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Tuesday morning notes: Burnett in the bullpen, but not Posada

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Feb 15, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

A.J. Burnett threw his first bullpen this morning. Roughly 30 pitches, all fastballs. It was his first time on a mound since the end of last season.

“You get anxious,” Burnett said. “Especially after last year. You want to come in and be ready to go.”

Cervelli said Burnett looked sharp — “Very good,” Cervelli said — but at this stage, it’s more about knocking off the rust than hitting the corners. Burnett said most of his offseason work with Larry Rothschild focused on his lower half, making sure he didn’t swing open. Ultimately, Burnett said last year’s struggles were a mental issue, and he has to move on.

“Just mentally staying right,” Burnett said. “I think every time we talked last year, the good games, I was there. I was locked in. The bad games, I think mentally I wasn’t there. It’s a matter of staying on top of my game, paying attention to every pitch and doing what I did before last year, which was not letting anything bother me. Not worrying about a thing, going out there one pitch at a time until Skip takes me out. If I do that, I’ll be fine.”

• As a precaution because of his offseason knee surgery, Jorge Posada will not catch a bullpen until next week. He’ll go through the regular catching drills — he’ll squat and said the knee doesn’t bother him right now — but the Yankees want to give him a week before they push him into a bullpen session.

• I’ll have more on Posada later, but he seemed at peace with the idea of being a fulltime designated hitter. He called himself the third-string emergency catcher, then laughed at the idea. He admitted it was hard to hear at first, but now he’s hoping this keeps him healthy enough for 500-plus at-bats. He hasn’t had that many since 2007.

• One non-catcher position player will be in camp today, with Brett Gardner coming to camp to do some work, including batting practice with the catchers. I have to assume this is all part of his rehab from wrist surgery.

• CC Sabathia will throw his first bullpen today. He’ll throw to his likely Opening Day catcher, Russell Martin.

• Brian Schlitter was designated for assignment yesterday, but he’s still in camp and will throw a bullpen today.

• Scheduled bullpen sessions (with catchers):

Group 1
Bartolo Colon  (to Gustavo Molina)
Freddy Garcia (to Francisco Cervelli)
Sergio Mitre (to Jesus Montero)
CC Sabathia (to Russell Martin)

Group 2
Luis Ayala (to Jose Gil)
Boone Logan (to Jesus Montero)
Mark Prior (to Austin Romine)

Group 3
Buddy Carlyle (to Kyle Higashioka)
Robert Fish (to Francisco Cervelli)
Ryan Pope (to Gustavo Molina)
Brian Schlitter (to Jose Gil)

• Hitting groups:

Group 1
Francisco Cervelli
Russell Martin
Gustavo Molina
Jorge Posada
Brett Gardner

Group 2
Jose Gil
Kyle Higashioka
Jesus Montero
Austin Romine

Associated Press photo of Burnett and Cervelli after today’s bullpen

 
 

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111 Responses to “Tuesday morning notes: Burnett in the bullpen, but not Posada”

  1. Jerkface February 15th, 2011 at 10:06 am

    Read an interesting article linked from either here or twitter and it showed that of Top 100 prospects, pitchers bust 75% of the time. Position players less so. It is alot easier to get an all-star type player from a top 100 position player than a pitcher. Catchers were even higher ranked if you individualized it. LHP were the least likely to succeed, then pitchers as a whole, then RHP. And every position player succeeded more often than pitchers with 1st, catcher, and third being the most likely, then various outfield, then middle infield.

    Keep Jesus!

  2. Jerkface February 15th, 2011 at 10:07 am

    Jesus Montero with the Mitre Kiss of Death. :(

  3. Erica in NY February 15th, 2011 at 10:09 am

    Erin-

    I am really excited for Better With You. That show is very funny

  4. West Coast Yankee Fan February 15th, 2011 at 10:11 am

    Joel Sherman tweet – 2 words on rumor Bartolo Colon lost a lot of weight: Fat Chance #Yankees
    2/15/11 6:15 AM

  5. Ys Guy February 15th, 2011 at 10:12 am

    Ys Guy February 15th, 2011 at 10:10 am
    cashman took over full control

    cashman signed cc, tex and aj

    they won the WS

    cashman rebuilt the farm system

    they are ranked in the top 5

    and there are ppl who crusade to have him fired?

    fired, really?

