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Neal Cotts released

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 16, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The Yankees have their first spring training move.

Lefty reliever Neal Cotts has been released. The Yankees didn’t like the medical report after his physical on Monday. Cotts had some injury issues in the past, and Brian Cashman said the decision was 100 percent because of the physical, not because of anything the Yankees saw out of him.

Also from Cashman, the general manager was willing to say that Joba Chamberlain is heavier than last year, but he wouldn’t say how much heavier and wouldn’t comment on whether he’s out of shape. Cashman did say the Yankees were happy with Chamberlain’s bullpen this morning.

UPDATE, 1:07 p.m.: I’ll have more later. Joba wouldn’t go into detail about his weight, but said he’s in good shape and stronger than he can remember being. As I’ve written, he’s clearly bigger, but there’s no beer gut or anything.

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218 Responses to “Neal Cotts released”

  1. ac1 February 16th, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    Cashman is just extremely blunt now.

  2. ADam February 16th, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    Few.. at least Moose’s 35 will be held out of rotation for a little longer…. talking as a Moose jersey owner

  3. ac1 February 16th, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    i think 6,21 and 51 are going to be unworn.

  4. Tom in N.J. February 16th, 2011 at 12:22 pm

    The inventory is carrying more inventory

  5. blake February 16th, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    Joba may throw the heck out of the ball this spring but how he could show up to Tampa heavier is beyond me…..

  6. Mell February 16th, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    Bryan Hoch Cashman acknowledges Joba Chamberlain is “heavier” but wants to leave it at that. “He’s not the only one.”

  7. G. Love February 16th, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    SJ,

    As far as Pujols to the Cubs, they were saying the same things about Arod to Boston. Before he came to NY it was the only place mentioned Arod could be going and we all saw how that fell apart.

    Pujols doesn’t fit on the Yankees unless the Yankees decide they want his star power to cover them over the next 5 years as some of the older players fade into the sunset. Then they make him fit. You know that better than anyone.

  8. Tom in N.J. February 16th, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    What’s this about Gary Sanchez’s heart?

  9. Mell February 16th, 2011 at 12:28 pm

    “What’s this about Gary Sanchez’s heart?”

    They sent him to see a specialist. Doesn’t sound major. Maybe they caught a murmor or something during a physical.

  10. Mell February 16th, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    Weeks gets 5 years and $50M from the Brewers.

  11. Tom in N.J. February 16th, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    Thanks, Mell.

  12. BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    Erin February 16th, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    Ledger_Yankees Cashman refuses to talk much about Gary Sanchez, the prospect who underwent a heart exam, except to say he’s fine now. #nyyhttp://curiouscapitalist.blogs.time.com/2008/02/04/bush_promises_that_the_next_pr/
    ______________________
    Great–now we are going to have psuedo-doctors obsessing all day about this and discussing the “probable” diagnoses

  13. LGY February 16th, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    What’s this about Gary Sanchez’s heart?

    ***

    Joba ate it

  14. BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    Mell February 16th, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    Weeks gets 5 years and $50M from the Brewers.
    __________________
    That’s a lot of money for a Weeks work.

  15. Tom in N.J. February 16th, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    “Joba ate it”

    He must be taking this Native American warrior thing a little too seriously

  16. Erin February 16th, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    Great–now we are going to have psuedo-doctors obsessing all day about this and discussing the “probable” diagnoses

    **************************
    LOL

    I think CC sent all of his Cap’n Crunch to Joba’s house. ;)

  17. SJ44 February 16th, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    GLove,

    But they have that cover with a galaxy of stars.

    It’s not Arod is washed up and he’s still a ratings and drawing card machine.

    They will have to sign CC to a new deal. That’s the priority.

    Plus, let’s not throw Tex out the door. The guy is still a great player, off year and all.

    The need on or off the field isn’t there for Pujols at this time. It was for Arod when they brought him in.

  18. Pat M. February 16th, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    SJ…….Great point on the Cubs and Albert as it would be the biggest thing to hit the windy city since the days of Jordan…….As for weight requirements, in those days we were issued two weight mandates, the first was for when we had our physicals and then our playing weight for when camp broke……Bobby Cox was pretty laxed about it once the season started but I do recall Ron Bloomberg spending hours running in the afternoon sun after getting chewed out by Houk…….

  19. Ys Guy February 16th, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    i’m gonna start calling him Ja-Buddha!

  20. ac1 February 16th, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    SI_JonHeyman cardinals dewitt: “albert is an iconic player … we made every effort to extend his contract.” #albertgeddon
    ___

    doubt that. unless they offered something north of 8/224, which makes him the highest AAV.

  21. Ys Guy February 16th, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    jah-buddha, hey why not offend 2 religions at once!

    ok sorry it was a joke…

  22. blake February 16th, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    SJ,

    Fair points regarding the cubs.

  23. Erin February 16th, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    BryanHoch Life around the batting cage http://yfrog.com/h7rauskj

  24. BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 12:37 pm

    Wouldn’t it be ironic if Pujols hurt his knee and was out for season?

  25. BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 12:41 pm

    Pat M–what position did you play?

  26. BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 12:42 pm

    Erin February 16th, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    BryanHoch Life around the batting cage http://yfrog.com/h7rauskj
    ________________
    Tough life–being a reporter down in ST

  27. hardwired7 February 16th, 2011 at 12:42 pm

    It’s off to the Island of Misfit Yankees (aka the Pittsburgh Pirates) for Cotts.

  28. Erica in NY February 16th, 2011 at 12:42 pm

    Pat M. February 16th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
    Erica…..I was raked over the coals back in July 09 for mentioning that Joba was out of shape and carrying some added lbs as I watched him struggle vs. The Angels…….I just don’t understand how this guy is approaching the crossroads of his career and just doesn’t get into better condition…….It’s going to cost him and not only in terms of dough……Shame is he’s not maximizing his talent

    ****************

    Some players are out of shape and it doesn’t matter. Examples I can think of are CC and Prince Fielder (I know he lost weight, but he’s still not a “trim” guy).

    But its obvious to me that Joba is not one of those players. And would probably greatly benefit from losing weight.

    I just don’t understand it. I always joke that if you paid me to lose weight and make me a spokesperson for Jenny or WW or something, you can bet I’d do it

  29. Erin February 16th, 2011 at 12:42 pm

    Ledger_Yankees Thought that hit A. Jones in car this morning: “Wow, my manager is the catcher we played against.” in 96 Series #nyy

  30. Erica in NY February 16th, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    How is saying “He is heavier” blunt???

    Is Cashman supposed to sugarcoat that too???

    Do people not have eyes????????????????????????????????

  31. Bronx Jeers February 16th, 2011 at 12:44 pm

    Cardinals GM Mozeliak says no trade for Pujols will be considered.

  32. BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    Let’s remember that Joba was over 300 LBS back in high school…Weight may always be an issue he struggles with. It may be a psychological issue that he has to deal with or he may need a mentor like Clemens was to Shilling.

