Brosius to manage under-18 U.S. team, plus notes
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Feb 07, 2011 
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My second Associated Press post of the night. I feel lazy.
DURHAM, N.C. (AP) — Former World Series MVP Scott Brosius has become the manager of the under-18 national team for the United States.
USA Baseball made the announcement Monday.
Brosius was the MVP when the New York Yankees won the 1998 championship. The All-Star third baseman is going into his fourth year as head coach at Linfield College in Oregon.
The under-18 team will play in a Pan American tournament at Colombia starting in late September.
Former big leaguer Brian McRae will be an assistant coach on the team.
• Newsday and The Post each had stories about Derek Jeter this afternoon.
• Phil Hughes also talked to reporters in Tampa this morning. Here’s the lead quote from The Post: “When you have a bad second half, all I thought about was those bad games because there weren’t very many good ones mixed in there,” Hughes said.
• The AP also had a story this afternoon about the Eric Chavez signing. It was nothing unusual — just a few paragraphs about him agreeing to a minor league deal — but the last paragraph stood out: Chavez has had five operations since September 2007, including three on his shoulder and two on his back. He felt spasms on both sides of his neck last year after a spring training drill in which a minor leaguer collided with his right shoulder. Everyone knows Chavez has been hurt a lot, but I didn’t realize it had been five surgeries in four years. That’s just brutal.
• Robby Hammock signed a minor league deal with the Diamondbacks. You’re forgiven if you’ve forgotten — or never knew — that he played in the Yankees system last year. He hit .180 in 22 games for Scranton.
• Michael Young has officially requested a trade out of Texas. Really nice player, but the Yankees don’t have a spot for him. He’d get less playing time in New York than in Texas.
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Jerkface; I don’t agree with your stats. Moving on.
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What does this even mean? Stats are facts. You can’t disagree with facts. You can only try to rebut them with other facts.
He is just trolling, why he decided to take a stand on something as easily verifiable as Hughes curveball’s velocity and break is beyond me. Maybe he is as stupid as we think he is?
Also lmao, ‘I don’t agree with the recorded outcomes of Hughes curveball’. Its not anything that was generated, or derived. I only referenced the actual outcomes that occurred on the field.
Bad troll.
CC’s splitter was a great pitch last year
Mariano Rivera’s knuckle ball might be the best pitch in the majors.
Not as good as Mo’s knuckler
I disagree. His gyroball is way better
Who is the troll? Jerkface, why stop at that, why don’t you insult my mother like you did last week?
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Jerkface January 28th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
I’d rather get DIPS with your mother.
Javy’s fastball was the best change up in the league last year.
“Better than not being a ?magic person?, I suppose.”
Thank you Nick. LOL funny and I needed the chuckle.
LGY February 7th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
I disagree. His gyroball is way better
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Seriously … there’s a pitch named for a Greek sandwich?
Rich – I was referencing speed differentials and games I saw when Hughes had a knockout curve, NOT what his average speed on his fastball was. What I said going from memory, was that Hughes fastball in 2010 from what I recall was usually in the 94mph range and his curveball was usually about 74mph. So his fastball average was 1 mph more. Wow! 1 mph.
“Who is the troll? Jerkface, why stop at that, why don’t you insult my mother like you did last week?”
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I wouldn’t open that door. Face throws a mean splither.
agree. Gyroball makes me kinda hungry.
He opened the door and if you think I am backing down to that kind of unwarranted personal garbage you’re wrong.
Interesting that Texas would consider trading Michael Young to an AL West team if it helps Texas? Young to the Angels for Kazmir? Can’t see the Angels moving Santana for him, though.
Hours after the Rangers’ Monday afternoon confirmation that Michael Young had requested a trade over a change in heart about his role, the embattled DH struck back with a strong rebuke of management.
“I’ve kept a low profile out of respect for the team, the coaching staff, my family and the fans because I didn’t want to put anybody on an unnecessary roller-coaster,” Young said in a brief phone conversation. “Now, I think it’s important to address the inaccurate portrayal that is being painted. The suggestion that I’ve simply had a change of heart and asked for a trade is a manipulation of the truth.”
http://rangersblog.dallasnews......isled.html
“I want to be traded because I’ve been misled and manipulated and I’m sick of it,” Young added.
However, he declined to reveal details of how he was misled or manipulated.
“That would be unproductive for everybody, particularly my teammates and coaches,” he said. “I know the truth and Jon Daniels knows the truth and I will sleep well.”
If he opened the door he must have been on his way out. You missed him buddy.
GreenBeret7 February 7th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
http://minormatterstrenton.blogspot.com/
Some good reading from Josh Norris, starting from Friday’s article on Graham Stoneburner down to the end.
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Wow! What an awesome writer.
Thanks for pointing it out.
This kid has a future…hopefully he won’t be traded for a Bill Madden…but actually, he should be hired by that paper, as they need someone like Chad or Donnie Collins to revitalize their Yankee section.
I love this article by Donnie Collins too
http://blogs.thetimes-tribune......#more-7633
How many doors does Jeter’s house have?
Nick,
I also cracked up at your ‘magic person’ comment. Classic!
Yikes. Things getting ugly in Texas. Trading him in the division could backfire. Would be a man on a mission.
It’s getting really ugly in texas. Young says he’s tired of being misled and manipulated.
I don’t think Young is worth very much. He’ll turn 35 in 2011, he’s basically league average or slightly better offensively, he is becoming a DH, and he makes way too much money given his value.
I just read about Scott Brosius. Now there was a player who was not an all star that I thought was terrific. I was sorry when he retired.
“Seriously … there’s a pitch named for a Greek sandwich?”
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Google gyroball Matsuzaka.
It was all the rage when he signed with the Sox but it seems he has taken a liking to that sandwich way more than actually throwing that pitch.
