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The good, the bad and the unknown

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 13, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Yankees pitchers and catchers report to Tampa in less than 24 hours. The offseason is essentially over, teams have finished their winter maneuvering, but if you dig through baseball, you’ll find that no team is perfect. No organization answered every question and patched every hole. The Phillies aren’t perfect. The Red Sox aren’t perfect. The Yankees aren’t perfect.

I thought it was best to wrap up the Pinch Hitters series with something positive on the day before camp opens, and James did that nicely. The season is not over before pitchers and catchers report.

It says a lot that the Yankees — given their potent lineup and deep bullpen — are seen as such a question mark this season. It’s all because of their rotation, because starters are important enough to make the Phillies a favorite and the Yankees an unknown. I don’t disagree, but pitchers and catchers report tomorrow morning, ad the Yankees are much like every other team in baseball: A mix of good, bad and unknown.

Rotation

Good – CC Sabathia is a legitimate ace, one of the top pitchers in the game in terms of both dominance and durability… Phil Hughes was an all-star in his first full season as a starter, beginning to live up to the considerable potential that’s been touted for a half-decade… After a terrific Triple-A season, Ivan Nova held his own during a big league call-up late last season… When he’s good, A.J. Burnett can be one of the best No. 2 starters in baseball.

Bad — Burnett is coming off the worst season of his career, a season so bad that he was held out of the ALDS rotation, just one year after he was the team’s No. 2 starter… Unable to land Cliff Lee, the Yankees top free agent rotation additions were Freddy Garcia and Bartolo Colon, both at the end of their careers, not at the beginning… Despite the positives, Nova has only seven career starts in the big leagues and last year struggled to work deep into games.

Unknown — Sabathia had offseason surgery on his knee, fixing an injury that impacted him late last season… Several young starters from the minor league system could make a run at a rotation spot this spring, and could be counted on to fill holes during the regular season… Colon has not pitched in the big leagues since 2009 but impressed the Yankees in winter ball… Hughes is still working to refine a changeup that could be key to building consistency… Are the Yankees top minor league starters ready for the next step?

Lineup

Good — The Yankees are returning almost everyone from a lineup that scored the most runs in baseball last year. They could have scored 100 fewer runs and still been in the top third… Robinson Cano has emerged as a legitimate MVP candidate, one of the best all-around hitters in baseball… Nick Swisher made legitimate strides last season to improve his batting average and increase his production. Brett Gardner also took a significant step forward… At the designated hitter position, the Yankees have replaced Nick Johnson with Jorge Posada.

Bad – Derek Jeter is coming off the worse season of his career, and at 36 years old, there’s reason to wonder if that drop in production is a sign of things to come… Curtis Granderson made strides in the second half, but his overall numbers were not what was expected in his first season with the Yankees… Russell Martin hit .249/.350/.330 the last two seasons.

Unknown – Alex Rodriguez was healthy this winter. That might be enough to put him back among the super elite hitters in baseball… Similar bounce-back questions surround Jeter, Granderson, Posada, Martin and Mark Teixeira. The Yankees will especially count on Teixiera to return to his pre-2010 form… Top prospect Jesus Montero could hit his way into the big league picture sooner rather than later… Is Gardner’s wrist 100 percent healthy?

Bullpen

Good – The Yankees top offseason addition was Rafael Soriano, who led the American League in saves last year and will slide into a setup role… The Yankees also added Pedro Feliciano this winter, giving them a consistent, veteran left-handed specialist… Mariano Rivera remains one of the best closers in baseball… Joba Chamberlain, Dave Robertson and Boone Logan were terrific down the stretch last season.

Bad – The Yankees have plenty of dominant one-inning relievers, but carrying all of them will mean room for only one long reliever. It could be difficult to fill the void if back-to-back starters make early exits… Rivera is 41 years old. Feliciano is 34 and has carried a heavy load the past three seasons… The Yankees top minor league relief depth — the guys who previous bounced back and forth from Triple-A — is gone, most notably Jonathan Albaladejo and Mark Melancon.

Unknown – Chamberlain and Robertson seem on the verge of being reliable setup men, but last year the Yankees felt compelled to trade for Kerry Wood, and this year they felt compelled to sign Soriano. It’s uncertain if/when they’ll be trusted to take the next step… Logan was a revelation last season, but he doesn’t have a Major League track record… The best long relief candidate might be needed in the rotation… Borderline bullpen candidates Romulo Sanchez, Daniel Turpen and Robert Fish are either out of options or Rule 5 picks who can’t be sent to the minor leagues.

Bench

Good — Despite concerns about his ability to hit at the Major League level, Francisco Cervelli is a career .274/.343/.340 hitter in New York, more than acceptable for a backup catcher… Fourth outfielder Andruw Jones slugged .486 last season, giving the Yankees a replacement for Marcus Thames, but with a better glove… At the very least, the Yankees know Ramiro Pena is a reliable defensive option in the infield.

Bad – Cervelli’s overall numbers are good, but he’s been prone to extended periods without offensive production… Jones is no longer an elite defensive player, and he hit .212 the past four seasons… Pena hit .227/.258/.247 last season… Aside from Jones, the Yankees have no reliable, proven offensive options for the bench.

Unknown – The Yankees could replace Pena with Eduardo Nunez, but Nunez has just 50 at-bats of Major League experience… Veterans Eric Chavez and Ronnie Belliard were signed to minor league contracts and will try to prove themselves this spring… The Yankees bench could play a significant role if the Yankees feel the need to give Rodriguez and Jeter regular days off… How long will the Yankees wait before giving Jesus Montero or Austin Romine a spot on the roster?

Associated Press photos of Sabathia, Rodriguez, Chamberlain and Cervelli

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495 Responses to “The good, the bad and the unknown”

  1. Betsy February 13th, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    AJ isn’t good enough or consistent enough to be a #2. At his best still includes bouts of awfulness, so at best he’s a #3

  2. Betsy February 13th, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    Is the change up some kind of super pitch?

  3. Betsy February 13th, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    I would say Nova is an unknown quantity………..

  4. Triple Short of a Cycle February 13th, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    GreenBeret7,

    I am just saying they have a decent bench to fill in for guys if they get injured. Lowrie was pretty amazing during the last month of the season. His big issue is staying healthy. Francona wants to play him a bunch this year. I see him getting around 400 at bats this season if healthy

  5. LGY February 13th, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    Burnett was one of the better number 2 in the AL in 2009

  6. Betsy February 13th, 2011 at 12:10 pm

    LGY, he was ok in 2009 – he definitely did not pitch like a #2 starter.

