Andy Pettitte retirement announcement
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 04, 2011 
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We are about to begin here at Yankee Stadium. Word is that Andy Pettitte just arrived and the press conference will begin in a few minutes. There are several additional chairs for special guests — looks like Bernie Williams will be one of them — and the media is overflowing. The room is full of Pettitte pictures.
UPDATE, 10:37 am: Brian Cashman, Joe Girardi and members of the clubhouse staff just walked in. And here comes Pettitte with his wife.
UPDATE, 10:42 am: Andy said he doesn’t want to use the word retired, because he still wants to work in some way, but “I feel like I’m done with baseball.”
UPDATE, 10:45 am: Andy feels healthy and strong, but he said his “heart’s not where it needs to be” to pitch another year.
UPDATE, 10:52 am: “That’s all I know. I’m a pitcher. That’s all I know how to do.”
UPDATE, 10:54 am: Andy said he can’t be 100 percent certain that he won’t want to pitch again, but he’s positive it won’t happen this year.
UPDATE, 11:00 am: Bernie Williams just walked in. Pretty funny. Andy made fun of him for being late.
UPDATE, 11:01 am: On whether the Roger Clemens trial impacted his decision: “I would never let that interfer with a life decision that I’m going to make for me and my family.” He said he has not been contacted about the trial and has not been thinking about it.
UPDATE, 11:17 am: Andy said he felt a “huge obligation” to come back when Cliff Lee signed in Philly, but he couldn’t bring himself to do it. Would he have come back if Lee had signed with the Yankees? “I don’t think it would have mattered,” he said.
UPDATE, 11:21 am: Andy called Jeter, Posada and Rivera before the retirement news went public. “I wanted them to hear it from me.”
That’s awesome that Bernie’s there.
This is beyond painful.
Ledger_Yankees Pictures of Andy hanging all over press conference room. He will be next to his wife, Laura.
I’m glad that he gets to go out on his own terms on a good season.
Be happy for the man. Must feel great for an athlete to leave the game on his terms. Good for Andy.
I think it’s a safe bet that I’ll cry when I watch this later.
yankeefem, without a question.
Laura – I Bleed Blue February 4th, 2011 at 10:36 am
I’m glad that he gets to go out on his own terms on a good season.
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That’s Yankee fan synergy right there.
Gee guys, I’m sorry. Help me out here… Which one of those players I listed in the previous thread was either not a Cashman move or not a bad move?
Thanks in advance for the help.
Ledger_Yankees Hella media http://yfrog.com/h8ilfkcj
Is Bernie retiring too?
(couldn’t help it)
Here’s Andy.
We’re happy for Andy, very very sad for us.
Wow, I’m guessing Heyman wasn’t expecting to be put on TV – nice sweater!
trisha – true pinstriped blue February 4th, 2011 at 10:37 am
yankeefem, without a question.
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trisha – true pinstriped blue February 4th, 2011 at 10:38 am
We?re happy for Andy, very very sad for us.
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exactly
I see Brian Cashman sitting in the front row at the presser. Why not? Not like he has anything else to do.
Maybe he can put on another Halloween costume and climb another building when this is done. But then it’s right back to sleep, young man!
If anyone wants to watch and isn’t near a tv go to mlb.com
I hope somebody has the balls to ask Pettitte about the Lee factor.
repost.
I’m a little older than the poster but I can relate to what he’s saying. Most of my adult life has been Yankees winning. I’m a second generation Yankee fan and read a lot about the history of the franchise but there is a certain sadness for me in knowing that there will soon be no remaining members of the teams that I rooted for growing up. I’m sure the generation before me felt the same things as Mantle and Ford were nearing the end and I’m sure the generation after me will as well. New magic will be created but it still doesn’t make me feel any better about the old magic going away……there is always something special about the players you watched when you were young, I’m sure the many many Mickey Mantle fans can relate to how the younger guys feel about Jeter, Rivera, Pettite, etc….
All that said….thanks for everything Andy, here is to someone taking your place and doing it as well and as classy as you always have.
Doesn’t sound like a guy with any regrets. Good for him.
I was hoping he’d break down and start crying hysterically. LOL!
Andy doesn’t seem the least bit troubled by this. Looks like the team Cashman has put together made it easy to leave.
Past time for a change.
Time flies by. So many great memories since 96. Made it worth suffering thru 79 -95
The guy doesn’t have to apologize for being tired of the grind. He’s earned the rest. YankeesMoron, Lee has nothing to do with it. But I guess if you were a mature adult, you would know that.
I really think the groin injury put the zap on his “desire” or whatever you want to call it.
He definitely earned his stripes. It was his time, apparently.
” Lee has nothing to do with it. But I guess if you were a mature adult, you would know that.”
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Jon Heyman has people close to Pettitte who say the Lee situation had EVERYTHING to do with it.