There is an ancient back story with Young & the Rangers. Something about changing positions?
Young in his career
Home: .859 OPS
Away: .733
There are a lot of Youtube videos on how to throw the gyro…and I remember seeing a Walter Johnson video of how he pitched, and thinking how well his delivery was for throwing it.
When did the Yankees get “more bang for their buck” … when they had Scott Brosius playing 3rd for $5MM per at his peak) … or ARod at 3rd at a $Gazillion per?
from rotoworld on Russell Martin:
Russell Martin (hip, knee) has declared himself in the best shape of his professional career.
Martin, who is coming off a fractured hip and knee surgery, has used mixed martial arts training in order to get in shape this offseason. “I feel like I’ve trained myself the right way this year. … It’s just really high intensity, power endurance-type training,” said Martin.
When did the Yankees get “more bang for their buck” … when they had Scott Brosius playing 3rd for $5MM per at his peak) … or ARod at 3rd at a $Gazillion per?
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Probably A-rod, since at the time when Brosius was playing, salaries were not exploding and his best season was this:
.300 .371 .472 .843
A-rod got paid 22 mil – texas money to put up this in 2007: .314 .422 .645 1.067
Either way, Phil does not throw the power curve he did in 2009 -that was a good one. I remember fans being very pleasantly surprised in ST of that year. I don’t think all this tinkering with the pitch is very helpful to Phil – they have to find one grip and stick with it. I don’t know what he threw in the minors, but if it was so good, why doesn’t he go back to it?
m February 7th, 2011 at 10:59 pm
There is an ancient back story with Young & the Rangers. Something about changing positions?
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Young has changed positions with the Rangers almost as much as Seka did with John Holmes.
Keith Olbermann via Twitter:
“OK it’s true! I’ve signed with the Yankees. I’m competing with Freddy Garcia and Bartolo Colon for the 5th Starter’s job.”
Lol. Isn’t there some Man Law against telling a guy what you want to do with his mama?
BD, if true, that would be great news for Martin and the Yanks – that’s one story I’m keeping on top of
If Kazmir gets moved to Texas, it’ll be Wang ’09 Redux for him pitching in that park.
“When did the Yankees get “more bang for their buck” … when they had Scott Brosius playing 3rd for $5MM per at his peak) … or ARod at 3rd at a $Gazillion per?”
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Brousius only had one good year with the Yanks.
He was pretty craptastic his final 3 years.
BD (Boston Dave) February 7th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
from rotoworld on Russell Martin:
Russell Martin (hip, knee) has declared himself in the best shape of his professional career.
Martin, who is coming off a fractured hip and knee surgery, has used mixed martial arts training in order to get in shape this offseason. “I feel like I’ve trained myself the right way this year. … It’s just really high intensity, power endurance-type training,” said Martin.
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Last year, it was Swisher with boxing…
Even if we don’t have as good a line-up as Boston, I am convinced we can beat the crap out of them.
Michael Young telling it like it is:
“I’ve kept a low profile out of respect for the team, the coaching staff, my family and the fans because I didn’t want to put anybody on an unnecessary roller-coaster. Now, I think it’s important to address the inaccurate portrayal that is being painted. The suggestion that I’ve simply had a change of heart and asked for a trade is a manipulation of the truth.”
“I want to be traded because I’ve been misled and manipulated and I’m sick of it.”
Martin may be in great shape and have a bounce back season, but I take every pre-ST report with a very large amount of salt.
“Lol. Isn’t there some Man Law against telling a guy what you want to do with his mama?”
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In my experience the Man Law is to tell them you want to as often as possible.
Does Olbermann actually think that’s funny? Sheesh
m February 7th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
Lol. Isn’t there some Man Law against telling a guy what you want to do with his mama?
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It’s always done by a punk and coward.
Hi m
Did Jeter working out in Tampa set off the “bat signal” in your neck of the woods and bring you out from the woodwork?
Phil does not throw the power curve he did in 2009
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His 09 curve wasn’t even much of a power curve. Just faster than the lollipop he threw the year before. Bartolo Colon threw a power curve.
“Even if we don’t have as good a line-up as Boston, I am convinced we can beat the crap out of them.”
If that’s the test, TB will win the division because Farnsworth may be the toughest guy in MLB.
Didn’t someone link an article the other day stating that Martin says he is in the best shape of his life every year? Also called him a douche as a strength IIRC.
Martin said he was in the best shape of his life last year too
Olbermann tweeted that because he is announcing tomorrow what his next venture is and there has been lots of speculation. In that context it’s funny.
There it is! “Best Shape” confirmation.
Re: Young, there was trade rumblings when the first moved him. He prolly thinks he’s been a good soldier and did everything the Rangers have asked. All I know is that he’s not being a very good soldier now! Haha.
If Kazmir gets moved to Texas, it’ll be Wang ’09 Redux for him pitching in that park.
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Its already Wang 09 redux for kazmir. He stinks.
Big man Jerkface. Isn’t anonymity grand.
Martin is a serial best shape of his lifer.
MLB is going to need to hand out a BSOHL award because lots of guys say they are in contention this year.
# Jerkface February 7th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
When did the Yankees get “more bang for their buck” … when they had Scott Brosius playing 3rd for $5MM per at his peak) … or ARod at 3rd at a $Gazillion per?
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Probably A-rod, since at the time when Brosius was playing, salaries were not exploding and his best season was this:
.300 .371 .472 .843
A-rod got paid 22 mil – texas money to put up this in 2007: .314 .422 .645 1.067
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Brosius had one of the ugliest swings that I ever saw, but he always seemed to come through late in a close game. He was very much like Matsui in that regard. This kind of clutch hitting is something that the Yanks missed in 2010.
