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Pinch hitting: Yair Rosenberg

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Pinch hitters on Jan 27, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Next up in our Pinch Hitters series is Yair Rosenberg, a senior at Harvard College, where he is currently the Movies editor at The Harvard Crimson. “I have a nagging suspicion that this piece will be slightly more controversial than my Toy Story 3 review,” he wrote. As a native New Yorker, Yair said he’s enjoying yet another year in which a New York football team has eliminated the Patriots, and he hope to see the Yankees do the same to the Red Sox this coming season.

That said, for his guest post, Yair wrote about a rather odd feeling that’s grabbed him this winter. He’s actually been — sort of — cheering for the Sox.

Anatomy of a Rivalry

As a lifelong Yankees fan, I have a confession to make: I’ve been rooting for the Red Sox this off-season.

No, it’s not that four years as a New York expatriate and Boston college student have finally eroded my team loyalty or my competitiveness. Quite the opposite, in fact — it is my love of the competition that has put me in this strange predicament. Now, before you begin drafting a choicely worded death threat for the comments, do let me explain.

I don’t think I’m the only Yankees fan out there who felt that over the course of last season, the Yankees/Sox rivalry just wasn’t much fun. With Boston’s lineup decimated by injuries – stocked not with superstars but with mostly minor leaguers, bench players, and a few rapidly declining veterans – the games felt like a sham. This was especially true toward the end of the season, when the Yankees found themselves facing an out-of-contention Sox squad headlined by Darnell McDonald and the line-up of AAA Pawtucket.

In any sport, it may be fun to watch one’s player or team of choice upstage random, hopelessly inferior opponents — like watching Kobe Bryant dunk on some no-name defender, or the Yankees shellacking the Orioles (yet again) — but good, battle-tested rivalries are made of much stronger stuff.

Like many epic enmities, the Yankees/Sox rivalry is fueled by the narcissism of small differences. That is, what makes the competition so acute is the similarity between the two clubs in talent, style and approach, which throws their slight disparities into sharp relief. To take an illustrative example from my backyard, the storied university rivalry between Harvard and Yale sure isn’t predicated on the vast differences between the two twin Ivy League elites; rather, it stems from their commonalities. Because the two schools are so alike in terms of academics, student body, and culture, their most minute distinctions are put under the microscope in a search for uniqueness and superiority, intensifying the rivalry to the extreme. Every detail becomes a battleground. Each side wants to be the best when it comes to the traits both so dearly prize. So to with Yankees/Sox.

Consider plate discipline. The Yankees grind out every single at-bat, jacking up pitch counts, and working one of the best OBP’s in the league. So do the Sox. Joe West was onto something when he griped that Yankees/Sox games tend to go on far longer than any others in baseball. That’s what happens when you pit the two teams with the best OBP in the American League for six of the past eight years against each other. Indeed, the front offices of both squads have cultivated many of the same virtues both at the plate and on the mound. The result? Nine-inning grinds that exhaust umpires but exhilarate fans.

Consider payroll, where New York and Boston are far and away the highest spenders in baseball, especially in the AL. Consider size of fanbase, where both the Yankee nation and the Red Sox nation leave all other teams in the dust. Wherever you look, what makes the NY/Boston rivalry so potent is the spectacle of two well-matched titans duking it out for supremacy.

But what we had last year was a parody of that spectacle. I felt like Boston didn’t hold up its end of the traditional bargain. Who wants to watch the New York Yankees beat the Replacement Level Red Sox? All of which is why this off-season, I’ve found myself cheering Boston’s acquisitions of Carl Crawford and Adrian Gonzalez. Don’t get me wrong – if the Sox had signed a free agent the Yankees were actually interested in (Cliff Lee, for instance), I wouldn’t be writing this. But so long as the Red Sox can retool without treading on our free agent territory, I’m for it.

After all, who is it more satisfying to pound into submission – an outfield captained by Crawford, or one patrolled by last year’s fearsome trio of Bill Hall, Ryan Kalish and Eric Patterson? With a newly reloaded rival at the ready, I look forward to the singular thrill of Yankee victories in hard-fought, three-and-a-half hour Yankees/Sox duels come September.

Truth or treason? What do you think?

Associated Press photos of Crawford and Soriano

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211 Responses to “Pinch hitting: Yair Rosenberg”

  1. John in Ohio January 27th, 2011 at 9:07 am

    Nicely written, but I disagree. I hope they finish last.

  2. MTU January 27th, 2011 at 9:07 am

    Each to their own.

    You made one tiny mistake in your post. If you will allow me.

    It’s the Yankee’s “Universe” vs. the Red Sox “Nation”.

    In my estimation a Universe always trumps a Nation in the end.

    ;)

  3. MTU January 27th, 2011 at 9:08 am

    Or you might say a “Universe” contains a “Nation” but never the other way around.

  4. mick January 27th, 2011 at 9:13 am

    rs are wannabes….suffer an inferiority complex akin to the mets….

  5. SJ44 January 27th, 2011 at 9:14 am

    I don’t believe any real Yankee fan “roots” for the Red Sox.

    The rivalry between the two teams will always be there.

    What has been missing was the ESPN-fed nonsensical hype surrounding each game as if it was life and death.

    Personally, I find that refreshing.

    It’s not college football.

    If you beat the Red Sox 18 times in a season, yet fail to make the playoffs or win the WS, it’s not a successful season.

    At least that’s the case for Yankee fans.

  6. HipHipHorHay January 27th, 2011 at 9:14 am

    Like John, I respect your viewpoint, but can’t relate to it. I hope they all have season-ending groin injuries.

  7. austinmac January 27th, 2011 at 9:16 am

    My favorite season is when the Yankees get a ten game lead in June and slowly pull away.

  8. MTU January 27th, 2011 at 9:16 am

    What I think will be a real hoot is if the Sux, after having spent all that dough, wind up out of contention somehow.

    Now that would be funny.

    :)

  9. MTU January 27th, 2011 at 9:17 am

    Can you imagine the steam that would come of of ole’ O’Henry’s ears.

    Too funny.

    :)

  10. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 27th, 2011 at 9:18 am

    “After all, who is it more satisfying to pound into submission – an outfield captained by Crawford, or one patrolled by last year’s fearsome trio of Bill Hall, Ryan Kalish and Eric Patterson?”

    Absolutely, unequivocally, without question or hesitation – both.

  11. MTU January 27th, 2011 at 9:18 am

    edit: “out of”.

