Chamberlain: “I’m in better shape than I have been”
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 16, 2011 
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Joba Chamberlain knew the weight question was coming. He had apparently already answered it once or twice this morning, and when a pack of reporters approached him this afternoon, he wasn’t especially happy to be discussing it again.
“This is the last time I’m going to answer this question,” Chamberlain said. “I know you guys have to ask it. I feel great. I’m stronger physically. I’m better in my bullpens, right where I was at the end of last year, getting my mechanics. I know you guys have to ask it, but that’s’ the last time I’m going to answer it.”
Of course, weight only matters in terms of being in shape. As I’ve written the past couple of days, the place Chamberlain is most noticeably bigger is through the chest and shoulders. Whether that’s a good or bad thing, I don’t know, but Chamberlain said he feels great.
“Awesome,” he said. “I would probably say that I’m in better shape than I have been in a couple years. The running is great. I mean, running’s never easy, but it’s something that I don’t’ dread every day. It’s a peace of mind for me when I run.”
Joe Girardi seemed to echo that idea: “You think about what it says (that he’s heavier), but Joba is going to be pretty much evaluated on how he pitches. That’s the bottom line, and we’ve been very pleased in what we’ve seen so far. The little adjustment he’s made with his hands seems to really (help). He looks better throwing bullpens now than he did last year. He sure does. And that’s encouraging for us.”
Associated Press photo of Chamberlain walking out of the bullpen with Russell Martin. I know it’s not ideal for this sort of issue, but I really haven’t seen a good full-body AP picture of Chamberlain.
so joba’s bigger? has this been talked about yet?
These pretzels are making me thirsty!!
Speaking of Cap N’ Crunch…
Has anyone already made the cereal killer joke about CC yet? Cause I’m all over it if no one has gotten there.
Joba has taken “rounding into form” a bit too literally in my opinion.
And if he wants the questions about his weight to end then there’s a simple solution – don’t come to camp looking like you belong in a beer league softball game you moron.
Triple Short of a Cycle February 16th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Erica in NY,
Are you a granola head?
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I am not sure I understand the question so I am just going to answer it three ways
1) Do I like granola? Yes, I like granola a lot
2) Do I eat excessive amounts of granola? No. I actually hardly ever buy granola cause I probably would eat it excessively if I bought it.
3) Am I a health nut? I try to eat healthy. But fail more than I would like to.
Chad–can’t you lighten the photos using your Iphone or whatever camera you use?
Hey–Joba is in the shape he wants. He just happens to like the shape of an egg.
BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Chad–can’t you lighten the photos using your Iphone or whatever camera you use?
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I thought Chad was going for artsy shadow photos
Shame Spencer February 16th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Speaking of Cap N’ Crunch…
Has anyone already made the cereal killer joke about CC yet? Cause I’m all over it if no one has gotten there.
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Bring it on.
BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
Hey–Joba is in the shape he wants. He just happens to like the shape of an egg.
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Hahahahaha.
There is an old dude at my beach club who is always wearing a shirt that says, “I am in shape. Round is a shape”
Erica in NY February 16th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
I thought Chad was going for artsy shadow photos
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For all we know, that’s Donald Trump and Fred Wilpon.
“Chad–can’t you lighten the photos using your Iphone or whatever camera you use?”
Not when Chamberlain is blocking the sun.
FWIW- muscle, due to it’s greater water content, weighs more than fat. So, in a training program, it’s possible to lose body fat, put on muscle, and gain weight.
Whether this is Joba’s situation or not, I have no idea, obviously. Just pointing out a little tidbit for consideration.
If, as Chad reports, Joba is bigger around the chest and shoulders, this might be the case. Again, I have no way of knowing.
“I’m in better shape than I have been” … for at least the last two weeks.
The guy is fat as a house. Who does he think he’s kidding?
Mell February 16th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
“Chad–can’t you lighten the photos using your Iphone or whatever camera you use?”
Not when Chamberlain is blocking the sun.
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Joba’s also very touchy about questions regarding his work ethic. People don’t realize the kind of dedication it takes to video games and snacking to get your body to look like that.
Those things that look like hats are actually their noses….(look at it for 10 seconds and imagine)
Erica in NY,
Well since we were naming snack foods I figured you were of the healthy variety with your answer
Joe from Long Island February 16th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
FWIW- muscle, due to it’s greater water content, weighs more than fat. So, in a training program, it’s possible to lose body fat, put on muscle, and gain weight.
Whether this is Joba’s situation or not, I have no idea, obviously. Just pointing out a little tidbit for consideration.
If, as Chad reports, Joba is bigger around the chest and shoulders, this might be the case. Again, I have no way of knowing.
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I believe Joba’s added girth is muscle as much as I believed that Giambi’s weight loss a few years ago was because he backed off hamburgers rather than HGH.
M,
There is no such rule relating to Hughes and Joba that prevents them from being optioned. All players who are optioned pass through optional waivers, and there is a gentlemen’s agreement not to take players from there. And infact, no one has ever been claimed. EVen if he was claimed, the yankees could simply pull the player back.
No downside to using an option for joba if the situation warrants it.
Muscle weighs more than the same mass of fat, as has been pointed out.
HOWEVER, muscle BURNS fat like crazy, and Joba, I think we can ALL agree, is not lacking in the fat department.
If he was working out hard enough to add a significant amount of muscle, he WOULD have lost weight, not gained it.
Look at the pic in Newsday. He’s FAT.
Mike_Boston February 16th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
These pretzels are making me thirsty!!
