A few Tuesday night notes and links
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Feb 15, 2011 
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I don’t really have much to add tonight. I was just reading through some stories online and decided to post some links.
• PECOTA predicts A.J. Burnett’s ERA will drop seven-tenths of a run. It naturally predicts another potential Cy Young season for CC Sabathia.
• Of course, there are other Sabathia predictions out there. A source told The Daily News that Sabathia is likely to opt out after this season. We’ll see. My guess is that story will go away pretty quickly, only to resurface in September.
• Astros camp opened today, and general manager Ed Wade said Rule 5 pick Lance Pendleton — taken from the Yankees — is primarily auditioning for a spot in the rotation. The other Yankee lost in the Rule 5, George Kontos, is trying to win a relief job with the Padres. He could be in there with Dustin Moseley.
• Maybe there’s a glimmer of hope for my friends back in St. Louis. Seriously, every single day I get a text message from someone asking if I know what’s going on with Albert Pujols. For the record, I have no clue. I’ll find out when everyone else finds out.
• Yankees camp is about to get interesting. Curtis Granderson just tweeted, looking for suggestions of which teammate he should prank this spring. There are infinite ways for this to be hilarious. It’s hard to come up with a wrong suggestion.
• Speaking of things getting interesting… Remember when Arcade Fire won Album of the Year despite the fact a lot of the general public had (unfortunately) never heard the album? Now Arcade Fire is selling The Suburbs for less than four bucks. That’s how you celebrate a Grammy!
Associated Press photo
I’ll be beyond surprised if Pujols and the Cards don’t get it worked out. Still, wow. It will be interesting to see who blinks first. Pretty crazy stuff. Is Boras his agent?
I think he stays in St Louis but re-signs there as a free agent next winter.
Yea I think he resigns the question is when
Yankees camp is about to get interesting. Curtis Granderson just tweeted, looking for suggestions of which teammate he should prank this spring. There are infinite ways for this to be hilarious. It’s hard to come up with a wrong suggestion
Trisha, I’m with you on Pujols. Can’t see him being on any other team.
I’ll predict that Pujols will be th first signing of Donald Trump’s Mets.
Does anyone remember another situation like that one, a premier player still negotiating with his team on the eve of ST?
Yankees camp is about to get interesting. Curtis Granderson just tweeted, looking for suggestions of which teammate he should prank this spring. There are infinite ways for this to be hilarious. It’s hard to come up with a wrong suggestion
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I suggest that Granderson pick on the guy with the best sense of humor that’s smaller than Granderson.
Chad since you are interested, a friend in the music business provided these sales stats after the Grammy’s. (through 3 am EST that night)
Mumford & Sons (was #1 on I-Tunes)
Sigh No More – 31,189 +156%
Little Lion Man – 42,664 +88%
The Cave – 37,899 +114%
Bernie Williams negotiated with Yankees when he was an impending free agent back when George was the owner. He could have been had for about 42% discount.
I think the Yankees should buy the Mets then sign Pujols and trade him to the Bronx for Kei Igawa…
I hope that Trump gets to buy the Mets. I feel really sorry for that team and for its fans. I bet Trump couldn’t straighten them out.
Fran – I still can’t believe that this is going on with Pujols and the Cards! It’s bizarre!!!
I’m watching DVRd Cash Cabs. I’m in love with Ben Bailey.
They just started a Chicago version with some female from Second City driving the cab. I can’t watch it. It’s too contrived for me, using a female as a cab driver, to begin with! There’s only one Cash Cab and that’s the one in NYC!!!
Rich in NJ, I remember when that was happening and then at zero hour Bernie caved. But wasn’t that in the off season and well before ST started?
Mumford and Sons remind me of Flogging Molly. But maybe that’s just me. I like them both for the record though.
I don’t even think I realized how dominant Betances was last season until I looked at his stats again tonight.
The kid had a 4.91 K/BB ratio. Comparable to Hughes in 2006 with 4.94, who went into the 2007 season as the #4 prospect in baseball. Joba in 2007 with 5.00, who went into 2008 as the #3 prospect in baseball.
Julio Teheran, generally considered the top pitching prospect in baseball had a 3.98 K/BB last season.
“Rich in NJ, I remember when that was happening and then at zero hour Bernie caved. But wasn’t that in the off season and well before ST started?”
That was after the season. Boras tried to get a deal done before the season for like $50m, but George wasn’t interested.
trisha – true pinstriped blue February 15th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
Does anyone remember another situation like that one, a premier player still negotiating with his team on the eve of ST?
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Used to happen a lot…Mantle, Koufax, Drysdale, etc.
Has happened fewer times where players have played out their contract…some like Santana got traded when the team figured out it couldn’t sign them…Some like Giambi were allowed to go FA…
I think it should be Tex (he’s a bit of a hothead). It should be a Pujols-Tex trade prank.
Or Joba to Scranton prank.
I remember when Flogging Molly was just starting out at Molly Malone’s.
Chad–the group that blew me away at awards last night was Mumford & Son
Lgy,
Betances may have a higher ceiling than Banuelos or Hughes…..although he may have a lesser chance of reaching it. I think Cashman called him perhaps their best pitching prospect ever.
The Wilpons want a silent minority partner. That is not Donald Trump.
I want to see Granderson prank Sabathia, and then see CC dunk CG in the nearest trash can!
Again, then, this stuff with Pujols is just nuts. Deadlines. Throw in an extra day. Yada yada yada. I guess it can be all forgotten in a matter of weeks once the ink dries on the contract but it can’t be a comfortable situation for either side. My feeling is that in the immediate there will be no winners in that contest.
“The Wilpons want a silent minority partner. That is not Donald Trump.”
What they want and what they ultimately need may turn out to be two different things.
Plus, do you honestly think anyone will sink $250m into that franchise and not demand input?
But..I was joking!
Chad, Arcade fire reminds a cross of interpol and Natural Milk hotel with some of their riffs and vocal respectively.
Trump and Wilpon are buddies…..I think he said he would consider helping out a friend.
a cross btw.
I’m with you BoJo. I was amazing by the entire Mumford-Avett-Dylan performance. Then again, I’m a huge fan of all three. I thought Mumford and Sons was the standout performance of the night, though Dylan and Jagger were easily the coolest guys in the room.
neutral milk hotel. that too.
Trisha, Pujols is signed for this season, this negotiation is about an extension beyond 2011.
Bojo, I guess I don’t remember any this visible going down to the wire. We’re not talking Santana or Giambi. We’re talking just about the best player in the game.
I thought it was Tebow on stage during the Mumford performance.
How about a Minka pregnancy scare?
Trump to Ollie Perez:
“You’re friggin fired!”
By the way, since someone mentioned his name, I’ve seen Dellin Betances probably two dozen times in the past two days. Every single time I’m amazed at how big he is.
I wouldn’t doubt that Curtis can actually dunk over CC
Trish, not right off hand, but, they have had them negotiating into the season. DiMaggio held out for nearly a week into the season back in….his 2nd year.
Funny watching Jagger with his peers as opposed to Jagger prancing on the runway at Super Bowl half time. He was basically a pariah at the Super Bowl and a king at the Grammys.
Not surpising.
# blake February 15th, 2011 at 10:48 pm
Lgy,
Betances may have a higher ceiling than Banuelos or Hughes…..although he may have a lesser chance of reaching it. I think Cashman called him perhaps their best pitching prospect ever.
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Rich, I do think ultimately the Wilpons will be forced to sell the team, but I don’t think they are prepared to give up control yet.
Nick – ohhhhhhh.
Based on that, what is supposed to be the significance of the deadline passing? Just that they’re done talking about it for this season?
