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Friday morning notes: Individual attention

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Feb 18, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

When Joba Chamberlain finished his morning bullpen, Chamberlain walked into the tunnel that leads back to the Yankees clubhouse, and pitching coach Larry Rothschild focused all of his attention on Ivan Nova, the only pitcher still in the bullpen.

Rothschild stood in the batter’s box — not squared up to the plate, but close enough to somewhat resemble a hitter — while bullpen coach Mike Harkey and Triple-A pitching coach Scott Aldred watched near the mound. Organizational pitching guru Billy Connors watched from a bench on the side of the pen.

That’s the point of these early sessions. Most spring training bullpens happen with four or five guys throwing at once. Rothschild said the early sessions are specifically designed so that he spend more one-on-one time with individual pitchers.

“We’re going to filter the guys through,” he said.

Nova’s first spring bullpen was in a group. Today he got the individual attention.

Rothschild said the Yankees will do the same with batting practice after position players report this weekend.

• Chamberlain is already mixing all of his pitches. Considering it’s still the first week of camp, the Yankees seem to have more guys  than usual who have already moved past fastballs. I remember Dave Robertson spinning a few curveballs two days ago. Phil Hughes is already mixing all of his pitches. Some of the minor league guys were facing hitters at the minor league complex before big league camp opened.

• Speaking of Hughes, he also did his work early this morning, but he did it after Chamberlain and Nova. I have no idea what Hughes did this morning, but he walked into the clubhouse just before it closed and was drenched in sweat. He clearly did more than a routine bullpen.

• Brett Gardner is not listed in today’s hitting groups. Looks like he won’t be here today. I’m guessing he’ll be back tomorrow when the other position players show up.

• Bullpen assignments:

Group 1
Dellin Betances (to Jesus Montero)
Pedro Feliciano (to Gustavo Molina)
Dave Robertson (to Russell Martin)
Andy Sisco (to Austin Romine)
Manny Banuelos (to Kyle Higashioka)

Group 2
Brian Anderson (to Francisco Cervelli)
Andrew Brackman (to Jose Gil)
Romulo Sanchez (to Gustavo Molina)
Daniel Turpen (to Kyle Higashioka)
Steve Garrison (to Jesus Monter0)

Group 3
D.J. Mitchell (to Austin Romine)
David Phelps (to Roman Rodriguez)
Adam Warren (to Francisco Cervelli)
Eric Wordekemper (to Jose Gil)

• Same hitting groups as usual, except without Gardner

Group 1: Gil, Higashioka, Montero and Romine

Group 2: Martin, Cervelli, Molina and Posada

Associated Press photo of Rothschild and A.J. Burnett after an early morning bullpen earlier this week

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373 Responses to “Friday morning notes: Individual attention”

  1. Giuseppe Franco February 18th, 2011 at 10:46 am

    Maybe Granderson threw a water balloon at Hughes. He was looking for someone to prank the other day.

  2. tyanksfan36 February 18th, 2011 at 10:46 am

    Rivera is chatting up Soriano right now. I wonder what they’re talking about.

  3. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 10:46 am

    “Chamberlain is already mixing all of his pitches”

    Oh I have a good feeling about this. Maybe Dave Eiland’s personal situation was taking too much of his psychic energy and maybe he dropped the ball last season – or for a few seasons, depending on what he was dealing with.

    But I just have such a good feeling about Larry Rotschild. YAHOO!!!!!

  4. Bronx Jeers February 18th, 2011 at 10:46 am

    8 more days for live baseball.

    Sat Feb 26

    vs PHI
    1:05 PM
    YES / MLBN

    A must win game as far as I’m concerned. :wink:

  5. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 10:47 am

    Rothschild. Give him the respect he is due.

    :)

  6. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 10:48 am

    “A must win game as far as I’m concerned. ;)

    :lol:

  7. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 10:49 am

    Too bad JR Murphy did not get an invite. Would have liked to see him get exposure to camp. But I read a prospect report on him last night that was not all that favorable if he can’t catch. Not sure how Yankees feel about him.

  8. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 10:50 am

    Chad–

    Did Joba get the same scrutiny as Nova–with 4 coaches?

  9. Joe from Long Island February 18th, 2011 at 10:51 am

    tyanksfan36 – I wish I was there. Very envious. Hopefully, next year.

    Doreen – sorry to hear about your car saga. My brother-in-law used to sell cars, and these guys are not the most moral people. Anything goes.

  10. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 10:51 am

    Geeze Mel, you’re not very tolerant are you? No topic seems to make you happy!

    Well try this. Name the 8 most prosperous franchises in major league baseball. They don’t have to be in any order. (It was a Cash Cab question. I wrote down the answer)

    Anyone else who wants to try it out, including Chad!

    ************

    Erica, how much per mile for business travel? Thanks!

  11. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 10:52 am

    There are some interesting stories in that Group 2 today.

  12. Erica in NY February 18th, 2011 at 10:53 am

    Trisha-

    The rate for current 2011 travel is .51 for business
    The rate for your 2010 taxes would be .50

  13. upstate kate February 18th, 2011 at 10:54 am

    Trisha
    I will play
    Yankees, Mets, Red Sox, both Chicago teams, Angels, Phillies

  14. Chad Jennings February 18th, 2011 at 10:55 am

    BoJo, I got down there just as Chamberlain was wrapping up his session, but I believe Rothschild has been focusing his attention one pitcher at a time during all of these early sessions, so I can’t imagine Chamberlain was any different.

  15. Erica in NY February 18th, 2011 at 10:55 am

    Trisha-

    Funny story, a few years ago a client asked me that question and without thinking I gave the current rate I was getting at work.

    The client then goes “Ummm… I think its a lot higher than that”.

    I told him I needed to have a talk with HR when I got back to the office.

    But for years it was a joke in my firm because we got .32 and the actual federal rate was .40+. Since we are accountants its kind of an embarrassment

  16. upstate kate February 18th, 2011 at 10:55 am

    oops, can’t count, that was only 7…St Louis too

  17. blake February 18th, 2011 at 10:56 am

    Here is a non weight related question about Joba…….if he’s not going to be a dominant fastball/slider guy (and I guess he still could be), should he consider using all of his pitches again even in a relief role?

  18. Ys Guy February 18th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    yanks, socks, mets, phils, dodgers, cubbies, cardinals, angels. hard to define ‘most prosperous’

  19. NJ Pete February 18th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    Doreen – been following your car purchase these many weeks. I had asked you about the CRV but decided to stay with a sedan. I looked at the Jetta but after seeing how long it was taking you to get the car you wanted I decided to lease another Accord. I spent an hour at the dealer during lunch yesterday to hammer out the details and an hour after work to sign the papers. I pick up the car after work tonight. I’m not trying to rub it in or anything but I just can’t believe how easy it was to get the Honda.

  20. comet February 18th, 2011 at 10:58 am

    Anyone know what games will be on WCBS?

  21. Chip February 18th, 2011 at 10:58 am

    BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 10:49 am
    Too bad JR Murphy did not get an invite. Would have liked to see him get exposure to camp. But I read a prospect report on him last night that was not all that favorable if he can’t catch. Not sure how Yankees feel about him.

    ——————-

    I think there are only so many spots to go around – plus they need catchers for the minor league camp.

  22. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 10:58 am

    8 most prosperous?

    Yankees
    Red Sox
    Cubs
    Dodgers
    Angels
    Mets
    White Sox
    ?

  23. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 10:59 am

    Wow, we’re going from 56 degrees today to 31 degrees on Tuesday. Ca-razy New England weather!!!

  24. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 10:59 am

    Either Phillies or Mariners?

  25. BIG AL February 18th, 2011 at 11:00 am

    Trisha -

    Yankees, Red Sox, Mets, Angels, Cubs, Braves, Indians, Dodgers

    How close am I?