Why would he be troubled? He has 5 World Series Rings. What an idiotic comment.
I wish he had retired after the World Series or not at all. Andy has been one of my favorite Yankees for a long time, I’ve defending him on here against what seemed like 90% of the posters, but frankly I’m not feeling to0 sentimental right now.
called out brian on stalking him. haha.
Well if John Heyman said it, it must be gospel right?
“Jon Heyman has people close to Pettitte who say the Lee situation had EVERYTHING to do with it.”
What Heyman actually has is SPECULATION.
“I’m not going to pitch this season” ” I do not plan on pitching again”
Boom.
sounds like pettitte may be an option in 2012.
See–it’s all about spending time with his kids. Any other theories are bunk. But again, you have to be a parent to have some understanding of this.
Laura Pettitte looks a little surprised and upset that he brought up the possibility of coming back next year…remote as it might be.
“What Heyman actually has is SPECULATION.”
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Exactly how would you know that,
And now you’re hearing why Andy didn’t announce until right now. He truly didn’t know.
I don’t know what Heyman knows or doesn’t know. My opinion, which only matters to me, is that Andy would have pitched if we got Cliff Lee. Think about the kind of competitor he is. How would he not have wanted to pitch with Lee in the rotation? It’s common baseball sense IMO.
Stop feeding the troll
Mad respect to a guy who leaves on his terms and that is willing to walk away from 12+ million bucks if he knows he’s not 100% committed. Its always tough to watch guys retire with gas left in the tank .
“Well if John Heyman said it, it must be gospel right?”
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I don’t know about gospel, but I would imagine he has more information and is closer to the situation and to Pettitte than you are.
“Exactly how would you know that”
If for no other reason, because he’s changed his story. Heyman was the same guy supposedly locked in with people “close to Pettitte” that said he was likely to pitch. Wasn’t just specualtion, it was 2nd hand speculation.
Laura-
I’m not sure of that. I think the groin injury really made him reevaluate things.
Love the Andy remarks to Bernie. “Always strolling in late…” lol.
See–it’s all about spending time with his kids. Any other theories are bunk. But again, you have to be a parent to have some understanding of this.
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I’m not a parent but I buy that. We can say “Jeez, it’s only another 9 months, stick it out” etc. But then again those are 9 months that you’re never getting back in terms of spending it with your children.
Andy was just very clear that the trial did not impact his decision.I hope we’re spared that speculation in here every five minutes going forward.
Pettite: Clemens trial had no effect on his decision.
Bronx, I think you’re right about the recurring groin injury.
Guess I had the Clemens factor totally wrong.
What I hear is a guy who is close to 40 (I am 43) who all of a sudden is realizing his body does not react the way it used to and who does not want to make the commitment to get it where it needs to be at the expense of his family. He has nothing left to prove, so if that is a feeling he can’t overcome, then he is doing the right thing hanging them up.
yankeefeminista February 4th, 2011 at 10:59 am
Love the Andy remarks to Bernie. “Always strolling in late…” lol.
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” Heyman was the same guy supposedly locked in with people “close to Pettitte” that said he was likely to pitch. Wasn’t just specualtion, it was 2nd hand speculation….”
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Well, Mell, let’s see… If memory serves, Heyman first reported that about two weeks ago. Or as Pettitte called it, the time he “told his wife he WAS PITCHING.” … right???
He’ll be at ST 2012
You all should just ignore YankeesNmore he’s just a troll trying to get a rise out of you.
How can you not love this guy? Lord he’s the real deal.
Thought for the day …………
No feeding of trolls. Starve them out. Ignorance is the breakfast, lunch, and dinner specials.
“Heyman first reported that about two weeks ago. Or as Pettitte called it, the time he “told his wife he WAS PITCHING.” … right???”
Let’s say this is true. Was Cliff Lee on the Yankees two weeks ago when he told his wife he was going to pitch? If the “Lee situation” has “everything to do with his decision” why would he tell his wife he was going to pitch, knowing that Lee was not a Yankee?
Way to back yourself into a corner, Beavis.
J. Alfred Prufrock February 4th, 2011 at 11:03 am
He’ll be at ST 2012
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QFT. He clearly still has it in his blood.
So refreshing to hear Pettte speak….
Andy’s desire to pitch and then realization that his heart wasn’t in it came as he was packing his bags to LEAVE HOME. Lee had nothing to do with it. It was Pettitte thinking on the grind of the regular season, which is there regardless of who is on the team, and the idea of leaving home.
He is a millionaire with a great house, a wife, and kids. Honestly if I had just 1 million dollars I probably wouldn’t leave my home even if it was a studio apartment.
As a God person, I love hearing Andy giving credit to Him. I think it takes a lot for an athlete to give credit to God openly and with such sincerity. Mariano does it all the time.
Mell, try to follow along here… Who do you honestly believe is closer to this situation, you and me or Jon Heyman?