  7. SJ44 February 13th, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    AJ was more than good enough to be a solid #2 starter in 2008 and 2009.

    If folks are going to fixate on last year, they can’t ignore the previous two seasons.

    If the guy is healthy, and he appears to be, there is no reason he can’t bounce back to 2008-2009 form.

    Especially since it appears he wants that very much.

    Excellent post Chad. Summed up everything perfectly.

  8. Betsy February 13th, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    Well, I guess it’s all subjective. AJ was fine in 2009, but IMO he definitely did not pitch like a #2….

  9. Betsy February 13th, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    He was awful for at least 2 months in 2009…….So, overall he was ok, but I certainly wouldn’t want that performance from my #2.

  10. GreenBeret7 February 13th, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    So, now, the big issue in YankeeLand is RSVP-Gate? Expecting people to fly from Florida to NY and back in 24 hours, at the same time as ST opens is ridiculous. Perhaps it was somewhat shortsighted to Kay to not have the wedding a week or 2 earlier. Maybe Jeter actually called Kay and told him he couldn’t make the trip because his Visa Card was maxed out.

  11. Cashmoney February 13th, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    me think AJ and Beckett is a push.

  12. SJ44 February 13th, 2011 at 12:15 pm

    Sure he did. Go back and look at his game logs from 2009. He pitched every bit as good as most AL #2 starters in 2009.

    He also won the biggest game of the 2009 season…..Game 2 of the WS.

    You can’t ignore the guys success and only focus on his failures.

    Well, you can but it isn’t an accurate appraisal of his abilities.

    Fact is, if AJ Burnett can regain his form, and the team stays healthy, it’s probably a 95 or more win team A’s it stands right now.

  13. LGY February 13th, 2011 at 12:19 pm

    2009 ERA+ for #2 starters

    Burnett: 114

    Beckett: 122
    Niemann: 110
    Romero: 103
    Guthrie: 90

    Baker: 100
    Jackson: 126
    Buerhle: 122
    Laffey: 96
    Bannister: 94

    Lackey: 115
    Feldman: 114
    Washburn: 163 (Only 130 innings though)
    Anderson: 109

  14. joeman February 13th, 2011 at 12:19 pm

    # joeman February 13th, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    # blake February 13th, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    Joeman,

    As LGY pointed out Becketts injuries are of the chronic nature and figure to keep.cropping up. I don’t know who will have a better season in 2011 and that want what we were talking about….we we’re taking about who you’d rather have. I think they’ll have comparable seasons in 2011 because they are comparable pitchers…..
    ————————————————————–
    well if they are even as you say I’m taking the player that is 4 years younger…who cares about the contract

  15. jacksquat February 13th, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    Interesting Fact:

    Quality Starts 2010:

    Cliff Lee: 18

    Freddy Garcia: 18

    :)

  16. blake February 13th, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    In a 3 game series against the Red Sox where the pitching matchups are : Sabathia/Lester, Hughes/Buchholtz, Burnett/Beckett…….I see that as pretty even.

  17. joeman February 13th, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    # Cashmoney February 13th, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    me think AJ and Beckett is a push.
    ————————————————–
    even a push being 4 years younger

  18. pat February 13th, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    What day do position players have to report?

  19. blake February 13th, 2011 at 12:22 pm

    Joeman,

    That’s fine ill take the guy without chronic back issues that is on contract a year less……

  20. joeman February 13th, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    Blake…we agree to disagree…..nice job though

  21. Tom in N.J. February 13th, 2011 at 12:24 pm

    What is the average ERA by rotation spot?

  22. William Buckner February 13th, 2011 at 12:24 pm

    “Fact is, if AJ Burnett can regain his form, and the team stays healthy, it’s probably a 95 or more win team A’s it stands right now.”

    IDK if this is true, but I remember hearing AJ Burnett went through an extremely bad divorce during last season. Having never been divorced, can’t really appreciate, but it wouldn’t shock me if that effected his play.

    If that is behind him now, and it’s true, then there is reason to believe he will return to prior years numbers.

  23. joeman February 13th, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    RS…pitching coach has stated that Beckett’s back problems were more of a mind thing……well they are both head cases also

  24. tyanksfan36 February 13th, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    George Steinbrenner would be proud of the school that was named for him.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/5.....442298630/

  25. Betsy February 13th, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    SJ, AJ did win the biggest game of the year- I said it then and I said it last year and I still agree with it. In fact, he really didn’t have phenomenal stuff in 2009, but early in the season he did fight through games, so I think cricicism that he can’t do it at all is completely unfair. Now that I think about it, his August was brutal and September was “ok”. I still think AJ is better as a #3 type, but he’s a hard worker and an excellent teammate and I know he was very upset with his performance last year. I hope he bounces back.

  26. blake February 13th, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    Joeman,

    Yea that’s fine….Beckett just isn’t my favorite guy but you make a valid arguement.

  27. Doreen February 13th, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    Nice summary Chad.

    pat

    Position players report Saturday the 19th, according to the Star Ledger, with the first full workout on the 20th.

  28. GreenBeret7 February 13th, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    Hughes comments to Brian Hoch

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....um=twitter

  29. joeman February 13th, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    # blake February 13th, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    Joeman,

    Yea that’s fine….Beckett just isn’t my favorite guy but you make a valid arguement.
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    I can’t stand the guy

  30. LGY February 13th, 2011 at 12:28 pm

    Tom,

    I read an article that figured that out a little while back. Trying to find it now.

  31. Cashmoney February 13th, 2011 at 12:28 pm

    Joeman I think the adv lies in Lackey and Maz vs our 4th and 5 th starters. I think NY has a better BP with better closer and depth.

    The offense is tricky, rationality and track records tells me that NY would most likely outproduce RS in raw numbers. But I like the core of Agon, Youk, Ped and Crawford quite a bit. It’s a good blend of power, avg and patience.

  32. LGY February 13th, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    Tom,

    This:

    http://www.hardballtimes.com/m.....rotations/

  33. Tom in N.J. February 13th, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    Thanks, LGY.

    I found this:

    What Should You Expect From Each Rotation Spot?

    http://www.piratesprospects.co.....z1DrT9z72S

  34. LGY February 13th, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    And this:

    http://www.royalsreview.com/20.....2-3-4-5-st

  35. pat February 13th, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    Thanks Doreen.