Boy does that make me pretty stupid, thinking that they were still dealing with his contract for this season.
Again, Fran
What’s the outcome of the cause of action that Picard is pursing?
Do the Wilpons settle, if so, it is closer to their figure or Picard’s?
Until we know the resolution of this case, it’s all speculation.
I thought Mick Jagger was superb and the best performer of the night, 67 years old and singing bluesy soul like that; amazing. I love Bob Dylan but he sounded awful in my opinion.
Glad to see that real music has returned. Hip-hop was an afterthought. I think they were all in jail last year, TI and Little Wayne anyway.
He said that if they don’t work out a contract before Spring Training starts then he won’t negotiate during the season… which would make him a free agent after the World Series.
So it’s kind of dramatic if they don’t come to an agreement now.
But isn’t it still bizarre that they have failed to tie it up with someone like Pujols?
I saw Mumford & Sons play last fall in NYC.
I guess I’ll be able to say I saw them before they were big.
The Yankees have potentally a better front three than the Knicks, Nets or Celtics. Those are 4 huge pitchers in Sabathia, Betances, Sisco and Brackman.
Rich, you’re right. And it may not be settled for a long time.
It’s Lil Wayne, and D Carter will be back.
Marcus Mumford and Country Winston – that’s marketing heaven.
Shows how tuned in I am to rap Jackson.
Nick, you’re absolutely right. It would make it very dramatic in fact. Then all kinds of unknowns come into it. How much loyalty does Pujols feel to the Cards? how much loyalty will he feel based on their inability to work out his extension before the season began? where did the Cards end up and if not in a great place, might Pujols want to try to go to a more promising team? what teams could afford Pujols? etc. etc. etc.
It is obviously to the team’s benefit to tie him up post haste!
Chad
I was always amazed at just how tall and big Dellin Betances is. When I went up there today, I noticed him before anyone else. I didn’t even need the Roster to know it was him.
BTW–Eminem put on a great performance…blew the roof off
The one performance that blew me away was Barbara Streisand. I’m not a huge fan because I od’d on it a’s crib music.
But she’s still got it. .
Betances has a chance to be great. When he’s been healthy, they have not been able to hit him at all, yet.
Based on tyanksfan mentioning Flogging Molly ( a lifelong ambition of mine btw), I checked out their music…very nice! Love “Sun Never Shines (on Closed Doors)” Thanks TY!
I would be okay with Pujols not signing an extension now, who knows, it could someone tempt the Redsocks to monkey around with AGon and perhaps end up with neither.
Doubtful, but you never know how the dominoes will fall.
I saw Betances pitch in Lakewood a few years ago for the riverdogs.
I guess I’ll be able to say I saw him before he was big
Betances, Brackman, Sisco, CC, and Logan would make a pretty good BB team.
I didn’t get to tune in last night until almost the very end of the Grammys so didn’t see many of the live performances. Got to see Jagger prance and also saw Streisand.
Listening to Streisand still can give me chills. Imagine that she used to give free concerts in Central Park. Wow.
I didn’t realize Mumford & Sons were british until I looked them up…
“I would be okay with Pujols not signing an extension now, who knows, it could someone tempt the Redsocks to monkey around with AGon and perhaps end up with neither.”
What an awesome thought.
Skylar Gray who sung with Eminem, Dre and Rihanna at the Grammy’s is going to explode. She wrote Rihanna’s lyrics ?n “L?k? Th? Way Y?? Lie” and wrote th? chorus for Dr. Dre’s “I Need A Doctor”. Sh? ?? ?l?? co-wrote Diddy’s Dirty Money, “Coming Home”.
She’s been to my home quite a few times, she’s a very unassuming shy girl from Wisconsin. Great voice and writer in that genre and she has made the right connections.
GB, the Yanks definitely have size. Who’s the tallest and most productive hitter you’ve ever seen?
“Marcus Mumford and Country Winston – that’s marketing heaven.”
Leave ‘em alone and let them create. Not too many bands sing about Plato and Shakespeare…
“The one performance that blew me away was Barbara Streisand. I’m not a huge fan because I od’d on it a’s crib music.
But she’s still got it. .”
Sorry, my I-phone has taken control.
GB, are you still here? I think I hear zee French gourmand!!!
BTW Trish–
Of course there is a difference between now and pre-FA days. Back then, the holdouts were for the coming season…now the players have their FA status if not signed by November, and the only holdouts are for extensions. Not as dramatic as the Koufax/Drysdale holdout.
Bojo
My best friend in high school was and still is a huge Flogging Molly fan, when I heard “little lion man” on the radio I thought it was them for the longest time until it showed up on my Pandora as Mumford and Sons. I really haven’t listened to much of their music but that song is eerily similar to flogging molly. I’m glad you enjoyed their music.
Jackson February 15th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
GB, the Yanks definitely have size. Who’s the tallest and most productive hitter you’ve ever seen?
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Just butting in:
Frank Howard
Dave Kingman
Dave Winfield
Tom in N.J. February 15th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
“Marcus Mumford and Country Winston – that’s marketing heaven.” Leave ‘em alone and let them create. Not too many bands sing about Plato and Shakespeare…
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I’m just saying they have great names. And, they are legit musicians, something the music scene needs more of.
Not sure what will happen with them, but Jose Ramirez, Bryan Mitchell and Brett Marshall just might be the best of the bunch and they’re just 2 years behind this next group.
But then again, deadmau5 may be the most popular music figure in the world right now. I don’t get DJ electro trance music.
m – Streisand is phenomenal. And she’s equally talented as an actress. Yes, she’s still got it.
Unlike Mick Magger at the Super Bowl who looked like a total idiot and sounded even worse. I guess he “reinvented” himself last night – unless he was lip syncing a la Ashlee Simpson!
Best and most productive is Winfield, the tallest was no dog, Frank Howard.
Bojo, was Frank Thomas taller than Howard? Lazy here. How tall was Kingman?
Good night all
Good night Brad.
trisha – true pinstriped blue February 15th, 2011 at 11:12 pm
GB, are you still here? I think I hear zee French gourmand!!!
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Yeah, he’ll make some stupid remark and follow it up with a “hee hee hee” and a “tee hee’.
Thomas was about 6’5″ and 260 pounds. Kingman was 6’6″ and about 230 pounds.
Night Bojo. Watch out for German plumbers and French gourmands on your way out of cyberspace. And for Heaven sake, don’t be fooled by the woman in drag!!!
If you get a chance to stop by, all of the Grammy winners are at my house right now. I know everybody. Well, through a friend of mine in the music business.
WCYF -
Is Skylar Gray the artist who “beat out” Justin Bieber?
I put my tv on while I was preparing dinner and happened to catch Ben Vereen on some talk show (Wendy something?). I caught it in the middle. He was saying that Bieber is talented and it would have been nice if he won, BUT that the young lady who won is an incredible talent and very deserving. So, I’m wondering if that is who he was talking about?
“Yeah, he’ll make some stupid remark and follow it up with a “hee hee hee” and a “tee hee’.”
LMAO!!!!!
Jackson February 15th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
Bojo, was Frank Thomas taller than Howard? Lazy here. How tall was Kingman?
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No
Thomas 6’5″
Howard 6’7″
Winfield 6’6″
Kingman 6’6″
Good night
Thanks GB and Bojo
trisha – true pinstriped blue February 15th, 2011 at 11:11 pm
“The one performance that blew me away was Barbara Streisand. I’m not a huge fan because I od’d on it a’s crib music.
But she’s still got it. .”
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As good as Streisand was/is, she still pales in comparison to Nana Mouskouri. That’s just my preference, of course.