Rich in NJ February 7th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
“Even if we don’t have as good a line-up as Boston, I am convinced we can beat the crap out of them.”
If that’s the test, TB will win the division because Farnsworth may be the toughest guy in MLB.
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I remember watching a YES show about the Yankees’ trainer, and how he put players through tough work-outs. He showed one step climbing machine and described how tough it was, and then said something like Farnsworth was the hardest and toughest worker on team, and only guy he ever saw who maxed out the machine.
They kept Brosius too long, and it cost Mike Lowell a chance to stick in NY.
Jerkface, all I know is that whatever his curve was like in the minors, it’s just not very good now (sure he’s capable of throwing a good one, but until he becomes consistent with it, it’s not a good pitch for him). Maybe the curve ball just will never be a good pitch for him.
Jerkface February 7th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
You’re right, I’m sick of your mother being anonymous. Please give me all her contact information.
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That’s going to be a bit tough Jerkface since she’s deceased.
WC, I still don’t think it’s funny, lol – but I’m not implying that you shouldn’t have posted it, lol. If I were a fan of his, I think I’d dump him after that kind of dumb crack, lol
If you want to see real power curve, look at Colon in his prime. 81 with sharp break. AJ burnett throws a pretty fast curve. Felix hernandez has a power curve, edwin jackson.
Brosius had one of the ugliest swings that I ever saw, but he always seemed to come through late in a close game. He was very much like Matsui in that regard. This kind of clutch hitting is something that the Yanks missed in 2010.
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98: late and close: .829 OPS // playoffs 1.060 OPS
99: L+C: .514 OPS // playoffs .744 OPS
00: .578 OPS // .616 OPS
01: .916 OPS // .418 OPS
Ok, whatever, but I still think Martin was a very good pickup.
Jerkface February 7th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
When did the Yankees get “more bang for their buck” … when they had Scott Brosius playing 3rd for $5MM per at his peak) … or ARod at 3rd at a $Gazillion per?
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Probably A-rod, since at the time when Brosius was playing, salaries were not exploding and his best season was this:
.300 .371 .472 .843
A-rod got paid 22 mil – texas money to put up this in 2007: .314 .422 .645 1.067
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Good point.
But I gotta saythat Brosius, “pound for pound” (or should it be “dollar for dollar”?), gives Al a run for his money. ESPECIALLY if you factor in WS performances.
Hi, pat.
It’s been too long. Took me a long time to figure out that BS means Best Shape.
.245 .278 .418 .696 career in the postseason. His best year was 98.
Never hit 20 HRs, scored 100 runs, got 100 RBIs. Pound for pound, A-rod pounds him.
Betsy February 7th, 2011 at 11:12 pm
Jerkface, all I know is that whatever his curve was like in the minors, it’s just not very good now (sure he’s capable of throwing a good one, but until he becomes consistent with it, it’s not a good pitch for him). Maybe the curve ball just will never be a good pitch for him.
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That is what is so interesting about Hughes…He seems to go through curve ball grips and styles as frequently as Ruby Tuesday changes underwear (at least once a year whether he needs to or not).
The uptake is that he is still experimenting and learning, but has the brains to adapt. I think he is getting closer and closer to finding consistency.
“But I gotta saythat Brosius, “pound for pound” (or should it be “dollar for dollar”?), gives Al a run for his money. ESPECIALLY if you factor in WS performances.”
Was 2009 a dream? Brosius isn’t in the same universe as A-Rod by any measure.
One of the beneficial aspects of the internet, the anonymity. Sure can be tough under these circumstances can’t you Jerkface and Bojo?
LGY,
I’m a little surprised that he wasn’t better than that. I guess ’98 and ’01 left a strong impression in my mind.
Broscius reminds me a lot of Clete Boyer…both could play SS as well as 3B, and were great gloves…
WCYF–Are you Ruby Tuesday? Did I address you? I’ve seen your game on Daily News for over a year and want nothing to do with you. I won’t even go into the reasons why.
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I believe a different BS beside “best shape” may also apply because some may be more in the same shape of their lies unfortunately.
Bojo, not the sweetest analogy, lol. It’s puzzling why he keeps tinkering – they really need to stop that with him already. I don’t think it speaks well of Eiland that he couldn’t figure something out with Phil and the curve.
Betsy February 7th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
Bojo, not the sweetest analogy, lol. It’s puzzling why he keeps tinkering – they really need to stop that with him already. I don’t think it speaks well of Eiland that he couldn’t figure something out with Phil and the curve.
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As a young 22-23 year old, when Mike Mussina comes over and shows you attention and demonstrates how he throws a curve that has taken him to the gates of the HOF, you might be inclined to be impressed and swayed. Just a guess.
If Hughes had such a great curveball, then why did it seem like he had so much trouble putting away hitters last year?I, for one, am hoping that he keeps working on the change-up.
Spring Training…. where everyone is in the “best shape of their lives”.
I’m still waiting to see AJ throw that change-up that he said he worked on all winter last year…
Betsy Cont’d.
I also think there could be great value in having a knuckle curve (like Mussina) and a power curve–if Hughes can master both. The speed and movement differences give him 2 great weapons in addition to change and fastball…add a cutter, and (as Casey Stengal would say) “in 10 years, that 25 year old has a great chance to be 35.” Or better yet, a great pitcher.
pat,
We still think along the same lines. But the odds are with Martin, right? This has to be the year!
I feel so embarrassed, but what ever happened to Cervelli?
The anti–Best Shape of My Life guy=Terry (“A waist is a terrible thing to mind”) Foster.
m February 7th, 2011 at 11:27 pm
I feel so embarrassed, but what ever happened to Cervelli?
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He is in the best shape of his life, and raring to go.