  36. LGY February 13th, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    “RS…pitching coach has stated that Beckett’s back problems were more of a mind thing……well they are both head cases also”

    —————-

    Farrell said Beckett’s problems last year were more mental than physical. He didn’t say his back problem was a mental issue. I am not even sure how you could have mental back spasms.

  37. joeman February 13th, 2011 at 12:48 pm

    what he said

    Blame a strained back that cost him two months of the season and made him a lost cause even after he returned. Ex-pitching coach John Farrell believes his problems were more mental than physical

  38. GreenBeret7 February 13th, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    I keep reading how Hughes wasn’t a good #2 pitcher last year. Guess what? He wasn’t the #2 or #3 pitcher in the rotation. He wasn’t even supposed to be the #4 pitcher. He pushed his way there. You can’t be too upset that he didn’t pitch like a #2 when that wasn’t his role. For the first two and a half months, he shocked everyone by pitching like a #1.

  39. randy l. February 13th, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    This is one of those good news/bad news things, so let’s start with the good news: Jack Morris, David Cone and Dave Stewart are just three All-Stars who endured seasons as bad as Josh Beckett’s woeful 2010. So the erstwhile Red Sox ace at least shares solid company.

    Better prepare yourself for the bad news, though, because it’s a doozy:

    Virtually every pitcher to struggle like Beckett did last season not only was never the same, but almost to a man failed to produce a single, solitary above-average season thereafter.

    “So what are we talking about? Thanks to the magic of baseball-reference.com, it was easy to sort for pitchers in their 30s who posted ERAs above 5.75 while pitching at least 125 innings.

    The search returned 69 such seasons by 66 different pitchers. Jaime Navarro appeared on the list three straight times (which helps explain why the White Sox were so mediocre in the late 1990s), while Tim Belcher made it twice.

    Of those 66 pitchers, only three managed to regain something even remotely approximating their form, at least as starters.” john tomase

    http://bostonherald.com/sports....._overcome/

    beckett is a huge question mark for the red sox. it wasn’t just last year. two out of the past 5 years he’s had an era over 5.00.

    i expect him to be lights out at times and totally melting down at others. he’s a head case which helps him sometimes because he too ignorant to know he’s not good anymore. he’ll have his moments, but he’s not a smart pitcher who will adapt to his stuff being reduced each year.

    i’d much rather have burnett simply because his contract is up sooner.

    burnett is not a rocket scientist either. if rothschild is really focusing on his attitude rather than his mechanics this may indeed help him. burnett like beckett is who he is at this point. maybe just attacking the hitter is more important to aj rather than worry where his release point is.

  40. brownies February 13th, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    Unless a trade is made for a pitcher better than our 3-5 guys I think yanks will win 85-90 games and miss playoffs. I hope I am wong

  41. 108 stitches February 13th, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    Will any LoHud bloggers be at GMS Field on Tuesday when the pitchers & catchers emerge on the field for their 1st full workouts of 2011 ?

    This guy will be there at 10:15 AM when they begin to take the field. The best area is right above the Yankee bullpen in RF. The guy with a blue shirt with YANKEES will be 108.

  42. Betsy February 13th, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    Randy, the first game at Fenway last year sticks in my mind. Beckett looked great early and then just self-destructed on the mound, lol

  43. randy l. February 13th, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    What is the average ERA by rotation spot?

    tom in nj-

    off the top of my head,if the yankees get a 5th starter who’s around a 5.00 era they’ll be doing well.

    i think the key to the 5th starter is for him to throw out this 5.00 era and do it for 6 innings more often than not.

    innings is the key back there simply because it wears down a bullpen over time if the 5 guy is only going 4-5 innings every start.

  44. tyanksfan36 February 13th, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    108 Stitches

    Ill be there! I will be the girl in the black USF sweatshirt.

  45. Fran the original February 13th, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    108 stitches,

    Have fun. Hope you take pictures for us.

  46. Fran the original February 13th, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    tyanks, and you too :)

  47. kd February 13th, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    great post chad. there’s no perfect team in bseball, but you gotta think that the yankees are in the top three on paper in the very least.

    people always will compare the yankees to the red sox for obvious reasons. up and down the lineup the red sox have questions, as do the yankees. but 1/2 of the red sox infield had serious injuries last year, will the keebler elf and youk be able to ounce back? also, the red sox are asking a 32 year old to change positions, to a harder one to play. they have not significantly upgraded their offense.

    the pitching is a concern for the yankees, but i would argue that the red sox have bigger concerns. for one reason: the yankees have arms and position player that can contribute by mid season in pinstripes or in trades, while the red sox do not.

    flexibility. it’s the best thing to have going into a season. sit back and enjoy, 2011 is going to be awesome.

  48. Nick in SF February 13th, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    ” I think Tony Romo doesn’t have what it takes to win a championship and falls apart when the pressure is on. I thought Wade Phillips was a horrible coach. Does that make me a horrible Cowboy fan?”

    No, but it made me a happy Giants fan.

  49. tyanksfan36 February 13th, 2011 at 1:02 pm

    Fran

    Im sure I will have fun and take lots of pictures, unfortunately I will have to leave and head off to class earlier than I want. Ill have to drag myself away.

  50. Tom in N.J. February 13th, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    Randy, from what I’ve read the average ERA by rotation spot in the A.L. last year was:

    #1: 3.24

    #2. 3.71

    #3: 4.28

    #4: 4.76

    #5. 5.68

  51. GreenBeret7 February 13th, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    Until the Yankees can get the back of the rotation settled, I’d assume that Girardi will try getting 3 innings out of two relievers on those days. As long as they don’t implode in that first inning of work, between two of them, they can get through an inning. We’re talking about 5 pitches more fpr one and 8-10 for the other. Whether the 7th man/long man is Mitre/Sisco’Chamberlain, they can pitch at least two innings. They all were starters.

  52. LGY February 13th, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    Just to add to Tom’s post though, pitching was better (or hitting was worse depending on how you look at it) across in the board in 2010 than it has been for a while.

    This article goes back to 96 showing how much better the pitching numbers were last year.

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs.....e-pitcher/

    So, it will be interesting to see if this continues or the pitching takes a step back in 2011.

  53. West Coast Yankee Fan February 13th, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    IMO, on paper the Yankees are without a doubt one of the top three teams in baseball, the other two being the Phillies and Red Sox. I think it’s fair to say they all have question marks, but if they all stay healthy it’s hard not admire the Phillies rotation.