  33. Against All Odds February 16th, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    The St. Louis GM was asked about the similarities between this negotiation and the one the Yankees had with Jeter. He said and I’m paraphrasing: one difference is where both players are in their careers in terms of hitting the market but when you look at the impact Albert has on St. Louis it is similar to the one Jeter has with New York. Another difference is we aren’t going to use this in the media to make points or counter points…”That’s one big difference *smiles*”

    *media members laugh*

  34. Erin February 16th, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    hardwired7 February 16th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
    It?s off to the Island of Misfit Yankees (aka the Pittsburgh Pirates) for Cotts.

    **************************

    :lol:

    Now I’m going to have The Island of Misfit Toys song stuck in my head.

  35. Against All Odds February 16th, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    # BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    Let’s remember that Joba was over 300 LBS back in high school…Weight may always be an issue he struggles with. It may be a psychological issue that he has to deal with or he may need a mentor like Clemens was to Shilling.

    —————————-

    Damn you Clemens

  36. Ys Guy February 16th, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    Against All Odds February 16th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
    The St. Louis GM was asked about the similarities between this negotiation and the one the Yankees had with Jeter. He said and I’m paraphrasing: one difference is where both players are in their careers in terms of hitting the market but when you look at the impact Albert has on St. Louis it is similar to the one Jeter has with New York. Another difference is we aren’t going to use this in the media to make points or counter points…”That’s one big difference *smiles*”

    *media members laugh*

    ////

    only problem is that pujol’s agent has already shown that he is going to fight on all fronts. if the cards think they are going to be able to keep a lid on it for 10 months i think they have another think coming…

  37. Cashmoney February 16th, 2011 at 12:52 pm

    I don’t understand the obsession with Wockeez at this point. I take the Hutt at face value at this point. Firstable, he had pretty decent season as a mid-late reliever last yr. He may improve upon that or he may not. That’s the end of story for me. He presents value cuz he is cheap and still under team control and obviously has good enough stuff. At this point, I venture to say he is a infinitely replaceable piece with some value until proven otherwise.

  38. Pat M. February 16th, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    BoJo…….I was drafted as a SS and then moved over to 2nd because I threw too much side arm which led to a tailing movement into the runners going down the line……Funny thing is that from the hole I gunned it from the top and it drove Cox nuts……I didn’t have the pop to play 3rd long term though……Stormy weather here in LA so I’m going down to the beach to check out all the crazies surfing …..Later all

  39. Against All Odds February 16th, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    # Ys Guy February 16th, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    Against All Odds February 16th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
    The St. Louis GM was asked about the similarities between this negotiation and the one the Yankees had with Jeter. He said and I’m paraphrasing: one difference is where both players are in their careers in terms of hitting the market but when you look at the impact Albert has on St. Louis it is similar to the one Jeter has with New York. Another difference is we aren’t going to use this in the media to make points or counter points…”That’s one big difference *smiles*”

    *media members laugh*

    ////

    only problem is that pujol’s agent has already shown that he is going to fight on all fronts. if the cards think they are going to be able to keep a lid on it for 10 months i think they have another think coming…

    ————————-

    Yea it may be wishful thinking on their part

  40. Cashmoney February 16th, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    Or yes, Joba looks kind of big. I have no idea how it will effective his pitching positive or otherwise. Come to think it, nor do Cashman.

  41. Erica in NY February 16th, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    Ys Guy February 16th, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    only problem is that pujol’s agent has already shown that he is going to fight on all fronts. if the cards think they are going to be able to keep a lid on it for 10 months i think they have another think coming…

    ************

    Pujol’s agent is looking at a 10% commission of something in the 250-300m family. He is going to whip out every nasty trick in the book

  42. Against All Odds February 16th, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    # Against All Odds February 16th, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    # SJ44 February 16th, 2011 at 12:28 pm

    You don’t just get rid of him because the talent is there for him to be a very good pitcher.

    The challenge is getting it out of him.

    Dumping him would be foolish at this point because he is still under team control and you would be selling real low on him right now.

    ——————————————-

    Valid point but it’s clear they have no faith in him and if he keeps coming to camp in this shape what’s the point. Let him be some other teams problem

  43. Ys Guy February 16th, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    its pretty funny that the cards try to sell that this wont be in the media at a press conference to announce that they hevent met albert’s artificial deadline which had been announced to the media.

  44. GreenBeret7 February 16th, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    It took longer than I thought for some idiot from the media to drag the Yankees and Rodriguez into this, by asking if Rodriguez and Yankees damaged baseball.

  45. Ys Guy February 16th, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    if you are talking about pujol’s contract, the only thing you have to compare it to is arods. totally fair game, imo.

  46. Erica in NY February 16th, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    This front page of Newsday is one of the funniest I have ever seen. Mr. Met has never looked better

    http://www.newsday.com/print-e.....-1.1277189

  47. ac1 February 16th, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    it should be noted that regarding big contracts: Boston started with 8/160 for Manny and then Texas gave Alex 10/252. I hate how the media acts like it is solely the yankees bringing contracts up to this level.

  48. Erin February 16th, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    Ledger_Yankees “I feel good. I’m stronger.” – Joba, who wouldn’t give weight specifics though. #nyy

  49. ac1 February 16th, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    if you are talking about pujol’s contract, the only thing you have to compare it to is arods. totally fair game, imo.

    __

    compare YES, bring up the yankees ruining baseball argument. NO.

    You know who ruins baseball? Marlins, and that ilk, that pocket the money instead of spending it on their team. They need a floor more than a ceiling.

  50. Cashmoney February 16th, 2011 at 1:02 pm

    AoA, if Wockeez pitch well he will instill faith with Joe and the Yankees. If he doesn’t , he won’t.
    At some point, he will be thrust into a crucial situation in a game or games, If he shines there u go. Vice versa if he doesn’t. As far as the weight goes if he can pitch well with it if not a concern to me. Either way, u find out in 11.

  51. GreenBeret7 February 16th, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    Ys Guy February 16th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
    if you are talking about pujol’s contract, the only thing you have to compare it to is arods. totally fair game, imo.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Read all of it. What of “Did Yankees and Rodriguez damage baseball?” Why not ask if it was Texas that damaged baseball? Because the Rangers isn’t a story seller like the Yankees. At some time, fact needs to replace the hunt for a story.

  52. BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    Erica in NY February 16th, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    Pujol’s agent is looking at a 10% commission of something in the 250-300m family.
    +++++++++++++
    Nice family to be in.

  53. BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    As someone mentioned yesterday–how can Trump purchase the Mets if he owns casinos?

  54. Cashmoney February 16th, 2011 at 1:06 pm

    dunno Bojo, but i can tell your there is no sportsbook in AC legally.

  55. ac1 February 16th, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    Read all of it. What of “Did Yankees and Rodriguez damage baseball?” Why not ask if it was Texas that damaged baseball? Because the Rangers isn’t a story seller like the Yankees. At some time, fact needs to replace the hunt for a story.

    __

    Texas 1. Boston should not be left out either. Like i said, their 20 Million AAV to manny came before alex, jeter and the other big deals to follow.

  56. Erica in NY February 16th, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
    As someone mentioned yesterday–how can Trump purchase the Mets if he owns casinos?