Apparently Lee wasn’t the deciding factor. Andy didn’t neglect working out for two months right after the end of the postseason because he was psychic and knew Lee wouldn’t be signing.
Try listening for once.
Available lefty starter, Barry Zito same type of pitcher changes speed and big curve ball
OK…The truth comes out, now. Blame Tino Martinez from Pettitte’s retirement.
Here’s the Cliff Lee question.
Yes Zito is the same kind of pitcher……as Kei Igawa.
There you go, troll. Does that answer your question?
” Heyman was the same guy supposedly locked in with people “close to Pettitte” that said he was likely to pitch. Wasn’t just specualtion, it was 2nd hand speculation.”
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This is the same Andy who said he “started working put at Christmas,” had been “working hard for the last two weeks” and was “ready to go to spring training”???
In fact, it had the opposite effect on him.
well from that i gather Lee has ‘a little’ to do with it. But hardly the whole reason.
Wow pretty cool, Andy started working out because the Yankees lost out on Cliff Lee and Andy felt like he owed the team.
straight from the horse’s mouth to the horse’s ass. Lee didn’t really have that much of a difference.
Yeah, he’s answered it. Lee didn’t factor in. In fact, it probably factored in the opposite way, his feeling more like he had to come back BECAUSE Lee didn’t sign.
Sounds like he would have done this sooner if they got Lee.
Available lefty starter, Barry Zito same type of pitcher changes speed and big curve ball
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Costs 65 milliom, under contract for 3 seasons, throws 85 mph. I’d pass on Zito. If he were only under contract for 1 season, then I’d take a shot, but 3 is tough to swallow. Unless you can get the giants to pay for seasons 2 and 3.
if Barry Zito were a option what would he cost them in players going
There you go, troll. Does that answer your question?
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Ya, it sure does… Pettitte hesitated, and then said over and over again he “doesn’t know” if getting Lee would have made a difference.
You guys are taking THAT answer, from a guy who knows the NY media, as some sort of vindication???
REALLY???!!!
Andy feeling like he should come back b/c Lee didn’t sign is typical Andy wanting to help, but he knows he would have been coming back for the wrong reason.
YankeesMoron-Who do you think knows more, John Heyman or Andy Pettitte?”
For those who are not astute and observant.
ANDY DIDN’T BOTHER WORKING OUT FOR TWO MONTHS AFTER THE END OF THE POSTSEASON BECAUSE HE FELT HE WAS DONE. HE KNEW THE YANKEES WERE COURTING CLIFF LEE. IF PLAYING WITH LEE WAS A DECIDING FACTOR HE WOULD HAVE BEEN WORKING OUT THE WHOLE TIME. HE DIDN’T START WORKING OUT UNTIL AFTER LEE WENT TO THE PHILS!
Lee not coming had nothing to do with his decision to retire.
Heyman’s press conference regarding Andy’s retirement should be coming up next right?
Finally we’ll know the truth.
Zito would get lit up against the AL East. Time to give the youngs guys a chance. Let Joba go back to the rotation.
Let Phelps, Warren or Noesi have a shot.
Heyman’s press conference regarding Andy’s retirement should be coming up next right?
Finally we’ll know the truth.
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Players only lie to the media during press conferences, but won’t lie to the media during private chats that will be tweeted publicly. Duh!
Somewhat surprised that Jeter, Rivera, Posada and Rodriguez weren’t at the press conference.
I have seen a lot of players retire. This one is sad as Andy was such a competitor. I loved watching him repeatedly get out of the bases loaded and one out without giving up a run. He was better with men on base. Others had better stuff, no one had more heart and guts.
Regarding Zito, he would help, but not to the tune of a $60M obligation. I would be shocked if they were involved in him.
blake February 4th, 2011 at 11:02 am
Pettite: Clemens trial had no effect on his decision
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this was one of the main reasons I thought was going to retire….could be a big distraction for him, but if Andy said it wasn’t then you have to believe him….
I think it sounded like to me that that groin injury really took its’ toll on him and a big part of his decision was his worry that something like that would happen again.
He clearly wasn’t 100% when he came back from it and just shows the competitor that he was that he was able to pitch so well in the postseason. He’s the pitching version of Oneil for me….for those that want to talk about grinders, here is one of the ultimate ones and he just didn’t want to do it if he wasn’t all it.
Quit feeding the idiot troll YankeesNMore. Dude is a worthless member of this blog and his postings do nothing but bring down its quality.
“YankeesMoron-Who do you think knows more, John Heyman or Andy Pettitte?”
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Pettitte. And his hesitation at the question and then repeatedly saying he “didn’t know” if it made a difference should have told EVERYBODY all they needed to know?
What did you expect Pettitte to say??? “Ya! If Lee was here, I’d be playing”?
Any of you guys ever have to deal with the media before???
