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Chavez and Prior arrive in Tampa (and me too)

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 11, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Just arrived in Tampa, having discovering this morning that it’s now possible to buy bottles of Honest Tea in the Delta terminal of LaGuardia. That’s going to make my summer just a little bit better.

The bulk of the beat writers began arriving yesterday, and a few more will get to town this weekend. Meanwhile, more and more of the people you really care about — the actual Yankees themselves — have been arriving at the team’s minor league complex.

A few Twitter highlights from today…

Eric Chavez was among the new arrivals. He said he’s been healthy all winter, and he has a “new heartbeat” with the Yankees. By the way, I blatantly stole this Chavez picture from Bryan Hoch. Let’s all say thank you by following him on Twitter.

• Worth mentioning that Chavez did some work at third base. Given his history as a Gold Glover, I doubt the Yankees are especially worried about his defense, but I guess you never know when a guy has missed as much time as Chavez missed the past three years. I’m sure he’s just taking grounders as a matter of course.

• Also new to the scene, and apparently healthy: Minor league signee Mark Prior.

Prospects Dellin Betances and Adam Warren were among the pitchers throwing bullpen sessions this morning.

• Lefty Neal Cotts, signed to a minor league deal this winter, also threw a bullpen.

• Other position players at the complex today: Curtis Granderson, Russell Martin, Francisco Cervelli, Colin Curtis and Jesus Montero. I’m sure there were others, but those were mentioned by name on Twitter.

• Other pitchers at the complex: Andrew Brackman, Ivan Nova and Phil Hughes. Again, I’m sure there were plenty of others, but those were mentioned specifically by the reporters who beat me to Florida.

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206 Responses to “Chavez and Prior arrive in Tampa (and me too)”

  1. Jerkface February 11th, 2011 at 3:11 pm

    whatever WAR says, it doesnt pass the smell test.

    drew is no $15M player.

    not anywhere near the worst contract around, but not worth $15M

    No players, once they are passed team control, are worth what they are paid. Matsui and Damon were not worth 13 mil. I’d gladly pay both of them that again or more because we won in 2009.

  2. YankeesNmore February 11th, 2011 at 3:16 pm

    So Chavez has “a new heartbeat” with the Yankees.

    Now if he could just figure out a way to get a new back and a new neck… Maybe that flux capacitor Cashman is presumably working on is the answer.

  3. yanks61 February 11th, 2011 at 3:16 pm

    GreenBeret7 February 11th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
    Y61, brain lock. I was for some reason thinking Sain was a lefty. I confused him with Lopat.

    ——————————————-

    GB, you’ve probably forgotten more Yankee history than I can
    remember.

    Do recall if Sain kept a “chaw” of tobacco in his cheek when he pitched? I saw him a few on TV and at YS, and that image sticks in my mind. But I could be confusing him with someone else, too.

    Final dumb bit of history on Sain. While he was a pitching coach, he had a face lift. As Jack Paar used to say, I kid you not! He did it, he said, because his wife wanted one but was afraid to get it done. So he said he’d do it to show her there was nothing to it!

  4. blake February 11th, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    “Daniel Bard told Rob Bradford of WEEI.com that he would like to try starting again and has not discussed an extension with the Red Sox.”

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com

    interesting….

  5. YankeesNmore February 11th, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    “No players, once they are passed team control, are worth what they are paid.”
    ——————————————————————————-
    That’s a pretty tough statement to make unless you know the numbers baseball is making as a sport.

    The players are the ones generating all that revenue.

  6. Ys Guy February 11th, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    first off, drew averaged only 441 ab/yr for the socks. so just to start out they had to pay him $15M and then pay someone else to bat the other 150 times a sterter should have played.
    and what player worth $15M doesnt drive in 70 runs, score 90 runs, steal 5 bases or hit 25 homers.
    according to WAR, nancy drew is that player…for 4 consecutive years, no less!

  7. Fran the original February 11th, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    Chad, glad you had a good trip. Looking forward to your great spring training coverage.

  8. Jerkface February 11th, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    That’s a pretty tough statement to make unless you know the numbers baseball is making as a sport.

    There is always going to be a cheaper player doing as good as you are, and even if you are the best player in your area the marginal gains over the 2nd place won’t be worth the extra millions you’re paid to provide it and the chance that the players paid less than you will exceed your output is too great.

  9. GreenBeret7 February 11th, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    Y61, I don’t think i’ve ever seen sain or Lopat without a chaw. Not sure how an Italian kid from Brooklyn got hooked on chaw, but Pepitone was another Yankee that was never without.

  10. Ys Guy February 11th, 2011 at 3:26 pm

    with those kinds of #’s drew would have to play CF AND RF to be worth $15M!

  11. Jerkface February 11th, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    first off, drew averaged only 441 ab/yr for the socks. so just to start out they had to pay him $15M and then pay someone else to bat the other 150 times a sterter should have played.
    and what player worth $15M doesnt drive in 70 runs, score 90 runs, steal 5 bases or hit 25 homers.
    according to WAR, nancy drew is that player…for 4 consecutive years, no less!

