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Cashman: “It wasn’t a declaration of any kind”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 25, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

For better and worse, Brian Cashman is generally a candid speaker when he’s in a relaxed environment. He puts up his shields when he has to, but when there’s an easy back and forth, he’s more willing than most general managers to go along with it and speak his mind.

That’s what he did today, and it became a story that Cashman never expected until his phone started ringing off the hook with reporters asking about Derek Jeter moving to the outfield. Step-by-step, here’s how Cashman described this morning’s Jeter discussion at a WFAN breakfast/Q&A.

1. A fan asked whether Jeter would remain at shortstop. Cashman said right now there are no plans to move him away from the position.

2. Mike Francesa, serving a kind of host for the event, brought up his idea that Jeter could eventually move to third base and Alex Rodriguez could move to designated hitter.

3. Cashman, rolling with Francesa’s hypothetical, said that he prefers more power in the corners and said that — given Jeter’s athleticism and offensive style — a move to the outfield would be more likely.

That was the back-and-forth. Cashman was willing to go along with the hypothetical situation of Jeter leaving the shortstop position, and guessed that a move to the outfield would be more likely than a move to third base. It’s interesting and it’s newsworthy, but there’s no indication that the Yankees are planning or preparing for such a change.

“It wasn’t a declaration of any kind,” Cashman said.

To me, the more interesting news coming out of Cashman’s breakfast was his acknowledgment that Joba Chamberlain has not been the same since injuring his shoulder in Texas back in 2008. I don’t remember the Yankees acknowledging the impact of that injury, but Cashman said he’s said all of this in the past.

“That’s not the first time,” Cashman said. “… (Chamberlain) hasn’t been since that episode in Texas. I still think he has a chance to be an exceptional pitcher. It’s just not the same physicality he had prior to that.”

In particular, Cashman pointed out the diminished velocity, which used to reach into the high 90s whether Chamberlain was working as a starter or as a reliever. The velocity was higher as a reliever, certainly, but it was still up there as a starter, much more so than it has been since the injury.

“I don’t think that equipment necessarily exists now,” Cashman said.

As Rob Neyer pointed out on ESPN, it could be that Chamberlain is just another in a long line of pitchers who couldn’t quite hold up to throwing 100 pitches every five days. Chamberlain had been pitching professionally less than two years when that injury occurred, and he’s currently been in the organization only four years. It’s not especially unusual to discover things like this in a pitcher’s first four years in organized ball. The difference for Chamberlain is that the discovery came at the big league level, in the spotlight of Yankee Stadium.

A few other notes from my conversation with Cashman.

• The open competition at catcher is for the backup job, not the starting job. “Russell Martin is our everyday guy,” Cashman said.

• The Yankees obviously could still use a starter, and there are still some risk-reward starters on the free agent market. The fact the Yankees have not yet signed any of them, Cashman said, does not mean they won’t eventually sign one of them. “I wouldn’t say I’m out,” Cashman said.

• When the Andruw Jones signing becomes official, the Yankees will have their fourth outfielder. They already have internal candidates for the utility infield role and the backup catcher role. That leaves one bench job open, either for an in-house candidate or a free agent. “We’re never finished,” Cashman said. “We’re always open to doing things.”

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258 Responses to “Cashman: “It wasn’t a declaration of any kind””

  1. LGY January 25th, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    Nick

    I checked my sources. Conflicting on the toast. But mysteryinterpretation now in play, no question.

  2. Chip January 25th, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    Mike Napoli on the move again.

    Toronto is shipping him to the Rangers for Frank Francisco.

    Deal makes very little sense to me since the Rangers signed Yorvit Torrealba, have Michael Young at DH and Mitch Moreland/Michael Young at 1b – but whatever floats their boat.

    Jays pen now looks very strong with Francisco and Dotel setting up Rauch.

  3. Bronx Jeers January 25th, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    So does this mean I should hold off on my ” Torre* for GM ! ” banner ?

    *or whoever

  4. Crawdaddy January 25th, 2011 at 3:34 pm

    Interesting Cashman comments now. He talked to Pettitte last night.

  5. Erin January 25th, 2011 at 3:34 pm

    The open competition at catcher is for the backup job, not the starting job. ?Russell Martin is our everyday guy,? Cashman said

    ****************************
    I figured that was what he meant.

  6. SJ44 January 25th, 2011 at 3:35 pm

    “Russell Martin is our everyday guy”.

    Seems pretty clear to me.

    Perhaps folks should take a deep breath and look for the entire context of comments instead of taking bits and pieces and drawing an incorrect narrative.

  7. PacoDooley January 25th, 2011 at 3:35 pm

    Chamberlin is evidence that the team should have sold high. He was the guy that could not be traded, even for an established veteran pitcher – now he is a middle reliever with a bum shoulder.

  8. Chip January 25th, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    The Yankees obviously could still use a starter, and there are still some risk-reward starters on the free agent market. The fact the Yankees have not yet signed any of them, Cashman said, does not mean they won’t eventually sign one of them. “I wouldn’t say I’m out,” Cashman said
    —————–

    No reason to rush – the same guys are out there now that were out there earlier this month – teams aren’t exactly falling all over themselves to sign Garcia, Millwood, Bonderman or Duchscherer

  9. Pat M. January 25th, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    Jerkface….ARE YOU OUT THERE fACE ????/

  10. West Coast Yankee Fan January 25th, 2011 at 3:38 pm

    Cashman alludes to Warren and Phelps ‘possibly’ competing for the fifth spot.

  11. Mell January 25th, 2011 at 3:39 pm

    “Jerkface….ARE YOU OUT THERE fACE ????/”

    He’s on the phone with Kay.

  12. Mell January 25th, 2011 at 3:42 pm

    qERA? Interesting. Cashman leaving no doubt Joba will be in the pen, and he seems very happy about it.

  13. Mell January 25th, 2011 at 3:44 pm

    Or maybe Cashman’s on the phone w/ Jerkface?

    Kay doesn’t shy away from beating him up on his Soriano statements.

  14. West Coast Yankee Fan January 25th, 2011 at 3:45 pm

    Don’t know why the link repeated sorry.

  15. Carl January 25th, 2011 at 3:46 pm

    Cashmoney can talk all day

  16. West Coast Yankee Fan January 25th, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    SJ44 January 25th, 2011 at 3:35 pm

    “Russell Martin is our everyday guy”. Seems pretty clear to me. Perhaps folks should take a deep breath and look for the entire context of comments instead of taking bits and pieces and drawing an incorrect narrative.

    ***************************

    Girardi and Cashman could not have been more clear. Mark Feinsand sure agrees starting the article this way.

    “Forget about a catching controversy: Russell Martin is the starter”.

    ” Cashman and Joe Girardi said that as long as Martin – who turns 28 in February – is healthy, he’ll be the Yankees’ primary backstop”.

    “As long as he’s healthy, Russell Martin is going to be our everyday catcher,” Cashman said.

    “Girardi indicated that both Montero and Austin Romine would have an opportunity this spring to push Francisco Cervelli for the backup job”.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....z1C58h7s5h

  17. Crawdaddy January 25th, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    You’re right, Cashman can talk all day.

  18. Against All Odds January 25th, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    # Mell January 25th, 2011 at 3:42 pm

    qERA? Interesting. Cashman leaving no doubt Joba will be in the pen, and he seems very happy about it.

    ————————

    Of course he no longer has to answer questions about it.

  19. Erica in NY January 25th, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    Hmmm- Where do you pencil Martin in GTLU??

  20. Nick in SF January 25th, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    Clearly the French Toast has been well digested and Cashman no longer wants to get fired this afternoon. No question.

  21. Erica in NY January 25th, 2011 at 3:50 pm

    Crawdaddy January 25th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
    You’re right, Cashman can talk all day.

    *************

    I can talk all day too.

    I just don’t have quite the same audience………….

  22. Erica in NY January 25th, 2011 at 3:50 pm

    Nick in SF January 25th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
    Clearly the French Toast has been well digested and Cashman no longer wants to get fired this afternoon. No question.

    ***************

    Are you implying the french toast was spiked?

  23. Chip January 25th, 2011 at 3:50 pm

    If nothing else Brian has spiced up what would otherwise have been a very boring sport’s Tuesday.

  24. Tyler January 25th, 2011 at 3:51 pm

    Where do we pencil in Johnny Damon in GTLU??

    Oh wait, He’s not a Yankee.

  25. West Coast Yankee Fan January 25th, 2011 at 3:51 pm

    New respect for Michael Kay; asking tough questions. Good interview.

  26. Chip January 25th, 2011 at 3:51 pm

    Erica in NY January 25th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
    Hmmm- Where do you pencil Martin in GTLU??

    ———————

    Jeter
    Martin
    Tex
    Alex
    Cano
    Swisher
    Posada
    Grandy
    Gardy

  27. NYY626 - Andy in 2011 January 25th, 2011 at 3:51 pm

    hmm apparently Kay went off on Andy? Thats shocking considering his huge man crush on him. I think Michael is just very upset… :)

  28. West Coast Yankee Fan January 25th, 2011 at 3:51 pm

    Cashman:

    “I had coffee and a danish”.

  29. Chip January 25th, 2011 at 3:52 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan January 25th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
    New respect for Michael Kay; asking tough questions. Good interview.

    —————-

    You’ll lose that respect when after the interview he switches back into whiney voice while talking over the answers.

  30. lounge lizard January 25th, 2011 at 3:52 pm

    ?I like corner outfielders and corner infielders who have power”

    Memo to Brian: it doesn’t do any good to have the (correct) recognition, in theory, of the value of power from corner OF if you do not, in practice, act upon in it. Like, say, making a push for Matt Holliday.