    Like most years, injuries will play a major role in deciding who makes the post-season. That to me is an especially relevant fear factor with aging players; perhaps as much as a drop off in performance.

    I would be remiss being a passionate animal lover and advocate if I didn’t express my disdain for the new Mrs. Kay for wearing fur during her wedding. I wish I had her e-mail address so she could see a video as to how they make fox stoles.

  54. GreenBeret7 February 13th, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    This game is making me nervous. Piazza almost took Pettitte out to right. Pettitte looks a little shakey in his first inning of the WS. Not sure why Torre has him opening the Series. I prefer him in Game 2.

  55. Joe from Long Island February 13th, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    108 and tyanksfan36 – my trip to Tampa this ST has been cancelled (associate taken ill suddenly, so I’ve got to fill in). Consider my jealous.

  56. Fran the original February 13th, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    tyanks,

    At least you’ll get to go for a little while :)

  57. GreenBeret7 February 13th, 2011 at 1:13 pm

    would be remiss being a passionate animal lover and advocate if I didn’t express my disdain for the new Mrs. Kay for wearing fur during her wedding. I wish I had her e-mail address so she could see a video as to how they make fox stoles.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    she should only buy troll skin stoles.

  58. randy l. February 13th, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    ” from what I’ve read the average ERA by rotation spot in the A.L. last year was:”

    #1: 3.24

    #2. 3.71

    #3: 4.28

    #4: 4.76

    #5. 5.68″

    that looks about right. the bottom drops out with the 5th spot. i knew the era was a lot worse than what you’d think.

  59. West Coast Yankee Fan February 13th, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    GreenBeret7 February 13th, 2011 at 1:13 pm

    she should only buy troll skin stoles.

    *************

    Or reactionaries.

  60. Joe from Long Island February 13th, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    WCYF – Why do you feel the need to harrass someone because they disagree with you? Just because you feel your cause is just, doesn’t make it ok to harrass someone else who might disagree.

  61. LGY February 13th, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/.....9928650144

  62. 108 stitches February 13th, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    I’m thinking Freddy Garcia has an edge on the No. 4 spot. He threw a suprising amount of quality starts in 2010 which counts for a lot and keeps the bullpen innings down.
    If he’s still got the bulldog mentality on the mound he’ll be good enough.
    Fortunately, not a lot of need for a No. 5 starter for the 1st month of the season.

  63. West Coast Yankee Fan February 13th, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    Joe. Who did I harass; Mrs. Kay? She married the Yankees announcer and there was a story in the sports section and I am expressing my opinion about something I feel passionate about. Like that is never done here.

  64. GreenBeret7 February 13th, 2011 at 1:22 pm

    Joe in LI,

    did Mrs Joe make you stand in the corner for leaving dirty dishes in the sink, last night?

  65. Jackson February 13th, 2011 at 1:23 pm

    Phil Hughes’ take on Nova:

    The Yankees hope to catch lightning in a bottle with veterans Bartolo Colon or Freddy Garcia and to see the continued development of Ivan Nova, who went 1-2 with a 4.50 ERA in 10 appearances – seven starts – last season.

    “Nova’s got unbelievable stuff,” Hughes said. “It’s just one of those things where it (the rotation) might not look that great right now but you never know. Hopefully a few guys step up and have good years and breakout years and I think Nova’s a real candidate for that.”

  66. GreenBeret7 February 13th, 2011 at 1:25 pm

    Are you that passionate before or after walking into an eatery in your leather shoes, with your leather belt holding your leather pants up and pulling out your leather wallet to pay for your steak or fish dinner?

  67. Doreen February 13th, 2011 at 1:25 pm

    WCYF -

    But then you take it to the limit by saying you wish you could send her a video.

  68. 108 stitches February 13th, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    Joe from Long Island :

    Sorry about the turn of events denying you being at GMS. Will try to pass on tidbits of interest.
    Meantime, a mental picture of warmth after a long day in Manhattan to keep you upbeat.

    http://www.ballparkreviews.com/tampa/legends.htm

  69. Rich in NJ February 13th, 2011 at 1:30 pm

    Carlo February 13th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
    No Rich in NJ, that would be an incorrect guess. I am very optimistic about the season. I believe we are one of the top 4 teams in the AL and I believe we are capable of an October appearance where anything can happen. That said, I don’t sit here pretending the rotation stacks up with other top teams nor do I sit here pretending we can’t trade anyone because we have a farm system dynasty on the horizon. Can we win in 2011, sure, but we were better suited to win in 2010 in my opinion.
    ___

    There is only one team in MLB that has a rotation that is clearly better than the Yankees, and that’s the Phillies.

    Trade all the prospects you want, but when you can’t afford all the top FA talent you want because they will still be paying some aging players big bucks, you may regret it.

  70. Joe from Long Island February 13th, 2011 at 1:30 pm

    WCYF – you wrote that you wished you had her email address, in order to send her a something that is – based on the tone of your comment – designed to disgust. To me, that indicates an intent to harass. The implication in what you wrote was that you would carry this out, if you did have her email address. Not being able to carry out your intent does not diminish that.

    As far as expressing your opinion, this is a baseball blog, that occassionally drifts off into discussions of pop culture, cooking, and the sort. I think we’d all be better off if political opinions were not discussed.

    Look we even tolerate GB. Just not politics, religion, or similar.

  71. GreenBeret7 February 13th, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    How can an animal lover love baseball? A game played with a cowhide cover on it, and leather gloves to catch the old cowhide, not to mention all of the trees killed to smite the old cowhide?

  72. upstate kate February 13th, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    thanks for that link 108…green grass, palm trees, baseball diamonds…I have spring fever :)
    altho right now my dog and I are awaiting our friends of both species so we can go snow shoeing

  73. GreenBeret7 February 13th, 2011 at 1:35 pm

    Look we even tolerate GB. Just not politics, religion, or similar

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    Nor do we advocate the physical abuse of Muppets.

    (Very often, anyway)

  74. tyanksfan36 February 13th, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    Joe

    That’s unfortunate. My coworker quit a few weeks ago so I know how you feel. Ill take lots of pictures so you’ll feel like you are here.

  75. West Coast Yankee Fan February 13th, 2011 at 1:38 pm

    GB7 – since you can’t discern the difference I will lay it out for you. There is a huge moral gap between killing animals like a Fox for their fur to look good and eating domestically raised animals for food. I have no issue with the latter so your shoe analogy is without merit.

