The bullpen comes to life
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 15, 2011 
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Stretch is over and the real work has finally started.
The first group of pitchers has taken its place in the bullpen: Freddy Garcia on the first mound, Bartolo Colon on the second, Sergio Mitre on the third and CC Sabathia on the end. These are the early sessions, mostly knocking the rust off.
In the cages, a few pitchers are bunting.
In the small, two-mound bullpen, Tony Pena is beginning to work with the catchers. Jorge Posada is in there too, kind of playing the part of coach for the young guys.
YankeesPR Freddy Garcia (L) and Bartolo Colon (R) are throwing in the bullpen at GMS Field. http://twitpic.com/405j6h
BloggingBombers Mariano Rivera has not arrived at Yankees camp yet, though Brian Cashman said he should be here “sometime today.”
pat,
I would love to see one of them really work out and be that 3 or 4 pitcher we need.
Looks like Bartolo still short-arms the ball like he always has…
One positive for him if he would make the Yankees…he wouldn’t have to face ARod.
I’m gonna go ahead and make a prediction: Arod has a monster year this year.
Ever since the centaur thing he’s really grown on me
Watch, somebody will try to make a story out of Mariano coming “late”.
I think Granderson’s going to have a big year…
Joe from LI -
You could make book on it.
logical 4 and 5 starter Garcia and Nova, providing health isn’t an issue.
“I for one try to ignore the negatitivity, because of my faith in the Yankees as a team, and as a great organization. I’d love the Yankees to win a WS every year, but, I realize that’s not likely to happen, still I’ll believe they remain winners, even without the WS title.”
I am so with you Big Al!
That picture of Bartolo does look like he took off some weight. Good for him.
I’m telling you – look out for Detroit this year.
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Yeah I’m looking for them to finish in 3rd place.
Erin-
In any present or future Sumo wrestling competition between CC and Bartolo let me just say this, expect Bartolo to lose every time.
Just a gut feel as to a team that might surprise Patrick, no one knows what’s going to happen. That’s all. I like their pitching and team. I also like Oakland and Milwaukee to do well.
I’m telling you – look out for Detroit this year.
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Yeah I’m looking for them to finish in 3rd place.
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Maybe 2nd, but out of the playoffs.
It is my joy and my privilege to be a Yankee fan. Everything else after that is gravy.
To paraphrase one of the best, I thank the dear Lord for making me a Yankee fan.
BloggingBombers Mariano Rivera has not arrived at Yankees camp yet, though Brian Cashman said he should be here “sometime today.”
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In other words “He can come and go as he pleases, we all know he’ll be ready when the bell rings”
# Joe from Long Island February 15th, 2011 at 11:52 am
Watch, somebody will try to make a story out of Mariano coming “late”.
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jonheyman: Mariano holding out of spring training rumor has it it isn’t happy with the contract he signed.
Full story on SI soon.
I figured let me give Heyman a head start and basically do the frame work for him
Jimmy Johnson used to say, “I treat every player the same……..different”.
He once cut Curven Richards for falling asleep during a meeting.
When Richards complained to Jimmy that “Emmit Smith falls asleep all the time in meetings”, Jimmy’s reply was, “You aren’t Emmit Smith”!
My point……..Mariano can show up for ST on Opening Day for all I care.
He’s earned the right to create his own rules.
NL Central could be interesting. Money still on St louis. But brewers and the cubs could give them a run for their money. Greinke will have a big yr. Not sure about Marcum.
“My point……..Mariano can show up for ST on Opening Day for all I care.
He’s earned the right to create his own rules.”
More than earned the right!
Joe from Long Island February 15th, 2011 at 11:52 am
Watch, somebody will try to make a story out of Mariano coming ?late?.
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No doubt.
Just a gut feel as to a team that might surprise Patrick, no one knows what’s going to happen. That’s all. I like their pitching and team. I also like Oakland and Milwaukee to do well.
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I agree with you on Oakland and Milwaukee but Detroit is just not a strong team (in my opinion of course). Right now my picks for the playoffs are Boston, New York*, Chicago, Oakland from the AL and Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Colorado, Atlanta* from the NL.
Back to Detroit though. Jackson and Boesch are going to regress, I don’t think their lineup is all that good beyond Miguel Cabrera. Yeah Victor Martinez is good but he’s not going to be a catcher for long.
And look at that rotation, it’s basically Verlander and ? There’s some potential with Scherzer and Porcello but far from a sure thing.
he isn’t*
SJ,
good post in last thread regarding Cashman. I just don’t understand his he’s not a top GM……unless you believe that you really can buy championships and that the Yankees should win every year. The moves he has made organizationally in the last few years are going to pay off big dividends in the future.
I’m sure Mariano has been in touch with the team and has a good reason for reporting late.
Looks nice out in TB. However Temp only says its 45.
I think Posada will actually really enjoy working with the younger catchers in a mentor type roll.
BloggingBombers Rivera asked to report late since his kids are home sick. Nothing serious.
CC’s throwing a bullpen? How’s his body language ?
Is he throwing like a guy who looks like he’ll opt out ? Should they extend him today?
And Mariano’s late?
I knew they should have let him go to Boston!
Mariano is unique in every respect from wearing number 42, to his performance over the years, to his class and grace.
That aside, in general, any good boss knows you strive to treat everyone equally as far as obeying the rules are concerned.
Mariano isn’t at ST yet because he’s off creating another universe (again)
Mariano opted out of his contract?
And CC late to camp?
Mo should be dipped in Purel before reporting because no one needs his kids germs running through the clubhouse.
Can they void Mariano’s contract for being late?
There’s your extra CC money right there.
Then they can give Colon # 42. He’s clearly better than Mo anyway having beat him in that Cy Young race several years back.
Please.
Find me one company where everyone gets treated the same.
A few years ago I got reamed a new one for taking off the Friday before Labor Day (a peak tax time) because a Partner I never do any work for at all decided she COULD have needed me. (she didn’t need me. but she could have).
When I pointed out that everyone else was taking off, I was told that “I was better than them and can do things they can’t and therefore need to be here”
Oh yeah, thats the place I work for.
speaking oakland, Just realized that the Godz is with them. BOLD prediction, The Godz will outproduce Po at DH spot this year.
I also expect a good year out of Manny in Tampa.
speaking oakland, Just realized that the Godz is with them. BOLD prediction, The Godz will outproduce Po at DH spot this year.
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I think it will be closer when you account for Matsui playing half his games in Oakland
Mariano isn?t at ST yet because he?s off creating another universe (again)
Best line all day.
Erica, it’s not too late to get out! how about a life of professional gambler?
Yeah, okie is death for hitters compare to YS, but I am pulling for Godz.
Cashmoney February 15th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Erica, it’s not too late to get out! how about a life of professional gambler?
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I am much better at accounting than gambling
# LGY February 15th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Mariano opted out of his contract?
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Yea it’s just hitting the wire now here’s the latest quote from Cashman
Cash: Ummmm Mo has decided to test the market and we support the decision he’s made. This is a process which is fluid and it can change but right now *exhales*he’s decided to test the market and we have to move along with plan B. We will go with what we have. I was against the Soriano signing and I still am therefore Sori will compete with the other arms we have in the pen. Whoever performs well in ST will be the closer.
Erica in NY – Dear god, you couldn’t be more right!
Perhaps a different view but this is just my favorite story: My old boss used to call me into his office regularly, about 3-5 times a week to show him how to print horizontally instead of vertically. The guy made 250K at my job and ended up moving on to a better paying job where he would be single handedly in charge of developing a component of their HR department. Meanwhile, I am well versed in how to print out paper of all shapes and sizes, in various directions, and I’m still some part time scrub lol.
If anyone here TRULY cares about whether or not Mariano has a good excuse for not being at ST yet, I would strongly suggest you take yourself far too seriously!
Erica – well, if you’re that important, you should be paid accordingly.
I used that kind of comeback to my chair once, a few years ago, when I told him something about how everybody always came looking for me – day and night – to me to help them solve their problems. He gave me the coldest stare you could imagine.
Six months later I did get a raise, though.
Patrick February 15th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Just a gut feel as to a team that might surprise Patrick, no one knows what’s going to happen. That’s all. I like their pitching and team. I also like Oakland and Milwaukee to do well.
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I agree with you on Oakland and Milwaukee but Detroit is just not a strong team (in my opinion of course). Right now my picks for the playoffs are Boston, New York*, Chicago, Oakland from the AL and Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Colorado, Atlanta* from the NL. Back to Detroit though. Jackson and Boesch are going to regress, I don’t think their lineup is all that good beyond Miguel Cabrera. Yeah Victor Martinez is good but he’s not going to be a catcher for long. And look at that rotation, it’s basically Verlander and ? There’s some potential with Scherzer and Porcello but far from a sure thing.