  12. Mike_Boston January 27th, 2011 at 9:19 am

    Rooting for the red sox to do anything but lose doesn’t make a hell of a lot of sense to me, but beating them with a higher payroll for the first time ever would be just a little sweeter than usual I bet.

  13. MTU January 27th, 2011 at 9:22 am

    The Sux, much to their chagrin, will always be nothing more than just pretenders to the throne.

    They have spent most of their history on the outside lookin’ in.

    And that is their fate.

    They may be good for a while but they will NEVER be the Yankees no matter how hard they try.

    That’s got to hurt.

    Living permanently in the shadow of such greatness.

    I hope they enjoy their brief moments in the Sun.

  14. JD January 27th, 2011 at 9:23 am

    I too live in enemy territory and can relate to this post. It’s just not as fun here when the Red Sox aren’t relevant. Especially in September and October. If I was in NY surrounded by fellow Yankee fans I wouldn’t care if the Red Sox self-destructed. But here it’s nice when the rug is swept out from under the Sox just when their fans think and are happy to tell you their team is the best.

  15. Doreen January 27th, 2011 at 9:26 am

    I understand what you’re saying. It’s more satisfying to best a rival when the rival is at full strength.

    Besting the rival, this case, is not just the head-to-head competition; it’s beating them out for the division/playoffs. As SJ44 pointed out, if the Yankees beat the RS 18 times but fail to win overall, it’s a very hollow victory.

  16. Triple Short of a Cycle January 27th, 2011 at 9:29 am

    Does anyone have any major league comps for Banuelos and Betances and what type of player they project to be?

  17. BIG AL January 27th, 2011 at 9:30 am

    I can’t relate to this post. As a Yankees fan, I want nothing more than to see the Sux 10 games out by the AS break, and free falling from that point.

    Regardless of who the Yankees play, winning is always fun, but, beating the Sux is pure joy.

    No, I can’t understand how a true Yankees fan could ever wish the Sux well, for any reason. To each his own.

  18. Rich in NJ January 27th, 2011 at 9:30 am

    The rivalry has become tedious as a result of the unbalanced schedule.

  19. yankbean January 27th, 2011 at 9:32 am

    Get some perspective. I live in Boston, too, but as a Yankee fan, baseball does not live and die by this “rivalry”. In fact, I can remember times when Kansas City, the Dodgers and even Baltimore were greater rivals to us than the Red Sox. (We have always been their chief rival, however.) Despite the lack of competition from the Sox, I very much enjoyed the Tampa rivalry last year and could care less what moves the Sox made. Just by getting healthy, they would have been competitive anyway.

  20. upstate kate January 27th, 2011 at 9:33 am

    I can relate. I have 2 sisters who settled in the Boston area and have been sox fans since the late 70s. My sister and I have fun trash texting/emailing, or just discussing our teams. Last year, once Ped/Youk were both out, it became too cruel to tease.

  21. Fran the original January 27th, 2011 at 9:33 am

    Big Al,

    I am with you. I never want to see a good Red Sox team.

  22. SJ44 January 27th, 2011 at 9:34 am

    I agree Rich.

    It would be more of a rivalry if they played less.

    Especially in years where half the games are played before Memorial Day.

    It’s pretty hard to sell me “big” games in April and May of a baseball season.

  23. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 27th, 2011 at 9:34 am

    “It’s more satisfying to best a rival when the rival is at full strength.”

    I agree with that except when it comes to the Suxers. For me, I don’t care if they’re playing with a team full of all stars or hanging on by a thread. All that matters to me is the W. It won’t feel any sweeter to me to beat them with Crawford and Gonzalez than it has with any other team they’ve trooped out there. I don’t care about bragging rights when it comes to payroll, personnel, or anything else.

    Just beat them. Period.

  24. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 27th, 2011 at 9:35 am

    Big Al and Fran -

    :)

  25. 86w183 January 27th, 2011 at 9:36 am

    If the Red Saux faced the Taliban I would have mixed feelings

    Beating a rival at its best is more satisfying, but having a rival at its best certainly isn’t

  26. Erin January 27th, 2011 at 9:37 am

    Yair-loved your Toy Story 3 review. :)

  27. Fran the original January 27th, 2011 at 9:38 am

    Trisha,

    I knew you’d see it our way :)

  28. Erin January 27th, 2011 at 9:39 am

    A little morning gossip:

    http://justjared.buzznet.com/2.....ren-paris/

  29. BIG AL January 27th, 2011 at 9:39 am

    With the season not too far away, is it me, or do others agree that MLB needs to change the schedule, so the early games are played in the warmer climates, and avoid opening days in the NE until later in April.

    The chance of injury is greater when playing in colder weather early in April for all players, and more so for pitchers.

  30. Tom in N.J. January 27th, 2011 at 9:39 am

    They play 18 times a year. It’s become old hat, or almost formulaic.

  31. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 27th, 2011 at 9:40 am

    “I knew you’d see it our way :)

    And vice versa!

  32. Erin January 27th, 2011 at 9:40 am

    trisha – true pinstriped blue January 27th, 2011 at 9:34 am

    Just beat them. Period.

    **************************

    Agreed.

  33. Bronx Jeers January 27th, 2011 at 9:41 am

    As a lifelong Yankees fan, I have a confession to make: I’ve been rooting for the Red Sox this off-season.

    And that’s as far as I got with this one.

    Next !!

  34. BIG AL January 27th, 2011 at 9:41 am

    trisha -

    Good morning, getting that snow you love so much?

    It’s sunny here, and going into the upper 50′s, hope you enjoy the snow.

  35. SJ44 January 27th, 2011 at 9:44 am

    I think the way baseball has set it’s schedule has been nuts for years.

    I’ve never understood the reasoning to have so many teams in the NE and Midwest play so many cold weather games in April and May.

    Especially when you can now set make schedules by computer instead of doing it by hand, as they did for ages.

    Just another example of the “Reign of Terror” under Bud Selig.

  36. MTU January 27th, 2011 at 9:45 am

    Al-

    Feelin’ a little better I see.

    :)

  37. BIG AL January 27th, 2011 at 9:46 am

    MTU -

    Each passing day gets a little better. Long way to go, but, better.

  38. SJ44 January 27th, 2011 at 9:47 am

    Buster Olney has an interesting thought in his column today.

    What if George Steinbrenner had Twitter during his time?

    I gotta tell ya, if George had Twitter in the 80′s, I’d pay ANYTHING to have a “way back” machine to check that out! lol

  39. Out Pitch January 27th, 2011 at 9:47 am

    To state the obvious, it’s not Yankees Vs. Red Sox it’s Yankees vs every other team in the league. To say otherwise is only to play the provocateur. You’ll be writing teasers for Fox News in no time.

