    That one trip is really leaving a residual huh? :lol:

    My husband is in Vegas this week for business. Neither one of us has ever been there before. I wanted to go with, but since this was business, he wasn’t sure what kind of time he’d have to spend with me. I told him I didn’t care – I’d find “something to do.” :) Anyway, it was last minute, so it wouldn’t have worked out. But it looks like it might be an annual thing, so I’m gonna plan ahead for next year!
    ———————————————————

    I go there at least twice a year sometimes three, did you know 75% of the people that go there don’t gamble …..so much to do and see….

  148. MG January 17th, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    AJ’s issues are almost all location plus his problem last year throwing his breaking ball for strikes.

    When he misses in the strike zone with the 4 seam fastball it gets hammered fairly often. I would guess that’s because the movement is all horizontal and the misses are in the batter’s wheelhouse far too often.

    Blake and I agree that he should throw the 2 seam fastball more often because the missed location pitches will wind up as singles instead of dingers.

    I can’t see how he can be as bad this year as in 2010, his stuff is still good enough to win consistently. And he pitched too well early in 2010 with essentially the same pitch assortment as when he was awful to justify a claim that he can no longer get out major league batters with his diminished fastball. I would hope having a new pitching coach and a fresh start will do wonder for him, if not he’s going to be sitting in the bullpen for a long time just as Kenny Holzman did about a year after the Yankees got him in a trade.

  149. GreenBeret7 January 17th, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    Seeing you pontificate on here “disturnbs” me.

  150. MG January 17th, 2011 at 5:55 pm

    GreenBeret7 January 17th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
    West Coast enjoys playing the part of Bette Davis as “The Drama Queen Of LoHud”.
    ==========================
    GB, he’s actually the troll ‘queen’ of the internet, the eunuch of a thousand screen names…

  151. Erica in NY January 17th, 2011 at 5:55 pm

    new thread :arrow:

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