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Spring Training Game 4: Yankees at Pirates

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Gameday Thread on Mar 01, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

YANKEES (1-2)
Brett Gardner LF
Nick Swisher RF
Curtis Granderson CF
Jorge Posada DH
Eric Chavez 3B
Jesus Montero C
Eduardo Nunez SS
Brandon Laird 1B
Ramiro Pena 2B

RHP Phil Hughes (18-8, 4.19 in 2010)
Hughes vs. Pirates

PIRATES (2-2)
Alex Presley CF
John Bowker LF
Matt Diaz RF
Garrett Jones DH
Garrett Atkins 1B
Andy Marte 3B
Chris Snyder C
Josh Rodriguez 2B
Pedro Ciriaco SS

RHP James McDonald (4-6, 4.02)
McDonald vs. Yankees

TIME/TV: 1:05 p.m., not televised as far as I know

WEATHER: It’s still cloudy, but the tarp came off the field about an hour ago. Wind is blowing out to center field — maybe slightly to left-center — and it’s very muggy. Looks promising that they’ll play.

UMPIRES: HP Paul Emmel, 1B Wally Bell, 2B Tim Timmons, 3B Chad Fairchild

ON THE LINE: Phil Hughes was at the heart of last spring’s rotation competition, but he’s locked in this year. Instead, it’s the bottom half of today’s Yankees lineup that’s fighting for roster spots.

NEW EXPERIENCE: Exactly one current Pirate has a Major League at-bat against Phil Hughes. Lyle Overbay is 4-for-20 against him. Exactly one current Yankee has a Major League at-bat against James McDonald.

ALSO PITCHING TODAY: Dave Robertson, Steve Garrison, Brian Anderson and Andy Sisco were the first four names listed this morning, so I have to assume they’ll be the first four in the game. Boone Logan also made the trip, and it’s unlikely he’d go on the road unless he were guaranteed an inning.

ALSO PITCHING FOR PITTSBURGH: RHP Aaron Thompson, RHP Daniel McCutchen, RHP Chris Resop, LHP Daniel Moskos and RHP Ramon Aguero. McCutchen came up through the Yankees minor league system.

TOMORROW IN TAMPA: The Yankees return home tomorrow to play Houston, with RHP Bud Norris scheduled to start for the Astros. A.J. Burnett has the start for the Yankees. That game will be on YES.

UPDATE, 1:09 p.m.: After two ground outs by Gardner and Swisher, Granderson drove a triple to the warning track in center field. The center fielder seemed to have trouble going after it — maybe the wind was playing tricks — but misplayed or not, it was a legitimate drive to the deepest part of the park. Posada ended the inning with a 6-3 grounder.

UPDATE, 1:19 p.m.: After a leadoff walk, Hughes got a routine 4-6-3 double play and a fly out to right field to end the first inning. Swisher made a nice sliding catch — coming in toward the infield on a looping fly ball — for the last out.

UPDATE, 1:22 p.m.: Eric Chavez has opened the second inning with a bloop single to left field. Here’s Montero.

UPDATE, 1:23 p.m.: Montero grounds into a 5-4-3 double play. Baseball America has now moved Jorge Vazquez to the top of the Yankees prospect rankings. Montero has been dumped to No. 24.

UPDATE, 1:32 p.m.: That’s it for Hughes. Fly ball to right. Fly ball to center. Fly ball to left. The last out was pretty deep — Gardner was on the track, near the corner — but that’s ultimately two hitless innings in Hughes’ spring debut.

UPDATE, 1:39 p.m.: After a 1-2-3 top of the third — Gardner went down swinging to end it — Robertson is in to pitch for the Yankees.

UPDATE, 1:49 p.m.: Weird ending to the third inning. After a single — ground ball just past Chavez at third — and a strikeout, Robertson got another strikeout on a pitch most everyone seemed to think was ball four. The runner had taken off from first base, and he slowed up for the final 15 feet leading into second. Montero eventually threw — Robertson wasn’t expecting it — and threw out the base runner. Credit Montero with a caught stealing to end the inning, but it wasn’t a true steal attempt.