    **************

    I also don’t know the details of the corporate structure or the exact rules. But its not like Trump is working the roulette table. I know the casinos operate with his name. But who knows how much of it is really under his control

  57. GreenBeret7 February 16th, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    Twxas, Boston. Two little weaklings trying to stand up against the town bullies, the Yankees.

  58. Against All Odds February 16th, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    # Cashmoney February 16th, 2011 at 1:02 pm

    AoA, if Wockeez pitch well he will instill faith with Joe and the Yankees. If he doesn’t , he won’t.
    At some point, he will be thrust into a crucial situation in a game or games, If he shines there u go. Vice versa if he doesn’t. As far as the weight goes if he can pitch well with it if not a concern to me. Either way, u find out in 11.

    ——————————-

    You made some points.

    I’m just frustrated with how this how thing has played out. I’m just tired of seeing him on the team. I will root for him though

  59. pat February 16th, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    “Pujol’s agent is looking at a 10% commission of something in the 250-300m family.”

    Probably less than half of that but still a nice chunk of change.

  60. West Coast Yankee Fan February 16th, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    In a democracy with a free press it’s critically important that the media continually challenges the powerful and digs for the truth. In the relatively unimportant world of sports the same is true. There is reporting and opinion and there are many media choices out there. No one forces anyone to read any journalist or publication in particular – one can always ignore anyone they don’t like. The press should make people uncomfortable – the Fourth Estate is an important foundation of our democracy.

  61. Ys Guy February 16th, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    its all hype, and its all good, gb. thats part of the reason you sign arod, so people talk about him and the Yankees.

    anheiser busch or adidas or dunkin donuts pay millions to have thier logo up there on the podium, but the subject becomes the Yankeees.

    thats branding of the best kind, the cards have to talk about the Yankees at thier press conference about albert pujols.

    its the reason george signed reggie. its the reason they traded for ruth.

    its the yankee’s way.

    .

  62. BIG AL February 16th, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    Phillies could be a dark horse for Pujols. Philly trades Howard for Pujols, and gives Pujols his extension. That would put Philly over the top.

  63. GreenBeret7 February 16th, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    Keep your half-assed attempts at giving history lessons to yourself. Go play with your plastic trees.

  64. Bronx Jeers February 16th, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    Government sanctioned gambling is OK.

    It’s when they don’t get their cut that it becomes a problem.

  65. ac1 February 16th, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    Phillies could be a dark horse for Pujols. Philly trades Howard for Pujols, and gives Pujols his extension. That would put Philly over the top.

    ___

    Cards and Albert have said there will be no trade.

  66. Joe from Long Island February 16th, 2011 at 1:18 pm

    Donald Trump would have to sell his stake in casinos in order to buy into a MLB team. From what the Times reported today, that’s not a big part of his holdings, so, if the deal was worth it, he could easily part with it. But, I have to think being a silent partner is not in Trump’s DNA. My guess is he would want a controlling stake in the team, ballpark, and a piece of SNY in order for the deal to make financial sense for him.

    Just my guessing, while I have lunch.

  67. GreenBeret7 February 16th, 2011 at 1:18 pm

    Talking about teams does not or should not mean placing blame where there is no blame. That’s the trouble with much of the media. They want to be the story instead of reporting it. There are exception (these guys here are exceptions). Fat assed Pete was part of the problem.

  68. Cashmoney February 16th, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    Gotcha AoA, a lot ppl r. Memories of his dominance in 07 and Pre injury 08 are still afresh in lot of Yankee fan’s mind as well as the media I think. But the it’s best to lower that expectation in lieu of 09 and 10 and treat Joba as he is now- a mid reliever with good stuff with potential to be better or worse.

  69. BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    GreenBeret7 February 16th, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    Keep your half-assed attempts at giving history lessons to yourself. Go play with your plastic trees.
    ++++++++++
    Another Radiohead reference?

  70. Dionysius Thelxinoe February 16th, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan says:
    February 16, 2011 at 1:12 pm
    In a democracy with a free press it’s critically important that the media continually challenges the powerful and digs for the truth. In the relatively unimportant world of sports the same is true. There is reporting and opinion and there are many media choices out there. No one forces anyone to read any journalist or publication in particular – one can always ignore anyone they don’t like. The press should make people uncomfortable – the Fourth Estate is an important foundation of our democracy.

    ————

    Weird and inappropriate for this blog. Unless you’re fishing for conflict from your soapbox, suggest some common sense.

  71. GreenBeret7 February 16th, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    Can’t see a difference between owning casinos and owning horse tracks and race horses.

  72. BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    I guess it really wouldn’t matter if Trump owned the Mets anyway…really, who would bet ON them?

    :-)

  73. West Coast Yankee Fan February 16th, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    That’s a shame you don’t appreciate a free press. All you do is complain about the media.

  74. Joe from Long Island February 16th, 2011 at 1:21 pm

    The only things GB wants free is beer and pizza.

  75. BIG AL February 16th, 2011 at 1:21 pm

    Yes, the Cards and Albert said no trade, but, if the Cards can get value now, not just draft picks, and Albert can get his $300M, they’d do it, regardless of what was said prior, this I believe.

    Albert would have to hope he had another great season, did not get injured, and the FA market would be able to pay his demands. Why risk it if it was offered now. If I were his manager, I’d tell him to jump on it.

  76. Dionysius Thelxinoe February 16th, 2011 at 1:22 pm

    Donald Trump would have to sell his stake in casinos in order to buy into a MLB team. From what the Times reported today, that’s not a big part of his holdings, so, if the deal was worth it, he could easily part with it. But, I have to think being a silent partner is not in Trump’s DNA. My guess is he would want a controlling stake in the team, ballpark, and a piece of SNY in order for the deal to make financial sense for him.

    ———

    Good call, joe

  77. pat February 16th, 2011 at 1:22 pm

    Dodgers take aim at Angels :smile:

    http://angels.ocregister.com/2.....els/73239/

  78. GreenBeret7 February 16th, 2011 at 1:23 pm

    Joe from Long Island February 16th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
    The only things GB wants free is beer and pizza.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    And there’s a problem with that? I have the twins and a lazy dog to support and feed.

    afternoon, Joe. How’s your weather?

  79. Dionysius Thelxinoe February 16th, 2011 at 1:24 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan says:
    February 16, 2011 at 1:20 pm
    That’s a shame you don’t appreciate a free press. All you do is complain about the media.

    ——-

    Too late

  80. Ys Guy February 16th, 2011 at 1:24 pm

    ollie perez, YOUR FIRED!!!

  81. Cashmoney February 16th, 2011 at 1:25 pm

    Sry Mr.Trump, my contract is guaranteed! pay me…

  82. Patrick February 16th, 2011 at 1:25 pm

    WCYF,

    Well that was out of left field. Who cares?

  83. Dionysius Thelxinoe February 16th, 2011 at 1:26 pm

    GreenBeret7 says:
    February 16, 2011 at 1:20 pm
    Can’t see a difference between owning casinos and owning horse tracks and race horses.

    ———

    Me neither. I’d be interested in selig’s answer on this, if it goes that far.