Bojo, IMO he may be listening to too many people, Moose included. Just because that pitch worked for Mike doesn’t mean it will work for Phil…..and I would say the same about any pitcher taking advice from any other pitcher.
# BoJo February 7th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
Betsy Cont’d.
I also think there could be great value in having a knuckle curve (like Mussina) and a power curve–if Hughes can master both. The speed and movement differences give him 2 great weapons in addition to change and fastball…add a cutter, and (as Casey Stengal would say) “in 10 years, that 25 year old has a great chance to be 35.” Or better yet, a great pitcher.
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I don’t think that you can have both. I seem to recall an ex-pitcher–it might have been Kaat or Leiter–talking about how using one type of breaking pitch makes a pitcher less effective with other types of breaking pitches. I wish that I could remember the precise example that he used, but it escapes me at the moment.
Bojo, that Casey line always makes me laugh, lol. First, let Phil master one curve, let alone two.
It was the changeup/cutter…
BoJo February 7th, 2011 at 11:28 pm W
The anti–Best Shape of My Life guy=Terry (“A waist is a terrible thing to mind”) Foster.
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More so than Micky Lolich? The guy who had to adjust his windup late in his career to compensate for his huge beer belly?
Ghostwriter February 7th, 2011 at 11:30 pm
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A slider and curve are what you are talking about…not different grips on a curve.
Aww, that’s a great pic of Scotty. Even though we lost in 2001, games 4/5 were so incredibly special that I can watch the endings of those games without too many pangs – well, with none actually
Darth Helmet is prolly thinking of way to dethrone Martin right now… ah those haunting eyes…I think they swallow up G’s soul every time Darth cast his glance in G’s way. That is when G is not too busy drooling over Mitre. Though I believe it’s platonic and pure at it’s base intent. For whom doesth the Helmet shine, it shines for thy G. it shines for thy.
Mientkiewicz was the anti-BSOHL too- “You can’t pull and strain fat”
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Cervelli’s hanging out with Robbie hoping to learn how to hit by osmosis. He’s in the mix for catcher but only if he shows up in the best shape of his life.
Something I thought of the other day after seeing the Cano show on YES, Cervelli and Nunez are working out this off season with Cano and Melky, the Cano BFF, is in Miami working out with Jorge and Alex.
Betsy February 7th, 2011 at 11:30 pm
Bojo, IMO he may be listening to too many people, Moose included. Just because that pitch worked for Mike doesn’t mean it will work for Phil…..and I would say the same about any pitcher taking advice from any other pitcher.
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I think pitchers do this a lot…get shared knowledge from others that helps their careers.
Ghostwriter February 7th, 2011 at 11:30 pm
# BoJo February 7th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
Betsy Cont’d.
I also think there could be great value in having a knuckle curve (like Mussina) and a power curve–if Hughes can master both. The speed and movement differences give him 2 great weapons in addition to change and fastball…add a cutter, and (as Casey Stengal would say) “in 10 years, that 25 year old has a great chance to be 35.” Or better yet, a great pitcher.
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I don’t think that you can have both. I seem to recall an ex-pitcher–it might have been Kaat or Leiter–talking about how using one type of breaking pitch makes a pitcher less effective with other types of breaking pitches. I wish that I could remember the precise example that he used, but it escapes me at the moment.
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I remember listening to a pitcher/TV commentator say the same thing, talking about how the grip on one pitch, if thrown with any frequency, can affect a pitcher’s consistency with another pitch.
Can’t remember the specifics either, though.
BoJo February 7th, 2011 at 11:34 pm
Thanks!
Cashmoney February 7th, 2011 at 11:35 pm
Darth Helmet is prolly thinking of way to dethrone Martin right now… ah those haunting eyes…I think they swallow up G’s soul every time Darth cast his glance in G’s way. That is when G is not too busy drooling over Mitre. Though I believe it’s platonic and pure at it’s base intent. For whom doesth the Helmet shine, it shines for thy G. it shines for thy.
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Are you talking about “Brokeback Catchers?”
Cutter and Change Up were the two pitches, due to the opposite wrist motion of each.
So Cervelli wasn’t traded?
Have you guys fleshed out a 25-man roster?
I would think Cervelli’s on there. Freddie Garcia makes it. Jones signed a major league contract?
Going to have a lot if cuts. I hope Colon is one. I said some really heinous things that I’m not going to apologize for.
Bojo, Phil likes to talk pitching and I love that, but it’s time he settles on one type of curve. I think Rothschild will be a great help in that regard………..I find myself being excited over the signing of a pitching coach, lol
Hopefully Phil won’t have that issue with the CU/cutter
Ghostwriter February 7th, 2011 at 11:37 pm
BoJo February 7th, 2011 at 11:34 pm
Thanks!
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YW..
This goes back a long ways. In fact, I remember reading about it in 1960s fan mags about Bob Gibson–the How I Pitch kind of stuff…
Jerkface February 7th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
Cutter and Change Up were the two pitches, due to the opposite wrist motion of each.
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If true, I also remember scouts and pitching coaches saying the same about slider and curve because of the different arm motion. I can probably cite several links for that.
The Cleveland Cacaliers (their new name) have lost an NBA-record 25 straight?!
Boy, their owner really showed Lebron a thing or two, huh?
brokenback catchers would prolly be redundant as a phrase in certain arenas. I was just waxing something something about my perceived notion of Joe G’s love for Mitre and Helmet. But that could be just me…
Cash stopped taking my roster suggestions years ago so I leave him to come up with the 25 man on his own now.
I think Martin as the starter and Cervelli as back up might be plan A unless Montero makes Plan B more attractive.
Jones was a major league deal but not sure anything has been formalized.
# Betsy February 7th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
Bojo, Phil likes to talk pitching and I love that, but it’s time he settles on one type of curve. I think Rothschild will be a great help in that regard………..I find myself being excited over the signing of a pitching coach, lol
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I was never wild about Eiland as a pitching coach. I’ve missed Mel since he moved on to other things. I’m quite optimistic about Rothschild.
