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Saturday notes: Playing around with the lineup

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Feb 19, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

I wouldn’t expect anything too drastic, but Joe Girardi said this afternoon that he’s been discussing different lineup ideas, and we might see some different looks this spring.

“We’ll continue to talk about our lineup and how guys fit in,” Girardi said. “Right now we don’t expect a ton of changes. We’ve talked about some things internally that we might try to do. I don’t really want to get into it, but we’re not really sure exactly how our lineup’s going to break… We might play around a little bit in spring training.”

Girardi specifically mentioned Curtis Granderson’s strong finish as something that he’s been considering while thinking about the lineup. Girardi has already said he’s leaning toward keeping Derek Jeter in the leadoff spot. Asked about the 3, 4, 5 hitters, Girardi didn’t commit to anything, but he did say that last season he never considered switching Mark Teixeira and Robinson Cano, despite the fact Teixeira was struggling and Cano was thriving.

“No, I didn’t,” Girardi said. “I have to manage people over the long haul. You can’t manage short term, when it’s April and May. You just can’t do it. It’s a lot more than what he does for you today. There’s personality, the feelings, the confidence, how it affects your lineup. It’s a lot. Managing people is different than managing robots.”

• Speaking of his lineup, Girardi said he thinks Alex Rodriguez can still be a guy who hits .300 with 40 home runs. “That’s obviously a monster year, but I don’t think he’s past that point,” Girardi said. He also said Rodriguez might benefit from being more comfortable with his surgically repaired hip this season. “I would expect that this year there will be more of a confidence in that hip, in the way it feels, and that he’s beyond this and he can move freely,” Girardi said.

• At the opposite corner of the infield, Teixeira seems fully healthy, and although Girardi knows he might need someone else to play first occasionally, he said he doesn’t feel the need to give Teixeira significant time off. “It’s something that I’ll watch,” Girardi said. “He’s an everyday guy, but maybe if you get into a real long stretch, maybe you give him a day off.”

• Speaking of first base, last season the Yankees opened with Nick Johnson as a backup at the position. This year Girardi said the team will look at Eric Chavez and Ronnie Belliard as possible backup options at first. If neither makes the team, the Yankees could always give Nick Swisehr — and maybe even Jorge Posada — a little bit of time at first.

• Hector Noesi is expected to be ready to jump right into the Yankees throwing program tomorrow. “Noesi actually will be in uniform tomorrow and ready to throw, which is good to hear,” Girardi said.

• I wasn’t on the field to see batting practice, but Brett Gardner was once again listed in the second hitting group. He wasn’t in camp yesterday, but Gardner has been hitting with the veteran catchers most of the week.

• In the back of the Yankees clubhouse, Nick Swisher has a locker right next to his old Oakland teammate, Eric Chavez. Swisher said he’s expecting a bounce back year from Chavez, and Swisher promised Chavez that he’d love playing in New York.

• Yesterday morning, Phil Hughes walked into the clubhouse completely drenched in sweat. I thought he’d been out throwing a bullpen, and didn’t get a chance to talk to him before the clubhouse closed. He seriously looked like he’d just thrown 100 pitches in a row. Turned out, it was all cardio. His bullpen yesterday was almost exactly like his bullpen on Wednesday, two sets of roughly 20 pitches with a very small break in the middle.

• Mark Prior threw one of the early morning bullpens, which is usually a green light to be one of the first guys out of the complex. Instead, Prior was still here pretty late, including some training work on the back fields.

Associated Press photos: Rodriguez and Eduardo Nunez; Gardner and Kevin Long





118 Responses to “Saturday notes: Playing around with the lineup”

  1. PhiltheThrill February 19th, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    It was not so long ago that having Mark Prior and Eric Chavez in your training camp would be reason to celebrate. I wish them both well.

  2. 4 NYY February 19th, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    I doubt strongly either will go north.

