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Report: Orioles in lead for Duchscherer

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 30, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Ken Rosenthal is hearing that the Orioles are in the lead for Justin Duchscherer. Jerry Crasnick adds that Duchscherer is choosing from four different teams.

Rosenthal reports that Duchscherer has at least one Major League offer, and it might have come from Baltimore.

Just like pretty much every starting pitcher still on the market, Duchscherer has been linked to the Yankees in various reports. He’s in that group of available starters — Kevin Millwood, Freddy Garcia, Jeremy Bonderman, etc. — who could give the Yankees another option at the back of the rotation.

Brian Cashman has said that just because he hasn’t signed one of those guys yet, doesn’t necessarily mean he’s out of the market.

 
 

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49 Responses to “Report: Orioles in lead for Duchscherer”

  1. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 30th, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    As much as I’d like to give Justin Duchscherer a try, I will be thrilled for the Orioles if they get him. I want the Orioles to have a worthy team, and it certainly seems they have been going in the right direction. We saw the difference Buck Showalter made in actually getting those current players to work well. Good for the Orioles. I hope they get Vlad too, and I hope he kicks major butt for them.

    I want nothing but the best for every team in the majors, and every team in the AL East except for the Sux.

  2. Crawdaddy January 30th, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    I could give a rat’s butt for the Orioles or any other team in the AL East. The weaker they are, the better the Yankees chances are in getting in the playoffs.

  3. Against All Odds January 30th, 2011 at 3:29 pm

    # Against All Odds January 30th, 2011 at 3:22 pm

    # Stoneburner January 30th, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    Against All Odds January 30th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
    # RhapsodyInBlue January 30th, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    A trip down memory lane with Lupica.

    http://assets.nydailynews.com/…..e_1211.jpg

    ———————————-

    Lupica is such a joke.
    _________

    The real great thing is that he gets all high and mighty of PEDS – yet the moron wrote a book about the Summer of 1998 and McGwire’s and Sosa’s pursuit. That he had no idea what was going on at the time – and any good journalist or columnist with half a brain should have at least seen the warning signs – shows that the man is really incompetent and a revisionist hypocrite. He should give back all the proceeds he received from writing that book – which would be about $13.12 – or something along those lines.

    ——————————————-

    Lupica along with his other journalists all played the idk game when the PED stuff hit the fan. No I’m not saying they should have recklessly accused players because that would have been foolish but given the access that they had you mean to tell me none of them had a clue and now they want to play judge, jury, and executioner when it comes to the HOF.

  4. MTU January 30th, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    When healthy the Duke has shown himself to be a very effective pitcher.

    He is also versatile being capable of starting or pitching out of the pen.

    That said, he has not been healthy and what the Yankees are sure to need if AP does not return is someone who is capable of eating innings.

    JD may not be such a person. He has not pitched more than 140 innings and that was some time ago. With that in mind, someone like Millwood makes more sense. He may not be great but he can eat innings.

    Not only that but the Duke has said he wants to start. Maybe the Yankees would feel more comfortable with him as a swingman.

    Maybe there just isn’t s fit.

    I do like the guy though. I have to admit.

  5. Unnamedsource January 30th, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    The team roster posted at the official website of the SWB Yankees as of 3:25 p.m. on 1/30/2011 contains some puzzling information. If you look at the far right column of the roster, you will see that eleven players are indicated to be simultaneously on the SWB minor league roster and on the New York Yankees 40-man major league roster. I think most Yankee fans know that this is an impossibility in the off-season since neither optional assignments nor injury rehab assignments exist in the off-season.

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....8;sid=t531

    The players in question in this particular instance are Brian Anderson, Buddy Carlyle, Bartolo Colon, Neal Cotts, Kei Igawa, Warner Madrigal, Mark Prior, Andy Sisco, Gustavo Molina, Doug Bernier, and Jorge Vazquez.

    If you replace the number “531″ with the numbers “567,” “587,” and “233″ in the link above, you will be able to view the official rosters of the Trenton Thunder, the Tampa (High A) Yankees, and the Charleston Riverdogs, respectively. Collectively, the latter three rosters add the names “Ben Watkins,” “Shaeffer Hall,” “Trent Lockwood,” and “Hector Rabargo” to the list of players who seem to be performing some rather remarkable roster gymnastics.