If the Knicks did not inexplicably lose to the Cavs in OT it would be 35 straight losses.
pat February 7th, 2011 at 11:47 pm
Cash stopped taking my roster suggestions years ago so I leave him to come up with the 25 man on his own now.
I think Martin as the starter and Cervelli as back up might be plan A unless Montero makes Plan B more attractive.
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As Yogi might say…”I think between Cervelli and Montero, the best catcher will win, but Cervelli could be pretty good too.”
The 8 teams Young can be traded to without his consent are Cardinals, Yankees, Twins, Astros, Rockies, Dodgers, Angels, Padres.
Has he ever pitched and how much of his salary are the Rangers willing to pay?
I sincerely hope our old friend Melky Cabrera does well in KC. It seems like an ideal setup for him and he seems to he running out of chances.
Betsy and Ghost–
I was actually surprised at the hiring of Rothschild… I was expecting another direction…but I am definitely psyched to see how he performs (or more accurately gets the pitchers to perform).
LGY says:
February 7, 2011 at 11:50 pm
If the Knicks did not inexplicably lose to the Cavs in OT it would be 35 straight losses.
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Wow! Didn’t know that.
Ghost, I liked Eiland, but now that he’s gone, I’m starting to wonder about how good he really was
# Dionysius Thelxinoe February 7th, 2011 at 11:46 pm
The Cleveland Cacaliers (their new name) have lost an NBA-record 25 straight?!
Boy, their owner really showed Lebron a thing or two, huh?
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So I guess the Cav fans that said they didn’t need Lebron might have to rethink that statement.
good night!
Good morning, morning people.
pat and m -
So good to see your banter last night. I really need to try and stay awake past 10 pm!
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It is always nice to get an update on retired Yankees favorites. Good luck to Scotty B.
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I’m actually glad to hear Michael Young is taking a stand. He really has been the good soldier for years. I know he’s no longer in his prime (but for some reason I always think he’s as young as he always was – probably because I didn’t watch him play on a daily basis like I did with Jeter and Posada, et al.), but he seems like the type of player who would add to a team. It will be interesting to see where he winds up and what Texas gets for him.
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I, too, wish Melky Cabrera well.
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I think Phil Hughes gets picked apart too much on the Lohud. I think one of the reasons the Yankees have always liked him so much is his maturity. He’s not a whiner and he seems the type who will always look to improve his performance. I don’t think you can ask for more than that.
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Is it March yet? Because so far February has not been Fun.
Doreen-
I agree with your take on Young.
Strikes me as a good guy.
Too bad we don’t have a place for him.
In his prime he was excellent.
Young is a lifetime .300 hitter and in his best season hit .331, and he could field too.
Not too shabby for an infielder, eh ?
And in other news.
P and C’s report next week.
Good morning Doreen! And other morning people.
It never fails that when I can kinda sleep in, I’m up at 615.
I was able to get my cousins to, unless their plans change, come with me to Fanfest next weekend. Hopefully they don’t get too grumpy standing in line. I told them that Matt Joyce went to their middle school so they decided they would ask him who his teachers were.
I also found out that minor league Spring Training is free and open to the public, there’s a Thunder game I can go to, I’m excited to get a last look at the guys who are moving up from Tampa before they go up to Trenton for the summer. I wish it was March already.
MTU
I’m going to the first full team workout on Feb 20. The people at the stadium told me that its usually open to the public on workout days so that fans and media can walk around the stadium and the 2 fields surrounding and get a look at everyone before ST starts.
Yesterday I was bored so I reviewed several prospect reports on Warren, Phelps and Noesi over at RAB.
The inescapable conclusion was that any one of the 3 could crack the ML roster at any time.
They all have the talent and stuff.
They all have the innings.
Any one or all of them can be good.
Warren has the best pure stuff of the 3, and Noesi the best C and C.
Phelps splits the difference.
That does not even take into account our Killer B’s.
These are good times to be excited to be a Yankee fan.
TY-
Take some photos and post them.
Looking forward to hearing your impressions and advanced scounting reports.
Thanks.
tyanksfan36
I’m looking forward to your reports on the games you go to! Any luck finding some young ones to go to fanfest and/or games with you so you can get autographs? I think that is so funny.
I am so not the type to ask for autographs, though I did when I was a teenager. My best friend and I used to go to Shea to see the Mets in the early 70s. You could get great seats not too far in advance. We used to take a bus from Staten Island to Queens. Anyway, we’d sit in right field, field level, and I know I got Art Shamsky’s autograph for sure. I know I got others (and possibly Tom Seaver’s), but I never saved them.
Last summer my older daughter and her best friend went to a Thunder game with us and we let them sit separately (on the other side of the field, to be exact – ha ha) and they got an autograph before the game. Unfortunately, I couldn’t read it! I have no idea whose it was.
MTU -
Pitchers and Catchers will be a great thing. For one it will truly signal the winter is coming to an end. And number two, the conversations here can turn more concrete and less esoteric, if you know what I mean.
And if that didn’t whet your appetite we have more arms slowly risng thru the system in Stoneburner, Ramirez, and dePaula.
And the best catching pipeline in ALL of baseball.
Everybody is gonna want to trade with the Yankees soon.
Who could blame them.
grrrr…had to spend 20 minutes shoveling the end of the driveway so I could get to work…the banks are over my head…
oh yeah, good morning
Doreen-
Do I ever.
When I now now the height of every woman on LoHud I figure it might just be time for a change.
Kate-
Like I said.
Move to a warm climate.
Oh, God!!!! I hate these early morning posts…everyone is so polite. Where’s the turmoil…the nastiness?