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I’m hopeful that there will be a Rothschild-dividend for most of their pitchers, Joba included.
“People don’t realize the kind of dedication it takes to video games and snacking to get your body to look like that”
I don’t doubt his committment. He built a gym for his PS 3.
Joe from LI could be right. Maybe the added weight is muscle. Truth probably lies somewhere between that and the Bacon, Beer and Super Mario Diet.
I’m not taking the pictures. That’s an AP photo. Nothing I can do to change them.
Muscle does not weigh more than fat. That is a myth.
Muscle is denser than fat.
Mell February 16th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
“People don’t realize the kind of dedication it takes to video games and snacking to get your body to look like that”
I don’t doubt his committment. He built a gym for his PS 3.
Joe from LI could be right. Maybe the added weight is muscle. Truth probably lies somewhere between that and the Bacon, Beer and Super Mario Diet.
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Probably not a good sign that his personal trainers were Eddy Curry and Fridge Perry.
I feel for Joba. I can’t think if anyone else who had to suffer this kind of scrutiny.
The only think I can tell from the limited pictures I’ve seen is that the area behind his neck is noticeably larger. That means he’s been lifting. Which is good, that’s what athletes do. He’s also been running, that should help his stamina.
The only thing that matters is how he pitches, same like everybody else. But if he’s not pitching well because of things he can control, then that’s another issue. I just can’t see why people want to give him away.
Mell February 16th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Joe from LI could be right. Maybe the added weight is muscle. Truth probably lies somewhere between that and the Bacon, Beer and Super Mario Diet.
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I still say CC sent all of his leftover Cap’n Crunch to Joba.
There are teenage girls who aren’t as snarky as many of you are about Joba.
Joba did intense cheek strengthening exercises this winter…..hence the jowls…..
The thing that continues to drive me nuts about Joba is he acts and talks as if he has all the answers, but his actions make he clear he has few or none.
He basically knows the right words to SAY, but his actions rarely back up those words.
This guy lost THREE JOBS in a span of six months last year–rotation spot to Hughes, setup to Wood, 7th-inning to Robertson–and he responds by showing up at camp looking like a pig.
Triple Short of a Cycle February 16th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
Erica in NY,
Well since we were naming snack foods I figured you were of the healthy variety with your answer
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Funny, I never consider Chex Mix healthy
Although, for the official Lohud record, I am snacking on carrot sticks this afternoon
(Joba take notes)
As was pointed out about the pix. The shadows and light aspect is part of the new Yankee Noir phase.
m February 16th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
I feel for Joba. I can’t think if anyone else who had to suffer this kind of scrutiny.
The only think I can tell from the limited pictures I’ve seen is that the area behind his neck is noticeably larger. That means he’s been lifting. Which is good, that’s what athletes do. He’s also been running, that should help his stamina.
The only thing that matters is how he pitches, same like everybody else. But if he’s not pitching well because of things he can control, then that’s another issue. I just can’t see why people want to give him away.
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Yeah it’s a rough life Joba’s got – millions of dollars to play baseball for 6 months and keep yourself in shape to play baseball the other 6 months…wah.
What do u think G will address Montero as… Jeesey? Sussy? Monsy? Rosie or something else…
Joe from LI is a doctor.
I think it’s probably a smarter play to take his POV on these matters than the usual hysterical bloggers.
He can be over his prescribed weight AND be in better shape.
Proof in the pudding will be how he pitches.
He could look like a finely tuned sprinter. If he doesn’t pitch well, it won’t matter.
Honestly, it depends on what Joba was doing to train. There’s no definitive answer like, “If he was training, he would have lost weight,” or, “If he was training, he would have bulked up.”
That said, if Joba was doing fat-burning cardio, than he should have dropped weight regardless of an increase in muscle mass. If he was just lifting weights, he wouldn’t have dropped much weight, if any.
I’m sure his training regime fell somewhere in between those two extremes. Personally, the pictures lead me to believe that he didn’t train very hard, or wasn’t being trained well. Just my two cents.
Cashmoney February 16th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
What do u think G will address Montero as… Jeesey? Sussy? Monsy? Rosie or something else…
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Montie
Doreen-
I feel very guilty and yet I can’t help laugh. So conflicting
The thing that continues to drive me nuts about Joba
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I’ll call BS on this. You were nuts before Chamberlain ever joined the Yankees.
Doreen February 16th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
There are teenage girls who aren?t as snarky as many of you are about Joba.
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Doreen, you clearly did not attend my high school. These comments are nothing!
Chip,
I don’t want to drag the discussion on further, but it is a basic courtesy on this blog not to discuss politics. I’ll leave it at that because I can safely assume the vast majority of people on here feel the same way.
Density is defined as mass divided by volume. Muscle is denser than fat, by about 15% if I remember my physiology correctly. For the same volume under consideration, muscle will have a greater mass – measured in kg or lbs – than fat.
Phat Joba.
(I’m an optimist.)
It probably would have been wise for Joba to inform the Yankees of any change in his off-season program.
Players don’t always inform teams of any change in their off-season workout programs.
If he was going to be bigger coming into camp, je would have been wise to give the Yankees a heads up.
That would have avoided him springing it on them.
Montie make sense Chip, I think Bracksie is a lock.
True if Joba pitches well he can eat two sides of bacon every morning and it wont matter.
SJ44 February 16th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
Joe from LI is a doctor.
I think it’s probably a smarter play to take his POV on these matters than the usual hysterical bloggers.
He can be over his prescribed weight AND be in better shape.