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Detroit succumbed to injuries last year. I think they have a very good rotation with Verlander, Scherzer, Porcello, Coke (we’ll see), Galarraga and maybe Oliver. Their bullpen looks pretty strong as well with Zumaya, Benoit, Schlereth, etc. Cabrera, Martinez, Ordonez, Jackson, Inge….not bad if they stay healthy,
If Cashman was replaced what would those who think he is not a top notch GM have to complain about everyday?
Shame Spencer-
Portrait vs Landscape is very important! Don’t sell yourself short.
Erica, go into teaching.
Good pay, good benefits, summers off, wiffle ball….
It a sweet gig, really.
“If Cashman was replaced what would those who think he is not a top notch GM have to complain about everyday?”
Cashman’s replacement, no doubt.
Joe from LI-
They do compensate me. And raise and bonus me annually.
Actually, it’s a fallacy that you treat everybody the same.
Do you think the janitor at Bershire Hathaway gets treated the same as Warren Buffet?
Do you think the Yankees treat Sergio Mitre and Eduardo Nunez the same way they treat Mariano Rivera and Derek Jeter.
Importance to the company and tenure factor into how people are treated in just about any successful company.
Guys like Rivera have earned the right to do it their way. That’s why Mariano tells the staff, and not the other way around, how much he is willing to pitch each Spring and when to schedule his bullpens and why he doesn’t do Spring road trips. He’s built that trust over the years and nobody on the team has a problem with it.
To be a successful company, or team, it’s about trusting your valued employees and giving them the freedom to perform at the best of their abilities.
well, Erica, if you hate your job then prolly it’s time to move on. I have quite a few friends in the accounting field (my background as well), some love it (dunno how), some absolutely hated it. A couple of them went to non profit sector are quite happy now.
File this under pathetic.
The college where I worked had undergone some serious budget cuts but I got a raise that year anyway. I offered to give it back to help the organization. The offer was sincere. So was the rejection of my offer.
Tom in N.J. February 15th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Erica, go into teaching.
Good pay, good benefits, summers off, wiffle ball….
It a sweet gig, really.
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Funny story about that.
One of the partners just recently decided I was a great teacher and he wanted me to take a staff person under my wing and “teach him”. The guy told that partner and the managing partner that I was a great teacher and he is learning a lot from me.
So one day two or three weeks ago I was chatting with someone when the Managing Partner came up to me and said “I think you should be a teacher”. I said “You’re right. Its been nice working with you. I am going to be a teacher now”
Do you think the janitor at Bershire Hathaway gets treated the same as Warren Buffet?
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no SJ, but the, if that janitor bought some A share back in the 70s he is prolly there to be in approximity of Buffet. which begs the greater question, r all men born equal?
Cashmoney February 15th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
well, Erica, if you hate your job then prolly it’s time to move on. I have quite a few friends in the accounting field (my background as well), some love it (dunno how), some absolutely hated it. A couple of them went to non profit sector are quite happy now.
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I hate my job. But I like my paycheck.
Guys like Mariano and Jeter have also earned the trust and respect of their teammates, coaching staff, and ownership, over a long time. That counts for a lot.
If anyone else contributes and performs like Mariano and Jeter, I have no doubt they will get the same courtesies/treatment. The Yankees would love to have a team full of guys like those two.
# LGY February 15th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
If Cashman was replaced what would those who think he is not a top notch GM have to complain about everyday?
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The new GM
I hate my job. But I like my paycheck.
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this might sound like a cliche. But if you hate it, then look for something u have better passion for and see there is a possibility of to it while taking into consideration in maintaining a reasonable lifestyle. You will be happier.
“When I pointed out that everyone else was taking off, I was told that “I was better than them and can do things they can’t and therefore need to be here”
Oh yeah, thats the place I work for.”
Sounds like the Army.
Thanks Erica, it certainly helped me retain my s&%*$y job. One day, I hope to be just like my old boss. Aspiration kids. Thats what life is all about.
Detroit succumbed to injuries last year. I think they have a very good rotation with Verlander, Scherzer, Porcello, Coke (we’ll see), Galarraga and maybe Oliver. Their bullpen looks pretty strong as well with Zumaya, Benoit, Schlereth, etc. Cabrera, Martinez, Ordonez, Jackson, Inge….not bad if they stay healthy,
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They also weren’t that good last year, injuries or no. Scherzer, Porcello and Coke are major question marks (Coke even more so than the first two). Galarraga is no longer on the Tigers, he’s with Arizona I think.
Their bullpen does look good but it kind of depends on Zumaya staying healthy which is never a guarantee.
The lineup is average at best. Cabrera is a stud and Martinez is solid but the rest are pretty average in my opinion.
I could see Detroit competing if Scherzer and Porcello really step up because I don’t think their lineup can carry them.
Rivera asked to report late because his kids were all sick – that according to Mark Feinsand.
Erica,
http://chronicle.com/jobs/0000667062-01
Joe, agree with what you said plus you never hear of Mariano or Derek “abusing their seniority”.
SJ44 it’s preposterous to compare the janitor and the CEO. Clearly that was not my point. Every company has a boss or management and there are different positions and requirements for each position and a myriad of contractual and other realities that come into play.
The point is that generally in an environment where you have numerous employees it is much more desirable to treat them equally. Not to do so breeds resentment and a feeling that the workplace environment is not a fair one. This does not lead to a happy, productive company.
“Scherzer, Porcello and Coke are major question marks”
Is Scherzer anymore of a question mark than Hughes?
# LGY February 15th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
If Cashman was replaced what would those who think he is not a top notch GM have to complain about everyday?
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I assure you it would only be a matter of weeks before the idiots who think Cashman needs to go find something about the new GM that they don’t like and start saying “why the heck did the Yankees ever get rid of Cashman in the first place.”
Mell February 15th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
“Scherzer, Porcello and Coke are major question marks”
Is Scherzer anymore of a question mark than Hughes?
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There’s only one question of importance around Max Scherzer – why the hell did Arizona trade him for Edwin friggin Jackson?
Tom in N.J. February 15th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Erica,
http://chronicle.com/jobs/0000667062-01
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Interesting.
But I just reminded myself of the time I was at a client and walked past a bookkeeper who decided to spend the afternoon on monster.com finding a new job.
“this might sound like a cliche. But if you hate it, then look for something u have better passion for and see there is a possibility of to it while taking into consideration in maintaining a reasonable lifestyle. You will be happier.”
Absolutely thought the same thing. I definitely walked that walk. If a job got to a point that I hated it or hated going there, I left. Granted I left for another job. Until the last time.
Patrick, injuries always play a role. I always try to pick a couple of teams that are under the radar and could over-perform; it’s a gut feel more than anything and not important. This year I’m picking Oakland, Detroit and Milwaukee. I have no clue what they will do.
“Is Scherzer anymore of a question mark than Hughes?”
No they both should be fine but the rest of their rotation is as questionable if not moreso than the Yanks is.
“There’s only one question of importance around Max Scherzer – why the hell did Arizona trade him for Edwin friggin Jackson?”
In fairness, is was Jackson and Kennedy with the Tigers also getting Schlereth, but your question remains a valid one.
I don’t think the Wild Card winner will come out of the AL East this year.
I think the teams in the East are just too good and will beat the snot out of eachother while a team from the central will get to pick up a lot of wins against the Royals and Indians.
I don’t like any of the teams in the West – in fact I think it has a chance to be the weakest division in baseball.
I think the Angels will easily win that division but have no faith in either Texas’s rotation or Oakland’s lineup to put up that much of a fight this year.
Punch line – Mariano is not an abuser. Why the need for ad nauseum lecturing on how an organization should treat its employees? I think we all know the difference between theory and reality.
Next.
Are you talking to me Trisha?
Mell February 15th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
“There’s only one question of importance around Max Scherzer – why the hell did Arizona trade him for Edwin friggin Jackson?”
In fairness, is was Jackson and Kennedy with the Tigers also getting Schlereth, but your question remains a valid one.
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It was a tremendous move for Dombrowski. He unloaded a guy who had put together a half season of success in a five year career for an exceptionally talented pitcher with top of the rotation stuff and 6 years of team control and also moved a back of the rotation prospect for a solid LHRP also making no money.
Mell -
Basically unless Scherzer’s arm literally falls off like Brian Anderson’s did and Ian Kennedy goes on to become a stud – that move right there was reason enough for Arizona to fire their GM.
WC – yes.