    His salary is 14 mil not 15 mil, and by using ABs you’re leaving out one of his greatest strengths which is walking. He averaged 550 PA.

  12. GreenBeret7 February 11th, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    Y61, that In-Sain face lift story was a new one on me. Thanks. Any videos of Sain and Lopat pitching was always with a chaw….like Sparky Lyle and Guidry.

  13. Cashmoney February 11th, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    tried chewing tobacco once as a teenage, forgot the brand, all i remember is sickly licorice sweet taste.

  14. Against All Odds February 11th, 2011 at 3:29 pm

    # blake February 11th, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    “Daniel Bard told Rob Bradford of WEEI.com that he would like to try starting again and has not discussed an extension with the Red Sox.”

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com

    interesting….

    ——————

    I remember a couple of yrs ago Steve Phillips said the Red Sox should trade Papelbon because they could get a good haul for him. Phillips also said that Pap still wants to start somewhere down the line.

    Lol I know money plays a role but is being a reliever that bad :D. What’s next Mo coming out and stating he would like to end his career in the rotation.

  15. YankeesNmore February 11th, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    There is always going to be a cheaper player doing as good as you are, and even if you are the best player in your area the marginal gains over the 2nd place won’t be worth the extra millions you’re paid to provide it and the chance that the players paid less than you will exceed your output is too great.
    ———————————————————————————
    So the Yankees should have signed Derek Lowe instead of CC Sabathia and Casey Kotchman instead of Mark Teixeira.

  16. austinmac February 11th, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    GB,

    I remember Johnny Sain, during his coaching years, used some device to help learn to throw a curve. It was a rotating baseball on a stick or pole.

    I never got one. That is likely the cause of not being a major league pitcher.

  17. Patrick February 11th, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    I don’t think Drew is worth his entire contract because he misses a lot of time and has had 2/4 down years. BUT it’s not the worst contract in the world… like it’s not as bad as the Pavano contract was for the Yankees.

  18. Ys Guy February 11th, 2011 at 3:31 pm

    actually he averaged 523 pa’s per year and how else do you justify $14M with those other stats?

  19. YankeesNmore February 11th, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    There is always going to be a cheaper player doing as good as you are, and even if you are the best player in your area the marginal gains over the 2nd place won’t be worth the extra millions you’re paid to provide it and the chance that the players paid less than you will exceed your output is too great.
    ————————————————————————————–
    That’s the recipe of the Pittsburgh Pirates, Florida Marlins and the KC Royals are using.

  20. jackamir February 11th, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    I’m in Vegas and I can smell Spring Training. New leather and sweaty socks. It’s official, it’s a new year and hope springs eternal…..Question marks, I hope, turn to exclamation marks.

  21. Ys Guy February 11th, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    my original post specifically said it was nowhere near the worst contract around. i was pointing out that if WAR say he is worth $14M with those stats then WAR is obviously flawed.

  22. Jerkface February 11th, 2011 at 3:34 pm

    actually he averaged 523 pa’s per year and how else do you justify $14M with those other stats?

    What were other players paid at his position? What did the Red Sox do while he was paid to play for them? What other choices were available?

    I don’t think its the best contract, but it isn’t an ugly contract. I don’t think the Yankees paying swisher more than 10 mil a year would be bad, just like I don’t think paying Damon and Matsui 13 mil were bad.

    If you are using a JD Drew type standard, the yankees are full of ugly contracts: Jeter, A-rod, CC, AJ, Soriano, Posada, etc.

  23. GreenBeret7 February 11th, 2011 at 3:34 pm

    austinmac February 11th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
    GB,

    I remember Johnny Sain, during his coaching years, used some device to help learn to throw a curve. It was a rotating baseball on a stick or pole.

    I never got one. That is likely the cause of not being a major league pitcher.

  24. BoJo February 11th, 2011 at 3:35 pm

    Glad to see Mark Prior showing up early. I expect him to do well, because, afterall, he has had Prior experience.

  25. Jerkface February 11th, 2011 at 3:35 pm

    my original post specifically said it was nowhere near the worst contract around. i was pointing out that if WAR say he is worth $14M with those stats then WAR is obviously flawed.

    The WAR stat does not say that, its people analyzing how teams spend and the increase in WAR vs dollar amounts. Teams spend stupid amounts of money for wins. The best deals in sports are the cheap, cost controlled players that are good.

    Everything else is ‘not worth it’.

  26. Ys Guy February 11th, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    again my post had nothing to do with the worst contract ever, someone else said that, i was reacting to whoever said WAR says he is worth more than he was paid.

  27. GreenBeret7 February 11th, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    austinmac February 11th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
    GB,

    I remember Johnny Sain, during his coaching years, used some device to help learn to throw a curve. It was a rotating baseball on a stick or pole.

    I never got one. That is likely the cause of not being a major league pitcher.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Yeah, he drilled a hole through a baseball and put it on a spindle. I’ll see it I can find it. He used it to help Jim Kaat.