  31. Patrick January 25th, 2011 at 3:52 pm

    More like

    Gardner
    Swisher
    Teixeira
    Rodriguez
    Cano
    Posada
    Granderson
    Martin
    Jeter

  32. Crawdaddy January 25th, 2011 at 3:52 pm

    This was a great interview with Cashman with some tough questions by Kay.

  33. upstate kate January 25th, 2011 at 3:53 pm

    perhaps Cash has had a mess of bacon, which we all know is nature’s caffeine…or so I’ve heard

  34. Erica in NY January 25th, 2011 at 3:53 pm

    Tyler January 25th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
    Where do we pencil in Johnny Damon in GTLU??

    Oh wait, He’s not a Yankee.

    *****************

    I don’t really know you very well Tyler but…..

    HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

  35. tyanksfan36 January 25th, 2011 at 3:53 pm

    Erica in NY says:

    January 25, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    Hmmm- Where do you pencil Martin in GTLU??

    Maybe it depends on either RHP or LHP that day like they were doing last year. I think the first GTLU will be interesting.

  36. SJ44 January 25th, 2011 at 3:54 pm

    Cash man is tearing the Bill Madden story to shreds.

    Madden has never forgiven Cashman for cutting off his access to George several years ago.

    It’s why anything Madden writes about Cashman needs to be taken in context.

  37. Erica in NY January 25th, 2011 at 3:54 pm

    tyanksfan36 January 25th, 2011 at 3:53 pm

    Maybe it depends on either RHP or LHP that day like they were doing last year. I think the first GTLU will be interesting.

    ************

    By the end of spring training usually there is a pattern

  38. Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 3:55 pm

    Thank you Chad.

    Thanks for the context and the perspective.

  39. West Coast Yankee Fan January 25th, 2011 at 3:55 pm

    Chip January 25th, 2011 at 3:52 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan January 25th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
    New respect for Michael Kay; asking tough questions. Good interview.
    —————-
    You’ll lose that respect when after the interview he switches back into whiney voice while talking over the answers.

    *********

    LOL. You nailed me. But seriously, he didn’t pull any punches and asked tough direct questions. Cashman took the ages old tried and true tact of saying so many words in a monotone that the listener glazes over and tunes out.

  40. Crawdaddy January 25th, 2011 at 3:56 pm

    Let’s not forget that Madden and the Daily News had a very public disagreement with Cashman when he signed his contract extension in November, 2008. They accused Cashman of being very defensive. Columns were written by Madden, Harper and Lupica.

  41. Mell January 25th, 2011 at 3:57 pm

    “Cashman took the ages old tried and true tact of saying so many words in a monotone that the listener glazes over and tunes out”

    His Pettitte answer was weak, but beyond that I thought his responses were pretty good.

  42. Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 3:58 pm

    SJ44 January 25th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
    “Russell Martin is our everyday guy”.

    Seems pretty clear to me.

    Perhaps folks should take a deep breath and look for the entire context of comments instead of taking bits and pieces and drawing an incorrect narrative.

    ***

    SJ44 -

    My feelings exactly. The problem is that there are many here who are salivating at even the hint of a notion that Cashman may be prematurely on his way out.

    I have no idea myself, but have felt that his current contract was going to be his last as soon as he signed it, without regard to what transpired during the tenure.

    But, the man is kind enough to do these informal talks, knowing full well the scavengers who lie in wait, and people misconstrue things to fit their own agendas.

  43. SJ44 January 25th, 2011 at 3:58 pm

    He actually didn’t do anything of the sort.

    He answered all of the questions, especially his job status, open and honestly.

    In fact, he probably answered that question in more detail than he has ever answered that question.

  44. Joe from Long Island January 25th, 2011 at 3:58 pm

    SJ – so much for objective journalism.

  45. Erin January 25th, 2011 at 3:59 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan January 25th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
    Cashman:

    ?I had coffee and a danish?.

    *************************
    That’s my kind of breakfast. ;)

  46. Pat M. January 25th, 2011 at 3:59 pm

    Was this Kay interview previously scheduled , or an impromptu event to control some perceived damage ??/

  47. Tom in N.J. January 25th, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    What did Cash say about his job status?

  48. saucY January 25th, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    “Hmmm- Where do you pencil Martin in GTLU??”

    =-=-=-=-=-=-
    i’d guess 8th.

    Kay was upset with Cashman re: Soriano?

  49. Chip January 25th, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    Patrick January 25th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
    More like

    Gardner
    Swisher
    Teixeira
    Rodriguez
    Cano
    Posada
    Granderson
    Martin
    Jeter

    ——————-

    You can’t seriously think that will ever happen right?

  50. Erin January 25th, 2011 at 4:01 pm

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  51. Chip January 25th, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    SJ44 January 25th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
    Cash man is tearing the Bill Madden story to shreds.

    Madden has never forgiven Cashman for cutting off his access to George several years ago.

    It’s why anything Madden writes about Cashman needs to be taken in context.

    ——————–

    Anything anyone writes needs to be taken in context.

  52. rodg12 January 25th, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    Can somebody give a recap of the Kay interview for people like me that can’t/couldn’t listen to it?

  53. Mell January 25th, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    “Kay was upset with Cashman re: Soriano?”

    He called him out for saying he was against the deal while at Soriano’s presser. Cashman’s response was quite good.

  54. Nick in SF January 25th, 2011 at 4:03 pm

    Dare not question Madden ye mere lowly bloggers, for he is a member of is enshrined in was inducted into is somehow linked with the Hall of Fame.

  55. Mell January 25th, 2011 at 4:03 pm

    “Hmmm- Where do you pencil Martin in GTLU??”

    8 or 9.

  56. SJ44 January 25th, 2011 at 4:03 pm

    Doreen,

    Too many people on blogs parse quotes without context to fit whatever agenda they have for a given day.

    When I talk to players and management people, it’s their biggest complaint about the blogosphere.

    Not the passion people have. They know that helps pay the bills.

    It’s how incorrect info can go viral so quickly and how that info becomes “fact”.

    We see examples of that today on this blog.

    It’s also why so many players today are resorting to their own websites and Twitter accounts to have their voices correctly quoted.

  57. West Coast Yankee Fan January 25th, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    Joe from Long Island January 25th, 2011 at 3:58 pm

    SJ – so much for objective journalism.

    ***********

    Madden’s piece was editorial in nature, he did not say he was reporting. He clearly stated this in the article.

    “This is why I’m beginning to think….”, “I believe that Cashman….”

    One doesn’t have to agree with his opinion, but that is what an editorial does and is supposed to do. It’s just the writer’s opinion.

  58. Chip January 25th, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    The thing you have to remember about Kay is that he has to have two very different personalities for his two different jobs.

    You will never on YES hear him talk about the Yankees as he does on ESPN because the YES suits wouldn’t put up with it.

    My guess is that in a couple of years YES and ESPN will turn to Kay and say “one or the other, you can’t do both”

  59. Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 4:05 pm

    Mell -

    What was Cashman’s response to that?

    I can never get Kay’s show on the radio here. :(

  60. Erica in NY January 25th, 2011 at 4:05 pm

    GTLU 2011 Edition

    GGBG LF
    Jeter SS
    Tex 1B
    A-Rod 3B
    Cano 2B
    Posada DH
    Granderson CF
    Swisher RF
    Martin C

  61. Chip January 25th, 2011 at 4:05 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan January 25th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
    Joe from Long Island January 25th, 2011 at 3:58 pm

    SJ – so much for objective journalism.

    ***********

    Madden’s piece was editorial in nature, he did not say he was reporting. He clearly stated this in the article.

    “This is why I’m beginning to think….”, “I believe that Cashman….”

    One doesn’t have to agree with his opinion, but that is what an editorial does and is supposed to do. It’s just the writer’s opinion.

    ——————

    That’s right and it’s well said.

    Madden can opine about any topic he wants – if he were to say “I’ve heard that Cashman is going to do …..” that’s something else entirely.

  62. Fran the original January 25th, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    I thought Cashman was really honest in his interview with Kay. Good interview.

  63. Against All Odds January 25th, 2011 at 4:09 pm

    Kay: If the right deal came along I think the Yankees will move him. Cashman said they are trying to get him on a steal but the Yankees are stupid they aren’t going to let a team just take him.

    Not word for word along the lines of what Kay said

  64. Mell January 25th, 2011 at 4:09 pm

    “What was Cashman’s response to that?”

    Without going into massive detail, he did it to preserve his credibility. He’d been on record about not only not wanting to give closer’s money to an EIG, but also not wanting to give Jenks money ($6M-$7M) for an EIG. For the world to see the Yankees then give Soriano almost $12M to be the EIG makes him look bad, unless he can state for the record he was against it, but overrruled. He said Hal OK’d making his position known at the presser.

  65. Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 4:09 pm

    SJ44 -

    It is what drives me crazy here, too.

    ***

    WCYF -

    While Madden may indeed use the correct terminology in his opinion columns, the reality is that his opinion is then quoted or used as fact. This is not just a problem with Madden and sports writers, but in journalism in general these days. Too much smudging of the line between opinion and fact both by the writers and the reading public.

  66. Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    Thanks, Mell. I appreciate it.

  67. Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 4:12 pm

    Erica -

    Is there going to be GTLU this season?

  68. SJ44 January 25th, 2011 at 4:13 pm

    It was a column that pre-supposed facts that weren’t true.

    He also never talked to Cashman prior to writing the story.

    One would think if you are going to write a story like that, you would look to the subject of the story.

    Especially when you draw an incorrect premise, which Cashman blew to bits today, that he longs to be a small market GM.

    Brian Cashman LOVES being the GM of the Yankees. The Steinbrenner Family also loves him being the GM because they trust him and know he has their best interests at heart.

    Hal is big on trust.

    Meaning that, as long as Cash wants to stay, he has the job.

