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The gang’s all here

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 19, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Spring training is about to get a little more lively.

Position players report today for their physicals, They’ll be in and out of the clubhouse throughout the morning, though I’m sure we’ll never see some of the guys. Physicals started at 7:30, so some guys have been here for a while.

First full-squad workout isn’t until tomorrow. Derek Jeter will address the media Sunday. Alex Rodriguez will do his press conference on Monday. No specific reason for the Jeter and Rodriguez events, those two are simply the most prominent Yankees and they’re going to be surrounded by media one way or the other. Might as well do it in an organized setting.

As for the early morning work, Mark Prior was on the field when I got to the stadium. He’ll be one of the guys throwing an early one-on-one bullpen with Larry Rothschild.

Associated Press photo of Granderson and Golson at the minor league complex earlier this week

 
 

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39 Responses to “The gang’s all here”

  1. pat February 19th, 2011 at 9:20 am

    Chad

    Thanks for the answer on why the press conferences.

  2. Fran the original February 19th, 2011 at 9:38 am

    Doreen,

    Glad the set up is going well. I am going computer shopping this weekend. Leaning toward the Apple, but just want to go look. Plus if I get the Apple,you’ll be able to advise me on the set-up :)

  3. Dionysius Thelxinoe February 19th, 2011 at 9:58 am

    Repost

    Ys Guy says:
    February 19, 2011 at 9:19 am
    heres the thing with cabrera, the team cant decide if miguel needs rehab, only miguel can do that. the tigers seem to be tackling this situation by thinking about what it looks like in the press,imo

    ———————

    Ys Guy, the guy showed up for a game still reeling from a night of drunkenness. And not just any game, but the season-ending series with the Twins to determine first place. And they lost as he took a collar. That was back in ’09, btw.

    I think they have been GIVEN the right to determine what’s needed … by Cabrera himself.

  4. BoJo February 19th, 2011 at 10:05 am

    When the Tigers come to town, let’s all chip in and send a keg up to Cabrera’s hotel room, ok?

  5. Ys Guy February 19th, 2011 at 10:06 am

    dt he spend months in rehab last offseason after that incident. obviously it didn’t work. i can tell you as someone who has been there that until the person is ready to deal with his demons, it does no good to push him into another rehab.

    also he is an employee under contract and to my knowlege has not shown up drunk for work. unless they suspend him, they have to allow him to play.

    i hope he gets help but it cant be forced.

  6. Ys Guy February 19th, 2011 at 10:09 am

    another thing to consider is that the when the courts and employers force people into rehab who dont really want to stop drinking, it adversly effects the other people in the rehab who really have hit bottom.

  7. Doreen February 19th, 2011 at 10:09 am

    Fran -

    Have fun shopping!

  8. pat February 19th, 2011 at 10:12 am

    “……unless they suspend him, they have to allow him to play.”

    It would be cutting off your nose to spite your face in the short run because he’s such a force as a player but……they don’t have to allow him to play.

    They have to pay him but his playing time is not contractually guaranteed.

    It would be a bold move but maybe a bold move is a necessary wake-up call.

  9. SJ44 February 19th, 2011 at 10:12 am

    When Cabrera was 20, he showed up for an ESPN The Magazine shoot (at 10 am) so drunk and belligerent, he freaked out everybody associated with the shoot.

    He frequently was stopped by the cops in Miami drunk and was given a ride home.

    The kid has a big time drinking problem.

    He doesn’t “have” to be allowed to play. If after his evaluation, it’s deemed he needs another stint in rehab, that’s where he is going to end up.

    Everybody in the game has known of Cabrera’s problems. It’s why many were surprised the Tigers gave him the big deal and made him the face of the franchise.

    They have to now figure out the best way to get him the help he needs.

    Not getting help, simply to try and win games, seems to be a foolish way to go given the latest incident.

  10. pat February 19th, 2011 at 10:15 am

    BloggingBombers Anyone hoping for a Pujols-Teixeira trade, it ain’t happening. “I’ve got that no-trade for a reason. I’m not going anywhere.”

  11. BoJo February 19th, 2011 at 10:15 am

    SJ44 February 19th, 2011 at 9:41 am

    Bojo believes WAr is going to be the penultimate stat future HOF voters use.

    I guess because as more sabermetrically inclined voters gain privileges, he believes they will vote based on a single stat theory.

    Most sabermetricians I know don’t view it that way.

    Jim Edmonds is not a HOF player. One only has to view his career in it’s entirety to see that.

    It’s called the Hall of Fame, not Hall of the Above Average Major Leaguer.

    Which is why Edmonds won’t be a HOF’er.
    ____________
    I do believe that WAR will be the most important factor. I am not saying it should be, nor am I saying that sabermetricians think it should be (they don’t vote).