Proof in the pudding will be how he pitches.
He could look like a finely tuned sprinter. If he doesn’t pitch well, it won’t matter.
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Based on some of the reports the Yankees are not at all pleased with the fact that he’s over his reporting weight.
You may be right that it will all come down to pitching – but in what is quite obviously a make or break year for Joba’s career it was not the right tone to set coming into camp. You are given a weight to report at – you have all winter to get at that weight – what’s the problem? It’s not like the old days where ball players had to work winter jobs to make the ends meet.
CC managed to drop 30 lbs this winter so it’s not like it’s asking Joba to do something impossible.
Chip-
Thats not totally true. Its seven months of baseball if you make the playoffs (like the Yankees expect to every season)
And then another month and a half for spring training. (Which you are expected to come in “in shape”)
That only really leaves November, December and January to eat/drink what you want
Either way though, at this point, it’s all about results with Joba.
How he looks makes for a day of filling space with ST stories.
How he pitches will determine his future, not how he looks.
LGY February 16th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Chip,
I don’t want to drag the discussion on further, but it is a basic courtesy on this blog not to discuss politics. I’ll leave it at that because I can safely assume the vast majority of people on here feel the same way.
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And all I’m suggesting is that if you find a topic not to your liking ignore it. That’s the quickest way to see it end. With the exception of a few tools like YNM people aren’t going to keep posting if you don’t respond. If you do respond, well there are some idiots who like knowing they can push other people’s buttons and get an argument going so it just encourages them.
It’s a fight you can’t win so just walk away.
Chip, you’re missing the point. They ALL make millions of dollars, but only Joba goes through the scrutiny.
He could be just like many of the other prospects that turn out to be more average than expected. But the obsession with Joba is getting old. At this point, he’s just another pitcher, but he gets the scrutiny formerly reserved for Alex.
And the “pack” seems to have decided that this is the big story of the spring so far. That’s why I feel for Joba.
LGY – Since when is a post about sports media political? And, I also would assume you will be consistent and chastise GB7 for his political comments about tree huggers. Care to confirm that?
Erica in NY February 16th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
Chip-
Thats not totally true. Its seven months of baseball if you make the playoffs (like the Yankees expect to every season)
And then another month and a half for spring training. (Which you are expected to come in “in shape”)
That only really leaves November, December and January to eat/drink what you want
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Fair enough Erica,
But if you give me a million and change and ask me to lose a few pounds between the last time I pitch and spring training then I might pass on the fried chicken and gravy while still working out.
Maybe a Crumbs bakery opened up next door to Joba’s house
m February 16th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
Chip, you’re missing the point. They ALL make millions of dollars, but only Joba goes through the scrutiny.
He could be just like many of the other prospects that turn out to be more average than expected. But the obsession with Joba is getting old. At this point, he’s just another pitcher, but he gets the scrutiny formerly reserved for Alex.
And the “pack” seems to have decided that this is the big story of the spring so far. That’s why I feel for Joba.
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He goes through the scrutiny because he came up with a ton of hype and has regressed since then while at the same time getting bigger and bigger each year.
The combination suggests laziness (of course none of us are in any position to know if that’s the case for certain)
So when you see a guy who was once tabbed as either a future ace or the future closer being marginalized into middle relief and then responding to that challenge by showing up looking more like Jabba the Hutt than Joba the Pitcher he’s going to get slammed.
BTW, I’m not being a Joba apologist. I would rather him be lighter than bulkier, but that’s his choice.
Chip-
I agree.
And I said the same thing already like, two threads ago
Chip,
Conversely, CC has always been about 20 pounds over his prescribed weight in ST and nobody said a word because he pitched his butt off.
No question Joba is overweight. But, he could be in better shape. We don’t know that yet.
Looking at all sides of it, I don’t think Joba had much communication, if any, with management this off-season.
Not giving them a heads up probably didn’t serve him well. In fact, it’s clear it didn’t.
Bottom line though, it’s a results oriented business. If you get good results this season, how he looks on February 16 will be a distant memory to everybody.
If he doesn’t? He will get ripped. Just how it goes these days.
I think Ken Davidoff had it right this AM. Yes, Joba is heavier and it’s time for fans to lower expectations for him.
LGY,
By virtue of being denser an equal volume of muscle weighs more than an equal volume of fat.
Chip February 16th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Yeah it’s a rough life Joba’s got – millions of dollars to play baseball for 6 months and keep yourself in shape to play baseball the other 6 months…wah.
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Hey–Joba has had a very tough life…abandoned at an early age by mother…dealing with father’s poor health issues throughout his childhood….battling weight issues….getting nationwide publicity for drinking a little too much…
And yet, he is one of the Yankees most dedicated to visiting children’s hospials and giving back to the community. Cut him some slack.
Cashmoney February 16th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
What do u think G will address Montero as… Jeesey? Sussy? Monsy? Rosie or something else…
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The Mesiah?
at least the guys are breaking a good sweat most likely…today feels like the warmest day of the year so far, borderline feeling ‘hot’ w/ the mostly cooler weather Florida has had the last few months /in Florida weather standards
stop whining
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no
I think we can all agree that a pound of Joba is a lot heavier than a pound of Edwar.
But nobody here was with Joba over the winter. Nobody knows what he ate or didn’t eat. Nobody knows what his work out program was or wasn’t.
I get it. He’s bigger. He’s also throwing fine so far.
It’s like there always has to be one guy on the team to pick on.