  69. Bronx Jeers January 25th, 2011 at 4:14 pm

    My guess is that in a couple of years YES and ESPN will turn to Kay and say “one or the other, you can’t do both”

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    I’m hoping his new bride to be beats them to it.

    The ESPN gig is better for the health of the marriage but then again… the glow of being married to Michael Kay probably dims very quickly so she may want him working nights and weekends. :wink:

  70. SJ44 January 25th, 2011 at 4:15 pm

    Look to “talk” to the subject of the story.

    Sorry for the typo.

  71. Chip January 25th, 2011 at 4:15 pm

    SJ44 January 25th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
    Doreen,

    Too many people on blogs parse quotes without context to fit whatever agenda they have for a given day.

    When I talk to players and management people, it’s their biggest complaint about the blogosphere.

    Not the passion people have. They know that helps pay the bills.

    It’s how incorrect info can go viral so quickly and how that info becomes “fact”.

    We see examples of that today on this blog.

    It’s also why so many players today are resorting to their own websites and Twitter accounts to have their voices correctly quoted.

    ———————–

    For example – Pete Abe today tried to parse on Twitter what Cash said about Jeter moving to the OF – making it sound like it was happening this year.

    I get having fun with the Twitter and blogs – but journalists should know better.

  72. G. Love January 25th, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    Did he address saying Boston is better than the Yankees?

    How’d he get out of that one?

  73. Crawdaddy January 25th, 2011 at 4:18 pm

    “How’d he get out of that one?”

    By telling the truth.

  74. Erica in NY January 25th, 2011 at 4:18 pm

    Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
    Erica -

    Is there going to be GTLU this season?

    ****************

    I have no idea. I was just speaking off-handedly.

    I don’t think I can get away with it everyday at work anymore. So I am probably officially retired from my GTLU running. (I won’t Farve you).

    If you want it, (and I know thats a big IF) its all yours :-)

  75. Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    I thought I read Cashman said Boston “looks” better.

    That’s a world of difference to me.

    He also said the Yankees have the better bullpen and they are one starting pitcher away from being a WS contending team.

    Doesn’t seem to me that he is trashing his own team.

    And isn’t it kind of hypocritical to call Cashman on the carpet for saying what we’ve been reading here since the Red Sox traded for AGon and even more so once they signed Crawford?

  76. Against All Odds January 25th, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    G. Love January 25th, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    Did he address saying Boston is better than the Yankees?

    How’d he get out of that one

    ——————————-

    “Obvisously it’s a process….

    He went around in circles for about ten minutes after saying the word process jk

  77. Niblick January 25th, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    Cashman seems to be re-writing history, again.

    He has apparently forgotten the good September that Joba had in 2008. Somehow he had the “equipment” then.

  78. YankeesNmore January 25th, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    Bye bye, Brian Cashman.

    You will not be missed.

    Can’t happen soon enough.

  79. Chip January 25th, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    G. Love January 25th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
    Did he address saying Boston is better than the Yankees?

    How’d he get out of that one?

    ———————-

    I don’t think any right minded individual would argue with that stance right now.

    Say what you want about the back of Boston’s rotation – it’s still better than Sergio Mitre and Ivan Nova.

  80. Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 4:22 pm

    Okay Erica.

    I’m still not decided.

    In all honesty, there were dedicated GTLU-ers, but there weren’t a lot of entries on any given day, and I was sensing that the novelty had worn out. So I’m open to opinion on GTLU. Perhaps on a limited basis.

  81. LGY January 25th, 2011 at 4:22 pm

    Boston IS better on paper than the Yankees right now.

    What do people want Cashman to lie?

    I can see all the comments on this boog about Cashman bring delusional if he said the Yankees were better.

    He is in a now win position with the people on this blog on hang on and obsess over his every word.

  82. Ed H. January 25th, 2011 at 4:22 pm

    All of today’s fervent analysis of Cashman’s every word is just warm up for tonight’s State of the Union speech.

  83. Tom in N.J. January 25th, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    I have an odd feeling that some of the folks who are after Cashman for that Boston quote would be after him if he said the Yankees were the better team.

  84. Chip January 25th, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    Hypothetical question:

    If you were Michael Kay and had to pick between ESPN or YES which would you choose?

    I guess for me it would depend if my ESPN deal allowed me to call baseball games for the World Wide Leader.

    It wouldn’t be the same as covering the Yankees day in and day out but I’m not sure what YES could offer me that would keep me from being bored November through March.

  85. Against All Odds January 25th, 2011 at 4:25 pm

    # Niblick January 25th, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    Cashman seems to be re-writing history, again.

    He has apparently forgotten the good September that Joba had in 2008. Somehow he had the “equipment” then.

    ———————————————-

    Logic doesn’t make sense don’t do that. I think he may be overvaluing Joba.

  86. Chip January 25th, 2011 at 4:25 pm

    Tom in N.J. January 25th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
    I have an odd feeling that some of the folks who are after Cashman for that Boston quote would be after him if he said the Yankees were the better team.

    ——————–

    There are some people who would be after Cashman if he said that the sky was blue and fire was hot.

  87. rodg12 January 25th, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    # Chip January 25th, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    Hypothetical question:

    If you were Michael Kay and had to pick between ESPN or YES which would you choose?

    I guess for me it would depend if my ESPN deal allowed me to call baseball games for the World Wide Leader.

    It wouldn’t be the same as covering the Yankees day in and day out but I’m not sure what YES could offer me that would keep me from being bored November through March.
    ———————————————-
    I think Kay chooses the Yanks. From everything I’ve ever heard about him, that’s his dream job. If I was in his position, I would do the same thing.

  88. Erica in NY January 25th, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    Doreen-

    Its your call. If you decided to continue, I would be happy to fill-in on an “as needed” basis, I just really can’t do it every day. If you don’t want to continue it- I definitely understand and I am sure the rest of the blog would too. I know its a lot of work.

    (There is always the option to just do it 4 days a week or so).

  89. Bronx Jeers January 25th, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    Did he address saying Boston is better than the Yankees?

    ———————————————————————————-

    Never said it.

    Said that “Austin” was better than New York. Thought the question was about the live music scene.

  90. Against All Odds January 25th, 2011 at 4:29 pm

    @ Chip ESPN because of the avenues it opens up. Colin Cowherd is working with CBS to develop a sitcom.

  91. upstate kate January 25th, 2011 at 4:30 pm

    I say YES to GTLU :)

  92. LGY January 25th, 2011 at 4:31 pm

    The Boston quote was actually not complete.

    He actually said, “Boston looks better. Atta Baby!!”

  93. SJ44 January 25th, 2011 at 4:32 pm

    Too bad he’s not leaving.

    Cashman will be back next year with a new contract and you will have another three years to write the same useless drivel everyday.

  94. Erin January 25th, 2011 at 4:32 pm

    Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 4:22 pm

    So I?m open to opinion on GTLU.

    *****************************
    I vote yes. :)

  95. G. Love January 25th, 2011 at 4:32 pm

    The point is he shouldn’t be saying either team is the better team.

    How about, “hopefully we’ll be the last one standing at the end of the season” when asked which team is better. There’s a hundred different things he could have said when asked that question.

    It’s not like he’s some media rookie. He made the news with his comments today, not the media.

    And I still would not have even hypothesized about Jeter moving to the OF in a public setting. It’s out there now and can’t be taken back. As soon as Jeter has a few bad games in the field Joe will get peppered with “any thoughts of moving Jeter from SS” questions.

    Up until today we had never ever heard a Yankee official mention Jeter as an OF’er.

  96. Erica in NY January 25th, 2011 at 4:32 pm

    upstate kate January 25th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
    I say YES to GTLU

    ***************

    Hahahahaha… shocker

  97. Erin January 25th, 2011 at 4:33 pm

    Against All Odds January 25th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
    @ Chip ESPN because of the avenues it opens up. Colin Cowherd is working with CBS to develop a sitcom

    *******************************

    :lol:

    I can just imagine Kay developing a sitcom.

  98. Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 4:35 pm

    Erica -

    I was thinking 4 days, maybe, too.

    Because you know, it’s the same amount of work whether 10 people play or 30-plus people play.

    The other option is to limit the “window” so I don’t have to sit here all afternoon waiting for submissions. The other thing I end up waiting for is the lineup – which doesn’t come out the same exact time every day, and I keep refreshing twitter for like an hour waiting for the first lineup to be put up.

    I guess I’ll have to start thinking about it. But, just FYI, I’m going to be on vacation from April 2 to April 9th!

  99. Chip January 25th, 2011 at 4:35 pm

    G. Love January 25th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
    The point is he shouldn’t be saying either team is the better team.

    How about, “hopefully we’ll be the last one standing at the end of the season” when asked which team is better. There’s a hundred different things he could have said when asked that question.

    It’s not like he’s some media rookie. He made the news with his comments today, not the media.

    And I still would not have even hypothesized about Jeter moving to the OF in a public setting. It’s out there now and can’t be taken back. As soon as Jeter has a few bad games in the field Joe will get peppered with “any thoughts of moving Jeter from SS” questions.

    Up until today we had never ever heard a Yankee official mention Jeter as an OF’er.

    ——————

    It’s a charity breakfast – you gotta give the fans who paid to sit there a bone and he did. He gave everyone something to talk about for a day.

    They’re all non-stories. It’s not like he said that the Yankees are in secret talks with the agent for Yu Darvish to ensure that he’s a Bomber in 2012.

  100. Against All Odds January 25th, 2011 at 4:37 pm

    # Erin January 25th, 2011 at 4:33 pm

    Against All Odds January 25th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
    @ Chip ESPN because of the avenues it opens up. Colin Cowherd is working with CBS to develop a sitcom

    *******************************

    :lol:

    I can just imagine Kay developing a sitcom.

