Adding one means losing one
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 24, 2011 
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When the Yankees make their Andruw Jones signing official, they will have to make an accompanying move to open a spot on the 40-man. Most of the players on the roster are there for an obvious reason. They’re either premier young players or have an obvious role to play in New York, and this group won’t even enter the discussion of who to drop from the roster.
Clearly staying on the roster: Dellin Betances, Andrew Brackman, A.J. Burnett, Joba Chamberlain, Pedro Feliciano, Phil Hughes, Boone Logan, Sergio Mitre, Hector Noesi, Ivan Nova, Mariano Rivera, Dave Robertson, CC Sabathia, Rafael Soriano, Francisco Cervelli, Russell Martin, Jorge Posada, Robinson Cano, Derek Jeter, Brandon Laird, Eduardo Nunez, Ramiro Pena, Alex Rodriguez, Mark Teixeira, Brett Gardner, Curtis Granderson, Melky Mesa, Nick Swisher
Beyond that group, there are a few who might not jump out like the ones listed above, but they’re clearly a step ahead of some of the alternatives. They’ve either already played a role in the big leagues or help to fill a legitimate hole in the upper levels of the minor league system (specifically left-handed pitching, relief pitching and outfield depth).
No reason to lose them: Steve Garrison, Ryan Pope, Colin Curtis, Greg Golson, Kevin Russo
For me, that leaves seven candidates who could fall off the roster and open a spot for Jones. Most of these are pretty much unknowns within the Yankees system, having never played in the organization. The roster might be full, but in a lot of ways it’s also wide open with spots that could open without the Yankees taking a significant hit.
LHP Robert Fish: Rule 5 pick whose slim chances of making the roster became even smaller with the addition of Feliciano. Dropping Fish from the roster would likely have no impact on the big league roster, but there is something to be said for having this option in spring training, especially as an injury contngency plan.
LHP Damaso Marte: I’m fairly certain that players can’t be put on the 60-day disabled list just yet, which means Marte has to either stay on the roster or be designated for assignment. The fact he won’t take up a spot when the year starts makes me think the Yankees will keep him around for now and try to rehab him back for a late-season addition.
RHP Romulo Sanchez: The big, hard-throwing right-hander could compete for a long relief job this spring — and his raw stuff is pretty impressive — but he’s also out of options, meaning he has to make the team to pass through waivers. If the Yankees don’t think he can make the big league club, they could drop him from the roster now. Otherwise, they might as well keep him around to give him a look.
RHP Brian Schlitter: Claimed earlier this month out of the Cubs organization, Schlitter had solid numbers in the hitter friendly PCL last season, and he has options. For a minor league system that’s lost some upper-level relievers, Schlitter seems to fit as solid minor league depth, but he’s also the most recent 40-man addition and it’s hard to say just how highly the Yankees actually think of him.
RHP Daniel Turpen: The other Rule 5 pick is in the same boat as Fish: He seems like a long-shot to make the roster, but there’s a lot to be said for bringing him to camp as a contingency plan should someone else get hurt. The Yankees could lose him and we’d all probably forget his name within a few weeks, but the Yankees think there’s legitimate talent there and might want to get a closer look.
INF Reegie Corona: Granted, I don’t have all of the scouting information that’s in front of the Yankees, but Corona would be my pick to dump from the roster to open a spot for Jones. That’s not to knock him as a player, but he did hit only .238 last year and suffered a pretty serious injury, one that will keep him from opening this season on an active roster. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him clear waivers, and even if he’s lost, Corona is somewhere behind Nunez, Pena, Russo and Laird for an infield call-up.
OF Jordan Parraz: I wouldn’t expect this one to be dumped from the roster, but Parraz was an offseason waiver claim, and my guess is the Yankees prefer the outfielders they know — Golson, Curtis and Russo — as minor league depth. That could make Parraz expendable, but I’d be surprised to see him go. The Yankees outfield is thin in the upper levels, and that probably gives Parraz real value that’s worth keeping.
Associated Press photo of Marte
RHP Daniel Turpen: The other Rule 5 pick is in the same boat as Fish:
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Like the fish theme.
Patrick January 24th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Chip,
You were very clear and I wasn’t confused a bit. But lets be fair, you are giving the Angels more credit for having Trout than you’ve given the Yankees for any of their prospects. You can’t say the Yankees should trade their prospects for big league players and at the same time say the Angels are well positioned because Trout will be up in the big leagues this year or next.
And I can say Juan Rivera and Vernon Wells are the same because they have been over the last two years.
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Well first of all – you’re again making it sound like I’m saying that the Yankees should slash and burn their farm system and trade all their prospects. That’s not my opinion, has never been my opinion and is a silly statement to make. All I have ever said is that in the right deal there is no such thing as an untouchable prospect.
And in my estimation the same holds true for Trout. He is an asset for the Angels – whether that is as a result of him playing for the Angels or a result of what the Angels could get for him in trade.
Big market/revenue teams like the Yankees and Angels can be more flexible in moving their prospects because they have the financial flexibility to trade for or sign established major league talent.