  40. Doreen January 27th, 2011 at 9:48 am

    I hate the hype that goes along with Red Sox/Yankees games. It makes them almost unwatchable for me (especially since many of the games are covered by Fox/ESPN).

    It was nice that last year had a new competitor in the Rays. It was a good change of pace.

    I hate the unbalanced schedule and I’m not a huge fan of interleague play, especially 6 games against the Mets every year. I’d be okay with one series against the Mets each year with home team alternating. But that’s another match-up that’s outgrown any novelty or appeal for me.

  41. JCPD January 27th, 2011 at 9:48 am

    Morning Al, I can happily say, no snow here today!!!

  42. MTU January 27th, 2011 at 9:51 am

    JCPD-

    How did the first few days in the new salt mine go ?

    :)

  43. JCPD January 27th, 2011 at 9:54 am

    Yesterday was day 1, I survived. It’s just an awkward feeling again knowing no one, not knowing where anything is and of course, some things done differently. Time will fix those issues though, so, it’s just keep on plugging.

  44. RhapsodyInBlue January 27th, 2011 at 9:54 am

    I’ve never seen higher expectations from Sox fans then there exists for this 2011 team.

    Despite the pitching rotation unchanged from 2010.

    I’m hoping Beckett comes into camp 80 lbs overweight.

    Speaking from experience a bad back does not improve with age.

  45. MTU January 27th, 2011 at 9:56 am

    JCPD-

    Nothing but the uttmost confidence in you.

    Any hot waitresses yet ?

    :)

  46. Bronx Jeers January 27th, 2011 at 9:56 am

    A little morning gossip:

    ———————————————-

    I like the morning gossip breaks but really we should just call it “The ARod Report”

    And look how far our man has come. Just a few years back he was hanging out with strippers. Now he’s sharing a bottle of wine with a former US President and visiting friends on the Left Bank.

    Next we’ll hear that he’s throwing his centaur paintings away!

  47. ac1 January 27th, 2011 at 9:57 am

    I too live in enemy territory and can relate to this post. It’s just not as fun here when the Red Sox aren’t relevant. Especially in September and October. If I was in NY surrounded by fellow Yankee fans I wouldn’t care if the Red Sox self-destructed. But here it’s nice when the rug is swept out from under the Sox just when their fans think and are happy to tell you their team is the best.

    ___

    I agree. I live in Boston too and in the fall, everyone was just so dejected.

    good times…

  48. BIG AL January 27th, 2011 at 9:57 am

    Doreen -

    Agreed!

    With a balanced schedule, you get a better feel for which teams are strong competitors as well, and you could eliminate the weaker teams from getting home field advantage in the PS by simply saying the team with the best record gets home field advantage, regardless of whether or not they were a division winner, or wild card team.

  49. Cashman needs to go January 27th, 2011 at 9:58 am

    eeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrr….wrong answer…..

    a true yankee fan, even if they lived in boston all their lives and work for the redsox organization will always want them to not only finish in last place every year but possibly go bankrupt and cease to exist as a franchise…(so we can go on to hate the rays and rangers)..

    as much as i don’t like cashman and can’t wait to see the day he’s gone…..if someone told me that the redsox would suck for the rest of history but it would mean that cashman is the yankee GM just as long …..i’d sign up for that in 3 seconds…

    oh and by the way those replacement level redsox gave the yankees all they could handle last year…not sure what games you were watching….

    good luck to you …townie….. ;-)

  50. ac1 January 27th, 2011 at 9:58 am

    mlb needs to rebalance the schedule. no more of this 18 games against division crap.

    the only problem there will be that even the AL East 5th place team will be better than all teams in the AL, except maybe texas.

  51. Erin January 27th, 2011 at 9:59 am

    Bronx Jeers January 27th, 2011 at 9:56 am

    I like the morning gossip breaks but really we should just call it ?The ARod Report?

    ******************

    :lol:

    They do always seem to involve Alex, don’t they? Once in a while Jeter sneaks in there though. Maybe I’ll start stating whether it’s an Alex or Derek gossip break.

  52. RhapsodyInBlue January 27th, 2011 at 10:00 am

    Beckett last week.

    http://s378.photobucket.com/al.....thatwuzme/

  53. HipHipHorHay January 27th, 2011 at 10:01 am

    JD January 27th, 2011 at 9:23 am
    “But here it?s nice when the rug is swept out from under the Sox just when their fans think and are happy to tell you their team is the best.”

    —–

    Now that part I get.

  54. BIG AL January 27th, 2011 at 10:01 am

    JCPD -

    Good morning, great news on the new position, and hope things get easier as you settle in. Don’t let MTU in your place, he’s already looking at the wait staff. Boy, the older they get ……

  55. RhapsodyInBlue January 27th, 2011 at 10:01 am

    Sorry, here is Beckett in a recent.

    http://i378.photobucket.com/al.....e/Josh.gif

  56. JCPD January 27th, 2011 at 10:02 am

    Why of course MTU………. :-)

  57. upstate kate January 27th, 2011 at 10:03 am

    I don’t like the unbalanced schedule either. It gets tiring to see the same teams all the time. I feel like I know the AL east players so much better than the other divisions. I would like to see more of the other players.

    And I absolutely hate interleague. It was fun for awhile, but that time has long passed.

  58. JCPD January 27th, 2011 at 10:04 am

    BIG AL January 27th, 2011 at 10:01 am
    JCPD -

    Good morning, great news on the new position, and hope things get easier as you settle in. Don’t let MTU in your place, he’s already looking at the wait staff. Boy, the older they get ……

    ——————————————————————————-

    Al, can’t say anything about MTU because I’ll have to admit that back in 04 when I was engaged, she was significantly younger than I was.

  59. ac1 January 27th, 2011 at 10:04 am

    Sorry, here is Beckett in a recent.

    http://i378.photobucket.com/al…..e/Josh.gif

    __

    looks powerful

  60. MTU January 27th, 2011 at 10:05 am

    C’mon Al.

    Nothing wrong with a little window shopping now and then.

    ;)

  61. BIG AL January 27th, 2011 at 10:08 am

    How about a rules change. In all interleague play, (although I’d like to see it go away), and PS games the DH is in affect, period.

    The chances of AL pitchers getting hurt is much to great, since they never bat, or run the bases the entire season, other than those games.