Hector Noesi was also allowed to report late – he’s having Visa issues…you know if these guys would just pay their credit card bills on time they could get to work….
Chip:
We agree on the Scherzer thing.
So Rivera is Warren Buffett and Noesi is the janitor, right?
The Griffey Jr./Mariners relationship intrigues me.
He was beloved there and chose to go away, was welcomed back with open arms and walked away in the middle of a season without so much as a see you later and now he’s being brought back as a “special consultant” to the team.
The phrase “I just can’t quit you” seems to apply.
Chip – hardy har har!! I love when the blog is full of bad jokes.. you guys hear the one about the guy that walked into a bar? Ouch.
Trisha – why the comment about “Mariano is not an abuser”? Did you see what I wrote above? Here let me post it for you again.
West Coast Yankee Fan February 15th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
“Mariano is unique in every respect from wearing number 42, to his performance over the years, to his class and grace”.
As far as my comments about employers and employees, if you notice above, more than a few other bloggers commented and I was responding. It’s called a discussion.
Scherzer was traded because of injury concerns and a potential move to the bullpen.
So Rivera is Warren Buffett and Noesi is the janitor, right?
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I wouldn’t say Janitor. . ..more like mail room clerk . .
I don’t think the Wild Card winner will come out of the AL East this year.
I think the teams in the East are just too good and will beat the snot out of eachother while a team from the central will get to pick up a lot of wins against the Royals and Indians.
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This doesn’t add up. Look at when the wild card has come from anywhere other than the East, it requires those teams to be VERY GOOD and win 94+ games. The Wild Card will come from the East as long as 2 good teams live in the east. The ‘beat each other up’ theory doesn’t hold water. By that measure the Twins, White Sox, and Tigers will ‘beat each other up’ but they are also worse teams than the Red Sox, Yankees, and Rays so when they beat each other up they all end up with 85-91 wins.
Regardless of how much they beat each other up 2 of the Red Sox, Yankees, and Rays will win 92+ games and get the wild card. The only way this doesn’t happen is if the AL east teams get ravaged by injury.
With professional sports teams, nobody is treated the same.
Veterans have standing and to be an effective and close team, that has to be the case.
Younger players are always mentored better when there is separation between themselves and the veterans. Sort of a, “this is what you can be someday” type of thing.
In fact, teams that give rookies too much standing or say have a much greater chance of fracturing than teams that have a clear line of demarcation between veterans and rookies/younger players.
That’s the fundamental difference between the pros and high school and college.
At the professional level, Jimmy Johnson is correct when he states that you treat everyone the same……differently.
Shame Spencer February 15th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Chip – hardy har har!! I love when the blog is full of bad jokes.. you guys hear the one about the guy that walked into a bar? Ouch.
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Did you read about the chef who was arrested yesterday?
Cops caught him beating an egg.
Ooh- its bad joke time??!?!?!
Two peanuts were walking in an alley. One was assaulted
Jerkface February 15th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
I don’t think the Wild Card winner will come out of the AL East this year.
I think the teams in the East are just too good and will beat the snot out of eachother while a team from the central will get to pick up a lot of wins against the Royals and Indians.
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This doesn’t add up. Look at when the wild card has come from anywhere other than the East, it requires those teams to be VERY GOOD and win 94+ games. The Wild Card will come from the East as long as 2 good teams live in the east. The ‘beat each other up’ theory doesn’t hold water. By that measure the Twins, White Sox, and Tigers will ‘beat each other up’ but they are also worse teams than the Red Sox, Yankees, and Rays so when they beat each other up they all end up with 85-91 wins.
Regardless of how much they beat each other up 2 of the Red Sox, Yankees, and Rays will win 92+ games and get the wild card. The only way this doesn’t happen is if the AL east teams get ravaged by injury.
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Yes but in addition to the AL East getting stronger I believe the gap has closed between the Yankees and Red Sox and the top teams in the other divisions.
Before, the Yankees and Red Sox or Tampa could count on beating up on not only the Orioles and Jays but also on being significantly better than other teams across the AL – now I think there’s less of a gap between them and say the Angles, Tigers, White Sox and Twins and that coupled with improved teams in Baltimore and Toronto will make it much harder for two teams to come from the East.
Chip – your jokes are the only thing worse than some of your trade proposals.
@priyadesai: CC Addressing media. Says he wants to be a Yankee and only a Yankee. Only team he can see himself playing for
Hopefully the panic can be put to bed now
SJ44 February 15th, 2011 at 11:23 am
“I guess the troll doesn’t want to discuss CC’s opt out anymore. Not surprising since it’s a non-story in the grand scheme.
I won’t hold my breath waiting for the troll to apologize for calling me a liar.
I’ll just ignore his psycho ramblings from hereon out.”
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Why would I apologize? You are a liar.
I’m still waiting for that “easy-to-find” quote/link that doesn’t exist.
As Vineyard said, you’re taking the coward’s way out with the “go look for it” stuff. Why would I waste my time looking for something that doesn’t exist?
t Kepner.
Yanks instructor David Wells has the interlocking “SD” tattooed just above his left wrist. Padre for life
SJ44 February 15th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
With professional sports teams, nobody is treated the same.
Veterans have standing and to be an effective and close team, that has to be the case.
Younger players are always mentored better when there is separation between themselves and the veterans. Sort of a, “this is what you can be someday” type of thing.
In fact, teams that give rookies too much standing or say have a much greater chance of fracturing than teams that have a clear line of demarcation between veterans and rookies/younger players.
That’s the fundamental difference between the pros and high school and college.
At the professional level, Jimmy Johnson is correct when he states that you treat everyone the same……differently.
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And for the most part the players accept that.
There are some instances where it does cause problems. For example Torre’s treatment of guys like Lofton and even Alex because of his loyalty to Bernie and Derek were stress points for the team. But I don’t think there’s anyone who would think twice about Girardi allowing Mo to report late because his kid is sick.
Before, the Yankees and Red Sox or Tampa could count on beating up on not only the Orioles and Jays but also on being significantly better than other teams across the AL – now I think there’s less of a gap between them and say the Angles, Tigers, White Sox and Twins and that coupled with improved teams in Baltimore and Toronto will make it much harder for two teams to come from the East.
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The Red Sox and Yankees are still too good though. If you look at projection systems the other teams aren’t as close as you think, and even going by talent they aren’t as close as you think.
lmao @ YNM.
someone else already found and posted it. then laughed at you
You have to think that Bartolo is praying that he doesn’t have to face the hitting group that A-Rod is in, at least not right away……
Joe from Long Island February 15th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Chip – your jokes are the only thing worse than some of your trade proposals.
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You only say that because you haven’t heard me sing.
How did Toronto improve again?
LaRussa blaming the union for Pujols deal not getting done or the Cards could pay him and then there would be no blame needed.
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports......ols-alone/
Jerkface February 15th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Before, the Yankees and Red Sox or Tampa could count on beating up on not only the Orioles and Jays but also on being significantly better than other teams across the AL – now I think there’s less of a gap between them and say the Angles, Tigers, White Sox and Twins and that coupled with improved teams in Baltimore and Toronto will make it much harder for two teams to come from the East.
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The Red Sox and Yankees are still too good though. If you look at projection systems the other teams aren’t as close as you think, and even going by talent they aren’t as close as you think.
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I’ve been on this blog for a couple of years now – do you really think I’m going to look at some projection system and change my opinion because a computer model says I should??? Come on man – that’s like expecting Brett Gardner to become a power hitter or Jorge Posada to steal 50 bases.
lmao @ YNM.
someone else already found and posted it. then laughed at you
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Good… Let’s see it.
I guess you didn’t see the link Tom posted with quotes from CC’s agents stating the opt out was going to be in any deal he signed.
It’s probably in the last thread.
I’m not a liar but, you have certainly shown to be a moron.
Happy trolling moron.
Where does the one legged waitress work? …..IHOP.
Jerk, u forgot the X factor. We have to play the Mets six times this season. Dic key can befuddle,Ollie can dazzle! Jose can jive u to death. Those factors combined can exact an inevitable heavy toll on the NYY spiritually and physically that may situated them into a prolong slump.
Pat M,
Facing ARod could end Bartolo’s Yankee career very quickly
Jerkface February 15th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
How did Toronto improve again?
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Progression of young pitchers and (though they lost Downs) they greatly improved the back of their pen overall.
“You have to think that Bartolo is praying that he doesn?t have to face the hitting group that A-Rod is in, at least not right away??”
or if he keeps Alex in the park, they’ve found their 5th starter.
Shame Spencer February 15th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Where does the one legged waitress work? …..IHOP.
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Yeah and her name is Ilene.