  6. YankeesNmore February 15th, 2011 at 10:13 am

    Quote: “Go back in the YES archives and look for the interview CC did with Kim Jones after he signed. He talks about desiring an opt out wherever he signed.

    My job is not to find links for trolls on here. Find them yourself.”
    ——————————————-
    Translation: I made it up. It does not exist.

  7. Cashmoney February 15th, 2011 at 10:17 am

    Jesus Montero with the Mitre Kiss of Death.
    ———–
    killing… Mitre’s way
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1eOsMc2Fgg

  8. SJ44 February 15th, 2011 at 10:19 am

    Translation….wrong.

    It’s actually not difficult to find. He has said it to Francesa, Kay and Curry in separate interviews. I’ve given you the locales to find it.

    It’s ok if you are too lazy to do it.

    You can go back to trolling for changes that won’t take place. It seems that’s all you can do.

  9. Mell February 15th, 2011 at 10:19 am

    “Joel Sherman tweet – 2 words on rumor Bartolo Colon lost a lot of weight: Fat Chance #Yankees”

    Still never been adequately explained to me why “fat chance” and “slim chance” mean the same thing.

  10. Ys Guy February 15th, 2011 at 10:19 am

    “blake February 15th, 2011 at 9:57 am
    Hopefully Jorge will accept a Varitek type role next season if he still wants to play. He could be valuable in that role if healthy…..of course he could have a great season as a DH and be a good option in 2012 for that as well.”

    /////

    sir, im going to have to ask you not to use that ‘v-word’ when talking about posada, please….

  11. West Coast Yankee Fan February 15th, 2011 at 10:20 am

    Ys I don’t want Cashman fired I just don’t think he’s a top GM. He’s ok. Signing Tex and CC involved handing over a Steinbrenner check. In all fairness he’s made some good moves – and many poor ones. He’s ok in my opinion.

  12. Mike Ri February 15th, 2011 at 10:22 am

    Chad . . Hopefully some video of Montero hitting ??

  13. Erin February 15th, 2011 at 10:23 am

    pcaldera A.J. Burnett felt the high/low he experienced with + without Dave Eiland in ’10 was overstated: ‘I’ve been haywire before I even knew Dave.’

  14. YankeesNmore February 15th, 2011 at 10:23 am

    and there are ppl who crusade to have Cashman fired?

    fired, really?
    ——————————-
    Really!

    Cashman has been the GM of this franchise for 13 seasons, and they’ve won ONE W.S. with a team he built. And now he has turned the team into a $200 million underdog.

  15. Vineyard Yankee February 15th, 2011 at 10:24 am

    Chad:

    Do you know or can you please inquire as to where Rafael DePaula is slotted (level) to play at this year. Thanks

  16. austinmac February 15th, 2011 at 10:24 am

    I am announcing that I am opting out of further CC contract issue discussions. I will not discuss it during the season.

    I feel much better. I recommend it.

  17. Ys Guy February 15th, 2011 at 10:25 am

    wcyf i have no problem with your opinion

    but the ones who want him fired?

    c’mon like hes so bad he shouldnt be allowed to finish this season?

    as a matter of principle, i dont thin the yankees should decide until the season is over, because thats the way everyone else is treated.

    but, fired?

  18. West Coast Yankee Fan February 15th, 2011 at 10:25 am

    FYI – Google video search – select latest or past 24 hours Is an easy and effective way to find video clips.

  19. YankeesNmore February 15th, 2011 at 10:26 am

    Serve it on toast, JS.

    Were it that easy to find, you’d have posted the link long ago. You’re a liar, you made it up (and this isn’t the first time), and you’ve been exposed.

  20. blake February 15th, 2011 at 10:27 am

    Y’s guy,

    Ok I don’t think there is anything wrong with it….varitek is their captain and signed on for a backup advisory role two years in a row because he still wanted to play. If Jorge wanted to do the same Id be fine with that…..and as I said he may flourish as a DH and be an option there next season as well.

  21. West Coast Yankee Fan February 15th, 2011 at 10:28 am

    I agree. No he shouldn’t be fired that’s pretty extreme and it’s not going to happen. Criticizing his performance is legit – calling for him to be fired isn’t.