UPDATE, 1:56 p.m.: Chavez with his second bloop single of the day, this one to right field. The base hit came two batters after Swisher reached on an infield single. Montero grounded up the middle to end the inning. It’s still scoreless heading into the bottom of the fourth. Here’s Steve Garrison.

UPDATE, 2:02 p.m.: Now there’s a legitimate caught stealing. Might have been a botched hit-and-run, but Presley was legitimately going for second base and Montero threw him out with plenty of room to spare.

UPDATE, 2:04 p.m.: A lot of throwing this fourth inning. For the second out, Gardner tried to make a sliding catch, knocked the ball down in front of himself, then he hustled over to throw the runner out trying to stretch a single into a double. For the last out, Nunez made a fairly routine stop to his left, then uncorked a rocket to first base. Pena is a better defender, but Nunez can really throw the ball.

UPDATE, 2:29 p.m.: Hughes said he threw three changeups today: One to the first hitter, one to the second and one to Garrett Atkins in the second inning. He’ll throw more as he gets stretched out, but right now he wants to also get his curveball
going and find his fastball command.

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359 Responses to “Spring Training Game 4: Yankees at Pirates”

  1. MTU March 1st, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    Enjoy the game folks.

    Catch you all later.

  2. LGY March 1st, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    People, Betances already gave an interview and said where he was born and raised!

    What does it matter if Chad asks him the same question?

    If DB is wrong about where he grew up, then well I don’t know what to say.Too young to have memory loss :)

  3. coney1 March 1st, 2011 at 1:06 pm

    From NY Baseball Digest:

    Despite Cashman’s Denial, Yanks Moving Towards Liriano

    ——————————————————————————–
    By Frank Russo ~ March 1st, 2011. Filed under: New York Yankees, Rumor Mill.

    Bob Nightengale of USA Today reported yesterday that either Joba Chamberlain or Ivan Nova could be traded within two weeks for Twins lefty Francisco Liriano. Brian Cashman denied this to Wallace Matthew of ESPN New York later in the day.

    In speaking to my Tampa source, there are rumblings the Yankees are working towards a deal with Minnesota before the end of spring training. It would be either Nova, or Chamberlain, not both, and another player off the MLB roster. There is talk that Minnesota might ask for one of the Yankees outfielders. The Yankees would prefer to part ways with someone like Eduardo Nunez, Brandon Laird and/or include a player like a Adam Warren or David Phelps in a package. They do not, I repeat, do not want to include any of the Killer B’s if they don’t have to.

    Also, the reason why there is talk that a trade won’t happen for at least ten days is the fact that the Yankees want to wait and see how Liriano’s shoulder is by the end of that time. Cashman is very weary of Bill Smith and getting back damaged goods. The Yankees will want to look at his medical records and give him a full exam before any trade goes down.

  4. blake March 1st, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    GB,

    I agree with you that he will go to AA regardless …..my question is more should he? Obviously the Yanks know the kid better than I do and are better equipped to make that decision…..but I do think that these things should be handled on a more individual basis than maybe they are. There really is very little evidence to support that every pitcher needs X amount of innings in the minors before they are ready for the show…..each guy is different and should be handled as such IMO.

  5. doggfan7 March 1st, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    Is the link on MLB.com audio working? I’m just getting Rush Limbaugh.

  6. Tom in N.J. March 1st, 2011 at 1:09 pm

    Maybe Dellin was born in a hospital in Brooklyn but lived in WH as a baby.

    Hence the confusion…

  7. Bad Scooter March 1st, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    Same here. Have MLB At Bat 2011 and audio is not game.

  8. yankeefeminista March 1st, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    repost: yankeefeminista March 1st, 2011 at 1:09 pm
    mlb.com feed is broadcasting Rush Limbaugh instead of the Yankee game. Anyone have another link or is this game in a rain delay?

  9. Vineyard Yankee March 1st, 2011 at 1:13 pm

    pat March 1st, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    LMAO ! Great picture, perhaps you should send him a copy. I bet he hasn’t seen that one in years.