OK. That’s out of my system. I hope everyone had a great night…no sidewalks and driveways to shovel out. I much prefer to have to shovel out of MTU’s——–. You need to have had time working in a stable to clean up the place after he leaves.
The Yankees are gonna open up soon on the rest of baseball with both barrels.
And make ‘em hate us worse than ever.
One barrel is coming from the farm.
One from our huge financial edge.
I like it. Go on and hate us all you want.
GB-
Hey. I’m from the West. What do you expect ? Emily Post ?
MTU February 8th, 2011 at 7:10 am
GB-
Hey. I’m from the West. What do you expect ? Emily Post ?
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Miss Manners has a better BABIP.
And, you’re no Marty Poppins, either.
GB-
Just tryin’ to liven up the place a bit.
Some of the drivel in here just puts me to sleep.
I’m ready for some real baseball.
MTU, I’ve been ready for some real baseball since the middle of October.
GB-
We people from the South and the West are different.
Ever notice that ?
For example, we live in these funny things called houses whereas
people from back East all seem to live in Igloos.
MTU
grrrrr
kate -
Sounds like you’ve been getting your workouts in with the snow the last couple of days. Yesterday I actually saw a bit of my front lawn and the curb by my mailbox!!!! The snow has gotten to the yucky looking stage – gray and black. The pristine whiteness is long gone.
GB7 -
Welcome to the Coffee Crowd!
MTU -
Yes, you always know when it’s slow news cycle.
GB-
Let me have your take.
Of the list below who do you think sticks with the Yanks and who gets dealt ?
Banuelos
Brackman
Betances
Phelps
Noesi
Nova
Warren
Who’s your favorite ?
MTU February 8th, 2011 at 7:22 am
GB-
We people from the South and the West are different.
Ever notice that ?
For example, we live in these funny things called houses whereas
people from back East all seem to live in Igloos.
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I hear that they are very wasteful, too. They even have electricity in their igloos so they can plug in refrigerators and freezers.
GB-
But they save money on fuel with their dogsleds so it’s a wash.
GB7 -
Welcome to the Coffee Crowd!
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Thank you, Doreen. I’ll have a Coke and a sausage, egg and cheese on a biscuit, please.
MTU February 8th, 2011 at 7:27 am
GB-
Let me have your take.
Of the list below who do you think sticks with the Yanks and who gets dealt ?
Banuelos
Brackman
Betances
Phelps
Noesi
Nova
Warren
Who’s your favorite ?
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MTU, that’s a tough one. sticking after ST, Nova. Phelps, Noesi and Brackman, sometime this year. Who do I like best…Banuelos, but, Marshall just may be the best of all.
Kate-
Too bad Erica wasn’t around or I might have hit the jackpot.
A Grrrrr and a Hisssssssss with a single comment. That’s a record.
Maine Yankee has taught me well.
GB-
Yeah. that’s right. I forgot to mention Marshall in my list of reasons to be optimistic.
My error.
Doreen
I am trying to think of shoveling as a good work out in the great outdoors!
Sunday was the worst, it took me about 6 hours. My husband was out of town and I wanted to have the driveway cleared when he returned. He has back issues and shoveling is hard on him…altho other forms of exercise seem to be just fine!
MTU, if all goes well with Nova and the rest this year, I think that Nova gets dealt after the season. all NYYs need is 20-24 wins from the 4th and 5th slots, and I think they can patch that together with what the have in the system and garcia and Colon.
The Yankees might just have Man O War, Whirlaway, Seabiscuit, Secretariat, and Seattle Slew in their stable.
Now that’s some thoroughbreds.
GB-
I’m not worried.
Lot’s of talent.
Even if it’s a transition year. So what ?
The future looks bright and it’s gonna be exciting watching all these youngsters stru their stuff.
What’s not to like ? We got ‘em by the shorts.
GB
I really appreciate the way you keep us informed about the minor leaguers
edit: strut
MTU, the Yankee system may be as much as 15 deep in high quality starting pitchers. Just how I see it and only my opinion.
GB-
Like I said mate. No worries on my end.
GB-
And how about that Catching ?
Whew !
My pleasure, kate. Like I tell MTU, these are only my opinions and based on only the ones that I’ve seen play. I can’t remember a pitching bounty like this in the system since 1961/1962.
MTU,
Quality pitching and catching is baseball gold.
GB-
When Bleich overcomes his TJ I think he’ll be good too.
GB-
That’s why I said EVERYONE is gonna want to trade with us.
We’re sittin’ pretty.
kate -
Funny how that works, right?
Until this season, it was without fail that the biggest snowstorms occurred while my husband was out of town. Last year I had to clear our driveway after a blizzard, too. I just thank God I’m healthy and able. And my neighbor helped clear the end of the driveway after the plow came through. That would have been the killer.
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GB7 & MTU -
I just hope that people realize that it’s okay if they’re not all “aces.”
MTU, Bleich is one of the high quality 15. he’s also another of the pitchers drafted that NYY was aware of that had possible elbow issues. I think that’s how they got him. I think he’ll be good, but, he’s a gamble.
“I’m not worried.
Lot’s of talent.
Even if it’s a transition year. So what ?
The future looks bright and it’s gonna be exciting watching all these youngsters stru their stuff.”
The only possible problem is if they won’t let it be a transition year (should that be the track they appear to be headed on by June 1) and the owners order Cash to make serial, short-sighted trades that are overpays in an attempt to win-now.
Doreen
One year when my son was in HS and wrestling, it seemed like all the snow storms were on Wednesdays, which is when the wrestling matches were. The poor wrestlers would skip dinner to make weight only to have their meet postponed to another night, when they again would skip dinner. I don’t know how he did it.