    Anyone care to guess what, if anything, the websites are trying to tell us? Is it perhaps a partial list of minor league players invited to major league spring training? Of course, the Yankees official website contains such a list already with some but not all of the fifteen players named in this post. If my guess is correct, it must be a partial list because, you will notice, the Yes/No toggle on the rosters for Montero, Banuelos, and Romine, to name three, are still set to “No.” I am surprised that Watkins and Lockwood would get an invitation to spring camp this year, but I am happy for them if that is what it means.

    Just think how much fun we would have on this and other blogs if we had to speculate how the Yankee front office would clear fifteen spaces on the 40-man roster!

  6. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 30th, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    Craw, I would think that your position is a lot more universal than mine.

    :)

    I’ve always felt guilty that the Yankees had money to buy whatever they wanted but most of the other teams in the majors really couldn’t brag of the same thing. Revenue sharing definitely helps, if organizations use it for the purpose they should, but they still don’t end up with the resources to get whatever player they want and to build an entire team that way, the way the Yankees can.

    So my sense of fair play is to feel good for teams who can strengthen their teams with decent players. I will always draw my line with the Sux. Actually, I don’t give a rat’s ass what they do. I will always take the Yankees over them anyway.

  7. Stoneburner January 30th, 2011 at 3:38 pm

    Any potential investor/investor group is going to want an equal part of the pie – the Wilpons will have a hard time just selling 20-25% – plus they came off as desperate with their “public” announcement on Friday – very little leverage

  8. BIG AL January 30th, 2011 at 3:40 pm

    As a back of the rotation guy, at this point, my choice would be Freddy Garcia. Even if AP came back, he’d be good insurance to have for this year.

  9. Stoneburner January 30th, 2011 at 3:40 pm

    Against All Odds January 30th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
    # Stoneburner January 30th, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    Against All Odds January 30th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
    # RhapsodyInBlue January 30th, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    A trip down memory lane with Lupica.

    http://assets.nydailynews.com/…..e_1211.jpg

    ———————————-

    Lupica is such a joke.
    _________

    The real great thing is that he gets all high and mighty of PEDS – yet the moron wrote a book about the Summer of 1998 and McGwire’s and Sosa’s pursuit. That he had no idea what was going on at the time – and any good journalist or columnist with half a brain should have at least seen the warning signs – shows that the man is really incompetent and a revisionist hypocrite. He should give back all the proceeds he received from writing that book – which would be about $13.12 – or something along those lines.

    ——————————————-

    Lupica along with his other journalists all played the idk game when the PED stuff hit the fan. No I’m not saying they should have recklessly accused players because that would have been foolish but given the access that they had you mean to tell me none of them had a clue and now they want to play judge, jury, and executioner when it comes to the HOF.

    ___________

    Agree – but I go further – the guy is in the newspaper business – idk – part of the job is finding the truth or reporting on a story – the guy – along with all these other revisionist moralists now just did not do their job. They cannot now act all shocked and outrage – I mean come on – Luis Gonzales – 50 plus homeruns.

    And here is the thing about it – especially for Lupica – you needed to at least suspect it – or else you were a complete idiot – so DO NOT write a book about the Summer of 1998 praising the homerun chase – he should have refrained from writing that book/project.

  10. BIG AL January 30th, 2011 at 3:43 pm

    No fair play rules, winning is all that counts in pro sports, and the weaker the competition, the better.

    This is not to say I don’t enjoy good games, and good competition, so long as the final score is in the Yankees favor.

  11. Stoneburner January 30th, 2011 at 3:44 pm

    Looks like Garcia had five terrible starts last year – out of 28 GS – another one is a short abbreviated one but the R/ERs were not crazy like some other. I am on board with Garcia – recent article on ESPN Deportes seems to indicate that he wants to be a Yankees – I am fine with him in there to start in April

  12. BIG AL January 30th, 2011 at 3:44 pm

    It’s 68 and sunny, I’m going to go out and enjoy this fine weather, later.

  13. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 30th, 2011 at 3:45 pm

    “Having met, and spoken with both, I’ll say my opimion is Phil is, and was a very mature young man, and Joba acted like a 16 year old would. I could be wrong, given my limited exposure to Joba, but, just the impression I received”

    Big Al, I was in the middle of responding to this in the other thread and my computer shut down on me. (Battery needed recharging, I didn’t realize the plug had come out of the wall.) I just get the feeling that your impressions are right on. Joba seems like a big kid, still with a lot of innocence and naivete, while Phil always gave me the impression that he was mature beyond his years. I would listen to his postgames when he first came up and I was blown away by his poise, wisdom and maturity. Amazed really.

  14. MTU January 30th, 2011 at 3:46 pm

    Al-

    Just curious. Why would you prefer Garcia to Millwood ?