  84. BIG AL February 16th, 2011 at 1:26 pm

    Major sports are a joke when they say they don’t want casino owners owning a sports team, or be allowed to run ads during the Super Bowl, when they post all the odds in newspapers and the casinos, make teams in the NFL report all players conditions, when this is in place for the betting crowd. If A-Rod was not 100%, and had a nagging injury, the Yankees are not required to report this info. The NFL does it so the bookies can get the proper spread, a joke.

  85. Joe from Long Island February 16th, 2011 at 1:27 pm

    Good afternoon, GB – pretty good. It’s 40 degrees in my neck of things, with the sun out and shining. Finally getting the snow and ice off my roof. Supposed to be pushing 50 – or more – over the next few days.

    Going to have to get out the T-shirts and shorts soon. Not to mention the grill, of course. Steaks and burgers, here we come……

  86. West Coast Yankee Fan February 16th, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    DT given the preponderance of media bashing that goes on here it’s perfectly appropriate.

  87. BIG AL February 16th, 2011 at 1:31 pm

    It’s always the same blogger trying to start a fight, or create controversy that leads to an argument, then complains people are attacking him. Then out come his alter ego’s to take his side. You see this played out here every day, sick of his act.

  88. Against All Odds February 16th, 2011 at 1:33 pm

    # Cashmoney February 16th, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    Gotcha AoA, a lot ppl r. Memories of his dominance in 07 and Pre injury 08 are still afresh in lot of Yankee fan’s mind as well as the media I think. But the it’s best to lower that expectation in lieu of 09 and 10 and treat Joba as he is now- a mid reliever with good stuff with potential to be better or worse.

    —————————

    Yes many fans have said it’s best to lower expectations but I doubt I’ll be able too. I can seriously see me going berzesk in he gives up a hand full of runs in the middle of a game.

  89. Patrick February 16th, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    DT given the preponderance of media bashing that goes on here it’s perfectly appropriate.

    There’s a reason we bash the media that covers Baseball – most of them are morons (Chad not included)

  90. SAS February 16th, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    Donald Trump is not the only rich man in NY or elsewhere for that matter. He is one man, who is a billionaire that I cannot tolerate…then again I don’t like the Mets much.

  91. GreenBeret7 February 16th, 2011 at 1:38 pm

    Joe from Long Island February 16th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
    Good afternoon, GB – pretty good. It’s 40 degrees in my neck of things, with the sun out and shining. Finally getting the snow and ice off my roof. Supposed to be pushing 50 – or more – over the next few days.

    Going to have to get out the T-shirts and shorts soon. Not to mention the grill, of course. Steaks and burgers, here we come……

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Steaks and burgers? “Killer’s” mouth is watering. Mine is flooded. Nice to hear about the weather. Maybe NY has an April that gets above freezing for a change. T-shirts I can deal with, but, no shorts. My legs are fish belly white. They haven’t seen sunlight since I was 35 years old.

  92. Dionysius Thelxinoe February 16th, 2011 at 1:38 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan says:
    February 16, 2011 at 1:28 pm
    DT given the preponderance of media bashing that goes on here it’s perfectly appropriate.

    ———-

    As it relates to sports, sure. But you kinda went way beyond that, don’t you think?

    And for the record, I think the quality of sports reporting has plummeted with the advent of technological advances, to the level of supermarket tabloids.

    On the issue of steroids, as well as the lack of factual reporting on numerous instances, it’s the media which should be held accountable, imo.

  93. Mell February 16th, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    “I think the quality of sports reporting has plummeted with the advent of technological advances, to the level of supermarket tabloids”

    Ain’t limited to sports reporting.

  94. West Coast Yankee Fan February 16th, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    I think the free market does hold the media accountable don’t you?

  95. Ys Guy February 16th, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    i think trump has just the right cheesy quality to be a met’s owner…

  96. ac1 February 16th, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    AndrewMarchand Source: Yanks won’t look into Pujols.
    ___

    Guess we can move to the next topic. Anyone hear about this Joba Chamberlain guy and whether he should be starting or relieving?

  97. West Coast Yankee Fan February 16th, 2011 at 1:42 pm

    Al I post about what interests me. If you or anyone else doesn’t want to discuss sports media don’t. Why the angst, ignore my posts. You create issues by talking about it. I’m interested in the media and sports media in particular and have my perspective. Thanks for sharing yours.

  98. GreenBeret7 February 16th, 2011 at 1:43 pm

    When the talk was floating around about the future of the Yankees after GMS, I never thought the family would take on the challenge, and hoped that Trump would take it on.

  99. Dionysius Thelxinoe February 16th, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan says:
    February 16, 2011 at 1:39 pm
    I think the free market does hold the media accountable don’t you?

    ————-

    No.

    Last time I looked, Selena Roberts was still in the business.

    Among other things.

  100. Tom in N.J. February 16th, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    Most of the media is profit driven. Meaning what sells is more important than what’s important…

  101. Patrick February 16th, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    WCYF,

    I’m interested in Scarlett Johansson but I don’t post about her… because this is a baseball blog.

  102. Mell February 16th, 2011 at 1:46 pm

    “Last time I looked, Selena Roberts was still in the business”

    How’d her book sell?

  103. BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 1:47 pm

    I actually would love to see Trump buy the Mets. It would take the competition in NY up a notch, and make both teams better. We might even get to see some more subway series.

  104. GreenBeret7 February 16th, 2011 at 1:47 pm

    PA bought 10 autographed copies of the book.

  105. Dionysius Thelxinoe February 16th, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    Personally, I would LOVE to see The Donald as owner of the Mets.

    That team has nowhere to go but up, and their current owners should just go away. I have a feeling the vast majority of Mets fans feel the same way, from what I’ve heard and read.

  106. Betsy February 16th, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    Hmm..

    http://twitter.com/BryanHoch
    Cashman acknowledges Joba Chamberlain is “heavier” but wants to leave it at that. “He’s not the only one.”
    5 minutes ago via txt

  107. Against All Odds February 16th, 2011 at 1:50 pm

    # ac1 February 16th, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    AndrewMarchand Source: Yanks won’t look into Pujols.
    ___

    Guess we can move to the next topic. Anyone hear about this Joba Chamberlain guy and whether he should be starting or relieving?

    —————————

    Who’s Joba Chamberlain

  108. Bronx Jeers February 16th, 2011 at 1:50 pm

    I’m totally cool if anyone wants to discuss voluptuous actresses.

  109. murphydog February 16th, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    I have to say that Trump having a controlling interest in the Mets sounds just perfect to me. His ego and his need for ceaseless self-promotion rival only that of Kim Kardashian. Must admit she has bigger … hair than The Donald.

    The Mets aren’t going to play good baseball anytime soon so why not turn the franchise into a circus? I’d go to a Mets game if Donald owned them. He’d pimp CitiField out like a casino. It would be like bizarro Yankee Stadium

  110. GreenBeret7 February 16th, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    Imagine how much viewing Ivana Trump and Cupcake Trump in the owner’s box would spruce up the park.

  111. Betsy February 16th, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    Chip, I saw your post from the Post this AM. Pretty funny that any pitcher – Joba, AJ, anyone, can be throwing the heck out of the ball. Talk about hyperbole.