  22. ac1 February 15th, 2011 at 10:30 am

    I would also argue that pieces Cash put in place between 98′ – 00′ were essential in the 3 titles.

  23. YankeesNmore February 15th, 2011 at 10:32 am

    For those who believe Cashman should NOT be fired while also recognizing that he’s “NOT a top GM,” I have only one question:

    Why shouldn’t the Yankees have a top GM?

  24. Vineyard Yankee February 15th, 2011 at 10:32 am

    YankeesNmore February 15th, 2011 at 10:26 am

    Keep that howitzer locked and loaded, good job.

  25. Chad Jennings February 15th, 2011 at 10:33 am

    When I see some of the minor league guys around here, I’ll ask about DePaula.

    I heard this morning that Alan Horne has been throwing at the minor league complex. I’ll check with Horne himself later today, but one of the other pitchers in the system said Horne’s been making some better-than-expected progress. Seemed like a very positive report.

  26. blake February 15th, 2011 at 10:34 am

    Winning the WS is extremly difficult….that’s why hardly anyone does it back to back anymore. A teams ability to consistently make the postseason is more a reflection of the GM than number of titles and the Yanks have missed it once in nearly two decades…….

  27. Ys Guy February 15th, 2011 at 10:35 am

    blake, i dont want any of veritek and his .230 average the past 5 years rubbing off on jorge. that c is the only thing keeping him in the majors.

  28. YankeesNmore February 15th, 2011 at 10:36 am

    Vineyard Yankee says:
    February 15, 2011 at 10:32 am
    YankeesNmore February 15th, 2011 at 10:26 am

    Keep that howitzer locked and loaded, good job.
    ———————————
    Always & thanks

  29. Vineyard Yankee February 15th, 2011 at 10:36 am

    Let the Cashman minor league prospects mature and see how they pan out before throwing him to the lions. The minor league system used to be nothing and no GM is perfect in the trade market.

  30. West Coast Yankee Fan February 15th, 2011 at 10:37 am

    YNM – they should but it’s less critical with the Yankees due to their payroll. They can afford to make mistakes that other clubs can’t. They pay to leet their superstars like the Core 4, A-Rod, etc. And can fade mistakes like Igawa, etc. How many other clubs could have dealt with a 50 million dollar mistake.

  31. West Coast Yankee Fan February 15th, 2011 at 10:38 am

    Sic – pay to keep

  32. Cashmoney February 15th, 2011 at 10:38 am

    Getting a man understanding the importance of building a strong farm system, someone who can handle the BS of NY, someone who can make astute trades and pick up cheap bargains here and there. That’s the make up of top GM that can survive in NY imo. Is Cashman all of that, mostly.

  33. SJ44 February 15th, 2011 at 10:38 am

    Like I said troll, go find it yourself.

    I have no reason to lie about it.

    If it’s too difficult for you, assign the task to someone else.

    CC has stated in interviews that he wanted an opt out in any deal he would have signed.

    Perhaps Chad could ask him the question today.

  34. blake February 15th, 2011 at 10:41 am

    Ys guy,

    More talking about the role than ability of the player.

  35. West Coast Yankee Fan February 15th, 2011 at 10:41 am

    Interesting from Sherman this morning:

    “GM Brian Cashman said the team’s policy remains not to negotiate new deals until the old ones expire. He said it was possible that could change for Sabathia, but only at the behest of ownership.”

  36. Vineyard Yankee February 15th, 2011 at 10:42 am

    YankeesNmore February 15th, 2011 at 10:36 am

    I think if one posts a quote that others have not seen or heard and gets called on it they need to own it ( link ) Saying to go find it yourself is just a cowards attempt at a way out.

    If you don’t have the link then own that too and admit you made an error.

  37. YankeesNmore February 15th, 2011 at 10:42 am

    The Yankees having a lot of money is no reason to NOT have a “top GM.”

    I can’t imagine going to my boss and saying, “Ya, I’m mediocre at best, but you can afford all my mistakes.”

    If ANY team has a top GM, the Yankees should.

  38. YankeesNmore February 15th, 2011 at 10:44 am

    Vineyard Yankee says:
    February 15, 2011 at 10:42 am
    YankeesNmore February 15th, 2011 at 10:36 am

    I think if one posts a quote that others have not seen or heard and gets called on it they need to own it ( link ) Saying to go find it yourself is just a cowards attempt at a way out.