    I think I know but I’d just like to hear from you.

  15. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 30th, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    Big Al, I’ve never been able to get there (no fair play rules). It’s just not in my nature I’m afraid. That’s why I have such difficulty with other nuances such as poor umpire calling, etc.

  16. BIG AL January 30th, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    trisha -

    So true, my feelings exactly.

    Catch you’al later.

  17. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 30th, 2011 at 3:50 pm

    Well I’m getting ready to watch something on television that I haven’t tuned into for a real long time – men’s figure skating.

    Have a great day y’all.

    MTU, by the way, you rock.

    :)

  18. MTU January 30th, 2011 at 3:52 pm

    Trisha-

    You got that wrong. I climb rocks.

    Thanks. you do to.

    Enjoy your day.

    :)

  19. Against All Odds January 30th, 2011 at 3:54 pm

    # Stoneburner January 30th, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    Any potential investor/investor group is going to want an equal part of the pie – the Wilpons will have a hard time just selling 20-25% – plus they came off as desperate with their “public” announcement on Friday – very little leverage

    ————————————–

    If you chart the Mets from Beltran taking strike 3 on a Wainwright curveball to the conference call on Friday it’s amazing how they have fallen. You couldn’t sell the script to Hollywood

  20. Against All Odds January 30th, 2011 at 3:55 pm

    # Against All Odds January 30th, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    # Stoneburner January 30th, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    Against All Odds January 30th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
    # Stoneburner January 30th, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    Against All Odds January 30th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
    # RhapsodyInBlue January 30th, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    A trip down memory lane with Lupica.

    http://assets.nydailynews.com/…..e_1211.jpg

    ———————————-

    Lupica is such a joke.
    _________

    The real great thing is that he gets all high and mighty of PEDS – yet the moron wrote a book about the Summer of 1998 and McGwire’s and Sosa’s pursuit. That he had no idea what was going on at the time – and any good journalist or columnist with half a brain should have at least seen the warning signs – shows that the man is really incompetent and a revisionist hypocrite. He should give back all the proceeds he received from writing that book – which would be about $13.12 – or something along those lines.

    ——————————————-

    Lupica along with his other journalists all played the idk game when the PED stuff hit the fan. No I’m not saying they should have recklessly accused players because that would have been foolish but given the access that they had you mean to tell me none of them had a clue and now they want to play judge, jury, and executioner when it comes to the HOF.

    ___________

    Agree – but I go further – the guy is in the newspaper business – idk – part of the job is finding the truth or reporting on a story – the guy – along with all these other revisionist moralists now just did not do their job. They cannot now act all shocked and outrage – I mean come on – Luis Gonzales – 50 plus homeruns.

    And here is the thing about it – especially for Lupica – you needed to at least suspect it – or else you were a complete idiot – so DO NOT write a book about the Summer of 1998 praising the homerun chase – he should have refrained from writing that book/project.

    —————————————

    Exactly they all pat themselves on the back when it comes to digging for the truth but yet none of them knew something was going on. I remember watching Canseco when he joined the Yankees being interviewed for Fox 5 in the dugout . As he sat there answering questions I couldn’t help but think how jacked up he was on steroids. During the 2000s how many commentators would make jokes or state that the balls are juiced as well as the players. SMH

  21. MTU January 30th, 2011 at 3:57 pm

    Looks like the Duke is getting ready to come off the board.

    From Rumor central it appears to be between the O’s, Nats, and Mariners.

    It says the Duke has at least 2 MLB offers.

    Cashman. I sure hope you know what you’re doing.

  22. Betsy January 30th, 2011 at 4:01 pm

    I don’t get it, MTU………..

  23. MTU January 30th, 2011 at 4:03 pm

    Betsy-

    I would seem to make sense to grab one of these guys on the cheap as extra insurance.

  24. MTU January 30th, 2011 at 4:03 pm

    edit: “it”

  25. Stoneburner January 30th, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    Against All Odds January 30th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
    # Stoneburner January 30th, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    Any potential investor/investor group is going to want an equal part of the pie – the Wilpons will have a hard time just selling 20-25% – plus they came off as desperate with their “public” announcement on Friday – very little leverage

    ————————————–

    If you chart the Mets from Beltran taking strike 3 on a Wainwright curveball to the conference call on Friday it’s amazing how they have fallen. You couldn’t sell the script to Hollywood
    _________________

    Exactly – it has been one domino after domino falling to the point where they are now facing oblivion – unstable ownership, barren farm system, a questionable manager, an ace that is out until at least June, the rise of the Phillies, etc.