  3. Crawdaddy February 19th, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    Bill Madden has made some valid points in the past about the Yankees inability to develop pitching. However, I think the Yankees are making great strides in addressing that weakness and his most recent article about ManBan and Betances is offbase. First off, those three Giant pitchers all had at least one season in which they were close to 150 innings before making their ML debut. Lincecum was a college pitcher that pitched over 100 innings each year which doesn’t count his NCAA tournament or international competition innings. Cain had two straight minor league seasons of 150 innings before making his ML debut. Bumgarner also had similar numbers in his brief two years of minor league pitching before splitting time with the minors and majors last year. By the way, Bumgarner and Lincecum were top ten picks while Cain was chosen in the 1st round too.

    Betances has suffered a couple of injuries so his innings high is around 121 while ManBan is even less than that number. Both of them have a need to improve their skill level before making their way to the major leagues and they need to stay healthy so they get their innings high for one season up to the 140-150 area. If everything goes well for them in 2011 then 2012 is their year to make it to the show despite what Madden has to say on the matter.

    IMO, Madden is no longer a top baseball writer. Hell, Jack Curry can write circles around him today and he retired from the Times.…..t_yan.html

  4. Crawdaddy February 19th, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    “I doubt strongly either will go north.”

    Well, that’s a newsflash.;)

  5. blake February 19th, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    I think Chavez might have a good shot if he’s healthy.

  6. Betsy February 19th, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    Cardio? I guess we have to make sure that young heart can handle the stress of the season………..the old guys have already proven they can, lol.

    Alex will have a monster year. Even in an “off” year last year, he still had a huge # of big hits and he ended up with good numbers.

    I took a glance at the CC article and ended up skipping it completely; that guy sounds like Rob “CC is no longer a consistent Cy Young contender” Neyer.

  7. Tar February 19th, 2011 at 9:25 pm


    I agree about Chavez. I think he has a very good shot.

    I just played around trying to come up with a line-up vs LHP and RHP.

    I have to say it’s a lot harder slotting everybody this year. Much harder than the last couple of years.

  8. Pat M. February 19th, 2011 at 9:26 pm

    blake…..If Chavez is healthy he’s going to be a significant player for the NY Yankees in 2011 as he’ll be a big bat coming off the bench and when Joe wants him to spell Alex……The Law Firm of Martin, Jones & Chavez will be a storyline in 2011……

  9. Giuseppe Franco February 19th, 2011 at 9:30 pm

    Chavez will make the team if he’s still in one piece come April.

    I don’t think it’s as important for him to have a big spring than it is for other invitees who are looking to fill backup roles.

  10. blake February 19th, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    Pat M, Tar,

    Yea I agree. No idea.what Chavez has left in the.tank but he and that short porch could make a good match when Alex or Tex need a day off. Certainly was worth a look on a.minor.league deal.

  11. Pat M. February 19th, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    Tar….You squeaked one out today……..I’m still shaking my head over the Duke game…..Heels will be the ones that slap them around in the ACC Tourney and drop them down to a 2 or 3 seed come bracket time…….I despise Duke, I have great respect for the program and Coach K but enough is enough with all the glowing bs treatment they get…..The UCLA Bruins are playing great and they’ll surprise many next month….A very young team………..Betsy, I read that Cameron piece on Sabathia and the guy is a schmuck

  12. blake February 19th, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    Cameron got to the kids in the 2nd half of that game…..they may not be so lucky at the Dean Dome.

  13. West Coast Yankee Fan February 19th, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    Giving credit where it’s due, I think Cashman has done a good job with the bench this time around. I like Andruw Jones and Eric Chavez to contribute significantly.

  14. Tar February 19th, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    Pat M

    You nailed it. SIngler and Smith are good players but the Dookies will be exposed against anybody with an inside game. They won’t last long come tourney time.

  15. West Coast Yankee Fan February 19th, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    My prediction for the 25 man roster going North:


  16. Betsy February 19th, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    Pat M, he’s not even worth talking about. As I said a day or so ago, I’m doing my best to avoid negative articles as they too easily upset me. If some people can’t see that CC is a great pitcher, that’s their problem – and they are not worth wasting time on.

  17. PhiltheThrill February 19th, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    Montero’s making the team.

  18. tyanksfan36 February 19th, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    West coast

    I would have to agree with you on that lineup. I think the 4th and 5th starters will be Garcia and either Nova or Mitre depending who gets through a lineup twice more easily in ST. Do you think Mitre will be in the pen or rotation?