  112. CCBiggs February 16th, 2011 at 1:53 pm

    No beer gut??? Joba had a beer gut last year!

  113. ac1 February 16th, 2011 at 1:53 pm

    Who’s Joba Chamberlain

    __

    Apparently some fat guy that seems irritate Brian Cashman.

  114. Dionysius Thelxinoe February 16th, 2011 at 1:53 pm

    What is there about this town that attracts people like the Dolans and the Wilpons, and in the past CBS and Michael Burke?

    Thank God for George M Steinbrenner. I hope his offspring have half of his moxie and drive. To hell with his grievous errors and suspensions, he is the sole reason this team is where it is, and as financially sound as they come.

  115. ac1 February 16th, 2011 at 1:54 pm

    Ledger_Yankees Joe Girardi says Joba has had no issues with workouts so far, despite his weight. #nyy

    ___

    I cannot believe how much attention has been paid to his weight. They say he is overweight, but not necessarily fatter, so maybe he built some muscle. Maybe Girardi needs to get them into a workout program in ST.

  116. Chip February 16th, 2011 at 1:55 pm

    Betsy February 16th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
    Chip, I saw your post from the Post this AM. Pretty funny that any pitcher – Joba, AJ, anyone, can be throwing the heck out of the ball. Talk about hyperbole.

    ——————

    It’s like the saying at football camps that everyone looks like a probowler in shorts. It’s the pads that separate the players from the non players.

  117. Ys Guy February 16th, 2011 at 1:55 pm

    murphydog February 16th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
    I have to say that Trump having a controlling interest in the Mets sounds just perfect to me. His ego and his need for ceaseless self-promotion rival only that of Kim Kardashian. Must admit she has bigger … hair than The Donald.

    The Mets aren’t going to play good baseball anytime soon so why not turn the franchise into a circus? I’d go to a Mets game if Donald owned them. He’d pimp CitiField out like a casino. It would be like bizarro Yankee Stadium

    /////

    agreed, its perfect!

  118. Dionysius Thelxinoe February 16th, 2011 at 1:56 pm

    I don’t care how much Joba weighs. I care only that he becomes a lot more reliable than he was last season.

  119. Mell February 16th, 2011 at 1:56 pm

    “Ledger_Yankees Joe Girardi says Joba has had no issues with workouts so far, despite his weight. #nyy”

    $100 says that the “despite his weight” portion of that tweet was not uttered by Girardi.

  120. Against All Odds February 16th, 2011 at 1:57 pm

    # ac1 February 16th, 2011 at 1:53 pm

    Who’s Joba Chamberlain

    __

    Apparently some fat guy that seems irritate Brian Cashman.

    ————————

    Interesting *nods* He sounds like a guy to keep an eye on

  121. ac1 February 16th, 2011 at 1:57 pm

    yeah that doesnt sound like Girardi haha.

  122. Betsy February 16th, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    Cash doesn’t sound thrilled that other players are overweight- there’s really no excuse for that, no matter who the players are.

  123. GreenBeret7 February 16th, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    Compliments of MLB-Rumors-R-Us:

    “•The Yankees signed righty reliever Fernando Hernandez, tweets Eddy. The 26-year-old pitched in three games with the 2008 A’s as a Rule 5 Pick, though he spent last year with their Triple-A affiliate (4.77 ERA in 77 1/3 innings).”

  124. Ys Guy February 16th, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    jah-buddha!

    god bless!

  125. Dionysius Thelxinoe February 16th, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    murphydog,

    The Mets aren’t going to play good baseball anytime soon so why not turn the franchise into a circus? I’d go to a Mets game if Donald owned them. He’d pimp CitiField out like a casino. It would be like bizarro Yankee Stadium

    ———-

    :lol:

  126. Betsy February 16th, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    I didn’t know Sanchez had a heart issue……..well, let’s just hope Montero turns into what he’s supposed to (and that Sanchez is ok- well, that comes first)

  127. Cashmoney February 16th, 2011 at 1:59 pm

    I go with Steve Wynn Murph. u get bigger everything.

  128. Tom in N.J. February 16th, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    Dude:

    http://voices.washingtonpost.c.....acked.html

  129. Erica in NY February 16th, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    murphydog February 16th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
    I have to say that Trump having a controlling interest in the Mets sounds just perfect to me. His ego and his need for ceaseless self-promotion rival only that of Kim Kardashian. Must admit she has bigger … hair than The Donald.

    ************

    Whatever your thoughts on the Donald are, the guy has managed to stay a relevant part of the conversation for almost 30 years in almost everything he does. The Mets however…. cannot say the same

  130. Mell February 16th, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    “I didn’t know Sanchez had a heart issue”

    That’s a pretty big leap, Betsy. He was seen by a heart specialist and declared by Cashman to be fine. That doesn’t translate into a heart issue.

  131. Chip February 16th, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    murphydog February 16th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
    I have to say that Trump having a controlling interest in the Mets sounds just perfect to me. His ego and his need for ceaseless self-promotion rival only that of Kim Kardashian. Must admit she has bigger … hair than The Donald.

    The Mets aren’t going to play good baseball anytime soon so why not turn the franchise into a circus? I’d go to a Mets game if Donald owned them. He’d pimp CitiField out like a casino. It would be like bizarro Yankee Stadium

    ——————–

    There’s no way that MLB would approve Donald Trump as a majority owner. Forget everything else – his connection with gambling would be all Selig would need to shut him out.

  132. Betsy February 16th, 2011 at 2:03 pm

    Mell, you’re kidding….talk about picking nits.

  133. Cashmoney February 16th, 2011 at 2:03 pm

    Chip, they share the same hairstylist. take that into consideration.

  134. brownies February 16th, 2011 at 2:03 pm

    I can’t believe cashman believes he shouldn’t have brought in a lefty like justin ducherer or any other starting pitcher who is a lefty given the fact that bostons lineup power is again..like in 04..primarily from the left side. He better correct this before we fall to many games behind boston. We need CC, who will be pitching for a better deal for himself, and at least 1 more.

  135. Bronx Jeers February 16th, 2011 at 2:05 pm

    Selig vs. Trump would be a pretty good good battle in terms of hairpieces.

  136. Ys Guy February 16th, 2011 at 2:07 pm

    fat joba strikes out roger bernadina (who they traded to the phillies) in the 11th to win 2011 WS game 7.

  137. BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    The New York Trumps….has a ring to it, no?

  138. Dionysius Thelxinoe February 16th, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    Bronx Jeers says:
    February 16, 2011 at 2:05 pm
    Selig vs. Trump would be a pretty good good battle in terms of hairpieces.

    ———-

    Reminded me of the day I found out Capt. Kirk wore a rug. Man, was that a downer!

  139. BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    Come out to Trump Field to root for the Trumps!

  140. Chip February 16th, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    Cashmoney February 16th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
    Chip, they share the same hairstylist. take that into consideration.

    ——————-

    good point.

    I wonder if they would look to fill the role of GM by holding an “Apprentice” show for it.

  141. Chip February 16th, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
    The New York Trumps….has a ring to it, no?