Doreen, that’s the trick. Figuring out the best 6 starters and the best ones to make bullpenners out of and trade the rest. Same thi ng with the catching, Keep the best two and convert the best athlete among the rest to another position. Sadly, none of that means the right ones are kept…unless they listen to me.
GB-
Great inventory. A team needs it.
Some will get injured.
Some will bust.
And some will get traded.
But it will all work out. The pond is stocked.
This is one area where Cashman and Co. deserve a lot of credit.
In fact, Cashman might just have to live or die by the results.
Everything with this group will depend on Sabathia going or staying. If he stays, I’d convert Bleich and Brackman to relief. One of those two can close.
Rich-
I’m not looking for an all-prospect team by any means.
I hope the Yanks continue to buy top end FA’s and supplement that
with pieces from the farm.
It’s always good to have a mixture of veteran presence to go along with youth.
I understand your concern about talent being blocked by veterans, and the need to give our youngsters a chance to show something.
The white hot glare of NYC with the constant pressure to win now
sometimes leads to a lack of opportunity.
With the realtive dearth of young quality SP I think more and more
youngsters might just get their chance.
We’ll see.
sp: relative. sorry
I left work at 8pm last night cause I had a billion things to do. And NOTHING went right.
I successfully accomplished getting the laundry in the washer.
I started doing my baking when my doorbell rang and I wasn’t expecting a visitor
(It was a neighbor informing me there was a board meeting Thursday night – which means another night I have to leave work early- and he wanted me to make a sign for it)
He finally left and I resumed baking, put away my groceries, made my lunch for today and finally ate dinner.
Then I had a giant kitchen avalanche and my favorite Ernie mug went flying and broke into pieces…. after it landed on my toe!
So then I tried to glue the mug back together. Which of course meant, I had crazy glue stuck all over my fingers.
I quit.
just as predicted by the l.a. writers, russel martin has pronounced himself to be ‘in the best shape ever.’
every year i wait to hear which a-hole will be the first to pronounce themselves to be in the best shape of thier lives and what do you know, this year it’s martin.
this is not a good omen imo.
GB-
We should see the “Octopus” out of the pen by halftime, if not sooner.
“Everything with this group will depend on Sabathia going or staying.”
Still think there’s a better than fair chance he’ll opt out in an effort to tack on 2-3 additional seasons, but do not see him leaving the Yankees.
I don’t think we should let our expectations get out of of hand; not all of these kids will pan out and some of them will pan out with other teams. It’s way too early to say it’s a transition year even though the rotation is full of holes; also, how can the Yankees sell a transition year when they have players like Jeter and Mo who are only getting older?
“every year i wait to hear which a-hole will be the first to pronounce themselves to be in the best shape of thier lives and what do you know, this year it’s martin.”
If we’re to believe some of the LA scribes, this will represent the 4th consecutive season that Martin has reported in the best shape of his life.
Erica-
You think you had a bad day yesterday.
I’d trade with you in a hearbeat.
Trust me.
Also, we’re going to have some of the killer B’s to break in over the next couple of years – how many transition years are we going to have?
Good morning all. Nice to see mostly positive thoughts out there today.
Al-
Eliminate the negative.
Accentuate the positive.
And get rid of Mr. In-between.
“also, how can the Yankees sell a transition year when they have players like Jeter and Mo who are only getting older?”
Betsy, I missed this sales pitch. Who has declared this a transition year?
Good morning –
It is really unfortunate what’s happened to Michael Young, out in Texas. What exactly did he do wrong? Nothing, as far as I can see.
Too many times, loyalty seems to be a one way street.
Almost everyone states we should have much more home grown talent, but, seem to lack the patience for that talent to develope at the ML level. Can’t have it both ways folks.
Rich mentioned it – he’s always been a proponent of a transistion year.
just because you have a young starter in the rotation doesnt make it a transition year. the yankees won the year joba was in the rotation.
the yankees are going to have to break these guys in through the back end of the rotation over the next few years, so get used to it.
Joe-
A friend of mine has a funny saying.
He says that in this world that “No good deed goes unpunished”.
Looks like MY got bushwacked at the pass.
Hope he gets the last laugh.
MTU
I didn’t mean to suggest that they should field a team entirely of prospects.
My point is that they have three or four pitching prospects that can #1 or #2 starters if they are shown sufficient patience. They have others that can at least hold the fort if given the opportunity until the best ones are ready.
Unfortunately, there will be no great FA starting pitching alternatives available following this season.
So if their rotation shows some fragility, are they patient or do they act on their worst impulses?
Like you, I”m fine with a transition year because it will likely pay major dividends.
But when one of the co-owners says they better bleepin’ win, and their GM is overruled on a setup reliever (rather than a major piece), it makes me skeptical that they will choose the right path.
Erica -
Sorry to hear about your bad night. Especially the Ernie mug! I’ve had crazy glue fingers many times.
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YsGuy -
Martin is not the first one. I believe Prince Fielder and Manny Ramirez beat him to it.
If we could afford Michael Young to be our utility IF, and he were willing to take such a position, I’d love to see him as a Yankee. I can’t see Texas trading him to us, nor Young taking the BU roll.
MTU-
It wasn’t a bad day until i got home. But then it was chaos.
Later folks.
What could make that difficult is that Young is owed $46 million over the remaining three seasons in contract—$15 million in each of the next two seasons and $16 million in 2013. Plus, there are only eight teams not on his no-trade list.
From this article-
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....ungsfuture
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Just curious- but what makes everyone so sure the Yankees are one of the eight teams on his No Trade List
** wait-
One of the eight teams NOT on his No Trade List
Rich-
I was not against the Soriano signing but I understand what you’re trying to get at.
Let’s just hope the Yankees find the right mixture.
Hold ‘em when they should and pull the trigger when necessary.