  26. Chip February 18th, 2011 at 11:00 am

    Well try this. Name the 8 most prosperous franchises in major league baseball. They don’t have to be in any order. (It was a Cash Cab question. I wrote down the answer)

    ———————–

    1. Yankees
    2. Red Sox
    3. Twins
    4. Angels
    5. Mets
    6. Pirates
    7. Marlins
    8. Phillies

    just random guesses based partially on the fact that the Marlins and Pirates have tiny payrolls and get a ton of Revenue Sharing dollars.

  27. Fran the original February 18th, 2011 at 11:01 am

    Trisha,

    I know it’s Dallas for football :)

    Baseball- Yanks, Mets, Red Sox, White Sox, Cubs, Cardinals, Rangers

  28. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 11:01 am

    Erica – :lol:

  29. Fran the original February 18th, 2011 at 11:02 am

    Trisha, #8 Angels

  30. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 11:02 am

    Do we have to wait for Doreen to set up a web site in order to get the answer?

    :-)

  31. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 11:03 am

    Nobody has gotten it entirely right yet.

    Wait a minute because I have to go back a few threads and make sure I worded the question correctly.

    :D

  32. Mell February 18th, 2011 at 11:04 am

    “Geeze Mel, you’re not very tolerant are you? No topic seems to make you happy!”

    Not tolerant? I’ll have you know some of my best friends are crazy ass bloggers who’ll spend a day arguing over off topic stuff such as the appropriate use of it’s vs. its.

    Plenty of topics I’m happy to get involved in, including your question. I’d guess the Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs, Phillies, Dodgers, Mets, Angels and Cardinals.

  33. BIG AL February 18th, 2011 at 11:05 am

    Trisha -

    I’ve got to go in a minute, just want to see how close I came.

  34. upstate kate February 18th, 2011 at 11:06 am

    hi Comet :)

  35. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 11:06 am

    Okay I hope this didn’t throw anyone off. If so, try again. If not, keep guessing!

    Name the 8 most valuable franchises in major league baseball.

  36. Mell February 18th, 2011 at 11:06 am

    “Too bad JR Murphy did not get an invite. Would have liked to see him get exposure to camp. But I read a prospect report on him last night that was not all that favorable if he can’t catch. Not sure how Yankees feel about him”

    Am I right in remembering that he only started catching in his senior year in high school? Looks like he only caught 50 or so games last year, so maybe they feel he just isn’t ready for it yet.

  37. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 11:06 am

    In 5 minutes I will post the answer. I hope you can wait it out Big Al!

  38. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 11:07 am

    Based on some of the answers others put up, let me try
    (7 of my original 8)
    Yankees
    Mets
    Dodgers
    Angels
    Red Sox
    Cubs
    Phillies
    ————————
    Cardinals (forgot about them)

  39. Mell February 18th, 2011 at 11:07 am

    “Name the 8 most valuable franchises in major league baseball”

    I’m sticking with my same answer. Yankees, Boston, Cubs, Mets, Dodgers, Angels, Cardinals and Phillies.

  40. Tom in N.J. February 18th, 2011 at 11:08 am

    Yanks
    Red sox
    Mets
    Dodgers
    Angels
    Cubs
    Phills
    Cards?

  41. Doreen February 18th, 2011 at 11:08 am

    Y’s Guy -

    I remember you warned me.

    NJ Pete -

    If I had take a care off their lot, or was willing to settle for a color other than the one I preferred, or if I had wanted the more expensive options, I would have had the car either that day or 2 days later. The problem is the color I wanted with the options I wanted was not in anyone’s inventory and I had to wait for a shipment.

    I fully understood that “special ordering” a car is a little inconvenient, but I wanted what I wanted, so I was okay with a 2-3 week wait. When the weather here in the NE was brutal, I actually built into the wait time and didn’t start getting impatient until about a week ago.

    What ticks me off is not the waiting, but that no one contact me in the interim AND when I did contact my salesperson, I got no response at all.

    I’m sure if I bought the CRV I would have had it the same day, but again, only if I took what was on the lot and when I asked if I could order a particular color, the salesman practically laughed at me. NO special orders at Honda. You get what decide the roll out of the assembly line at any particular time.

  42. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 11:09 am

    Mell February 18th, 2011 at 11:06 am

    “Too bad JR Murphy did not get an invite. Would have liked to see him get exposure to camp. But I read a prospect report on him last night that was not all that favorable if he can’t catch. Not sure how Yankees feel about him”

    Am I right in remembering that he only started catching in his senior year in high school? Looks like he only caught 50 or so games last year, so maybe they feel he just isn’t ready for it yet.
    ______________
    Yes–

    Let me post the article that reviewed him:

    http://scoutingthesally.com/ga.....k-yankees/

  43. Doreen February 18th, 2011 at 11:10 am

    Back to baseball:

    I think Rochschild is the Pitching Coach version of Kevin Long. And that seems to work out very well for the players.

    The Yankees seem to have a very clear idea of what they want their coaches to be like, also to some extent their players.

  44. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 11:11 am

    Hint – there is one team that nobody has named. You are all very close.

    Another hint – the Angels is not one of the teams on the list

  45. BIG AL February 18th, 2011 at 11:11 am

    Trisha -

    My last shot;

    Yankees, Mets, Cubs, Angels, Red Sox, Braves, Giants, Dodgers

  46. JCPD February 18th, 2011 at 11:11 am

    BoJo, glad you liked them. I have about 80 different lighthouses I’ve photographed on my website.

  47. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 11:12 am

    Doreen–

    The Yankee selection of coaches seems to be based on their underlying philosophies..

    Patience at plate is preached by Gene Michael and now Kevin Long

    Power Pitching was set as goal by Cashman in 2006 and now Rothschild comes in to deliver.

  48. upstate kate February 18th, 2011 at 11:12 am

    Reds?

  49. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 11:13 am

    JCPD February 18th, 2011 at 11:11 am

    BoJo, glad you liked them. I have about 80 different lighthouses I’ve photographed on my website.
    _____________
    I’m salivating…I love lighthouses and have collected abnout 300 phoots…Can I see your site?

  50. pat February 18th, 2011 at 11:13 am

    Yankees, Mets, Red Sox, Dodgers, Cubs, Phillies, Cards and Giants

  51. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 11:13 am

    Okay

    Yankees
    Suxers
    Dodgers
    Mets
    Cubs
    Braves
    GIANTS
    Cards

    Source is Forbes Magazine

    I think Big Al may have come closest.

    :)

    Thanks for playing gang!!

  52. Crawdaddy February 18th, 2011 at 11:14 am

    I’m not taking much stock in that article about Murphy. Last year was his first full professional year in baseball. This is the season to watch for improvement in his game after what he experienced last year.

  53. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 11:14 am

    trisha – true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 11:11 am

    Hint – there is one team that nobody has named. You are all very close.

    Another hint – the Angels is not one of the teams on the list
    _____________________
    That Moreno B*stard!!!!

    Giants?

  54. Erin February 18th, 2011 at 11:14 am

    Gotta love a good Back to the Future reference (especially after you’ve just gotten out of the most boring meeting ever)

    BryanHoch Like Doc’s DeLorean, Freddy Garcia needs to get to 88 mph. He says when he got hit, he was around 83-84, but he can live at 88-89.

    TylerKepner @BryanHoch Maybe Mussina left one of his Flux Capacitor T-shirts lying around.

  55. Ys Guy February 18th, 2011 at 11:15 am

    i know the last time i looked at the forbes franchise valueations it was the angels instead of the giants. i guess them winning the WS raided thier valuation above the angels.

  56. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 11:15 am

    Crawdaddy February 18th, 2011 at 11:14 am
    ______________
    Hope you are right….

  57. JCPD February 18th, 2011 at 11:16 am

    BoJo, have Chad send me your e-mail and I’ll pass it along to you!!!

  58. JD February 18th, 2011 at 11:17 am

    yankees,red sox,twins,cubs,dodgers,phillies,mets,and Cards.

  59. BIG AL February 18th, 2011 at 11:17 am

    Trisha -

    If you are talking about franchise value/worth, then the Angels must be on the list. I just looked it up, and the Angels are 3rd behind the Yankees and Red Sox in the AL, as of 2008 Forbes report.