If there is anybody out there who honestly believes that was Pettitte saying Lee didn’t make a difference, I would like to sell you the Brooklyn Bridge.
“all in”
rodg12-
You’re right. Not worthy of a response.
Andy said he honestly didn’t think Lee made any difference. HE DIDN’T WORK OUT FOR TWO MONTHS BECAUSE HE FELT HE WAS DONE. Andy is as honest and sincere as the day is long. He has values, integrity, and compassion. And intelligence.
Ovah.
Bob lorenz sounded a little choked up when speaking.
Joba_62 One of my role models and best pitchers to play baseball retires today. Thank u for everything Andy. I am going to miss u dearly!!
You guys need to rewind the TiVo to two questions.
1) did the Clemens trial impact this decision?
2) did not getting Cliff Lee impact this decision?
Look at the certainty in his Clemens answer and compare it to the hesitation and uncertainty in the Lee answer.
How that stark difference is lost on anybody is beyond me. People hearing what they want to hear, I guess.
I respect Andy in every way, and he did it his way. I am sadder than last night, and at the same time happy for him and his family. It is nice to see him go out as a healthy, together guy. I wish him every happiness.
There are people in every walk of life who feel that they cannot do with a certain person such as a President, a captain of industry, etc. No one is irreplaceable and as much as I will miss Andy the person, he will be replaced by a player who we can only hope will do himself proud. Andy only won 11 times last year due to his injury…hopefully we can get someone who can do that without too much trouble or messing will the future plan for our youngest pitchers.
He clearly wasn’t 100% when he came back from it and just shows the competitor that he was that he was able to pitch so well in the postseason.
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pitched a great game against Lee.certainly good enough to win.
EVERYONE here believes Pettitte was saying Lee didn’t make a difference. That’s because they all listened with an open mind. Since there is only one person who heard it differently, I am convinced that only one person here is absolutely wrong.
I was convinced Clemens was a big part of it. Andy said it wasn’t. Check it out. I believe him. I was wrong.
Just like you’re wrong.
I think the all the injuries last season took a toll on his psyche.
With time on his hands now I would really like to see Andy write a book about his Yankee years…
“People hearing what they want to hear, I guess.”
You’re the classic case here. Pettitte said he was pretty sure Lee didn’t factor in. That’s more no than yes. He said he didn’t start working out until AFTER Lee didn’t sign.
If you can’t connect the dots, that’s your problem. It takes a lot of hubris for you to decide you know more than Andy does.
It will be interesting to see how Lee does this year and in the years to come. Personally, I am not convinced that he will be spectacular in Philly or any place else.
Anyone know if yankees.com will be replaying this press conference?
Caught the tail end only – damn work interferring! (wish i was retiring)
Rich, I agree. He was seeing the residuals of having recurring groin injuries and the time he had to sit out. I’m sure he realized that age factored into the recovery time and that maybe the possibility of the groin coming back again and again was definitely there.
“EVERYONE here believes Pettitte was saying Lee didn’t make a difference. That’s because they all listened with an open mind.”
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These are the same people who came away penciling Pettitte into the 2012 rotation?
“open mind” indeed.
trisha – true pinstriped blue February 4th, 2011 at 11:31 am
EVERYONE here believes Pettitte was saying Lee didn’t make a difference. That’s because they all listened with an open mind.
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yea, & I think it’s beeyond mind.what’s genuine needs no filter or reasoning to explain to yourself when someone’s being honest.his words are coming from a place of personal truth & we know the truth when we hear it.
“pitched a great game against Lee.certainly good enough to win.”
sure did. He was just money.
margaret, I would think YES would be replaying it later in the day. They always replay things like that. They will probably also have the video up on their website later in the day.
trisha – true pinstriped blue February 4th, 2011 at 11:31 am
EVERYONE here believes Pettitte was saying Lee didn’t make a difference. That’s because they all listened with an open mind. Since there is only one person who heard it differently, I am convinced that only one person here is absolutely wrong.
I was convinced Clemens was a big part of it. Andy said it wasn’t. Check it out. I believe him. I was wrong.
Just like you’re wrong.
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You’re wrong less often than that turnio is, Trisha. Don’t pat yourself on the back, though. I make less typos than he is wrong.
So, it’s done.
I think one of the best comments on Andy was made on the last thread, about 10 AM, by Gary in Chevy Chase, about how his son holds his glove at eye level when he pitches. The beauty of baseball….
The Scott Kazmir idea is interesting, but only if the Yanks have some reason to believe he would/could be different in pinstripes. He does have an unfortunate injury history, and not much success lately.
often than that ***turnip***
” Pettitte said he was pretty sure Lee didn’t factor in.”
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Actually, what he SAID was, “I don’t think so.”
You heard him say he was “pretty sure.”
People hear what they want to hear.
See Heyman in the background?
What’s he wearing?
He looks like a priest.