  10. yankeefeminista March 1st, 2011 at 1:13 pm

    Ok, sounds like a baseball commercial. Is there hope?

  11. Tarheel In NYC March 1st, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    Some advice from Joe Mauer ( who seems like an exceptionally good guy) to Jesus Montero, via BronxBaseballDaily.com:

    “Too big. Not quick enough. I heard everything under the sun,” Joe Mauer said about the same criticisms he received that Jesus Montero is receiving now.

    “My advice to him is try and learn as much as you can,” Mauer said. “He’s lucky he has Jorge Posada, a pretty good catcher to learn from. And he has Russell Martin there now, too, another good one to help him. Those two guys that have been around the block. He should follow those guys around and learn as much as he can.”

    “It’s important to get to know your customers,” Mauer said referring to his own pitching staff.

    “Know your staff and the little things that they respond to. You have to learn the pitchers and what they are capable of doing and not doing. Try to put your pitchers in the best situations they can to succeed.”

    The fact that the best catcher in baseball is excited about Montero and thinks that he can make it as a catcher says a lot. It goes even further because the two are similar in body-type as they are both extremely tall for their position.

    A lot of negative things have been written about Montero’s defensive abilities, but he should be given the benefit of the doubt until he shows he can or cannot get the job done defensively in the major leagues. The reason is because up until now very few eyes have been on him and he is still learning. Just the other day, Joe Girardi said that Montero looked a lot more comfortable behind the plate this spring than he did a year ago.

    At one point Mauer was in the same situation, young, still learning, and not a lot of eyes were on him. By the time he matured a bit, learned more about his position, and more people got to see him play, those criticisms went away. Maybe the same thing will happen with Montero. Maybe not, but we won’t know until he tries and tries at the major league level where everyone can see.

  12. Mike Ri March 1st, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    Tom in NJ . . LOL LOL LOL

  13. Tarheel In NYC March 1st, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    I should have indicated that my entire previous post was from BronxBaseballDaily.com. It contains none of my words (although I’m in agreement!.

  14. Vineyard Yankee March 1st, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    coney1 March 1st, 2011 at 1:06 pm

    Thanks for that post. Good read.

  15. blake March 1st, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    What outfielder would the Yanks include for Liriano…..certainly not one of their starters? They can have Colin Curtis.

  16. yankeefeminista March 1st, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    Lead off BB.

    Why no TV if we are at home? Grrr.

  17. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 1:18 pm

    Blake, I’d have no issues sending Heathcott. He’s had trouble staying healthym and I wasn’t that impressed, but, still young. Possibly him, brewer or Mesa

  18. SoS March 1st, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    Sorry didnt know there was a new thread.
    What is up fellas!!
    Things we need for the 2011 Yankee team.
    1. Wooden shoes and Bonds elbow pads on wrist for Tex.
    2. Frosty tips on Alex’s hair.
    3. 1 skate for Jeters left foot at the batters box. No more stepping, just glide.
    4. A Mr. T hair cut for Swish.
    5. A higher strike zone when Montero is behind the plate to avoid putting the glove next to his ankles.
    6. B-12 shots for Prior. B-12 pills for Joba(prefers chewing).
    7. Tell Burnett that he can only use a pie for every W he earns.
    8. Tell Phil Hughes he’s competing for a starting spot AGAIN this year. It worked for him last year.
    9. Hide Girardis black book.
    10.Win the first 161 games to keep us from cliff jumping. Mountain jumping for MTU.

  19. yankeefeminista March 1st, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    Dp, atta boy, Hughsie!

  20. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    Hughes

    walks the leadoff batter

    ground ball DP 2nd, short, 1st

    line out to Swisher on sliding catch in right

  21. SoS March 1st, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    Bare with me folks.
    So I was watching ARE YOU SMARTER THAN A 5TH GRADER the other day and they asked where did Babe Ruth hit his first professional homerun? Anyone?

    I have to admit. After watching that show, I think I’m going to hire my younger son whose a first grader to make all important financial decisions in my life. Of course I blame my lack of education on my dumb grade school teachers. Kicking class clowns out of class everyday does not help them get smarter. You can only learn so much staring at walls.