I had forgotten Corona was on the roster – he is the likely one to go (which means he’ll probably stay and someone else will go that will leave all Yankee fans going “What?”)
Trisha: Good idea for the Cubs to have Goat day. Does that mean that they would bring Buckner back too?
GB: Black and Blue Division was amazing. The NFL changes alignment way too often for me. I will always think of the Bears/Packers division as being the “black and blue” division.
I don’t anticipate the Yankees letting Fish or Turpen go before they’ve had a chance to look at them in Spring Training. Sanchez could probably put together a reasonably strong spring and be traded for something of value and as Chad points out Schlitter adds some pretty needed minor league depth.
Oh, and I would be shocked if Damaso Marte ever throws another pitch for the Yankees.
I hear that Buckner is being brought back to manage somewhere in the beantown organization.
“…and it’s a 3-2 splitter from Schlitter for the strikeout! Yankees win! The-e-e-e Yankees win!”
I do think that overall the Jets are a better team than the Steelers. But as they say, on any given day, yada yada yada.
And don’t forget, but for an unfortunate series of downs at the goal line, that could have ended up being the Jets game. And then what would you be saying mick? They definitely picked it up in the second half. Lots of teams have had bad first halfs and better second halfs. It’s the game of football.
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I have a soft spot for the Bears because I had some of their players, plus their D/ST, on my fantasy football team. I do become attached to my fantasy players.
Anyway, have a great day all.
Catch y’all later.
# hardwired7 January 24th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
“…and it’s a 3-2 splitter from Schlitter for the strikeout! Yankees win! The-e-e-e Yankees win!”
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we are in the schitter if schlitter is closing for us…
I could never forget Daniel Turpen’s name. Peter Gammons told us years ago he was a future closer with one toe poking into the hall of fame.
Of course that was when he was with Boston.
Now that he’s a Yankee, he stinks…until he’s returned to Boston where he’ll be quickly called “the best bullpen arm in the minor leagues”.
Fwiw, Billy Buck always impressed me as a player and as a person. While I never wanted the Beantowners to ever win a WS, it was too bad that he was made to be the goat against the Mets. As with Bartman, it took a lot more than that to lose. On that note, it was amazing to me that they could not close it out with Wood and Prior pitching the last two games. Sigh….
G. Love January 24th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
I could never forget Daniel Turpen’s name. Peter Gammons told us years ago he was a future closer with one toe poking into the hall of fame.
Of course that was when he was with Boston.
Now that he’s a Yankee, he stinks…until he’s returned to Boston where he’ll be quickly called “the best bullpen arm in the minor leagues”.
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LOL – I thought that was Craig Hansen
I could never forget Daniel Turpen’s name. Peter Gammons told us years ago he was a future closer with one toe poking into the hall of fame.
Of course that was when he was with Boston.
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Are you sure? Because it looks like Turpen was drafted by the Giants and then traded/picked up by the Red Sox in 2010 and pitched 18 unspectacular innings for them. This year.
“I hear that Buckner is being brought back to manage somewhere in the beantown organization.”
Nope. He’s managing the Brockton Rox, an indy league team 20-25 miles south of Boston.
Jerkface,
He definitely referenced Turpen in an article or on the air otherwise I’d have no idea who he was when the Yankees claimed him. He was very high on him when Boston was having it’s bullpen troubles as a big part of the future solution.
Mathis will probably be the worst player in baseball to take the field Opening Day.
Rodg12…..The rules for the poll are simple……You invest $ 2,000.00 dollars ( up from 1 g last season ) against the house banker….You have to play all 30 teams with a 40.00 minimum per team…….You disperse the 2 grand any way you care to as long as you satisfy the 40.00 base line investment….Last year I played 20.00 on 25 teams and 100.00 on the remaining 5 clubs…..With the help of several here ( CB, GB, Randy, SJ, Nick in SF & a few others who I’m failing to remember at this time ) who were not intimidated to go on the record I hit all 5 big best and overall I only lost on 4 picks…I did push on 3 ……Nick in SF and I hit The SF Giants all the way….Astros on the unders was CB’s contribution and seemed like a lock until they got hot after the break and came within 1 game of covering the unders……I look forward to those who want to offer they’re top 5 or so during Spring Training….All picks have to be turned in 24 hours before Opening Day, or as early as when the lines come out…..
Corona should go.
Corona and Sanchez are the two most likely candidates to get traded/released or DFA’d.
LGY January 24th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Mathis will probably be the worst player in baseball to take the field Opening Day.
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Not as long as Melky Cabrera is set to be the opening day CF for the Royals.
Besides, I think there’s a pretty good chance Wilson beats Mathis out.
Dad, those days of the “Black and Blue” were closer to being the old 6 team NHL. Those games were all out war.
Marte will always get a pass from me.
“Not as long as Melky Cabrera is set to be the opening day CF for the Royals”
Cain will probably beat out Melky.
GB, Kornfield Kounty?? You might be on to something. Perhaps the State can change the name of Marshall County (where Rodg is from) to Kornfield Kounty.