Justin Bieber’s at my house right now. He’s kind of depressed.
Doreen. She was nominated for song of the year “Love the way you lie” and lost to Lady Antebellum.
It really highlights just how horrible of a season Burnett had that even if his ERA drops .7 of a run, it would still be way above his career AVG.
Sure thing, Jackson. As a hitter, thomas over Winfield. As a ballplayer? Winfield all day long.
“Nana Mouskouri”
Oh dear. She’s not at my house GB. I didn’t invite her because (gulp) I don’t know who she is.
Esperanza Spalding is one of the following:
A. The artist that beat out Justin Bieber
B. The Yankees newest international free agent signing
C. A rubber ball heiress
West Coast, does your friend in the music business go by the name of “A Little Birdie”?
http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/i.....my-effect/
Lady Antebellum’s at my house too.
Jackson, yes, I am on his mailing list.
No, Doreen. Someone named Esparanza. I think she plays the cello or something, too.
WCYF said to watch out for Skylar Gray (though I think she should watch out for him j/k!) next year. He may be right because Lady Antebellum performed last yr and scooped all the awards.
Spalding beat out Bieber. She’s here too!
Thanks WCYF.
I did not watch the Grammys last night. Seems like I missed a good one.
thank goodness for YouTube – I just watched Streisand and Jagger.
Bronx Jeers -
So are you telling me that Esperanza Spalding is the artist that beat out Justin Bieber and the one to whom Ben Vereen was referring today?
“West Coast, does your friend in the music business go by the name of “A Little Birdie”?”
The Lefsetz Letter is worth subscribing to, he’s very, very opinionated but knows the music business inside and out. Been doing it for 25 years now.
So are you telling me that Esperanza Spalding is the artist that beat out Justin Bieber and the one to whom Ben Vereen was referring today?
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Yes.
On the Wendy Williams show.
trisha – true pinstriped blue February 15th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
“Nana Mouskouri”
Oh dear. She’s not at my house GB. I didn’t invite her because (gulp) I don’t know who she is.
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That’s ashamed, Trisha. Incredible voice. Some really good music videos on youtube. Well worth listening to. Invite her over for your next party.
It’s terrific that Spalding won, part of the trend last night that embraced more traditionally talented artists and music rather than gimicky stuff.
My Guess would have been the wife of naval commander in the battle of Trafalgar, Jeer.
GB – you know I will. Like right now. Listen to her on youtube that is!
Did you ever listen to music by Edith Piaf? If so, were you impressed?
I think Techno, trance and house music goes down best with the drug of your choice WC.
One sec…so you call an email subscription similar as to you would call a person a friend? Or you’re friends of Lefsetz?
Ms. Spalding giving her best cello face.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi.....alding.jpg
Very beautiful. Her voice reminds me a little bit of Sarah Brightman.
Yes and that’s not my thing. But it’s popularity is stunning in any event.
Trisha, I have a few of Edith Piafs recordings, but, what a voice. My favorite is Smoke Gets In Your Eyes
Here’s a Mouskouri song that was a Kristofferson and Coolidge song. She has a great voice, too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYSuU9ojaAs
Eva Cassidy had the most beautiful, melodic female voice I have ever heard. She passed away tragically in her early thirties. I really recommend a listen, especially to her album “Live At Blues Alley”.
“One sec…so you call an email subscription similar as to you would call a person a friend?”
Jackson, you’re too sharp for me so before you catch me in a lie, let me admit something. Lady Antebellum is NOT at my house. Just Justin Bieber and Esperanza Spalding.
Night all!
West Coast, not sure if your 11:43 was directed towards my question.
I like anything with a good rhythmic beat, including songs like G6, We No Speak Americano, and London Calling.
Purists may look down on that, but it’s fun music.
“Tall Trees In Georgia” – will give you chills.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A187CscJuGA
I actually listen to it a lot when I am in the casinos. kinda blocks out lot of other noise and pump you up. Or, if I am in Amsterdam right now I would be but I digress WC.
Motown
I assume your’e a smart guy Jackson figure it out.
sic – you’re
Cashmoney – you mean you like DJ/techno/trance, not sure if that’s what you meant.
Something like this WC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nPAkX1oot0
GB, absolutely gorgeous. The song I had listened to was this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9GPFsVJuu4
The one you had me listen to reminded me a little of Judy Collins. It appears that Mouskouri has that sweet and soothing kind of voice (at least it sounded like it in those two songs) where Streisand has a totally different timbre. Streisand has that powerful voice that doesn’t quit. Two entirely different styles. Streisand can evoke so many different kinds of emotions with her songs. She is really an amazing talent. I heard that she had stopped doing concerts because she was getting stage fright, something like that, and just didn’t feel comfortable singing in public anymore. I was really surprised to see her perform at the Grammy’s.
Got it. It’s not my preferred genre but I respect all musicians and creativity and appreciate the talent. We get into these arguments all the time here. It’s genesis is generational I think.
West Coast, in order to assume intelligence, I would have make sure your response is directed at me. If not, you can alter the conversation in many ways.
I watched Justin Bieber on Conan and Chelsea Lately and I loved that he was honest in admitting that he was mad he didn’t win, who wouldn’t be? I was upset too and before saturday I didn’t really like him. That darn cute face he has and those catchy beats haha. I think seeing his movie and hearing his story made me actually like him.
Jackson – I have no idea what on earth you are talking about. Just having a pleasant music conversation here. You want to contribute?
# West Coast Yankee Fan February 15th, 2011 at 11:51 pm
sic – you’re
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If you are going to correct other people’s spelling, please read this.
How to Use Sic Properly:
http://www.ehow.co.uk/how_6796.....ments.html
tyanksfan36 do you agree music taste is generational in large part, I assume you are young is that right?
I think most people know what sic means here. Thanks LGY.
I didn’t like that Lady Antebellum won practically everything. I saw them in concert 3 years ago for free as part of a homecoming festival at USF and didn’t really like them though I think their music has gotten better. Also, when did the Grammys stop giving out awards during the show, they gave out like 6 in 3 hours.
And by the way LGY, I use sic to correct “my errors” not other people’s spelling.
“I think most people know what sic means here. Thanks LGY.”
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Yes, they probably do.
Unfortunately you do not, which is why I pointed you to an article that explains how to use it.
Such a pleasant music conversation that you had between Chad’s post and yourself:
West Coast Yankee Fan February 15th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
Chad since you are interested, a friend in the music business provided these sales stats after the Grammy’s. (through 3 am EST that night)
Mumford & Sons (was #1 on I-Tunes)
Sigh No More – 31,189 +156%
Little Lion Man – 42,664 +88%
The Cave – 37,899 +114%
And I showed a website that shows the same exact information (simply by Googling what you posted). So I asked a question about your friendship that you originated.
tyanksfan36 – they won in large part because of their cross-over appeal. That’s the golden egg in the music business today due to the changes in the industry. “Need you now” is also a very good song IMO.
Jackson or whoever you are pretending to be, I’m sitting here listening to music drinking a glass of wine and am in no mood for playing childish games. I said I have a friend in the music business that provided those stats to me. I assume you understand English.
West Coast
I do believe that music is generational, There is, in my opinion, a big difference in the music my parents listened to in the 70′s and 80′s all which I love, then what I grew up listening to. I think I have a wide array of music that I enjoy though. Pretty much anything but rap. I like Tom Petty, aerosmith, simon and garfunkel, the black eyed peas, paramore, tim mcgraw, metallica. You get the picture. Pretty much, if its on the radio ill listen to it. But my parents and my older brother all think the music that is new now is awful, they stick by their oldies.
