Colon: “The problem’s not the weight, it’s the arm”
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 18, 2011 
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We’re officially in some sort of Camp Weight Watchers down here in Tampa. CC Sabathia lost weight, Joba Chamberlain gained weight, and Bartolo Colon is a big man even on his lighter days.
Today, Colon said he weighs 267 pounds. He’d like to get down to 250. Thing is, Colon said he’s weighed at least 250 every year since 2002. That’s a stretch that includes his worst years and his Cy Young year.
“The problem’s not the weight, it’s the arm,” he said.
Colon has his own training routine this spring. I suppose you could argue that it’s because of his size, but frankly it’s not especially unusual for a 37-year-old to do something different from a 27-year-old in spring training. Colon said the heaviest he’s ever pitched was at 278 pounds, which was way back during his days in Cleveland, when he was in his 20s and probably destroying clubhouse spreads with Sabathia.
“I feel really good right now the way I am,” he said. “But I feel like I need to go down with my weight a little bit more.”
Associated Press photo
As long as he feels good.
repost from the last thread.
Not sure if this has been posted but The Rangers are giving Neftali Feliz a shot at making the rotation
http://sports.espn.go.com/dall…..id=6135477
interesting Michelle. Feliz would be more valuable as a starter I would guess.
The NBA and the game will benefit greatly from having two competitive teams in New York City. Brooklyn will be a great home and I would never underestimate the wealth and determination of Mikhail Prokhorov who is reportedly worth $18 billion dollars.
“The NBA and the game will benefit greatly from having two competitive teams in New York City. Brooklyn will be a great home and I would never underestimate the wealth and determination of Mikhail Prokhorov who is reportedly worth $18 billion dollars.”
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Neither the Knicks or Nets will be competitive if Melo goes to NJ.
They will be battling each other out for a 6-8 seed the next 2 years to both get bounced in round 1 of the playoffs.
Later!
When did the Knicks become competitive?
Did I blink and miss something?
I think Prokhorov has a longer term perspective, like the Nationals do. You can’t build a winner overnight. Superstars often draw others.
Is that Mo “laughing with him” back there?
“I think Prokhorov has a longer term perspective, like the Nationals do. You can’t build a winner overnight. Superstars often draw others.”
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The next superstars to hit the market in the NBA are Paul, Deron, and Howard 1.5 years from now.
So, then you would have the Nets out of the playoffs this year and Knicks probably bounced in the first round. Then in 2012 those two getting ng into the playoffs as bottom dwellers and not getting past the first. Finally, in 2013 you have those two competing to draw that 2nd superstar to the team with no guarantee either team would be able to get Paul, Deron, or Howard.
If Melo goes to the Nets, the NBA would be hoping in 2013 those teams are competitive. Neither as currently constructed would be.
LGY,
Why do you say that? The Knicks could sign Paul and Howard. They would actually be better off with Stat,Paul and Howard then Stat,Melo and Paul
“My weight isn’t the reason I can’t get people out, it’s my rag arm. Thank God there’s a Brian Cashman out there who can’t manage to come up with something better than me.” — Bartolo Colon’s thoughts.
Triple,
The Knicks would have to gut the roster to fit 3 max contracts and then I am not even sure that will be possible.
Also, how likely is it that Paul and Howard would sign with the Knicks?
Complain much?
LGY,
Getting Paul here wouldn’t be an issue but Howard is a different story. Not saying they could pull it off but they would be better off with that threesome then the Melo one
Didn’t Colon leave the Red Sox to go to the DR and then decide to stay?
Anybody who quits the Sox can’t be bad in my book. I’m pulling for him.
Anthony, speaking Friday in Los Angeles, said “no meeting at all” is scheduled with the Nets. Calling it “news to me,” Anthony said: “If I was to meet with that guy (Prokhorov) to be honest I really don’t know what I would say.”
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-.....id=6133683
“# West Coast Yankee Fan February 18th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
The NBA and the game will benefit greatly from having two competitive teams in New York City. Brooklyn will be a great home and I would never underestimate the wealth and determination of Mikhail Prokhorov who is reportedly worth $18 billion dollars.
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I agree. The NBA has way more bandwagon fans/ or fans of individual players so I don’t buy the claim that the Nets won’t ever be the main attraction….they start competing for ECF and Jay Z and all the others will flock to Brooklyn
And I hope Howard stays in Orlando. Despite what ESPN tells you, he seems happy in Orlando and ownership has had them competing for a Title the last 4 years….I know a few people that know him personally and he’s not an egomaniac like Lebron and it’s a lot easier to get future free agents to sign in Orlando vs Cleveland, and w/ the new Arena(105 straight sellouts) the Magic are making and spending money
The last thing NY needs is a basketball team called The New York Commies
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT
HAPPY BIRTHDAY DOREEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope you have a wonderful birthday
Triple,
Yeah I agree that would be better in a vacuum, but they would have to wait 1.5 years for that.