Pat M., how soon do you need the teams submitted. I can’t afford to put money on it, but, I’m willing to bet using your’s.
j/k. I would like to give you my picks anyway.
Dad, do you live in “Madison County”? All kidding aside, that really is a beautiful state, but, there are so many teams around you guys and all in different states that it’s no wonder that nobody roots for the same teams. Lots to be proud of there, from Bob Feller to the Sullivan Brothers.
# Pat M. January 24th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Rodg12…..The rules for the poll are simple……You invest $ 2,000.00 dollars ( up from 1 g last season ) against the house banker….You have to play all 30 teams with a 40.00 minimum per team…….You disperse the 2 grand any way you care to as long as you satisfy the 40.00 base line investment….Last year I played 20.00 on 25 teams and 100.00 on the remaining 5 clubs…..With the help of several here ( CB, GB, Randy, SJ, Nick in SF & a few others who I’m failing to remember at this time ) who were not intimidated to go on the record I hit all 5 big best and overall I only lost on 4 picks…I did push on 3 ……Nick in SF and I hit The SF Giants all the way….Astros on the unders was CB’s contribution and seemed like a lock until they got hot after the break and came within 1 game of covering the unders……I look forward to those who want to offer they’re top 5 or so during Spring Training….All picks have to be turned in 24 hours before Opening Day, or as early as when the lines come out…..
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Good work! I threw my 5 out there last year, but can’t remember who they were. I’ll have to give it another shot during ST this year. Also gonna try to do this type of thing with my buddies, but with lower stakes.
# GreenBeret7 January 24th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
Doing well, Rodg. Thanks for asking. Hope all is well with you and your family there in Kornfield Kounty. Just trying to teach Dad some Bear manners. LMAO.
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LOL. Doing well here too. Kornfield Kounty is rather apropos for my area. Of course, it applies to much of the state.
Maybe those of us who are uncomfortable with putting in all $2000 could get together and pool. I would be part of the pool only if I could copy Pat’s picks. (I don’t think I follow enough other teams closely enough to bet on their relative success next year) Of course, I am not sure Pat would even want to share his picks. If nothing else, if Pat did share his picks, we all could follow along with him through the year. Perhaps even a Kansas City vs. Cleveland game would mean something then!!
Mell January 24th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
“Not as long as Melky Cabrera is set to be the opening day CF for the Royals”
Cain will probably beat out Melky.
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Fair enough – I will ammend to:
“Not as long as Melky Cabrera is set to be the opening day LF for the Royals”
We live in a county even more rural than Madison County. But, as with all states, we do have a lot to be proud of in Iowa. The Sullivan brothers, Bob Feller, the Duke, Donna Reed, the unofficial state song (in heaven, there is no beer…..), etc. Besides, it is one of the best states to raise kids.
I would rather have the Melk Man than Mathis. Mathis is just atrocious with his sub 6 OPS.
GB…..You gave me The Reds over and Boston under and The Braves over……Rodg12….You just need someone to be the bank and play the field vs. the rest of the guys……..The Bank seldom loses…..Out of 20 guys last season, only 3 won money……
Melky Cabrera is better than Jeff Mathis. He plays better defense and hit .255 .317 .354 .671. A consider upgrade from Mathis.
In news that may color past conversations on trades: The Royals announced they are moving stud catching prospect Wil myers to the outfield. He has a very good bat and actually played solid defense (throwing out 30+% of runners), but I guess the royals remain unconvinced.
Shoulda traded Romine for Soria!
Pat M… makes more sense to be the Bank. But, more fun to play. Kind of like going to a casino.
Melky was awful last year but still out OPSd Mathis by 174 points. 174!!
OMG Mathis is awful.
I’ll be the bank. just send me the money orders to hold.
I wonder how living in the Caymans will be?
GB….You’re a consultant, 3 piece suits I have to think are not quite your style……GB in a Brooks Brothers Suit ?????
GB, plan to go away with a certain nurse we have all heard about?
# Chip January 24th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Mell January 24th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
“Not as long as Melky Cabrera is set to be the opening day CF for the Royals”
Cain will probably beat out Melky.
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Fair enough – I will ammend to:
“Not as long as Melky Cabrera is set to be the opening day LF for the Royals”
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If Cain’s in CF, Melky isn’t starting in the OF. Royals have Gordan and Francoeur on the corners. Just sayin….
Unless Andy does not sign, I hope we are done with new acquisitions this year. At some point, we need to see what the kids can do. I am not worried about any other team. If the Yanks can continue to mix youth with veterans, homegrown with trades/free agents, I think we will be okay. Number 28 is within sight.
DadinIowa January 24th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
We live in a county even more rural than Madison County. But, as with all states, we do have a lot to be proud of in Iowa. The Sullivan brothers, Bob Feller, the Duke, Donna Reed, the unofficial state song (in heaven, there is no beer…..), etc. Besides, it is one of the best states to raise kids.
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Always enjoyed the small big city life of Davenport. Reminded me of Cheyanne, Wyoming and Austin, Texas from about 30 years ago. Just a great place to go to….except in the winter, if you don’t have 4 wheel drive and a snow mobile.