    If you don’t have the link then own that too and admit you made an error.
    ————————————-
    I think everybody except the liar who got exposed thinks that way, Vineyard.

  39. Tom in N.J. February 15th, 2011 at 10:47 am

    Brewer’s GM Bob Melvin :

    “(Sabathia’s agents) told us the other day they were going to ask for an ’opt-out’ no matter who (the signing team) is,” said Melvin. “So, we were prepared to do an ’opt-out’ also.

    http://gazettextra.com/news/20.....a-yankees/

  40. YankeesNmore February 15th, 2011 at 10:48 am

    Vineyard Yankee says:
    February 15, 2011 at 10:36 am
    Let the Cashman minor league prospects mature and see how they pan out before throwing him to the lions.
    —————————–
    He’s been the GM for 13 years. How much longer do we need to wait?

  41. SJ44 February 15th, 2011 at 10:49 am

    Thanks Tom.

    Now fly away troll.

  42. Against All Odds February 15th, 2011 at 10:51 am

    # YankeesNmore February 15th, 2011 at 10:48 am

    Vineyard Yankee says:
    February 15, 2011 at 10:36 am
    Let the Cashman minor league prospects mature and see how they pan out before throwing him to the lions.
    —————————–
    He’s been the GM for 13 years. How much longer do we need to wait?

    —————————————–

    probably 2 more yrs

  43. Ben February 15th, 2011 at 10:51 am

    I have never been so happy to read a schedule. Baseball!

  44. Shame Spencer February 15th, 2011 at 10:53 am

    Tom in Nj, comin’ through in the clutch.

  45. YankeesNmore February 15th, 2011 at 10:54 am

    probably 2 more yrs
    ————————–
    And the when this group Alan Horne’s and Joba’s their way out of the picture, there will be another group of magic beans we need to wait 2 more years for.

  46. Bronx Jeers February 15th, 2011 at 10:54 am

    E Boland tweet-

    Burnett said he reflected on flight home after season that he wasn’t a factor. “I wasn’t really a factor and I’m here to be a factor.”

    ————————————————-

    Took him that long to realize that?

  47. Erica in NY February 15th, 2011 at 10:56 am

    Tom in NJ = Pepsi Clutch Performer of the Game

  48. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 15th, 2011 at 10:58 am

    “Cashman has been the GM of this franchise for 13 seasons, and they’ve won ONE W.S. with a team he built. And now he has turned the team into a $200 million underdog.”

    WAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Talk about a one-note song!

    Here’s a clue for you. Brian Cashman is with the Yankees as long as he wants to be with the Yankees. Cashman wasn’t given total autonomy until his last contract. So I don’t know what in hell 13 years you’re talking about.

    Of course we all know that he’s in charge of injuries and players’ down seasons.

    :roll:

    ********************

    MY FAVORITE PLAYERS DU JOUR

    Bartolo Colon (to Gustavo Molina)
    Freddy Garcia (to Francisco Cervelli)
    Sergio Mitre (to Jesus Montero)
    CC Sabathia (to Russell Martin)

    Group 2
    Luis Ayala (to Jose Gil)
    Boone Logan (to Jesus Montero)
    Mark Prior (to Austin Romine)

    Group 3
    Buddy Carlyle (to Kyle Higashioka)
    Robert Fish (to Francisco Cervelli)
    Ryan Pope (to Gustavo Molina)
    Brian Schlitter (to Jose Gil)

    • Hitting groups:

    Group 1
    Francisco Cervelli
    Russell Martin
    Gustavo Molina
    Jorge Posada
    Brett Gardner

    Group 2
    Jose Gil
    Kyle Higashioka
    Jesus Montero
    Austin Romine

    If they’re in pinstripes, I have their backs.

    GO ST YANKEES!!!!!

    ********************

    Players I totally believe in – all of them, and at the top of the list – AJ and Sergio.

  49. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 15th, 2011 at 10:59 am

    About CC and his opt out. BFD.

  50. Vineyard Yankee February 15th, 2011 at 10:59 am

    YNM:

    I think he will be allowed by Mgmt. to see how some of this minor league talent pans out first. Although he has been the GM for 13 years he only has been able to actually call the shots (his) since,…. 2005 ? when he held The Boss’ feet to the fire.