  19. West Coast Yankee Fan February 19th, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    I think Mitre is the long man out of the pen. I believe Nova and Garcia will get the four and five slots.

  20. West Coast Yankee Fan February 19th, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    Phil, I don’t think Montero makes the team out of Spring Training unless Martin isn’t healthy and Cervelli looks terrible. I’d want him to play every day which he can do in SWB. There is no rush and remember that if the Yankees wait until after Memorial day to bring Montero up; they buy themselves an additional arbitration free year. That’s a factor.

  21. PhiltheThrill February 19th, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    I think he’s good enough to beat out Martin and Cervelli right off the bat.

  22. tyanksfan36 February 19th, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    West coast

    I agree with that. I think some people get too caught up in who will be what. If Nova doesn’t work out as the 5th starter or whatever, there is always someone else that can give it a shot. The Rotation outside of 1-3 isn’t really set in stone. I think its going to be an interesting spring and an interesting first month in April. I’m looking forward to it.

  23. m February 19th, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    Sometimes kids are good enough to beat out other guys, but the Yankees will probably rely on Martin to ease Montero into the bigs.

    Watching all-star weekend stuff, I can’t tell you what I’d give up to have James Blake on my team.

  24. m February 19th, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    And that would be Blake Griffin. Duh!

  25. West Coast Yankee Fan February 19th, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    Do the Yankees have Mariano court in Spring Training? Poor Robbie.

  26. Pat M. February 19th, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    Thrill…….Montero hasn’t caught or seen a MLB pitch……He could get a late season callup this year…….WCYF has made a solid point about the arb year as well…….Cashman is going to bring him up when the time is right for him to succeed and when the failure rate is lowered……He’s the most celebrated farmhand since Phillip Hughes with unfair expectations that go with the label ” can’t miss “…….When he does get the call it’ll be for good….

  27. Ruby Tuesday February 19th, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    Big Trouble for G.M. Ahead ?


    ” Think of the F3DM as a Chevrolet Volt with a Wal-Mart price tag, a car with a large-capacity battery — that delivered 31 miles of uninterrupted pure-electric driving in testing — as well as a gasoline engine that gives it the ability to go an additional 300 miles. But while the Volt has a $41,000 price tag (before state and federal tax incentives), the F3DM — which does have an auxiliary audio input jack and a parking sensor — is expected to sell for less than $29,000. Incentives could drop the price closer to $20,000. ”


    Oh boy . May be G. M. gave out those bonuses too soon .

  28. m February 19th, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    How do you get the reporting date wrong? I guess he does talk or text anyone from the team. “See ya on Sat.”. “Sat?”

  29. West Coast Yankee Fan February 19th, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    If this has already been posted, apologies. Andrew Marchand has written a really superb article on Dellin Betances. It’s a great read and story.

  30. RhapsodyInBlue February 19th, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    Boston claims Aceves is healed, they snookered the Yankees, Cashman is dumb. Countless articles in the Boston media saying just that.

    One source who attended the pitcher’s workout at Fenway said that part of Aceves’ interest in the Sox was driven by his desire to beat the Yankees.

  31. PhiltheThrill February 19th, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    Montero absolutely wrecked our system on the way up. We haven’t had anyone do that with our current collection of pitchers parks. And he’s been young for every league. This is what a great player does. He’ll beat these guys out.

  32. m February 19th, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    So, your prediction is Montero will be the opening day catcher? Even though he’s not a finished product behind the plate? And when I say that, I’m not saying he can’t catch, I’m referring to the fact that they’re tweaking things like how he squads back there.

  33. m February 19th, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    Squats. :P

  34. West Coast Yankee Fan February 19th, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    Phil, why do you think the Yankees signed Russell Martin and then pronounced him the starting catcher? Think about it. There is nothing to be gained by rushing Montero at this point; everyone knows he is close. He still has a few question marks defensively and this spring he’ll have the benefit of working with Tony Pena, Joe Girardi and Jorge Posada. There is more to be gained by him playing every single day in SWB than playing occasionally in the Bronx.