  28. Against All Odds February 11th, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    So CC didn’t shed 30 pounds or am I just reading things wring

    “I don’t believe it,” Cashman said. “I saw him (last week) at the B.A.T. dinner and he didn’t look like he lost 30 pounds to me. Maybe half that amount. We haven’t weighed him so I don’t now where that number comes from.”

    “He obviously has worked very hard to rehab his knee and he’s lost some weight, but he’s still around 300 pounds,” Cashman said.”Clearly, he’s a tremendous athlete and he can handle it , but it has to be managed so it doesn’t become a problem. I just think 30 pounds would have been a lot more noticeable.”

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-yo.....eight-loss

  29. BoJo February 11th, 2011 at 3:38 pm

    Patrick February 11th, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    I don’t think Drew is worth his entire contract because he misses a lot of time and has had 2/4 down years. BUT it’s not the worst contract in the world… like it’s not as bad as the Pavano contract was for the Yankees.
    ++++++++++
    Or Ollie Perez for Mets.

  30. YankeesNmore February 11th, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    “He obviously has worked very hard to rehab his knee and he’s lost some weight, but he’s still around 300 pounds,” Cashman said.”Clearly, he’s a tremendous athlete and he can handle it , but it has to be managed so it doesn’t become a problem. I just think 30 pounds would have been a lot more noticeable.”
    ———————————————————————————–
    Quotes like that (and at the Soriano presser), combined with the moves he’s made this offseason, are enough to make me think Cashman is TRYING to get fired.

    Perhaps Cashman realizes what a disaster he’s “built” and doesn’t want to be around to take the heat for it… Better to get fired and collect the rest of your contract while sitting on your @$$ at home.

  31. BoJo February 11th, 2011 at 3:43 pm

    I have seen a number of analyses on blogs like TYU, RAB, and Fangraphs that evaluate deals based on WAR with each point being worth a specific amount. One number that I recall from 2 years ago was $4.6M per WAR point.

    The calculation has been used to evaluate GM signings on several occasions…so I used it here.

    It may be flawed, but it provides a consistent base for comparison.

  32. tyanksfan36 February 11th, 2011 at 3:44 pm

    Chad

    Welcome to Tampa! Its chilly here but I bet its a lot warmer than where you’ve been.

  33. yanks61 February 11th, 2011 at 3:44 pm

    GreenBeret7 February 11th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
    Y61, I don’t think i’ve ever seen sain or Lopat without a chaw

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    Thanks GB. I’m reassured that I’m not losing my memory altogether!

  34. Against All Odds February 11th, 2011 at 3:45 pm

    # YankeesNmore February 11th, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    “He obviously has worked very hard to rehab his knee and he’s lost some weight, but he’s still around 300 pounds,” Cashman said.”Clearly, he’s a tremendous athlete and he can handle it , but it has to be managed so it doesn’t become a problem. I just think 30 pounds would have been a lot more noticeable.”
    ———————————————————————————–
    Quotes like that (and at the Soriano presser), combined with the moves he’s made this offseason, are enough to make me think Cashman is TRYING to get fired.

    Perhaps Cashman realizes what a disaster he’s “built” and doesn’t want to be around to take the heat for it… Better to get fired and collect the rest of your contract while sitting on your @$$ at home.

    —————————————-

    On the board I’ve seen these quotes on many have the same belief that you do.

    I don’t think he’s trying to get fired but his comments over the past couple of months have been very blunt.

  35. Patrick February 11th, 2011 at 3:46 pm

    Yes I hate it when my team’s GM tells the truth, I hope he’s fired!

  36. BoJo February 11th, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    Quick video of Johnny Sain in 1949

    http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=56542

  37. Against All Odds February 11th, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    On other message boards that I’ve been to many ppl share the same belief.*

  38. Patrick February 11th, 2011 at 3:48 pm

    One number that I recall from 2 years ago was $4.6M per WAR point.

    A win above replacement is worth different amounts to different teams.

  39. GreenBeret7 February 11th, 2011 at 3:51 pm

    Y61, here’s a picture of the johnny sain spinner…item #9, scroll down

    https://www.amherst.edu/aboutamherst/magazine/officespace/thurston

  40. Doreen February 11th, 2011 at 3:52 pm

    Hard to spin that quote. Is it the whole quote by Cashman? Did he say it, like, wow, you would think a 30-pound loss would be more noticeable?

    I seriously doubt Cashman is trying to get fired, but is he on some kind of medication that makes one tell speak unfiltered?

    He used to be more, well, diplomatic? Vanilla? Circumlocutory?

  41. Bad Scooter February 11th, 2011 at 3:55 pm

    We have a disaster on our hands?

    Our lineup will lead the league or be very close to leading the league in runs again this year and our bullpen will be lights out. We have CC, Hughes, AJ, Nova and Garcia in the rotation and a ton of time to make that better and the chips to do it. Many teams and their fans would like a disaster like that.