    Of course we will find out at the end of this year when he is renewed or not.

  51. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 15th, 2011 at 11:01 am

    “For those who believe Cashman should NOT be fired while also recognizing that he’s “NOT a top GM,” I have only one question:

    Why shouldn’t the Yankees have a top GM?”

    They do. Oh sorry, I’m not one of the group who believes Cashman is NOT a top GM.

    He is.

  52. Against All Odds February 15th, 2011 at 11:04 am

    # YankeesNmore February 15th, 2011 at 10:54 am

    probably 2 more yrs
    ————————–
    And the when this group Alan Horne’s and Joba’s their way out of the picture, there will be another group of magic beans we need to wait 2 more years for.

    ——————————————————-

    If they don’t pan over a period of time then yes you will hear wait for the next batch of kids

  53. Erin February 15th, 2011 at 11:04 am

    Ledger_Yankees Players on the field now. Pena looks like he’s ready to torture the catchers. #nyy

  54. Erin February 15th, 2011 at 11:05 am

    BryanHoch Yankees on the field: http://yfrog.com/h229dlej

  55. West Coast Yankee Fan February 15th, 2011 at 11:05 am

    Assuming Cashman re-signs, I think the next couple years will be telling in evaluating his performance. If Montero and the pitchers in the minors perform up to expectations; all will be hunky dory. If not, well, you can finish painting that picture.

  56. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 15th, 2011 at 11:05 am

    BRIAN CASHMAN – KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!! Don’t be discouraged by any n’er do well fans who need medications any time a Yankee season doesn’t end in a world series.

  57. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 15th, 2011 at 11:06 am

    I’m starting to think Cashman might possibly not want to re-sign. I hope I’m wrong.

  58. rodg12 February 15th, 2011 at 11:07 am

    Ah, pictures of the Yankees in Spring Training. :) That plus the warmer temps here melting the snow brings joy to my heart. Actual baseball isn’t too far off and I’m really looking forward to it!

  59. pat February 15th, 2011 at 11:08 am

    ?GM Brian Cashman said the team’s policy remains not to negotiate new deals until the old ones expire. He said it was possible that could change for Sabathia, but only at the behest of ownership.?

    They could call it the opt-out exemption to not negotiating prior to expiration of a contract because they were willing to negotiate prior to the opt out with Alex too.

  60. Against All Odds February 15th, 2011 at 11:11 am

    # pat February 15th, 2011 at 11:08 am

    ?GM Brian Cashman said the team’s policy remains not to negotiate new deals until the old ones expire. He said it was possible that could change for Sabathia, but only at the behest of ownership.?

    They could call it the opt-out exemption to not negotiating prior to expiration of a contract because they were willing to negotiate prior to the opt out with Alex too.

    —————————————————–

    I think trying to negotiate with A-rod was an attempt to gain public support because they know Boras clients usually test the market.

  61. hardwired7 February 15th, 2011 at 11:11 am

    He’s set to make over $24M/yr through 2015. Just how much more $$$ and how many more yrs are out there for CC?

    Maybe two mystery teams can combine forces and split a $30M/yr contract.

    Short of that, who’s going to be able outbid the Yanks?

    They should have a nice war chest considering they’re $13M under last yr’s budget:

    http://spreadsheets.google.com.....utput=html

  62. Cashmoney February 15th, 2011 at 11:12 am

    there are two things I will safely assume that’s going to happen

    CC will be pitching for the Yankees in 11
    Cashman will the GM for 11

    Err… not quite sure why some of us devote most our idle energy to things that won’t resolve itself til end of year.

    Another fact, shyte hasn’t happen yet… let’s enjoy the spring before we worry about things that are out of our control.

  63. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 15th, 2011 at 11:14 am

    “Err… not quite sure why some of us devote most our idle energy to things that won’t resolve itself til end of year.

    Another fact, shyte hasn’t happen yet… let’s enjoy the spring before we worry about things that are out of our control.”

    :D

    IF FLIPPIN’ ONLY!!!

  64. Joe from Long Island February 15th, 2011 at 11:15 am

    trisha – agreed about the opt-out. Much ado about not much.

  65. Clare February 15th, 2011 at 11:16 am

    Chad,

    Thanks for the update on Alan Horne. On the subject of oft-injured minor league pitchers – has J.B. Cox retired for good?