    I’m a purest, I’d rather have no DH, and play the game as it was designed. No DH, just a great PH on the bench. But, if MLB wants to maintain a DH, then it should be for all teams, both AL and NL.

  62. MTU January 27th, 2011 at 10:10 am

    JCPD-

    Just be careful not to mix up your Hor’s Douvers with the Main courses.

    ;)

  63. BIG AL January 27th, 2011 at 10:10 am

    JCPD -

    She had to be to keep up with you!

  64. NYY626 - Andy in 2011 January 27th, 2011 at 10:10 am

    I lived in Boston from 03 – 08 ( during the school year anyway) so needless to see I didnt see many dejected sox fans :/ ( well except during october 2003!!)

    I have to admit there was a little something missing last year, especially during those games in september when the sox were out of it.

    Will anything top 2009? We went from “omg the yankees are 0-8!”, to tying up the season series, and then winning the WS. Take that Boston :P

  65. Fran the original January 27th, 2011 at 10:14 am

    I am over interleague play too.

  66. BIG AL January 27th, 2011 at 10:14 am

    Got to go, catch you later.

  67. blake January 27th, 2011 at 10:15 am

    SJ,

    George with twitter would have been the best (and worst) thing ever.

  68. yankee_redhawk January 27th, 2011 at 10:16 am

    I love the angle yair took. I was at the last game of the year yanks/sox in fenway and had looked forward to it all year (my first game in boston) only to be disappointed when the Boston Red Scrubs took the field.

  69. NYY626 - Andy in 2011 January 27th, 2011 at 10:17 am

    I like interleague, mainly because watching Andy Pettitte try to hit a baseball is highly amusing. I’ve watched his WS RBI and him running around the bases with jeter more times than I care to admit :)

  70. Betsy January 27th, 2011 at 10:20 am

    SJ, again you just don’t tolerate other peoples’ opinions very well – that’s what it comes down to.

    No, I don’t like Cashman being this honest. I was fine with his Jeter should test FA comments, but not his Soriano and or his “stupid” comments. I don’t care if Hal and Hank are fine with them. If they are that’s fine, but since when do I need to agree with Hal and Hank?

  71. upstate kate January 27th, 2011 at 10:20 am

    good point NYY626…I thought Jeet might catch him. And remember Mo’s at bat vs the Mets? But the dark side is Wang’s injury.

  72. ericns1 January 27th, 2011 at 10:21 am

    Sorry but I want the R-d S-x to go 0-162 every year

  73. Betsy January 27th, 2011 at 10:23 am

    I love the rivalry, but no way am I cheering the improvement of the Sox when it probably comes at the expense of our team. I don’t wish ill health on them (if they’d been healthy last year, they might have won the division) at all, but I despise them and I hate the idea of them having a good team.

  74. LGY January 27th, 2011 at 10:23 am

    Face

    I have to place an order with you. I’m in need of a whole mess of bacon.

  75. West Coast Yankee Fan January 27th, 2011 at 10:25 am

    Mr. Rosenberg – waking up late on the West Coast I thank you for the guest post but I can’ agree with much of what you said. I see little few similarities between the Yankees and Red Sox. The cities, fans and ball clubs could not be more different in almost every respect. I may admire the moves their GM makes or bemoan what I perceive to be a shift their way in the balance of power in the East from time to time, but that’s the extent of it. Derision and hatred prevails.

  76. NYY626 - Andy in 2011 January 27th, 2011 at 10:26 am

    upstate kate January 27th, 2011 at 10:20 am
    good point NYY626…I thought Jeet might catch him. And remember Mo’s at bat vs the Mets? But the dark side is Wang’s injury.

    _______________________________________________________
    ahhh Mo’s RBI. That might be one of the funniest innings of baseball ever. Between jeter’s facial expressions, Girardi trying to trick the mets into thinking cervelli was going to bat, and K-rod just completely melting down and walking Mo….hilarious!

  77. upstate kate January 27th, 2011 at 10:27 am

    looking for some natural caffeine LGY?

  78. SJ44 January 27th, 2011 at 10:27 am

    Blake,

    It would be the greatest thing ever! lol

    Just the in game postings alone would have been worth their weight in gold.

  79. 108 stitches January 27th, 2011 at 10:31 am

    Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Since John Henry bought the RS, somewhat of a Yankee business model has been attempted.
    Regardless, they’ll always be little brother baseball. For years the line of where Yankee influence was prominent was East and West Waterbury, Conn. with the Eastern portion being Yankee fans.
    Once north of New Haven, blind faith begins to be felt.

  80. Shame Spencer January 27th, 2011 at 10:31 am

    I kinda love how technology has played a role in keeping sports honest. I know a lot of people are unhappy with some of the Packers players for expressing their thoughts via twitter, same goes for Cromartie and countless others.. but I sorta love it.

    Reminds me of watching pro wrestling for all that drama.. but in this case it isn’t fiction. I, for one, have always been a fan of great theater so I think its awesome that Cash says stuff like “yeah we don’t think Jeter will still be able to be a short stop in 4 years.” …because then, when/if Jeter can continue to be productive down the road, it makes it an even greater story than it was before.

  81. LGY January 27th, 2011 at 10:32 am

    Kate

    Coffee can’t stand up to bacon today. A whole mess of it to be exact as DR Face prescribes.

  82. Betsy January 27th, 2011 at 10:32 am

    http://nba.fanhouse.com/2011/0.....id=webmail

    This is a really nice story about a kid who was considered the biggest bust in NBA history and who has turned his life around. Mr. Weinberg, the ex-owner of the Trail Blazers did a wonderful thing.

  83. Mike Ri January 27th, 2011 at 10:36 am

    a little extra news. via mlbtraderumors.com

    As Joel Sherman of the New York Post points out, both the Yankees and the Rangers pursued Cliff Lee aggressively, then “gambled on a former Cy Young winner who has been devastated by shoulder injuries in recent years.” But Colon is a back-of-the-rotation arm, not a true alternative to Lee. Brandon Webb, the Rangers’ new addition, is no sure thing either.
    The Yankees are upbeat about the chances that Andy Pettitte returns for another season, according to Sherman. They’re still considering free agents like Justin Duchscherer and Jeremy Bonderman, though.

  84. Erin January 27th, 2011 at 10:39 am

    NYY626 – Andy in 2011 January 27th, 2011 at 10:26 am

    ahhh Mo?s RBI. That might be one of the funniest innings of baseball ever. Between jeter?s facial expressions, Girardi trying to trick the mets into thinking cervelli was going to bat, and K-rod just completely melting down and walking Mo?.hilarious!