  35. Pat M. February 19th, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    Aceves could comeback and sting the Bombers no doubt……However with the current staff concerns there had to be something that concerned the Front Office to allow him to walk……If he comes back to health he’ll help The BoSox the question is to what degree

  36. Against All Odds February 19th, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    # RhapsodyInBlue February 19th, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    Boston claims Aceves is healed, they snookered the Yankees, Cashman is dumb. Countless articles in the Boston media saying just that.

    One source who attended the pitcher’s workout at Fenway said that part of Aceves’ interest in the Sox was driven by his desire to beat the Yankees.…..n-yankees/


    Hopefully Cashman is right about his back

  37. PhiltheThrill February 19th, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    West Coast,

    To remover pressure from the position. They want to make Po the DH and Cervelli was the only other catcher on the roster in that case. But they are not paying Martin enough to block Montero and Montero is just flat out better.

  38. m February 19th, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    Aceves sounds bitter. But he hasn’t been healthy for almost two years. Hopefully we won’t see him in any games. I’m tired if the back and forths at Fenway.

  39. Nick in SF February 19th, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    I would pay $25 to see Montero be so awesome this Spring that he forces the team’s hand and earns a spot on the 25-man roster for Opening Day.

    Another way to put that is that I would be happy to bet $25 that it doesn’t happen.

  40. UnKnown February 19th, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    WCYF Can’t argue one slot on your prediction. Looks great to me.

  41. West Coast Yankee Fan February 19th, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    Phil – it’s not always about better right now, it’s about developing a huge prospect and catcher in the right way and setting him up to succeed not fail.

  42. GreenBeret7 February 19th, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    The last Yankee rookie to be earn the front line catcher’s job was Thurman Munson, but he had 26 games from the year before. It’s not going to happen before next year.

  43. Your Worst Nightmare February 19th, 2011 at 10:41 pm

    Martin was signed due to him being available, at a relatively low cost and wanting to play in NY. If he stays healthy he and Cervelli will be the C’s with Posada possibly getting a game or two here and there. Montero needs to play every day and continue to work on his skills behind the plate at SWB.

  44. Pat M. February 19th, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    Phil…..Once again Montero has yet to catch a single pitch and see a pitch to hit at The MLB level……We’re not going to see him until September call ups or if somebody gets hurt……And then as WCYF pointed out lose a year on the Arb meter ????

  45. Your Worst Nightmare February 19th, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    If this is indeed Posada’s last year then the DH slot opens up in addition to possibly taking Cervelli’s spot in 2012.

  46. blake February 19th, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    I think the plan is and will be for Martin to start the year catching if he is 100% by opening day but I do think they’ll have a quick hook if it’s clear Montero is ready and that Martin isn’t looking like the guy from 2 years ago. Jason Heyward was supposed to start 2010 in AAA as well I believe…..he gave them no choice but to change their minds.

  47. blake February 19th, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    I think there is a good chance we might see him in NY before September….

  48. m February 19th, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    We’ve seen the Yankees spit on the arb meter before. IMO it’s about him not be quite ready for prime time and the fact that we have another option.

  49. Your Worst Nightmare February 19th, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    WC, good point about the extra arb. year with the potential midseason call up.

  50. PhiltheThrill February 19th, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    Pat, there are such things as rookie catchers. Martin has sucked for 2 years, and the Yanks don’t tolerate sucky players among their starters. He’ll buy Montero time if he needs it, but there is no evidence that he we’ll need it.

  51. blake February 19th, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    The Yanks generally don’t care about losing the extra year before arbitration…..if the player can help the team that sways takes priority.

  52. West Coast Yankee Fan February 19th, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    The only slot that game me pause was Eduardo Nunez or Pena. I opted for better defense and letting Nunez play every day at SWB since the Yankees think he could eventually replace Jeter down the road.

  53. blake February 19th, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    * always*

  54. Your Worst Nightmare February 19th, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    m, backs ( he has a disc problem ) are a tricky thing, I’ll say that Boston ends up eating the Aceves contract when he lands back on the DL. Absolutely about him not being able to stay healthy the last couple of years.