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Amazing that at 220 pounds or so, Chamberlain’s a slob, but, Sabathia closed last season at around 315-320, comes into camp at 290, and is declared to be in great shape. Whether he pitched great and the other didn’t has nothing to do with it. Neither one will win a Mr. Universe.
Well, I’m disappointed that Joba hasn’t lived up to his potential, as I’m sure Joba and the Yankees are. But I’m not bitter about it. I’ve moved on, if Joba can’t cut it there are other people who will. If he does, then it’s “Go, Joba!”.
# Cashmoney February 16th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
What do u think G will address Montero as… Jeesey? Sussy? Monsy? Rosie or something else…
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He’ll probably call him Monsy *shudders*
best shape of his life ?…..he’s almost ready for the Biggest Loser, his hat just about fits him
SJ44 February 16th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
Proof in the pudding will be how he pitches
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What if he ate the pudding and destroyed the proof?
# GreenBeret7 February 16th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
Amazing that at 220 pounds or so, Chamberlain’s a slob, but, Sabathia closed last season at around 315-320, comes into camp at 290, and is declared to be in great shape. Whether he pitched great and the other didn’t has nothing to do with it. Neither one will win a Mr. Universe.
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who says joba’s 220 or so ?
The only thing I have a problem with re: Joba is his hair. It bugs me. He needs a haircut.
There’s my complaint about Joba.
Short of hydrostaticly weighing him, lets take his word for it as long as he’s throwing well.
Doreen – refresh my memory, do we get practice for GTL with some spring training games?
I assumed not because the line-ups vary so much but later in ST they tend to be more similar to what a game day roster might look like.. I couldnt remember if you hosted any ST games.
“I think we can all agree that a pound of Joba is a lot heavier than a pound of Edwar.”
I haven’t fallen for that one since I was 8.
hey Erica, btw, I joined my second fantasy baseball league ever… My team’s name is the ravenous madbeavers, intimidating eh?
I would imagine that the last 3-4 games of ST will be the starting line-up.
you guys and gals laugh all you want…
im buying all of chip’s joba stock, and all of concerned citizen’s
who else is selling joba, blake?
Shame Spencer -
Yes.
The first GTLU is the first game of ST, February 26th, which is a Saturday. It will be the only time this season that GTLU is played on a weekend.
There will be 8 practice GTLUs. If you click on my name and visit the website, I’ve listed the dates of the 8 games.
Joba’s 6’3″ and CC’s like 6’7″, really no comparison weight wise.
And from what I can see CC lost a lot of gut. And Chad said that Jiba wasn’t pudgy or soft. That’s good enough for me.
he was 230 at the start of last season,got bigger as the year went on & is even bigger now….
my best guess which means nothing
6′ 2…245
m February 16th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
BTW, I’m not being a Joba apologist. I would rather him be lighter than bulkier, but that’s his choice.
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Actually it isn’t.
He was given a weight to report at – he didn’t do it.
I agree with SJ – if he wanted to break from what the Yankees were asking him to do he should have talked to them first.
Ys, I plan to corner the market on the hut, might take it awhile to do so due it’s vastness.
Also, the ST GTLU will not count toward the standings.
# GreenBeret7 February 16th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
Amazing that at 220 pounds or so, Chamberlain’s a slob, but, Sabathia closed last season at around 315-320, comes into camp at 290, and is declared to be in great shape. Whether he pitched great and the other didn’t has nothing to do with it. Neither one will win a Mr. Universe.
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I was thinking the same exact thing, only one guy has a CY under his belt and is considered a top 5 pitcher the other not so much…once/if he starts pitching to his potential again the weight issue will be no longer, it’s as simple as that. Right now it’s the only thing people can see with their eyes, wait until the next month, let’s see if he can find that consistency he’s been lacking since 07.
God Doreen, you’re so efficient its scary. Thanks!
Ys Guy February 16th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
you guys and gals laugh all you want…
im buying all of chip’s joba stock, and all of concerned citizen’s
who else is selling joba, blake?
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I’ll sell you all you want at $10 a pound…send the funds to my paypal account at Bmadoff@scamrus.com
Face,
So muscle volume weighs more than fat volume?
But to reach that equal volume, wouldn’t you need to have more pounds of muscle? At the end of the day 1 pound of muscle still = 1 pound of fat, right?
GreenBeret7 February 16th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
Amazing that at 220 pounds or so, Chamberlain’s a slob, but, Sabathia closed last season at around 315-320, comes into camp at 290, and is declared to be in great shape. Whether he pitched great and the other didn’t has nothing to do with it. Neither one will win a Mr. Universe.
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If the scale says Joba is 220 than I would suggest he put both feet on it next time.
Also, when Joba is a stud pitcher then you can compare him with CC Sabathia – bottom line is that over the last four years his production and role with the team has declined while his weight has increased. Until there is a reversal of that trend his weight will be an issue.
Once Ramiro Pena gets pulled into Joba’s gravitational field and begins to orbit him, then I’ll be concerned.
Ys Guy February 16th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
you guys and gals laugh all you want…
im buying all of chip’s joba stock, and all of concerned citizen’s
who else is selling joba, blake?
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I’m hoping the guy has a light’s out spring training and even start to the season – just makes him easier to trade.
“Cashmoney February 16th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Ys, I plan to corner the market on the hut, might take it awhile to do so due it’s vastness.”
yes, i’ve issued a ‘buy all available shares’ order to my people.
Mike_Boston February 16th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
# GreenBeret7 February 16th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
Amazing that at 220 pounds or so, Chamberlain’s a slob, but, Sabathia closed last season at around 315-320, comes into camp at 290, and is declared to be in great shape. Whether he pitched great and the other didn’t has nothing to do with it. Neither one will win a Mr. Universe.