LGY –
I don’t know if it’s the hour or the content or a combination of both but you and GB have had me laughing out loud. And as someone who truly loves to laugh out loud, all I can say is keep ‘em coming!!!
It is just so funny, watching the egotistical idiot get caught up in his own lies, LMAO!
Trisha, these videos are from the mid to late 70s mostly. She’s now 75 years old and retired. Trained as an opera singer, but, as you’ve noticed, she has a beautiful voice but, a liitle too soft for opera. She was a friend of Maria Callas. Sings in 9 languages. Her folk music is very much Collins/baez style, and she sings Simon and garfunkle, Willie Nelson, Kristofferson, John Denver. Loving Arms, Sweet Surrender, Bridge Over Troubled Water….unbelievable. Perfect on cold rainy nights in front of a fireplace with wine. I prefer it with a lady, though, I suggest that’s not your type.
“I’m a believer in reincarnation.
Being reborn again as a flower. There’s proof of it on this board. Look at the trolls. They’re all blooming idiots.”
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GB7 – I read this earlier, and could not stop laughing. And now, after reading through this post, it’s even more relevant.
tyanks, I think you disproved your theory by mentioning the vast array of music that you enjoy! I think people who believe music is generational are merely products of their own limitations. You are certainly not one of them!
Having grown up in a household with a sister who is a classical pianist and four other siblings, I can tell you it is as much exposure as anything else.
Seattle Times talks to Montero
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....ero_u.html
h/t RAB
Good night folks.
“I prefer it with a lady, though, I suggest that’s not your type.”
You would have that right. And not even a woman in drag!!!
Good night Big Al! If you get a chance to stop by, I have Lady Gaga’s egg here. A friend of mine in the music industry lent it to me!!!
Trisha -
The Mick is here at my place, although I must admit, it’s just a large picture on my office wall, to me it’s the real thing, I believe, I believe, I believe ………….
Once more good night.
P.S. – now that I’m saying good night, the troll will post an attack after I’ve gone, he always seems to do that, very brave guy? It’s a gender thing I guess.
West Coast, childish? Understanding English? I think you need a class on reading comprehension. I don’t think you match wits with 95% of posters on this board. I’ll leave the remaining for the trolls. Drink the wine slower next time.
tyanksfan36 February 16th, 2011 at 12:10 am
West Coast – I do believe that music is generational, There is, in my opinion, a big difference in the music my parents listened to in the 70?s and 80?s all which I love, then what I grew up listening to. I think I have a wide array of music that I enjoy though. Pretty much anything but rap. I like Tom Petty, aerosmith, simon and garfunkel, the black eyed peas, paramore, tim mcgraw, metallica. You get the picture. Pretty much, if its on the radio ill listen to it. But my parents and my older brother all think the music that is new now is awful, they stick by their oldies.
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I agree tyanks, music as a representation of the culture of the time is definitely generational. There’s no question about that. Parents naturally gravitate to the music they grew up with and don’t quite get their kids taste. Some of it though is so good that it becomes universally loved and timeless, like the Beatles, Frank Sinatra, etc. And many baby boomer parents have done a good job exposing their children to classic rock recently. I see them both at concerts. You sound like you appreciate all genres, that’s great.
Trisha
I believe that music is generational for some people. My parents always exposed me to music from their era, I wasn’t allowed to listen to the radio until I was 10 when I became infatuated with boy bands. So I like a lot of music, coincidentally I don’t really like much of the music that was made when I didn’t listen to the radio for the new stuff. I think the reason I like Justin Bieber for example is because his music is a lot like nsync and backstreet boys. I know it doesn’t make much sense. I’ve been up for a long time so my thoughts aren’t translating to words how I want them to.
I don’t know that I’d be sitting and listening to music and bragging about drinking Ripple out of the bottle. Make sure the cap is screwed back on type. It’ll go flat and you’ll have wasted $2.98.
Evening all,
I love Barbra Streisand’s voice and acting ability. She is no spring chicken. She’s my age I think.
SAS, that is a spring chicken.
Trisha,
You are doing fantasy baseball….me too. I am going to be the biggest loser because I haven’t the foggiest idea how to begin to know players on other teams. I am going to have to work hard just to select a team.
GB,
You could help me pick a fantasy team.
That’s quite an assumption GB. It happens to be a rather good Pinot; a 2002 Etude Heirloom. Carry on.
West coast
Yes, that’s what I’m trying to say. My parents don’t really like a lot of the music they are making today but because I was always exposed to music of the 60′s-80′s, I can appreciate it more. Because I like the majority of todays music, I have a wide array of genres and taste in music whereas my parents only really like “their” music.
SAS, I’d love to help you, but, I’ve never played Fantasy Baseball and have no idea about the rules of drafting. Are you in with Doreen’s group?
Tyank, it probably is for some people.
Hey SAS! Streisand was great last night on the Grammys.
GB –
GB,
Yes, with Trisha, Fran, Erica, etc….a lot of smart competition.
You’re trying too hard to impress people on here with your “exquisite tastes”, contacts and “friends” and money. Nobody cares and nobody believes it anyway.
GB,
I have no idea in this world what I am doing in this, but what the hay; I’ll give it a shot.
tyanksfan36 February 16th, 2011 at 12:34 am
West coast – Yes, that’s what I’m trying to say. My parents don’t really like a lot of the music they are making today but because I was always exposed to music of the 60?s-80?s, I can appreciate it more. Because I like the majority of todays music, I have a wide array of genres and taste in music whereas my parents only really like “their” music.
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That’s great. I admit I had to work hard to listen to and appreciate genres of music I didn’t grow up with. I think as one gets older, it’s natural to feel an affinity for the music of your youth that you associate understandably with being carefree, first love, great times. I was pretty much locked into classic rock but now I appreciate so much more, even some hip-hop and good country. Empire State Of Mind is one of my favorite songs as an example and I love old Eminem.
GB: I had never heard of her. Wow!! Just listening to her….. don’t tell my wife…. I think I’m in love !!!
SAS – let me tell you one of the best ways to approach it, without having to know players on all of the other teams. (Believe me though, as the season goes on you will get to know every player out there! It’s a nice way to learn other teams.) Go to ESPN and take a look at their rankings. They will rank every player in the game from top to bottom. I think you can also sort the rankings by position. So you will get to know which players are ranked where. You can probably make your own list that way, ranking by position. With 14 people competing, you’ll see a lot of your choices go by the wayside pretty quickly, but by having your choices written down, you will be able to cross off players as they are drafted by others and know who you want to draft when your turn comes around.
SAS, they can help you most of all. I think their draft is in a week or so. Need to know how many draft rounds there are and make a list for each spot on your roster with the best players at each position. If you have 15 teams, 15 names. If they’re picked, cross off the name and draft the best left when your turn comes. I’ll help all you want with names, though.
tyanks,
You are exactly right about music. My kids are quite a bit older than you are, and I thought their music, especially later on was not for me. Now we have more of a meeting of the minds. My grandson’s music will really be weird.
Listened to Eva too. Pretty voice, but a bit rougher sounding IMHO.
What friends GB7? One up and coming songwriter? What contacts? I was not talking to you tonight and you come on and decide to offer up your childish nonsense that I was drinking Ripple, etc. I just corrected you, if you don’t like it don’t address me.
DadinIowa February 16th, 2011 at 12:44 am
Listened to Eva too. Pretty voice, but a bit rougher sounding IMHO.
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Rougher sounding? Interesting take that I have never heard was it a good quality recording? Try listening to all of Blues Alley if you haven’t already.