  55. West Coast Yankee Fan February 19th, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    Blake I agree, it’s just a factor. It’s not the primary reason I think Montero will start the season in SWB.

  56. m February 19th, 2011 at 10:50 pm

    The only scenario that can change my mind is if Martin can’t catch because of injury or health.

    McGee just dunked 3 balls. This year’s contest has been great so far. Not a dud dunk yet.

  57. GreenBeret7 February 19th, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    Blake, much of Montero’s call-up om Martin being healthy and effective, Cervelli not repeating lasy year and Posada, who, I think could ge 25-30 starts behind the plate if any of the first 2 happen. Montero would probably get a call-up around mid-June, especially if NYYs need a bat.

  58. UnKnown February 19th, 2011 at 10:53 pm

    I don’t like how they get to try the same dunk 10 times till they get it down. Takes some of the luster off of it.

  59. Vineyard Yankee February 19th, 2011 at 10:53 pm


    Nice roster. I’m hoping that Prior is lights out and makes the team, that guy has been through the wringer and deserves a break as does Chavez who has been bitten by the injury bug for several years.

  60. GreenBeret7 February 19th, 2011 at 10:53 pm

    Montero’s call-up ***will depend on*** Martin being

  61. Pat M. February 19th, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    Phil……GB makes a great point about Munson’s callup….Keep in mind Thurman was a finished product defensively when he came to the Bronx….Montero is not there yet and I do understand your point about rookie catchers, however besides the glove demands that come with the position there’s the calling of pitches and all the other under the radar aspects of the game……..Martin is going to surprise you Phil and once he establishes this the talk of bringing Montero up before he’s ready will be put to rest……His time will come when the risk for failure is minimized

  62. blake February 19th, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    I think Montero will likely start out at SWB just because that seems to be where their approach is leading. They want to make sure he’s ready and ease him in. Martin gives them the ability to call on him when they want instead of having to place tons of pressure on him out of the gate….I think that’s fine….I just want them to go ahead and bring him into the fold as soon as he’s ready. The struggles he has early could pay off down the stretch……the sooner you play, the sooner you struggle, the sooner you learn, and the sooner you reach your potential.

  63. GreenBeret7 February 19th, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    Nunez showed last August and September that he could hit and field after sitting for long stretches. I’ll take Nunez over Pena any day.

  64. blake February 19th, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    GB ,

    Yea I agree if Martin is doing the job then why rush it but if Montero is destroying AAA then they may want that bat……we are just gonna have to see how it unfolds.

  65. PhiltheThrill February 19th, 2011 at 10:59 pm


    He’s got Joe and Tony to help him with the pitchers, and they all basically call their own. I love Thurm, but he didn’t even do what Montero did to our system. This kid may turn out to be the best hitter in baseball in the next few years. They can spot him a little now, but he’s got nothing to prove in the minors and, n Pena, he has a better catching coach in the bigs, too.

  66. Jerkface February 19th, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    Montero only needs to stay in the minors for 20 days to gain an extra year of team control. They could bring him up at the end of April or beginning of May.

  67. m February 19th, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    +1000000 for presentation on that dunk by Blake.

  68. GreenBeret7 February 19th, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    Montero still needs to build up the stamina to be an every day catcher. In 4 years, he’s caught just under 260 games. He’ll get there and he’ll be good. He’s still got a couple of things to work out, but, he’s a lot better than he’s ever gotten credit for.

  69. blake February 19th, 2011 at 11:06 pm

    I guess it is also possible that if Martin seems healthy and that he’ll be able to handle the bulk of the catching duties that they could carry both he and Montero north and send Cervelli to Scranton.

    I’m sure they don’t want Martin actually catching every day with his injury history. Montero could catch 2 games a week and DH 1 or 2 as well….I don’t really like this plan much because I think he needs to play and catch most every day to address the areas where he needs work….Girardi seemed fairly receptive to it in his quotes the other day though.