    Here is an article on exactly what you just said:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/spo....._mets.html

  26. Stoneburner January 30th, 2011 at 4:08 pm

    Betsy January 30th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
    I don’t get it, MTU………..

    Everyone will get it probably around June/July when the Yanks make a trade for a better pitcher.

  27. MTU January 30th, 2011 at 4:08 pm

    Betsy-

    You’d almost have to think that Cashman KNOWS that AP is coming back but just hasn’t been able to announce it yet.

    I can’t believe he would just be rolling the dice again after what happened with Lee.

    If he waits till the start of ST for AP I would think that all of these guys will be off the board and he will be forced to go with the kids, or Mitre.

    Maybe he is comfortable with that option too ?

  28. MTU January 30th, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    Stoneburner-

    Is it your position that it is OK to go with our internal options until that time ?

    From your post it would seem so.

  29. Stoneburner January 30th, 2011 at 4:12 pm

    MTU January 30th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
    Stoneburner-

    Is it your position that it is OK to go with our internal options until that time ?

    From your post it would seem so.

    It is my opinion at this point I am not seeing Duchscherer as any real differently than other internal options or Freddy Garcia options. Only real difference makers at this point are Andy or some other pitcher who becomes available in June/July.

  30. Betsy January 30th, 2011 at 4:13 pm

    Stoneburner, the Yankees will be held hostage at the deadline……….there may be better pitchers available (or not), but it’s not like there are going to special pitchers available, none worth trading the farm for. It’s a dangerous game to play, hoping the Yankees can stay withing spitting distance with a rotation such as we have.

  31. MTU January 30th, 2011 at 4:13 pm

    SB-

    What happens if we crap out on AP ?

    Or are you convinced he’s coming back ?

  32. Stoneburner January 30th, 2011 at 4:14 pm

    In April/May/June:

    Offense will have to carry us

    Rely on C.C., Phil, hope for April/mid-May 2010 A.J. PLUS Pen

    until trade reinforcements or Andy decides to return

  33. Against All Odds January 30th, 2011 at 4:14 pm

    Stoneburner -

    Thanks for the article. It’s even worse seeing it in print lol

  34. Stoneburner January 30th, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    MTU January 30th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
    SB-

    What happens if we crap out on AP ?

    Or are you convinced he’s coming back ?

    MTU -

    I am in the camp that I think this Clemens’ trial is really weighing on him – and it should – he is the star witness.

    I do think there will be trade options come summer and I do not think this time – like with Dan Haren – the Yanks will be hesitant to pull the trigger b/c they are thinking budget in the offseason and pining for some offseason target (like was the case with Cliff Lee)

  35. West Coast Yankee Fan January 30th, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    Besty makes a good point about obtaining a pitcher mid-season, it’s certainly a risk and assumptions in baseball seem to have a way of not working out. A couple of years if was assumed Carl Crawford would be in a Yankee uniform after hitting free agency and this year it was Cliff Lee.

  36. Stoneburner January 30th, 2011 at 4:17 pm

    Against All Odds January 30th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
    Stoneburner -

    Thanks for the article. It’s even worse seeing it in print lol

    Against -

    It reads like a train wreck. And I really have nothing against the Mets per se – but to go back to the other thread about Yankees hater Mike Lupica – I know that he is a huge Mets fan – but an even BIGGER WILPON FAMILY advocate/friend – so this stuff is just killing him.

  37. MTU January 30th, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    Stoneburner-

    I don’t agree with that course of action at all.

    If that’s what you’re thinking we definitely need a fill in to eat some innings.

    I don’t think Mitre, Colon , or other kids can do that.

    We have a strong pen but I still don’t want to see it overused by the half.

  38. Stoneburner January 30th, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan January 30th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
    Besty makes a good point about obtaining a pitcher mid-season, it’s certainly a risk and assumptions in baseball seem to have a way of not working out. A couple of years if was assumed Carl Crawford would be in a Yankee uniform after hitting free agency and this year it was Cliff Lee.

    But that is the situation we are IN – and to cry about not getting Duchscherer just is not worth it at this point – he is not bringing us the division – none of the guys out there right now are except Andy – And there are no givens in life – sometimes you just have to roll the dice – and that is what we are doing – wait on Andy AND see what is available mid-season – even if we got Duchsherer that would still be the plan.

  39. Stoneburner January 30th, 2011 at 4:22 pm

    MTU January 30th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
    Stoneburner-

    I don’t agree with that course of action at all.