Dad, Mouskouri was just amazing. One of the many songs on youtube is the French Version of Dylan’s “Farewell, Angelina”. Verdi’s song Liberty is great, too. Not a clinker in the bunch.
Trisha,
Thanks so much. Fortunately, we have some time to do the research. If I had to do it tomorrow, I probably would beg off. I simply don’t know players who aren’t stars and certainly with the National League. I am going to work on this…I hope.
“You’re trying too hard to impress people on here with your “exquisite tastes”, contacts and “friends” and money. Nobody cares and nobody believes it anyway.”
Boy I second, third, fourth, fifth, and sixth that!
Yeah, SAS, what Trisha stole from me.
Trisha you’re a pompous nothing. I look forward to you ignoring me.
Please be nice, all. Too much nastiness in the blog today. But, I found a new book to read and good music. Not to mention the Yankee info. You guys are great. (just don’t call names
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I don’t know why people call people out, whether it’s SJ or WCYF. I take everything at face value. If someone said they’re the in or connected, I accept it. They’re either telling the truth or living a fantasy, neither one concerns me. But this game of “Gotcha!” is so old.
Dad, from now on, I’ll be polite. Do I fave to call you “FatherInIowa”?
“Gotcha!” is old. But the name calling is worse. GB, I have been called a LOT worse…. and that’s just by my friends!!
M – FYI, I am connected to nothing and I never said I was. I have some friends in the music and film business due to what I do for a living that’s all, I never said anything other than that. It’s not important and I have never made an issue about it.
But I appreciate what you and DadinIowa said and will try to take that to heart.
The lonely one is still giving it the old college try. LMAO !
SAS, the ESPN site will become your best friend. If you really throw yourself into it – I tend to do that when I take on any venture – you will be able to see on a day-by-day basis which players are being dropped from rosters and which players are being added. If you draft someone who ends up being a lemon, you can always drop that player and pick up someone else! There will always be a free agent list available to us, specific to our league. For instance, there are 32 teams in the majors. If there are 14 of us in our league, it will mean that there could be 18 players in each position who haven’t been drafted. Say you are not happy with your left fielder, whoever it is. You can go to the free agent list and sort all available left fielders and check out trends. Every player will have an associated “player card” where you can see what he has done for the past 6 games, what teams he’ll be playing in the next week, how he typically does against those teams, etc. Believe me, the stats and charts that we will have available to us will cross your eyes! As the season goes on I will be happy to point you to some of the more valuable ones. Say there is a free agent left fielder out there who is raking. You might want to drop your left fielder and pick up the free agent. You can do that kind of thing all season long.
I learned those things the hard way. I never did my homework when I drafted and ended up doing a lot of mixing and matching throughout the seasons. This year I have vowed to do homework ahead of time!
Hope that helps a little.
Trisha,
I have never tried Iced Green Tea. When I splurge and get shaken iced tea lemonade, I always get black tea because I am sure I won’t like the green one. I need a lot of lemon in tea anyway to make it taste the way I like it…and sweetner.
“Trisha you’re a pompous nothing. I look forward to you ignoring me.”
The French Gourmand! I see you’ve sybilled the German plumber, aka Vineyard.
What a riot!!!
Dad, I don’t want to be overly polite and proper by calling you “Pater”.
I’ve been called a lot of names too, and most were earned, I’m sure. It’s just the “let me impress ‘em” crap that’s annoying.
Anyway, how’s your weather out in the wild and wooly mid-west?
A lot warmer now. Snow is going away and its supposed to be in the 60s on Thursday, so can’t complain about the weather. I guess “Pater” is better than what my kids call me sometimes…. “old man”. I hope affectionately.
Trisha,
Thanks again. I am not good at studying. I was a really good student without much hard work, and it has been a year or two. Example: I wrote a book report for history on Berlin Diary. By mistake my teacher gave me an A+. I assume it was a mistake. Any way 3 years later my sister copied my book report word for word and got a C+. I also had a better handwriting which may have helped…no computers…only old fashioned typewriters so I wrote by hand.
Fantasy baseball sounds like a lot if work. Just for the draft! I would be pizzed if I did all that work and players I wanted got snatched up.
Anyone see Knocked Up? I love the part where Paul Rudd gets busted by his wife for having an “affair”. He was actually sneaking off to do his fantasy draft.
LMAO. Dad, I don’t get called names by my girls. I guess they figure I won’t loan ‘em money or something. My mom lives in Illinois, by St Louis, and she was talking about the snow and ice and then it warmed into the 50s. Wasn’t sure how dad you guys got it futher north. an early slow thaw in your area is good if you live around the big rivers, though.
I really didn’t mean to come across as preachy (sp?). You guys are just a great resource and very entertaining when the nastiness doesn’t take over the blog. I lurk a LOT more than I ever post, I hope that is not impolite. Its great to have so many opinions on so many subjects, too. Too bad some lose their credibility by being judgmental and nasty. Even those folks would be a great asset to the blog if their posts did not get bogged down by the bad things. I even joy the Red Sox fans (btw, GB, where is your RS fan friend…. brian? been? I also miss our friend from Amsterdam
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“Knocked Up” was a pretty funny movie. Mostly, I liked the soundtrack to the movie. Loudon Wainwright is a lot better song writer and singer than I thought he was.
mel, it’s a horrifying and tension-filled experience. And that’s just the draft! And you’re exactly right. You sit there waiting for your turn to get the player you want and someone three places before you gets the person. So you turn to your next pick, only to find that the person right in front of you has taken him. And when it’s your turn, you’re on the clock the whole time and get to hear and watch it tick down, so you feel even more pressure to make a pick. So you make a pick and take note of the player you want next – only to find the person after you has taken him. And with 14 people drafting, it’s even worse. You sit through 13 damned picks. Can you imagine watching all of your picks going south?
I’ve only been involved in drafts with 10 people, and that was torture. I can’t imagine 14.
Early thaw is great…but makes the next snow the more depressing. SAS, I remember writing a 104 page paper on an old electric typewriter in school (before computers). I had to, my handwriting sucked then as bad as GB’s spelling is now !!
Dad,
There are many lurkers. I read more than chat because I am always behind in AZ. When I am in NY, there are too many weird people during the games. So I skip the games and wait til the regulars are back.
I am glad it is going to be 60 in Iowa. It was just getting warmer here mid 70′s and now we are going back down to the 50′s and 60′s with rain over the weekend.
Trisha,
I would love your email address if you don’t mind.
Brian is pretty close to where Trisha is, I think they stay in touch. Ray “sox fan” pops in seldom. I think the electricity in Maine is frozen in the lines.
GB, your mom lives in a lot warmer place in the midwest than I do. St. Louis is a good area, but isn’t it depressing that she lives so far from you? We have been lucky in our family to have all 3 of our daughters still in Iowa, as well as my parents and my wife’s mother.
Ray and Dennis must be over the moon with their new toys. Hopefully the Sox break their new toys.
DadinIowa February 16th, 2011 at 1:10 am
Early thaw is great…but makes the next snow the more depressing. SAS, I remember writing a 104 page paper on an old electric typewriter in school (before computers). I had to, my handwriting sucked then as bad as GB’s spelling is now !!
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If my spelling has done anything, it’s made others straighten up theirs. nobody seems to want to be known as being worse than me. Chickens.
SAS, I keep track of the weather in Phoenix as my folks are “snowbirds” in Mesa. I am envious that you live there. I miss both Brian and Ray. But, I am such a “lurker” that I even usually read the game threads (but after the game). Although, I do admit to sometimes skipping over the posts of everyone who is not on my “favorites” list that exists only in my mind and which changes over time….. heck…… even GB has been on that list!!!