Toronto lost their 2nd best pitcher, 2nd best hitter, their catcher that hit 20 bombs last year, and their.
Not seeing improvement there.
“Trisha – why the comment about “Mariano is not an abuser”? Did you see what I wrote above? Here let me post it for you again”
Sorry, I was stirring my oatmeal.
Yes, but then you added the following to your post:
“That aside, in general, any good boss knows you strive to treat everyone equally as far as obeying the rules are concerned.”
As SJ has pointed out, there are different rules for different “players” in an organization.
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As an aside, and if anyone can help me with this. Whenever I cook my oatmeal in the microwave, if I substitute milk for water, it explodes! I can’t figure out why. It doesn’t matter if I try to cover it or leave it uncovered. I like the taste so much better with milk.
Drat!
*and their best bullpen arm*
SJ44 – I am not disputing the fact that their are exceptions to that theory depending upon the particular industry and hierarchy that is accepted. The film production industry is the same, the director is in charge on the set and it goes from there.
With the caveats, I still maintain that all things being equal, treating employees the same is good management. Does A-Rod get to fly on a private jet or does he take the team plane? Does he not have to wear a jacket or tie? Does any player on the Yankees get to wear their hair long because of who they are?
“How did Toronto improve again?”
Not really buying that one myself. 85 win team if the sun shines on ‘em right.
“CC Addressing media. Says he wants to be a Yankee and only a Yankee. Only team he can see himself playing for
Hopefully the panic can be put to bed now”
Amazing if ANYONE was thinking otherwise. Okay. I’ve been around these parts long enough.
Amazing.
Progression of young pitchers and (though they lost Downs) they greatly improved the back of their pen overall.
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Meanwhile, their lineup takes a hit, and has a ton of underachievers in it. They traded their 2nd best actual pitcher. I think if you look talent wise its the same as every year. Yankees/Red Sox gonna win 90+ games, rays right behind them, the Central will have 1 team emerge from the dust cloud and the west will once again have a 89-91ish team take the crown.
For those of you who like to cook up something decadant for dinner every so often have I got a meatloaf for you.
I made it this weekend, I don’t know why I did it, but I did.
Equal parts ground beef, veal and pork mixed together with onions and mushrooms that have been sauteed until soft with a little chopped garlic and salt and pepper, then let cool.
Mix in 2 eggs per pound of meat and 2 cups of crumbled bleu cheese. Add 1 cup ketsup and 1/2 cup bread crumbs (if the mixture is too dry, add more ketsup, too wet add more breadcrumbs, not holding add another egg)
lay out the mixture on a sheetpan with parchment paper and form into a loaf shape, about 2 or 3 inches tall.
Take bacon and lay the strips next to eachother perpendicular to the direction of the loaf, rub a little ketsup over the top.
Heat in a 365 oven for 45 minutes then crank up to 400 for 5 minutes. Remove from the oven and let rest for 15 minutes, slice and serve.
Trisha-
It happens to me when I make it with water too.
The trick is to heat it in 20 second intervals and stir it.
What’s even more amazing is that CC said yesterday that he wasn’t going to discuss this again and today some lame ass loser media person asks about it again.
Since I have been on a roll complaining about my job today, I would like to share the experience that just happened 5 minutes ago.
I am at a client and I was in the bathroom.. busy. And the receptionist just came in to the bathroom and knocked on the door to inform me that my boss was on the phone.
Chip – do they have YES in ICU?
Erica thanks. I’ll definitely try it next time.
Chip – you haven’t heard me sing. I still remember the 6th grade music teacher coming over to me, during class singing whatever it was in 6th grade, tapping me on the shoulder, and telling me it was ok to sit down.
“Does A-Rod get to fly on a private jet or does he take the team plane?”
He and everyone else are allowd to do either.
“Does he not have to wear a jacket or tie?”
Derek, Alex and Jorge seem to be the only ones who still travel in jacket and ties. Everyone else just follows the collared shirt rule.
The issue is not about treating everyone the same (they don’t have to), it is about making a company “rule” which is we don’t negotiate until the final year of your contract. they stuck with that rule with Jeter so changing it now would be a very bad precedent. Without a rule or precedent than your words are hollow and if they negotiate with someone else then it means nothing.
I love CC, but I don;t think he will opt out; maybe he asks for an additional year or 2? Maybe he honors the entire contract; but the part of the lee deal I didn’t like was the age at the end of the deal; I don’t want to get too many more year onto CC’s if I can avoid it.
Does sound good Chip, I’d pass on the veal but yum!
Yanks n More must be trying to reload his faulty howitzer…
“I am at a client and I was in the bathroom.. busy. And the receptionist just came in to the bathroom and knocked on the door to inform me that my boss was on the phone”
Erica, that’s probably called “Now my job is done.” God forbid that she had to wait until you came out and interrupt whatever else she was doing!
pat February 15th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
“Does A-Rod get to fly on a private jet or does he take the team plane?” He and everyone else are allowed to do either. “Does he not have to wear a jacket or tie?”
Derek, Alex and Jorge seem to be the only ones who still travel in jacket and ties. Everyone else just follows the collared shirt rule.
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Thanks I didn’t know that. Whatever the rules are, everyone follows them, no matter what their “staure” is. Would that be true?
The Yankees won 95 games with a losing record to the rays and blue jays last year. Winning percentage against certain teams fluctuates year to year, all that matters is the total wins at the end of the year. Don’t see 2 central or west teams beating the yankees/rays/red sox for 92+ wins.
sic – stature
Chip
That’s my “cheeseburger loaf” recipe except I use sharp cheddar instead of blue cheese.
Trisha-
I am more concerned with the blatant “personal space” violation.
I don’t think it was her fault. My boss doesn’t like waiting much…
OK… I actually did go back and find Tom’s offering.
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Brewer’s GM Bob Melvin :
“(Sabathia’s agents) told us the other day they were going to ask for an ’opt-out’ no matter who (the signing team) is,” said Melvin. “So, we were prepared to do an ’opt-out’ also.
http://gazettextra.com/news/20…..a-yankees/
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A few things…
Most obviously, that is NOT the, and I quote, “easy-to-find quote” from CC Sabathia, which SJ insisted was there. It’s not. He’s a liar.
Second, this was a quote from DOUG Melvin, who is the Brewers GM, not “Bob.” Admittedly, not a big deal.
Third, it’s a quote from Doug Melvin AFTER Sabathia signed with the Yankees. It has NOTHING to do with the original discussion or WHEN the “opt-out” became an issue.
Once CASHMAN OFFERED the opt-out, something he admitted AGAIN yesterday that he did (the quotes have been all over this board), I’m sure an opt-out DID become a requirement for any team that signed Sabathia.
Just like when one team offers you $100 million, THAT almost certainly becomes a requirement to any team that wants to sign you.
Still waiting, SJ.
Bleu cheese in meatloaf, eh? Hmmm… as my grandfather always said, ‘molto interesante.’
just a quick fly by as I have been having computer issues and wated to see what was new in lo hud land.
Chip
that sounds like a great recipe, altho I don’t do veal, I can work around that
Veterans with private planes can leave the team after a series with a day off prior to resuming play.
It happens all over baseball these days as players either own their own jets or have fractional ownership interest in a jet from companies like NetJets for example.
WC, how long have you been following this game? Certain players have written into their contracts that they won’t have roommates on the road. I think it was AJ that had round-trip limlousine rides for his wife when he played in Toronto because she didn’t like to fly (something like that.) Perks are written into lots of contracts. That is hardly treating everyone alike!
It’s past time for a change.
I’m glad the media is pressing Sabathia on being clear. He wasn’t earlier. That’s the media’s job, to push, to dig, to get at the truth. If anyone who is a celebrity and makes tens of millions of dollars a year doesn’t like it, that’s tough. Let them go do something else, it goes with the territory. Especially in New York when you play with the Yankees.
West Coast
It seems the Yankees biggest stars don’t get out worked or efforted by anyone so if they ask for a perk here or there no one is going to complain about it because they’ve earned it.
Erica, I think it’s probably the old “boss” syndrome then. I remember how people at work would scurry when certain people would call in. The higher the po$ition of the person calling, the more the scurrying – unless the person was known to be mellow and humanizing.
YankeesNmore – If I understood what point you were trying to make with all this “did he need an opt-out or didn’t he” stuff, I’d bother to look for some quote myself. But really… why is this such a hot topic? Is it Cashman’s apparent ineptitude you’re trying to showcase? Because there are certainly better examples than this.. Is it about the Yankees or are you just obsessed with SJ? I’m sure he has a loving gaze that would melt the hearts of even the coldest men and women, so I can’t even say I blame you if its the latter…
trisha – true pinstriped blue February 15th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
WC, how long have you been following this game? Certain players have written into their contracts that they won’t have roommates on the road. I think it was AJ that had round-trip limlousine rides for his wife when he played in Toronto because she didn’t like to fly (something like that.) Perks are written into lots of contracts. That is hardly treating everyone alike!