  66. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 15th, 2011 at 11:16 am

    Speaking of a one-trick pony, every year for me it’s the same thing. I don’t realize how the heck much I’ve missed the game until I start to see pictures from ST!!!!

    I guess that’s not a bad thing.

    :)

  67. Shame Spencer February 15th, 2011 at 11:19 am

    trisha – true pinstriped blue February 15th, 2011 at 10:59 am

    About CC and his opt out. BFD.

    ————————–

    THANK YOU! Couldnt agree more..

  68. hardwired7 February 15th, 2011 at 11:20 am

    I would ask CC how he could eat that much Cap’N Crunch and not shred the hell out of his gums???

    For me, it’s like eating fiberglass insulation (delicious insulation, but insulation nonetheless.)

  69. West Coast Yankee Fan February 15th, 2011 at 11:20 am

    I don’t like the Yankees policy of not negotiating a new deal until the old one has expired. But they should be consistent one way or the other. If they do it for superstars and not for other players that will only exacerbate class distinctions which would erode the concept of “team”.

  70. pat February 15th, 2011 at 11:20 am

    YankeesPR Yankees pitchers and catchers are on the field stretching before their first official spring training workout http://twitpic.com/4057q2

  71. tyanksfan36 February 15th, 2011 at 11:20 am

    I just left the stadium sadly, they were still stretching but everyone looked really good. CC looks a lot smaller and Joba still looks big. I took lots of pictures so when I get home around 2, I will upload them.

  72. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 15th, 2011 at 11:21 am

    Joe from LI – seriously, that one has me stymied. Why does anyone care that CC has an opt out and that he might use it? If he chooses to renegotiate his contract big deal. He’s more than earned the right.

    The things that people get in a bunch about boggles the imagination.

  73. Cashmoney February 15th, 2011 at 11:23 am

    I don’t like the Yankees policy of not negotiating a new deal until the old one has expired.
    —————
    agree. if it make sense to do it in season, then by all means.

  74. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 15th, 2011 at 11:23 am

    tyanksfan, you are SO lucky!!! Can’t wait to see those pictures.

    Shame – so good to see you again!

  75. SJ44 February 15th, 2011 at 11:23 am

    I guess the troll doesn’t want to discuss CC’s opt out anymore. Not surprising since it’s a non-story in the grand scheme.

    I won’t hold my breath waiting for the troll to apologize for calling me a liar.

    I’ll just ignore his psycho ramblings from hereon out.

  76. rodg12 February 15th, 2011 at 11:23 am

    # tyanksfan36 February 15th, 2011 at 11:20 am

    I just left the stadium sadly, they were still stretching but everyone looked really good. CC looks a lot smaller and Joba still looks big. I took lots of pictures so when I get home around 2, I will upload them.
    —————————————————-
    Awesome. Looking forward to these, ty. :popcorn:

  77. Erin February 15th, 2011 at 11:24 am

    ty-I’m so jealous! Can’t wait to see your pictures. :)

  78. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 15th, 2011 at 11:25 am

    It doesn’t bother me that there are exceptions to policy. I’m sure those happen if and only if the Yankees see a real need for the exception. I agree with Pat that it could come under the category of negotiating for players with opt-outs. That of course would be a vast exception.

  79. West Coast Yankee Fan February 15th, 2011 at 11:26 am

    tyanksfan36, did you spot any man boobs?

  80. blake February 15th, 2011 at 11:26 am

    The Yankees have missed the playoff once since what 1995. How do they not have a top GM?……because they haven’t won the WS every single season….it just ain’t that easy.

    If you want to see how a bad GM uses a big payroll there are examples out there……one in the same town.

  81. heyman_sux February 15th, 2011 at 11:27 am

    I don?t like the Yankees policy of not negotiating a new deal until the old one has expired. But they should be consistent one way or the other. If they do it for superstars and not for other players that will only exacerbate class distinctions which would erode the concept of ?team?.
    __________

    I think you mentioned the Yankees justification for not doing extensions, keeping it all even rather than picking and choosing who to extend. It’s not a problem for them because they have (near) limitless financial resources

  82. Patrick February 15th, 2011 at 11:27 am

    It’s pretty amusing following the comments this morning. YankeesNmore is hilarious… what a dumbass

  83. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 15th, 2011 at 11:28 am

    “tyanksfan36, did you spot any man boobs?”