    ****************************
    I don’t think I’ll ever forget that game. I still crack up when I think about Jeter’s facial expressions. :lol:

  85. Tom in N.J. January 27th, 2011 at 10:40 am

    Vital Bacon:

    http://www.literaturepage.com/.....ys-86.html

  86. blake January 27th, 2011 at 10:42 am

    SJ,

    Can you just imagine George sitting there in the owners box with a blackberry with a direct line to the public and no filter ….

  87. Betsy January 27th, 2011 at 10:43 am

    Sherman’s a genius, lol. Of course there was no true alternative to Lee- how many Lees are there in the majors? Not many. If the Yankees are seeking a front of the rotation starter to pair with CC, they’re not going to succeed. At this point, they have to hope that Phil and AJ pitch well enough to support a weakened back end of the rotation.

  88. NYY626 - Andy in 2011 January 27th, 2011 at 10:43 am

    Erin January 27th, 2011 at 10:39 am
    I don’t think I’ll ever forget that game. I still crack up when I think about Jeter’s facial expressions.
    __________________________________________________
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_CYbs...../jeter.png :)

  89. Erin January 27th, 2011 at 10:44 am

    NYY626 – Andy in 2011 January 27th, 2011 at 10:43 am

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_CYbs…../jeter.png

    **************************
    That’s it!!! Never gets old :)

  90. upstate kate January 27th, 2011 at 10:47 am

    late night LGY?

  91. pat January 27th, 2011 at 10:55 am

    Rays replaced their synthetic turf in the Trop with an Astro-turf product similiar to what is used by the Jays.

  92. Crawdaddy January 27th, 2011 at 11:00 am

    Sherman is wrong about the innings limit of 125 for Banuelos and Betances. I think it’s 150 innings in 2011.

    http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/.....UaPQGYVBkM

  93. Jolie January 27th, 2011 at 11:01 am

    As a RS fan, I can speak for the masses in that there’s more of a rivalry for Bostonians with LA between the Celtics/Lakers as they have been traditionally more evenly matched as foes and pitted against one another more often, esp. as of late – kind of like Pats/Colts.
    RS/Skankees was more passionate here prior to 2004 and has lost much of its lustre since. Now they’re viewed as just another AL East pest we have to exterminate. They’re not as big and bad anymore as they are beatable. In Boston, the ratings are down for the RS as fans have been bored – and the focus has turned to the C’s.

  94. Crawdaddy January 27th, 2011 at 11:02 am

    Betsy,

    Who gives a rip if you don’t like Cashman’s comments. It’s your opinion and you’re welcome to expressing that opinion which is what this blog and other internet sites are for. Cashman is going to do and say what he wants and the only people he has to answer to is the Steinbrenners.

  95. SAS January 27th, 2011 at 11:03 am

    pat,

    It’s still a synthetic grass and not so good for our guys. It’s tougher on the legs, etc.

  96. SAS January 27th, 2011 at 11:04 am

    Oh pat,

    How much snow did you get?

  97. pat January 27th, 2011 at 11:08 am

    SAS

    About a foot. The heavy wet kind of snow. Schools closed south of 287 and 2 hour delays north of it.

  98. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 27th, 2011 at 11:10 am

    “As a RS fan, I can speak for the masses in that there’s more of a rivalry for Bostonians with LA between the Celtics/Lakers as they have been traditionally more evenly matched as foes and pitted against one another more often, esp. as of late – kind of like Pats/Colts.
    RS/Skankees was more passionate here prior to 2004 and has lost much of its lustre since. Now they’re viewed as just another AL East pest we have to exterminate. They’re not as big and bad anymore as they are beatable. In Boston, the ratings are down for the RS as fans have been bored – and the focus has turned to the C’s”

    Y-A-W-N!!!!!

  99. pat January 27th, 2011 at 11:12 am

    Apologies if this was already posted….

    K. Law top 100 prospects:

    #4 Montero
    #12 Banuelos
    #68 Sanchez
    #73 Betances
    #88 Brackman

  100. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 27th, 2011 at 11:13 am

    I would suggest that ratings are down because the Sux haven’t been spit since 2007.

    Also, you must be one of the few “excited” fans left as you are here hanging out on a Yankee forum during the offseason.

    :roll:

  101. pat January 27th, 2011 at 11:14 am

    Romine made Law’s just missed the top 100 list too.

  102. Betsy January 27th, 2011 at 11:17 am

    Craw, I know I shouldn’t respond when the implication is there that you shouldn’t speak your mind, but it’s hard for me not to. I agree with you as well about the Steinbrothers. I mean, if they don’t mind his comments, then for practical purposes it means nothing. I do think that a GM of a team should be mature enough not to call people stupid for criticizing their handling of Joba or whomever, but at this point now it’s over and done with.

  103. Betsy January 27th, 2011 at 11:18 am

    Law is quite high on Banuelos and that was obvious during the AFL, but his rankings also make clear what his comments about Betances at the time were……………I hope both become productive pitchers for us

  104. blake January 27th, 2011 at 11:18 am

    Baneulos #12. Wow that’s high…Law seems to really like him as he should ….kid has a shot at being really good.

  105. Betsy January 27th, 2011 at 11:19 am

    I meant to say that it was obvious all season that Law was not high on Betances…….hopefully he’ll be proven wrong.

  106. randy l. January 27th, 2011 at 11:22 am

    “Who gives a rip if you don’t like Cashman’s comments”

    crawdaddy-

    a better question would be for you to ask yourself who gives a rip what you think about betsy’s comments .

    as you say. she has a right to her opinion.

  107. Betsy January 27th, 2011 at 11:24 am

    Randy, sometimes I wonder about your last comment, lol. I think some people would just prefer posters to parrot everyone else so there is complete agreement.

  108. blake January 27th, 2011 at 11:24 am

    I’ve heard it written several times and I think even by Law that Betances had the higher ceiling but that Banuelos had the higher floor between the two. Betances is older and there are some questions about whether he can hold up as a starter….thus the lower ranking. He could change those opinions with another step forward this year……if Banuelos is going to pitch in the low-mid 90s then his ceiling is pretty high as well.l because he’s very polished for his age with good command and a nasty change.

  109. mick January 27th, 2011 at 11:24 am

    she has a right to her opinion.
    ====================
    as she tells us everyday
    really not necessary.

  110. blake January 27th, 2011 at 11:25 am

    Yes hearing something written is a special skill.