    Gotta go, post the correct answer please.

  60. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 11:17 am

    It was the Giants, Bojo.

    Not sure if that list was in any order, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was.

    I’m impressed that all of you got so many of them. I’m not sure I would have guessed as many correctly, and I hate to say that I would have put Orioles on the list. I don’t think anybody did, smartly enough.

  61. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 11:18 am

    Hmmm—

    Just googled this

    http://www.forbes.com/lists/20.....Value.html

    The Forbes numbers you posted are 2007?

  62. upstate kate February 18th, 2011 at 11:19 am

    ah well thanks for the game Trisha…a nice little diversion on a Friday

  63. BIG AL February 18th, 2011 at 11:19 am

    Trisha -

    Per Forbes, Angels worth is $500 M, Cards worth is $484 M, as of 2008. OH well, bye.

  64. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 11:19 am

    Interesting point about the Orioles…the guy is getting PAID by the Nationals, and still isn’t top 10!

  65. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 11:21 am

    You know, Ben Bailey did say according to the 2007 Forbes Report. Since the new season for Cash Cab started a few days ago, I just took it that it was still up to date information.

    And the question was just as I worded it.

  66. Ys Guy February 18th, 2011 at 11:21 am

    al it changes every year. the met’s stadium jumped them up the list to #2 or #3. heres the list from 2008
    ” 1 Yankees $1,306 9% 77% $327 -$47
    2 Mets $824 12% 97% $235 $33
    3 Red Sox $816 13% 29% $263 -$19
    4 Dodgers $694 10% 61% $224 $20
    5 Cubs $642 8% 0% $214 $21
    6 Angels $500 16% 7% $200 $15
    7 Braves $497 9% 0% $199 $28
    8 Giants $494 8% 28% $197 $20
    9 Cardinals $484 5% 51% $194 $22
    10 Phillies $481 5% 36% $192 $14

  67. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 11:22 am

    JCPD–

    I set up a Lohud e-mail only account at bojo2050@gmail.com

    You can use that. Thank you. If interested, I’ll send you some of mine as well.

  68. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 11:23 am

    Kate, I like doing that kind of stuff. It’s a lot of fun.

    Soon we will be starting – guess the number of Yankee wins for 2011!

    Always some fun game to be had.

    :)

  69. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 11:23 am

    ank Team Current Value1 ($mil) 1-Yr Value Change (%) Debt/Value2 (%) Revenues ($mil) Operating Income3 ($mil)
    1 New York Yankees 1,600 7 89 441 24.9
    2 Boston Red Sox 870 4 28 266 40.0
    3 New York Mets 858 -6 81 268 26.2
    4 Los Angeles Dodgers 727 1 58 247 33.1
    5 Chicago Cubs 726 4 80 246 25.5
    6 Philadelphia Phillies 537 8 33 233 14.5
    7 Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim 521 2 7 217 12.0
    8 St Louis Cardinals 488 0 56 195 12.8

  70. Ys Guy February 18th, 2011 at 11:24 am

    i claim victory:
    1 New York Yankees 1,600 7 89 441 24.9
    2 Boston Red Sox 870 4 28 266 40.0
    3 New York Mets 858 -6 81 268 26.2
    4 Los Angeles Dodgers 727 1 58 247 33.1
    5 Chicago Cubs 726 4 80 246 25.5
    6 Philadelphia Phillies 537 8 33 233 14.5
    7 Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim 521 2 7 217 12.0
    8 St Louis Cardinals

    Ys Guy February 18th, 2011 at 10:57 am
    yanks, socks, mets, phils, dodgers, cubbies, cardinals, angels. hard to define ‘most prosperous’

  71. Mell February 18th, 2011 at 11:25 am

    As of April 2010, the 8 most valuable teams in order, per Forbes:

    1) Yankees
    2) Red Sox
    3) Mets
    4) Dodgers
    5) Cubs
    6) Phils
    7) Angels
    8) Cards

  72. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 11:25 am

    The above are from April 2010 article in Forbes

    http://www.forbes.com/lists/20.....Value.html

  73. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 11:25 am

    Hey, I wonder if Cash Cab was playing some kind of trick on the participants. He did say “According to the 2007 Forbes Magazine”. I didn’t put that in the question because I didn’t want anyone to go right to the source!

  74. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 11:26 am

    I think we need a tiebreaker

  75. upstate kate February 18th, 2011 at 11:26 am

    I was close Ys Guy, just had ChiSox instead of Dodgers

  76. Triple Short of a Cycle February 18th, 2011 at 11:27 am

    What are the only 2 days of the year where no professional sports (Baseball,Football,Hockey,Basketball) are played?

  77. tyanksfan36 February 18th, 2011 at 11:28 am

    So I just left the field. I got some pictures and some videos of the first group throwing bullpens. I don’t get off work until 7 soo they’ll be up sometime by 8.

  78. JD February 18th, 2011 at 11:28 am

    dec 25 & Jan 1

  79. Ys Guy February 18th, 2011 at 11:28 am

    ill go with the day after the baseball asb and the day after the super bowl.

  80. Erin February 18th, 2011 at 11:28 am

    BloggingBombers Freddy Garcia on the SP race: “I don?t worry about anybody else. I have to worry about myself. If I don?t worry about myself, I?m f—-d.”

  81. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 11:29 am

    If you want to do a tiebreaker, I’ll go and get one of my Christmas presents from last year – a ton of Yankee baseball factoid cards!

  82. West Coast Yankee Fan February 18th, 2011 at 11:29 am

    Life is good for A-Rod:

    “The New York Post reported on Friday that New York Yankees star Alex Rodriguez is leaving his “$30,000-a-month rental” and moving into a $6 million apartment. The new apartment is said to be at 80 Riverside Blvd. on 64th Street.”

  83. Chambliss February 18th, 2011 at 11:30 am

    Thank you for the reports about what the guys are doing. The details are great.

    I find all of the attention that Joba is getting in the media about his weight to be absurd. There must not be too much news to talk about if Joba’s gut is the main story day after day. Will we soon be getting updates on what Joba had for breakfast? C’mon.

  84. Ys Guy February 18th, 2011 at 11:30 am

    day after the baseball all star game that is.

  85. Mell February 18th, 2011 at 11:30 am

    “What are the only 2 days of the year where no professional sports”

    Day before and day after the ASB.

  86. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 11:31 am

    Trisha

    YAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

    :-)
    Great idea!

  87. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 11:32 am

    I agree with Mell on the above

  88. Mell February 18th, 2011 at 11:33 am

    “I agree with Mell on the above”

    You may want to consider this as your default position.

  89. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    My suggestion for a tie-breaker was going to be:

    “If Scott Boras passed gas, what reporter would tweet what Scott ate for breakfast based on his sense of smell alone?”

    :-)

  90. Erica in NY February 18th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    Basketball gets played on 12/25

    If I recall correctly, there were complaints this year

  91. Triple Short of a Cycle February 18th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    Mell got it

  92. comet February 18th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    Howdy Kate:

    Isn’t this weather wonderful? Our back yard is almost snow free!

    You ready for our Spring Training Jaunt? Do you have Erin’s email because she wants to come too.

    All the best and good to hear from you,

    Comet

  93. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    Mell February 18th, 2011 at 11:33 am

    “I agree with Mell on the above”

    You may want to consider this as your default position.
    +++++++++++
    :-)

    Great line!

  94. JD February 18th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    Good call Mell.

  95. West Coast Yankee Fan February 18th, 2011 at 11:35 am

    I think the Joba weight story has legs for this reason.

    When a heralded prospects value has dropped as precipitously as Joba’s has, there is a school of thought that might suggest he would come to camp in great shape to show management how determined he is to prove them wrong.

  96. Ys Guy February 18th, 2011 at 11:35 am

    the nba showcases games every christmas. the nfl plays on christmas, too when it falls on a sunday.