  42. Against All Odds February 11th, 2011 at 3:55 pm

    # Doreen February 11th, 2011 at 3:52 pm

    Hard to spin that quote. Is it the whole quote by Cashman? Did he say it, like, wow, you would think a 30-pound loss would be more noticeable?

    I seriously doubt Cashman is trying to get fired, but is he on some kind of medication that makes one tell speak unfiltered?

    He used to be more, well, diplomatic? Vanilla? Circumlocutory?

    —————————–

    Maybe it’s a mid life crisis.

  43. GreenBeret7 February 11th, 2011 at 3:55 pm

    Jesus…get off of the weight whine. at least can it until the official pre-camp weigh-ins on Monday. They’ll be talking about it for days.t

  44. Doreen February 11th, 2011 at 3:56 pm

    Maybe it’s harder to have your words twisted by someone else when you’re blunt?

    There’s nothing inherently wrong with what he said. It just sounds so – well, let’s put it this way, when my daughter starts talking to people she doesn’t know, I don’t want to hurt their feelings, so I’ll say, “Don’t talk to people you don’t know” instead of “Don’t talk to strangers” because it sounds too harsh a description for the elderly people in the neighborhood StopNShop.

  45. Doreen February 11th, 2011 at 3:56 pm

    Against All Odds,

    If it is, I’m totally empathetic!!!!

  46. SJ44 February 11th, 2011 at 3:58 pm

    The first problem is you announcing you are “thinking” in your daily stalking of Cashman.

    “Thinking never seems to help develop an original thought.

    Yes, he should look to get fired from a team projected to win 92-100 games this year by those who calculate these things.

    Shame on Cashman for putting together such a “bad” team!!

  47. Against All Odds February 11th, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    Doreen,

    So am I if that’s case.

    Maybe he just feels like speaking his mind

  48. YankeesNmore February 11th, 2011 at 4:01 pm

    Stop being such a hater, Sj.

    You need to have a coke and a smile… Enjoy life more.

    Swing on by http://newyorkyankeesnmore.blogspot.com/ … you’ll feel better. ;-)

  49. GreenBeret7 February 11th, 2011 at 4:01 pm

    Doreen, if your daughter comes on to this board, telling her not to talk to strangers isn’t a bad idea. Nobody stranger than some of the inhabitants on here.

  50. Ys Guy February 11th, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    why does anyone have to spin anything. cash thinks he lost 15 lbs. what does it matter? i suppose this might be the first time a player ever exaggerated the amount of weight he lost or used a figure that is not longer accurate…

    and who cares anyway, do you really think cc is going to care?

  51. Ys Guy February 11th, 2011 at 4:03 pm

    so its coke is it? that explains alot…

  52. blake February 11th, 2011 at 4:05 pm

    I really don’t get this “maybe Cashman is trying to get fired stuff”…..that just sounds ridiculous. Maybe he should tie one of the WS tropheys to the back of his car and drive around the stadium parking lot…….

  53. GreenBeret7 February 11th, 2011 at 4:05 pm

    no problem here with Sabathia’s weight. It helps him to throw that “heavy” fastball.

  54. YankeesNmore February 11th, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    “Maybe he should tie one of the WS tropheys to the back of his car and drive around the stadium parking lot…….”
    —————————————————————————
    BRILLIANT Seinfeld moment!

  55. Jerkface February 11th, 2011 at 4:07 pm

    why does anyone have to spin anything. cash thinks he lost 15 lbs. what does it matter? i suppose this might be the first time a player ever exaggerated the amount of weight he lost or used a figure that is not longer accurate…

    I don’t think CC Sabathia ever said he lost 30 pounds? Not sure, I thought Media did.

  56. Doreen February 11th, 2011 at 4:08 pm

    Ys Guy -

    Just passing time with conversation, that’s all.

  57. GreenBeret7 February 11th, 2011 at 4:08 pm

    Crap. I was hoping that a dog ate Larry’s computer…with his fingers still attached.

  58. Erica in NY February 11th, 2011 at 4:09 pm

    I once knew a Controller at a client who was trying to get fired.

    She had a surprisingly hard time.

    Finally she allowed all of the insurance policies on the company cars lapse and no one could drive them until it was sorted out. Then she was fired. LOL

  59. Central Scrutinizer February 11th, 2011 at 4:09 pm

    Hey Guys…..

    Back to the last thread…

    Albert Belle and the Oriole contract as the worst?

    Someone earlier mentioned insurance and I thought the orioles got some of the money back?

    Anyone remember?

  60. Cashmoney February 11th, 2011 at 4:09 pm

    “Maybe he should tie one of the WS tropheys to the back of his car and drive around the stadium parking lot…….”
    —————
    googling ‘Cashman’ and ‘arking spot’ … stay tuned.

  61. YankeesNmore February 11th, 2011 at 4:11 pm

    “Crap. I was hoping that a dog ate Larry’s computer…with his fingers still attached.”
    ——————————————————————–
    Come on, GB. The world doesn’t need more haters… Try being a part of the solution instead of part of the problem.