  111. Crawdaddy January 27th, 2011 at 11:25 am

    “a better question would be for you to ask yourself who gives a rip what you think about betsy’s comments .”

    Old Man,

    I never expressed my thoughts about Betsy’s comments. Stick to your Cashman bashing, you’re better at that.

  112. filthy slider January 27th, 2011 at 11:26 am

    Hey Rosenberg, thank the baseball gods the Sox didn’t steal Bartolo Colon from us. Anybody
    that cheers the Sox getting good players is not, I repeat, NOT a Yankee fan. Stay in Boston you douchbag.

  113. JM January 27th, 2011 at 11:26 am

    I would rather have root canal than root for the Sux. Apologies to the dentist (s) among us. :)

  114. Betsy January 27th, 2011 at 11:27 am

    Randy, Craw actually was having my back……which I appreciate (and you too – thank you very much).

    Mick, it’s very much necessary as you would realize if you would read some of a certain poster’s posts to me.

  115. mick January 27th, 2011 at 11:27 am

    I do think that a GM of a team should be mature enough not to call people stupid for criticizing their handling of Joba or whomever, but at this point now it’s over and done with.
    ==================================================
    Again you have misread the message. Cash never said that.

  116. Crawdaddy January 27th, 2011 at 11:27 am

    “Randy, sometimes I wonder about your last comment, lol. I think some people would just prefer posters to parrot everyone else so there is complete agreement.”

    Betsy,

    Say what’s on your mind and Cashman and the rest of us will do the same. The same applies to even the Old Man.

  117. Betsy January 27th, 2011 at 11:28 am

    Also, it’s not just about me………….I think there is (from some, not close to all) a level of intolerance for people whose opinions vary from the majority).

  118. randy l. January 27th, 2011 at 11:29 am

    “Cashman is going to do and say what he wants and the only people he has to answer to is the Steinbrenners.”

    when yankee fans were up in arms about the state of yankee pitching, ownership rightly saw that the yankees were floundering with inaction as cashman couldn’t pull the trigger on a deal and they overruled him.

    i doubt very much that if there wouldn’t have been fan dissatisfaction this winter over the pitching that hall and hank would have acted with soriano.

    so to say that cashman is immune to what fans think is not accurate.

  119. blake January 27th, 2011 at 11:30 am

    JM,

    me too….they aren’t that bad anyway ;)

  120. Crawdaddy January 27th, 2011 at 11:30 am

    “Randy, Craw actually was having my back……which I appreciate (and you too – thank you very much).”

    Betsy,

    Right, I’m done arguing with people about their opinions. Everybody has the right to express themselves even Randy and WCYF.

  121. Betsy January 27th, 2011 at 11:30 am

    Craw, it’s not in my nature to hide, believe me. The more I’m told (not necessarily, but indirectly) that my opinions are wrong (there’s a difference between someone disagreeing and someone saying “you’re wrong” because “I’m right”), the more my back gets up. I don’t think anyone should be telling anyone (and especially on a blog/message board, where most people don’t know each other. This kind of thing is barely acceptable between friends, nevermind between strangers) how to think, what to post, etc…

  122. mick January 27th, 2011 at 11:31 am

    Mick, it’s very much necessary as you would realize if you would read some of a certain poster’s posts to me.
    =================
    Stop being the victim.
    The whole world isn’t against you.
    State your opinions and so be it.
    No need to be defensive unless you are just spouting without any basis of fact.

  123. Betsy January 27th, 2011 at 11:32 am

    Mick, I didn’t expect anything less from you. You’re not worth the time it takes for me to respond to you – you’ve been a miserable SOB to me for a long time now. Have an nice day, won’t you?

  124. mick January 27th, 2011 at 11:33 am

    Also, it’s not just about me………….I think there is (from some, not close to all) a level of intolerance for people whose opinions vary from the majority).
    ============================================
    Jeez, this is a free country. People say what they wish esp on a blog.
    Freedom of speech is an old concept, you didn’t invent it. Grow up.

  125. Betsy January 27th, 2011 at 11:33 am

    Craw, if they didn’t, these boards wouldn’t exist. The purpose of these places is to invite discussion……….if everyone agreed it would be pretty boring.

  126. sommerjd January 27th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    Nope. There has not “always” been a Yankees-Red Sox rivalry of this proportion. They stunk for a long time, and who cared about it south of Connecticut? The Yankee rivalry of note in the 90s run was Baltimore, who provided the strongest competition. The current state of rivalry was stoked by Lucchino’s “evil empire” stupidity, John Henry’s bottomless wallet, and Epstein’s apparent acumen as a G.M. plus the ESPNalization of the competition. Personally I don’t watch any of the Yankee-Red Sox games; I read about ‘em later on. They aren’t entertaining as they’ve become blood matches.

    Last season was sweet because the Red Sox missed the playoffs altogether. This season will be sweet in that same way should it come to pass (seems unlikely as Tampa has regressed). In fact, the pleasure of watching their expectations unravel (e.g. Beckett does not bounce back; Buccholz regresses; Lackey continue to Lack; Dice K continues to throw 100-pitch 5 inning outings; Papelboy continues to slide and makes unpleasant noises while doing so; Adrian G struggles; Crawford’s OBP slides to an even .300; Pedie boy swings hard but still can’t match Cano; their newly-bought bullpen imitates Farnsworth-Karsay; and they discover you do have to have a major league catcher in the lineup) almost matches the joy of watching the Yankees succeed.

    1998′s the model to shoot for, not 2003…

  127. mick January 27th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    Mick, I didn’t expect anything less from you. You’re not worth the time it takes for me to respond to you – you’ve been a miserable SOB to me for a long time now.
    ====================
    Playing the victim again?
    You invite it. If you want to be Ms. Honest then expect it back.

  128. Betsy January 27th, 2011 at 11:35 am

    LOL I’m the one who needs to grow up? Go lecture your great grandkids……..better yet, don’t lecture anyone. If you’re anything in person like you are on the blog, whomever you talk to undoubtedly starts tuning you out the moment you open your mouth. There, that’s it. If you want to blather on about me, go right ahead

  129. Crawdaddy January 27th, 2011 at 11:35 am

    “so to say that cashman is immune to what fans think is not accurate.”

    If you say so, but what fans think is not what the Steinbrenners are going to judge him by. It’s his ability to field a winning team that has distinct playoff success and that supplys a yearly influx of young players while being more efficient economically-wise on how he runs the baseball business.