Interestingly, the only player in baseball who really hit worse than Mathis last year was Wood.
So the Angels could have signed Beltre and had some decent options at catcher to sign.
Instead they downgraded at catcher and added another OF!
rodg12 January 24th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
# Chip January 24th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Mell January 24th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
“Not as long as Melky Cabrera is set to be the opening day CF for the Royals”
Cain will probably beat out Melky.
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Fair enough – I will ammend to:
“Not as long as Melky Cabrera is set to be the opening day LF for the Royals”
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If Cain’s in CF, Melky isn’t starting in the OF. Royals have Gordan and Francoeur on the corners. Just sayin….
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Well then I further amend my statement to “Not if Alex Gordon is slated to be the opening day LF for the Royals.”
At least Mathis can play defense I suppose.
Deal Romulo Sanchez and Reegie Corona to Houston for LH Wandy Rodriquez.
Pat M. January 24th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
GB….You’re a consultant, 3 piece suits I have to think are not quite your style……GB in a Brooks Brothers Suit ?????
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Brooks Brothers makes 3 piece shorts suits in camouflage?
“Third, Jerkface, I asked that same question about who should replace Cashman if for whatever reason he does not come back as GM”
doreen-
the yankees are going to be the first team to go all sabermetric and are going to hire Watson the computer as soon as he finishes his Jeopardy gig.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-20028420-76.html
“It was a significantly bigger challenge to build than Deep Blue, according to David Ferrucci, the IBM Research “investigator” in charge of building DeepQA, the “massively parallel probabilistic evidence-based architecture technology” that powers Watson and has been in development since 2007.
now does that sound like GM material or what?
we have to get Watson before the red sox do.
LGY January 24th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
Interestingly, the only player in baseball who really hit worse than Mathis last year was Wood.
So the Angels could have signed Beltre and had some decent options at catcher to sign.
Instead they downgraded at catcher and added another OF!
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They already upgraded at 3b from Wood with the Callaspo trade last year.
The addition of Wells vastly improves their overall OF defense
I don’t think they feel the same way about Napoli as a catcher as you do – and if anyone’s going to have a pretty good feel for the position it is their manager.
Dad, you’re almost right. It’s the nurse that I’m trying to run away from. I told her my name was Randy and I was coming down to live with her forever. I had no idea that she could track me down.
At least Mathis can play defense I suppose.
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43 stolen bases allowed, 11 CS 6 passed balls, 39 wild pitches in 553 innings
For example posada
72 stolen bases, 13 allowed 8 passed balls 32 wild pitches in 678 innings
Jeff Mathis is pretty damn close to Jorge Posada
jonmorosi #Dbacks acquire Armando Galarraga from #Tigers for right-handed pitcher Kevin Eichhorn and left-handed pitcher Ryan Robowski. #Detroit #MLB
Chip……LGY & Face are former Tin Cups in another life I suspect, but not The Original Tin Cup…..I can hear a howl from the chill of Cape Cod……..My new pool service sends out an assistant outfitted in snuggish shorts and a bikini top…..Hello new pool service
randy l -
I couldn’t believe they wasted resources on a computer that could play jeopardy! I’m sure there’s some kind of practical application, but on the face of it, it sure sounds silly. However, a computer that could be the GM of a baseball team? That sounds practical!
Seriously, as long as a GM uses all the resources available to him, I think saber should be a part of the process. As long as it’s not at the expense of the more traditional methods, and as long as resources are put into live scouting, development, coaching, that sort of thing.
I wish there was a way to know where the Yankees stand in that regard. They should be the cream of the crop, because of their wealth.
” I had no idea that she could track me down.”
gb7-
good luck finding that GPS chip she hid in you while you were under anesthesia . we won’t even speculate how she got it in there.
pat January 24th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
jonmorosi #Dbacks acquire Armando Galarraga from #Tigers for right-handed pitcher Kevin Eichhorn and left-handed pitcher Ryan Robowski. #Detroit #MLB
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They also brought back former pitching prospect Micah Owings on a minor league deal.
I’m guessing the Galarraga trade hurts Heilman’s chances of getting that starting job he was hoping for.
Pat M. January 24th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Chip……LGY & Face are former Tin Cups in another life I suspect, but not The Original Tin Cup…..I can hear a howl from the chill of Cape Cod……..My new pool service sends out an assistant outfitted in snuggish shorts and a bikini top…..Hello new pool service
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nice
randy l. January 24th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
” I had no idea that she could track me down.”
gb7-
good luck finding that GPS chip she hid in you while you were under anesthesia . we won’t even speculate how she got it in there.
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Now that’s just ugly. LMAO
I couldn’t believe they wasted resources on a computer that could play jeopardy! I’m sure there’s some kind of practical application, but on the face of it, it sure sounds silly. However, a computer that could be the GM of a baseball team?
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Well the computers ability to play jeopardy is a direct application of the analytical skill of the computer to think through complex questions where the answer is not apparent or even the subject. So, if it can do that, imagine what else it can do.