WCYF…….I hate seeing you getting hammered everyday here and the season hasn’t even started yet……..Might be time ti hire a PR firm to rehab your image….I do think you contribute some good insights but you need to play nice and get rid of that neon target you’re wearing……..
I hope Ray and Dennis wont’ mind losing out to this year’s “upstart” NY Yankees
GB, your mom lives in a lot warmer place in the midwest than I do. St. Louis is a good area, but isn’t it depressing that she lives so far from you? We have been lucky in our family to have all 3 of our daughters still in Iowa, as well as my parents and my wife’s mother.
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Yeah, it is, but, she lives with my sister and her husband. All of her doctors are in St. Louis and she doesn’t trust any of the others but, hers. They’ve kept her alive and kicking for 15 years.
DadinIowa, some posters take less kindly to trolls than others. And they’re not afraid to call them out. Then there are some others here who were on other sites with some posters here who come up with multiple identities. So they just let others know what is going on, though the posters here, especially the regulars, are usually savvy enough to pick up on it. That kind of thing is really juvenile and annoying. But we deal with it.
As with anything, there are all personality types on a forum. Some people totally ignore trolls and the multiples, others take them on. C’est la vie. Don’t let it ruin your day. Every once in a while, you’ll find a day with total cohesion, usually when the trolls take a day away and there is harmony. But those days are the exception. Even the regulars won’t always agree with each other. Take it with a grain of salt, all part of forum life.
Brian and I walk together every day. Right now he is in Florida for a few weeks. I think he is a little reticent to come onto the forum. I think he tried to sign up when we finally got registration but something went wrong and he thought it was because he was a Sux fan. Maybe once the season begins he will come back, especially since he believes the Sux to be superior to the Yanks!
The “good” WCYF is a great asset to the blog. The “bad” WCYF makes it difficult to not skip over his posts. But, I felt the same way about SJ today, too. But the “bad” SJ doesn’t’ appear too often. Now….. the “bad” SAS……… well………. THAT’s a difficult kettle of fish altogether
SAS, absolutely. Email Chad and ask him to provide you with my email address or ask him to forward your email to me.
Dennis hasn’t been around for over a year. I know his wife still has her photography studios, so he may still be up north…just busy. Talk about a lady that can use a camera, Dennis’ wife is incredible.
Pat M. February 16th, 2011 at 1:18 am
WCYF…….I hate seeing you getting hammered everyday here and the season hasn’t even started yet……..Might be time ti hire a PR firm to rehab your image….I do think you contribute some good insights but you need to play nice and get rid of that neon target you’re wearing……..
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Fair enough I appreciate that. Feel free to let me know when you feel I am saying something unwarranted. I trust you will also make note of others that do the same and be honest about who instigates it.
Trisha, Brian was a great asset to the blog. I really hope he comes back. I really enjoy people disagreeing….. that’s how we learn. Its the nastiness and repetitive arguments that are really tough to stomach. e.g…… if I hear ONE more argument about CC’s opt out…… vis a vis Brian Cashman….. I think that I will absolutely scream !!
Thank God this board has Randy to keep it in check and defuse the friction around here.
Does it matter who instigates it? We are not four year olds where we have to be disrespectful to someone else just because they were disrespectful to us? Don’t we tell our kids to “play nice, and if you can’t, then just ignore the trouble makers if you can”? BTW, I don’t mean to pick on you WCYF, we have ALL done it. We just need to be as mature as we can. I would really, really hate to lose this great blog.
GB……..Are you saying that The Tin Cup is like some easy going Sheriff……Is this Wednesday’s joke of the day ????
Pat M. February 16th, 2011 at 1:29 am
GB……..Are you saying that The Tin Cup is like some easy going Sheriff……Is this Wednesday’s joke of the day ????
Well, GB, between you and Randy….. you are our senior citizens of the blog. I am really amazed that you both saw Ty Cobb play. We expect you guys to never be repetitive (Twin’s vs. Yankees pitching for example).
Pat M. February 16th, 2011 at 1:29 am
GB……..Are you saying that The Tin Cup is like some easy going Sheriff……Is this Wednesday’s joke of the day ????
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Pat, pretty much. I’m trying to figure out whether he Andy Taylor or Barney Fife, though.
DadinIowa, I am so with you! Someone posited that there are certain people who only get joy in being miserable. I do believe a few of them attempt to reside here! Please post more and lurk less. You are a breath of fresh air.
I think it was Joe from Long Island who said today that it is so nice to be at the beginning of a new season, where hope springs eternal! What a nice way to start the season, as opposed to whining about CC’s opt out (who cares) and what Cashman had to say about it. I think you will find many more glass half fullers here than glass half emptiers. It’s just that the half emptiers are whiners by nature so you tend to hear their whining a lot more than the contented sighs of the better adjusted amongst us!
GB…..Randy has a little Kojak in him
DadinIowa February 16th, 2011 at 1:31 am
Well, GB, between you and Randy….. you are our senior citizens of the blog. I am really amazed that you both saw Ty Cobb play. We expect you guys to never be repetitive (Twin’s vs. Yankees pitching for example).
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IO only saw Cobb in his last year. Randy was Cobb’s little league coach.
Pat M……. we have had a LOT of jokes of the day on the blog today. PLEASE…. don’t get Erica started again….. please??????
Pat M. February 16th, 2011 at 1:33 am
GB…..Randy has a little Kojak in him
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Bald as a cue ball, huh?
Trisha, I agree with you. And they say lawyers can never seem to agree….
Oh my God, another lawyer! Yahoo, DadinIowa. I knew I recognized something inspiring in you!!!
Well….. time for bed. You’all take care and say good morning to the morning people for me.
DadinIowa…….Let’s be clear here, GB auditioned for the role that went to Burt Lancaster in Field of Dreams……..Cup played in the film as the bullpen catcher and caught Cy Young who was later cut and left oh the editors floor
Randy caught the real Cy Young’s rookie season.
Dad…did you say the bad SAS even in jest…I rarely say anything to people who are driving me nuts, and believe me, it’s not easy sometimes.
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GB,
Is you Mom still alive??? That is wonderful
GB…..I always thought it was Walter Johnson
Night DiI! I think I will probably sign off too. Today was an especially sweet day for me as I was able to eschew all responsibility and hang on lohud. I’m sure it brought discomfort to the trolls and multiples, but all the better I say! Unforunately I fear I will get pulled back into the real world tomorrow, where my taxes are waiting to be attended to. So my dulcet tones will likely be more in the distance than in the foreground. That’s the way it looks but don’t quote me. In other words, don’t get your hopes up, trolls, only to have them dashed if I decide to hang around again tomorrow (actually today).
Thanks for the great day gang. And thanks for the great laughs, especially you GB!
Night all. Sweet dreams.
“Randy caught the real Cy Young’s rookie season.”
SAS, sorry…. was ONLY in jest. Really, I have never heard (seen?) a nasty or negative word from you. Even though I am jealous of your warm climate, I ALWAYS look forward to your posts. OK, now I am really going to bed. Will be thinking about Field of Dreams (makes me cry every time I see it) and how I ALMOST got to see both GB and Tin Cup in it.
DiI is what I meant. That was for DadinIowa, I wrote Dil by accident.
DiI
SAS, she’s 85 now. she had a massive heart attack when she was 65 and they were pronouncing her doa on the flight to St. Louis and she rallied. The doctor in the hospital in her town was told that she had died, but, he stuck the paddles to her 6 times before her heart restarted. They usually stop after 3. She’s only got 30% of her heart, but, he walks around the golf course with her dog. The course is just outside her back door. Goes up and down the stairs…no oxygen. Amazing old lady. She refuses to give up. Says she still wants to see the great grandkids graduate from high school. That’s faith. The youngest one is 2 years old.