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I was thinking the same exact thing, only one guy has a CY under his belt and is considered a top 5 pitcher the other not so much…once/if he starts pitching to his potential again the weight issue will be no longer, it’s as simple as that. Right now it’s the only thing people can see with their eyes, wait until the next month, let’s see if he can find that consistency he’s been lacking since 07.
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Pettitte was another one that was huge. a lot bigger than people realized. Big legs and huge in the chest and shoulders. Put him in baggy pants and an oversized, sloppy sweatshirt, and he looks like a slob.
Hey if Joba is pitching light’s out in a month, we’ll all be chipping him to send him pre-game buckets of KFC.
Shame Spencer -
I coulda been a contenda!
All this efficiency was just waiting around for the GTLU outlet!!
This needs a caption:
http://www.daylife.com/photo/0.....rk+Yankees
if joba was in the best shape of his life he wouldn’t be running around with that sweatsuit on, he be in a tee showing off that upper body
I have no problem with the Yankees scolding Joba for being over reporting weight. They weren’t happy with Damon, either.
It’s like a non-story for me. Joba controls his own destiny.
Truth be told, Joba might work his way off the Yankees. And if he’s blocking talent, the Yankees should do the right thing. But we’re not there yet.
BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Hey if Joba is pitching light’s out in a month, we’ll all be chipping him to send him pre-game buckets of KFC.
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beats sacrificing a live chicken
Cashmoney February 16th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
hey Erica, btw, I joined my second fantasy baseball league ever… My team’s name is the ravenous madbeavers, intimidating eh?
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It scares me!
But I still think it sounds dirty
1 pound of muscle still = 1 pound of fat, right?
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1 pound of muscle = 1 pound of fat, duh!
But Joba looking bigger or weighing more doesn’t mean he is necessarily full of fat.
# Erin February 16th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
This needs a caption:
http://www.daylife.com/photo/0…..rk+Yankees
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I told you your a DH and thats it
Erin February 16th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
This needs a caption:
http://www.daylife.com/photo/0…..rk+Yankees
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Are you the Keymaster?
Jerkface February 16th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
1 pound of muscle still = 1 pound of fat, right?
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1 pound of muscle = 1 pound of fat, duh!
But Joba looking bigger or weighing more doesn’t mean he is necessarily full of fat.
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Nope, the triple chins mean he’s full of fat.
# Chip February 16th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Ys Guy February 16th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
you guys and gals laugh all you want…
im buying all of chip’s joba stock, and all of concerned citizen’s
who else is selling joba, blake?
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I’m hoping the guy has a light’s out spring training and even start to the season – just makes him easier to trade.
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Great minds think alike
There is only one way that Joba will get past all of this, and that is if he pitches the way he is supposed to be able to pitch…then this nonsensical jabber will stop.
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Question: What is the news about Donald Trump and the Mets. Is he buying the team, a share or what. I don’t get the NY news and I couldn’t quite pick up on what you all were trying to say in the last thread. Thanks in advance.
Erin February 16th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
This needs a caption:
http://www.daylife.com/photo/0…..rk+Yankees
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Girardi: “Seriously, I just saw Joba eat a sub this big!”
Or:
Girardi: “Rise Sir Jorge, you are now a knight of the Round Table…”
Erin February 16th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
This needs a caption:
http://www.daylife.com/photo/0…..rk+Yankees
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“Hey, I didn’t like it when you took my job either…”
Side note-
I just told my client I will not be coming to their office tomorrow.
The Controller got such a grin on his face that I am having trouble not being offended
Or
Girardi: “Which hand is going to slap you?…place your bet.”
SAS February 16th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
There is only one way that Joba will get past all of this, and that is if he pitches the way he is supposed to be able to pitch…then this nonsensical jabber will stop.
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Question: What is the news about Donald Trump and the Mets. Is he buying the team, a share or what. I don’t get the NY news and I couldn’t quite pick up on what you all were trying to say in the last thread. Thanks in advance.
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Trump and Wilpon were rumored to be having a meeting to talk about buying a part of the Mets. Trump is only interested in a majority stake in the team.
Doreen-
I am glad there is no weekend GTLU. Those spontenous weekend games wreaked havoc on my participation percentage
I personally don’t care if Chamblain looks like the 2011 version of Mickey Lolich, as long as he pitches like him. I’d say that at age 24-25, he’s still got time to get it going. A shoulder injury can take a lot longer to heal than an elbow, if it does. I have time to wait until the season begins.
This BS is taking on the the Rodriguez/Cano/Jeter/Posada views. A need to blame one player for all faults. Sadly, some idiots haven’t figured out the the season doesn’t start for a month and a half.
Face,
You just had me confused for a second.
It’s funny but for all we’ve heard about Joba’s weight gain, I haven’t seen one good photo of him that shows it.
I think bulking up his upper body may help him. My half-baked theory is that his shoulder injury hurt his confidence in his shoulder more than it actually hurt his shoulder.
If he feels stronger? Good. Maybe that’s what he needs to mentally to open the throttle.
m February 16th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
I have no problem with the Yankees scolding Joba for being over reporting weight. They weren’t happy with Damon, either.
It’s like a non-story for me. Joba controls his own destiny.
Truth be told, Joba might work his way off the Yankees. And if he’s blocking talent, the Yankees should do the right thing. But we’re not there yet.