    As to the video. I happen to know that many people have sworn off of supporting the fur industry after seeing informative and shocking videos. Many of the animals are skinned alive.

  76. GreenBeret7 February 13th, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    Face facts. You screwed up by shooting your mouth off.

    Maybe you should rush to NY and spray paint Jodi Applegate’s fur. Then you can beat her up. That’ll show her.

    Since when is there a difference between domestic and wild animals? don’t your leather shoes look better than your usual plastic shoes?

  77. GreenBeret7 February 13th, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    By the way…congratulations on screwing up a nice peaceful day on the board…again.

    I’m done.

  78. West Coast Yankee Fan February 13th, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    GB – Face facts I just made you look like a fool with your absurd attempt to compare wearing a fur coat with feeding your family. There is a huge difference between wearing fur for fashion purposes, NOT a necessity. And eating which is.

    As to your comments about paint and violence, I would suspect that you not put words in my mouth about things that I don’t support and have never alluded to supporting.

  79. West Coast Yankee Fan February 13th, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    Nonsense GB. You were the one that responded in a vile manner. I made a baseball post and added a sentence about Kay based on a story I just read. You are always welcome not to respond.

  80. Giuseppe Franco February 13th, 2011 at 1:52 pm

    WCYF is a hypocrite.

    He whines about name calling but participates in such antics himself.

    He also lectures others about inserting politics in this forum but still has the gall to find ways to inject his own politics in various discussions.

    He’s turned into the “new Betsy” because he brings that crap upon himself. We’ve all earned our reputations in this forum – good or bad. He has certainly earned his.

  81. BoJo February 13th, 2011 at 1:52 pm

    In the last thread, there was a lot of debate about negativity, and I think TAR nailed it when he said he doesn’t mind the negativity if context and perspective are utilized in a logical point.

    I agree. I actually like the give and take, and debate. It leads to well-made points that might enlighten our collective knowledge.

    I also am grateful that there is reason for some doom and gloom. How BORING would the season be if Lee and Pettitte returned, and if the wishes of some were fulfilled and we had Mauer, Pujols, Crawford, Werth, and whomever else on this team? I’m grateful that there are questions to entertain us, things that give GM-whannabes things to think about.

    The off-season would be very bleak if everything were nailed down and there weren’t any questions…and the season would be very boring if we went 173-0.

  82. 108 stitches February 13th, 2011 at 1:52 pm

    upstate kate February 13th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
    thanks for that link 108…green grass, palm trees, baseball diamonds…I have spring fever
    altho right now my dog and I are awaiting our friends of both species so we can go snow shoeing

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Kate :

    My best advice for your fever is to take 2 tablets and be sure the interlocking NY is imprinted on them. :)

  83. joeman February 13th, 2011 at 1:53 pm

    # GreenBeret7 February 13th, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    By the way…congratulations on screwing up a nice peaceful day on the board…again.

    I’m done.
    ———————————————-
    LOL!!!!!

  84. Rich in NJ February 13th, 2011 at 1:54 pm

    ” I wish I had her e-mail address so she could see a video as to how they make fox stoles.”

    I wish you did too because it would probably earn you a harassment charge.

  85. SJ44 February 13th, 2011 at 1:54 pm

    Take your animal rights activism to an animal rights blog.

    You don’t need to send anybody you don’t know videos.

    Nobody hear cares. They are more interested in discussing baseball.

  86. Jackson February 13th, 2011 at 1:55 pm

    In 15 ab’s, Agon has a .200 avg with 8 so’s versus Feliciano.

  87. NYY626 - Andy in 2011 February 13th, 2011 at 1:57 pm

    someone on the last thread said Jeter wasnt at murcer’s funeral. Yes he was, I remember the pictures of Jeter and Andy.

    http://www.ultimateyankees.com/07pins.600.jpg

    From wikipedia “The memorial service for Bobby was held in Edmond, OK on August 6, at the Memorial Road Church of Christ. Among the some 2,000 attending the memorial were Reggie Jackson, Derek Jeter, Andy Pettitte and Joe Girardi. Also in attendance Diana Munson, widow of Yankee captain Thurman Munson.

  88. Nat February 13th, 2011 at 1:57 pm

    Oh please, he made one comment about fur that hardly requires all this. Next time people can ignore it like 99% of the board did. I enjoy many posters here and I don’t take sides, but the ones trying to regulate are just as guilty as the trolls when it comes to the silliness on this board.

  89. Giuseppe Franco February 13th, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    One comment involving both politics (a big no-no on any non-political blog) and harassment of another individual – the latter being a rather sensitive issue for some in this forum since they’ve experienced their names and contact info displayed here.

  90. BoJo February 13th, 2011 at 2:10 pm

    http://www.facebook.com/album......38;theater

    Is it just me, or does Micheal Kay’s forehead remind anyone else of the Hulk’s arch for The Leader?

  91. 108 stitches February 13th, 2011 at 2:10 pm

    Nothing against Marcus Thames but a glove on his left hand is not his greatest strength.
    With Andruw Jones, he’ll get a ball hit anywhere near him and be able to cover all 3 OF positions when needed.
    His bat will be at least the equal of what Thames was in 2010.

  92. tyanksfan36 February 13th, 2011 at 2:10 pm

    Kate

    I’d rather have spring fever than bieber fever haha. Baseball will be here soon. I can’t wait.

  93. joeman February 13th, 2011 at 2:16 pm

    I remember the days back in the 70′s I would be packing for ST

  94. Crawdaddy February 13th, 2011 at 2:16 pm

    You guys would be better off ignoring West Coast Red Sox Fan instead of engaging him in conversation.

  95. Joe from Long Island February 13th, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    108, and tyanksfan36 – thanks for the thoughts. I’m sure that, over the next 6 weeks, I’ll daydream now and then of palm trees, beer, hot dogs, and baseball….. At least others from here will get to enjoy. Post some pix.

  96. BoJo February 13th, 2011 at 2:25 pm

    Michael Kay’s evil twin?

    http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-c.....eader2.jpg

  97. Ys Guy February 13th, 2011 at 2:28 pm

    i though michael kay WAS the evil twin…

  98. BoJo February 13th, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    Good point.

  99. Crawdaddy February 13th, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    Whatever he is, he’s married to a really hot wife.

