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New C seeks P for long-term, winning relationship

Posted by: Sam Borden - Posted in Misc, Podcast on Feb 24, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Joe Girardi was asked earlier today if he ever just “clicked” with a pitcher and he mentioned two very different guys in terms of how they pitched: David Cone, who threw all types of different pitches; and Jon Lieber, who basically threw two. To Girardi, that just showed how important the personality aspect of the pitcher-catcher relationship is.

“Some guys are hard to talk to during a game, and you may not be able to get their attention for a two- or three-minute conversation,” Girardi said. “Maybe there are two words you can say that makes it click for them. You have to learn all that as a catcher. That rapport is extremely important. It’s a trust.”

Russell Martin is trying to build that trust this spring. In my column for tomorrow’s paper, I wrote about that extra challenge for Martin (in addition to getting himself healthy and getting ready for a full season) and likened the process to speed-dating. Time is short for Martin, who isn’t yet 100 percent healthy, but he has to find ways to connect with his pitchers and learn about what makes them tick.

“Every day I learn something,” Martin said, and he added that having Jorge Posada available to help has been valuable. “He knows all the guys better than anybody here,” Martin said, “so (I) pick his brain for sure.”

If you’re interested, take a listen to the audio from the interview with Martin below.

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* I know that might be a little too “artsy” of a photo of Martin and CC Sabathia but I just kind of liked it. I think the shadows are cool.

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68 Responses to “New C seeks P for long-term, winning relationship”

  1. Nick in SF February 24th, 2011 at 6:30 pm

    It kind of looks like they’re standing on the green talking over a long put.

  2. Ruby Tuesday February 24th, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    L . o . l .

  3. Ruby Tuesday February 24th, 2011 at 6:32 pm

    Any injuries from Yankee camp today ?

  4. Dionysius Thelxinoe February 24th, 2011 at 6:33 pm

    Sam, very impressive the way you just eased right into that plug for your column. I like it!

  5. MTU February 24th, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    The Catcher.

    1 part MLB ballplayer.

    1 part strategic thinker.

    1 part motivational speaker.

    1 part brick wall.

    :)

  6. austinmac February 24th, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    MTU,

    I did get the photos. Beautiful. Thanks so much.

    Question–Cashman said very recently his work isn’t done. Can you see what more he can do until we near the trade deadline? I can’t imagine a big pitching upgrade is waiting to be scooped up.

  7. MTU February 24th, 2011 at 6:45 pm

    Austin-

    IMO that was Cashman-speak for “it’s a process”.

    Eye towards future opportunities that might present themselves rather than something that is imminent.

    Who knows when that might be ?

    The probabilitiy is that we’ll have what we have until the TD.

    You never know though.

    We have lot’s of competitors for the back end.

  8. 108 stitches February 24th, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    Uh oh ! ………….

    http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....w_she.html

  9. Rich in NJ February 24th, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    They really need to take it slow with Martin, even if it means a reduced role early on.

  10. Joe from Long Island February 24th, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    108 stitches – I’m surprised Boston hasn’t yet been linked to Kevin Millwood. They look to have a greater need for him than the Yanks.

  11. pat February 24th, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    When he’s on MLB Network and everyone is throwing love at Robbie, Bowa has to feel a little like a proud papa.

    All things happen for a reason but….he sounds like he still has such a strong bond with some of the Yankee players that it makes me sad he followed Torre to LA.

  12. Rich in NJ February 24th, 2011 at 7:09 pm

    Yup, Bowa was great here.

  13. BoJo February 24th, 2011 at 7:11 pm

    When Mattingly is fired, I expect Bowa to come back

  14. pat February 24th, 2011 at 7:14 pm

    Bowa’s working for MLB Network now.

  15. Bronx Jeers February 24th, 2011 at 7:14 pm

    When Mattingly is fired, I expect Bowa to come back

    ————————————————————————–

    Huh?

  16. Dionysius Thelxinoe February 24th, 2011 at 7:16 pm

    Rich in NJ says:
    February 24, 2011 at 7:05 pm
    They really need to take it slow with Martin, even if it means a reduced role early on.

    ———

    Agree. And with Cervelli determined to win a roster spot, Montero knocking on the door, and Posada still around, “just in case,” they appear to have that luxury.

  17. blake February 24th, 2011 at 7:19 pm

    MTU,

    Sorry my phone died earlier…..If Carp were made available (he said today he’d wave his no trade if the Cards wanted to deal him) I would love for the Yanks to get him assuming he’s healthy.