  22. Yank 97 March 1st, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    “I’d have no issues sending Heathcott. He’s had trouble staying healthym and I wasn’t that impressed, but, still young. Possibly him, brewer or Mesa”

    Same. I’d send Heathcott if necessary.

  23. SoS March 1st, 2011 at 1:21 pm

    pat,
    That Jeet picture on the last thread looks like Daniel Laruso having buckweet in a headlock.

  24. m1kew March 1st, 2011 at 1:21 pm

    It appears that Gameday is not covering today’s Yankee game. Other than the pay sites is there any other site which I can use to follow the game?

  25. Pat M. March 1st, 2011 at 1:24 pm

    Lariano just will not go away……He’d look good in Pinstripes for the right price……Just hope they can keep Nova and move Joba instead…..Of course this can only occur if The Twins send off his medicals first ……Joba is a spare part in the bullpen now a days

  26. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 1:25 pm

    top of 2nd inning

    single by Chavez

    Montero ground ball DP

    Nunez pop up to right

  27. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 1:26 pm

    Game Day is on

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday.....de=gameday

  28. West Coast Yankee Fan March 1st, 2011 at 1:27 pm

    Im getting the game on MLB.com just fine

  29. tyanksfan36 March 1st, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    Thanks for the good luck wishes, though that exam was just a disaster, half the stuff I didn’t even study and the essay questions weren’t even worth enough points to make up for how bad I did on the multiple choice. I won’t find my exact results until next week but I already know it isn’t pretty

  30. m1kew March 1st, 2011 at 1:30 pm

    GB and WCYF – thank you both. I don’t know why but when I tried that site I got a message that is was not being covered. But now after your responses it is fine. Curious but these things happen. Thanks again.

  31. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    bottom of the 2nd inning Hughes pitching

    fly out to right

    fly out to center

    fly out to deep left

    Hughes not real sharp today…lots of pitches out of the strike zone

  32. West Coast Yankee Fan March 1st, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    Internet has a mind of it’s own sometime!

  33. Joe from Long Island March 1st, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    coney 1 – thanks for the link.

    I’m with Pat, I’d sooner trade Joba, even the new and improved version, rather than Nova. I am becoming more and more of the mind that Nova is going to turn out to be a very capable ML pitcher. And, with Soriano on the team, and Feliciano, and possibly Brackman in the pen later this year, that Joba is expendable. Not that he won’t become quite good, but expendable in the right deal.

    CC, Phil, AJ, Liriano (if healthy), Nova – that’s pretty good.

  34. LGY March 1st, 2011 at 1:33 pm

    Trade Nova. Keep Joba!

  35. Vineyard Yankee March 1st, 2011 at 1:33 pm

    GB, thanks for the play by play. Both yesterday and today.

    Was the single by Chavez a GB or a LD ?

  36. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    mlkew, gameday opened up in the bottom of the 1st inning

  37. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    Chavez’ single was a looping fly

  38. Mike Ri March 1st, 2011 at 1:35 pm

    im in the trade Joba camp .. keep Nova

  39. Betsy March 1st, 2011 at 1:35 pm

    Phil picked up where he left off, lol – a ton of fly balls.

  40. BTX March 1st, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    Forget the change-up/curveball… Phil needs to work on his 2-seemer!

  41. West Coast Yankee Fan March 1st, 2011 at 1:38 pm

    If they are going to do that deal and I’m not sure we should. I would definitely trade Joba not Nova. A decent starter is more valuable than a decent relief pitcher. Especially to the Yankees. If Prior pitches well, he could be the 6th inning guy.

  42. PhiltheThrill March 1st, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    a ton ain’t what it used to be.

  43. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    top of the 3rd inning

    McDonald started for Pittsburgh today instead of McCutchen, followed by Thompson

    Laird ground out

    Pena ground out

    Gardner strikeout

  44. Betsy March 1st, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    BTX, he badly needs a 2-seamer; I ‘ve no idea how he transformed from a GB pitcher to such a FB pitcher, but he has. He needs his curve back as much as he needs the change.