    —————————————————

    Not a pretty sight that’s for sure ROTFL. He’ll spend half of the show stating how much he despises condiments

  101. Erica in NY January 25th, 2011 at 4:38 pm

    Doreen-

    1) I just e-mailed you

    2) I always thought you were far too kind with the submission window. Its unfair for you to sit at your computer all day for Yankee line ups. When i ran it, I kept the window to a strict 90 minutes

    3) I would relieve you while you are on vacation, but that is during the final week of busy season when we are in crazy crunch times. Its out of the question for me. :-(

  102. Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 4:38 pm

    Well, I could have guessed that upstate kate, Erin and Erica would vote YES for GTLU!

    :lol: :lol: :lol:

    ***

    There’s going to be questions about Jeter moving to the outfield for the next 3 years regardless. There are always going to be those types of questions. It’s New York.

  103. SJ44 January 25th, 2011 at 4:38 pm

    I don’t see this stuff as a big deal.

    Plus, let Boston have the “favorites” mantle to start the season.

    It’s like a football coach waxing poetic about his opponent wondering, “how can we beat these guys”.

    In the end, it’s meaningless.

  104. G. Love January 25th, 2011 at 4:38 pm

    My last point on this is he went to great lengths during the Jeter negotiations to say “he’s our SS”. Little over a month later he’s envisioning a scenario where he’s an OF’er in public.

    It was a dumb thing to say no matter who the audience was.

    He’s allowed to say dumb things, but he’s been on quite a roll lately.

  105. Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 4:41 pm

    Erica -

    I always figured I was here anyway. And once I was generous I had to stay generous. No going back.

    I wasn’t hinting that you should take over for me for that week, just meant to say that isn’t it just the way of the world that I won’t be around for the first week of the season??? :)

    I will be around for opening day, though. And maybe we just won’t have GTLU while I’m away. No big deal.

  106. Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 4:42 pm

    G. Love -

    From what I understand, HE wasn’t envisioning it. He was going with the flow of the conversation. You think Jeter hasn’t heard this stuff before?

  107. 108 stitches January 25th, 2011 at 4:44 pm

    I’m convinced that there’s more than the Chamberlain physical / weight issues than Cashman cares to discuss.
    There was a lot to discuss today and Cashman soft peddled anything Joba.
    Since he went to the bullpen, nothing has ever been said or written that he ever approached Mariano about repetition of his pitching mechanics which might have been a forward step in his career.

  108. Erica in NY January 25th, 2011 at 4:44 pm

    Doreen-

    Thats fine by me (like you need my permission). Its your show, so if you cancel it for a few games, everyone would survive.

  109. G. Love January 25th, 2011 at 4:44 pm

    SJ,

    It is meaningless but it’s also an indictment of the job he’s done that he himself doesn’t think he has the best team going into the season right now.

    I hope the Red Sox get picked unilaterally to win the World Series this year. It will make it sweeter when they don’t.

    That said, I don’t think our GM, who still has work to do on his team and hasn’t had the greatest off season, should be calling attention to this.

    This team was not prepared for what would happen should they miss on Lee and Andy didn’t come back. That much is clear.

    They’re still not prepared for it.

    You know the guys in the front office better than anyone does. You don’t think the Steinbrothers would be bothered about what was parsed from today’s breakfast? Be honest.

  110. Fran the original January 25th, 2011 at 4:45 pm

    Doreen, don’t forget me. YES to GTLU :)

  111. Chip January 25th, 2011 at 4:46 pm

    108 stitches January 25th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
    I’m convinced that there’s more than the Chamberlain physical / weight issues than Cashman cares to discuss.
    There was a lot to discuss today and Cashman soft peddled anything Joba.
    Since he went to the bullpen, nothing has ever been said or written that he ever approached Mariano about repetition of his pitching mechanics which might have been a forward step in his career.

    ——————-

    When you hear hoofbeats think horses not zebras.

    Cashman gave a perfectly reasonable answer as to why Joba’s a reliever not a starter – I think at this point trying to read too much more into the situation is fruitless.

  112. G. Love January 25th, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    Doreen,

    I don’t know what Jeter has heard. I just know no one who worked for the team ever mentioned him as a possible OF’er before, unless I’m wrong.

    Whether he was at a breakfast or a barber shop, what he says in regards to the team is always going to be news.

  113. hardwired7 January 25th, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    Maybe Cashman should just start spouting non sequiturs instead of giving answers, since he really can’t win anyway.

    Reporter: “Brian, any idea when your might hear from Pettitte?”
    Cashman: “I always buy extra large eggs. I feel like I’m getting more egg for my buck.”

  114. Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    Fran -

    Of course!

  115. Erin January 25th, 2011 at 4:49 pm

    hardwired7 January 25th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
    Maybe Cashman should just start spouting non sequiturs instead of giving answers, since he really can?t win anyway.

    Reporter: ?Brian, any idea when your might hear from Pettitte??
    Cashman: ?I always buy extra large eggs. I feel like I?m getting more egg for my buck.?

    **************************************

    :lol:

    I fully support this idea.

  116. Chip January 25th, 2011 at 4:53 pm

    hardwired7 January 25th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
    Maybe Cashman should just start spouting non sequiturs instead of giving answers, since he really can’t win anyway.

    Reporter: “Brian, any idea when your might hear from Pettitte?”
    Cashman: “I always buy extra large eggs. I feel like I’m getting more egg for my buck.”

    ——————–

    “I’m changing my kids’ names to “Prospect” so I can be a true prospect hugger”

  117. Tom in N.J. January 25th, 2011 at 4:54 pm

    This shirt is “dry-clean only”…which means it’s dirty

  118. Bronx Jeers January 25th, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    G Love

    I’m not the biggest Cashman supporter in here and I definitely agree that he’s made a lot of mistakes with his tongue this winter.

    But it’s my understanding that the “Jeter to the OF” thing comes with a big “IF” attached to it. As in if Jeter were to change positions it’s Cashmans belief that his skill set translates better to the OF.

    Personally I don’t think it makes much sense because Cash is using his offensive skill set to make the determination. Jeter’s not a slugger and doesn’t fit the typical profile of a third baseman. Sure, offensively he’s a better fit at CF.

    Defensively it makes no sense to me. You might as well keep him at SS.

  119. G. Love January 25th, 2011 at 4:56 pm

    I’m fully behind the non sequitur responses to questions as well as him re-naming his children “Prospect”.

  120. Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 4:56 pm

    I just took a look at the schedule, hoping that the first week of the season would have a few days off so that if I did do GTLU, there wouldn’t be many missed.

    Has anyone seen the Yankees’ schedule for the first couple of weeks? They open on 3/31, have 4/1 off and then play from 4/2 through 4/10 without a day off, including a road trip to Boston.

    The only positive is that it looks like a lot of home games in April for a change.

    The only negative is that I heard the weather in April this year is going to be not so spring-like and there are no days built into the schedule for weather.

  121. SJ44 January 25th, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    Glove,

    Hal ismnot George.

    To Hal, this stuff is the “small stuff” and Hal doesn’t get bogged down with the small stuff like George used to back in the day.

    Plus, Cash readily acknowledges there is still work to do on the roster. He said as much today.

    I think this stuff is just noise. I really do.

    There is no “backup plan”, short of blowing up your entire farm system to overpay in trade for a Greinke that you could have if Lee signed elsewhere.

    It happens and you have to deal with it.

    Andy? I’ll believe he’s not playing when he stops working out.

    Eventually, they will get another pitcher.

    In the meantime, you work with what you have. Which is still pretty good in the case of the Yankees.

  122. Fran the original January 25th, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    Doreen,

    We don’t have to play GTLU every day. Besides, Joe Girardi would probably win anyway ;)

  123. Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 5:03 pm

    Fran -

    I’m going to look at the schedule and try and work some guidelines out so that we can still do GTLU, but probably on a smaller scale. :)

  124. Pat M. January 25th, 2011 at 5:07 pm

    Was this Kay interview a scheduled event before today’s happenings ????

  125. Nick in SF January 25th, 2011 at 5:07 pm

    “I hope the Red Sox get picked unilaterally to win the World Series this year.”

    It only takes one person to make it so.

  126. Fran the original January 25th, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    Doreen, sounds good. Let me know if I can help.

  127. Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    Okay Fran. :)

  128. Patrick January 25th, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    It only takes one person to make it so

    Hahahaha

  129. blake January 25th, 2011 at 5:11 pm

    As I said the other day, if they fired Cashman they could always hire Omar Minaya…..or I think Steve Phillips is available…..

  130. pat January 25th, 2011 at 5:13 pm

    “@ Chip ESPN because of the avenues it opens up. Colin Cowherd is working with CBS to develop a sitcom”

    If it was ESPN connected, he would be developing a sitcom for ABC not CBS.

  131. Patrick January 25th, 2011 at 5:14 pm

    blake,

    Even though I disagree with most of what randy says when it comes to Cashman, I do agree with the idea that there are a lot of people outside of baseball that could do really well as a baseball GM.

    I like Cashman but I wouldn’t be so worried if he called it quits after this year.

  132. Wave Your Hat January 25th, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    The Yankee roller coaster has returned to the boarding area. It was a thrilling ride, but we’re getting off where we got on this morning. We need Andy back, and who knows where things stand with Cashman.

  133. Erica in NY January 25th, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    Fran the original January 25th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
    Doreen,

    We don’t have to play GTLU every day. Besides, Joe Girardi would probably win anyway

    *****************

    Hi Fran :-)

    I feel like I haven’t seen you in ages

  134. blake January 25th, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    Patrick,

    I was joking but its not as easy as you think Id imagine……the Yanks have missed the playoffs once in nearly 2 decades, that’s pretty good.

  135. West Coast Yankee Fan January 25th, 2011 at 5:20 pm

    Cashman’s public handling of the Joba controversy is puzzling to me.