    He’s a really good pitcher and would be a great #2 or 3. I wouldn’t give up any of the top 5 guys for him at 36 years old and with him being so close to free agency…but I’d consider dealing some of the excess arms they have or someone like Adams maybe for him…..he could help them down the stretch and they’d have the option to bring him back for 2012 if they chose….or let him walk and receive the picks…..

  18. blake February 24th, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    Joe,

    Considering the Sox have nothing beyond their 5th starter, that’s probably true.

  19. 108 stitches February 24th, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    Joe from Long Island February 24th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
    108 stitches – I’m surprised Boston hasn’t yet been linked to Kevin Millwood. They look to have a greater need for him than the Yanks.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Joe :

    Exactly right. Eventually it will show up with Boston lacking depth. All they can possibly do is throw $$$ around with a farm system having no trading chips.
    Millwood may be thinking St. Louis with Adam Wainwright now out for the year with TJ surgery.

  20. BoJo February 24th, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    I don’t followMLB network…I didn’t realize Bowa had left LA…I hope he comes back to Yankees.I loved him as 3rd base coach. very aggressive.

  21. MTU February 24th, 2011 at 7:27 pm

    Blake-

    Thanks for your take.

    Phelps went to school in Missouri I think.

    He might be a good fit for the Cards.

    We’ll see.

  22. blake February 24th, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    MTU,

    Yea I don’t know what he would cost….bidding would be probably primarily limited to the contending teams. I’m sure the Rangers would be involved for him as well.

  23. blake February 24th, 2011 at 7:33 pm

    Another guy the Cards might like….of course I like him to.

    Isaac (NYC)

    Haven’t heard much about Adam Warren recently from you or anyone. Does he have any potential? What is his most likely ultimate role?

    Klaw
    (1:23 PM)

    I wrote about him in September when I saw him in the playoffs. Good command of above avg fastball. Fifth starter in the AL East, but would like him a lot more in an NL rotation. May pitch above his repertoire because he locates.

  24. MTU February 24th, 2011 at 7:34 pm

    Blake-

    Cashman will see what opportunities present themselves by the TD.

    If we’re really lucky we may not need anyone.

    However, a guy like Carpenter would really help in the PS assuming we got there.

  25. MTU February 24th, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    Blake-

    Yeah. Warren might be an option along with Mitchell. I’m not sure about this but Warren might have more upside than Phelps.

    GB might have an opinion on that. He’s seen them both.

    They both have middle to back end potential according to the SR’s.

  26. Rich in NJ February 24th, 2011 at 7:42 pm

    The Cards would probably want a lot for Carpenter.

  27. blake February 24th, 2011 at 7:43 pm

    MtU,

    I would say Warren does have.more upside than Phelps but I like them both.

    The Cards are gonna try and compete without Wainwrigh but my guess is that they may be sellers if they are 5 or more games out by the end of May. We’ll just have to see. Yanks may not even need a starter by then…..who knows.

  28. blake February 24th, 2011 at 7:45 pm

    Rich,
    They may want a lot but Im not sure they’d get a lot considering his age and that he’d cost 15 million in 2012 if his option were picked up. Recent history suggests that teams don’t get as much as you’d think in these type deals at the deadline.

  29. MTU February 24th, 2011 at 7:46 pm

    Rich-

    They might ask for the Moon but if I were the Yankees I wouldn’t give up too much for him.

    His 2012 option is for around 15 mil and he has long and storied injury history.

    He’s great when healthy and certainly would be excellent for a PS spot.

    He is not a long term solution.

  30. blake February 24th, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    I seriously doubt the Cards are planning on picking up Carpenter’s option anyway….

  31. Rich in NJ February 24th, 2011 at 7:48 pm

    blake

    His ERA+ in the last two seasons was 182 and 122, respectively.

    If they trade him, how do they convince Pujols that his remaining prime years won’t be spent on a rebuilding team?

  32. G. Love February 24th, 2011 at 7:49 pm

    I also don’t think Carpenter will cost the Yankees any of the top 6-8 prospects in the deal. He’s 36, making a lot of money…I imagine if you offered some of the AAA starters for him you’d have the makings of a deal.

    The Yankees would nuts to trade any of the top pitching prospects and catchers in a deal for Carpenter.

    It pays to wait and see who else might shake loose from a team.

    That said, if we somehow fell like 8-10 games back and the starting pitching was to blame, opposing GM’s will have their pick of the litter of Yankees prospects in trades.

    There is no way the Yankees will write the season off for development. They can’t afford to risk the ticket/gate/concession revenue doing that would cause.

  33. Rich in NJ February 24th, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    MTU, you posted that while I was typing.