I am lucky enough to have today off…watched on mlb and am recording on YES to watch later.
side note- why does anyone think they have the right to hijack the blog w/ their incessant whining…enough already…this is Andy’s day
RiverAveBlues Joe Girardi, Pettitte?s catcher and manager, is back behind the @YESNetwork mic: ?Everyone?s going to miss him.?
RiverAveBlues Girardi: ?Thing I?m going to remember most about Andy was the stare.?
jeez – quit the speculation. he’s retiring, end of story. the attention should not be on Cliff Lee (not a Yankee) or Roger Clemens (going to jail).
Today, you show your appreciation for a GREAT YANKEE who will be sorely missed.
Also, don’t feed the troll
One thing you could always count on, Andy with and without stuff always pitched his heart out and gave you a chance to win. Tough as nails.
Now Cowherd is taking a break from wall to wall football to let everyone know that the Yankees have no shot of taking down the Red Sox this year. “They are too old.”
I am taking names and the list is getting rather long, however, when the Sux flop and Game 1 of the ALDS comes rolling around in October with Cy Young 2011 CC on the mound I will make sure all these losers are reminded.
# margaret February 4th, 2011 at 11:36 am
Anyone know if yankees.com will be replaying this press conference?
Caught the tail end only – damn work interferring! (wish i was retiring)
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I’m guessing it will be up on YesNetwork.com or yankees.com sometime today. Also, it’s being rebroadcast on YES tonight at 10:30 ET.
Did you not hear the man?He said the he was putting pressure on himself when Lee wasn’t bagged.He said it.The guy fudged nothing he was talking from his heart.if you don’t know the difference between that and smoke you don’t have much to go on in life.now find something else to talk about.
That’s hilarious that Bernie came in late. LOL
I can’t wait to watch this later.
Were any current Yankees there?
Pettitte was such a game. Won many games while I was attending live in person on the road in visitors stadiums. Put a lot of faith in him and he always came through. The highest praise goes out to him.
Erin, none that they showed.
yankeefeminista February 4th, 2011 at 11:42 am
One thing you could always count on, Andy with and without stuff always pitched his heart out and gave you a chance to win. Tough as nails.
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A pitcher’s pitcher & a yankee’s yankee.
Definitely gonna miss Andy in pinstripes. He was a great Yankee. Wish he never went to Houston for that little vacation.
Erin, actually Andy and Laura were late too according to Bob Lorenz. They were stuck in traffic.
pat February 4th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Joba_62 One of my role models and best pitchers to play baseball retires today. Thank u for everything Andy. I am going to miss u dearly!!
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awwwww….
Two things I learned from the press conference:
1) I’m greedy because I didn’t want it to end, because it’s hard to let him go.
2) I never noticed it before, but his laugh is a lot like George Strait’s.
Andy, thanks for the memories and I’ll miss you dearly.
Cash–looking like he hasn’t slept in days. Better get back on that phone.
Yeah the Lee non-signing effected him.
He went from not wanting to come back to maybe possibly wanting to come back as he knew he was needed.
What he “didn’t know” is if Lee had signed would it have had the same effect.
J. Alfred Prufrock February 4th, 2011 at 11:48 am
yankeefeminista February 4th, 2011 at 11:42 am
One thing you could always count on, Andy with and without stuff always pitched his heart out and gave you a chance to win. Tough as nails.
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A pitcher’s pitcher & a yankee’s yank
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Yep, still somehow can’t believe it. I feel overwhelmed and flooded with memories. We will also sorely miss him off the field, influencing the guys in the clubhouse.
Well,thank goodness Randy Levine wasn’t on the loose on this day.He probably would have said “Andy’s just a ballplayer.”
Chamberlain needs to take a few chapters out of the Pettitte book of pitching and really bust his hump to get and stay in shape and learn maturity and grow into his talent. That’s the best tribute that he can give to Pettitte.
The Red Sox are just as old as the Yankees are with more history of injury risks.
# UnKnown February 4th, 2011 at 11:44 am
Now Cowherd is taking a break from wall to wall football to let everyone know that the Yankees have no shot of taking down the Red Sox this year. “They are too old.”
I am taking names and the list is getting rather long, however, when the Sux flop and Game 1 of the ALDS comes rolling around in October with Cy Young 2011 CC on the mound I will make sure all these losers are reminded.
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You forgot “The Red Sox are young”
GreenBeret7 February 4th, 2011 at 11:46 am
Erin, none that they showed.
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That’s surprising. I was sure some of them would be there.
Fran the original February 4th, 2011 at 11:48 am
Erin, actually Andy and Laura were late too according to Bob Lorenz. They were stuck in traffic.
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at least they knew they couldn’t start without them.
Yep, still somehow can’t believe it. I feel overwhelmed and flooded with memories. We will also sorely miss him off the field, influencing the guys in the clubhouse.
, which would obviously be better).