Pat M. January 24th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Chip……LGY & Face are former Tin Cups in another life I suspect, but not The Original Tin Cup…..I can hear a howl from the chill of Cape Cod……..My new pool service sends out an assistant outfitted in snuggish shorts and a bikini top…..Hello new pool service
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Yeah, but those guys in California were always a little “different”. To them, that’s the new style.
Chip
Gordon like Melky out OPSd Mathis by 174 points last year. 174!
Doreen January 24th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
randy l -
I couldn’t believe they wasted resources on a computer that could play jeopardy! I’m sure there’s some kind of practical application, but on the face of it, it sure sounds silly. However, a computer that could be the GM of a baseball team? That sounds practical!
Seriously, as long as a GM uses all the resources available to him, I think saber should be a part of the process. As long as it’s not at the expense of the more traditional methods, and as long as resources are put into live scouting, development, coaching, that sort of thing.
I wish there was a way to know where the Yankees stand in that regard. They should be the cream of the crop, because of their wealth.
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Doreen -
You know the computer does more than just play Jeopardy right?
jerkface -
As I said, I’m sure it’s got practical application and it must be amazing.
On the face of it, it sounds silly. That’s all.
I’m really not that dumb.
Chip -
YES!!!
melky cabrera was the center fielder on a yankees championship team.
find someone who doesnt wear a yankees ring to rag on.
you go melkman!
Doreen January 24th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Chip -
YES!!!
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Just checking
actually the practical application is pretty ingenius – it’s a step closer to a true thinking machine. If that works the potential is pretty unlimited.
YsGuy January 24th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
melky cabrera was the center fielder on a yankees championship team.
find someone who doesnt wear a yankees ring to rag on.
you go melkman!
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In all fairness – Charlie Hays was the 3b for a Yankee championship team – doesn’t make him a good player either.
Doreen -
You know the computer does more than just play Jeopardy right?
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That isn’t in the proper Jeopardy format. Chip was supposed to give the answer…not ask the question. He is disqualified for attempting to sound superior to everyone and failing.
GB, I think Randy and your nurse would make a great couple. I hear that she learned her skills in the Twins organization.
GreenBeret7 January 24th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Doreen -
You know the computer does more than just play Jeopardy right?
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That isn’t in the proper Jeopardy format. Chip was supposed to give the answer…not ask the question. He is disqualified for attempting to sound superior to everyone and failing.
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Wasn’t trying to sound superior – there are a lot of people who have asked the same question.
However if there’s a prize for cranky old geezer – well it should be named the GB7 Award at this point.
DadinIowa January 24th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
GB, I think Randy and your nurse would make a great couple. I hear that she learned her skills in the Twins organization.
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OUCH!!! touche, Dad.
actually the practical application is pretty ingenius – it’s a step closer to a true thinking machine. If that works the potential is pretty unlimited.
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A true thinking machine? Maybe WCYF could buy one and then he’d be able to stop parroting jon heyman
Pat M. – male or female?
Chip -
That is what I thought.
The promotion for it during Jeopardy really doesn’t do it justice.
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GB7 -
If they disqualified people for attempting to sound superior, Alex Trebek would have been out of a job a long time ago. I do sense he’s mellowing just a little this season, though.
“However if there’s a prize for cranky old geezer – well it should be named the GB7 Award at this point.”
chip-
you need to remember though that gb7 has to read your comments. if you had to read yourself you’d be cranky too.
Chip -
I didn’t take your question the wrong way, no worries.
Reading back what I typed to Randy l, it does sound like I’m a bubblehead.
Joe from Long Island January 24th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Pat M. – male or female?
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Joe, he’ll be back in a few. He went outside to check. They all look alike.
Doreen January 24th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Chip -
That is what I thought.
The promotion for it during Jeopardy really doesn’t do it justice.
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GB7 -
If they disqualified people for attempting to sound superior, Alex Trebek would have been out of a job a long time ago. I do sense he’s mellowing just a little this season, though.
randy
Did your Dad get the book yet?
Doreen January 24th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Chip -
That is what I thought.
The promotion for it during Jeopardy really doesn’t do it justice.
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GB7 -
If they disqualified people for attempting to sound superior, Alex Trebek would have been out of a job a long time ago. I do sense he’s mellowing just a little this season, though.
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having to tone it down was the only way he could get the job of selling Colonial Life Insurance.
chip, hayes was fine for what he was. he gave boggs a breather when he needed it. im not making him out to be good, just a guy on a yankees team that i rooted for and they won.
and hayes was a backup, melky started in CF the whole year. thats significant.
GB7 -
LOL!
Joe from Long Island…….The bikini wearing assistant is a blond who is eye candy-ish young lady who works this job part time as she’s a College student……The service empoys about 15 of these young struggling female college students as pool helpers……And to think my wife fired the last service to hire these kind folks…….Mums the world around here……
Pat M
I hope you tip well.
“GB, I think Randy and your nurse would make a great couple. I hear that she learned her skills in the Twins organization.”
dadiniowa-
i’m not sure you and me are going to get along.