    That’s a gross question!

  84. Wave Your Hat February 15th, 2011 at 11:28 am

    Do we all agree that CC wanting an opt out in any contract he signed is not evidence that he isn’t likely to exercise the opt-out?

  85. Shame Spencer February 15th, 2011 at 11:28 am

    Even if CC does opt out, I’m still not sure what the rush would be to resign him before the season’s out. If he’s opting out for a better deal, what other team exists that could give him one?

    If he really wants a change of scenary, he’ll leave no matter what.

  86. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 15th, 2011 at 11:29 am

    “It’s pretty amusing following the comments this morning. YankeesNmore is hilarious… what a dumbass”

    :)

  87. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 15th, 2011 at 11:30 am

    “Do we all agree that CC wanting an opt out in any contract he signed is not evidence that he isn’t likely to exercise the opt-out?”

    Could you please restate that question in the positive form?

    Thanks!

    :)

  88. Cashmoney February 15th, 2011 at 11:31 am

    It’s not a problem for them because they have (near) limitless financial resources
    ———-
    I do think they have limit resource, be a artificial self constraint or a real one, debatable. But that does not preclude them to make sound deal in season if it makes sense.

  89. tyanksfan36 February 15th, 2011 at 11:31 am

    It was so hard to leave but I’ve already missed my tuesday class once and I have stuff due today. All I really got are pictures of them standing around and stretching which is what they were still doing when I left. I cannot wait until sunday. Ill need my sunscreen. If I was there all day today I would probably get a sunburn.

  90. Wave Your Hat February 15th, 2011 at 11:31 am

    “Could you please restate that question in the positive form?

    But trisha, I’m not a positive poster! :)

  91. Erin February 15th, 2011 at 11:31 am

    Ledger_Yankees Colon throwing to CC which is nice. But it would be more fun to watch them line up and charge one another head on. #nyy

    :lol:

  92. Patrick February 15th, 2011 at 11:32 am

    Do we all agree that CC wanting an opt out in any contract he signed is not evidence that he isn’t likely to exercise the opt-out?

    Yeah. I’ve always assumed he WOULD opt out, it wouldn’t make sense not to. However, I could see Cashman extending him after the year before he gets a chance to opt out. Either way, I’m pretty confident in saying that CC will be a Yankee after this year, and he will get more money to stay here.

  93. heyman_sux February 15th, 2011 at 11:32 am

    CC will opt out and probably be seen temporarily as a minor villain, as if he’s somehow a greedy person. But he will be resigned to what will probably amount to a 3-year extension that will mirror the Cliff Lee deal. If they were going to pay Lee the money he was offered to pitch until his age 38 season, why wouldn’t they reward their own ace, who has performed the past two years and is expected to carry the current rotation?

    CC’s opt out is only a story because baseball is not being played yet. But even when he does opt out, why worry? He’s going to be a Yankee regardless

  94. West Coast Yankee Fan February 15th, 2011 at 11:32 am

    Blake reasonable people can debate Cashman’s effectiveness in the context of evaluating the Yankee farm system and the talent involved in handing checks to players like Sabathia, A-Rod, Burnett, Teixeira, etc. And the dollars involved in keeping your other superstars, like Jeter, Mo, Pettitte and Posada over the years is more a reflection of the franchises wealth. I don’t think he’s the worst GM out there or the best. I think along with his good moves and there have been more than a few, there have been some real dogs, we all know who they are. I don’t think it needs to be labeled an extreme one way or the other.

  95. Tom in N.J. February 15th, 2011 at 11:33 am

    “Thanks Tom.”

    No problem SJ.

    I couldn’t let YankeesNmore and Vineyard Yankee dominate this board with stupid name calling. It was “Past time for a change”, I guess…

  96. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 15th, 2011 at 11:33 am

    tyanks – jealous jealous jealous jealous jealous! Or is it envious? Either way, I am!!!

    :)

  97. hardwired7 February 15th, 2011 at 11:33 am

    o/t: Hard to believe, but apparently Joel Zumaya is back to throwing BB’s:

    http://detroitnews.com/article.....rd-as-ever

    “We can rebuild him. We have the technology.”