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yankfem – I think he’ll stay close by.he’ll be there to support the guys he’s been to war with & maybe he’ll be around next ST to help out (if he doesn’t decide to make a comeback, that is
Now Cowherd is taking a break from wall to wall football to let everyone know that the Yankees have no shot of taking down the Red Sox this year.
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Now if only he’d take a break from broadcasting. He has always gotten on my nerves, he just seems kind of a weasel; talks big until confronted.
Erin, I too thought that Jeter, Rodriguez, Rivera and Posada would be there.
Erin February 4th, 2011 at 11:52 am
GreenBeret7 February 4th, 2011 at 11:46 am
Erin, none that they showed.
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That’s surprising. I was sure some of them would be there.
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Probably they were all in Tampa. Everyone sent heartfelt text messages.
To those who see vindication in the Cliff Lee answer, consider this:
When asked about pitching again, Pettitte did not hesitate to say, ‘I can tell you this, I am absolutley 100% not pitching this year.’
When asked about the impact of the Clemens trial, Pettitte did not hesitate and said, ‘it had absolutely no impact on my decision.’
When asked about Lee, Pettitte hesitated, and then repeatedly said, “I don’t think so.”
This is the same guy, in the same press conference. How anybody can listen to those three “no answers” and not recognize the radical difference between the first two and the third is hard to imagine.
And to not even take into account the setting and the fact that Andy knows as well as any the impact his words have in the New York media? That is one-sided at best.
Bernie!
Poor Bernie.
He’s like the 5th Beatle.
BJ,that would be Stu. lol.
Bronx Jeers February 4th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Poor Bernie.
He’s like the 5th Beatle.
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The fifth Beatle remark always makes me laugh, because I think of Eddie Murphy doing a skit and showing a picture of him as the fifth Beatle.
Bronx Jeers February 4th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Poor Bernie.
He?s like the 5th Beatle.
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February 26th….first ST game on YES.
It does sound as if Cashman did all he could to get Andy to return. He just didn’t want to play anymore.
Thanks for the memories, Andy.
But, damn.
GreenBeret7 February 4th, 2011 at 11:59 am
February 26th….first ST game on YES.
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It can’t come soon enough. I wish it were tomorrow. Bring it on!
I also love going into the season as an underdog.
Cowherd=Cowturd……..can’t stand the guy and his annoying voice…..
I am definitely more at peace with this whole thing after listening to Andy. There is no question that he has his mind made up. Godspeed Andy and thanks for the wonderful memories.
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I will say this one more time. Andy knew that the Yankees were courting Lee in the off season. He told his wife he was through with the game after his last game in Arlington and DID NOT WORK OUT FOR TWO MONTHS, despite knowing that the Yankees were courting Cliff Lee and probably believing they were going to get him. HE DID NOT WORK OUT FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE HE BECAME A BASEBALL PLAYER.
Lee wasn’t a factor, or it certainly wasn’t an overriding factor. If playing with Lee was the difference maker, he would have been working out from the day he left the postseason.
His groin won.
Andy Pettitte just asked Yankee fans to stop responding to Yankeesnmore.
“I also love going into the season as an underdog.
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Me too! Big big big big time!!! I would say that indicates we don’t need all kinds of assurances nor do we need the deadliest team on paper in order to truly enjoy this great game of baseball. Letting it unfold is exciting!
Kudos to us.
LGY
I will do it for Andy!
yankeefeminista February 4th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
GreenBeret7 February 4th, 2011 at 11:59 am
February 26th….first ST game on YES.
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It can’t come soon enough. I wish it were tomorrow. Bring it on!
I also love going into the season as an underdog.
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Nothing better than sneaking up on a team and beating them to a bloody pulp 100 times a year, and then kicking them another 11 times in the post season.
FYI, mlb network is reshowing Andy’s press conference.
YF/Trisha
it will make it all the more rewarding when the Yankees win!
Ledger_Yankees Pettitte thinks his groin injury stemmed from adjustment he made in his training. Made change just before ASG. #nyy
“Andy Pettitte just asked Yankee fans to stop responding to Yankeesnmore.”
Okey dokey finoke!
Anyway, watching someone cower kind of embarrasses me for the person doing the cowering. So I will honor Andy’s request.
trisha
I enjoy your posts and admire your spirit. I just think you’d be better off ignoring this fool.
just for ha’s
order of the core 4 importance to the Yankees from the start to 2010
I remember a couple of weeks ago when it was rumored that Andy was beginning to work out and people on the board were upset by the hold up of his decision to either or play or not play … some implying that it was the type of diva act that Brett Favre would do.
I posted that in my mind Andy needed to get himself into the routine of preparing for the season to know once and for all if he was good to go in 2011 or if he no longer had it in his heart to go thru one more season.
Today, he verified what I believe was true. He was not sold in heart, body, and soul to commit and being the person that he is, he could not just “show up” for one more year just to collect a paycheck. Andy has always been a stand up guy and this proves it, yet again.