  70. m February 19th, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    Basically, both Cervelli and Martin would have to suck balls for Montero to be the starter this year. I know I would prefer a veteran presence behind the dish if we are lucky enough to make the playoffs this season. Will be tough since the Sox are so good they’ll take two of the four slots. :?

  71. blake February 19th, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    Cervelli isn’t a big league regular and Posada can’t stay healthy enough to do it anymore so its really up to Martin…..

  72. GreenBeret7 February 19th, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    Montero has a pretty good catcher as his hitting coach in Scranton. Butch Wynegar was a long time catcher and a 2 time all star.

  73. West Coast Yankee Fan February 19th, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    I’d rather Nunez play every day in SWB than sit on the bench in the Bronx.

  74. PhiltheThrill February 19th, 2011 at 11:13 pm

    Wynegar was fine. Pena is supposed to be one of the great catching coaches.

  75. West Coast Yankee Fan February 19th, 2011 at 11:13 pm

    Vineyard – if Prior has still got a bunch left in the tank that will be interesting but I think it’s a long shot.

  76. Triple Short of a Cycle February 19th, 2011 at 11:14 pm

    Remember when Nolan Ryan said he was going to go to a 4 man rotation with no pitch counts. Still waiting for that to happen

  77. UnKnown February 19th, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    Why is Joe Mauer always always such a painful interview to watch. The guy would’ve been in troube in New York. Just zero personality.

  78. pat February 19th, 2011 at 11:27 pm

    Sox don’t seem to like being called the “favorite” or the Yanks “underdogs”.

    The labels mean little once games start but the reluctance to embrace being called it is kind of odd.

  79. blake February 19th, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    The last thing the Sox want is the “best team money can buy label”…..

  80. UnKnown February 19th, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    The Sox and their fan base are just getting nervous.
    The season is about to start and their paper champ/king of the off season titles that they have been collecting are about to mean nothing once again. Titles are actually won on the field of play. A concept that their fans don’t want to have to grasp.

  81. m February 19th, 2011 at 11:40 pm

    I like the Us vs the World attitude. I think the players will feed off of it. Soft abs comfy don’t win championships.

  82. Vineyard Yankee February 19th, 2011 at 11:40 pm

    There are lots of ifs in camp with issues staying healthy, Prior, Garcia, Chavez, Martin and Colon who hasn’t pitched in two years is an accident looking for a place to happen.

    This is what ST is for though, so everything has a chance to shake out to mold the best team to go North.

  83. Your Worst Nightmare February 19th, 2011 at 11:42 pm

    Mauer is just a laid back small town type of guy who flies under the radar.

  84. m February 19th, 2011 at 11:42 pm

    Soft AND comfy. But soft abs won’t get it done either.

  85. pat February 19th, 2011 at 11:45 pm

    I thought “soft abs comfy” was another fat Yankee reference. :sad:

  86. tyanksfan36 February 19th, 2011 at 11:48 pm

    Here are the pictures that I took from today. They are mostly from the the Ted Williams museum and Hitters hall of fame. I think when I go back for a game this season I will spend a bit more time there. I also got some pretty fuzzy pictures that I took with my cellphone. I didnt see any of the Rays players and I didnt get autographs because the lines were just insane and I dont care enough about Rays players to stand in line for over an hour for an autograph.

  87. pat February 20th, 2011 at 12:27 am

    Yankee fan who has been alive for all 27 WS winning seasons (and 79 other ones too).

  88. West Coast Yankee Fan February 20th, 2011 at 12:31 am

    Wonderful, what a Yankee fan Helma Graham is! Too bad it was such a poorly written article. Thanks for posting.

  89. BIG AL February 20th, 2011 at 12:47 am

    Pat M. -

    As a Duke Blue Devils fan, I’d like to make a bet they go deeper into the tournament than your UCLA Bruins. Heck, the way UNC is playing these days, they might also. Coack K will have this team ready.

  90. BIG AL February 20th, 2011 at 12:48 am

    Got to go, Pat M., let me know.

  91. Pat M. February 20th, 2011 at 1:10 am

    pat…..That article failed to mention GB7 as he was at the Stadium opener when Ruth hit the first of his 714 dingers……

  92. Rich in NJ February 20th, 2011 at 1:50 am

    Extending Montero’s arbitration years would not be a big deal to a team that is spending $10m on a setup reliever.