I’m an optimist. I expect mistakes. But I also expect some of the more talented youngsters to get their shot.
The Yankees are good at sorting out the wheat from the chaff.
“It is really unfortunate what’s happened to Michael Young, out in Texas. What exactly did he do wrong? Nothing, as far as I can see.
Too many times, loyalty seems to be a one way street.”
were the rangers supposed to not sign beltre, or not aquire arod? are they supposed to bench andrus so they can replay young’s loyalty? the rangers are trying to improve and bringing those guys in does that, whether its good for young or not.
have the yankees shown no loyalty to posada for doing the same thing to him?
and by the way, young has been paid over $90M from the rangers over his career and is currently the highest paid player on thier roster.
Nobody said that all fifteen would make it. I only said that picking the best of the group would be tricky and in the next two years, NYYs wil need to replace at least 3 and possibly four starters. Not easy since there will not be any quality pitching on the FA block. NYYs will also need to start replacing the differet parts of the pen. As of right now, there are no real needs beyond the starting rotation on this team. No reason to make deals just to deal. NYYs can afford to be picky.
“If we could afford Michael Young to be our utility IF, and he were willing to take such a position”
If he were willing tro take such a postion, he probably wouldn’t be asking the Rangers, for whom he’d probably see everyday at bats, to trade him.
Erica-
I would have preferred chaos to what I got.
Hope today is better.
Good morning everyone
Wasn’t Michael Young the best man at Alex’s wedding? Think he was the only teammate Alex had at his wedding.
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Try U Glue instead of Crazy Glue. It’s like Crazy Glue in strips so it doesn’t stick to your fingers and works just as well.
MTU February 8th, 2011 at 8:16 am
Al-
Eliminate the negative.
Accentuate the positive.
And get rid of Mr. In-between.
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That’s funny MTU, some people here, NEVER have anything positive to say, it’s away of life for them. Not saying everything is positive, it’s just for some, EVERYTHING is negative. Some kind of existence, huh?
# YsGuy February 8th, 2011 at 8:26 am
“It is really unfortunate what’s happened to Michael Young, out in Texas. What exactly did he do wrong? Nothing, as far as I can see.
Too many times, loyalty seems to be a one way street.”
were the rangers supposed to not sign beltre, or not aquire arod? are they supposed to bench andrus so they can replay young’s loyalty? the rangers are trying to improve and bringing those guys in does that, whether its good for young or not.
have the yankees shown no loyalty to posada for doing the same thing to him?
and by the way, young has been paid over $90M from the rangers over his career and is currently the highest paid player on thier roster.
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They have a right to improve the team. The problem is the mixed signals they are sending out. First they want to trade him then they don’t then they want to trade him again and then they don’t.
JCPD-
No choice for me. It’s in my nature to be positive most of the time.
I’m not a particularly nostalgic person. I try my best to live in the here and now with an eye to the future.
As long as we remain vertical there is always hope for a brighter
tomorrow.
where is this loyalty when these players are free agents? its definitly the exception when a player decides to stay with a team they like rather than take top dollar to go somewhere else, like cliff lee. in the vast majority of cases, the players want top dollar, pretty much from anyone who is willing to sign the contract. you never hear of loyalty then.
but when a player is making $15M or so per year, all of a sudden, they complain about loyalty. if young wants to play 3b, let him beat out beltre, if he wasnts ss, let him outperform andrus. he is supposed to be thier dh so he has a starting job and the people playing his former positions are better than him. so is the team supposed to lessen themselves by being loyal to him and bench someone who is better than him?
as for trading its the same thing, if trading him helps the team be better, than you trade him. there is no need to get pre-approval from the player, if he doesnt have a ntc for the team they are trading him to, the player has no say.
im not going to cry for m young, who is a good player and is being paid well above his value. im sure he didnt give the rangers a break on his salary out of loyalty, the team doesnt owe him anything that isnt in his contract. he’s just ticked that he’s not good enough to start in the infield on this team.
“the yankees are going to have to break these guys in through the back end of the rotation over the next few years, so get used to it.”
watching good new young guys break in at the back of the rotation is one of the most fun things to watch in baseball. no matter how good a guy is in the minors,you never know how he’ll perform at the mlb level , so it’s interesting to watch.
what’s the alternative for the five spot? going with veteran journeymen? i guess that’s ok in a pinch, but i like to use those guys in the four spot and have them have a little tread left on the tire. with talent spread around the league so much with revenue sharing, a team is very unlikely to be five deep in good veteran starters so it just makes sense to try to work in a young guy in the fifth spot almost every year.
randy that was my point! there is no other day to bring these guys up. people are complaining but at some point in time, every starter was brought in to the back end of someone’s rotation. that doesnt make it a transition year and it doesnt mean the team is cheaping out. there is precious little development space in an organization which is always in ‘win now’ mode, so if the yankees are going to develop young pitching, the back end of the rotaion has to be used for this purpose.
and i agree, its one of the most exciting parts of rooting for a team watching the young starters get thier chance. i think we are going to be pleasantly suprised by what we get out of the back end of our rotation this year.
JCPD -
Good morning. How’s that new gig going? I’m sure you have everything running as you wish by now.
I agree, some people only see the negative side of things, as a way of live. Not all things can be positive in life, but, always seeing things the majority of time in a negative light tells you more about the person than anything else.
MTU and I both see short comings where they exist, but like seeing the postive side of dealing with those short comings.
I’m happy with this off season. We will have some growing pains in the rotation for sure, but, in the end I feel we will be successful.
kate -
If the snow is that bad by you, why not invest in a good snow blower to clear your driveway and walks. One of my sons bought a commercial grade Husqvarna 30″ wide snow blower he uses to do side work with. This blower cuts through ice and snow as high as 24″, it even has power steering, so it’s easy to handle.