“I mighta woulda..” got to love Andy.
mine…
MO
Jeter
Andy
PO
GreenBeret7 February 4th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Nothing better than sneaking up on a team and beating them to a bloody pulp 100 times a year, and then kicking them another 11 times in the post season.
upstate kate February 4th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
YF/Trisha
it will make it all the more rewarding when the Yankees win!
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That’s what I am saying! Underdog FTW!
“order of the core 4 importance to the Yankees from the start to 2010″
Kinda tough. I think I’d have a different answer if the question concerned the postseason only. Overall though, I’d go:
Jeter
Rivera
Pettitte
Posada
As it relates to the postseason successes:
Rivera
Pettitte
Jeter
Posada
KenDavidoff Cashman says no one will receive #46 in spring training. Retirement up to ownership. #Yankees
Joeman
you were right
I can’t blame Andy for wanting time w/ his family. Kids grow up so fast.
Can’t retire the number.Andy will need it next year
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KenDavidoff Cashman says no one will receive #46 in spring training. Retirement up to ownership. #Yankees
I was saddened to learn of Pettitte’s retirement, because he is a long-time favorite of mine, and because he really seemed to have hit his stride last year. I’m sorry to see him go, but I’m happy for him and his family.
There is no question that losing Andy will be a big blow to the Yanks going forward in 2011. It would have been a big blow if the rotation was stacked, and the thinness of the starting rotation as it stands amplifies the effect of losing Pettitte. AI think that the Yanks will still be a playoff contending team in 2011, but the margin of error for the Yanks just got a whole lot smaller without Pettitte.
pat February 4th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
KenDavidoff Cashman says no one will receive #46 in spring training. Retirement up to ownership. #Yankees
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#46 should be retired, even if we are eventually going to run out of numbers.
I don’t like ranking them. But I’d say its Jeter , then the rest in a tie. Rivera should get a lot of credit for being supernaturally good in the postseason, but he is still only a closer. Pettitte got the games to Rivera, and Posada gave the yankees a huge advantage at catcher for many years.
Is the press conference still going on?
I only set my DVR until 12:-(
pat/Erin
You two have been battling it out lately withe tweet a thon. Will there be an arm wrestling competition to see who’s declared the ultimate winner?
How surprising it is to see people…the same people that whined and complained about that washed up dog, Bernie Williams came back and wanted to return when he was so “useless” are now wanting, wishing, complaining about Pettitte’s decision.
I don’t know why this is the case, because if he came back and didn’t have Pettitte like numbers, you’d say the same things about him that you say about Williams. Is it the need to complain about anything or just plain stupidity and the need to be an ass?
KPB February 4th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
pat/Erin
You two have been battling it out lately withe tweet a thon. Will there be an arm wrestling competition to see who’s declared the ultimate winner?
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Actually, I believe thumb war would be soooo much more appropriate
Erica in NY
No it ended a little while ago.
Andy’s pickoff move was stellar and that too will be missed.
KPB February 4th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
pat/Erin
You two have been battling it out lately withe tweet a thon. Will there be an arm wrestling competition to see who?s declared the ultimate winner?
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pat usually beats me, so she’d probably win.
NYPost_Kernan Andy Pettitte just told us he will be sending a lot of text message to teammates. #Yankees PC just ended.
Andy Pettitte appreciates your effort to fulfill his request.
On another note, one thing is for sure from that press conference. Respected journalist Jon Heyman does not have a respected stylist on the payroll.
BryanHoch So the Core Four is no more. What do we call the remaining three guys?
Posada had his post seasom moments, but, he was never that great as far as numbers go, but, still couldn’t imagine anyone of the catchers of the last 25 years that I’d want in there more in a 7th game.
108 stitches February 4th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Andy’s pickoff move was stellar and that too will be missed.
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Remember when he got out of a bases loaded no out jam by picking off the runner at first base…..
# Erica in NY February 4th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
KPB February 4th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
pat/Erin
You two have been battling it out lately withe tweet a thon. Will there be an arm wrestling competition to see who’s declared the ultimate winner?
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Actually, I believe thumb war would be soooo much more appropriate
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I stand corrected and bow to your more accurate wit.
I knew there would be a place that there would just be Andy appreciation and not just worrying about the rotation. We all care about the rotation but for me – since yesterday – this is about Andy and wow, what a class act. What a class act; what a wonderful pitcher; what a great Yankee.
I’ll miss him greatly, especially that stare – he’s been my favorite since Guidry.
MLB channel is doing a piece on him — he looked so young in that picture with Laura from ’95.
Anyway, thank you Yankee fans for having a place just to appreciate him.
Erin February 4th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
BryanHoch So the Core Four is no more. What do we call the remaining three guys?
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The Three Amigos?
Or would that require a licensing fee?