    I think he would make sense for the Yankees at the right price, but I think it would be tough for the Cards to move him at that price.

  34. MTU February 24th, 2011 at 7:51 pm

    Rich-

    I’m not sure th Cards are gonna be able to retain Sir Albert anyway.

    By playing it safe now they may have opened up a Pandora’s box.

    Loyalty only goes so far.

    ;)

  35. Rich in NJ February 24th, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    “There is no way the Yankees will write the season off for development. They can’t afford to risk the ticket/gate/concession revenue doing that would cause.”

    It’s the worst thing about being a Yankee fan.

    You’d hope the owners would understand how critical it is to not overpay in top prospects given that the Yankees could be in a (short) transition phase, but then there’s Hank…

  36. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 24th, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    By the grace of God and everything that is good on Heaven and Earth I finished my tax preparation. It took me until about 5:30 to get it altogether. Actually that Tax Act online was good enough that I really could have just filed using it. I’ll go to my tax accountant and if the figures are close I just might use Tax Act next year. Then I had to fax 2 documents (20 pages worth) to a client I’m attempting to collect money from. (Another attorney hired me to do it, for monies owed to him. Client won’t pay.) Well scanning documents to a home printer to prepare them for fax takes a lot longer than using the spiffy office fax machines! At this point my eyes are about crossed.

    If there is anyone jonesing for a QOTD I actually have one prepared. I can put it up and then run out and get myself something to eat. (so far my meals today have consisted of fresh blueberries.) If nobody really cares about a QOTD, or if you’re willing to wait, I’ll grab something to eat and put one up at 9.

  37. blake February 24th, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    Rich,

    That’s a good question but they may not be able to afford them both either. Let’s say they traded Carpenter to the Yankees for a package containing Warren. Short term the Cards could give Pujols 30 million, replace Carpenter with Warren in the rotation and really not raise payroll for 2012.

  38. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 24th, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    By the way, the daytime QOTD – question of the day for those who don’t recognize the acronym – has been moved to 2:00 p.m.

  39. Fran the original February 24th, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    Trisha,

    Glad Tax Act worked for you. It got a good write-up.

  40. tyanksfan36 February 24th, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    Trisha

    Good for you, I haven’t even started doing my taxes. All I need to file is a 1040EZ and I still have been putting it off, maybe ill do it over spring break.

  41. G. Love February 24th, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    Rich,

    While I agree with you in a sense that if the team is having a horror show season and is double digits back they should punt and get ready for the next season, I know the front office cannot afford to have an empty stadium in August and September.

    While people on the blogs would love to go see the young pitchers take their lumps in that scenario, the general public who drops the most of the coin on the team won’t go.

    The best case scenario for this season is the starting pitching holds up enough to allow Cashman not to get robbed in a deal out of desperation.

    If we have 5 capable starters, the opposing GM can’t push the Yankees around in a trade like they can if the rotation is floundering and ticket sales and attendance is in jeopardy.

    I’m sure a lot of opposing GM’s are licking their chops hoping the Yankees struggle so they can raid the system.

  42. Rich in NJ February 24th, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    blake

    We can hope.

  43. Fran the original February 24th, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    tyanks,

    How was your evaluation write-up? I’m sure you did well :)

  44. Rich in NJ February 24th, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    G. Love

    I think the WC would make that possibility unlikely.

    It’s not very often that an organization has talent on the level of Montero, Buenlos, Betances, and Brackman.

    The rotation is fragile and there are some important aging position players.

    Sometimes discretion if the better part of valor. This could be one of those times.

    If holes arise and they can move other assets to fill them, fine.

  45. MTU February 24th, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    G. Love-

    We will have one heck of a BP.

    Deep, versatile, and strong.

    If the offense improves over last year we could hold our own until the TD.

    AJ is a very big X factor but you would have to figure he improves over last season.

    I think garcia is capable as a # 4, and Nova or someone else ought to be able to hold down the back end.

    I don’t think we’ll be looking up at the sidewalk by the break.

  46. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 24th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    Fran, my sister with the shop in Newport suggested I get Quicken (?), QuickBooks (?) something like that. She said it is perfect for keeping track of business expenses. Trying to pull all of that stuff together was a bear. Figuring out mileage, money spent on my computer, money for office supplies, all of my legal expenses, it really was horrible. I have it put together so well that my tax accountant really doesn’t have much to do at all! I typed everything out neatly and put all the figures in!!

    :)

    But I am seriously bleary-eyed. Happy I got it done though.

    **********

    Tyanks, absolutely use that program Fran told me about. It will get it done for you in a blink and then I think you can just online file from the doc. Very nice.