  100. m February 13th, 2011 at 2:31 pm

    He is a 2 headed monster. He just stuffed one inside the other.

    Is it a really slow news cycle or is Kay truly a celebrity?

  101. BoJo February 13th, 2011 at 2:31 pm

    Confused by something…

    West Coast Yankee Fan February 13th, 2011 at 1:38 pm

    GB7 – since you can’t discern the difference I will lay it out for you. There is a huge moral gap between killing animals like a Fox for their fur to look good and eating domestically raised animals for food. I have no issue with the latter so your shoe analogy is without merit.
    ______________________
    Does the last sentence mean you eat your leather shoes? I truly don’t follow the leap in argument.

  102. Ys Guy February 13th, 2011 at 2:36 pm

    i feel bad about all the baby canvases that were killed to make my chuck t high-tops…

  103. Rich in NJ February 13th, 2011 at 2:36 pm

    Kay’s a minor celebrity in general, but in the Yankee universe, he’s a little more than that. Plus, it’s just kind of amazing that a good looking woman would marry him, even though he makes significant money. That makes it like a car wreck in that it’s tough to look away.

  104. BoJo February 13th, 2011 at 2:39 pm

    Ys Guy February 13th, 2011 at 2:36 pm

    i feel bad about all the baby canvases that were killed to make my chuck t high-tops…
    __________________
    You BAST*RD!!

  105. m February 13th, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    Speaking of borderline celebrities, which one of these guys don’t belong in this power shot?

    http://images.sneakernews.com/.....15;399.jpg

    Caption contest is on. :)

  106. BoJo February 13th, 2011 at 2:44 pm

    “Thank God for Photoshop!!! Now I can look like I’m cool and hang with celebs!”

  107. Rich in NJ February 13th, 2011 at 2:44 pm

    Chris Rock makes more than most if not all of those guys. He should be sitting in the front row too.

  108. Doreen February 13th, 2011 at 2:45 pm

    m -

    Alex looks like he thought it was a hockey game – scarf & hat. :)

    rich in NJ – I didn’t even see Chris Rock until you pointed him out!

  109. BoJo February 13th, 2011 at 2:45 pm

    ARod: “Carmen, next time I take you to a Knicks game, please try and wear SOME make-up!”

  110. GreenBeret7 February 13th, 2011 at 2:46 pm

    Just something to read…another player projection. How many heads will explode after reading this?

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/fantasy......jsp#pos_c

  111. 108 stitches February 13th, 2011 at 2:47 pm

    Weather report for the pitchers & catchers calls for progressively warmer temperatures as the week moves along. Mid to high 70′s a.k.a. Chamber of Commerce weather.
    Physicals tomorrow. Early arrival position players will continue to work out at the minor league complex.

  112. m February 13th, 2011 at 2:48 pm

    Nobody sees it? Hint: he probably wishes he had a bag of peanuts.

  113. Betsy February 13th, 2011 at 2:48 pm

    Blow off, GF.

  114. Doreen February 13th, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    Is the guy in the orange shirt Melky Cabrera???

  115. Fran the original February 13th, 2011 at 2:52 pm

    That is Melky sitting next to Chris Rock.

  116. BoJo February 13th, 2011 at 2:53 pm

    m February 13th, 2011 at 2:48 pm

    Nobody sees it? Hint: he probably wishes he had a bag of peanuts.
    ++++++++++
    ???

  117. Rich in NJ February 13th, 2011 at 2:54 pm

    Melky is more into porn stars than peanuts from what I have read.

  118. BoJo February 13th, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    Rich in NJ February 13th, 2011 at 2:54 pm

    Melky is more into porn stars than peanuts from what I have read.
    ++++++++++++++++++++
    Are you referring to his sex videos with Lucy and Linus?

  119. Doreen February 13th, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    Rich -

    I thought the two went together.

  120. 108 stitches February 13th, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    GreenBeret7 February 13th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
    Just something to read…another player projection. How many heads will explode after reading this?

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/fantasy……jsp#pos_c

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Saltalamacchia at No. 13 ? Gammons is getting an early start on overhyping HIS Red Socks. What’s next ? Dustmite Pedroia over Cano ?

  121. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 13th, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    “It says a lot that the Yankees — given their potent lineup and deep bullpen — are seen as such a question mark this season. It’s all because of their rotation, because starters are important enough to make the Phillies a favorite and the Yankees an unknown.

    Well Las Vegas has them in second place by a fraction to win the World Series – ahead of the Phillies.

    :)

    San Fran was seen as a question mark last year.

    You know that all I can do at this point is stretch and Y-A-W-N!

    If they weren’t really busy today I’d call the Bronx FD to drive down to Tampa and put out the fire.

    I guess my question is this: how many times are we going to beat this horse to death? I think we’ve exhausted every language known to humankind on the topic of “the uncertainty of the Yankee rotation”.

    I have a good idea! Why don’t we get into a long exhasutive discussion about something new, like the Yankees rotation?!

    :roll:

    Good God. Can we give that one a rest and just kind of sit back and watch for a while? Or will something new magically be added to the off season-long saga about the uncertainty of the Yankees rotation?

    Maybe someone can start a discussion about the upside of Nova, Mitre, Garcia, and Colon. And don’t make yourselves look totally silly by saying there is none!

  122. Pat M. February 13th, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    Mr. Franco…Happy Spring Training, good to have you back……

  123. randy l. February 13th, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    “Just something to read…another player projection. How many heads will explode after reading this?”

    i think mauer is overrated.

  124. m February 13th, 2011 at 2:59 pm

    I thought he was eating peanuts in bed with a porn star? Disclaimer: I haven’t seen the video.

    I was looking for a picture of CC at the Friday Knicks game, and this old picture popped up. I thought was great that Melky had such a great seat. Only in America. Haha.

  125. Rich in NJ February 13th, 2011 at 3:00 pm

    Oh…I wasn’t aware of the peanut/porn connection.

  126. GreenBeret7 February 13th, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    randy l. February 13th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
    “Just something to read…another player projection. How many heads will explode after reading this?”

    i think mauer is overrated.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Yes, but, you’ve gotta love the way those Twins pitchers have developed.

    (LMAO. Sorry, Randy. It was just laying there asking for it.)

  127. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 13th, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    And not to give any undue credit to WCYF but I would be lying to say it didn’t bother me a little to read that Kay’s wife was wearing a fox whatever. But I didn’t think it made much sense mentioning it here – despite the fact that I just did! And it didn’t cross my mind to send her a video or an email.