“Did your Dad get the book yet?”
maine yankee-
it came today. he’s been reading it since it came. it turns out my uncle ken who was 12 years older than my father had a team that was a rival of cash clark’s team back before the war. my father as a kid used to watch the two teams go at it.
i’ll keep you posted as more details come out. thanks again for telling me about the book. it made my father’s day.
Speaking of game shows and eye-candyish blondes, vanna White has been turning letters and heads for 30 years. Not a bad job for a 53 year old woman with very little if any talent at $3-$5 mil a year.
GB7 -
Yeah, Vanna White really got quite a gig. Pat Sajak, too, for that matter.
You know, when you type the numbers, “53,” it looks a whole lot worse that it really is. I should know. Vanna and I were born, I think, a day apart. Feels like 35.
9 PM Tuesday, MLB-TV will have the top 50 prospects in baseball. Should be a lot of bragging and whining following that one.
Doreen January 24th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
GB7 -
Yeah, Vanna White really got quite a gig. Pat Sajak, too, for that matter.
You know, when you type the numbers, “53,” it looks a whole lot worse that it really is. I should know. Vanna and I were born, I think, a day apart. Feels like 35.
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That’s probably what we both did…inverted the numbers accidently.
You’re getting quite a birthday present, Doreen. They’re opening spring training just to celebrate your birthday.
Melky ’09:
485AB 13HR 68RBI .752 OPS
Gardner ’10:
477AB 5HR 47RBI .762 OPS
From Kevin Goldstein at ESPN, some fascinating draft picks taken relatively late.
#31 – Gred Maddux
#38 – David Wright
#41 – Fred Lynn
#42 – Clay Buchholz, Mookie Wilson
#52 – Carl Crawford
#60 – Steve Garvey, Jonathon Broxton
#75 – Grady Sizemore, Tino Martinez, Wade Davis
#89 – Randy Johnson and Justin Morneau
Pat Sajak used to do the local weather for The LA affiliate here in LA years ago……I say that both Doreen and Vanna don the Pinstripes and report next month with the pitchers and catchers, maybe one of them can make the rotation…….Sergio Mitre oh my…..Maybe I need to view him with kinder eyes………Maine yankee, I usually wait until Christmas to pass out tips, however I figure I can slip her a fin for her hard work at looking good…..
Bryan Hoch’s questions and answers on the Yankee pitching staff.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=nyy
Melky ’09:
485AB 13HR 68RBI .752 OPS
Gardner ’10:
477AB 5HR 47RBI .762 OPS
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.274 .336 .416 .752
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.277 .383 .379 .762
Average defense
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Gold Glove defense
10 stolen bases
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47 stolen bases
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Was nice of the Yankees to do that, wasn’t it? If only they’d send me a ticket…
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If Andy is coming back, but not at the start of the season, I think Mitre could fill the spot. He gets a bummer rap than he deserves, I think.
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Is it possible that some of the guys who go earlier in the draft may peak early physically? And the goes that go in later rounds still have a bit of developing to do, so they’re more “diamonds in the rough,” so to speak? (I am not speak to every single one, but just saying you can find diamonds in the rough in later rounds because some people develop later than others.)
not sure that Doreen or vanna have the arms, but, maybe with their legs, they can run up to the plate and bat their eyes and smile and totally disrupt the hitters plans. I say 34 consecutive perfect games each. They could probably start 40-50 games each, but, no sense in tiring them out and getting sweaty wet and breathing hard.
Check that. I just got 3D and HD. Let’em start 81 games a year each. I’ll risk having a heart attack to watch that.
Doreen, that’s been one of the Yankee scouts abilities. Finding late picks like Pettitte in the 22nd round and Posada in the 24th round of the ’92 draft and Mattingly in the 19th round in ’79.
I’ll take the pop. I’m a skeptic of the plate approach where a walk is best case scenario and traded for high strikeouts and few XBH.
I’d say to add Erica and Erin to the pitching staff, but, I doubt that Bud will allow them to wear their Bert And Ernie t-shirts, hats and mittens in the games.
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Vanna has the legs. Alas, I am height-challenged.
As a Bears fan, I was all over the boards last night and it was shameful. Some, with a shred of decency, defended him, but most ripped him to pieces. This is a town that eats its QBs alive. Ok, Grossman wasn’t much, but he didn’t deserve the crap he got from the fans (or the media) and now Jay is going to have to go through the same thing. All those players sitting at home, tweeting and piling on Cutler, need to grow up – and enough with the Rivers comparison. I think I read on the boards that Rivers sat out the rest of the game he was injured in – not that it matters had he played. Now Cutler has a bad injury and will ESPN (yes, you Trent Dilfer and you Merril Hoge) and all the other players out there apologize? Nope. Cutler may be like Bartman in Chicago, but his teammates had his back and frankly I hope he stays there. This guy is persona non grata it seems………what other team would want him (not that I agree, but this is based on last night). As a QB, he’s a guy you can win with, but he’s like AJ Burnett – I’m not sure you can win a SB with him as he’s too inconsistent.