  62. BoJo February 11th, 2011 at 4:13 pm

    Norman–

    No offense…but whoever did your website needs to consider that viewers hate to scroll horizontally. It is easy enough to set the width of your columns to adjust to window width…think about it.

  63. Doreen February 11th, 2011 at 4:15 pm

    Jerkface -

    Actually it was Buster Olney quoting an “AL Source” who said CC lost 30 pounds.

  64. YankeesNmore February 11th, 2011 at 4:15 pm

    “No offense…but whoever did your website needs to consider that viewers hate to scroll horizontally. It is easy enough to set the width of your columns to adjust to window width…think about it.”
    ———————————————————————————
    I did set custom widths, with folks who have big boy computers in mind. The future is the wide screen monitor, my friend.

  65. Ys Guy February 11th, 2011 at 4:17 pm

    its a funny time in the baseball calendar. p’s & c’s are reporting next week and baseball is almost in the air, but in fact we are still at the stage that anything anybody says gets a huge reaction. someone tweeted that joba looked chubby and the internet almost burned down.

    the thing you have to remember though is that when p’s and c’s report, there is still nothing going on. terms like ‘throwing freely’ or ‘looks a little heavy’ send shock waves reverberating on this blog.

    it all means nothing till mid march anyway, but what else do we have to get fired up about?

  66. Erin February 11th, 2011 at 4:17 pm

    blake February 11th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
    I really don?t get this ?maybe Cashman is trying to get fired stuff??..that just sounds ridiculous. Maybe he should tie one of the WS tropheys to the back of his car and drive around the stadium parking lot??.

    ********************************

    :lol:

    He’d have to do the dialogue too:
    Attention Steinbrenner and front-office morons! Your triumphs mean
    nothing. You all stink. You can sit on it, and rotate! This is George Costanza.
    I fear no reprisal. Extension five-one-seven-oh.

  67. Jerkface February 11th, 2011 at 4:17 pm

    Actually it was Buster Olney quoting an “AL Source” who said CC lost 30 pounds.

    Yea so if anything Cashman is protecting CC from an onslaught of: HE DIDN’T LOSE 30 LBS!! WHAT A LAZY SOB!

  68. Yankee Trader February 11th, 2011 at 4:18 pm

    GB7-

    Hope you’re well. The 61 Yanks were one of my favorite teams and Johnny Blanchard, I agree was an unsung hero. However Jim Coates was one of my least favorite players. He did go 11-5 that year, but correct me if I’m wrong, I recall that he came into many games in relief with runners on, allowing them to score, and the Yankees went on to win either breaking a tie or runs behind which Coates had created, but he got the win.

  69. yanks61 February 11th, 2011 at 4:18 pm

    GB, thanks for that Sain spin story! I think I heard something about it once, but never actually saw it.

    By the way, you mentioned Eddie Lopat and it reminded me of how he was proof positive that you don’t always need speed to succeed. Slow, slower and slowest – drove batters batty. Then along came little Stu Miller, who upped (or lowered!) the ante on slowness. Do you recall when he was blown off the mound during the 61 All Star game (I think at Candlestick – of course?)

    Well, good afternoon, it’s getting a bit late here.

  70. Doreen February 11th, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    And the exact quote was “about 30 pounds.”

    I don’t know why I’ve attached myself to this piece of trivia. My brain is truly fried this week. I think this is a subject that takes the least amount of actual thought. :)

  71. BoJo February 11th, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    I have a semi- widescreen with a 1200×800 resolution. That is still a typical laptop screen size.

    Your programmers should have used a width parameter in their CSS code to adjust the columns to accomodate any viewer. Just standard practice. Use the advice if it helps, ignore it if you wish.

  72. Erin February 11th, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    Jerkface February 11th, 2011 at 4:17 pm

    Yea so if anything Cashman is protecting CC from an onslaught of: HE DIDN?T LOSE 30 LBS!! WHAT A LAZY SOB!

    ******************************

    :lol:

  73. LGY February 11th, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    In what way would getting fired benefit Brian Cashman???

  74. blake February 11th, 2011 at 4:21 pm

    Erin,

    :)

  75. YankeesNmore February 11th, 2011 at 4:23 pm

    “In what way would getting fired benefit Brian Cashman???”
    —————————————————————
    Still gets paid and he doesn’t have to take the heat when this ridiculous rotation sinks the 2011 Yankees.

  76. blake February 11th, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    SI_JonHeyman #yankees still considering millwood. innings eater. #canthurt

  77. LGY February 11th, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    I read a story a few months ago about this guy who ran an online contact lens company and he would treat his customers absolutely terrible. Stalk them, threaten them, send the wrong things, you name it. He got so many negative reviews online that his website kept getting higher and higher on google searches when people were looking to buy contacts. The more negative reviews he got the more business he got.

    I hope people on here are not actually clicking on Yankeesnomoreplease’s website benefiting his idiocy on here.