  130. West Coast Yankee Fan January 27th, 2011 at 11:35 am

    Here you go Betsy, I am in a generous mood this morning so I will gallantly offer myself up as a pin cushion to give you a chance to take a breath. ;)

  131. blake January 27th, 2011 at 11:36 am

    Randy,

    Have you seen Sanchez in person? If so, thoughts on him?

  132. hardwired7 January 27th, 2011 at 11:37 am

    Here’s what Law had to say about Romine:

    “He can throw and hit for power, but has struggled with basic receiving tasks every time I’ve seen him in the past six months, something I’ve confirmed with other pro scouts. And I’m not sold on the hit tool.”

    I’m sure this will make KLaw even more of a board favorite. Fwiw, I once made a comment on one of his articles that he was displaying the typical ESPN anti-NY/pro-Boston bias when it comes to valuing the prospects and rating the franchises.

    He responded by claiming he grew up a Yankee fan, so why would he have an anti-Yankee bias?

  133. Tom in N.J. January 27th, 2011 at 11:37 am

    I’m still waiting for a plow.

    :mad:

  134. Crawdaddy January 27th, 2011 at 11:37 am

    “Craw, if they didn’t, these boards wouldn’t exist. The purpose of these places is to invite discussion……….if everyone agreed it would be pretty boring.”

    Right, but at this time in my life, I just don’t have the time to carry on long discussions regarding the difference of opinions. I like to talk baseball, but I want to enjoy the discussions too.

  135. Betsy January 27th, 2011 at 11:39 am

    WC, no more pin cushions…………I’m all happy and relaxed now. Why continue to argue?

    Tom, me too, lol

  136. mick January 27th, 2011 at 11:39 am

    If you’re anything in person like you are on the blog, whomever you talk to undoubtedly starts tuning you out the moment you open your mouth.
    ===================================
    At least I have the sense to shut my mouth once in a while. The only relief we get in here is when you take your week long sabbaticals, but unfortunately always come back.
    Nobody misses your incessant blabber and most would prefer you to move along to the next blog where you undoubtedly ramble on about the same 2 theories you have about Phil Hughes.

  137. Betsy January 27th, 2011 at 11:39 am

    Craw, I was agreeing with you, but I guess I didn’t make that clear. There are lots of other things I’d rather talk about than personal rights on a blog, lol

  138. JM January 27th, 2011 at 11:42 am

    # blake January 27th, 2011 at 11:30 am

    JM,

    me too….they aren’t that bad anyway ;)
    ____________________

    Indeed. Not nearly as scary as rooting for Big Papi.

  139. randy l. January 27th, 2011 at 11:43 am

    “If you say so, but what fans think is not what the Steinbrenners are going to judge him by”

    crawdaddy-

    you think hank and hal all by themselves decided that yankee pitching was deficient and needed soriano as a shot in the arm ?

    you don’t think that they noticed that fans were up in arms over the lack of pitching?

    and what’s wrong with the collective wisdom of fans anyway?

    i think there’s some wisdom in it.

  140. SJ44 January 27th, 2011 at 11:44 am

    I’ve seen Gary Sanchez in person.

    I posted last year after I saw him that he was the best 17 year old catching prospect I had ever seen.

    Great hands, strong arm, moves really well back there for a kid who hasn’t had a ton of formal coaching.

    At the plate? A natural hitter.

    I think back to when my nephew was 17 (5 years ago), and wasn’t nearly A’s polished at that age A’s Gary.

    If he stays healthy, humble, and continues to work hard, he’s going to be a stud in the very near future.

  141. West Coast Yankee Fan January 27th, 2011 at 11:45 am

    I was just kidding Betsy to add some levity, it’s just a sports blog, something I know you realize.

  142. Erica in NY January 27th, 2011 at 11:48 am

    We need a change of topic-

    Blog Poll:

    Will I get in trouble at work tomorrow for my choice to work from home today?

  143. G. Love January 27th, 2011 at 11:49 am

    Yair,

    Good post. While I want to see all the Red Sox drown in a pool of their own vomit, I do enjoy the rivalry a great deal.

    However, I never could bring myself to root for them to reload. I really wanted Theo to keep promoting his prospects and watch us destroy the overhyped Gammons/Law/NESPN gumdrops we’ve been hearing about all these years.

    I wanted to watch Lars Andersen flame out at the big league level.

    I wanted to watch us bash Casey Kelly all over the park.

    I wanted to see the Red Sox fans turn on the vaunted prospects in a such an ugly fashion the team would need to hire security guards to protect them from drunken chowdah-heads.

    Now that they’ve reloaded and the media thinks they walk on water there is nothing I want to see more this season than our Yankees slap them around the field.

    I want to see Russell Martin smack Varitek in the face at homeplate. I want to see Montero take Bard 600 feet.

    I love the rivarly and I definitely get up for it. When I have writing deadlines that coincide with a Red Sox/Yankees series my deadlines go out the window. It’s can’t miss for me.

    I could never root for the Red Sox to get better. That said, I’m glad we have them and I can’t wait to make Peter Gammons cry this season.

  144. blake January 27th, 2011 at 11:50 am

    SJ,

    Thanks. I’ve just seen a few swings on clips and the swing is very nice….great balance and extension. Looks like he could create some backspin. Exciting.

  145. Betsy January 27th, 2011 at 11:50 am

    WC, oh, lol -sorry!

  146. SJ44 January 27th, 2011 at 11:51 am

    A’s far A’s Keith’s assessment of Romine, he’s right.

    He has struggled receiving the ball.

    He’s a good athlete, moves well behind the plate, and has a good arm.

    Catching the ball consistently has been a problem.

    His bat? Have to see more to adequately judge him.

    If you are an elite defensive catcher, you can get by with less of a hit tool.

    If you aren’t, your hit tool has to be above average.

    He has enough tools to keep working with him, IMO.

    This year will be an important year in his development.

  147. Doreen January 27th, 2011 at 11:51 am

    randy l -

    You don’t think that as an organization they discussed all the pitchers available, that they discussed Cashman’s attempts with other teams? You don’t think the fact that there was nothing else available, starting wise, that compared to Lee, didn’t perhaps lead the organization to discuss alternatives such as bolstering the bullpen?

    I don’t think it was the inactivity. I think it was going with an alternative. The split with Cashman was over whether they should lose the draft pick and spend that much money for an EIG.

    And I don’t believe the fans being up in arms had anything to do with it. I think they didn’t want to chance losing out on Soriano by waiting to see if Cashman could work something else. I think they decided it was worth whatever risk to go with the best on the market and not waste anymore time. And I think they were probably impatient enough among themselves that they didn’t have to look to the fans.