GreenBeret7 January 24th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
I’d say to add Erica and Erin to the pitching staff, but, I doubt that Bud will allow them to wear their Bert And Ernie t-shirts, hats and mittens in the games.
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I throw like a girl
Is it a total roll of the dice, or can some scouts tell when certain players will have more to offer going forward? And what would they look for? Approach? A body type? An intelligence about the game?
It’s really pretty interesting to think about.
Erica in NY January 24th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
GreenBeret7 January 24th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
I’d say to add Erica and Erin to the pitching staff, but, I doubt that Bud will allow them to wear their Bert And Ernie t-shirts, hats and mittens in the games.
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I throw like a girl
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You only need to look and run like a girl.
Doreen January 24th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
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Vanna has the legs. Alas, I am height-challenged.
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Bobby Shantz was only 5’5″ and won over a 120 games. We’ll just call you “Bobbi Shantz” so your neighbors don’t bug you for autographs. Sort of like the Ray Milland character in “It Happens Every Spring”.
Lounge Lizard……That is exactly what Napoli offers, and contrary to Face’s defensive stand with all his kind stats, anyone who watches Napoli behind the plate will agree that he’s on the hackish side and sliding quickly to becoming a full pledge hack…..Can’t tell you many times he drops balls , misplayed throws that advance runners, and a wealth of mental miscues…….Sorry face he’s a backup at best and he’s terrible at 1st base……Yes the Angels payed to rid themselves of both he and Rivera……That’s what wealthy clubs can do…….
ha ha GB Erin would be waaayyyy to distracted by Robbie
Betsy
I agree w/ what you are saying about Cutler. At least his team mates, who would know better than anyone, have stood up for him.
I’ll take the pop. I’m a skeptic of the plate approach where a walk is best case scenario and traded for high strikeouts and few XBH.
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First of all, comparing 09 to 2010, they got the same number of hits, but Gardner walked an extra 36 times. Thats 36 innings where the Yankees had another chance to hit and an out wasn’t put on the board.
Gardner has insane plate discipline and contact skills. Consider this: Gardner strikes out looking 40% of his strike outs. Melky 20%. Why do we want players swinging at bad strikes? And additionally, Gardner had 150+ balls called strikes last year according to pitchfx.
And of course you completely discount the 47 stolen bases. Thats 37 more extra bases you can add to his total. The difference in their slugging is almost purely in the HRs melky hit. And of course he only hit 4 last year. Gardner hit 8 less doubles, 6 more triples and 8 less HRs. So lets cancel out the doubles with the triples. Its a difference of 8 HRs. So you’re talking about 8 guaranteed runs over 36 outs.
GreenBeret7 January 24th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
I throw like a girl
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You only need to look and run like a girl.
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well, then we are fine.
I am done with this accounting nonsense and ready for just about anything else.
upstate kate January 24th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
ha ha GB Erin would be waaayyyy to distracted by Robbie
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I’d be more concerned about her distracting Robbie. Have you ever noticed that when she goes to games, Robbie has his worst days? She’s gotta stop yelling “Woooo-Hoooo, Robbie…over here, Babycakes.” whenever he bats.
Jim McMahon set the standard for which all Bear QB’s will be measured by……Joe Namath played in 1970 in the rematch vs The Colts with a fractured left wrist….Jay has to make a statement as to why he bailed otherwise he’s toast in Chicago……He’s getting raked because he’s not the most liked guy in the NFL……
Kate, I would never ever accuse anyone of having dog in him because for an athlete, that’s the worst thing you can say. Jay has taken a beating this year – he already suffered a concussion after being sacked like 7 times against the Giants. People love to accuse people of dogging it – like JR Richard. We know how that turned out.
That is exactly what Napoli offers, and contrary to Face’s defensive stand with all his kind stats, anyone who watches Napoli behind the plate will agree that he’s on the hackish side and sliding quickly to becoming a full pledge hack…..Can’t tell you many times he drops balls , misplayed throws that advance runners, and a wealth of mental miscues
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Runners moving up are counted in errors and passed balls. And sorry, but Mathis is just as bad so who cares how bad napoli is. The alternative is WORSE.
Mathis 553 innings: 7 errors 6 PB 39 WP 20% CS
Napoli 525 innings: 6 errors 5 PB 30 WP 27% CS
These are not advanced stats, these are things that are on the back of the baseball card.
tell me how there can be such a huge discrepancy??? Is mathis doing something that isn’t showing up in the scorecard? Because if a runner advances due to an error or passed ball or wild pitch, its counted. There aren’t any hidden advances here.
Mathis is a career: .199 .265 .311 .576
Napoli is a major league hitter.
Face……Here’s my very limited take on this….You”re not going to get a chance to see how poor of a receiver Napoli is simply because Toronto is ( a ) not going to but him behind the plate all that much and ( b ) he’s an investment chip ( along with Rivera ) that will be moved to a club in July who is seeking a right handed stick down the stretch…..It’s a great move for Toronto, they move Vernon’s salary and they’ll get a nice return for Napoli and Rivera down the road….Quite brilliant, Billy Beane would be proud…..