That would have Amare 2 years older and cost them 2 playoff runs.
Happy Birthday, Doreen. I hope you get a new car and a year’s worth of peace on this board. Best wishes on your 21st Birthday.
Happy birthday Doreen
Hey Aldo–long time no see.
Happy BDay Doreen!
Interesting comment from Texas pitching coach about Feliz moving to starter:
“If you are faced with that decision, would you rather have 70 innings out of your No. 1 guy or 200 innings? It’s kind of a no-brainer to me,” Maddux said. “He’s got to throw three pitches for strikes and get the ball down in the zone. He has the God-given talent to excel more than other guys who can do the same thing.”
Hmmmm–what an interesting way to look at it.
Happy B-day Doreen. Nice timing, as it leads off a three day weekend. Enjoy!
Smart move for Texas to try Feliz in the rotation……would have been smarter if they had signed Soriano.
And Happy Birthday Doreen!
Doreen – I didn’t realize it was your birthday. Have a great one.
Good name GB7 The New York Commies I like it!
BoJo,
Of course its a no brainer. All you have to do is look at the free agent market and see how much a number 1 starter goes for compared to a closer. Unlike the idiots on the FAN who thought Joba was more valuable as a reliever.
Remember all relievers are failed starters even Rivera
LGY,
I agree but even if they got Melo now they would still have to wait for 1 of the 2 point guards since Felton would prob go in the deal and they would need a big man. Just having Melo and Stat is not enough to get past the Heat or Celtics in the playoffs
The Nets are giving up 4 first round picks……that’s a lot.
Happy Birthday Doreen
“Just having Melo and Stat is not enough to get past the Heat or Celtics in the playoffs”
Not the Bulls either.
“The Nets are giving up 4 first round picks……that’s a lot.”
Yeah it is. I’d guess at least a couple of them are lottery protected, but that’s still quite a lot.
I doubt Carmello will sign the extension with the Nets.
Stat, Melo, and Billups can beat the Bulls.
The Knicks have already beat the Bulls twice this year.
Happy Birthday Doreen !!!!!
I think Melo will tell the Nets that he won’t be signing any extension…and he will be a Knick. Probably as a FA.
it’s a lot to give up but it’s a good PR move to get more excitement around that franchise
LGY…..The Bulls will be a very tough team to deal with come April…….Knicks didn’t face the true Bulls team…….
If I were Carmello then I wouldn’t want to join a gutted team with no draft picks……
“# BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
I think Melo will tell the Nets that he won’t be signing any extension…and he will be a Knick. Probably as a FA.
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he would be risking losing over $20 mil if the did that b/c the CBA this summer
Anyone care for another trivia question?
I think Melo will wait this thing out until the Nuggets accept a lesser deal with the Knicks ……one in which they would still have a good core of players to compete with.
Tampayank–
Apparently, he has said he is willing to do that. Probably a bargaining stance….
Once Nets and Lakers drop out of contention, Knicks can offer very little on dollar and get him. Denver will have no where to turn. So Carmello is forcing the deal to go to Knicks for less players than Denver wants.
That’s called leverage. The only thing Denver can do is hold him out of spite so they both lose.
Amare and Melo have both carried teams to the Western Conference Finals. Billups is also a playoff tested PG.
With those 3 and if the Knicks can get a big man to bash on the boards like Dalembert (who might get bought out) they will be really tough in the playoffs.
I’ve watched Colon play roulette here in Vegas and he was drinking Lite Beer. I had to chuckle because when you see him up close the man has no neck. He was with his wife and he is a very quiet unassuming soul. I hope he bounces back and contributes. It would put a fitting end to an up & down career.
Happy Birthday Doreen
Many happy returns.
No Neck Williams had no neck…Colon is the man of a thousand chins.
I doubt Colon makes the team…..he’s worth a look but I doubt he makes it.
“The Knicks have already beat the Bulls twice this year.”
That was two months ago. Bulls a much better club now and the Knicks a little worse. In a series that matters, I’ll take the team that has a good point guard and can play defense.
“I think Melo will wait this thing out until the Nuggets accept a lesser deal with the Knicks”
Knicks package is such crap that I think they’d hold him, make the playoffs this year and watch him go to free agency.
Happy Birthday Doreen!!
Mell,
Gallo and Fields are hardly crap
Mell
Billups is not a good PG?
# Mell February 18th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
“I think Melo will wait this thing out until the Nuggets accept a lesser deal with the Knicks”
Knicks package is such crap that I think they’d hold him, make the playoffs this year and watch him go to free agency.
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The Knicks package isn’t crap.
“Gallo and Fields are hardly crap”
Knicks aren’t offering them.