Interesting. When I type it, it shows up as D, i, and the third letter looks like the roman numeral for the number 1.
When it posts, it shows up as Dil.
Pat M. February 16th, 2011 at 1:43 am
GB…..I always thought it was Walter Johnson
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Randy was retired by then. He did show him that side arm motion though. He told Johnson that one day, the Senators would move to Minnesota and the team would be known far and wide for developing pitchers like him.
Great story about Mother GB7…..As long as you stay away from the sticks and the links she will see her great grand kids graduate HS………no golf GB
Pat, Orville cured me of golf. I couldn’t stand getting sent back to Vietnam.
I think I almost cured him of golf after watching me.
GB…..Well now Randy’s affection for the Twins pitching philosophy makes sense …..Walter Johnson and certainly Calvin Griffith has to be included………Interesting though is how you know all of this ?????
GB,
I am very happy for you and your Mom. My mother died in 1977…at 58. My father died in ’75 along with my husband’s dad…2 weeks apart, and my mother in law died in 81. However our grandparents lived long happy lives and my great grandmother lived to 104.
I keep saying I am older than you are, and now I am sure of it…lol
Pat, it’s in the history books.
I’d never repeat this to Randy, but, I enjoy talking with him. Never takes himself too seriously and has some great stories…mostly about his conversations with these pitchers of our youth. Some of them make you laugh out loud. Last night’s was one of those. Telling a veteran pitcher that his mechanics were a little off and the pitcher telling him that the only reason Randy was there was to speed up the throwing session, because otherwise the guy would have to walk to the plate to pick up the baseball.
Not only that, but, he’s fun to rag on.
SAS February 16th, 2011 at 2:03 am
GB,
I am very happy for you and your Mom. My mother died in 1977…at 58. My father died in ’75 along with my husband’s dad…2 weeks apart, and my mother in law died in 81. However our grandparents lived long happy lives and my great grandmother lived to 104.
I keep saying I am older than you are, and now I am sure of it…lol
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SAS, after a day with my twins, I need a week to rest up. They make me feel young while they’re there. When they leave, I feel 90. Thank God that “Killer’s” there to entertain them.
GB….I agree with you that Tin Cup is a treasure here and unless you know him he’s easily misunderstood…..Nick in SF as well……
GB,
Are you babysitting once a week or something….that’s awesome if tiresome. I am going back East next week to see my little one, who is now 3. I can’t believe it. He also moved to a house while we are here. I can’t wait to see him, and really I am going home for him…not his parents or uncle. However, it will be nice to see them too. I’ll only be gone for a long weekend, but they are all coming out here in March and April.
Pat, I think Randy gets on these tangents like Livan Hernandez and the Twins pitching for entertainment. He’s a funny guy. Of course if he reads this, I’ll just claim that I was misquoted.
SAS, I keep the kids a couple of times a week during the day. They’re beautiful kids. I’ve got them saying Yankees now and Sidney can say Jeter. I have hopes that she doesn’t get contaminated by Braves fans. Her mama does dress her in her Jeter shirt and little pink Yankee cap. I think that’s for my benefit, though. “Killer” still sleeps with them during their naps, so, they’re all happy. Good for you and have a great time with your all too short visit. They grow up way too fast.
GB…….This place is a much better Yankee site because of his attendance…..Has anyone seen CB as of late ????? Maybe I’ll email him because I’m starting to gather info for my over/ under pool………You too GB, I need your input …..Hell you can split the team’s performance with me……I need to play every club and spend 2,000.00 doing it……..Miniumum is 25.00 dollars on your selections…..Input is important
Well, GB,
It’s time to call it a night. I am sure Sidney is adorable in her Yankee gear. Jack wears his Yankee cap all the time. He is so fair…a red head…that he needs to wear a cap.
Have a good night. See you in the ‘morrow.
Pat M.
I haven’t seen CB, and I, too have wondered where he is. I joined the LoHud Fantasy League. If you have any hints, whisper them in my ear.
Have good night.
Good night LoHuders and good morning morning people
I’ll get with you tomorrow, Pat on my choices. Later
GB….I have till the day before opening day….the lines haven’t come out yet…..Later guys
Pecota predicts a 4.56 era & a 2.6 warp for burnett in 2011.
We can avoid this discussion about CC opting out by keeping two things in mind:
1) if he is healthy at the end of the year and pitches anywhere close to what he did last year, he will opt out. After the offer the Yankees made to Lee, and based on their relative ages, he will really have no choice but to get himself a new contract that extends to an older age than what the Yankees would otherwise care to do. CC is a nice guy, but is he going to leave tens of millions of dollars on the table? No way.
2) if he is hurt or has an otherwise bad season, he will not opt out.
So there is no point in discussing this until we see whether he has a good season (and hence choice 1) or a bad season (and hence choice 2).
SAS
I bought a fantasy baseball magazine at the store. Sporting news I think. I know pretty much every big name on every team because I watched Quick Pitch all last season on MLB network. That’s also a good resource and fun to watch because you get highlights from every game played that day. Luckily our draft is after my spring break so ill be able to take the time to go over whoever I might want. Though with my luck I won’t get anyone on my list.
Also, Good Morning, Morning people! I am up a lot earlier today because I didn’t pick out my clothes or make my lunch for today in advance so now I have to work on that before I can go to work.
Let’s keep in mind that systems like Petcoa fail when differences between seasons are caused by unpredictable events, like injury or psychological issues. It is a statistical system that can predict based on past performance, but unpredictable events (in the past or future) make it fail. So if Burnett comes back with a good psyche and receives some high quality coaching he can obviously do a lot better than predicted (but he can also do a lot worse!).
Good morning, morning people.
Good morning tyanksfan36.
Buenos Dias Personas.
OK, new day. Has CC opted out yet?
Good morning everyone.
Tyanks, when is your next visit to spring training? Looking forward to some more pictures
JCPD-
No but I heard he slept at a Holiday Inn last night.
So he’ll make the right decision whatever he does.
How are things going ?
Has CC opted out yet?
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JCPD,
I sure hope not. What would we talk about all day
Hope the job is going well.
I’m good MTU, getting ready to head in to work to get the place open for business. Probably heading to Cooperstown tomorrow for my annual get ready for the season visit.
Fran, I’m doing OK, things are getting a little easier, yet at the same time getting harder as the more I learn, the more they expect.
JCPD-
I don’t know about you being good but I’m glad things are going well.
I’m heading off to Tucson Thurs. for a few days to do some hiking down there.
Have a good day. I’ll catch you when I return.
Have a safe trip MTU, enjoy!!
JCPD-
Thanks. You too.
Fran
I won’t make it up there again until sunday but everyone should be there that day so I should get a lot of pictures. I would go saturday but I’m going to Rays fanfest with my friends.
MTU
Speaking of the Rays… Our favorite manager Joe has been rocking some new shades for Spring Training.
TY-
Don’t forget to give him his Boone’s farm, and be sure to “salute” him for me.
Wish him my worst.
tyanks, you have a busy weekend. Should be fun.
MTU, sounds like you have a busy weekend too. Have fun.
Fran-
Thanks. I’m looking forward to it. Never been to these spots.
A hiking buddy of mine moved there. He’s got it all scoped out.
MTU, looking forward to the pictures as always
Have to get ready to leave for an appointment.
Catch you all later.
Fran
Yes, its going to be a busy baseball filled weekend which in my opinion is the best kind of weekend to have. I am contemplating wearing my 2009 WS champions shirt or just a USF one to the fanfest. I wanted to wear my Boston Sucks shirt but my mom won’t let me since I’m bringing my little cousins.