    What I am saying is that the voters for the most part have proven that many of them are fairly lazy and prone to accepting arguments put out by others. They have shown themselves to be capable of being influenced to vote a different way for CY award, and they have also shown themselves to be accepting of HOF candidates that many feel were not to the standard of what the HOF shouldbe.

    My point is that like it or not, get used to a watered down HOF standard where WAR will be the dominant stat, and that as a result Jim Edmonds will be in there.

    You can no more stop the trend than not liking the past 2-3 CY award winners stoppped the shift in voting behavior for that award.

  12. Against All Odds February 19th, 2011 at 10:16 am

    # pat February 19th, 2011 at 10:15 am

    BloggingBombers Anyone hoping for a Pujols-Teixeira trade, it ain’t happening. “I’ve got that no-trade for a reason. I’m not going anywhere.”

    ———————————

    *dusts off hands*

    And that’s the end of that

  13. Rich in NJ February 19th, 2011 at 10:16 am

    From experience, the only way a person with a substance issue can get better is if s/ he hits rock bottom. When you make a boatload of money, it’s very hard to reach that point. So I’m not optimistic that Cabrera will get any better any time soon.

  14. Rich in NJ February 19th, 2011 at 10:17 am

    Teix probably isn’t going anywhere, but what else would you expect him to say?

  15. J. Alfred Prufrock February 19th, 2011 at 10:17 am

    alcoholism is an illness,not something to joke about.Cabrera needs professional help.I hope he gets it.

  16. Dionysius Thelxinoe February 19th, 2011 at 10:19 am

    Ys Guy, since you’ve been there, I defer to you on what does or doesn’t work. But he HAS shown up for work drunk, for all intents and purposes.

  17. BoJo February 19th, 2011 at 10:19 am

    SJ44 February 19th, 2011 at 10:12 am

    Everybody in the game has known of Cabrera’s problems. It’s why many were surprised the Tigers gave him the big deal and made him the face of the franchise
    _________________
    Did anybody tell this guy about that face of franchise thing?

    http://superitch.com/images/20.....-Tiger.jpg

  18. Ys Guy February 19th, 2011 at 10:20 am

    anyone who has any familiarity with alcoholsim and recovery will tell you that until the drinker comes for help, it will do no good. and everybody wants to get on thier high horse, but these drinking problems have been going on as long as the game itself has been played. the game itself takes billions to promote drinking and looks the other way at what is going on in the stands when all those people drink all that beer.

    what makes anyone think that another rehab is going to work if he doesnt want to go? it didnt last time and recovery experts will tell you it almost never works. maybe it will make you feel better but where does that help the situation any?

  19. Against All Odds February 19th, 2011 at 10:20 am

    Rich in NJ February 19th, 2011 at 10:16 am

    the only way a person with a substance issue can get better is if s/ he hits rock bottom.

    ——————-

    tell that to my uncle

  20. BoJo February 19th, 2011 at 10:22 am

    J. Alfred Prufrock February 19th, 2011 at 10:17 am

    alcoholism is an illness,not something to joke about.Cabrera needs professional help.I hope he gets it.
    ___________
    True–but I find it really hard to feel sorry for a jerk making millions and behaving like that. No croc tears here.

  21. blake February 19th, 2011 at 10:22 am

    Which is better? 5/115 for Teixera or 10/300 for Pujols? That would probably be the difference starting in 2012.

  22. J. Alfred Prufrock February 19th, 2011 at 10:23 am

    AAO – If I may say so,your uncle needs your compassion.Being a slave to alchohol is not in the least fun,and some of the most “upstanding” people have this problem.It’s not about sloth and “weakness,”it’s much more complicated than that.

  23. blake February 19th, 2011 at 10:23 am

    Cabrera is the 2nd best hitting talent in the game….I hope he gets the help he needs and doesn’t ruin it for himself.

  24. BoJo February 19th, 2011 at 10:24 am

    Blake–

    Tex’s contract is better…Montero needs a place to land in a few years, and until then can be our Albert Pujols at DH for a lot less money

  25. Rich in NJ February 19th, 2011 at 10:24 am

    “tell that to my uncle”

    If he needs help, I hope he gets it.

    I was very young when I did substances, but it took a while to decide that the situation was intolerable.

  26. blake February 19th, 2011 at 10:26 am

    Bojo,

    Yea I agree….Pujols is the best player in baseball right now but for how much longer. St. Louis has probably already gotten the majority of his best years. Its one thing for the Cardinals to pay him for what he’s done in the past and what he’s meant to their franchise….the Yankees shouldn’t pay for it though.

  27. BoJo February 19th, 2011 at 10:26 am

    JAP–

    I deal with a lot of alcoholics in volunteer work, and I don’t believe in enabling them. Sometimes tough love is what is needed. They tend to be very manipulative people, and will do anyting to avoid facing their problems. Compassion just feeds into their addiction IMO.