  97. Ys Guy February 18th, 2011 at 11:36 am

    wcyf has not joba stock left for me to buy…

  98. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 11:36 am

    I will go and get the cards right now. While I do, please answer this for me.

    How is Operating Income defined? I took a look at that list and noticed the bottom 10 teams and felt sad for them. The Orioles are one of them! Then I remembered how much money Peter Angelos supposedly was. I also remember my friend Alan the Oakland A’s fan telling me how cheap their owners are.

    Rather than do my taxes I think I will do a ratio of Operating Expenses to Revenue, if that makes any sense. Will that tell us anything worthwhile? Maybe not because some team might spend a fortune but have such have revenue that the ratio could be deceiving.

    Okay, be right back.

  99. JD February 18th, 2011 at 11:37 am

    I’ve been too busy watching The Christmas Story I guess.

  100. Erin February 18th, 2011 at 11:38 am

    BloggingBombers Garcia can be good fit for NYY. Last year, he threw 6+ IP w/ 3 R or less in 19 of 28 starts. Four AWFUL starts (25 ER, 9 IP) killed his ERA.

    BloggingBombers Freddy Garcia on whether he expects to win a spot in the Yanks’ rotation: “That?s why I?m here. If you don?t think that way, don?t be here.”

  101. Ys Guy February 18th, 2011 at 11:40 am

    these franchise valuations include estimates of value for thier networks and thier stadiums which are basically guesses b/c very little of that info is public knowlege.

    one thing about the O’s is that while they are taking money from the nat’s for infriging on thier turf, their populiation base (potential fans) is cut in half by the nat’s competing with them for ticket and merchandise sales.

  102. LGY February 18th, 2011 at 11:42 am

    Chip,

    The thing that you are not grasping with the Bautista contract is that he doesn’t need to repeat last year for it to be worth it.

    If Bautista repeats last year he is a 100+ million player on the FA market.

  103. LGY February 18th, 2011 at 11:42 am

    Read this Chip

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs.....cashes-in/

  104. comet February 18th, 2011 at 11:42 am

    Hey Arin:

    Ready for Spring Training. When do we leave Darling?

    How’s the weather where you are?

    All the best,

    Comet

  105. comet February 18th, 2011 at 11:43 am

    That was “Erin” not “Arin”

  106. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 11:43 am

    Bojo, who is in on the tiebreaker?

  107. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 11:44 am

    ??

    Shall we just start again. and keep score?

  108. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 11:45 am

    BTW—great article on MO in NY Post this morning….

  109. Ys Guy February 18th, 2011 at 11:46 am

    interesting that the nats are valued at more than the o’s though. angelos couldnt have done a worse job running that team, and apparently did a really crappy job negotiating the nat’s buy-in, too!

    just wait till they have strassburg-harper as thier battery!

  110. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 11:46 am

    Okay, since I UNINTENTIONALLY asked a question that was dated, everyone can be in on this question.

    Put on your seatbelts.

  111. Erin February 18th, 2011 at 11:46 am

    Hi Comet! I’m ready whenever you are. :)

    It’s supposed to get up to 40 degrees today-it’s like a heatwave! lol The weekend is supposed to be pretty nice too, but then it’s supposed to get cold again on Monday. I’m just enjoying my little preview of spring.

  112. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 11:48 am

    YS Guy–

    Harper was moved to RF…won’t be catching again.

  113. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 11:49 am

    Can we start with my Boras question? :-) JK

  114. Erin February 18th, 2011 at 11:50 am

    Joelsherman1 In 15 yrs don’t think ever seen Mariano Rivera botch a ball, throw errant in fielding drill #metronome #Yankees

  115. Ys Guy February 18th, 2011 at 11:50 am

    bojo, you are right, i forgot. btw, alot of speculation that the nats will be all-in on pujols if he becomes a f/a. gotta give them credit, they tried to get in on tex, too!

  116. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 11:51 am

    Ys–Agreed on Pujols…Nats are serious about building a fan base.

  117. Ys Guy February 18th, 2011 at 11:52 am

    and the nats were in on chapman, too.

  118. Chip February 18th, 2011 at 11:52 am

    LGY February 18th, 2011 at 11:42 am
    Chip,

    The thing that you are not grasping with the Bautista contract is that he doesn’t need to repeat last year for it to be worth it.

    If Bautista repeats last year he is a 100+ million player on the FA market.

    —————-

    I do grasp that – but the thing you’re not grasping about the Bautista contract is that if he regresses to his average which is a .230-.240 hitter with 15 HR and 50 RBI then the contract is not just awful, it’s horribly awful.

  119. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 11:52 am

    10 years at $300M would actually make sense for Nats in order to build a fan base…

  120. pat February 18th, 2011 at 11:54 am

    AndrewMarchand Yankees top prospect Dellin Bentances was a Bleacher Creature for David Wells’ perfect game. Here is the story. http://es.pn/fLO4Qv

  121. Triple Short of a Cycle February 18th, 2011 at 11:55 am

    The Nats would look pretty sweet with Pujols,Zimmerman,Harper and Werth at 3 through 6 and Strasburg and Zimmerman in the rotation

  122. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 11:57 am

    You know I like to make things complicated. Read the question carefully. I know the information is correct because it comes right from the back of my baseball card, plus I Googled additional information to at least give you a little bit of a hint or somewhere to start.

    In perhaps the most fabled year in Yankee history, one of the Yankee pitchers led the team with 22 wins. This pitcher was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1969. In the same year that the pitcher had those 22 wins, the closer for the Yankees had 19 wins.

    NAME THE CLOSER.

    I will send the winner 5 Ritter Sports Bars, whatever kinds you want. If you have not had Ritter Sports Bars, you’re missing something. There’s nothing healthy about them, just slick marketing to make you think they’re healthy. They’re milk chocolate with different kinds of nuts in them, and one is butter cookie, chocolate filled.

    GO!

  123. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 11:57 am

    The Nats will be a force with that lineup!

  124. Against All Odds February 18th, 2011 at 11:58 am

    # trisha – true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 10:46 am

    “Chamberlain is already mixing all of his pitches”

    Oh I have a good feeling about this. Maybe Dave Eiland’s personal situation was taking too much of his psychic energy and maybe he dropped the ball last season – or for a few seasons, depending on what he was dealing with.

    But I just have such a good feeling about Larry Rotschild. YAHOO!!!!!

    ————————–

    Rothschild is my new favorite Yankee

  125. Chip February 18th, 2011 at 11:58 am

    BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 11:52 am
    10 years at $300M would actually make sense for Nats in order to build a fan base…

    ————

    I’m telling you – they’re going to be in this thing if he gets to FA

  126. Against All Odds February 18th, 2011 at 11:59 am

    # Triple Short of a Cycle February 18th, 2011 at 11:55 am

    The Nats would look pretty sweet with Pujols,Zimmerman,Harper and Werth at 3 through 6 and Strasburg and Zimmerman in the rotation

    ———————–

    So I guess that means the Mets become the 5th best team in the NL East

  127. Against All Odds February 18th, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    # blake February 18th, 2011 at 10:56 am

    Here is a non weight related question about Joba…….if he’s not going to be a dominant fastball/slider guy (and I guess he still could be), should he consider using all of his pitches again even in a relief role?

    ——————————–

    It wouldn’t hurt. One positive is he would become less predictable.

  128. Patrick February 18th, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    trisha,

    Wilcy Moore

  129. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    I love the Nats. Give me an underdog, I’ll adopt it every time. Give me a beleaguered player, I’ll punch your lights out before I let you kick the guy!

    Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.

    :)

  130. Chip February 18th, 2011 at 12:02 pm

    LGY February 18th, 2011 at 11:42 am
    Read this Chip

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs…..cashes-in/

    ————–

    To use your favorite stat WAR – exclude last year and exclude the years he didn’t get more than 100 PAs – you’re telling me that he’s going to be closer to what he was last year than what he was the other 4 years of his career?

  131. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    STOP THE CLOCK!

    Patrick, holy good God almighty. What was the tip off that got you there so quickly? Or were there many?

    You’re right!