BryanHoch Pedro Feliciano is wearing No. 31, which Javier Vazquez had last year. His friends in Puerto Rico told him to “get rid of the voodoo.”
the Bulls have impressed me, Rose is very fun to watch……the Eastern Conference will be fun to watch down the stretch w/ Boston, Miami, Orlando, Chicago, and even maybe Atlanta in the mix……I wonder if the older legs of the Celtics finally give in during the postseason, I hope so
Mell,
I think the Nuggets will deal him to the Knicks before they lose him.for nothing and the Knicks will probably sweeten the offer before its over……
“Billups is not a good PG?”
He’d get eaten up by Rondo or Rose, but he’s pretty good, yeah.
Isn’t Joey Gallo an attorney from Brooklyn? Made a name for himself by getting his cousin and a friend off of a murder rap in Alabama some years ago?
Happy Birthday Doreen! I hope your special day ends up much better than it started.
Blake:
I think if their best offer is centered around Chandler, then Denver has no real reason to pull the trigger.
Happy birthday to you….happy birthday to youuuu….. happy birthday…dear Doreeeennnnnn….happy birthday to you !!!
GreenBeret7 February 18th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Isn?t Joey Gallo an attorney from Brooklyn? Made a name for himself by getting his cousin and a friend off of a murder rap in Alabama some years ago?
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Goldstein has his top 11 Yankee prospects today. Montero, Banuelos, Sanchez, and Betances all 5 stars.
http://www.baseballprospectus......leid=12988
If Doreen wants, I can sing it an octave higher too…
Mell,
Yea but I’m not sure the Knicks have made their final offer….I think they know he wants to come there and they are just biding there time hoping that they can get him at the lowest price possible, which would occur right before the deadline when the Nuggets have to make a decision on whether to trade him for something or lose him for nothing.
Blake:
Was going to read that thru, but I forgot my bleepin password at BP. Waiting for it via e-mail. I do see he salivates over Montero’s bat but doesn’t seem to like his chances at making it at C despite his best efforts.
Erin February 18th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
GreenBeret7 February 18th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Isn?t Joey Gallo an attorney from Brooklyn? Made a name for himself by getting his cousin and a friend off of a murder rap in Alabama some years ago?
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Marisa Tome made that movie a lot funnier than it should have been.
Joey Gallo is dead. Joey Callo…with a ‘C’.
Mell,
Yea that seems to be the typical take. I’m anxious to see where he is catching wise this spring, he doesn’t have to be Yadier Molina to give the Yankees huge positional advantages….Piliere seems to be one of the only guys out there that believes he can stick as a catcher.
Marisa Tomei.. saw her in the movie, Cyrus, Damn she is still smokin hot.
GreenBeret7 February 18th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
Marisa Tome made that movie a lot funnier than it should have been.
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GB, I love that movie. Marisa is great in it.
I actually quote that movie all the time.
I don’t have a BP subscription I just read the rankings and what you can see without one.
New Post- Friday notes: All flat ground for Soriano and Rivera
best quotes in the movie”
“Vinny Gambini: What about these pants I got on? You think they’re okay?
Mona Lisa Vito: Imagine you’re a deer. You’re prancing along. You get thirsty. You spot a little brook. You put your little deer lips down to the cool, clear water – BAM. A effin’ bullet rips off part of your head. Your brains are lying on the ground in little bloody pieces. Now I ask ya, would you give a f*** what kind of pants the sob who shot you was wearing?”
” Vinny Gambini: Your Honor, may I have permission to treat Ms. Vito as a hostile witness?
Mona Lisa Vito: You think I’m hostile now, wait ’til you see me tonight.
Judge Chamberlain Haller: Do you two know each other?
Vinny Gambini: Yeah, she’s my fiancée.
Judge Chamberlain Haller: Well, that would certainly explain the hostility.”
The roster pamphlet they’re giving out at the stadium lists Colon as weighing 185. One guy commented that must be from his high school years. I also didn’t realize how tall Montero is, they have him listed as 6’4. The closest to him is Posada at 6’2.
For those who look at my pictures, on sunday they will have all 3 fields open. Who and what do you want me to get pictures and video of? Its kind of overwhelming the amount that goes on at one time between the bullpen, the main fiels and the 2 fields on the sides of the stadium. so if I have a goal of things to focus on then I can allocate my time better.
It’s a total joke. The Yankee roster and spring training invitees are a total bunch of out of shape fat boys. Once they get the money they don’t give a crap. CC is a joke and his weight issues will catch up with him big time. The Arod contract will be the biggest joke in sports history as he ages. Jeter as well will prove to be an over the hill gang club member. Are any of you looking at this mess through anything other then rose colored glasses. The will get out hustled at every turn and the pitching staff is a total joke. It would be nice if Tex could earn his keep for each month he gets paid not just June July and Aug.