  78. Yankee Trader February 11th, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    Is this the quote some people are up in arms about?

    Here’s what Cashman told Wallace Matthews of ESPN.com after seeing Sabathia in person recently:

    “I don’t believe it. I saw him at the B.A.T. dinner and he didn’t look like he lost 30 pounds to me. Maybe half that amount. We haven’t weighed him so I don’t now where that number comes from. He obviously has worked very hard to rehab his knee and he’s lost some weight, but he’s still around 300 pounds. Clearly, he’s a tremendous athlete and he can handle it , but it has to be managed so it doesn’t become a problem. I just think 30 pounds would have been a lot more noticeable.”

  79. jacksquat February 11th, 2011 at 4:25 pm

    Doreen February 11th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
    Hard to spin that quote. Is it the whole quote by Cashman? Did he say it, like, wow, you would think a 30-pound loss would be more noticeable?

    I seriously doubt Cashman is trying to get fired, but is he on some kind of medication that makes one tell speak unfiltered?

    He used to be more, well, diplomatic? Vanilla? Circumlocutory?

    Haha, next thing you know he’ll develop Tourette syndrome. :D

  80. blake February 11th, 2011 at 4:25 pm

    I think YankeesNmore probably spent more time on his website than most other Red Sox fans would have….

  81. jacksquat February 11th, 2011 at 4:26 pm

    blake February 11th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
    SI_JonHeyman #yankees still considering millwood. innings eater. #canthurt

    #CANhurt

    please, no millwood

  82. yanks61 February 11th, 2011 at 4:26 pm

    Yankee Trader February 11th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
    GB7-

    Hope you’re well. The 61 Yanks were one of my favorite teams and Johnny Blanchard, I agree was an unsung hero.

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    YT – One last thing. You might have guessed that the 61 Yanks were my favorite team – for lots and lots of reasons, including “Blanch,” and a bunch of others most people have long ago forgotten. Another personal favorite of mine was little Luis Arroyo and his screwball – Whitey Ford’s caddy. I wrecked my arm trying to throw a screwball that year as a college freshman. It does wonders for your arm, I can tell you!

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  86. blake February 11th, 2011 at 4:28 pm

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  87. YankeesNmore February 11th, 2011 at 4:29 pm

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    Kevin freakin’ Millwood is now viewed as a guy who “can’t hurt” the Yankees’ rotation.

  88. Yankee Trader February 11th, 2011 at 4:31 pm

    yanks 61-

    Arroyo definitely another favorite. I had no problem throwing a screwball——-but it was with a whiffle ball. Screwball-not the way your arm was supposed to be torqued!!

  89. GreenBeret7 February 11th, 2011 at 4:32 pm

    Y61. Miller getting blown off the mound at Candlestick was bizarre, to say the least. Then he comes to Yankee Stadium about 6 years later and gives up Mantle’s 500th homer. Good little pitcher. Yanks always had great luck with little pitchers like Ford, Lopat, Sain, Shantz and Guidry.

    Coates did blow a few wins, but, all in all, he had a few good years starting and relieving for NYYs.

    Funny story about Casey Stengel’s wife Edna and Coates. She was traveling with the Yanks on a plane trip and Coates was sitting across the aisle from them. She looked over at Coates and turned towards Casey in shock, saying” Dear, I think one of your players is dead”. Coates had the Ichabod Craine look. mantle said he had an endorsement to put his picture on poison bottles (skull and crossbones). anyway, stengel looks over at Coates and tells his wife not to worry..he was just sleeping. He slept with his eyes open.

  90. joeman February 11th, 2011 at 4:33 pm

    # YankeesNmore February 11th, 2011 at 4:29 pm

    “SI_JonHeyman #yankees still considering millwood. innings eater. #canthurt”
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    If you want to know just how pathetic Brian Cashman has been at his job over the last 15 months or so, look no further than this tweet from Heyman…

    Kevin freakin’ Millwood is now viewed as a guy who “can’t hurt” the Yankees’ rotation.
    —————————————
    really 4-16 last year with over 5 era……yep can’t hurt or help

  91. SJ44 February 11th, 2011 at 4:33 pm

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    You would probably have more success if you weren’t a single minded/single subject whiny stalker.

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  92. joeman February 11th, 2011 at 4:36 pm

    Millwood…innings eater ????…..5 times in 14 years over 200 innings

  93. YankeesNmore February 11th, 2011 at 4:36 pm

    Come on, Sj… Try being part of the solution rather than part of the problem.

  94. tom tresh 15 February 11th, 2011 at 4:37 pm

    GreenBeret7 February 11th, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    Y61, that In-Sain face lift story was a new one on me. Thanks. Any videos of Sain and Lopat pitching was always with a chaw….like Sparky Lyle and Guidry
    *************************************************************************
    I remember when I was younger and trying to play a little baseball and softball , it was almost a requirement to chew. It did not hurt that this was in NC also

  95. YankeesNmore February 11th, 2011 at 4:38 pm

    RSIP Chuck Tanner.