  132. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    Moore trivia!!!

  133. Triple Short of a Cycle February 18th, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    Waite Hoyt

  134. Joe from Long Island February 18th, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    Luis Arroyo, for Whitey Ford.

  135. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    “Rothschild is my new favorite Yankee”

    :lol:

    Mine too!

  136. Patrick February 18th, 2011 at 12:04 pm

    You don’t sign Bautista to that deal after one good year. There’s a chance he repeats it and gets a ton of money on the open market but there’s also a chance he reverts to that .242/.334/.412 he was in 2006-2009

    As Keith Law said, “…there is no way I’d put a long-term deal on a guy with 2000 at bats of “meh” and 600 of “wow.” “

  137. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    Triple, you didn’t read carefully enough!

    Joe from LI, what year were you thinking? And were the stats accurate for that year? And was Whitey inducted in 1969? If all of those things were in play, you’ll get the bars too.

  138. Ys Guy February 18th, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    if pujols becomes a f/a and the cubs dont sign him, they should just fold.

  139. Chip February 18th, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    Against All Odds February 18th, 2011 at 11:59 am
    # Triple Short of a Cycle February 18th, 2011 at 11:55 am

    The Nats would look pretty sweet with Pujols,Zimmerman,Harper and Werth at 3 through 6 and Strasburg and Zimmerman in the rotation

    ———————–

    So I guess that means the Mets become the 5th best team in the NL East

    —————

    My opinion – they’re already there.

    I look for the Phillies to fall off quickly when they do though. That team’s going to get old all at once and they have a compromised farm system with which to augment their roster.

  140. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    I need a faster PC and connection….

  141. Triple Short of a Cycle February 18th, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    Against All Odds,

    If Strasburg was healthy this year they could have a better record then the Mets in 2011

  142. Patrick February 18th, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    trisha,

    I must admit, I used my google skills to find the answer :( I think you should save the ritters bars for someone that earns them!

    It was fun though because the question was so involved. I had to find out who was in the HoF class of 69 – Waite Hoyt, then look at what year he got 22 wins, then find the closer with 19 wins.

  143. Chip February 18th, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    Patrick February 18th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
    You don’t sign Bautista to that deal after one good year. There’s a chance he repeats it and gets a ton of money on the open market but there’s also a chance he reverts to that .242/.334/.412 he was in 2006-2009

    As Keith Law said, “…there is no way I’d put a long-term deal on a guy with 2000 at bats of “meh” and 600 of “wow.” “

    —————–

    Agreed.

    As I said, they just got out of two albatross contracts and potentially tied themselves into a worse one.

  144. West Coast Yankee Fan February 18th, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    The Nationals may have a different perspective than the Yankees do on a timetable for bringing players up. Bryce Harper is 18 years old, and according to a Jon Heyman tweet this morning, Riggleman said he doesn’t completely rule out Harper reaching the majors this season if he thrives at every level.

    Even though pitchers are different animals, one could make a strong case that Stephen Strasburg was brought up too early before his arm was ready.

    I wonder if this is a Nats management push or just a difference in the opinion of the baseball people.

  145. Triple Short of a Cycle February 18th, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue,

    I realized that after I hit send :)

  146. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    Chip–

    Philly fans will accept a few down years if they can win 1 or 2 more championships. The city is pretty happy now with the team, but used to so many bad years…so it will be alright IMO.

  147. Chip February 18th, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan February 18th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
    The Nationals may have a different perspective than the Yankees do on a timetable for bringing players up. Bryce Harper is 18 years old, and according to a Jon Heyman tweet this morning, Riggleman said he doesn’t completely rule out Harper reaching the majors this season if he thrives at every level.

    Even though pitchers are different animals, one could make a strong case that Stephen Strasburg was brought up too early before his arm was ready.

    I wonder if this is a Nats management push or just a difference in the opinion of the baseball people.

    ——————

    I think when you’re a team of limited resources as the Nats are/have been and have so much invested in a couple of minor leaguers you would rather they earn that money at the ML level and generate some buzz for your team at the same time rather than in the minors.

  148. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    Geeze didn’t realize that Ritter had so many varieties of Sports Bars!!!

    http://www.globalchocolates.com/ritter_sport.htm

    Anyway, the kind I can get are milk chocolate with hazelnuts, milk chocolate with almonds, milk chocolate, and milk chocolate filled butter cookies.

  149. Patrick February 18th, 2011 at 12:10 pm

    Even though pitchers are different animals, one could make a strong case that Stephen Strasburg was brought up too early before his arm was ready

    There’s nothing the nationals could have done to avoid that injury. You see this sort of thing happen a lot to guys that have huge jumps in velocity like Strasburg had from high school to college

  150. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 12:10 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    Geeze didn’t realize that Ritter had so many varieties of Sports Bars!!!

    http://www.globalchocolates.com/ritter_sport.htm

    Anyway, the kind I can get are milk chocolate with hazelnuts, milk chocolate with almonds, milk chocolate, and milk chocolate filled butter cookies.
    _________________________
    The health bar for those working towards diabetes…

  151. Ys Guy February 18th, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    amaro jr. seems to know what he’s doing and ownership has finally caught on that investing in the team reaps huge profits. (george could’ve told them 30 years ago)

    add in a gift (beautiful) stadium thanks to the commonwealth and you have a team that may just stick around.

  152. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    Patrick, I absolutely knew that someone would have to rely on Google! You just did it so quickly. Heck I never ever heard of Wilcy Moore.

    Hey wait a minute. I just got Bojo’s response. Let me go back and check the time.

    Triple, well your answer could be good for one Ritter Sports Bar!

  153. Against All Odds February 18th, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    # Chip February 18th, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    Against All Odds February 18th, 2011 at 11:59 am
    # Triple Short of a Cycle February 18th, 2011 at 11:55 am

    The Nats would look pretty sweet with Pujols,Zimmerman,Harper and Werth at 3 through 6 and Strasburg and Zimmerman in the rotation

    ———————–

    So I guess that means the Mets become the 5th best team in the NL East

    —————

    My opinion – they’re already there.

    I look for the Phillies to fall off quickly when they do though. That team’s going to get old all at once and they have a compromised farm system with which to augment their roster.

    —————————–

    Yea the phillies are going all or nothing when it comes to their roster. It reminds me of the Yankees in the 2000s. Every yr that passes the team got older and older

  154. Nick in SF February 18th, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    I will accept any number of Cornflake Crisp and/or Alpine Milk Chocolate Ritter Sport bars for correctly predicting that Carl Crawford would leave Tampa.

    FWI: the cheapest Ritter Sports I have found are at Target.

  155. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    Okay, Patrick did beat Bojo.

    Patrick the Sports Bars are yours!

    :)

    Being a chocoholic, unfortunately whenever I think of prizes I think of chocolate. The salt water taffy was just a regional prize.

    Bojo, they are so damned good though. One every once-in-a-while isn’t going to kill you!

  156. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    Trisha–

    :-)

  157. Against All Odds February 18th, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    # Triple Short of a Cycle February 18th, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    Against All Odds,

    If Strasburg was healthy this year they could have a better record then the Mets in 2011

    ——————————-

    I agree.

    The Mets are banking on a lot of ifs to have a solid season. I just don’t see it happening.

  158. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 12:15 pm

    Nick, Target by far has the best prices. They will always come in under $2.00 (at least that’s what Target out here charges.)

    CVS and Walgreen’s, on special have them 2/$5.

  159. BoJo February 18th, 2011 at 12:15 pm

    Off for a while–see you all later!

  160. Erin February 18th, 2011 at 12:15 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
    Geeze didn?t realize that Ritter had so many varieties of Sports Bars!!!

    http://www.globalchocolates.com/ritter_sport.htm

    Anyway, the kind I can get are milk chocolate with hazelnuts, milk chocolate with almonds, milk chocolate, and milk chocolate filled butter cookies.