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Trisha you have a habit of not reading or ignoring what people write. Again, allow me to re-post what I said above.
West Coast Yankee Fan February 15th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
“……..there are different positions and requirements for each position and a myriad of contractual and other realities that come into play”.
Nice try moron. Now you don’t want to believe the GM of the Brewers. lol
I don’t work for you clown.
He states what has been reported elsewhere. The opt out was going to be in ANY contract CC signed.
If you are too dumb to believe it, I can’t help you.
Also, what I posted this AM was, Cashman putting the opt out on the table gave him a strategic advantage toward landing Sabathia. Which, is the goal of free agency………signing the player.
If you can’t understand it, nobody can help you.
I get that it’s ST and even trolls are still not in regular season shape.
You just gotta do better than you are doing son.
Fat, drunk amd stupid is no way to go through life.
“I’m glad the media is pressing Sabathia on being clear”
They’re a bunch of low-rent harpies. It is NOT their job to badger someone who has said he has nothing more to say on an issue that won’t become relevant for 10 more months or so. But I have clearly picked up that you have a huge sense of entitlement about many things so I’m not surprised that you would applaud badgering as long as you end up satisfied at the end of the day.
You probably were someone who applied Chinese water torture in another life.
BruceBeck4NY So much 4 Posada just being a DH! Check out this drill where he is teaching! Stump Merrill looking on #yankees http://plixi.com/p/77618032
What did the fish say when he swam into the wall?…….Damn.
(I’m still contributing more than trolls, right?)
Shame, my issue is with Cashman. I just took a little time out of my day to point out that SJ, for all his insulting bravado, has exposed himself as a liar.
BELIEVE me, as far as the Yankees are concerned, I’m FAR more concerned with Cashman’s sorry @$$ being fired/replaced than ANYTHING that happens on this or any other message board.
WC, you continue to cherry pick from your posts, most of which have some kind of “that aside” following what you cherry pick but which you totally ignore in bringing what you have said, to my attention.
I don’t know if you are being intentionally pedantic but unless you are 15 years old or so – not sure how old you are – most people here realize how organizations work.
Theory. Reality.
Trisha I have no sense of entitlement, quite the opposite. I believe our dialogue clearly showed I embrace people being treated equally and haven’t a clue how you missed that.
As far as the media is concerned and Sabathia, it was “yesterday” that this first came up and it was CC’s fault for being ambiguous. That is hardly badgering. All one has to do is be very clear and the story goes away. Like Jeter last spring who said what he said about his contract and that he wouldn’t discuss it anymore. Bingo.
As to your personal insults, I don’t care. Feel free.
Now you don’t want to believe the GM of the Brewers.
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When did I say or even hint at that.
I DO believe him… SAID I believe him. OF COURSE an opt-out became a requirement for every team wishing to sign Sabathia… It became a requirement right after Cashman was the first to OFFER it.
“”I’ll give you another prediction,” the second baseball man said. “If he does go to New York, there will be an opt-out clause. I don’t think he would agree to go there if he doesn’t have the ability to opt out fairly early in the deal.”
There have been no indications to this point that the Yankees have offered him an opt-out.”
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3758723
SJ, don’t even bother. We are dealing with someone who is both obssessed and disturbed. No percentage in taking it further.
Shame Spencer February 15th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
What did the fish say when he swam into the wall?…….Damn.
(I’m still contributing more than trolls, right?)
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YES
If you think CC had to be questioned further you have a sense of entitlement. Period.
Cashman isn’t getting fired and you haven’t exposed me as a liar at all. So, you are 0-2.
You on the other hand, have exposed yourself as being a moron.
That’s quite an accomplishment seeing that while we have many of them on here, you have risen to the head of the class in short order.
Well done! You win a cookie!
What you call cherry picking Trisha is what I call proving to you how you ignore what I say and misrepresent it. I did so twice above.
Again, feel free to digress from any semblance of an honest debate by commenting on my age and what I do. Suffice it to say my life and work experience makes me eminently qualified to have an opinion on management and employee relations. I’ll leave it at that.
Love SJ going Dean Wormer all over YNM
Two Eskimos sitting in a kayak were chilly, so they lit a fire in the craft. Unsurprisingly it immediately sank, proving once again that you can’t have your kayak and heat it too.
Trisha – wanting the media to arrive at the truth be it sports or news is not coming from a sense of entitlement. It’s the media’s job. It’s a news story that many Yankee fans are interested in for obvious reasons.
I don’t feel “entitled” to know anything. I “want” to know the truth.
In the case of CC being grilled by the media, I tend to agree with WC, that is their job. If he woulda said all that stuff yesterday, he wouldnt have even been questioned today. But CC knows the ropes. This is NY. Once you leave a crack the flood gates tend to open. Kinda like what Andy did by not shutting the door on a mid-season return. Thats gonna keep being a story whether he’s coming back or not.. just because it was left in flux.
That being said, sayin what you mean and meaning what you say in this industry is pretty difficult. You’re almost always gonna spark a story.
I think this is one of the funniest jokes I ever heard. Luckily there was a version on the internet because my joke telling isn’t the best.
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A burglar broke into a house one night. He shone his flashlight around, looking for valuables, and when he picked up a CD player to place in his sack, a strange, disembodied voice echoed from the dark saying, “Jesus is watching you”.
He nearly jumped out of his skin, clicked his flashlight off and froze. When he heard nothing more after a bit, he shook his head, promised himself a vacation after the next big score, then clicked the light back on and began searching for more valuables.
Just as he pulled the stereo out so he could disconnect the wires, clear as a bell he heard, “Jesus is watching you”. Totally rattled, he shone his light around frantically, looking for the source of the voice.
Finally, in the corner of the room, his flashlight beam came to rest on a parrot. “Did you say that?”, he hissed at the parrot.
“Yes,” the parrot confessed, then squawked, “I’m just trying to warn you.”
The burglar relaxed. “Warn me, huh? Who do you think you are any way?”
“Moses,” replied the bird.
“Moses” the burglar laughed. “What kind of stupid people would name a parrot ‘Moses’?”
The bird promptly answered: “The same kind of people that would name a Rottweiler ‘Jesus’!”
SJ, Cashman has REPEATEDLY said HE was the one who initiated the idea of an opt-out, and he said it again as recently as YESTERDAY.
Are you saying he lied about that?
PS. still waiting for the link to that “Kim Jones interview.”
Stump evokes images of Hawkins,Mass, Balboni, Wade Taylor, Jeff Johnson, Verlarde, Hall, Kelly, Farr, Nokes, Geren… getting swept in by As for the season series… good times…good times. Oh yeah, Hawkins no hitter in Chicago.
Offering him the opt out helped him land the player. Since the opt out was going to be part of any deal, Cashman was able to limit Sabathia’s doubts about NY.
At the same time, he made it tougher for his competitors for his services to come close to matching the money AND offering an opt out since many teams, including some large market teams, couldn’t do both.
In other words, the strategy of offering the opt out WORKED and was the proper strategy to take to secure the player.
Honestly, it would be helpful if you had a basic understanding of the business of baseball.
Instead, you are on a self appointing daily trolling session calling for a change that isn’t going to get made anytime soon no matter now insane you het about it.
YankeesNmore February 15th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
On the previous thread it was mentioned that the quote ‘in question’ was on the YES site with Kim Jones although the one on the ‘gazette’ link says what the the discussion was about. Just sayin.
YankeesNMore,
Is Ruby Tuesday your favorite restaurant by chance?
Why do some players get treated differently? Because they don’t take advantage of their status. And none work harder.
You have to love ST…when a young troll’s thoughts turn to their own fantasies.
Offering him the opt out helped him land the player. Since the opt out was going to be part of any deal, Cashman was able to limit Sabathia’s doubts about NY.
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Again, the “opt-out” wasn’t going to be a part of any deal UNTIL Cashman offered it.
If you believe it WAS required to get Sabathia or that it helped to get Sabathia to commit to New York, that’s fine. You could well be right.
But it was CASHMAN’S idea, not CC’s and not CC’s agent. Personally, I believe 7/161 was going to get it done, whether or not the Angels ever became involved. But that’s neither here nor there.
As far as Cashman’s future is concerned, I would imagine most would have said the same thing about Joe Torre before 2007… Cashman’s contract is up at the end of the year, so I have some hope that will be it.