    ———–

    no. not really

  142. BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 2:13 pm

    Chip February 16th, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
    The New York Trumps….has a ring to it, no?

    ———–

    no. not really
    ___________________
    You’re just not hearing it though Trump’s ears.

  143. Ys Guy February 16th, 2011 at 2:14 pm

    Meet the Trumps, meet the Trumps,
    Step right up and greet the Trumps!

  144. BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 2:16 pm

    Ys Guy February 16th, 2011 at 2:14 pm

    Meet the Trumps, meet the Trumps,
    Step right up and greet the Trumps!
    ______________________
    Close–but to better approximate the rhyme of Meet and Mets…perhaps it would be:

    Hump the Trumps, hump the Trumps.
    Step right up and hump the Trumps.

  145. Bronx Jeers February 16th, 2011 at 2:17 pm

    What? Kirk wore a rug ?

    Next you’ll be telling me that Zulu was gay.

  146. ac1 February 16th, 2011 at 2:18 pm

    From what i read, there is a chance Gary Sanchez is the catcher of the future. By then, Montero may be able to move to first base, as Tex’s contract will start getting toward the back end.

  147. BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    Bronx Jeers February 16th, 2011 at 2:17 pm

    What? Kirk wore a rug ?

    Next you’ll be telling me that Zulu was gay.
    ________________
    SPOILER ALERT!

  148. GreenBeret7 February 16th, 2011 at 2:20 pm

    Dionysius Thelxinoe February 16th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
    What is there about this town that attracts people like the Dolans and the Wilpons, and in the past CBS and Michael Burke?

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    I thought that Mike Burke was the perfect choice to run the Yamkees during the CBS years. He was a war hero and president/GM of Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus. Is there a better choice?

  149. ac1 February 16th, 2011 at 2:21 pm

    http://hardballtalk.nbcsports......d-50-games

    ____

    You mean he didn’t get a free pass because he was a Red Sox?

  150. Chip February 16th, 2011 at 2:21 pm

    Bronx Jeers February 16th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
    What? Kirk wore a rug ?

    Next you’ll be telling me that Zulu was gay.

    —————-

    Sulu, not Zulu

  151. Ys Guy February 16th, 2011 at 2:22 pm

    i just looked up “meet the mets” on wikipedia and there’s this note at the bottom:

    “A Twist On The Song
    After a poor 2009 and 2010 seasons, a spin was put on the song stating “Come right out and beat the Mets!” Prior to the orginal lyric being “Come right out and meet the Mets!”

    for as long as i can remember i used to sing it:

    meet the mets, greet the mets,
    step right up and beat the mets”

  152. Chip February 16th, 2011 at 2:25 pm

    So with Neal Cotts out of the mix for a AAA rotation spot that does open the door for a couple of scenarios:

    1. Someone who was currently blocked and stuck at AA (Wilkin Arias) could move up

    2. Joba could go down and Romulo Sanchez could wind up with the big boys

    3. Something else entirely

    This is all quite unimportant but the Hump the Trumps thing had me desperate for another direction.

  153. West Coast Yankee Fan February 16th, 2011 at 2:25 pm

    Patrick February 16th, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    WCYF, I’m interested in Scarlett Johansson but I don’t post about her… because this is a baseball blog.

    **********

    Patrick, surely you are kidding right? Need I recap for you the almost endless non-baseball conversations that take place here. Battleships, buying cars, chicken recipes, hiking, I could go on forever.

    I have zero problem with it, but to suggest that my commenting on sports media is somehow less relevant to a baseball blog….come on.

  154. murphydog February 16th, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    Chip:

    “There?s no way that MLB would approve Donald Trump as a majority owner. Forget everything else ? his connection with gambling would be all Selig would need to shut him out.”

    You give up too easily. Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

  155. Ys Guy February 16th, 2011 at 2:29 pm

    speaking of ‘fight songs” how lame is THIS:

    “Y! A! N! K! E! E! S!
    Here come the Yankees
    Let’s get behind and cheer the Yankees
    They’re gonna learn to fear the Yankees
    Everyone knows they play to win, cause
    They’re the New York Yankees”

    i really didnt know that had lyrics!
    at least Meet the Mets has a bridge (which has lyrics, too!)

  156. Chip February 16th, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    murphydog February 16th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
    Chip:

    “There?s no way that MLB would approve Donald Trump as a majority owner. Forget everything else ? his connection with gambling would be all Selig would need to shut him out.”

    You give up too easily. Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

    ———————

    I’ll let it go – you’re rolling.

  157. m February 16th, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    Joba is not going to Scranton.

  158. murphydog February 16th, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    Welcome to Trump’s Flushing Casino and Baseball Stadium. Motto: “At least in the Casino you win occasionally.”

  159. Patrick February 16th, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    WCYF,

    Interesting that your original post doesn’t mention sports a single time. It was you opining on a topic completely unrelated to the current discussion and completely unrelated to the Yankees.

    Troll much?

  160. Joe from Long Island February 16th, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    You give up too easily. Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

    Now that put a smile on my face. Just what I needed today. Been a rough one.

  161. Cashmoney February 16th, 2011 at 2:33 pm

    lol

  162. Against All Odds February 16th, 2011 at 2:33 pm

    # m February 16th, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    Joba is not going to Scranton.

    ——————–

    So what Cashman said was just a scare tactic

  163. murphydog February 16th, 2011 at 2:35 pm

    Picture it: Trump Hairpiece Day at CitiField, every fan 50 and older gets one.
    Instructions: Glue it down, comb it over.

    Or, how about they cover the rain tarp with waterproof red Trump Fur?

    Maybe the uniforms can be made out of sharkskin
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharkskin

  164. Shame Spencer February 16th, 2011 at 2:36 pm

    Mr. Trump isn’t buying the Mets…

    My guess? This is just a nice way to stir himself up some publicity before ‘The “Celebrity” Apprentice’ starts up again.

  165. m February 16th, 2011 at 2:37 pm

    First of all, what’s with the option thing? I thought Joba’s had expired?

    Second, he said all the guys with options, not just Joba, could be sent down.

    Third, Joba would really have to suck to be demoted from middle inning relief. I don’t see that happening.

  166. Ys Guy February 16th, 2011 at 2:38 pm

    im putting in a huge BUY order on joba stock today.
    whoever’s selling, i’m buying.

  167. Yanksgal07 February 16th, 2011 at 2:39 pm

    I regards to Mike Burke he was also President of the Knicks & Rangers. I worked with him at the Garden during his time there. The Garden had seats directly behind the Yankee dugout and he would let me use them when they weren’t needed for clients. I could literally put my drink on the dugout. I was quite young at the time so needless to say it was exciting. He knew I was a huge Yankee fan and was very kind to me with the seats. He was definitely a gentleman and a great dresser. The only time in all the years he ever raised his voice was at Don King the fight promoter who came to hold the Executive offices hostage regarding one of the fights.

    Those were fun times at the Garden which was more like a country club than work especially working in the Executive Offices. While I was there Gulf & Western were owners. I loved it but once I had my daughter being a stay at home Mom was more important to me.

    Anyway …back to baseballl …I can’t wait for the season to start …

    Go Yankees 2011 !!!