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I have said a number of times that I put his shelf life with the Yankees at 2 years.
Within that time I fully expect he will either be traded or at the end of it he will be non-tendered
i think we should bend the rules and let joba grow a nasty beard. he’s look like a bear out there.
Or
Girardi: “Do these pants make me look fat?”
It’s funny but for all we’ve heard about Joba’s weight gain, I haven’t seen one good photo of him that shows it.
I think bulking up his upper body may help him. My half-baked theory is that his shoulder injury hurt his confidence in his shoulder more than it actually hurt his shoulder.
If he feels stronger? Good. Maybe that’s what he needs mentally to open the throttle.
http://www.daylife.com/photo/0.....hamberlain
Joba doesn’t look ‘fat’ per say.
he looks ‘bigger’.
Bronx Jeers-
Did you see the back of today’s newsday?
http://www.newsday.com/print-e.....-1.1277203
GreenBeret7 February 16th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
I personally don’t care if Chamblain looks like the 2011 version of Mickey Lolich, as long as he pitches like him. I’d say that at age 24-25, he’s still got time to get it going. A shoulder injury can take a lot longer to heal than an elbow, if it does. I have time to wait until the season begins.
This BS is taking on the the Rodriguez/Cano/Jeter/Posada views. A need to blame one player for all faults. Sadly, some idiots haven’t figured out the the season doesn’t start for a month and a half.
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I’m not “blaming” Joba the Hutt for anything.
He’s a mop up middle reliever – no season has ever been made or broken by a guy who is going to pitch the 6th inning.
My point is that he shouldn’t be a lock for the team because his name is Joba Chamberlain and he was once a great prospect. He is the 11th or 12th man on the pitching staff right now and he should have to earn that spot this spring – if he doesn’t – if someone out performs him – then he should open the year in Scranton.
Thanks Chip
at 30 joba might be in the WWF
Erica -
It was too easy for me to do it on the weekend, but it’ll be just as easy NOT to do it! In fact, I might have a moratorium on this blog on the weekends once the season starts. No Lohud at all.
Tom in N.J. February 16th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
http://www.daylife.com/photo/0…..hamberlain
Joba doesn’t look ‘fat’ per say.
he looks ‘bigger’.
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I think he actually looks decent there.
And not to nitpick, but I think its “per se”
Nice job by Toronto signing Scotty Pods.
Here’s your Joba shot of the day
http://www.daylife.com/photo/0.....rk+Yankees
I didn’t think that Joba could be sent down after some time last season.
Joba looks good.
He’s a big guy but he doesn’t look fat just real thick. He’s got a big chest. He must have been lifting and shoulder pressing during the offseason.
Opps…sorry Tom
Joeman, World Wildlife fund? What classification?
Whether or not Joba reported at the weight the Yanks wanted is between Joba and the Yanks.
From a fan’s point of view, at least this fan’s point of view, I could care less what Joba weighs. As I said yesterday, he could be a blimp for all I care as long as he pitches well.
Nobody on the Yankees has said Chamberlain was being handed anything. If he doesn’t do the job, changes will be made.
# m February 16th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
I have no problem with the Yankees scolding Joba for being over reporting weight. They weren’t happy with Damon, either.
It’s like a non-story for me. Joba controls his own destiny.
Truth be told, Joba might work his way off the Yankees. And if he’s blocking talent, the Yankees should do the right thing. But we’re not there yet.
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I think they are past that point not only based on performance but also his status on the team
Doreen-
I can honestly say, I have no problem staying off this blog on weekends (Saturdays at work being the exception)
“And not to nitpick, but I think its “per se”
Erica,
The second I hit enter I knew it was a typo.
I really should know better, Iit’s not like I do teach grammar for a living or anything….
Ledger_Yankees Media card says Colon weighs 185. It doesn’t say that’s when he’s standing on the surface of the moon. #nyy
Doreen,
Thanks for GTLU. Since there are no weekend editions, I can spend that time setting my fantasy line-up
Tom in N.J. February 16th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
I really should know better, Iit’s not like I do teach grammar for a living or anything….
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Haha. Like I always say, “Accountants use calculators
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GreenBeret7 February 16th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Nobody on the Yankees has said Chamberlain was being handed anything. If he doesn’t do the job, changes will be made.
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Then we’re on the same page. I always get the warm and fuzzies when that happens.
Erin February 16th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
Ledger_Yankees Media card says Colon weighs 185. It doesn’t say that’s when he’s standing on the surface of the moon. #nyy
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LOL. I almost choked on a carrot reading that
Caption?
http://www.daylife.com/photo/0.....rk+Yankees
“Hey pitcher…new in town?”
I give up.
Long day…
From Larry Stone-Seattle Times:
“Just how close did Lee come to wearing pinstripes? I posed that question point-blank Tuesday to Yankees general manager Brian Cashman at their Legends Field spring complex.
“Oh, I had him,” Cashman replied. “The medicals didn’t work out, so they (the Mariners) jumped off, and Texas jumped in.”
The “medicals” to which Cashman referred involved Yankees second base prospect David Adams, who was having ankle issues. The Mariners didn’t like what they saw (rightly so, considering Adams was later determined to have a fracture).
Cashman said the Mariners asked for the deal — which originally was to have premier catching prospect Jesus Montero, Adams and pitcher Zach McAllister going to Seattle for Lee — reworked. The Yankees balked, and the Rangers swooped in, offering Justin Smoak as the centerpiece of their offer. No hard feelings, Cashman says now, though there were reports at the time in the New York media that the Yankees were miffed with Seattle.