    If that’s what you’re thinking we definitely need a fill in to eat some innings.

    I don’t think Mitre, Colon , or other kids can do that.

    We have a strong pen but I still don’t want to see it overused by the half.

    First, if you are looking for pitchers to eat some innings – crying foul over Duchscherer is right – he just as much an injury risk as Colon

    Second, we really do not know what the other kids can do – Nova until his last two starts actually did provide that more than Javier Vazquez – who is a better pitcher than Duchscherer

    Third, the situation is what it is – the only way to provide any significant contributions at this point are to either wait for Andy OR make a trade mid-season – that is what it is – the ship sailed when we did not get Cliff Lee and decided not throw our hat in the ring for Garza or Greinke.

  40. Against All Odds January 30th, 2011 at 4:26 pm

    # Stoneburner January 30th, 2011 at 4:17 pm

    Against All Odds January 30th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
    Stoneburner -

    Thanks for the article. It’s even worse seeing it in print lol

    Against -

    It reads like a train wreck. And I really have nothing against the Mets per se – but to go back to the other thread about Yankees hater Mike Lupica – I know that he is a huge Mets fan – but an even BIGGER WILPON FAMILY advocate/friend – so this stuff is just killing him.

    ———————————–

    Well I don’t like the Mets at all but I can’t deny it’s pailnful watching them go through failure after failure for the past few seasons. You’re right about Luipca this stuff must be destroying him. As someone wrote on the MLB Yankee board

    “the column is supposed to be about the Wilpons and he spends 1/3 of it discussing the Yankee ownership situation, way to deflect Mike. Then he makes the guy trying to recoup the money sound like Torquemada. He wants the Gov’t steroid investigators canonized fior going after Clemens but how dare they go after the Wilpons. What a hypocrite.”

    He went out of his way to state how much of the Yankees Hank and Hal own. SMH why bring up Hank, Hal, and George they have nothing to do with what the Wilpons are going through.

  41. West Coast Yankee Fan January 30th, 2011 at 4:26 pm

    Stoneburner – it’s called a discussion no one is “crying” about anything. Right now our rotation is Sabathia, Hughes, Burnett, Nova and Mitre with no long man.

  42. MTU January 30th, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    Stoneburner-

    I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

    IMO guys like Garcia, or Millwood can eat innings more effectively, and they are cheap enough to jettison at the half if someone better
    becomes available.

    The money involved is a pittance. It’s cheap insurance.

  43. Against All Odds January 30th, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    Take care guys enjoy the rest of the day.

  44. Against All Odds January 30th, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    # West Coast Yankee Fan January 30th, 2011 at 4:26 pm

    Stoneburner – it’s called a discussion no one is “crying” about anything. Right now our rotation is Sabathia, Hughes, Burnett, Nova and Mitre with no long man.

    ————————

    Isn’t Joba the long man?

  45. West Coast Yankee Fan January 30th, 2011 at 4:31 pm

    I don’t think Joba is the long man, no. He’s a sixth – seventh inning relief pitcher.

  46. West Coast Yankee Fan January 30th, 2011 at 4:32 pm

    If Burnett gets knocked out in the second. Who is the guy that going to give you 4-5 innings?

  47. BIG AL January 30th, 2011 at 4:43 pm

    MTU -

    To get back to your question.

    I like Garcia over Millwood because Freddie is simply the better pitcher, ERA, W-L, WHIP, and I believe he has enough left in the tank to give us a good season. If we signed Garcia, and he gave us what he did last year, 12-6, this board would declare it a great signing, vs what Millwood’s done, and what I believe he would contribute. Heck, if Garcia gave us a 12-10 year, I’d be more than pleased.

    We all want AP back, but even if Andy returns, there’s no guarentee he’ll pitch as well as he did last year, or that he’ll be healthy all season. This is why I think a Garcia signing for the back of the rotation, as well as insurance, would be a positive. It also always either Mitre or Nova to be the long man in the BP.

  48. West Coast Yankee Fan January 30th, 2011 at 4:54 pm

    Duchscherer or Freddy Garcia with Nova to the long-man roll makes sense to me; both are low risk moves than won’t break the bank. Also worth noting that with our offense and the addition of Soriano, they don’t need to do any better than give us 5-6 innings and 4+ runs a game.

    If Andy returns, so much the better. Sabathia, Hughes, Pettitte, Burnett, Duchscherer or Garcia with Nova as the long man and Mitre providing insurance in case of injury.

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