And if the Yankees are indeed heading for a repeat of their 2008 season (miss the playoff entirely), I believe and sincerely hope Cashman will be gone.
You know, a lot of Ruby Tuesday restaurants are going out of business.
The one by my office just disappeared.
WC – YAWN!!!! You’re work. I think I’ll take the advice of just about all of the posters from the other day and do myself a favor and ignore your ramblings and musings. I think you just like to hear yourself talk. Plus you are totally self-entitled.
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Shame, I don’t agree. I wish CC had just said to them “I told you yesterday that I’m not discussing this any further” and let them hang. The world was going to continue to turn without the earthshaking news that CC wanted to remain a Yankee.
And I’ll take it one further. (And this is not aimed at you. You didn’t question this.) Only a total moron would even have questioned whether or not he wanted to be a Yankee.
I think some peoples’ lives are so empty that they live their lives vicariously and maybe they fancy themselves as part of the Yankee organization or the media, or who knows what. Or maybe they’re wrought with insecurity and need everything just so in order to function.
The guy said he was done talking about it. That should have been enough. I detest meddlesome intrusive people. It’s really the opposite of my style. When someone feels that it’s the appropriate time for me to know something, that’s when I’ll know about it.
There’s always someone in the crowd, though, who needs to be the center of attention or needs to stand out and be the BMOC. So that person is the one who went at CC – whoever it was. Big man.
YankeeNmore – Quotes aside, when you are bidding competitively on a project against other companies, or are a sports team bidding competitively against other teams for a player, or any variation on that theme in any industry, — it’s both normal and good business to offer incentives or added value to set yourself apart and hopefully get what you want. I’m no huge Cashman fan but the Yankees wanted CC, he did what he thought he had to do to get him, I’m sure with management’s approval.
YNM, can u manage a shorter post? Just make it easier to scroll past it.
blake February 15th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
YankeesNMore,
Is Ruby Tuesday your favorite restaurant by chance?
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The Palm, on Ross in downtown Dallas, actually.
Just heard on WFAN that Cervelli caught AJ today and was impressed with how AJ threw.
Cashmoney February 15th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
YNM, can u manage a shorter post? Just make it easier to scroll past it.
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Its good finger exercise
Trisha, you were soundly thrashed intellectually on this issue and it was done politely. Nice doing business with you. Have a great day.
Cashmoney February 15th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
YNM, can u manage a shorter post? Just make it easier to scroll past it.
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How’s that?
LOL I wouldn’t have given Cliff Lee 7 years either, so saying that’s a reason to hand CC in essence an 8 year deal doesn’t wash
“Just heard on WFAN that Cervelli caught AJ today and was impressed with how AJ threw.”
Really like them together. I think Chad had something on the last thread about that also.
Here is my contribution to the stupid joke thread:
The doctor told the patient, “You’re dying.”
The patient replied, “I want a second opinion.”
The doctor then said, “Okay, you’re ugly too.”
Sorry.
Why is Scherzer a question mark?
I don’t see how it is mutually exclusive for Cashman to have offered an opt-out AND for CC to be requesting an opt-out in any contract he signed at the time.
It’s always nice to know that I can come here whenever I need an agita fix, ,and it’s also comforting to know that I’m not alone in some of my thoughts about the dialogue here.
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Erica -
Thank you for the oatmeal/microwave tip. It happens to my husband all the time, but I don’t think he’s going to be happy to find out he has to stand around waiting for a beep every 20 second.
# Erica in NY February 15th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Cashmoney February 15th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
YNM, can u manage a shorter post? Just make it easier to scroll past it.
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Its good finger exercise
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So is digging in your nose, at least you’d get something out of it.
“Trisha, you were soundly thrashed intellectually on this issue ”
You couldn’t get up early enough in the day to soundly thrash me intellectually on anything pal. Take that to the bank. It will earn you a ton of interest – literally and figuratively.
Also -
thanks everyone for the silly jokes!!!!!
LOL
Doreen-
I just hate the oatmeal explosion in the microwave.
Any unnecessary/extraneous cleaning is a bad thing in my world.
The Phillies just took a Schlitter
Ok, so CC loves NY – so then why is he going to opt out? If it’s about the $$, and it is, then it was not about an escape clause in case he hated NY.
A mushroom walks into a bar and the bartender says “We don’t serve your kind here.” and the mushroom says – “Why not? I’m a fungi.”
“Just heard on WFAN that Cervelli caught AJ today and was impressed with how AJ threw.”
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I would imagine there is going to be a LOT of “like the way he threw” when it comes to not only AJ, but also all of Cashman’s Cripples (has anybody trademarked that yet?) this spring.
It means less than nothing. What would you expect Cervelli to say?
Enjoy your fantasy world Trisha. Anytime you lose sight of the flashing red and blue lights and want to debate an issue let me know.
Tom – that was a good one.
“It means less than nothing. What would you expect Cervelli to say?”
The truth, just as he has told it in the past when a pitcher didn’t have his best stuff.
Did you here the one about the Indian who drowned in his own TeePee ?
KPB February 15th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Its good finger exercise
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So is digging in your nose, at least you’d get something out of it.
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As my dad used to say when I was a kid…. “pick a winner”
YankeesNmore February 15th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
blake February 15th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
YankeesNMore,
Is Ruby Tuesday your favorite restaurant by chance?
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The Palm, on Ross in downtown Dallas, actually.
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You can’t even get into a McDonald’s with a shot card and health certificate. You’re an infectious disease.
West Coast Yankee Fan February 15th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Chip – do they have YES in ICU?
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If you only have it once in a while you’re not gonna do any harm…everything in moderation
Kate -
I understand your take on the veal thing – you can probably just go half beef half pork. Veal calves are being treated more humanely than they have in the past though.
I only debate with my equals. Sorry but to do anything less bores me. And I just hate being bored. So if I were you WC, I wouldn’t wait for an invitation from me to debate with you on anything. Ever.
I also detest pedants, so you are definitely blown out of the water in every way, shape and form.
Or this one:
Question: What’s the definition of a “Bed” ?
Answer: It’s the proving grounds for a guided muscle.
MTU February 15th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Did you here the one about the Indian who drowned in his own TeePee ?
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Guy goes to his psychiatrist – Doc, last night I dreamt I was a teepee, night before I dreamt I was a wigwam. Doctor looks at him and says – relax, you’re just two tents.
Trisha, missed that in the last thread. Using my Blackbeery because my computer is shot. Going computer shopping this week.
Why is Scherzer a question mark?
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Scherzer is good, but if you want to know why he would have question marks: Injury history, gets out of whack with his mechanics easily and it kills him, doesn’t have a sustained history of success.
At the time, Sabathia was sitting on about a $40MM difference in offers and was still on the fence about coming to NY.
I think the fear was that Artie M could come in with a 120-125MM offer and CC would have jumped.
Chip-
Cervelli hasn’t met a pitcher he wasn’t excited to catch.
Trisha, how about sticking your head inside the microwave rather than the oatmeal? You are far and away the most obnoxious blogger on this site and one of the reasons why I rarely visit the Lo Hud any more. As the song goes, “You Say It Best When You Say Nothing At All.”
Fran, guardedly hopeful about my laptop. Power supply pack was the latest problem but I manipulated it slightly and the battery recharged. However I don’t know if I’ll be able to deal with the jumping screen, the product of buying a new keyboard at a good price but unfortunately one that doesn’t fit tightly so the screen jumps every time I type!
My dad always used to say that you get what you pay for. My keyboard proves that maxim.
Might actually break down and order one from HP. At least I’ll know that it will fit properly.
The Genius Maker February 15th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
The issue is not about treating everyone the same (they don’t have to), it is about making a company “rule” which is we don’t negotiate until the final year of your contract. they stuck with that rule with Jeter so changing it now would be a very bad precedent. Without a rule or precedent than your words are hollow and if they negotiate with someone else then it means nothing.
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There’s always exceptions to the rule. They supposedly had a rule to not extend young players beyond their arbitration years. Lo and behold, somehow, someway, they did that with Robinson Cano.
Fran -
My husband ok’d the iMac. Gonna go buy it later this week or early next. Yay!
Baseball season has arrived!
SJ is arguing with somebody
and
Trish is ticked off at somebody.
No one knows what it’s like
To be the bad man
To be the sad man
Behind blue eyes
No one knows what it’s like
To be hated
To be fated
“Trisha, how about sticking your head inside the microwave rather than the oatmeal? You are far and away the most obnoxious blogger on this site and one of the reasons why I rarely visit the Lo Hud any more. As the song goes, “You Say It Best When You Say Nothing At All.””
Y-A-W-N!!!!!