    *********************************
    Ritter Sports Bars are delicious!! I’m getting hungry just thinking about them. ;)

  161. Bad Scooter February 18th, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    “Erin February 18th, 2011 at 11:50 am
    Joelsherman1 In 15 yrs don’t think ever seen Mariano Rivera botch a ball, throw errant in fielding drill #metronome #Yankees”

    Too bad he botched that one in the 2001 World Series against the D Backs.

  162. Triple Short of a Cycle February 18th, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan,

    I think Harper might get a cup of coffee in Sept but I would be surprised if he wasn’t playing full time in June of 2012

  163. West Coast Yankee Fan February 18th, 2011 at 12:19 pm

    Chip February 18th, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan February 18th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
    The Nationals may have a different perspective than the Yankees do on a timetable for bringing players up. Bryce Harper is 18 years old, and according to a Jon Heyman tweet this morning, Riggleman said he doesn’t completely rule out Harper reaching the majors this season if he thrives at every level.

    Even though pitchers are different animals, one could make a strong case that Stephen Strasburg was brought up too early before his arm was ready.

    I wonder if this is a Nats management push or just a difference in the opinion of the baseball people.

    ——————

    I think when you’re a team of limited resources as the Nats are/have been and have so much invested in a couple of minor leaguers you would rather they earn that money at the ML level and generate some buzz for your team at the same time rather than in the minors.

    *************

    Chip – I agree about the buzz. The Nationals owner Mark Lerner is worth about $3 billion and seems willing to spend money to build a team. He’s done a good job raising their profile, you hear the Nats mentioned in almost every large trade rumor. That’s why I think the Werth signing was a good move; he can afford it and the baseball world is taking notice.

  164. LGY February 18th, 2011 at 12:19 pm

    How many players have hit 50+ HR out of nowhere and then gone back to being mediocre? How many have done it in the testing era?

    The Blue Jays carried a 97 million payroll in 2008. They are not a small market cash strapped team. They can handle big contracts.

    At the same time, for all the cash they have cleared who really wants to play in Toronto? What FA want to go to Canada in the middle of a rebuilding phase? They have to take risks to improve.

    Bautista is a risk but it is not a massive one because it is still only 60 million bucks. About half of what they gave to Wells. It also could pay major dividends, because if he is able to repeat 2010 he is suddenly worth a huge 100 million dollar range contract.

    He also has obviously made major changes in his swing and his approach at the plate and no one knows about these changes better than the Blue Jays.

    I think the contract is about a year too long. 4/52 would have been nice, but if that 5th year meant keeping Bautista on that team and preventing him for testing the FA market I think the risk is worth it to the Blue Jays.

    AA knows what he is doing up in Toronto.

  165. West Coast Yankee Fan February 18th, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    Triple Short of a Cycle February 18th, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan,

    I think Harper might get a cup of coffee in Sept but I would be surprised if he wasn’t playing full time in June of 2012.

    ********************

    I agree Triple, barring some bump in the road in the minors. He sure seems like the real deal. What’s not to like about Strasburg and Harper.

  166. Patrick February 18th, 2011 at 12:22 pm

    How many players have hit 50+ HR out of nowhere and then gone back to being mediocre? How many have done it in the testing era?

    Brady Anderson

  167. kd February 18th, 2011 at 12:22 pm

    betances to montero….. that’s a phrase that i could get used to

  168. Triple Short of a Cycle February 18th, 2011 at 12:22 pm

    Against All Odds,

    The Mets really need to start puting more money into scouting and the draft. They were one of the few big market teams that refused to go overslot for picks.

    Bay was an awful move to appease the fans. about the only young player I like on that team is Davis. The illusion most Met fans had during the 2006 season was that they had a solid pitching staff. The reality is they caught lightning in a bottle for a year to a year on a half with Maine and Perez

  169. Ys Guy February 18th, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    even if the nats were absolutly not going to bring harper north, they’d be crazy to say that now. they dont have much to hype with strassburg out, so harper werth and dunn are all they have. they have to play up harper now, whether they really intend to promote him or not.

  170. Patrick February 18th, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    I doubt Bautista goes back to being a bad player but he’s not going to hit 50 HR ever again. I suspect he’ll be something in between..

    If he hits 30 dingers this year I wouldn’t be surprised.

  171. LGY February 18th, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    “Brady Anderson”

    ——————

    He put up an .863 OPS the year after hitting 50.

  172. rodg12 February 18th, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    Can anyone tell me if Soriano has thrown a bullpen yet? I don’t remember seeing him listed by Chad yet…

  173. Triple Short of a Cycle February 18th, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    Ys Guy,

    Dunn is gone. Larouche is playing first

  174. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    Chip, I also think that Strasburg was brought up too early, and the kind of pitcher he is, that could have been an injury just waiting to happen. I saw the first game he pitched in the majors (on television) and you cannot believe the kid’s delivery. How his elbow and shoulder keep from popping out is beyond me. God does he throw hard. And I have to believe that kids like Strasburg have to be flying when they come up. Talk about pressure. Pitching to help out a team that needs it desperately, to the extent that the kid will end up their number one pitcher the same year he comes up, no question (if he hadn’t gotten hurt.) If it is possible for Strasburg to have been throwing harder than he ever had before, even if by inches, I absolutely believe he was.

    *************

    SAS if you’re here, that’s an example of keeping updated in terms of the best prospects on their way to the majors, in terms of fantasy baseball. I drafted Stephen Strasburg at the beginning of the season, before he even came up, because I knew he was the number one draft pick in 2009. My happiness was short-lived however. He went down pretty quickly.

    :(

  175. Patrick February 18th, 2011 at 12:28 pm

    He put up an .863 OPS the year after hitting 50.

    And the year after that? .776

    The point is, you don’t give a guy a ton of money after just 1 good season.

  176. LGY February 18th, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    “And the year after that? .776″

    ———-

    And the year after that, .881!

  177. Triple Short of a Cycle February 18th, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    Patrick,

    I read somewhere (Fangraphs or Baseball HQ) that Bautista actually underachieved last year and his numbers should have been even better. His underlining numbers totally supported his output. He made his adustment at the plate at the end of 2009

  178. Ys Guy February 18th, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    im convinced that strassburg was going under the knife no matter where he threw last year. i think we blame ‘being rushed’ for alot of arm injuries that would have happened anyway. liriano is a perfect example of this. when i first saw him they were saying his motion was a red flag that he would have problems. dont think it mattered where he was throwing, its in his motion.

  179. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    Patrick, shoot me off an email. We’re in enough fantasy leagues together that you have my email address. Pick your Sports Bars and they’ll be on their way.

    :)

  180. Patrick February 18th, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    And the year after that, .881!

    If Anderson had signed the deal that Bautista did after his 50 HR season he would have had 2 good years and 3 bad ones. Not worth it.

    This argument is dumb anyways. Bautista is not worth the contract he just got

  181. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    “dont think it mattered where he was throwing, its in his motion.”

    Very good point.

  182. pat February 18th, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    Might be nothing but……

    kellythesier: Liriano did not throw today, tightness in shoulder

  183. Patrick February 18th, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    kellythesier: Liriano did not throw today, tightness in shoulder

    Hahaha and THAT is why you do not trade a top prospect like Montero/Banuelos/Betances for Liriano.

  184. LGY February 18th, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    I could be wrong but I don’t remember Anderson changing his swing. He probably just changed his “supplements” Much less likely with testing now that Josess season was steroid driven.

    Also Anderson is just one example. Got any other?

  185. Patrick February 18th, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    Also Anderson is just one example. Got any other?

    How about you find me an example of a player that was terrible for several years and at the age of 29 he breaks out with a huge year?

  186. UnKnown February 18th, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    Just heard on the local sports radio station here in Minneapolis that Liraino is reporting Arm Soreness/Stiffness already down in Ft. Myers. Sorry I don’t have an official link, just word of mouth on the local radio waves here in Minny.

    Might want to hold off on giving them all of Scranton just yet.

  187. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 12:42 pm

    Erin and Nick – it appears there are two “neu” kinds of Sports Bars. Also, who knew they had them in gigantic size?