    For the longest time he wouldn’t give a reason adequately explaining his adamant position that Joba would not be a starter. Many Yankee fans surmised that the Yankees must know something that we didn’t, and accepted that; because any public admission of a problem would further reduce his diminishing trade value. OK, that makes some sense.

    Now, inexplicably, Cashman says publicly that Joba has not been the same since his shoulder injury. Why say that now, to what end?

  136. Jerkface January 25th, 2011 at 5:21 pm

    Did Pat M ring?

  137. YankFanCA January 25th, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    Hey Cashman — shut up and build a better club. You’ve done NOTHING to improve the rotation, so it’s little surprise you think Boston the better team.

    I’m really tired of this lawn gnome. His time and come and gone.

  138. Betsy January 25th, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    If the Sox are a better team, then who’s fault is that? Maybe the person who supposedly runs the team?

    Cash’s comments on Jeter were dumb; honesty doesn’t necessarily equate to wisdom. Jeter is under the impression that he’s not moving from SS – that is to say, getting him to willingly move will NOT be easy. So Cash decides to say right out (and tick Jeter off further) by saying he’ll likely wind up his career at another position. Might not it have been better to say nothing before talking to Jeter?

  139. Patrick January 25th, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    blake,

    I disagree. In fact, I think there are a handful of people on this blog alone that could do as well as Cashman or better!

  140. SJ44 January 25th, 2011 at 5:26 pm

    There is no “Joba controversy”.

    There is fan babble about Joba. Cashman has been adamant that he is in the bullpen to stay.

    Fans believe otherwise.

    That does not make a controversy.

    You went on and on earlier on how Cashman “mislead” Russell Martin, which wasn’t the case.

    Now, you are trying to manufacture a controversy that doesn’t exist with, surprise, Cashman at the root of it.

  141. hardwired7 January 25th, 2011 at 5:26 pm

    Cashman’s interview w/Michael Kay:

    http://espn.go.com/espnradio/p.....id=6058343

  142. Betsy January 25th, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    I did think that Cash explained his Soriano comments well. He needed to make it clear to agents, other teams, etc… that his word can still be trusted, that he’s not a guy you have to wonder about when trying to make a deal. That said, unlike at other times, I just won’t be upset if he leaves.

  143. Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    Did anyone notice that the Printable Schedule does not have the game times on it, or the TV information????

    It’s basically useless to me!!!!!!!!!!

  144. Patrick January 25th, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    There is fan babble about Joba. Cashman has been adamant that he is in the bullpen to stay.

    I have contributed to that babble but I guess I didn’t realize how bad that injury back in 2008 was. I’ve always speculated that it was worse than reported given how drastically different a pitcher he’s been since then but I guess I never accepted it until Cashman’s comments today. It makes complete sense to keep him in the pen if his shoulder truly is a limiting factor.

    However, I think if it’s stopping him from realizing his full potential he should look into surgery… Maybe it’s something that can’t be fixed.

  145. Betsy January 25th, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    Joba’s stuff plays better out of the pen – ok Cash, so does every starting pitcher’s. Phil’s stuff was light years better out of the pen and he has fewer pitchers than Joba, so why is he a starter? I mean, Cash placed an enormous amount of emphasis on velocity – and I thought velocity was supposed to be overrated. How much confidence are we supposed to have in his ability to develop pitchers?

  146. Patrick January 25th, 2011 at 5:31 pm

    Betsy,

    That was the old excuse. The new one is that Joba can’t hold up for a full season as a starter and additionally that the shoulder is very much a limiting factor. This new reasoning holds a lot more water than the old excuse

  147. Betsy January 25th, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    SJ, then why did Hal overrule Cash on something as important as Soriano? Cashman wanted to keep the pick, but Hal and (Levine, which is ridiculous) decided that that wasn’t the way to go. Why the president of the Yankees is allowed to have such leeway in baseball operations is beyond me – Hal is smart, but he’s more like his dad than I thought. In any case, who’s to say Hal won’t make more moves like this – where he shows he doesn’t care so much about the draft? The Sox have a zillion picks this year and so do the Rays.

  148. SJ44 January 25th, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    Now we get the rest of the peanut gallery chiming in on comments they didn’t hear to do their daily bit of complaining.

    Do you KNOW what he said about Jeter?

    It was in response to a question that IF they moved Jeter, WHERE would it be.

    Francesa was trying to sell his theory about moving Jeter to third.

    Cashman, talking about a HYPOTHETICAL situation at a breakfast, said it was more reasonable to have a Robin Yount-type move.

    Cashman made it clear in his interview with Kay that there are NO plans to move Jeter.
    Context people. It often gets lost when padding quotes.

  149. Jerkface January 25th, 2011 at 5:33 pm

    Did anyone notice that the Printable Schedule does not have the game times on it, or the TV information????

    It will closer to the season, away games time gets chosen by the home team so teams might still be figuring out the most profitable yankee times.

  150. Betsy January 25th, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    LGY, some of us have been saying Boston is better for awhile, but what we get in response are posts such as “how can you say that, the Yankees are better……”. Have you been saying the Sox are better all along? I don’t even think it’s just the rotation; I love their offense.

  151. Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    Also, the downloadable schedule has the times, but not the TV information.

    Oh, well.

  152. Betsy January 25th, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    What are you saying, SJ, that you are one of the few that should post here because only your comments are reasonable?

  153. upstate kate January 25th, 2011 at 5:35 pm

    thanks hardwired for the link…it is good to hear directly what was actually said, and how it was said

  154. Betsy January 25th, 2011 at 5:38 pm

    Patrick, what was the old excuse? No, I still heard Cash reference velocity when he was on with Kay. I also don’t want to hear how tendonitis is such a minor thing if this affected Joba to that degree. From now on, if I hear someone has tendonitis, I’m not taking it lightly. Also, how dumb is Cash to reveal this if true? Now who is going to trade for Joba should the Yankees be inclined to do so? Who is going to want damaged goods?

  155. SJ44 January 25th, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    Betsy,

    You have the annoying habit of taking one instance and believing it will ALWAYS play out that way.

    That’s not how it is.

    Cash got overruled on Soriano. He also convinced Hal to change his stance and pay 180 million dollars to Mark Teieira.

    No GM has empirical power over EVERY player move.

    You are making far more a big deal over one instance than necessary.

    Hal Steinbrenner cares about the draft. There is more than one draft choice in a draft.

    Also, having a zillion picks doesn’t really mean much. Unless of course, you enjoy being on a five year development plan.

    You do realize the Yankees consistently pay over slot as much as any team in the draft each year, don’t you?

    If Hal didn’t care about the draft, he wouldn’t do that.

  156. Yankee Trader January 25th, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    hardwired7-

    Thanks for the link to the Kay/Cashman interview. Listening to it now.

  157. Patrick January 25th, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    I think its fairly obvious at this point that Joba’s shoulder was hurt a lot more than just tendonitis and is the main reason he will no longer start for the Yanks. Just examine the evidence and come to a logical conclusion, i’m too lazy to write it all out for you Betsy

  158. SJ44 January 25th, 2011 at 5:43 pm

    Being “better” in January is meaningless because it’s a subjective comment.

    The idea is to be “better” in October.

    Fortunately, games have to played and until then, which team is better is an open question.

  159. West Coast Yankee Fan January 25th, 2011 at 5:43 pm

    SJ44 January 25th, 2011 at 5:26 pm

    You are rude and arrogant. Your opinions are just that and nothing more. I do not believe you know anything more than anyone else here. As a matter of fact you were totally wrong about Lee, weren’t you.

    You comments on Joba are absurd. Thousands of fans have differing opinions on Joba, whether he should start or relieve. That is a controversy. I questioned the logic of Cashman saying today Joba was not right since the injury. And Cashman absolutely “mislead” on the Russell Martin situation. That was proven by his own words.

  160. SJ44 January 25th, 2011 at 5:44 pm

    Patrick,

    Don’t bother. People still won’t accept it.

  161. hardwired7 January 25th, 2011 at 5:47 pm

    No problem, Kate. It was a good interview (almost 32 minutes, a marathon by radio standards.)

    One thing I noticed was he specifically mentioned Warren and Phelps as possible back-end starters, along w/Nova — no mention of Mitre.

    At the risk of reading too much into it, hopefully the only plan for Sergio is long man/mop up guy.

  162. Betsy January 25th, 2011 at 5:47 pm

    SJ, then why did Hal overrule Cash this time? I think it’s because he knows his GM didn’t do a very good job in the off-season and he wanted to make a move to not only better his club but to get some buzz back from the fans. I realize that outside of Lee there were no palatable options, but let’s be honest. This rotation is constantly in flux in part because Cash hasn’t done a very good job of putting a stable rotation together. Many of his pitching moves, though some were good at the time, just didn’t pan out and he’s his success with the young pitchers hasn’t been so hot. I mean, 1 of them is hopefully on his way to a solid career as a good starter; the other one is a reliever only and the third is on another team.

  163. Betsy January 25th, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    I understand that, SJ, but the Yankees lineup is basically set – so is the Sox. How are the Yankees going to leapfrog over the sox? Not by improving their lineup……….. The pens are pretty equal. The Sox rotation DOES have question marks, but they are more easily answered in a positive way than are the Yankees.

    Patrick, I’ve rarely been one to criticize the Yankees as to how they’ve handled Joba, but I don’t see any evidence that Joba had a more serious injury than tendonitis. It’s possible the Yankees just think Joba isn’t a very good starter period and they are using this excuse in the hopes of placating people. I doubt it will work.

  164. SJ44 January 25th, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    And as you show everyday on here West Coast, you are clueless.

    What fans think does not make a “controversy”.

    Fans can turn anything into a “controversy”. As you try to do on here everyday.

    As far as what I know and don’t know, plenty of people on here know me.

    I don’t need to show you my resume.

    Cashman didn’t mislead anybody on Martin.