    :)

  128. Doreen February 13th, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    Rich in NJ -

    I am embarrassed to admit that I remember such trivia…

  129. m February 13th, 2011 at 3:05 pm

    Keep up, Rich!

    In Jason Starks spring training preview, he had a surprise team. I thought he was nuts.

    He said the Yankees rotation was the #1 thing to watch. Boston was the most improved. The biggest spender. And the Yankees were the least improved. He also said the Sox & Gonzalez already have an agreement, or at least he intimated that.

  130. BoJo February 13th, 2011 at 3:05 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue February 13th, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    And not to give any undue credit to WCYF but I would be lying to say it didn’t bother me a little to read that Kay’s wife was wearing a fox whatever. But I didn’t think it made much sense mentioning it here – despite the fact that I just did! And it didn’t cross my mind to send her a video or an email.
    +++++++++++++++++++++
    I personally don’t mind if she was wearing fox skin–preferably Hannity or Beck.

    JK

  131. Doreen February 13th, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    trisha -

    If he had left his post at he was disenchanted that she wore a fox fur, I think most people would have passed it by (I know would have) without a response. It was the other part that got my attention, anyway.

    How have you been by the way? We’re not often here at the same time. Which is kinda good for me; means I’ve cut down on my active blog time anyway. :)

  132. randy l. February 13th, 2011 at 3:09 pm

    “Maybe someone can start a discussion about the upside of Nova, Mitre, Garcia, and Colon. And don’t make yourselves look totally silly by saying there is none!”

    well, nova will be soon throwing live bp . maybe some one will hit and a home run into the bullpen where mitre and garcia will be warming up. they’ll duck and the ball will hit colon in the ass while he’s bending over to pick up a donut a fan dropped over the railing.

    oh , did you say upside? i thought you said backside. my bad.

  133. GreenBeret7 February 13th, 2011 at 3:12 pm

    well, nova will be soon throwing live bp . maybe some one will hit and a home run into the bullpen where mitre and garcia will be warming up. they’ll duck and the ball will hit colon in the ass while he’s bending over to pick up a donut a fan dropped over the railing.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Isn’t part of the bullpen catcher’s job to bend over and pick up donuts for the team stars? All they do is play catch, as far as I can see.

  134. DaSaint007 February 13th, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    Congrats to Kay and his new wife! I don’t particularly like his broadcasts, but I wish them well.

    Can’t wait for ST!

  135. Erica in NY February 13th, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    Hi everyone!

    Sorry, if this was posted already (I can’t go back and reread all of the comments I missed since Friday night) but….. Here is some stuff on Nick Swisher’s “Better With You” appearance

    http://www.tvline.com/2011/02/.....you-video/

  136. randy l. February 13th, 2011 at 3:15 pm

    “Yes, but, you’ve gotta love the way those Twins pitchers have developed.”
    gb7

    lucky for you i’m on the way out to play some golf.

    but seriously, i wouldn’t pay 25 million a year for mauer. he’s a part time player who only has 30 career ops points on posada and he hasn’t even played his old years yet.

    overrated.posada didn’t go on the disabled list until he after he hit 35. mauer is lucky to make it to memorial day without hurting his pinkie. let’s see his stats if he played hurt like posada did.

  137. Pat M. February 13th, 2011 at 3:16 pm

    Tin Cup…..Who had the best stuff you ever caught or who would have been the toughest to hit against ???/

  138. Fran the original February 13th, 2011 at 3:16 pm

    Erica,

    Erin beat you to it. Hope you had a good time in AC.

  139. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 13th, 2011 at 3:17 pm

    Doreen, really well, thanks for asking! I’ve actually been busier than I want to be with the pro bono stuff I’ve been doing. The attorney who runs the clinic has been so impressed with me that during our last clinic he saw fit to let me run the clinic AND take all the clients.

    :(

    What that really means is that he dumped them all on me. So I’ve been running to court plus doing a lot of non-court stuff. I’m just going to have to find a way to nicely ask him to share the load. I also have a few cases that I’m working on, on the side.

    At least I’m putting my education to good use – I guess.

    :)

  140. Erica in NY February 13th, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    Fran the original February 13th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
    Erica,

    Erin beat you to it. Hope you had a good time in AC.

    ********

    That Erin :evil:

    I did!!! I had an awesome time. It was exactly what I needed. I just wish I could have stayed longer :-(

  141. Giuseppe Franco February 13th, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    Thanks, Pat. Good to see you still around. Hope all is well in your neck of the woods.

  142. G. Love February 13th, 2011 at 3:19 pm

    Just saw Buster Olney said he wouldn’t be surprised to see Adrian Gonzalez hit 48 HR’s and drive in 145 RBI’s this season.

    The hype is really reaching a fever pitch.

    If all these prognosticators are right the Red Sox should win roughly 130 games this season the way they are being talked about.

    I saw GB’s link to the catcher rankings and they ranked Saltalacchia the 12th best catcher. He hasn’t played a full season in the majors at the position yet.

    I don’t think I’ve ever seen this level of hyperbole in the press in the pre-season over a team before in a very long time.

    They’re getting more love than the Phillies who put together a lethal rotation.

    I like them all sleeping on the Yankees because they are all going to be spitting venom once the season starts and the Red Sox stop playing games on fantasy fairy land paper and on an actual field against opponents who are trying to win.

    This might be the most hyped Red Sox team in history.

  143. Vineyard Yankee February 13th, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    BoJo February 13th, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    Are you referring to his sex videos with Lucy and Linus?

    ===============

    Could you be anymore transparent George.

  144. randy l. February 13th, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    “Isn’t part of the bullpen catcher’s job to bend over and pick up donuts for the team stars? All they do is play catch, as far as I can see.”

    gb7-

    as one veteran pitcher once told me when i stopped him while warming up to tell him he was throwing across his body, ” you know what your job is? it’s to make sure i don’t have to walk a long ways to get the ball”.

  145. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 13th, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    You also have to remember that Buster is a Sux fan. I don’t know if that plays into his prognostication but it just might.