  28. BoJo February 19th, 2011 at 10:27 am

    Blake–

    Preaching to the choir. Exactly!

  29. BoJo February 19th, 2011 at 10:29 am

    :arrow:

  30. Against All Odds February 19th, 2011 at 10:30 am

    # J. Alfred Prufrock February 19th, 2011 at 10:23 am

    AAO – If I may say so,your uncle needs your compassion.Being a slave to alchohol is not in the least fun,and some of the most “upstanding” people have this problem.It’s not about sloth and “weakness,”it’s much more complicated than that.

    ————————————–

    I understand where you’re coming from but he’s one of those guys that doesn’t want compassion at all. He had a very nice job at Fedcap as a janitor but he threw that away with his antics.

  31. Dionysius Thelxinoe February 19th, 2011 at 10:32 am

    BoJo, you’re certainly entitled to your opinion, bit I think it’s kinda harsh. Cabrera’s obviously a troubled soul, and his wealth doesn’t change that.

    Ys Guy, you’re right, rehab didn’t work. But the Tigers have to do something. I would hope they consult the experts and be guided by their advice. It’s in the best interest of both the team and Cabrera that they help him however they can.

  32. Ys Guy February 19th, 2011 at 10:33 am

    when i was in rehab there was this rich kid there who didnt want to be there. him and 2 buddies got into heavy trouble including dwi and were basically told by the judge and lawyers that they could either go to jail, join the military or go to rehab. his buddies went into the army and he came to rehab b/c his parents had the money.
    he didnt want to be there and was disruptive, uncooperative and even hostile to all the others there. it greatly increased the stress on everyone else there and greatly detracted from the atmosphere. finally after a few weeks they threw him out.
    he definitly adversly effected the recovery or every other person in that setting and the coucelors said this was often a problem when people are forced into go to rehab.
    i havent had a drink in the 20 years that have passed but unfortunatly i was the exception.

    forcing people into rehab just doesnt work.

  33. Against All Odds February 19th, 2011 at 10:33 am

    # Rich in NJ February 19th, 2011 at 10:24 am

    “tell that to my uncle”

    If he needs help, I hope he gets it.

    I was very young when I did substances, but it took a while to decide that the situation was intolerable.

    ——————————-

    Good to know you were able overcome the substances that you battled with as a youth.

    He has received tremendous help over the past couple of yrs. He beat alcoholism many yrs ago but back in 2005 or 2006 he had a drink at his bachelor party and it started back up.

  34. BoJo February 19th, 2011 at 10:37 am

    Dionysius Thelxinoe February 19th, 2011 at 10:32 am
    ______________
    Let’s put it this way. After seeing so many alcoholics, I despise the disease and their behavior, and feel the only way to deal with them is tough love. I’ve seen it work.

    Cabrera–if possible–should be suspended without pay until he rehabs himself. Let him face the consequences of his actions.

    Will that happen?–not likely with the union. But I think it should.

  35. J. Alfred Prufrock February 19th, 2011 at 10:42 am

    Bojo _ you mistake compassion for “weak” love.that’s your error.one has nothing to do with the other.Enabling and compassion aren’t in the least related.I have to go out now,but I would be more than happy to discuss this at a later time.

    ///

    AAO – I understand.the point still stands,though.being compassionate does not mean giving someone a “pass.”have a good day,all.

  36. Against All Odds February 19th, 2011 at 10:44 am

    # J. Alfred Prufrock February 19th, 2011 at 10:42 am

    Bojo _ you mistake compassion for “weak” love.that’s your error.one has nothing to do with the other.Enabling and compassion aren’t in the least related.I have to go out now,but I would be more than happy to discuss this at a later time.

    ///

    AAO – I understand.the point still stands,though.being compassionate does not mean giving someone a “pass.”have a good day,all.

    ———————————————–

    That’s true it doesn’t.

    Take care JAP

  37. Ys Guy February 19th, 2011 at 10:46 am

    cabrera carelessly put other’s lives at risk and then, when stopped by the cops was an ahole looking to get off because he’s a mlb star. that deserves harsh condemnation. being drunk is no excuse and people shouldnt cut him any slack because he has a drinking problem.

    and even though bojo’s joke was edgy, i laughed, it was funny.

    i hope miguel gets help but he doesnt deserve any slack for the jerk he has been just because he was drunk.

  38. 108 stitches February 19th, 2011 at 11:11 am

    No time is a good time for a team to have disruption but with Miguel Cabrera having issues before his team has played even one exhibition game sets a bad tone.
    He needs to get help sooner than later. A bandaid his been put on him too many times already.

  39. Ys Guy February 19th, 2011 at 2:38 pm

    its no better to live your life fearing that you will regret things than regretting what you actually did.


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