    If you want to win-now, you do it with the same mindset, whether it means overpaying a setup reliever or burning an arbitration year.

  93. DadinIowa February 20th, 2011 at 1:56 am

    Pat M….. if Martin does not have a good spring, and Jesus is doing very well….. does that make Jesus the backup catcher… or does he still get sent back to Scranton?

  94. Bo knows February 20th, 2011 at 2:01 am

    People insist on discounting Cervelli. I believe two factors were involved last year. One, he was hurt and couldn’t throw and second he got run down as the season progressed. You don’t go for years known for defense and then all of a sudden come a cropper. Even after all that, a 350 OBP is not chopped liver. I think we’re in for a pleasant surprise with Cervelli this year. He is still developing and all he needs is time and reps. He and Gardner are my story lines of interest this year.

  95. Bo knows February 20th, 2011 at 2:30 am

    It’s funny. Offensively Martin and Cervelli are comparable. Martin is coming down with two years of suckage and he is the great hope. Cervelli is a kid coming up and he is not a Major League backup. Riiight.

    Cervelli effectively went from A ball to the Majors in 2009 after a broken wrist in 2008. Last year he was thrown into the cauldron again without the developmental years in the higher minors. Shades of “Brett Gardner is not a Major Leaguer” a year ago. He had a noodle arm, defensively he was a bust etc. A year later he was one of the top defensive OFs in the Majors and had a accurate arm with a quick release. Yankee fans want instant stardom or throw the child out with the bath water.

  96. timmyb72 February 20th, 2011 at 3:22 am

    I see Montero as the 3rd C and making the trip north and Cervelli going to Scranton. He will get enough AB’s catching 2 days a week and a 1-2 days as DH. His bat is too good!!!! This kid is ready for primetime right now!!!

  97. timmyb72 February 20th, 2011 at 3:25 am

    The problem with Cervelli is #1, he’s not that good a defensive C, sorry! He sucked at throwing out baserunners #2 – He has no power, zilch, zero, nada, 0 Hr’s, sorry, Montero gets the nod to go north as the back up C.

  98. timmyb72 February 20th, 2011 at 3:30 am

    What I think is funny is people on this blog think they know if someone is ready to play in the major leagues or not when they don’t even leave their living rooms. I would rather go by quotes from someone that sees that player play everyday, and Butch Wynegar has said that Montero is ready to play in the major leagues right now. He is ready defensively and definitely ready offensively according to Wynegar.

  99. West Coast Yankee Fan February 20th, 2011 at 3:36 am

    Cervelli is a story of interest this year and Martin is the great hope? Really?

  100. timmyb72 February 20th, 2011 at 3:49 am

    Montero is da man! My starting lineup for the Yanks:

    Jeter – .780 OPS
    Swish – .865 OPS
    Tex – .930 OPS
    A-Rod – .910 OPS
    Cano – 1.038 OPS
    Posada – .815 OPS
    Montero – .843 OPS
    Grandy – .829 OPS
    Gardner – .774 OPS

    Tell me that isn’t a kick ass lineup!

  101. timmyb72 February 20th, 2011 at 3:54 am

    Cervelli sucks plain and simple. he is not a WS caliber backup, no power whatsoever, and is very, very over rated defensively.

  102. Jerkface February 20th, 2011 at 3:59 am

    Cervelli sucks plain and simple. he is not a WS caliber backup, no power whatsoever, and is very, very over rated defensively.

    Cervelli took a step backwards defensively in 2010 but he is not overrated. 41% CS rate in the minors, followed by a 43% rate in 09.

  103. Bo knows February 20th, 2011 at 4:25 am

    Irritating chihuahuas tonight.

  104. West Coast Yankee Fan February 20th, 2011 at 4:36 am

    Cervelli is a backup at best anyway you slice it, at least for the Yankees. So what makes him important? With Martin, Montero and Posada and Romine and Sanchez down the road – Cervelli is and will always be that. I think he’ll make the 25 man but that’s far from a certainty.