    I believe I have 2 or 3 signed 8×10′s of Chuch stashed away somewhere… $$$$$$$$

  96. joeman February 11th, 2011 at 4:38 pm

    # upstate kate February 11th, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    30 pounds for someone who weighs 300 pounds to begin with might not be that noticable.

    Geez, did everyone else have a bad week too? I am sooo happy it is finally Friday, and am hoping there are no more storms this weekend!
    ———————————
    I’m happy this crap is starting to melt, should be all gone by mid April

  97. GreenBeret7 February 11th, 2011 at 4:39 pm

    Yankee Trader February 11th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
    GB7-

    Hope you’re well. The 61 Yanks were one of my favorite teams and Johnny Blanchard, I agree was an unsung hero.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Doing great here, Trader. Thanks for asking. hope all is well with you and the Trader family. That ’61 team was special. People seem to remember them as robots, but, that team had a lot of character and a lot of characters, too. Was there anything better than watching The Major explode? Nobody did it better.

  98. Patrick February 11th, 2011 at 4:40 pm

    YankeesNmore, you are an idiot, go away.

  99. upstate kate February 11th, 2011 at 4:42 pm

    joeman
    ours isn’t melting at all…still too cold, but at least it is sunny today

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  101. GreenBeret7 February 11th, 2011 at 4:42 pm

    tom tresh 15 February 11th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
    GreenBeret7 February 11th, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    Y61, that In-Sain face lift story was a new one on me. Thanks. Any videos of Sain and Lopat pitching was always with a chaw….like Sparky Lyle and Guidry
    *************************************************************************
    I remember when I was younger and trying to play a little baseball and softball , it was almost a requirement to chew. It did not hurt that this was in NC also

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    you never tried Jim Bouton’s “Big League Chew”, the shredded bubble gum in a tobacco pouch?

  102. YankeesNmore February 11th, 2011 at 4:43 pm

    Come on, guys… It takes fewer muscles to smile than it does to frown.

    Life is too short to get this peaced over something so silly.

    Smile!

  103. Yankee Trader February 11th, 2011 at 4:44 pm

    GB-7

    You’re testing me. I had to google Ralph Houk to recall he was called “The Major.”

    Houk was a catcher working his way through the Yankees’ farm system when the U.S. entered World War II. He enlisted in the armed forces, became an Army Ranger, and rose to Major (the source of his Yankee nickname). He was a combat veteran of Bastogne and the Battle of the Bulge, and was awarded the Bronze Star, Purple Heart, and the Silver Star with oak clusters.

  104. joeman February 11th, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    # upstate kate February 11th, 2011 at 4:42 pm

    joeman
    ours isn’t melting at all…still too cold, but at least it is sunny today
    —————————————————————————————————-
    we’ve had a lot of houses and buildings crumble because of the weight of the snow, haven’t ever remember that happening

  105. joeman February 11th, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    Chavez 100% ..don’t believe it but if he is thats a huge boost to this team

  106. Patrick February 11th, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    Come on, guys… It takes fewer muscles to smile than it does to frown.

    Life is too short to get this peaced over something so silly.

    Smile!

    Take your own advice

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    GB,

    Good find on the spinner. Impressive.

    Didn’t Ellie Howard market the first bat donut?

  108. tom tresh 15 February 11th, 2011 at 4:53 pm

    GreenBeret7 February 11th, 2011 at 4:42 pm

    tom tresh 15 February 11th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
    GreenBeret7 February 11th, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    Y61, that In-Sain face lift story was a new one on me. Thanks. Any videos of Sain and Lopat pitching was always with a chaw….like Sparky Lyle and Guidry
    *************************************************************************
    I remember when I was younger and trying to play a little baseball and softball , it was almost a requirement to chew. It did not hurt that this was in NC also

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    you never tried Jim Bouton’s “Big League Chew”, the shredded bubble gum in a tobacco pouch?

    ************************************************************************

    Yes I did GB. Somehow it just was not the same LOL

  109. joeman February 11th, 2011 at 4:54 pm

    a healthy Chavez & A Jones will make the 11 Yankees will be better on offense, they will need it though have to believe SP era will be higher

  110. GreenBeret7 February 11th, 2011 at 4:54 pm

    Yankee Trader February 11th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
    GB-7

    You’re testing me. I had to google Ralph Houk to recall he was called “The Major.”

    Houk was a catcher working his way through the Yankees’ farm system when the U.S. entered World War II. He enlisted in the armed forces, became an Army Ranger, and rose to Major (the source of his Yankee nickname). He was a combat veteran of Bastogne and the Battle of the Bulge, and was awarded the Bronze Star, Purple Heart, and the Silver Star with oak clusters.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    yankees had a couple of war heoes through the years. Hank Bauer was a Bronze Star and PH winner in the Marines on Buadalcanal and Iwo.