  45. West Coast Yankee Fan March 1st, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    Listen to you guys lol. Hughes has thrown 14 pitches in his first game and hasn’t given up a hit. Besty ready to pounce on him.

  46. Mell March 1st, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    “If they are going to do that deal and I’m not sure we should. I would definitely trade Joba not Nova.”

    Would make much sense for the Twins to want Chamberlain over Nova. Not buying that they want Chamberlain at all given he’s in to his arb years. Six years of control of Nova >>>> 2 years of Chamberlain.

  47. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 1:42 pm

    Only one ball was hit with any authority off of Hughes and it was wind aided

  48. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 1:42 pm

    Bottom of the 3rd inning Robertson pitching

  49. upstate kate March 1st, 2011 at 1:43 pm

    thanks for the updates GB :)

  50. Betsy March 1st, 2011 at 1:43 pm

    Deal with it blowhard. It’s ok to praise pitchers when they are sharp in ST, but it’s not ok to mention what a pitcher needs to work on? You’re a riot, you really are.

  51. Mell March 1st, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    Andy Sonnanstine has faced 10 batters and allowed 5 homers. THAT’S a ton of fly balls.

  52. West Coast Yankee Fan March 1st, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    I just get the feeling you want Hughes to look bad to be proven right.

  53. G. Love March 1st, 2011 at 1:46 pm

    Joba’s very expendable the way the Yankees are using him.

    The Yankees have a lot of relief options and very few spots in the pen. You’ve seen them picking up guys like Prior, Ayala and the young kids who could step into the pen and provide the 70 or so appearances Joba does in a season as a middle reliever.

    If the team can deal a middle reliever for a starter, it’s a great move.

    That said, if the Twins actually accepted Joba/Nunez for Liriano, I’d bet the house that Liriano’s medicals are horrid and the Yankees turn the trade down. I also can’t believe another team wouldn’t beat that offer.

    It just seems like too small of a price to pay for a healthy LH starter under team control that K’d over 200 last season.

  54. blake March 1st, 2011 at 1:46 pm

    I agree with Mell that the Twins would likely rather have Nova due to service time but I would also rather keep him as well if I had my choice. Joba is a middle reliever and if they are never going to start him again then he needs to be valued as a middle reliever. Sure he could help them this year in that role but who is to say Brackman can’t step in and do it as well in the 2nd half. Nova is a starter, is cheaper, and can be controlled longer.

    Sabathia, Hughes, Liriano, Burnett, Nova would be a top 5 rotation potentially ….

  55. West Coast Yankee Fan March 1st, 2011 at 1:47 pm

    There’s a difference in seeing pitchers like Banuelos and Betances that we have never seen before that are heralded prospects and vets. I didn’t really care what Sabathia did yesterday.

  56. Pat M. March 1st, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    LGY….You rather trade a starter than a reliever who is buried on the clubs depth chart….Ivan Nova is going to be a good starting pitcher according to guys who scout….

  57. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    For Pittsburgh

    Hard single past third base

    strikeout

    strikeout

    Montero throws out runner on attempted steal of 2nd base

  58. Nick in SF March 1st, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    I’m just catching up. So Phil got hammered? :?

  59. Chase March 1st, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    Did Montero throw him out?

  60. PhiltheThrill March 1st, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    Montero just threw out a basestealer during a strike em out throw em out DP.

  61. Chase March 1st, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    Thanks, GB

  62. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    My pleasure, Kate.

  63. LGY March 1st, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    What is Novas role on this team the next 2 years if Liriano is a Yankee?

  64. timmyb72 March 1st, 2011 at 1:50 pm

    Badda boom, badda bing, for all of you Montero doubters, just threw out Chris Snyder trying to steal 2nd!!!! This kid is going north with the big club!!!

  65. blake March 1st, 2011 at 1:50 pm

    Montero showing off the gun….bring him north. :)

  66. G. Love March 1st, 2011 at 1:50 pm

    “PhiltheThrill March 1st, 2011 at 1:48 pm
    Montero just threw out a basestealer during a strike em out throw em out DP.”

    Keith Law just bit his pillow in anger! It must have been Greg Luzinkski running.