    Heaven help is if they start listening to the fans.

  148. Tom in N.J. January 27th, 2011 at 11:52 am

    “Will I get in trouble at work tomorrow for my choice to work from home today?”

    No.

    I just put a Podcast of a lecture up for the class I was scheduled to teach in a half an hour.

    Plus, online questions!

  149. mick January 27th, 2011 at 11:54 am

    The reason rs nation is bored is that they no longer are the wonderful underdog they once were. They have become the exact thing they hated, The Yankees.
    They think they are us. Reminds me of a movie called Desperately Seeking Susan.
    Their fans walked out on them last season when they realized they had no shot.
    Like some on here , they are just immature, they will grow up eventually, maybe.

  150. Doreen January 27th, 2011 at 11:55 am

    SJ44 -

    How much of Romine’s hitting was affected by playing in Trenton? Do you think perhaps his catching woes followed him to his at-bats?

  151. SJ44 January 27th, 2011 at 11:55 am

    GLove,

    Thank declining TV and radio ratings and sales and merchandise slippage for them putting on their big boy pants.

    You also saw ownership there overrule their GM and overpay for Carl Crawford.

    Excessive prospect hugging is great…….until the bottom line gets affected.

    Then, it’s time to write checks.

    Will it work? Time will tell.

  152. randy l. January 27th, 2011 at 11:57 am

    “Have you seen Sanchez in person? If so, thoughts on him?”

    blake-

    no i haven’t. i’m packing for florida this morning and i hope to spend some time over at the yankee complex in tampa if i don’t get too hooked on playing golf the rest of the winter. if i go over to tampa i’ll for sure check out sanchez.

    his stats are pretty amazing for a 17 year old.

    i’ve long thought the catcher position should be a two player position with the two players dividing it up more than the traditional starter/ back up concept.

    with two catchers sharing time more equally, one catcher can do what the other can’t. lefty/righty hitting. throwing ability, overall defensive skills, etc can be mixed and matched. plus when you have a great hitting catcher, why beat him up all the time?

    i like the idea of the strong hitting catcher dh-ing on non-catching days.

    if you have two good catchers when one goes down like posada did, the switch to the other isn’t a drastic fall off.

    so gary sanchez and jesus montero could be avery nice tandem in my opinion.

  153. hardwired7 January 27th, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    Fortunately, Romine will have Tony Pena to help w/the glove, and KLong to help w/the bat.

  154. SJ44 January 27th, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    I don’t know Doreen. That’s a good question.

    I know jitters get frustrated in that park because the ball doesn’t carry at all.

    It can definitely be frustrating to make solid contact and not have the ball travel.

    Randy,

    The fans had ZERO to do with them signing Soriano.

    Here is the nature of the “dispute”…..

    Cashman says, “You give me X number of dollars for payroll. I don’t think it’s prudent to commit it to Soriano for the role he will have”.

    It wasn’t that he didn’t want the guy. He just didn’t feel comfortable using the money he’s allocated for him.

    Obviously (and I agree with them) ownership (and Girardi, FWIW) felt differently and they went in a different direction.

    Ownership isn’t mad at Cashman for an “inaction” in getting a starting pitcher. There is crap on the market right now.

    In the end, what this “dispute” will get up doing is make the Yankees a better team AND give Cashman the ammo to get ownership to raise payroll if the right guy becomes available.

    To me, it’s a win win situation made possible by Hal running the team in a way that promotes healthy dissent.

  155. randy l. January 27th, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    “And I don’t believe the fans being up in arms had anything to do with it.”

    doreen-

    i think it’s entirely possible that hank would be in his favorite breakfast place on dale maybry and while standing outside smoking a cigarette he’d hear fans saying the yankees had no pitching and they were doing nothing to keep up with the red sox.

    .. and then hank called hal and said we need some “bleeping pitchers”.

    i don’t think hank forms his opinions in meetings.

  156. West Coast Yankee Fan January 27th, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    No successful business organization would not listen to their customers, and Yankee fans are the Yankees customers. That doesn’t mean you necessarily act on anything you hear, but you do listen and it’s bound to effect you in some manner.

    It defies credulity to me to think that Hal and hank didn’t hear the groundswell of angst coming from Yankee fans over the rotation and improving the team this winter. I believe their overruling of Cashman on Soraino was influenced in part by this.

  157. randy l. January 27th, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    “The fans had ZERO to do with them signing Soriano.”

    sj44-

    i couldn’t disagree more.

    the pressure was building from the moment that cliff lee signed with philly. that was a punch to the gut of the yankees.

    fan pressure was building and peaking at the time of the soriano signing. i’m sure randy levine was hearing it from fans everywhere in new york. i agree it’s crazy he got involved but he did.

    when randy levine and hank steinbrenner start commenting on player personnel , you’re not going to convince me that all is so organized in yankee management.

    i don’t think ownership is mad at cashman. i just think they have decided to step in more than they were doing because there was such a fan backlash against yankee inactivity over the winter.

  158. SJ44 January 27th, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    Oh please, that is ridiculous.

    If they listened to the fans, they would have a 300 million dollar payroll and cater to every fan whim.

    The Yankees have already sold 3.2 million tickets for this season.

    They have had record ad sales on YES for this season.

    There is a waiting list for signage and suites in the new stadium.

    I hate to burst your bubble but they aren’t making personnel decisions based on fan desires.

    They don’t have to. They are printing money doing it their way.

  159. SJ44 January 27th, 2011 at 12:22 pm

    Randy,

    Joe Girardi, not Randy Levine, was the “deciding vote” if you will, on getting Soriano.

    Joe convinced Hal he could make it work and why they should make the move.

    It was not “fan unhappiness”.

    Yankee fans, at least a segment of them, are ALWAYS unhappy.

    It’s just not a factor in their decisionmaking.

    Hal, and Hank for that matter, saw George cater to fan whims in the past and it’s not how they run the business.

    It’s why you don’t see the turnover you used to see in the past in the organization.

    These guys make cold, analytical business decisions and keep the emotions out of it.

  160. West Coast Yankee Fan January 27th, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    The point is Hank and Hal cannot help but hear what the fans are saying and their voices were quite loud this off-season. Again, there may not be a direct and traceable quid-pro-quo between fan reaction and ownership action. But to say they don’t hear what’s out there is just not credible.

    No savvy business owner would not listen to his customers.

  161. Leper January 27th, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    Another asinine pinch hitter post.

    Absolute waste of bandwidth.

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