    Mike burke, former President of the Yankees was Wild Bill Donavon’s right hand man in Europe with the OSS. Parachuted into the Balkins to meet with Marshal tito to set up training and resupply the Yugo troops against the Germans. Trained former catcher Moe Berg and was sent in to attempt an assasination of a german scientist working on the atomic bomb. They made a movie about a couple of his escapades with Gary Cooper playing Burke’s part (Cloak And Dagger).

  111. tom tresh 15 February 11th, 2011 at 4:54 pm

    Also GB, My first memories of MLB as a kid was the 61 Yankees. Gosh ,what a team. Who could forget the HR race ?

  112. joeman February 11th, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    # tom tresh 15 February 11th, 2011 at 4:53 pm

    GreenBeret7 February 11th, 2011 at 4:42 pm

    tom tresh 15 February 11th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
    GreenBeret7 February 11th, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    Y61, that In-Sain face lift story was a new one on me. Thanks. Any videos of Sain and Lopat pitching was always with a chaw….like Sparky Lyle and Guidry
    *************************************************************************
    I remember when I was younger and trying to play a little baseball and softball , it was almost a requirement to chew. It did not hurt that this was in NC also

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    you never tried Jim Bouton’s “Big League Chew”, the shredded bubble gum in a tobacco pouch?

    ************************************************************************

    Yes I did GB. Somehow it just was not the same LOL
    ——————————————————————————————-
    in my days I use to mix it

  113. GreenBeret7 February 11th, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    austinmac February 11th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
    GB,

    Good find on the spinner. Impressive.

    Didn’t Ellie Howard market the first bat donut?

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Yes, he did. Hey…our Yankees aren’t just a bunch of pretty faces. They got brains.

  114. Erica in NY February 11th, 2011 at 4:56 pm

    Patrick-

    Did you see my reply to you on the last thread?

  115. tom tresh 15 February 11th, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    Those WWII guys have my utmost respect

  116. BoJo February 11th, 2011 at 4:58 pm

    austinmac February 11th, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    GB,

    Good find on the spinner. Impressive.

    Didn’t Ellie Howard market the first bat donut?
    ++++++++++++
    I used to have that first donut as part of my baseball memorabilia but of course my mom threw it out while cleaning. Ellie did market it..

  117. Irreverent Discourse February 11th, 2011 at 4:58 pm

    War Dollars (like the dollars field on fangraphs) to not evaluate contracts or their worth.

    WAR Dollars are how much money you would have to spend in Free Agency to replace that players value. It is adjusted every season based on inflation. This year I believe it was set to $5.5m per 1 WAR.

  118. joeman February 11th, 2011 at 4:58 pm

    # tom tresh 15 February 11th, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    Those WWII guys have my utmost respect
    ————————————————————————–
    all guys that fought in wars get my respect, everyone of them

  119. BoJo February 11th, 2011 at 4:59 pm

    Wasn’t Jerry Coleman another war hero?

  120. GreenBeret7 February 11th, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    Tommy T., I don’t think the ’78 Yanks could have beaten that team. The ’27 Yanks/’36 yanks/’61 Yanks may have tied for the best ever. The ’61 team was just amazing. They had no flaws. If Houk had allowed it, they could have run teams ragged. People never remember just how fast Maris, Mantle and Richardson really were.

  121. Patrick February 11th, 2011 at 5:02 pm

    Did you see my reply to you on the last thread?

    Yes, sounds like a relaxing trip. Are you still in the middle of “busy time” at work?

  122. Erica in NY February 11th, 2011 at 5:03 pm

    Patrick February 11th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
    Did you see my reply to you on the last thread?

    Yes, sounds like a relaxing trip. Are you still in the middle of “busy time” at work?

    **************

    Yeah. I don’t have any type of normalcy again until April 18th.

    I have been doing 55-60 hours for 4 straight weeks now.

  123. GreenBeret7 February 11th, 2011 at 5:06 pm

    Coleman was a fighter pilot in the Marines in WWII in the Pacific and in Korea. ted williams was a flight instructor in Florida during WWII. Jet fighter pilot in Korea and was John Glenn’s wing man. Baseball had a good amount of war heroes, like Bob Feller and Warren Spahn, PH, Broze star and battle field commission at the Battle Of The Bulge.

  124. Yankee Trader February 11th, 2011 at 5:07 pm

    Bojo-

    On Jerry Coleman:

    Nicknamed “The Colonel”, due to being promoted to the rank of Lieutenant Colonel, Coleman was also a Marine aviator and left baseball to serve in the Korean War, and postponing his entry into professional baseball in World War II. While a Marine Corps aviator he flew 120 combat missions, receiving numerous honors and medals including two Distinguished Flying Crosses, and has been honored in recent years, including being inducted into the USMC Sports Hall of Fame, for his call to duty—even more so following the events of September 11, 2001.

    He is the only Major League Baseball player to have seen combat in two wars, though not the only player to serve as Marine aviator in two wars, a distinction he shares with Ted Williams. Williams, however, served in combat only in the Korean War, having served as a flight instructor during World War II.

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