  168. BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    Ys Guy February 16th, 2011 at 2:38 pm

    im putting in a huge BUY order on joba stock today.
    whoever’s selling, i’m buying
    ___________________
    I know a guy named Madoff who can get you in on the ground floor for as much as you want to buy.

  169. Ys Guy February 16th, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    trump buys the mets and as part of a push for ratings, installs tracy morgan as gm and hershel walker as manager.

  170. West Coast Yankee Fan February 16th, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    Patrick February 16th, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    WCYF, Interesting that your original post doesn’t mention sports a single time. It was you opining on a topic completely unrelated to the current discussion and completely unrelated to the Yankees. Troll much?

    *******************

    Patrick, interesting that you don’t read very well. Like perpetuating arguments?

    GreenBeret7 February 16th, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    It took longer than I thought for some idiot from the media to drag the Yankees and Rodriguez into this, by asking if Rodriguez and Yankees damaged baseball.

  171. BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    Michael Burke was quite the war hero. An amazing history, and the man responsible for GMS buying the team.

  172. murphydog February 16th, 2011 at 2:43 pm

    Mike Burke was also a spy if I recall correctly. On the right side of course. CIA, OSS.

  173. Ys Guy February 16th, 2011 at 2:43 pm

    burke had no idea what he had a hold of.

    but george did.

  174. Cashmoney February 16th, 2011 at 2:43 pm

    Ivanka led ‘steel maidens’ cheer leading squad.
    If any mets hits a double, you get 1.5 refund back on your ticket.

  175. Patrick February 16th, 2011 at 2:45 pm

    Patrick, interesting that you don’t read very well. Like perpetuating arguments?

    You are right, there is one mention of sports. I have to admit, I struggle reading your posts; everytime I try I feel my IQ drop a few points every sentence.

  176. LGY February 16th, 2011 at 2:45 pm

    WC

    The problem with your posts today compared to other off topic ones is that you have once again brought politics onto this blog.

    No one cares about your views in democracy and free media.

  177. Jerkface February 16th, 2011 at 2:46 pm

    M,

    Joba has at the very least 2 options remaining, if not all of them. You only burn an option when you are placed on the 40 man roster and then spend 20 days in the minors during a season. Joba was put on the 40 man and immediately activated in 2007 and has not spent a single day in the minors since. Thus, he has options remaining.

    Once he reaches 5 years of service time he can refuse assignment.

  178. Ys Guy February 16th, 2011 at 2:46 pm

    and of course Mr T roams the stands in place of mr met.

    I PITY THE FOOL!

  179. Bronx Jeers February 16th, 2011 at 2:47 pm

    Yeah it’s weird for someone to mention how the Yankees and Alex Rodriguez are portrayed on a Yankee blog.

  180. GreenBeret7 February 16th, 2011 at 2:47 pm

    Murph, Burke was Wild Bill donavon’s right hand man in Eastern Europe working for the OSS during WWII, parachuting into Yugoslavia to meet with Tito and his partisans. he also trained Moe Berg on a couple of mission to put a hit on either Hitler or a couple of scientists working on the German A-Bomb.

  181. murphydog February 16th, 2011 at 2:51 pm

    GB7:

    I knew I liked Burke. Too bad he didn’t know how to run a ballclub.

    Or maybe it was a CIA plot – run the yankees into the ground to get back at J. Edgar Hoover? ;)

  182. BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 2:52 pm

    Moe Berg hit on Hitler? I didn’t know he swung that way.

  183. GreenBeret7 February 16th, 2011 at 2:52 pm

    Burke knew exactly what the Yankees were. His problem was money. He couldn’t get the backing to purchase them from Paley. That’s why he brought the Steinbrenner group in. Burke left the Steinbrenner group because of Steinbrenner. He was pretty much offered the presidency, but, GMS over rode him. So he sold his shares to Steinbrenner.

  184. Chip February 16th, 2011 at 2:53 pm

    Patrick February 16th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
    Patrick, interesting that you don’t read very well. Like perpetuating arguments?

    You are right, there is one mention of sports. I have to admit, I struggle reading your posts; everytime I try I feel my IQ drop a few points every sentence.

    —————-

    This isn’t my fight nor do I want it to be (I get in enough trouble on my own). But who appointed you (or anyone else) the arbitor of what people can and cannot discuss on this blog?

    If people are having a conversation about something you’re not interested in, scroll by it. It doesn’t hurt you at all. It isn’t as if a pair of hands will launch forward from your screen, grab you by the collar and say “NO!!!! YOU MUST READ WHAT IS WRITTEN AND PAY ATTENTION TO IT”

    Seriously – relax. If a couple of folks want to talk about the virtues of goldfish vs. combos so be it – doesn’t stop you from having a separate conversation about who the fifth starter for the Charleston RiverDogs should be.

  185. BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 2:53 pm

    murphydog February 16th, 2011 at 2:51 pm

    GB7:

    I knew I liked Burke. Too bad he didn’t know how to run a ballclub.

    Or maybe it was a CIA plot – run the yankees into the ground to get back at J. Edgar Hoover?
    __________________
    Of course!!! No one would have been expecting that!

  186. murphydog February 16th, 2011 at 2:53 pm

    “The problem with your posts today compared to other off topic ones is that you have once again brought politics onto this blog.”

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Auditioning for hall monitor again this season?

  187. Chip February 16th, 2011 at 2:54 pm

    LGY February 16th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
    WC

    The problem with your posts today compared to other off topic ones is that you have once again brought politics onto this blog.

    No one cares about your views in democracy and free media.

    —————–

    And perhaps even fewer people care about your views regarding WCYF’s views – point is you still are well within your rights to express them…why should that right only extend to you and not to everyone who posts here?

  188. Joe from Long Island February 16th, 2011 at 2:54 pm

    Yanksgal07 – great story about Mike Burke.

    He was part of OSS, I read some great stories of his exploits in WWII. He was a real war hero.

  189. Ys Guy February 16th, 2011 at 2:54 pm

    whatever the reason, the yankees were a shambles and were sold for pennies on the dollar compared to thier brand value.

  190. Patrick February 16th, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    Chip where did I say WCYF couldn’t post whatever he wants? I just said “Who cares?” because really, nobody cares about him or his political views

  191. Chip February 16th, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    murphydog February 16th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
    “The problem with your posts today compared to other off topic ones is that you have once again brought politics onto this blog.”

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Auditioning for hall monitor again this season?

    ——————-

    There are few people I find more pathetic than people who post on a blog trying to tell other posters what they can and cannot discuss.

  192. m February 16th, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    Jerkface,

    I understand he has options, I just thought that with the amount of service time he and Hughes have they would have to pass through waivers. I should said it that way.

  193. Tom in N.J. February 16th, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    I remember reading that Selig was given “first dibs” in buying the Yankees.

    He turned it down because he thought NYC was dying and so were the Yanks.