    :)

    http://www.sugarpressure.com/ritter-sport/

  188. LGY February 18th, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    Patrick

    Hmm. Gonna have to get back to you on that one. Too difficult on the phone.

    I’m of the belief you don’t luck into smashing 50 taters in the testing era especially when there is evidence of a swing mechanic change

  189. blake February 18th, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    Brady was most likely on the juice though….I think the biggest change in Bautista is totally different swing mechanics….they showed film from 2007 and 2010 last night and its completely different and he generates much more torque and extension now. Of course the league will adjust and you do expect regression….but as long as he’s in the same ballpark as last season then the Jays will be ok. 5 years is long though given his track record…..I didn’t think there was any way they’d go that length.

  190. Against All Odds February 18th, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    # Triple Short of a Cycle February 18th, 2011 at 12:22 pm

    Against All Odds,

    The Mets really need to start puting more money into scouting and the draft. They were one of the few big market teams that refused to go overslot for picks.

    Bay was an awful move to appease the fans. about the only young player I like on that team is Davis. The illusion most Met fans had during the 2006 season was that they had a solid pitching staff. The reality is they caught lightning in a bottle for a year to a year on a half with Maine and Perez

    ———————————

    Yea the Mets don’t do what it takes to get top talent in the draft. Maybe Alderson will be the guy to buck the trend.

    And you’re right about the Mets in 2006. The farther we get away from that season it just reinforces my belief that that yr was an aberration for the Metropolitans. So many things went right for them especially the emergence of Maine and Perez. It created a belief that the team was going to go on a run when that wasn’t the case.

  191. Tom in N.J. February 18th, 2011 at 12:48 pm

    Davey Johnson hit .221/.320/.335/.655 with 5 home runs in 436 pa’s as a 29 y/o.

    He hit .270/.370/.546/.916 with 43 home runs as a 30 y/o.

    He hit 27 home runs over his next 4 seasons.

  192. Patrick February 18th, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    Maybe you guys are right about Bautista. The only thing I can say is that AA is a good GM and knows what he’s doing. Maybe him and his team think that based on his swing mechanics or whatever Bautista can continue hitting like he did in 2010.

    I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt on this one but I still think it’s a huge risk and it realy wasn’t necessary at this point.

  193. Erin February 18th, 2011 at 12:50 pm

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  194. blake February 18th, 2011 at 12:52 pm

    Bautista may revert back closer to the player he was before last season but there are clear reasons why he was able to generate more power last year……and that’s probably what the Jays are banking on.

  195. Against All Odds February 18th, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    OT: So the Nets and Nuggets agree to a deal and are just waiting for Melo to say yes or no.

    SMH not this again

  196. Mell February 18th, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
    In Red Sox camp today, and the word here is that Alfredo Aceves is commanding the ball very well. He has lost weight, improved his condition

  197. Mell February 18th, 2011 at 1:02 pm

    Substitute teacher in me is giving Blake a D+ for wirting “revert back”.

  198. Mell February 18th, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    and me an F for “wirting” instead of “writing”.

  199. blake February 18th, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    Substitute teacher in me is giving Mell a D+ for “wirting” ;)

  200. blake February 18th, 2011 at 1:05 pm

    besides D is short for Diploma.

  201. Against All Odds February 18th, 2011 at 1:06 pm

    # Mell February 18th, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
    In Red Sox camp today, and the word here is that Alfredo Aceves is commanding the ball very well. He has lost weight, improved his condition

    ——————————————————————

    The one that got away

  202. Tom in N.J. February 18th, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    It always annoyed me when Kay said ‘betwixt and between’

  203. Mell February 18th, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    “besides D is short for Diploma”

    Short for a couple other things too.

  204. blake February 18th, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    “Epstein identified starting pitching depth as a possible area of weakness for the Red Sox. Boston has Tim Wakefield, Felix Doubront and Alfredo Aceves plus its starting five, but doesn’t necessarily have MLB-ready starters in the minors.”

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com

  205. Chip February 18th, 2011 at 1:09 pm

    LGY:

    At the same time, for all the cash they have cleared who really wants to play in Toronto? What FA want to go to Canada in the middle of a rebuilding phase? They have to take risks to improve.

    So because good players won’t sign there they should lavish huge amounts of money on bad players? How does that make your team better?

    The Nationals couldn’t get free agents to take them seriously – so they overpaid. The difference is that they overpaid to get a good player, not to keep a bad one who just had a good year.

  206. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    If anyone knows the answer to this, do your medical expenses have to be a certain % of your gross income before you can use them as a deduction? I don’t know if Erica is around and I don’t want to lean on her with all of my tax questions. I try to get my stuff in good order before I give it to my tax accountant. Also, I like to have some idea of how these things work just as a system of checks and balances once he does my taxes.

    Thanks.

  207. Mell February 18th, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    “The one that got away”

    Who knows. Hope always springs eternal at this time of the year. Everyone is in the best shape of their lives and eveyone is throwing great.

    Lot of it is revealed to be BS when the games start to count.

  208. Dionysius Thelxinoe February 18th, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    Against All Odds says:
    February 18, 2011 at 1:06 pm
    # Mell February 18th, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
    In Red Sox camp today, and the word here is that Alfredo Aceves is commanding the ball very well. He has lost weight, improved his condition

    ——————————————————————

    The one that got away

    ————–

    I wish Ace only the best, except against the Yankees. But let’s see how his back holds up before making that conclusion, don’t you think? No one can know more about it than the ones who have been footing his medical bills these past 2 seasons.

  209. blake February 18th, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    For what Aceves cost I have to believe the Yanks had reasons for not signing him.

  210. Dionysius Thelxinoe February 18th, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    Was there ever any doubt about Ace’s ability, anyway? Maybe its a newsflash for Olney and red sox nation (aka espn.com). The only issue I know about is physical.

  211. Against All Odds February 18th, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    # Dionysius Thelxinoe February 18th, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    Against All Odds says:
    February 18, 2011 at 1:06 pm
    # Mell February 18th, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
    In Red Sox camp today, and the word here is that Alfredo Aceves is commanding the ball very well. He has lost weight, improved his condition

    ——————————————————————

    The one that got away

    ————–

    I wish Ace only the best, except against the Yankees. But let’s see how his back holds up before making that conclusion, don’t you think? No one can know more about it than the ones who have been footing his medical bills these past 2 seasons.

    —————————–

    True it’s best to wait and see although I believe bringing him back was a risk worth taking. According to some reports before he went to Boston the Yankees made a last ditch effort.

  212. West Coast Yankee Fan February 18th, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    What risk?

  213. tampayank February 18th, 2011 at 1:18 pm

    Buccigross John Buccigross
    by SportsCenter
    Bergen Record reports Carmelo to the Nets is done deal if Melo accepts extension..turn on Sportcenter now..

    if agrees to the 3 year extension

  214. Patrick February 18th, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    That deal isn’t getting done until Friday or Saturday b/c Prokhorov isn’t talking to Carmelo until then

  215. Clare February 18th, 2011 at 1:21 pm

    Trisha,

    Yes. I don’t recall what the percentage is, but it’s pretty high.

  216. m February 18th, 2011 at 1:24 pm

    Doreen,

    Just caught the gist of what went on with your car. If you do end up getting your deposit back, I wanted to suggest something.

    Clark Howard is a consumer advocate and I saw him suggest overstock.com or another site (name escapes me)You can build your car inside & out and have it delivered to a dealership of your choice.

  217. Fran the original February 18th, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    Trisha,

    I don’t know the tax answer but you can check on Turbo Tax or one of those. It’s free to log on.

  218. GreenBeret7 February 18th, 2011 at 1:29 pm

    Whether JR Murphy stays with the Yanks or not, NY’s plans are to move him to a corner spot. Athletic and decent speed, good bat with power on it’s way.

  219. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 1:31 pm

    Clare, thanks. That saves me the time of adding up my prescriptions and things.

    :)

  220. upstate kate February 18th, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    just got back from a farewell luncheon for our receptionist…who called in sick…we had the party anyway!