I doubt you’ve been missed brucie. See ya now!
Here you go kiddos –
Scranton writers taking a guess at what the AAA bullpen will look like:
http://blogs.thetimes-tribune.com/yankees/?p=7723
Ledger_Yankees Star Ledger
RT @priyadesai: CC Addressing media. Says he wants to be a Yankee and only a Yankee. Only team he can see himself playing for // #nyy
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How long before a couple of idiots call Sabathia a liar?
Erica-
I reread some of your earlier posts about your job.
My inescapable conclusion is that you need a new career.
And before you leave be sure to drop your company cell phone into the toilet, ask your boss to retrieve it with his teeth and proceed to flush.
He’ll never have to wait for you again.
I think you should teach math.
Charles Di-kens walks into a bar and orders a martini. The bartender asks, “Olive or twist?”
MTU February 15th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Erica-
I reread some of your earlier posts about your job.
My inescapable conclusion is that you need a new career
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LOL.. thanks.
“How long before a couple of idiots call Sabathia a liar?”
Happened yesterday.
if you look at that link I posted – the thing I like about the composition of their projected Scranton pen is that nearly everyone in it has some level of ML experience. That could prove very valuable when guys are needed as injury callups. Downside is that none of them are on the 40 man roster and so that does make it tough to have a guy you can stick on the Scranton Shuttle.
And bruceb, to show what a total wipe out you are, and probably a fraud as well, I was MIA for most of the off season. I find it hard to believe that you just happened to show up today.
JSalisburyCSN Phils claim LHP Brian Schlitter from NYY and designated RHP Andrew Carpenter for assingment team announces
Phillies claimed Schlitter
bruceb February 15th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Trisha, how about sticking your head inside the microwave rather than the oatmeal?
***You are far and away the most obnoxious blogger on this site***
and one of the reasons why I rarely visit the Lo Hud any more. As the song goes, “You Say It Best When You Say Nothing At All.”
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Not as long as people like you and that idiot YNM are around.
And before you leave be sure to drop your company cell phone into the toilet, ask your boss to retrieve it with his teeth and proceed to flush.
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MTU
I didn’t know you had such a potty mouth.
Without Schlitter, Colon should be free and clear!
Trisha – While I, a biased party, tend to agree that every baseball player should want/love/and thrive on being a Yankee, I realize it isn’t always the case. Now, I’m not applying this to CC, but some guys must figure ‘Hey, I’ve got my ring, and my money.. why not go to a palce where there’s not a media firestorm every time I bring up x, y, and z.’
Now, again, I’m not saying that this is what CC is thinking, but it certainly is in the realm of possiblity (despite what us die hards would like to believe). In this case, I think by CC not just saying yes or no when asked about the opt-out, you have to know you’re opening a door. Maybe just a crack, maybe not even that much.. maybe you just unlocked the door not planning to go out.. but its still sorta open.
Do I blame him? No. I’d prefer he’d be open about not really knowing than say he’ll refrain from the opt-out and then pull an Arod. The problem with that honesty is you have to be well aware it will stir the pot. Its just that simple. And I’m pretty sure thats why the media treats it as such. In that sense, it is their job. I mean, then they wouldnt be able to make him a villain or a hero later depending on what he does, right?
GB, frightening to think that it was even a question in some minds. I guess there’s a level of fans who only pay attention at the WL at the end of the season and don’t pay attention to much in between. That’s gotta be it.
G. Love February 15th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Without Schlitter, Colon should be free and clear!
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duuuuuude
If Girardi goes with that personal catcher crap this season he needs to be replaced. Consistency would be a good option behind the plate and for the offense as well.
GreenBeret7 February 15th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
bruceb February 15th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Trisha, how about sticking your head inside the microwave rather than the oatmeal?
***You are far and away the most obnoxious blogger on this site***
and one of the reasons why I rarely visit the Lo Hud any more. As the song goes, “You Say It Best When You Say Nothing At All.”
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Not as long as people like you and that idiot YNM are around
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Can’t we all just get along?
Doreen,
Yay for the computer.Can you let me know how you like it? I need to do something really soon
Thanks
Chip – Absolutely not.
bruceb February 15th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Touche !
Vineyard Yankee February 15th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
If Girardi goes with that personal catcher crap this season he needs to be replaced. Consistency would be a good option behind the plate and for the offense as well.
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1. I don’t think Cervelli will be with the team after June 1.
2. There’s nothing wrong with a personal catcher. No catcher is going to be behind the dish for 162 games; so you set up a system where Catcher X works with pitchers ABC and Catcher Y works with pitchers DE so you have built in days off…that’s not to say you can’t mix and match during the season, but at least it gives some consistant pairings for the pitchers to work with.
Shame Spencer February 15th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Chip – Absolutely not.
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I just find all of this fascinating. People with such a harsh reaction to a name on a computer screen that they’re in all likelihood never going to meet.
And about a topic as irrelevant as baseball no less.
There are five year olds who would find this behavior childish.
KPB-
I have been known to take the low road in my travels.
# Vineyard Yankee February 15th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
If Girardi goes with that personal catcher crap this season he needs to be replaced. Consistency would be a good option behind the plate and for the offense as well.
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If consistency is what you’re after…a personal catcher solves this in spades. Guys always working with the same pitchers…
Anybody else seeing a possible multiple-handle poster in here ?
Chip – That’s why I’m always so upset when the trolls are referred to as children here on the blog. Its offensive to children.
Why don’t aliens eat clowns……..Because they taste funny.
a suggestion from Ken Rosenthal:
Yankees get: Albert Pujols
Cards get: Mark Teixeira
The thought being that the only team that can give Pujols the contract he wants is the Yankees but they’re not interested because they’ve got Big Texy.
On the one hand – who wouldn’t want Pujols
On the other hand – I don’t think the Yankees want to have 2 $300 million dollar men on the team going into their late 30s.
Shame, the media LIVES to put people on the cross. They sleep well at night when they can do that.
What CC said yesterday (or didn’t say) was enough for me.
By the way, I am not someone who thinks every player wants to be in pinstripes or wants to be there the rest of their lives if they are in pinstripes. I’ve just allowed my eyes and ears to guide me on this one. Either CC is a great actor, or he loves playing for the Yankees.
Beyond that, I’m more than willing to let him live with his thoughts, whatever they are, and play a good season for the Yankees and then do whatever he feels he wants to do at the end of the season.
What the media has effectively done is to put him in a box and not leave him any room for changing his mind based on things that could happen during the season, either baseball-wise or personally. That is entirely unfair to CC. Let’s hope that their bullsh*t need to pin people against the wall doesn’t have a deleterious affect on CC’s psyche. Perish the thought that he finds his thoughts going in a different direction at some point and then finds he has to defend himself against being called a liar.
There’s a very good reason to back off when someone says “Today is the last day I am going to discuss this.”
Rough seas here today at the ole LoHud…….Must be Cabin Fever syndrome
“Anybody else seeing a possible multiple-handle poster in here ?”
Raises both hands.
Fran -
I will definitely let you know.
Jeers, I was just thinking that.
I am very glad that the oatmeal exploding in the microwave problem has been solved once and for all.
It has plagued Mankind (and Womankind) for way too long now.
At least since the invention of the microwave that is.
And as always, the simplest solution is the best one.
Score one for the good guys.
Shame Spencer February 15th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Chip – That’s why I’m always so upset when the trolls are referred to as children here on the blog. Its offensive to children.
Why don’t aliens eat clowns……..Because they taste funny.
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a young man moves out of his mother’s house for the first time. He ends up moving in with a young woman but assures his mother, a deeply religious woman, that nothing is going on between them. To prove it he has his mother join them for dinner one night. The next day the young woman points out that she can’t find the gravy spoon that they used for dinner – after a few weeks of prodding the young man finally calls his mother to ask if she took it.
“Mom,” he says, “I’m not accusing you of doing anything but since we had you for dinner 4 weeks ago we haven’t found our gravy spoon, did you maybe take it?”
“son” she replies, “I’m not accusing you of doing anything but if you had been sleeping in your own bed these last 4 weeks you would have found the gravy spoon.”
Pat M. February 15th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
Rough seas here today at the ole LoHud…….Must be Cabin Fever syndrome
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I think we need Dr. Phil.
Vineyard, not calling you stupid or anything, but you might want to find out what “Touche!” means before you use it incorrectly again.
Okay, I’m calling you stupid.
Pat M.-
Would you mind if I stopped by to watch your pool being cleaned ?
Chip, I think you ask the same thing every season! Apparently as long as there are trolls who continue to troll here we CANNOT all get along.