  194. BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 2:58 pm

    Chip February 16th, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    There are few people I find more pathetic than people who post on a blog trying to tell other posters what they can and cannot discuss.
    _______________
    Touvhy subject? Sounds like you have a shoulder on your chip…

    (Okay, I was trying to think of a way to work that in for a day now, and this seems like the best opportunity to do so)… ;-)

  195. Chip February 16th, 2011 at 3:00 pm

    Patrick February 16th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
    Chip where did I say WCYF couldn’t post whatever he wants? I just said “Who cares?” because really, nobody cares about him or his political views

    ——————

    Well right – but why spend the time arguing about it then? Why not just ignore it and move on if you don’t care?

    There’s a conversation ongoing about Michael Burke – I could not phathom caring less about it than I currently do – I find nothing wrong with people talking about it though and I don’t feel the need to tell the people talking about it that I don’t care about what they’re talking about…I just scroll on until I find something I do want to respond to.

    I’m just suggesting that as an alternative to the p*ssing and moaning that is all over the place.

  196. ac1 February 16th, 2011 at 3:00 pm

    mlbtraderumors RT @Ken_Rosenthal: Source: #Cardinals’ offer would have given Pujols about 10th-highest salary in game. Likely translates to $19M-$21M per.
    __

    Pujols may just take up with the Cubs out of the insult of a deal that would be that much less than others that pale to him.

  197. Chip February 16th, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
    Chip February 16th, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    There are few people I find more pathetic than people who post on a blog trying to tell other posters what they can and cannot discuss.
    _______________
    Touvhy subject? Sounds like you have a shoulder on your chip…

    (Okay, I was trying to think of a way to work that in for a day now, and this seems like the best opportunity to do so)…
    ———————-

    You are the master of the awful pun.

  198. Patrick February 16th, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    Well right – but why spend the time arguing about it then? Why not just ignore it and move on if you don’t care?

    If nobody cares about WCYF’s posts and even less people care about me telling him I don’t care, then even LESS people don’t care about you complaining about me telling WCYF nobody cares. Got it?

  199. GreenBeret7 February 16th, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    Murph was handling a dying franchise. Never understood why CBS ran the team into the ground like it did. Paley had to know that it needed some help, but, that it was a potential gold mine. The player draft though really hurt NYYs. When they lost out on the bidding for Rich Reichardt to the Angels in ’64, that was the start of the end.

    By the way, a movie based on some of Burke’s exploits was done back around ’46 or ’47 with Gary Cooper, “Cloak And Dagger”. Not a bad movie.

  200. Triple Short of a Cycle February 16th, 2011 at 3:02 pm

    I prefer goldfish over combos

  201. BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    Chip February 16th, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    You are the master of the awful pun.
    ________________
    Eh, it’s a living.

    :-)

  202. LGY February 16th, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    Chip

    Save the crap that I am trying to dictate what people post. I could not care less unless it crosses the line into politics.

    It is an uncomfortable topic that has no place here and a topic which many on this blog have stated should not be part on the conversation.

    There are million places on the internet for people to talk politics.

  203. m February 16th, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    Tabasco Cheezits

  204. Tom in N.J. February 16th, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    Chocolate covered pretzels

  205. BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    GB7–

    I downloaded and watched Cloakd and Dagger yesterday based on your mentioning it. Pretty decent.

    Actually, though, Wikipedia states that Burke only helped write it in a consulting role, and the movie was not actually based on anything he did. He was just there to inform the director of what could happen to give the film more realism.

  206. Erica in NY February 16th, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    Chex Mix

  207. GreenBeret7 February 16th, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    Murph was handling a dying franchise

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Sorry, Murph. You weren’t handling a dying franchise. Burke was.

  208. pat February 16th, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    More interested in why a 19 year old was having cardiac testing than whether someone has found Joba a Weight Watchers meeting in Tampa.

  209. Cashmoney February 16th, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    Sugar Bear cereal > Captain Crunch

  210. Chip February 16th, 2011 at 3:09 pm

    LGY February 16th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
    Chip

    Save the crap that I am trying to dictate what people post. I could not care less unless it crosses the line into politics.

    It is an uncomfortable topic that has no place here and a topic which many on this blog have stated should not be part on the conversation.

    There are million places on the internet for people to talk politics.
    —————————

    And there are a million places on the internet for people to talk sports. If you do not like the way a conversation here is going you are free to visit one of those until the conversation turns back to something you’re more comfortable with.

    But in my opinion, unless it is your blog and you are the site administrator your opinion of what should and shouldn’t be discussed (politics or other) carries no more weight than mine or WCYF or anyone else’s.

  211. Triple Short of a Cycle February 16th, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    Erica in NY,

    Are you a granola head?

  212. Erica in NY February 16th, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    new thread :arrow:

  213. hardwired7 February 16th, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    I don’t get the Cards’ stance on this.

    They don’t have that much committed beyond this season, and Pujols has consistently been paid way under mkt value.

    Pay the man already!

    Sheesh.

  214. Bronx Jeers February 16th, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    We are nearing that elusive “triple whine” paradox that I have coveted for so long.

  215. West Coast Yankee Fan February 16th, 2011 at 3:12 pm

    You mean baseball posts like this one?

    ***************

    GreenBeret7 February 16th, 2011 at 2:47 pm

    Murph, Burke was Wild Bill donavon’s right hand man in Eastern Europe working for the OSS during WWII, parachuting into Yugoslavia to meet with Tito and his partisans. he also trained Moe Berg on a couple of mission to put a hit on either Hitler or a couple of scientists working on the German A-Bomb.

  216. GreenBeret7 February 16th, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    BoJo February 16th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
    GB7–

    I downloaded and watched Cloakd and Dagger yesterday based on your mentioning it. Pretty decent.

    Actually, though, Wikipedia states that Burke only helped write it in a consulting role, and the movie was not actually based on anything he did. He was just there to inform the director of what could happen to give the film more realism.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Parts of it was, according to Burke. Burke had a small part on screen but it was cut, as was this reel containing this”

    “As planned by Lang, the film had a different ending. Cooper lead a group of American paratroopers into Southern Germany to discover the remains of an underground factory, the bodies of dead concentration camp workers and evidence the factory was working on nuclear weapons. Cooper remarks that the factory may have been relocated to Spain or Argentina and launched a diatribe saying This is the Year One of the Atomic Age and God help us if we think we can keep this secret from the World![1] Producer Milton Sperling who had frequently quarreled with Lang on the set thought the final scene ridiculous as the audience knew the Germans had no nuclear capacity.”

  217. Chip February 16th, 2011 at 3:22 pm

    Patrick February 16th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
    Well right – but why spend the time arguing about it then? Why not just ignore it and move on if you don’t care?

    If nobody cares about WCYF’s posts and even less people care about me telling him I don’t care, then even LESS people don’t care about you complaining about me telling WCYF nobody cares. Got it?

    ———

    stop whining

  218. Dionysius Thelxinoe February 16th, 2011 at 3:52 pm

    BoJo says:
    February 16, 2011 at 2:42 pm
    Michael Burke was quite the war hero. An amazing history, and the man responsible for GMS buying the team.

    ———–

    BoJo, very interesting tidbit. I wasn’t aware he had any connection to George buying the team. What qS his role?

    As for Burke, I was commenting on his ability, or lack thereof, in running a baseball team. He does have his accomplishments in other endeavors.

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