    He has said time and time again if healthy, Martin is the starter.

    I don’t know how many other ways he has to say it to satisfy you.

    Maybe if he says it to Jon Heyman, it will make you feel better.

  165. Erica in NY January 25th, 2011 at 5:52 pm

    Betsy January 25th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
    SJ, then why did Hal overrule Cash this time? I think it’s because he knows his GM didn’t do a very good job in the off-season and he wanted to make a move to not only better his club but to get some buzz back from the fans
    ***************

    Stop right there.

    Hal overruling Cash had nothing to do with any specific move or non-move. It was related to Soriano and Hal (and possibly a majority of the front office) thinking Soriano would better the team. End of story.

    No move is driven by one person alone.

    And fan buzz has nothing to do with it.

  166. LGY January 25th, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    SJ

    You are just a blogger without the infinite wisdom of Sir Jon, King Rosenthal, or Madame Madden.

    Blogger! :mad:

  167. Patrick January 25th, 2011 at 5:54 pm

    Betsy

    Compare Joba’s starting numbers in 2008 to 2009. Also read Cashman’s comments TODAY about how Joba has never been the same since the injury in 2008. Maybe it was just tendonitis but usually that will go away after a week or two of rest. Chronic, debilitating tendonitis? Is there such a thing as super-tendonitis?

    Seems obvious something else is wrong. Take it a step further, if Cashman knows this I’m sure he had Joba see a doctor about it. Could be like SJ44 suggested and it’s a problem that can’t be fixed by surgery similar to what Papelbon has.

  168. Betsy January 25th, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    Erica, stop? LOL If you don’t think Hal didn’t sense that fans were unhappy and that he wants to show the fans that this team is always in it to win it, then I don’t know what to tell you.

  169. SJ44 January 25th, 2011 at 5:58 pm

    Betsy,

    Have you ever heard of a difference of opinion?

    It happens at times.

    This time, Hal felt they had to make this move.

    Other times, as with Mike Cameron a few years ago, he felt differently.

    It’s why you can’t analyze one move and think “that’s the way it’s going to be”.

    As with every team, moves are determined on a case by case basis.

    I don’t know why that’s difficult for folks to understand.

  170. Betsy January 25th, 2011 at 5:59 pm

    supertendonitis, lol. Patrick, you’re probably right………. I mean, the way that Cash has vehemently and I mean vehmently, without ONE shred of hope for Joba to the rotation fans, has insisted that he’s a reliever leads me to believe that something is up. If so, despite the fact that I think Joba at times is a pain, I’m really sorry for him because I never want to see an athlete’s career compromised.

  171. Patrick January 25th, 2011 at 5:59 pm

    This team would look a lot different if Cashman had 100% autonomy. He doesn’t and I doubt any GM in the league has that power.

  172. Yankee Trader January 25th, 2011 at 5:59 pm

    http://espn.go.com/espnradio/p.....id=6058343

    Listen to the Kay/Cashman interview 30 minutes, and then maybe it’ll put your mind at ease about the front office decisions this offseason.

  173. Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    Thanks, Jerkface.

    I shouldn’t have wasted the ink. (I didn’t notice until it had printed out.)

  174. Bronx Jeers January 25th, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    I think its fairly obvious at this point that Joba’s shoulder was hurt a lot more than just tendonitis

    ————————————————————————————————————–

    Or it was just tendinitis and now somewhere in the back of his mind he’s afraid that a shoulder injury could end his career.

    He was cleared by the best shoulder guy out there. He can still hit 98 on the gun.

  175. Erica in NY January 25th, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    Betsy January 25th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
    Erica, stop? LOL If you don’t think Hal didn’t sense that fans were unhappy and that he wants to show the fans that this team is always in it to win it, then I don’t know what to tell you.

    **************

    Then I guess you don’t know what to tell me.
    I don’t think Hal did it for the fans. I think he did it for the Yankees.

  176. LGY January 25th, 2011 at 6:01 pm

    “And Cashman absolutely “mislead” on the Russell Martin situation. That was proven by his own words.”

    ————————–

    The open competition at catcher is for the backup job, not the starting job. “Russell Martin is our everyday guy,” Cashman said.

    Stop trying to troll.

  177. West Coast Yankee Fan January 25th, 2011 at 6:02 pm

    No SJ44 – I was right and you were wrong. If you don’t believe there was a controversy regarding Joba starting or not, you are more clueless than I imagined. Who are you to define what that means? Countless people respected in baseball circles have questioned why Joba is not starting. I happen not to be one of them. I happen to be a fan who always thought there was a reason he wasn’t starting and thought it was due to the shoulder injury. What I did today was question why all of a sudden Cashman admitted that publicly when he never had before. That is a very valid thing to question.

    Cashman said when he signed that Martin was the starter if healthy and that Montero and Cervelli would compete for the backup catching position. Now, he says they are all competing for the starting catching job. Inconsistent! Get it?

  178. Nick in SF January 25th, 2011 at 6:02 pm

    Actually, the Twins GM is optimistic that Joba might make a full recovery and start again although Joba has yet to resume any starting activities.

  179. Betsy January 25th, 2011 at 6:02 pm

    SJ, yes believe it or not I’ve had more than a few differences of opinions in my life- forget my life, just on this blog alone.

  180. Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 6:04 pm

    Yankee Trader -

    Some people don’t bother listening to the full context of things, and prefer to go on sound bytes and blog chatter.

    :(

  181. Nick in SF January 25th, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    The steam is rising. We could be one more Ken Rosenthal slight away from full meltdown.

  182. West Coast Yankee Fan January 25th, 2011 at 6:06 pm

    Breakfast Today: “Cashman has previously said Russell Martin, as long as he’s healthy, will absolutely be the Yankees starting catcher. Today he said there will be an open competition for the job”.

    Chad: “A few other notes from my conversation with Cashman. The open competition at catcher is for the backup job, not the starting job. “Russell Martin is our everyday guy,” Cashman said”.

  183. Wave Your Hat January 25th, 2011 at 6:06 pm

    There is obviously a controversy about whether Joba should start. It has been discussed and argued ad nauseum on numerous baseball sites, in the sports sections of newspapers and at the corner bar. There may be no internal Yankee controversy, and one side of the controversy may possibly have the better argument, but there is certainly a controversy.

    Cashman’s public statements regarding Soriano made the Cashman controversy, not the internal Yankee split of opinion. The public statements were unusual and curious and certainly merit speculation.

  184. LGY January 25th, 2011 at 6:06 pm

    “LGY, some of us have been saying Boston is better for awhile, but what we get in response are posts such as “how can you say that, the Yankees are better……”. Have you been saying the Sox are better all along? I don’t even think it’s just the rotation; I love their offense.”

    ———————–

    You get met with those responses when focus on all the flaws with the Yankees and ignore them with the Red Sox.

    The Red Sox are better “on paper” or “project” better right now and I have said that since they lost out on Lee, but a whole wealth of things can change that very quickly once the season starts.

    The Red Sox have plenty of question marks, just like the Yankees. You think the Sox offense is better than the Yankees?

  185. DocTodd January 25th, 2011 at 6:06 pm

    Let’s not try to predict what the future holds for Cashman…..Don’t forget how Cliff Lee playing for NY was the worst kept secret in all of baseball………..

  186. Betsy January 25th, 2011 at 6:06 pm

    Maybe Joba just thought he had to pace himself as a starter. Phil didn’t do that – he specifically told MLB that he decided to go all out and after he couldn’t throw any more pitches, then Joe could pull him. I remember Mitch Williams (of all people) admiring this attitude. Perhaps holding back like Joba may have been doing hurt him more than it would have had he aired it out., I’m not suggesting that Phil threw max effort all the time as a starter, but he didn’t hold back anything. I wonder if Joba ever did that………. The thing is, what role do his bad mechanics play? Maybe if he had better mechanics, his shoulder wouldn’t be quite the problem it apparently is. I mean, maybe his shoulder would feel better if he repeated his delivery better. I know the Yanks tried to get him to use his legs more – does he do that enough? If not, that could explain his arm/shoulder problem.

  187. Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 6:06 pm

    There was no “controversy” within the Yankees. Not since Joba was put in the pen at the start of last season. And even prior to that, I don’t think there was controversy, as much as trying to figure out what was up with Joba.

    The actual CONTROVERSY about Joba is fan- and media-fueled.

  188. West Coast Yankee Fan January 25th, 2011 at 6:07 pm

    I was just questioning why the comments were inconsistent. Perhaps Cashman was not quoted correctly; it’s certainly worth asking about.

  189. Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 6:08 pm

    Cashman did NOT say Martin was competing for the starting job. He said Martin is the starter and the competition is for the back-up position.

    Got it???

  190. LGY January 25th, 2011 at 6:10 pm

    Amanda Rykoff (the person who “quoted” Cashman on saying there was a competition for starting catcher) was called a “blogger” by Brian Cashman.

    WCYF now using lowly bloggers as his sources now to stir controversy??? :(

  191. Nick in SF January 25th, 2011 at 6:11 pm

    I have nothing but respect for Ken Rosenthal; it isn’t easy repesenting both Fox Sports and the Lollipop Guild.

  192. Betsy January 25th, 2011 at 6:11 pm

    LGY, absolutely. Ellsbury/Gardner are close. I would take AGon over Tex. I’d take Cano over Pedroia, but since both are terrific, it doesn’t really matter. Youkilis is great. You can say what you want to about Ortiz, but he’s off the juice and he’s still producing. Cameron is very good (or was last year) and Drew is Dew. I really don’t get the question marks about Youkils or Pedroia’s health. Crawford’s contract is a joke, but he’s a very good player. I do think Jeter will bounce back (to what extent though, I don’t know), but we don’t know how healthy Alex will be (if he is, he’ll be great). Posada is old and has never been a very good DH. Cano is great. Swisher will probably be good and I love Granderson. I think the Yankees have more ? in their lineup than the Sox do.