I’m just saving you the trouble of asking the same thing again at the beginning of next season!
blake February 15th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
YankeesNMore,
Is Ruby Tuesday your favorite restaurant by chance?
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lol.
And in other news :
ST has started.
Chip:
If it is the Cervelli / Burnett tandem again I just think that is more head game BS. At what point will Burnett stand up and pitch to whomever is behind the dish and just get the job done to the best of his ability. Martin, Posada, Cervelli, Montero or whoever. No more coddling.
FoxSports.com is reporting that CC Sabathia and the New York Yankees have agreed to include an opt-out clause as part of his monstrous seven-year, $161 million contract. Yahoo sports says the opt-out was a key factor in the signing.
Fox Sports’ Ken Rosenthal writes:
Sabathia will receive an opt-out clause after three years, which was a prerequisite for him to sign with any team, not just the Yankees, according to a source. The deal is all cash and will include no deferrals.
Yes, there’s an extra million dollar increase since the last rumored price tag. The opt-out clause is something that may open up the door to yet another big contract down the road for Sabathia:
Such a clause would give Sabathia the chance for another monster payday in free agency at age 31 — and provides him with an escape if he finds the New York experience unappealing.
http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde.....agree.html
“Yankees get: Albert Pujols
Cards get: Mark Teixeira”
There are some baseball writers applauding the genius of this but what’s in it for Tex that he would start packing?
Interview on MadDog radio:
Posada said it wouldn’t surprise him in the least to see Pettitte return to pitch this season, perhaps at the ASB.
Erica-
You’re good at this sort of thing.
Can you help me convince myself why when I’m exhausted I need to get up off this chair and go out for a hike this afternoon ?
Your help would be greatly appreciated. Just a few overwhelming reasons would do.
Thanks in advance.
Vineyard Yankee February 15th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Chip:
If it is the Cervelli / Burnett tandem again I just think that is more head game BS. At what point will Burnett stand up and pitch to whomever is behind the dish and just get the job done to the best of his ability. Martin, Posada, Cervelli, Montero or whoever. No more coddling.
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Since it’s entirely likely that Cervelli’s going to be replaced by Montero by sometime in June I wouldn’t worry about it too much.
Trisha – I think we probably just agree to disagree about the media and their function/boundaries. Intelligent people can do that, thank goodness.
I’m someone who is always changing their mind about the media personally, so I do understand your perspective and agree it isn’t fair to box people in. We don’t have people interrogating our choices every day, and its gotta be tough to have to do that. But the way I see it, its sorta part of the gig here in NY. Its why playing here and being great here is so much more difficult and awe inspiring.
Do I think CC retires a Yankee? Absolutely. Do I think we’ll still be talking about him opting out in September/October? Absolutely. Just the nature of the game. It at least makes for a more interesting debate than ANYTHING involving Cliff Lee. I swear to god, I could do with never hearing that name again on this blog.
Vineyard Yankee February 15th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Chip:
If it is the Cervelli / Burnett tandem again I just think that is more head game BS. At what point will Burnett stand up and pitch to whomever is behind the dish and just get the job done to the best of his ability. Martin, Posada, Cervelli, Montero or whoever. No more coddling.
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Since it’s entirely likely that Cervelli’s going to be replaced by Montero by sometime in June I wouldn’t worry about it too much.
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For what it’s worth though – if AJ Burnett pitches to a 2 ERA with Nick Swisher behind the plate then I’m ok with that too.
Chip February 15th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
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I’m tired of the excuses and the .500 or below W / L. Put up or shut up and earn that big contract AJ.
From Joel Sherman:
Prize-free quiz: Only 1 team has 2 Ps with 100 starts combined over the past 3 years. Name team and the 2 pitchers (answer around noon)
Quiz Answer: CC and Burnett. Reason it interested me is with all doubts about AJ, he has learned in recent yrs how to stay healthy #Yankees
and this:
Okay, I’m calling you stupid.
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Priceless.
MTU-
Last week I sat at my desk in my office for 57 hours between Monday and Friday.
By Thursday the left side of my body actually hurt from sitting.
And that is why you should get up and take a walk
rodg12 February 15th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
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Just no more excuses, black eyes, his wife, punching the door, personal catchers etc. Get the job done.
Chip-
Tex for Pujols: Don’t see that happening as Tex has a full NTC and his wife likes the shopping on 5th Avenue.
8 years/$180M (2009-16)
signed by NY Yankees as a free agent 12/23/08
$5M signing bonus
09:$20M, 10:$20M, 11-16:$22.5M annually
full no-trade clause
Teixeira may purchase 8 of best available Yankees season tickets
Shame -
It’s also why generally speaking, the paychecks are bigger in NY and there is no Yankee discount.
‘On the other hand – I don’t think the Yankees want to have 2 $300 million dollar men on the team going into their late 30s’
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Chip: Pretty damn close with ARod.
Gotta love how the so many in the media think that they are so much more intelligent in making baseball decisions and trades than real baseball people, but, can’t go a year without screwing up awards and HOF voting. They can’t even decide what guidelines to use.
Doreen – SO true. Like I said, I can see both sides of this.. but the media does have a job. Now some of us don’t always agree with the tactics, the approach, or the results of that job, but they do have one and as far as I can tell the only real breath of responsibility they have is to ask questions. (Nothing like oversimplification, huh Chad?)
trisha – true pinstriped blue February 15th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Here is your tip, you don’t like it, scroll past and keep your childish name calling to yourself.
Lot of broken records here today. Same old BS.
Erica-
Thank you. Anything for you. I’ll give it a try.
If I do not return later send help. It just means I fell asleep on the trail and need to be awakened before nightfall in order to avoid frezing to death.
MTU-
Got it!
Gotta love how the so many in the media think that they are so much more intelligent in making baseball decisions and trades than real baseball people, but, can’t go a year without screwing up awards and HOF voting. They can’t even decide what guidelines to use.
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While I do agree most of the media is butts, you’re associating an individual process (coming up with trades/baseball decisions by individual writers) with a group process (coming up with guidelines and agreeing to it for voting). A writer could be smart enough about baseball to suggest worthwhile trades, but be ineffective in a group context because of being outweighed by a majority of idiots.
Chip February 15th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
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Good point, thanks.
Later gang.
Is Pujols 35% better than Teixeira?
‘For what it’s worth though – if AJ Burnett pitches to a 2 ERA with Nick Swisher behind the plate then I’m ok with that too’.
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Whatever it takes to get the job done. Tony Pena, Girardi even Yogi work.
Let’s say Pujols and Teixera would both wave their no trade and a straight up swap of the two players could happen.
After this season Teixera will have 5/115 left on his deal…..If Pujols were traded to the Yanks I’m guessing it would take 10/275-300 to extend him as he would want to beat Alex’s deal and would know the Yankees can afford it.
Albert is clearly the better player but when you compare 5/115 to 10/300 is he that much better? I say no.
Burnett has never made excuses for his pitching. He never asked for a “personal catcher’ and he’s always been up front about his pitching issues. No reason to bring his wife/family life into this. The same can’t be said for other pitchers.
I am very glad that the oatmeal exploding in the microwave problem has been solved once and for all
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I need to be filled in on this one!
I mean this has happened to me many times and my solution is to cook the oatmeal for less time but if there’s another method I wouldn’t mind knowing about it.
“trisha – true pinstriped blue February 15th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Here is your tip, you don’t like it, scroll past and keep your childish name calling to yourself”
This after (incorrectly) saying “Touche!” when someone tells me to stick my head in a microwave and calls me some other choice things?
Here’s YOUR tip. You don’t like it, scroll past and keep your childish name calling to yourself.
And learn the proper use of the word touche.
Vineyard = West Coast. And so it rears it’s ugly head again. Multiple migs.
Fix the oatmeal in a saucepan…like God intended. Is saving 5 minutes that important?
Bronx Jeers-
The trick is to heat the oatmeal in brief 20 second intervals and stir it!
GreenBeret7 February 15th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
Fix the oatmeal in a saucepan…like God intended. Is saving 5 minutes that important?
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Its not a matter of saving time. Cause by the time I clean my microwave any time saved is blown
Its the fact that most oatmeal that comes in yummy flavors is intended to be made in the microwave
Its a three-peat for Erica… YAY!
GB7 -
It’s not the 5 minutes. There’s less to clean up if you cook it in the microwave. So it’s less labor and less time if you include the cleanup. This is major!!
Bronx Jeers -
Erica’s tip was to stir it in 20 second intervals until it’s done.
Maybe somebody should cross pollinate oats with apples or maple trees and save time shopping for yummy flavored oatmeal.
I should get a job thinking up these brilliant ideas to save money and time.