  47. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 24th, 2011 at 8:04 pm

    Having heard no objections, I think I will grab something to eat. I’m happy to put up a question at 9 if anyone is interested in taking a stab at it.

    Be back.

  48. Fran the original February 24th, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    Trisha,

    You’re the kind of client a tax accountant likes. Making it really easy for him. Glad your part of it is done :)

  49. blake February 24th, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    I think the chances the Yanks make the playoffs is pretty good even if they make no moves. They are a good team as is….if guys step up in the rotation or they make a move to strengthen it then they’ll be a very good team.

  50. G. Love February 24th, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    MTU,

    I don’t think any team is going to run away with the division this year. I think the offensive improvements in Baltimore is going to create parity in the division. I don’t see the Red Sox as some juggernaut who is going to crush the East. I actually think 95 wins is going to take the division.

    Our bullpen will be a huge difference maker as long as the starters can give length.

    AJ really is the key to the season. If he falls apart mentally and mechanically, Cashman will be forced to deal and AJ will become a bitter long man in the pen. That’s a worst case scenario though and I don’t expect it to happen.

    As long as Nova, AJ and Garcia can throw quality starts I think we’ll be more than fine.

  51. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 24th, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    Please tell MTU that I am ordering pork souvlaki with an order or sweet potatoe fries. I hope he’ll think that’s worthy.

    :)

  52. MTU February 24th, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    Blake-

    The room for improvement in this year’s offense is great.

    A-Rod is 100%.

    Jeter is hungry.

    Texeira should be extra motivated.

    And GGBG is healthy again.

    Not to mention continued improvement from Grandy, and the possibility of Montero.

    The defense is solid.

    Lot’s of plusses to go with the minuses.

  53. austinmac February 24th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    What to give up for Carpenter is a good question. When healthy, he is a top ten pitcher. However, he has twice missed a season or more from injuries. Too risky for me unless a couple of mid-level prospects would do it. I would be willing to trade Romine and Phelps.

  54. blake February 24th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    MTU,

    Yea I agree. Good lineup, good defense, good bullpen, and good front of the rotation and probably a good bench. Its really a very solid team if AJ bounces back and a couple guys step up to fill out the back of the rotation.

  55. MTU February 24th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    Trisha-

    Very. I LOVE souvlaki and the SP fries are an excellent touch.

    Don’t forget to wash it all down with an ice cold cerveza.

    ;)

  56. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 24th, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    “Jeter is hungry.”

    Trisha is hungry too MTU. Pork souvlaki, sweet potatoe fries.

    :)

    Catch you in a while. Time to pick up the goodies.

  57. blake February 24th, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    Sweet potato fries are so good

  58. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 24th, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    You saw it! This place has crinkly thinnish fries that they almost burn. I love them! Show you a pic of them when I get back.

    Actually this is a picture of their fries. I guess they’re not so crinkly. But man are they good.

    http://www.urbanspoon.com/u/pr....._id=259635

  59. MTU February 24th, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    Blake-

    I’ll take an order of shelled oysters with hot sauce.

    A plate of Carolina pulled pork with greens.

    And an ice cold bottle of Dos Equis dark to wash it all down.

    And for Dessert expresso with Pecan pie.

    :)

  60. BoJo February 24th, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    Roy Oswalt trade of last year is probably a good benchmark to figuring out a Carpenter trade…personally, I would rather get Santana if healthy or just let one of the kids pitch (Brackman).

  61. MTU February 24th, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    Trisha-

    I can do well with the Baklava for dessert too.

  62. blake February 24th, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    MTU,

    man, you do have good taste…..Collards or Turnip?

  63. MTU February 24th, 2011 at 8:25 pm

    Collard.

    But a mixture is fine with me.

    You can throw in some black-eyed peas too.

    ;)

  64. Rich in NJ February 24th, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    BoJo

    What would you be willing to give up for Santana?

  65. blake February 24th, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    MTU,

    Yea I like to mix uhm up….maybe throw a little mustards in there too. Love black eyed peas as well with cornbread.

  66. BoJo February 24th, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    Rich–

    Mets take $9M off (rest of this year’s salary)…and he shows he is healthy

    I give them Romine, CuJo, Warren, Heath, and if necessary Nunez. Basically gives them up the middle defense and let’s them sell off Reyes to save money.

  67. MTU February 24th, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    Blake-

    I used to fly to Cary, N.C. a lot for buisness and I developed a taste for all that stuff.

    Of course, it didn’t hurt that I was on an expense account at the time.

    ;)

  68. BoJo February 24th, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    :arrow: Practicing for just in case

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