I don’t know why this is the case, because if he came back and didn’t have Pettitte like numbers, you’d say the same things about him that you say about Williams. Is it the need to complain about anything or just plain stupidity and the need to be an ass?
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Difference being Bernie fell off a cliff after 2002, while Pettitte pitched 130 superb innings in 2010.
OK, I’m off to the dentist.
I have to get two fillings. I like my dark chocolate M&Ms a little too much. LOL
Everybody have a good day!!
“….especially that stare – he’s been my favorite since Guidry…”
Mine too. When was the last time that the Yanks won a World Series without a Louisiana lefty in the rotation?
Erin
Good luck and have fun.
KPB February 4th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Erin
Good luck and have fun.
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Getting a filling is not my idea of fun. But thank you.
KPB-
I thought you’d be asleep by now.
Or are you just “sleep typing” ?
People I do not like right now: Jeter, Mo, Posada and especially Tino for supporting Andy’s retirement.
People I like: Andy’s son who was upset about the decision.
Yes I’m kidding. Wow, what a great press conference. As much as some of it killed me to watch ( him saying he feels great and can still pitch, 2 weeks ago he was on board to come back,… etc) he really seems at peace with this decision and I have to respect that. Words cant describe how much I’m going to miss seeing him on the mound.
# Jerkface February 4th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
I don’t know why this is the case, because if he came back and didn’t have Pettitte like numbers, you’d say the same things about him that you say about Williams. Is it the need to complain about anything or just plain stupidity and the need to be an ass?
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Difference being Bernie fell off a cliff after 2002, while Pettitte pitched 130 superb innings in 2010.
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IMO, I never saw Andy look any better than he did in 2010. This is part of what makes his departure so disappointing. He was at the pinnacle of his game, operating on a much higher level than I had ever seen him. He had become a master of the art of pitching, and he would have easily gotten to 300 wins. I want to be happy for him, but the selfish part of me still wants a couple of years more, because his best baseball was still ahead of him.
Andy was a great Yankee. First class all the way. Sad to see him go but hopefully the future will be bright for some new Yankee pitching prospects.
KPB – definitely consider it done!
I’m with GB7, I thought for sure the other members of the Core Four would be there to show support for their good friend.
Some times what you don’t do says more about you than what you do.
MTU
I was winding down, then realized I was so close to the PC. Now the eyes are burning a little, so I wouldn’t think it’d be much longer.
But never fear, I can still muster a few friendly jabs your way.
Ways Andy can still work in baseball:
1. Go around the country to colleges and minor league teams and talk about what a mistake it was to turn to HGH.
2. Work with Manny B and Jeremy Bleich on the pick off move (though I don’t expect to see him in Tampa as a “coach” this year)
I just don’t see him transitioning well into studio or analyst work or long term coaching.
trisha – true pinstriped blue February 4th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
KPB – definitely consider it done!
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There you go. Don’t you feel better and more relaxed already?
KPB-
I’ve got one foot out the door so it will have to wait till another time.
Dream positive dreams about the new core four.
Later.
“I’m with GB7, I thought for sure the other members of the Core Four would be there to show support for their good friend.”
I don’t know. I think in this particular case you just have to let it be Pettitte’s day. Jeter, Rivera and Posada all issued heartfelt statements about Pettitte moving on and what he meant to them as a teammate and a friend. But today was Pettitte’s day. I think that’s the way it should be. I’m sure they’ll be there when/if #46 is retired and he’s enshrined in Monument Park.
Guys are scattered across the country/world so it might have been tough for them to be in NY for the press conference and less than all of them there together may have caused more chatter than it was worth.
Ghostwriter February 4th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
“….especially that stare – he’s been my favorite since Guidry…”
Mine too. When was the last time that the Yanks won a World Series without a Louisiana lefty in the rotation?
.Time for the scouts to find & develop another.
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I think the other members of the core 4 will show up around AS break for when Andy comes back misremembering that he retired!
MTU
Will do. Be safe.
Unless there was a lot going on behind the scenes, there wasn’t much notice for this press conference
And air travel is all messed up in the South due to the crazy weather
Don’t be so quick to jump to conclusions
Not this year, but, perhaps next, I’d like to see Andy in ST, as well as in the minor leagues teaching LHP his move to 1B.
Given who he is, I think pitchers would love having him as a coach, even PT.
Last night I was talking with my son and said upon hearing of Andy’s retirement that he’s been pitching for the Yanks most of my adult life, to which my son replied ” he’s been pitching my WHOLE life”. We’ll miss ya Andy.
Knew this day was coming, but still shocked. anyway, looking forward to the next time we do see Andy …. old timer’s day 2011 … now that’s hard to say … anyway … like most of you here … appreciate everything #46 has done for the organization, for us fans (making it proud to wear the pinstripes), and most importantly his love/care of his family!
Big shoes to fill …
Sad day for Yankees
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