  193. West Coast Yankee Fan January 25th, 2011 at 6:11 pm

    Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 6:06 pm

    There was no “controversy” within the Yankees. Not since Joba was put in the pen at the start of last season. And even prior to that, I don’t think there was controversy, as much as trying to figure out what was up with Joba.

    The actual CONTROVERSY about Joba is fan- and media-fueled.

    *************

    I never said there was a disagreement internally, quite the contrary. I was referring to the intense discussion, controversy, whatever you want to call it, in the context of the Yankees not having a good five man rotation right now. Many were questioning whether Joba might be the answer. Again, I was not one of them. My original post on this was questioning why Cashman decided to speak publicly about Joba’s shoulder injury and that the reason he was in the pen was diminished velocity since the injury.

  194. Erica in NY January 25th, 2011 at 6:12 pm

    Nick in SF January 25th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
    I have nothing but respect for Ken Rosenthal; it isn’t easy repesenting both Fox Sports and the Lollipop Guild.

    ***********

    Speaking of the Lollipop Guild-

    I am pretty sure through this point today- a strawberry blow pop was the highlight of my day.

  195. West Coast Yankee Fan January 25th, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    LGY January 25th, 2011 at 6:10 pm

    Amanda Rykoff (the person who “quoted” Cashman on saying there was a competition for starting catcher) was called a “blogger” by Brian Cashman. WCYF now using lowly bloggers as his sources now to stir controversy??? :(

    ***********

    Well, why did Chad think it credible enough to post? Amanda is an ESPN West contributor. She stands by what she tweeted; go read her Twitter posts. Were you at the breakfast?

  196. Wave Your Hat January 25th, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    I am confused by at least one thing. If the Yanks felt that Joba’s 2008 injury compromised his ability to start, and Joba’s last start occurred in 2009, why was there a ballyhooed “competition” including Joba for a starting job at the beginning of 2010?

    Since Joba did not start in 2010 the Yanks can’t have learned more about Joba’s response to starting since then.

  197. Patrick January 25th, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    Or it was just tendinitis and now somewhere in the back of his mind he’s afraid that a shoulder injury could end his career.

    He was cleared by the best shoulder guy out there. He can still hit 98 on the gun.

    Hmm lets see.

    In 2008 Joba was a reliever in April and May. He was a starter in June and July, missed most of August with injury then was a reliever in September.

    2008 april 1 – june 1 avg fastball velocity: 96
    2008 june 1 – aug 4 (day he got injured) avg fastball velocity: 95.1
    2008 sept 1 – sept 28 avg fastball velocity: 93.9

    Looking at his velocity pre injury and post injury there is a pretty significant drop in fastball velocity. 96 to 93.9.

    Now lets look at his 2009 season. In 2009 he started the entire season except for one inning at the end of the year.

    2009 avg fastball velocity: 92.5

    Comparing the two stints of Joba starting in 2008 and 2009 we are looking at average fastball velocities of 95.1 pre-injury and 92.5 post-injury. Again, a VERY significant drop.

    Finally we can take a peak at 2010 velocity. As we all remember, he relieved for the full season.

    2010 avg fastball velocity: 94.6

    So to conclude, as a reliever in 2008 pre-injury Joba’s fastball averaged 96 mph, post-injury as a reliever he was at 93.9, 1.5 years later he averaged 94.6. Still a significant drop in velocity from before he hurt his shoulder but a bit of improvement.

    Just look at the numbers, it’s pretty obvious that his shoulder injury was more than just a simple case of tendinitis.

  198. LGY January 25th, 2011 at 6:16 pm

    “I’d take Cano over Pedroia, but since both are terrific, it doesn’t really matter.”

    ——————–

    Betsy,

    This is why you take so much heat when you talk about the Red Sox. It doesn’t really matter?

    Literally the best thing about the Yankees offense is Robinson Cano. Cano is a significantly better hitter than Dustin Pedroia, but it doesn’t matter.

  199. Betsy January 25th, 2011 at 6:17 pm

    Condolences to Tony Pena, who’s mother passed away in the Dominican Republic

  200. Betsy January 25th, 2011 at 6:17 pm

    OK, LGY, I’m not going to argue with you.

  201. Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 6:18 pm

    WCYF =

    But it doesn’t matter what the fans and media think. We can “decide” whatever we want, but it has absolutely zero value.

    If I recall, in answering the question, Cashman said he’s stated it before. I don’t remember him being specific about the shoulder, but he has said Joba’s velocity has suffered since 2008 and he hasn’t been the same pitcher since then in prior interviews.

    I like that Cashman does these informal things, and I think, generally speaking, they’re a good thing. But with this kind of fall-out, I wonder why he bothers. He can never win. Ever. He’s misquoted, misinterpreted and criticized no matter what he says. Even if he says positive things, he’s said to be “toeing the company line” or in “cya” mode.

    And WCYF, you may not “say” things, but you often enough “insinuate” them. You may not see it that way, but sometimes on the other end of things, they read that way.

  202. austinmac January 25th, 2011 at 6:19 pm

    Wandy Rodriguez just signed a three year deal with the Astros so he isn’t coming.

  203. Wave Your Hat January 25th, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    “Now lets look at his 2009 season. In 2009 he started the entire season except for one inning at the end of the year.

    2009 avg fastball velocity: 92.5″

    The other thing that confuses me is that whatever velocity he threw at, given his age and experience level he threw relatively effectively as a starter in 2009, despite having had the injury in 2008.

  204. Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    Wave Your Hat -

    Perhaps the Yankees thought that after resting in the off-season, Joba would be fine. Perhaps after (or even during) that competition, something cropped up?

    I’m not saying yay or nay, just putting it out there.

  205. DaSaint007 January 25th, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    Interesting move by Toronto sending Napoli to Texas.
    Toronto pen gets stronger.
    Napoli gets added as versitile bench C/1B/DH option for Texas.
    Young as DH/SS stays. For now.

    Guess no return for Vlad.

  206. pat January 25th, 2011 at 6:21 pm

    “Amanda is an ESPN West contributor.”

    ESPNW is not ESPN West, it is ESPN Women and Amanda is a contributor now to this start-up venture.

  207. Wave Your Hat January 25th, 2011 at 6:22 pm

    “Perhaps the Yankees thought that after resting in the off-season, Joba would be fine. Perhaps after (or even during) that competition, something cropped up?”

    Doreen, that would make sense except that 2009 intervened between the injury in 2008 and the ST competition in 2010.

  208. LGY January 25th, 2011 at 6:23 pm

    “I’m a contributor to espnW, but I’m not officially a reporter and I wasn’t at the event in that capacity. But thanks to smartphones and Twitter, aren’t we all reporters?”

    That is your source.

    And it is ESPN Women, not West.

  209. LGY January 25th, 2011 at 6:23 pm

    pat (lohud fact checker) beat me to it :)

  210. Patrick January 25th, 2011 at 6:23 pm

    Wave,

    A few things about that.

    He was pretty good in the first half but nowhere near his dominance in 2008. The second half of the season he was pretty bad. Maybe the league adjusted to him and learned that he couldn’t throw the slider for strikes? Without the amazing fastball pre-injury he couldn’t get by on his fastball alone. Maybe he wore down as the season went on? Maybe he just got lucky in the first half.

    I think Joba can still be an effective pitcher but the differences in velocity are pretty stark in my opinion. THere is definitely something wrong with that shoulder.

  211. Nick in SF January 25th, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    I thought ESPNW stood for ESPN Wilmington.

    She owns the Deleware tweet beat.

  212. pat January 25th, 2011 at 6:26 pm

    Yankees signed former Texas relief pitcher Warner Madrigal.

    Don’t remember anything about him except he had finger in the light socket insane hair!

  213. Wave Your Hat January 25th, 2011 at 6:28 pm

    Patrick-

    Maybe. But a lot of young pitchers have to face an adjustment process. I don’t know that Joba was any different, his overall numbers weren’t bad.

    Here’s the thing. Perhaps post-injury Joba isn’t the starting pitcher he once could have been. But the question isn’t that – it’s whether he can be better than Mitre, or a Millwood or Garcia?

    Isn’t it conceivable that the Yanks have over-reacted, thinking Joba can’t start at all because he isn’t the pitcher they once hoped he could be?

  214. YankeesNmore January 25th, 2011 at 6:32 pm

    “Hey Cashman — shut up and build a better club. You’ve done NOTHING to improve the rotation, so it’s little surprise you think Boston the better team.

    I’m really tired of this lawn gnome. His time and come and gone.”
    ——————————————————————————————
    A, and might I add, MEN!

  215. Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 6:32 pm

    WYH

    Ooops!

    It’s so easy to get confused. :)

  216. West Coast Yankee Fan January 25th, 2011 at 6:33 pm

    Doreen it’s a blog that’s all anyone does here is give there opinion or report on something they have heard elsewhere. I never insinuated anything, I say what I say, it is all my opinion. That’s all. People here tend to like arguing semantics or to harp on a word. Clearly there was a Joba controversy; people have spent hours on this blog debating it. That’s a controversy.

    I never said it was an internal one. If you read my previous posts on Joba I said countless times that Joba was in the pen, Cashman could not have been more clear about that. All I said today was that it was curious that he mentioned the shoulder issue publicly in relation to a drop in velocity and why that meant Joba would not be starting.

  217. Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 6:34 pm

    LGY -

    Did she actually tweet that? Or say that???

  218. West Coast Yankee Fan January 25th, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    Take it up with Chad LGY. He posted her reporting.

  219. Patrick January 25th, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    Wave,

    I think they saw him wear down in 2009 to the point he was no longer effective and came to the conclusion that his shoulder would limit him to the bullpen in the future. I’m sure they got input from the doctors and decided he would be best suited for a bullpen role longterm.