  146. GreenBeret7 February 13th, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    randy l. February 13th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
    “Yes, but, you’ve gotta love the way those Twins pitchers have developed.”
    gb7

    lucky for you i’m on the way out to play some golf.

    but seriously, i wouldn’t pay 25 million a year for mauer. he’s a part time player who only has 30 career ops points on posada and he hasn’t even played his old years yet.

    overrated.posada didn’t go on the disabled list until he after he hit 35. mauer is lucky to make it to memorial day without hurting his pinkie. let’s see his stats if he played hurt like posada did.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Randy, it’s a tough call on Mauer’s value right now, but, if they move him from behind the plate, like I think they will in a year or two if Morneau can’t play, then it gets really dicey.

  147. GreenBeret7 February 13th, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    randy l. February 13th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
    “Isn’t part of the bullpen catcher’s job to bend over and pick up donuts for the team stars? All they do is play catch, as far as I can see.”

    gb7-

    as one veteran pitcher once told me when i stopped him while warming up to tell him he was throwing across his body, ” you know what your job is? it’s to make sure i don’t have to walk a long ways to get the ball”.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    You caught jim Palmer? Sounds like him.

    LMAO. Funny story.

  148. Doreen February 13th, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    trisha -

    It sounds good overall, though. Better to be busy than not busy and somehow I don’t think you’ll have any difficulty letting him know he needs to share the load. :)

    Are you getting to do any of the animal rights work you were talking about a while back?

    Erica -

    Welcome home. Sounds like it was good break for you even if it was too short. You will go back after busy season, right?

  149. Giuseppe Franco February 13th, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    Whatever, Betsy.

    The term “the new Betsy” was a term coined by either you or WCYF himself the other day – referring to someone who believes he/she is unfairly picked on as a result of some of his/her comments.

    I’d say that description fits perfectly.

  150. exiledintampa February 13th, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    I read that the a-gon thing was a done deal at around $154 mill. but they were holding off the signing to avoid the penalty for being that much more over the payroll tax. At least till june.

  151. G. Love February 13th, 2011 at 3:25 pm

    Trisha,

    What’s comical is that Red Sox fans say Buster is a Yankees fan!

  152. GreenBeret7 February 13th, 2011 at 3:26 pm

    GLove, not sure if you looked at just the catchers, or the complete thing. They had Pedroia at 20 homers and nearly 90 RBI. some odd stuff in there.

  153. Doreen February 13th, 2011 at 3:26 pm

    randy l -

    Sounds like being a bullpen catcher must be a labor of love. From the stories you share, it sure can’t be something one does for money or prestige. :)

  154. m February 13th, 2011 at 3:26 pm

    Had to look it up, he said the next bay area WS champ might be the A’s. A bit more of a qualified statement than I remembered, but still. The A’s!

  155. Betsy February 13th, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    Whatever, GF – that’s my reaction to all of your posts.

  156. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 13th, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    Doreen, what I found out is that all of that stuff has to go through the individual municipalities. I don’t know if I had mentioned that. I’m trying to get my town to pass an ordinance that says that when it comes to animal abuse cases, the town can accept volunteer lawyers. I’ll have to see what happens with that. I guess it could get complicated when it comes to the issue of indemnification.

  157. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 13th, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    G. Love, well he did cover the Yanks as the NY Times beat reporter, so maybe that’s where they got it from. He grew up in Vermont. I’d say that’s about as Suxy as you can get, other than to be from beantown itself!

    :)

  158. GreenBeret7 February 13th, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    If you want a fairly close prediction, take about 10 of the most realiable writers/sites, add them up and average the numbers. It just doesn’t account for injuries. They did have Montero at a .267 average, 10 homers and 30 RBI with a .488-.390 SLG in limited play, though.i

  159. Tom in N.J. February 13th, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    Adrian Gonzalez might not be ready to play right away:

    1B, Red Sox — Everyone wants him to be ready by Opening Day, but it seems silly to rush him if he isn’t ready. If that’s the case, the Sox would explore the free agent market for a first baseman. Currently, Nick Johnson, Troy Glaus, Russell Branyan, and Mike Sweeney are on that list. The Sox could also play Lars Anderson for a week or two

    http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....ft/?page=4

  160. randy l. February 13th, 2011 at 3:31 pm

    “Tin Cup…..Who had the best stuff you ever caught or who would have been the toughest to hit against ???/”

    pat m-
    jack armstrong had the best stuff at the time i caught him. it was a few months before he started for the national league in the ’90 all star game.

    mike cuellar would have eaten me up because i was a lefty hitter who liked the ball away. cuellar would have thrown that screwball and just jammed me up.

  161. GreenBeret7 February 13th, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    Doreen February 13th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
    randy l -

    Sounds like being a bullpen catcher must be a labor of love. From the stories you share, it sure can’t be something one does for money or prestige.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    I imagine that Randy was lucky that those teams didn’t charge him for all of the snacks he ate will in the bullpen. He’d still be paying off that debt.

  162. tampayank February 13th, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    So who takes the last shot? Lebron or Wade?

  163. m February 13th, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    I thought he grew up loving the Dodgers?

  164. randy l. February 13th, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    pat m
    i take back armstrong. Joaquin Andujar had better stuff.forgot about him.
    he was the hardest worker of any pitcher i caught too.

  165. GreenBeret7 February 13th, 2011 at 3:34 pm

    488-***.490*** SLG in limited

  166. Erica in NY February 13th, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    Doreen-

    Of course!
    I am thinking of going April 23rd, but its too far away to think about right now

  167. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 13th, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    m – not sure. I may have just made a strong guess that a boy growing up in Vt. would back the Sux. I’ll say that he seems to be pretty chirpy when talking about them.

  168. Giuseppe Franco February 13th, 2011 at 3:40 pm

    # m February 13th, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    I thought he grew up loving the Dodgers?

    ————

    He did. I seem to recall him explaining that his Dodger fandom ceased after meeting Tommy Lasorda.

  169. Joe from Long Island February 13th, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    randy – it’s always nice when we have someone to remind us of our place in life. (Around here, mrs. joe takes on that responsibility. ;) )

    Not a good sign if they’re still worried about Morneau. From what I understand, he still hasn’t been cleared to play. That is a serious injury. It would be a big loss to baseball and fans if he cannot come back, but you can’t fool around with his health.

    I can easily see Mauer being moved to 1B/DH over the next year or so. From a team perspective, those two events – Morneau not being able to play, and Mauer being moved off C – will take a toll on the Twins, but I don’t know what they can do about it.

  170. randy l. February 13th, 2011 at 3:43 pm

    “I imagine that Randy was lucky that those teams didn’t charge him for all of the snacks he ate will in the bullpen. He’d still be paying off that debt.”

    gb7-

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