  221. NJ Pete February 18th, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    Trisha – not sure what the threshold is but I know I fall short on federal but i’m over on NJ state.

  222. Betsy February 18th, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    Maybe they ‘re mixing their pitches so Rothschild can get a look at each pitcher’s repertoire and see what he might need to focus on.

  223. Fran the original February 18th, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    Kate,

    What did you do with the gift? :)

  224. Joe from Long Island February 18th, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    upstate kate – sometimes those are the best parties!

    Ever have a going-away party for a co-worker – after they’ve left the job? ;)

  225. Betsy February 18th, 2011 at 1:52 pm

    I think Melo is a goner. For whatever reason, he thinks the Knicks don’t want him (just because they don’t want to trade their whole team for him). In reality, thanks in part to Chris Paul, Denver does not want to deal with NY – they don’t want to give Melo what he wants. So, given that he’s already annoyed with the Knicks and he wants this over with, I feel that an extension will be forthcoming. The only hope I see is if Dolan can convince Melo that they never had a shot with Denver, but even then – he’d have to leave $20 million on the plate and I don’t think he’ll do that. If he chooses NJ, that’s fine, but then I don’t want to hear from him if he’s unhappy – any decision in NJs favor would be based solely on $$$ and he’d be going there with eyes wide open.

  226. Patrick February 18th, 2011 at 1:56 pm

    I’m a Nets fan and Melo is my favorite player in the NBA so this is like a dream come true if he ends up on the Nets :)

  227. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 1:56 pm

    Fran, thanks for that tip. Now if I have any other questions I’ll just go on TurboTax!

    :)

  228. upstate kate February 18th, 2011 at 1:57 pm

    Fran
    the boss had gotten her a gift certificate, which he took back. We haven’t decided what to do w/ the present from the rest of us. She was upset b/c we wouldn’t pay her for Monday, a paid holiday, when her last day of work was today.

    Joe from LI
    I had an awful boss at a former job. We had a celebration party after he left.

  229. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 18th, 2011 at 1:57 pm

    NJPete, I didn’t know that state and federal were different. Thanks for that tip.

  230. upstate kate February 18th, 2011 at 1:59 pm

    I am not much of a pro basketball fan, but Melo is my favorite player (I somewhat follow ‘cuse b’ball). I am relieved that he isn’t going to the Lakers.

  231. LGY February 18th, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    No way Melo extends with the Nets. Why would he? They are awful and shipping off 4 friggin first round picks seriously damaging their future.

    He would be better off staying in Denver.

  232. NJ Pete February 18th, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    Trisha – I can only speak from experience in NJ. No idea about Rhode Island.

  233. Betsy February 18th, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    Trish, by the way, I would never, ever go to WDW during summer or when kids are out of school, so by process of elimination, May was it for me. As it turns out, it’s about the perfect time to go………I am so psyched. I was babbling on the phone with the lady taking my dinner reservations, I’m so excited!

  234. Patrick February 18th, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    LGY,

    Melo + Lopez is something solid to build on. It will influence other FA’s to come to the Nets IMO.

  235. Betsy February 18th, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    LGY, haven’t we always said it’s about the $$$? Unless Melo is willing to pass up that much guaranteed bucks, he will be a Net. Ok, even if he stays in Denver, he’s still passing up the big $$$. I don’t think he wants to be a Net, but in life you can’t always get what you want.

  236. LGY February 18th, 2011 at 2:03 pm

    “So because good players won’t sign there they should lavish huge amounts of money on bad players? How does that make your team better?

    The Nationals couldn’t get free agents to take them seriously – so they overpaid. The difference is that they overpaid to get a good player, not to keep a bad one who just had a good year.”

    ———————–

    Chip,

    They obviously are not signing him expecting him to be a bad player. Also, come on with the hyperbole. Lavishing huge amounts of money? It is 13 million a year.

    So, the Nationals are the model the Jays should follow? I would rather have a 30 year old Bautista than a 32 year old Werth for half the price.

  237. LGY February 18th, 2011 at 2:03 pm

    Tom,

    Nice find on Davey Johnson.

  238. Mell February 18th, 2011 at 2:03 pm

    “No way Melo extends with the Nets. Why would he?”

    He fits in well with the all offense/no defense Knicks way of doing things. Won’t ever win a title, but he’ll fit in nicely.

  239. Betsy February 18th, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    FAs would rather go to the Nets with Melo and Lopez instead of the Knicks with Amare? The Knicks are still the Knicks – even when NJ moves to Brooklyn, they’re still not going to be “the” team in town.

  240. Betsy February 18th, 2011 at 2:05 pm

    Mell, I think we should wait and see what the Knicks doe after Melo comes (if he comes) before we decide they will never win a title.

  241. LGY February 18th, 2011 at 2:05 pm

    Patrick,

    Is this the Brook Lopez that is 7 feet tall, yet only averages 6 rebounds per game and who gets consistently called out by his coach in the media? :)

    Betsy,

    What money is he sacrificing staying in Denver? It is the same deal.

  242. Fran the original February 18th, 2011 at 2:05 pm

    Betsy,
    Sure you’ll have a great time. You’re right about not going to Disney during school vacations.
    *******
    I hope Melo goes to the Nets if only to stick it to Dolan.

  243. m February 18th, 2011 at 2:05 pm

    I thought Melo had a 3/$65 offer from the Nuggs? I was under the impression that if wasn’t traded by the deadline, then he’d be open to reconsidering that offer.

    Is melo to the Nets a done deal?

  244. Patrick February 18th, 2011 at 2:07 pm

    Is this the Brook Lopez that is 7 feet tall, yet only averages 6 rebounds per game and who gets consistently called out by his coach in the media?

    Lopez is a terrible rebounder but he’s a great scorer. Also I only remember one time when Lopez got called out and that was months ago

  245. LGY February 18th, 2011 at 2:07 pm

    Melo has been a pretty good defender in the playoffs IMO. I am just not sure he is all that motivated on the defensive end for 82 games a year.

  246. Betsy February 18th, 2011 at 2:07 pm

    Patrick, I meant even if he stays in Denver now and becomes a FA……

  247. Betsy February 18th, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    I mean, LGY – not Patrick

  248. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West February 18th, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    Not sure if this has been posted but The Rangers are giving Neftali Feliz a shot at making the rotation

    http://sports.espn.go.com/dall.....id=6135477

  249. Patrick February 18th, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    Patrick, I meant even if he stays in Denver now and becomes a FA……

    huh, I think you are replying to someone else

  250. Mell February 18th, 2011 at 2:10 pm

    “Mell, I think we should wait and see what the Knicks doe after Melo comes (if he comes) before we decide they will never win a title”

    Don’t care what they do. As long as Mike D’Antoni is their coach, they aren’t winning anything.

  251. Against All Odds February 18th, 2011 at 2:10 pm

    # m February 18th, 2011 at 2:05 pm

    I thought Melo had a 3/$65 offer from the Nuggs? I was under the impression that if wasn’t traded by the deadline, then he’d be open to reconsidering that offer.

    Is melo to the Nets a done deal?

    ———————–

    A deal is in place but Melo has to sign off on it

  252. LGY February 18th, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    Patrick,

    Avery calls him out like once a month. This is from February 2nd:

    “Five’s not good enough,” Johnson said. “We’re going to keep working our way towards 10.”

    http://www.nj.com/nets/index.s.....tells.html

  253. Erica in NY February 18th, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    :arrow:

  254. LGY February 18th, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    Betsy,

    I was saying he is better off just extending in Denver than going to the Nets.

  255. Patrick February 18th, 2011 at 2:13 pm

    LGY,

    Eh whatever, doesn’t matter, thats just Avery being Avery. Lopez isn’t a star but he’s a good player. If he works on his rebounding he would be an all-star

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    The NBA and the game will benefit greatly from having two competitive teams in New York City. Brooklyn will be a great home and I would never underestimate the wealth and determination of Mikhail Prokhorov who is reportedly worth $18 billion dollars.

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