    I’m a bit surprised that Cashman let it slip today that Joba’s injury was more than it seems. I’m sure they’ve been keeping it quiet so that he could retain some of his trade value.

  220. West Coast Yankee Fan January 25th, 2011 at 6:38 pm

    Doreen here is her exact tweet:

    amandarykoff Amanda Rykoff
    Catching situation: Jorge DH. Open competition in camp for starting catcher at major league level.

  221. Bronx Jeers January 25th, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    Yankees signed former Texas relief pitcher Warner Madrigal.

    —————————————————————————————————–

    I love that guy. Looks like a teddy bear.

    Another player from San Pedro de Macoris. Must be something in the water.

  222. Mell January 25th, 2011 at 6:40 pm

    Wandy Rodriguez locks up with the Stros for 3 years and $34M

  223. Joe from Long Island January 25th, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    Saint – That was a very smart move by Toronto. This Alex GM guy (I won’t begin to misspell his last name) is making some very good moves to bolster his team, not just this year, but for the future. They’ve had strong starting pitching, now he’s replacing his pen with some arms….and he unloaded the Wells contract. Hard to do better than that, unless he gets a new philosophy for his hitters (no more swinging for the fences each and every AB).

    I think an interesting question for Toronto is what they do with Jose Bautista? Keep him and risk a big arbitration payout for his one year of great success? Or, look to deal him to a team hungry for a bat?

    It’s a lot better discussion than who-said-what-to-who; or, who’s clueless and who isn’t.

  224. Patrick January 25th, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    Cashman made it pretty clear that there would be a competition for back-up catcher but that Martin is the starting catcher if healthy. I don’t think he can be any clearer than that. Why are we still talking about this?

  225. Asd January 25th, 2011 at 6:42 pm

    I’m fully ready and willing to trust Martin and see what he can bring, but I kind of wish we could have gotten Napoli somehow. He’s always impressed me, kind of that “ability to step up when needed” factor. Alas, now he’s with the Rangers. That makes me sad.

    Oh, fun fact: I brought him in from LA in my MLB 2K10 account, to move Posada to perm DH. With him in the lineup it plays out:

    Gardy
    Swish
    Tex
    Cano
    Arod
    Napoli
    Posada
    Jeter
    Grandy

    I have great success. I could easily see the same lineup working with Martin instead.

  226. Joe from Long Island January 25th, 2011 at 6:42 pm

    Wandy Rodriguez, Warner Madrigal….

    Now, those are names with character.

  227. Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 6:43 pm

    WCYF -

    I know this is “out there,” but could it be she misheard? Or got it wrong in an effort to “tweet first?”

    In any event, Cashman cleared it up.

  228. pat January 25th, 2011 at 6:43 pm

    Bronx Jeers

    Am I thinking of the right guy? Does Madrigal have crazy hair?

  229. Wave Your Hat January 25th, 2011 at 6:44 pm

    The amount the Yanks signed Martin for speaks louder than any words. He’s the starting catcher.

  230. Patrick January 25th, 2011 at 6:45 pm

    The amount the Yanks signed Martin for speaks louder than any words. He’s the starting catcher.

    Just as you predicted

  231. tyanksfan36 January 25th, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    I know we are done talking about Jeters house, but I text my friend this morning about taking a trip down there and he just sent me this picture he took a few weeks ago:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/5.....otostream/

    He has some serious security cameras so there goes my plan to live there unnocticed. We are taking a trip down there this summer and then to the dog beach, maybe Jeter will be there.

  232. Asd January 25th, 2011 at 6:47 pm

    Perhaps you can take those materials and build a shack on his front lawn? No… he’s probably notice that.

  233. Tom in N.J. January 25th, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    Bronx ad Pat are both right. He’s got the crazy hair and he looks like a bear.:

    http://flairforthedramatic.mlb.....194511.jpg

    Plus, Erin and Erica may have a new Yankee favorite.

  234. Betsy January 25th, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    I have a good feeling about Martin………..and I much prefer, if Montero is the backup, that he be the backup instead of the primary catcher. Hopefully he’ll have a good ST……….

  235. Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 6:53 pm

    tyanksfan36 -

    thanks for that picture. Good to see Jeter did in fact put in some green. :)

  236. SAS January 25th, 2011 at 6:54 pm

    I want to thank you all again for your good wishes. I have been out all day and we are going out tonight.

  237. ac1 January 25th, 2011 at 6:54 pm

    they are not moving a-rod from the clean-up spot. He had 125 rbis last year, missing 23 games and hitting just .270. I say better to have Cano 3rd and Tex 5th, but i can see them keeping 3-4-5 as is, since it worked so well last year.

  238. West Coast Yankee Fan January 25th, 2011 at 6:56 pm

    Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 6:43 pm

    WCYF I know this is “out there,” but could it be she misheard? Or got it wrong in an effort to “tweet first?” In any event, Cashman cleared it up.

    ************

    Absolutely that is possible and even likely. It only got noticed by me and others because it was in Chad’s thread. It’s not his fault, he identified the source. She’s not just a blogger though, she does have 5,000 followers and is a contributer to ESPNW.

  239. Pat M. January 25th, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    I was just wondering if the Cashman controversy is just limited to The LoHud ??? I don’t venture sway from here so for those who have dual or multi residences did it play out there as well ????

  240. Erica in NY January 25th, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    Tom in N.J. January 25th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
    Bronx ad Pat are both right. He’s got the crazy hair and he looks like a bear.:

    http://flairforthedramatic.mlb…..194511.jpg

    Plus, Erin and Erica may have a new Yankee favorite.

    ************

    OMG- Can Fozzie Bear pitch?!?!?!

  241. Erica in NY January 25th, 2011 at 6:58 pm

    Pat M-

    Jerkface was lurking before wondering what you wanted

  242. Bronx Jeers January 25th, 2011 at 6:58 pm

    Just look at the numbers, it’s pretty obvious that his shoulder injury was more than just a simple case of tendinitis.
    ————————————————————————————————————————————–

    . Pre-injury vel. was 96 and now it’s 94.6?

    Everybody talks about him not being able to repeat his mechanics or his weight gain. Some say it’s just getting jerked around or it was the “rules” that impeded his progress.

    Could it be a shoulder injury? Of course but I wouldn’t say it’s the obvious reason.

  243. ac1 January 25th, 2011 at 6:59 pm

    He said one more starter. Friday is January 28. My birthday is Thursday, and I would like Pettitte to agree to come back so i dont have to hear about the Millwood and Garcias of the world.

  244. DaSaint007 January 25th, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    Chip, where are you?? No Wandy Rodriguez. Just signed extension.

  245. Bronx Jeers January 25th, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    Am I thinking of the right guy? Does Madrigal have crazy hair?

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    I’m sure you are. He’s also got a scrunchy face.

  246. tyanksfan36 January 25th, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    Doreen

    You’re welcome. I text my friend at maybe 10 this morning. Probably the only person who would humor my want to go see his house and he sends me two pictures of it. Totally not fair that he has been there but apparently he knows right where it is. I do like that he has put some foliage around it. I need to find someone with a boat so I can see it from the water. Right now it is storming like crazy, theres tornado watches and stuff, hopefully it stops by the time I wake up in the morning.

  247. Wave Your Hat January 25th, 2011 at 7:06 pm

    “I was just wondering if the Cashman controversy is just limited to The LoHud ???”

    Nah, the controversy found us.

    Got to go.

  248. Doreen January 25th, 2011 at 7:06 pm

    tyanksfan36 -

    It’s got to be soooooo tempting!

  249. Pat M. January 25th, 2011 at 7:08 pm

    Erica….I missed the lad…..I was just wondering if he still values Mikey Naps today as much as he did yesterday ??? Considering he was peddled off for a 31 year old setup reliever, and he’s indeed nothing more than a role player??? Maybe that deal last week was as much about both clubs moving parts that neither wanted anymore…..

  250. tyanksfan36 January 25th, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    Doreen

    We are definitely going down there. Apparently its not so guarded that you cant see it from the road so it will probably be worth it.

  251. mick January 25th, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    Cameron is very good (or was last year) and Drew is Dew.
    ========================================
    Now you lose all credibility Betsy…

  252. pat January 25th, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    Is their a guard booth in front of Derek’s house in the picture taken from the left facing the house angle?

  253. mick January 25th, 2011 at 7:14 pm

    2010 37 BOS AL 48 180 162 24 42 11 0 4 15 0 1 14 44 .259 .328 .401 .729 94

    Cameron had a great 2010 right Betsy?

  254. J. Alfred Prufrock January 25th, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    Betsy, Robinson Cano is the best all around player in major league baseball. He is head and shoulders a better player than Dustin Pedroia.

    ///
    The Joba stuff from Cashman is just more silliness.He wasn’t compromised last Spring Training?Besides,let’s just ignore that his average velo rose last yr.I’m sick to death of listening to Cashman’s myopic views on Chamberlain.He’s either dense or a dissembler.what, now they’re coming clean on Joba’s shoulder?what was he doing competing for a starting job LAST SPRING??So we’re to believe it was a crock to ensnare some naive rivalGM?…& was Chamberlain himself in on the fix?Sharp stuff.

  255. LGY January 25th, 2011 at 7:17 pm

    Take what up with Chad?

    He is not the one who spent all day trying to stir up controversy when there was nothing there.

  256. tyanksfan36 January 25th, 2011 at 7:17 pm

    Pat

    Its from the side, he sent me 2 pictures and neither are from the front.

  257. West Coast Yankee Fan January 25th, 2011 at 7:19 pm

    LGY – go troll elsewhere.

  258. SAS January 25th, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    Cashman talks Jeter, Pettitte and his own future with Michael Kay :arrow:

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