“It is what it is,” Cashman said Tuesday. “You don’t have a deal until you officially have a deal. Our guy, Adams, didn’t pass the medicals. They went back to the original stuff I had been saying no to all along.”
According to reports out of New York, the Mariners wanted Adams replaced with infielder Eduardo Nuñez or pitcher Ivan Nova. Cashman continued to say no, and the Mariners wound up accepting Smoak, pitchers Blake Beavan and Josh Lueke, and infielder Matthew Lawson from the Rangers for Lee and Mark Lowe”.
I asked Cashman if, in retrospect, he felt he made the right decision in not yielding to the Mariners’ revised offer for Lee last July. He nodded.
“Especially since he went to Philadelphia,” he said. “Now I’m like, I got one of the premier hitting talents here, and I didn’t have a two-month rental.”
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....one16.html
Yankees got F. Hernandez
http://riveraveblues.com/2011/.....dez-43265/
# Bronx Jeers February 16th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
It’s funny but for all we’ve heard about Joba’s weight gain, I haven’t seen one good photo of him that shows it.
I think bulking up his upper body may help him. My half-baked theory is that his shoulder injury hurt his confidence in his shoulder more than it actually hurt his shoulder.
If he feels stronger? Good. Maybe that’s what he needs mentally to open the throttle.
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Totally agree with that. When you say you put a gym in your house immediately in my mind that means he wanted to improve his strength, not necessarily his fat/weight ratio. The shoulder injury could be the main reason, he wants to bulk up so that he can dial it back up to 99 without any physical concerns, which also will help with his confidence. In looking at that picture from Tom, to me, he looks like he gained a good 10-15 pounds of muscle in the upper chest/neck/shoulder area.
He has to see the Soriano move as a direct indictment on what management thinks of him.
Looking at the Yankee roster, a number of players are listed at 230 lbs.- AJ, Joba, Russell Martin, Alex, Andruw Jones. Everyone except Martin is between 6’1″ and 6’4″.
Not all 230 lbs are created equally.
Erica -
You’re at the beach at the crack o’dawn, playing scrabble and talking to the cabana boys. If you were on the blog on the weekends in the summer, there’s something wrong!
Erica in NY February 16th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
Erin February 16th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
Ledger_Yankees Media card says Colon weighs 185. It doesn’t say that’s when he’s standing on the surface of the moon. #nyy
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LOL. I almost choked on a carrot reading that
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Haven’t seen a picture but my initial reaction is the same as hearing Joba weighs 220 – both feet on the scale next time buddy.
CC has been quite a bit overweight for years. No has really said anything. No one would have said anything to CC if he came in this year at the same weight as last year, and he would have been fatter than Joba.
That’s because he pitches well.
If Joba pitches well, he’ll stop hearing the comments about his weight. It might not be fair, but that’s how it works.
Erica in NY February 16th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
LOL. I almost choked on a carrot reading that
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Erica-I burst out laughing (really loudly) and had several people demand to know what was so funny. I said it was a Yankee thing. They just rolled their eyes and went back to work. lol
LOL Chip! You just crashed RAB’s server.
http://www.daylife.com/photo/0.....rk+Yankees
I don’t see any significant weight gain at all.
Rothschild on the other hand….
No way AJ weighs 230, I don’t care if he 7′ tall
Doreen February 16th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
Erica -
You’re at the beach at the crack o’dawn, playing scrabble and talking to the cabana boys. If you were on the blog on the weekends in the summer, there’s something wrong!
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Hehehe.. you are right
I miss the beach!
(And you forgot body surfing and getting beat up by waves
)
Compliments of M:B-rumors-R-Us:
“•Larry Stone of The Seattle Times spoke to Yankees GM Brian Cashman about last summer’s near trade for Cliff Lee. Cashman said he’s glad he didn’t agree to Seattle’s revised offer after seeing Lee sign with Philadelphia. “Now I’m like, I’ve got one of the premier hitting talents here, and I didn’t have a two-month rental,” said the GM, referring to top prospect Jesus Montero.”
It appears from the photo above that much like Gandalf the Grey, Joba has fallen into shadow.
No worries. Once he defeats the Balrog, he’s going to come back stronger and more powerful than ever.
Erin February 16th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Erica in NY February 16th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
LOL. I almost choked on a carrot reading that
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Erica-I burst out laughing (really loudly) and had several people demand to know what was so funny. I said it was a Yankee thing. They just rolled their eyes and went back to work. lol
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Yeah, I got a rather strange look from the guy sitting across from me
joeman
I didn’t weigh him just reporting what they have him listed at.
http://yankees.mlb.com/team/ro.....p?c_id=nyy
# pat February 16th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
joeman
I didn’t weigh him just reporting what they have him listed at.
http://yankees.mlb.com/team/ro…..p?c_id=nyy
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understand…
G. Love February 16th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
It appears from the photo above that much like Gandalf the Grey, Joba has fallen into shadow.
No worries. Once he defeats the Balrog, he’s going to come back stronger and more powerful than ever.
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That has a familiar ring to it.
I don’t care if Joba weighs 300lbs as long as he pitches well.
http://riveraveblues.com/wp-co.....18e194.gif
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Cool gif showing the difference in framing pitches Cervelli vs Posada
# GreenBeret7 February 16th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
Compliments of M:B-rumors-R-Us:
“•Larry Stone of The Seattle Times spoke to Yankees GM Brian Cashman about last summer’s near trade for Cliff Lee. Cashman said he’s glad he didn’t agree to Seattle’s revised offer after seeing Lee sign with Philadelphia. “Now I’m like, I’ve got one of the premier hitting talents here, and I didn’t have a two-month rental,” said the GM, referring to top prospect Jesus Montero.”