You”re not going to get a chance to see how poor of a receiver Napoli is simply because Toronto is ( a ) not going to but him behind the plate all that much and ( b ) he’s an investment chip ( along with Rivera ) that will be moved to a club in July who is seeking a right handed stick down the stretch
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They will probably get a very nice return on Napoli because he is a right handed bat capable of bringing a .900 OPS vs LHP, but we need to sort out your view on Mathis catching. You seem to think the Angels have upgraded at that position by maintaining Mathis behind the plate. What is being obscured by the stats that makes Mathis an upgrade over Napoli?
A sprained MCL is not a serious injury. In fact, it’s a one week injury and does not require surgery.
Philip Rivers played the entire AFC Championship Game a few years ago with a torn ACL. A much more serious injury than Cutler’s injury.
Jim McMahon repeatedly played with broken bones.
Tom Brady played the last six weeks of this season with a fractured foot that required surgery.
Big Ben is currently playing with a broken nose AND a broken bone in his foot.
That’s an injury players in the league play with all the time.
When your QB doesn’t gut that injury out in a championship game, people are going to question it.
Face, I was told that The Angels are indeed getting dough back from Toronto in the tune of 3.5 million per season to offset Vernon’s contract….Then you extract the 10 million that is the combined salary for Rivera and Napoli and that’s another 2.5 per season and now you have Wells at a very reasonable 17-18 million per season to start his tenure in Orange County……Give or take….Napoli is a very one dimensional player as he is less than desirable defensively, very below average vs. right hand pitching so you can see he had very little value for the Angels at 6 million…….Jeff Mathis is not the best option right now but overall they feel he’s a much better option than Napoli and I agree….Rivera is the same player….Remember the Angels placed him on waivers last July and the return for him was not so rewarding at that time if I recall……Bottom line, the Angel ballclub is improved by this trade…….Time will tell by Memorial Day and or the AS break…..
We could upgrade the Angels catching situation by sending them Austin Romine…..for a small fee.
It’s not a 1 week injury – Cutler would have been questionable for the Super Bowl. This is going to require 3-4 weeks of rehab – but you want to try and risk his knee? It’s an argument that can go around and around and people will never agree…….but I was glad to hear some come out in defense of Jay. It’s ridiculous, IMO, to judge a player by how other players are able to tolerate pain anyway. I could go back and ask why Swisher didn’t play when he had a problem with his biceps or why Mo didn’t pitch through (those days he sat) his rib problems. The players don’t like Cutler and so they piled on him……so be it. Maurice Jones Drew? I think he’s the same guy that sat out a couple of games at the end of the season ( a couple of years ago, I think) when his team was fighting to make the playoffs. Warren Sapp had some great comments today, so did Ditka, Boomer Esiason, etc…………
was told that The Angels are indeed getting dough back from Toronto in the tune of 3.5 million per season to offset Vernon’s contract
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I was told $5 mil total or zero. Where is your number from? Also Why do you agree that Mathis is a much better option than Napoli. I posted his catcher stats. Explain in more detail.
He is worse in every facet of the game. He strikes out once every 4 times at bat. Just like Napoli.
They had a conference call the night the trade was made official.
Reagins and AA both said there was no money being sent to LA.
Rothlisberger? He’s a guy I have little regard for given what his off-field activities have been…………Yep, he’s a real man.
The only franchise that will take Cutler now is the Angels.
The strangest thing about Wells the past 2 season is how much he has struggled vs LHP.
10: .195 AVG .643 OPS
09: .206 AVG .602 OPS
He has basically been a platoon player, but against LHP.
Do you know what “questionable” means on an NFL injury report? It means he has an 80% chance of playing.
NFL injury reports are broken down into four categories in order of severity:
1. “Out”, meaning the player is not going to play.
2. “Doubtful”, meaning it’s unlikely the player will play.
3. “Questionable”, meaning it’s likely the player will play.
4. “Probable”, which means it’s very likely the player will play.
To put it in perspective, Tom Brady was listed as “Questionable” on the Patriots injury report the last 8 weeks of the season with a broken foot and played every week.
There were guys playing yesterday with sprained MCL’s. It’s a common football injury.
Every guy has different thresholds of pain.
However, when you consider they could brace and shoot up the knee, which is done all the time (that’s a separate issue), it’s not good that he didn’t give it more of an effort to play.
That’s the biggest complaint from many present and former players today.
SJ, I guess it’s not in me to question a guy’s toughness or desire…….I’ve never done it, in any sport, and I won’t do it now. My biggest question is whether he’s good enough. The Bears can win with him, but he’s just too inconsistent………..
It’s always a slippery slope to question a players desire or threshold of pain.
I have several former NFL players and a Hall of Fame coach that work for me.
All of them were surprised he didn’t try harder to play.
I asked them today, knowing the diagnosis, if they want to change their opinion. They all said no.
I thought that was fascinating.
Where is Kei Igawa on this list? Is he someone that you assume cannot be taken off of the 40 man roster.