  105. Bo knows February 20th, 2011 at 4:39 am

    Both Martin and Montero are additive graduates. What the future holds is open to debate. The present problem with Montero is lack of lower half quickness. Him catching someone like Burnett or Sabathia is contra indicated.

    I agree with Randy I that Cervelli was way too hyper behind the plate. You want a quiet reciever back there. All it did was wear down his stamina. Maybe Girardi can tone him down this year. Power – Power always comes last and he’s two years post the broken wrist.

  106. West Coast Yankee Fan February 20th, 2011 at 4:51 am

    I don’t think there is much debate as to Montero’s future. Like perhaps none.

  107. West Coast Yankee Fan February 20th, 2011 at 5:16 am

    No prospect is a sure thing, but Montero is as close as you can get. All signs point to him bring a great hitter in the big leagues and he has improved behind the plate. The development folks say he’s ready – they just want to break him in slowly which is smart. I can’t wait to see Montero with the Yankees.

  108. Doreen February 20th, 2011 at 7:09 am

    Good morning, morning people. :)

    Boy was it COLD last night! Especially since the preceding two days had been so mild. Fickle February.

    But next week at this time, the Yankees will have played their first spring training game and it will feel like spring no matter what!

    I was glad to read in Chad’s post that Girardi will be looking at different lineup combinations. I had hoped he would, and pretty much though he would since spring training is the time to do such things. Whether he actually changes anything we’ll see, but the thinking is there.

    I was also happy to read about Girardi’s long-term approach to managing his players. I know many do not agree, and would prefer juggling the lineup over the course of the season. But I do agree with his approach that takes into account all of the things he mentioned. and the fact is, he does his fair share of lineup juggling (just look at the GTLU results for proof!!) within a certain framework.

    Anyway, let the games begin!

  109. pat February 20th, 2011 at 7:37 am

    Good Morning.

    It was cold last night and the wind was unbelievable.

    Have to make breakfast but thought I’d drop this in before ………..

    From NY Post:

    “Not only was Rodriguez’s weight down from 228 to 224, his body fat plummeted from 12 to 9 percent.”

    A 3% body fat decrease at his weight translates to 8 less pounds of fat and 4 additional lbs of muscle for a 4 lb. net loss.

    Wonder if they did the body fat % for everyone in camp? That would add some clarity to the Joba debate.

  110. upstate kate February 20th, 2011 at 7:47 am

    Good morning!!

    Cold and windy here to, altho the sun is brightly shining this am.

    Interesting thought Pat. They will probably not share that info w/ us!

  111. Doreen February 20th, 2011 at 7:51 am

    Wish I could have 9 pct. body fat! (But then I guess I’d have to work out like a madwoman, no?)


    Did the Yankees do the body fat calculation, or did ARod have that information ready for them?

    Perhaps the reporters will now clamor for the BMI or body fat % of ALL the players?

  112. upstate kate February 20th, 2011 at 7:52 am

    never mind the reporters, I am sure some of our posters will do the same :)

  113. blake February 20th, 2011 at 7:58 am

    That’s great news about Alex…..I really believe he has at least one more monster season in him…..maybe more. He just needs a full season of good health.

  114. Doreen February 20th, 2011 at 7:59 am

    upstate kate -

    Probably. :)

  115. Doreen February 20th, 2011 at 8:00 am

    Speaking of body fat, murphydog, if you are lurking this morning, we are going to Emma’s Ale House this afternoon. :)

  116. Ys Guy February 20th, 2011 at 8:15 am

    morning morning people! joel sherman has some prespective on the yankees pitching staff situation in today’s post.

    im looking forward to ed randall’s show on the fan this morning, he always has good guests. (think he’s on at 9)

  117. pat February 20th, 2011 at 8:24 am

    I don’t know if the Yankees did the testing or Alex had it done on his own but we’ve been told Alex didn’t speak with the witers so someone from the Yankees had to have had the info to share.

    I went to Emma’s a few weeks ago for lunch- Salmon BLT.

  118. Ys Guy February 20th, 2011 at 8:30 am

    new post (arrow thingy)

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