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The M’s saved him
Jerkface February 16th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
http://riveraveblues.com/wp-co…..18e194.gif
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Cool gif showing the difference in framing pitches Cervelli vs Posada
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Wow! No wonder pitchers prefer Cervelli!
# Bronx Jeers February 16th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
http://www.daylife.com/photo/0…..rk+Yankees
I don’t see any significant weight gain at all.
Rothschild on the other hand….
Joba looks slimmer in the stomach area.
West Coast Yankee Fan February 16th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
LOL Chip! You just crashed RAB’s server.
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Serves them right for posting that on twitter
Ys,
If the stock is in relation to the other middle relievers in baseball then Im buying Joba stock…..and lots of it. Middle relievers suck in general.
Leaving the client to return to the office for Phase 2 of my Workday
Catch y’all later
I’m selling stock in him.
Against All Odds February 16th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
I’m selling stock in him.
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Never has so much been made about the 11th man on a 12 man pitching staff.
More from Girardi:
” Weight can be a tricky issue sometimes. You’re evaluated on how you pitch, and a lot of times, if you’re not pitching well, they’ll say you’re too heavy or you’re too light. If you’re pitching well, no one says a word. It’s the same guy. ”
Bronx Jeers February 16th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
More from Girardi:
” Weight can be a tricky issue sometimes. You’re evaluated on how you pitch, and a lot of times, if you’re not pitching well, they’ll say you’re too heavy or you’re too light. If you’re pitching well, no one says a word. It’s the same guy. ”
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As Joel Sherman pointed out – it’s a matter of trust and everything the Yankees have done since this time last year screams “we don’t trust this guy”
1. Move him out of the rotation
2. Split the 8th inning with him and Robertson
3. Bring in Kerry Wood
4. Not go near Joba in a big spot in the playoffs
5. Sign Raf Soriano
# Chip February 16th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Against All Odds February 16th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
I’m selling stock in him.
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Never has so much been made about the 11th man on a 12 man pitching staff.
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This could all end if they traded him.
I’m may be just guessing, but, no one here has seen Joba in person this year, and if he’s been working out, and put on muscle, then he could be heavier, yet strill in better shape.
Have you read what Chad said; “Of course, weight only matters in terms of being in shape. As I’ve written the past couple of days, the place Chamberlain is most noticeably bigger is through the chest and shoulders.”
Bigger in the chest and shoulders! That tells me Joba has been working out in his home gym, and I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt when he says he’s in better shape than before.
Is it just a fun thing to kick Joba about, or is it that it makes those that do feel better about themselves?
still … not strill
Against All Odds February 16th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
# Chip February 16th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Against All Odds February 16th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
I’m selling stock in him.
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Never has so much been made about the 11th man on a 12 man pitching staff.
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This could all end if they traded him
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Can’t trade him until he re-establishes some value.
you forget attempt a sign and trade for Balfour
Skinny pitchers are all the rage. We all know this.
Edwar Ramirez was awesome.
Fat pitchers are often more durable than skinnny ones.
# Chip February 16th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Against All Odds February 16th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
# Chip February 16th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Against All Odds February 16th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
I’m selling stock in him.
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Never has so much been made about the 11th man on a 12 man pitching staff.
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This could all end if they traded him
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Can’t trade him until he re-establishes some value.
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Hopefully he re-establishes that value over the early part of the season
rodg12 February 16th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
Skinny pitchers are all the rage. We all know this.
Edwar Ramirez was awesome.
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Look – if he was pitching well I would care less about his size – it’s the corolation that bugs me.
Joba’s stuff since he came up has regressed. His role has regressed. His gut has increased. Whether justified or not that suggests laziness and a poor work ethic on his part to outside observers.
Rich in NJ February 16th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
Fat pitchers are often more durable than skinnny ones.
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Fat pitchers also have their backs give out on them when you need them most in the World Series.
Joba’s stuff may have regressed, but it’s still league average or better. Factor in his age, and he still has upside.
I don’t remember David Wells being ripped about for those extra pounds he carried around.
Chip
I would sign the 2003 version of David Wells again right now.
New Post- Wednesday notes: Rivera travels, Jones arrives, Cotts leaves
“Joba’s stuff may have regressed, but it’s still league average or better. Factor in his age, and he still has upside.”
He’s probabaly one of the more.talented guys in baseball at his current role.
Rich in NJ February 16th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
Fat pitchers are often more durable than skinnny ones.
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Listen – I don’t need every ball player to be in Derek Jeter, A-Rod type of shape – CC Sabathia, David Wells – these are fantastic pitchers. Even Bartolo Colon had his run.
But the perception is the problem with Chamberlain.
We’re talking about a guy who went from being a can’t miss ACE to a middle reliever in the span of 3 years. And this winter – with giant holes in the rotation – the Yankees didn’t consider him an option. Nor did they consider him an option as the EIG setting up Rivera – you would like to see him respond a certain way but instead he just comes in and says that he’s fine with whatever and oh by the way he looks heavier than he’s ever been…that doesn’t show a competative spirit that really gives anyone the feeling he’s in this for more than a paycheck.
“Fat pitchers also have their backs give out on them when you need them most in the World Series.”
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Yeh, like that fat Roy Halladay guy. If he hadn’t so fat, his back might not have cost the Phillies the WS.