  98. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 15th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    Wave, :lol:

  99. Erin February 15th, 2011 at 11:36 am

    Joelsherman1 Posada with Cs in drills but not in equipment or doing work, but doing as much coaching as Tony Pena #Yankees

  100. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 15th, 2011 at 11:36 am

    “CC will opt out and probably be seen temporarily as a minor villain, as if he’s somehow a greedy person. But he will be resigned to what will probably amount to a 3-year extension that will mirror the Cliff Lee deal. If they were going to pay Lee the money he was offered to pitch until his age 38 season, why wouldn’t they reward their own ace, who has performed the past two years and is expected to carry the current rotation?

    CC’s opt out is only a story because baseball is not being played yet. But even when he does opt out, why worry? He’s going to be a Yankee regardless”

    Absolute BINGO.

    I think it’s ridiculous for anyone to see him as any kind of villian if he does opt out, especially those who were salivating to get Lee and were willing to chip in their own money and years off their own lives to add to his contract!

  101. Erin February 15th, 2011 at 11:39 am

    BloggingBombers Mariano Rivera has not arrived at Yankees camp yet, though Brian Cashman said he should be here “sometime today.”

  102. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 15th, 2011 at 11:39 am

    THRILLED for Zumaya. My absolute enjoyment of the game includes watching players from other teams who are exceptional. Zumaya is definitely one of those players. Good on you, Joel!

  103. tyanksfan36 February 15th, 2011 at 11:39 am

    West coast

    Re:man boobs. Why are you there?

  104. Erin February 15th, 2011 at 11:40 am

    New Post: The bullpen comes to life

    :arrow:

  105. Patrick February 15th, 2011 at 11:41 am

    Absolute BINGO.

    I think it’s ridiculous for anyone to see him as any kind of villian if he does opt out, especially those who were salivating to get Lee and were willing to chip in their own money and years off their own lives to add to his contract!

    Some fans are dumb, enough said. Anyone that gets mad at CC for opting out is not thinking clearly.

  106. SAS February 15th, 2011 at 11:41 am

    Enough about CC. He is signed for this year. Can’t we talk about this season before worrying about CC. It is boring for starters.

    On this blog all anyone wants to talk about is negatives. We need 2 starting pitchers NOW. Why can’t we begin to think about that, but as a positive thing, not a negative one.

  107. West Coast Yankee Fan February 15th, 2011 at 11:44 am

    I’m telling you – look out for Detroit this year.

  108. SJ44 February 15th, 2011 at 11:44 am

    It’s more than just “using the checkbook”.

    He had to actively recruit and sell CC to come to NY.

    Folks have short memories.

    At the time, the Yankees had fractured clubhouse.

    So fractured, CC brought it up to Cashman A’s a problem for him in their first meeting.

    Instead of spinning it, Cashman took it head on and told CC he wanted him to be part of the solution to that issue. That built lines of communication between the two that proved to be important in the negotiations.

    He also had to sell Hal on the concept of going over budget to sign Tex.

    He also has to manage the politics within the organization. No easy task.

    To have a team in contention every year, a Top Five farm system, and manage the internal politics successfully shows the guy to be a very good GM.

    Unless you either don’t understand the job, or you are just trolling, the performance and record the guy has compiled during his tenure is certainly not grounds for change.

    Is he perfect? Of course not. No GM is perfect.

    However, he’s in the upper level of GM’s in the game.

    That’s not just my opinion. It’s the opinion of his peers.

  109. BIG AL February 15th, 2011 at 11:49 am

    trisha -

    No matter what you say, the nay sayers are just negative people, that must go through life always looking at the glass as half empty and the sky is always falling.

    I for one try to ignore the negatitivity, because of my faith in the Yankees as a team, and as a great organization. I’d love the Yankees to win a WS every year, but, I realize that’s not likely to happen, still I’ll believe they remain winners, even without the WS title.

    Those always looking for fault, being consistently negative, are not real fans, just a bunch of whiners that have nothing better in their lives to do, and would like nothing better than to bring the rest of us down to their level.

  110. BIG AL February 15th, 2011 at 11:51 am

    SJ44 -

    Well said, agree 100%.

  111. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 15th, 2011 at 11:58 am

    Big Al!

    Right on. These are our guys through thick and thin. My joy comes from being a Yankee fan. That’s also my privilege.

    :)

    Shortened answer on next thread.


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