Fran-
Have a great day !
When I got in the car for my drive to work this morning, Mike & Mike were saying something about Teixiera to St. Louis for Pujols??? Buster Olney shot that down immediately, but, is that rumor spreading, or just idle speculation for the sake of conversation?
Another thing…. I’m still not sure why dog shows are on the sprorts pages. Can anyone help me with that?
Just speculation and talk shows trying to bring the Yankees into it….I think he’s going to become a free agent and re-sign win the Cardinals as Holliday did. I think the Cards will pay up but not until they have to….and until they know the actual market and what other teams are willing to pay.
Blake-
I hear what you’re saying but that’s a dangerous game of chicken IMO.
They have maximum control of the situation right now.
Once Pujols hits FA anything can happen.
If they want him I think they should have locked him up now.
MTU,
yea but if he’s not giving them a discount and he wants to stay in St. Louis (which everyhing points towards that being the case) then I see little incentive to giving him 10/275-300 now. What if he gets hurt in 2011? What if no other team is willing to meet those demands either? They could always match or top the highest bid in free agency and then they know that they are actually paying market value at least. They are bidding against themselves right now…..
Blake-
Here’s what I mean. Check it out.
taken from MLBTR :
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....ujols.html
If Albert and his agent are standing on 10 years and 275 million and aren’t budging then the Cardinals would be risking a lot by agreeing to that with a full season to go before that deal kicks in and in not knowing if anyone else would have even gone there IMO.
Blake-
By waiting they lose control of the situation.
See the analysis above @ 6:49.
It isn’t the slightest bit far-fetched.
Blake-
I don’t think Albert should give St. Louis any discount.
This is his last big payday. He’s earned it, and likely will continue to do so for the forseeable future.
If the Cards don’t think so I guess that’s their right.
MTU,
yea I read that but if the Cards believe that all things being equal that he wants to stay in St Louis then they could just match any offer that’s given this winter. If he’s not giving them a discount now then to me I think you’re better off seeing where the market goes than caving now and giving him Arod money……what if nobody else went beyond 7 or 8 years?
Blake-
The Cards might be risking a lot by not going all in.
It depends on your POV.
Remember. This is AP.
MTU,
he doesn’t have to given them a discount but my point is why make the deal a year earlier if he’s not? They can still sign him as a free agent…..Im just saying I wouldn’t give him nearly 300 million until I knew I had to.
Blake-
They’re playing with fire.
How do we know his feathers aren’t ruffled by all this ?
Also, maybe he wants to be on a perennial contender, or maybe desires a change of scenery ?
By not acting the Cards might risk bringing these things into play as
well.
Once he hits FA anything can happen is all I’m saying.
The odds of resigning him change for the worse IMO.
DadinIowa February 16th, 2011 at 1:34 am
Pat M……. we have had a LOT of jokes of the day on the blog today. PLEASE…. don’t get Erica started again….. please??????
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Hey Mister-
If you are going to insult me, be a man and do it when I am awake
Good morning, morning people
MTU,
Let’s say the Cards meet his demands and extend him to a 10 year and 275+ million dollar contract which starts in 2012 and then Albert goes out and suffers a career altering injury in 2011. The Yankees could absorb that……the Cardinals would have a much harder time doing so.
Morning Madam CPA.
JCPD -
Heading for Cooperstown, where all the greats reside. Good time of year to visit, you’ll have the place to yourself. Get some dark sunglasses, put them on, and you can bring Dakota in with you.
Blake-
Tough luck for the Cards.
You want the best player in baseball to stay with you ?
You also have to find the wherewithal and the cajones.
If they can’t stand the heat then they need to get out of the Kitchen.
I hope they get lucky. He belongs in St. L
Sometimes a team can be too clever by half.
blake -
If I were the Cards, I’d want a protection clause that states, if Albert was unable to play, due to a career ending accident or illness, they could opt out with a set buyout.
MTU -
I don’t think the Cards could survive losing both Albert, and the money.
Good morning MTU
Reminder-
Nick Swisher will be on Better With You tonight
Al-
That’s why they pay these guys the big bucks to solve these kinds of problems.
They’re playing with fire IMO.
I actually was about 10 minutes away from Legends Field yesterday, but thought the place might be under lock and key so I didn’t go over
Erin-
DVR is set!
Meanwhile, I am on the verge of an epic DVR meltdown. I failed to complete my DVR for last week leaving 4 shows remaining. And with a few special things that caught my eye so far this week, I am already at 53% full
MTU -
I’ve said this before, but, I’d like MLB to prohibit contracts longer than 3 years in length. This would make the players be in a position where they were almost always playing for their next contract, and I believe the teams would benefit from better performances from the players, and less likely to get hurt by contracts that could hurt them financially.
Man. Watson just smoked the field last night on Jeopardy.
Erica-I think you should take a day off work and have a TV day.
Gary -
The field is always open. You can walk in and go anywhere, even on the field, unless their working on it, and no one will bother you.
I just read the AJ post, I guess the bottom line is who knows? Everyone has the right words including AJ, but it one of those things where actions will speak louder than words. I think the quick early indication will be his control. If he doesn’t throw strikes and starts walking guys again it will be a quick read on if he has corrected any issues.
MTU -
That’s because it wasn’t facing you, old great one.
Al-
With “Bud big Sellout” around I can’t see much changing.
This team is going to surprise may folks, and by seasons end, we shall have the last laugh.
Al I thought so, but I was pressed for time also as I was on my way to Orlando. It’s only about an hour and half from where I live, but I never seem to get up there.
Al-
I wouldn’t have lasted a nanosecond.
MTU -
Time to get Bud out, was the day he got put into the job, he sucks as commish.
Al-
Could well do.
MTU -
Oh well, I had the old part right.
Al-
He’s a one-dimensional lackey.
Not a creative bone in his body. Nor a drop of class.
Gary -
I was raised in NJ, and never went to see the Statue of Liberty, so it just goes to show you, people travel long distances to see something in our back yard, but, sometimes when we’re close, we just ignore it.
Al-
Yup. Score that one for you.
MTU -
See, ther’s another reason for me to not like him, he’s a Lackey.
Al-
Reminds me of a line from the movie “Midnight Cowboy”.
Q: Do you you know where the SOL is ?
A: Yeah, It’s out in the park taking a leak.
MTU -
Got to get ready to get out of here, today the babies go to the groomer.
Al-
And just like the other Lackey he lacks luster.
Catch you all later.
Al-
Understand. “Les petit infants” do need their care.
Have a good day.
The ideal scenario is to see Pujols and his agent suspend negotiations through the 2011 season but eventually re-sign long term with St. Louis.
This could prompt Adrian Gonzalez and his agent to re-think signing with Boston beyond 2011 when the season starts and wait to see what Pujols gets.
As it stands now, Gonzalez was ready to sign for less than Teixeira money thus helping Boston with luxury tax by waiting until the start of the new season.
At the same time Boston has a strategy in place by going easy with Gonzalez in ST to be sure of his shoulder surgery. They could say that they can’t bump up the supposed offer of $154M until they’re sure that he’s 100% healthy.
“I’ve said this before, but, I’d like MLB to prohibit contracts longer than 3 years in length”
How exactly would they do that?
New thread =====>
mark it down..Martin’s knee will be a problem all year
Love the pictures from Tampa. Spring is around the corner and we need it after a horrible winter in the Northeast.
Erica: I was hoping you would read the post. Of course, I was kidding. My kids groan when I tell corny jokes too !