  67. UnKnown March 1st, 2011 at 1:50 pm

    Is SJ nephew playing today??

  68. West Coast Yankee Fan March 1st, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    If Cashman did the Liriano deal – I would have to believe the medical exam would be a very extensive one; along with consultations with any number of medical personnel. It’s still no guaranty, but I just can’t believe that deal gets done unless the medical pros are in agreement that he’s physiologically sound.

  69. blake March 1st, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    LGY,

    What’s Joba’s role on the Yankees in the next 2 years?

  70. Mell March 1st, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    Wallace Matthews Montero just threw out his first baserunner: Chris Snyder mistakenly thought 3-2 pitch was ball four, jogged into second base

  71. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    any time, guys. Happy to do it

  72. blake March 1st, 2011 at 1:53 pm

    SI_JonHeyman no talks between yankees and twins in a month. 1 competing gm: “makes no sense to trade (liriano) now.”

    I agree with the GM….unless there are things we don’t know about either health or attitude related.

  73. LGY March 1st, 2011 at 1:54 pm

    Joba would be a piece of a dominant bullpen and insurance for Soriano opting out.

  74. Betsy March 1st, 2011 at 1:54 pm

    You have a feeling? That’s nice, lol

  75. LGY March 1st, 2011 at 1:55 pm

    If the Yankees get Liriano there is only one open rotation spot in 2012.

    One of the Bs should get that spot

    Nova is a placeholder.

  76. blake March 1st, 2011 at 1:56 pm

    LGY,

    So could Brackmonster. Nova is currently more important to the 2011 Yankees than Joba is…

  77. Pat M. March 1st, 2011 at 1:57 pm

    UnKnown…..SJ told me earlier that Tony’s unlikely to see action today…..

  78. Carl March 1st, 2011 at 1:57 pm

    Chris Carpenter is hurt bro

  79. blake March 1st, 2011 at 1:57 pm

    Nova could be a placeholder…..he also could pitch very well this season and become a longterm option….we just don’t know yet.

  80. West Coast Yankee Fan March 1st, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    Two seeing eye hits for Chavez today.

  81. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    top of the 4th inning

    Swisher’s blazing speed gets him an infield single

    Granderson infield pop out

    Posada strikes out

    Chavez single to left on high bouncer down right field line

    Montero out on hard grounder to shortstop

  82. LGY March 1st, 2011 at 1:59 pm

    Trading Joba weakens the bullpen. Trading Nova doesn’t weaken the rotation because of Garcia.

  83. UnKnown March 1st, 2011 at 1:59 pm

    Thanks Pat – Been cool if he would’ve played.

  84. UnKnown March 1st, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    I’m hoping Po can at least muster a .265 batting avg this year from the DH spot.

    Otherwise it might be best to turn that spot into a revolving slot to give guys “half” days off.

  85. champ809 March 1st, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    If just looked at from the standpoint of the 2011 Yanks then it would be better to trade Joba+ to the Twins for Liri as opposed to Nova. Assuming he’s healthy then you’ve strengthened the back end of your ‘ro by making Liri the #3 with AJ in the 4 hole and Nova as the #5 starter.

    The Yanks have a number of pitchers who could pitch in the 6th inning and still have DRob, Logan, Mitre and Feliciano leading up to Sori and Mo. Maybe a Rumolo Sanchez could replace Joba’s 6th inning role initially.

    From a longer term standpoint I still think that Joba’s potential is superior to Nova’s and am certain that if the Twins get Joba in a trade they will immediately ship him to AAA ans stretch him out in an effort to maximize his abilities as a starter.

    The Twins when you look at their organization are more in need of middle infielders than outfielders with Ben Revere and Aaron Hicks being 2 of their top near MLB ready prospects.

  86. Vineyard Yankee March 1st, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    GB, maybe you could put your name in the hat to replace Waldman when the radio contract expires at the end of the year.

  87. UnKnown March 1st, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    NY seems to be stranding a lot of baserunners already this spring. I know I know its only ST, but still….

  88. G. Love March 1st, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    There are a couple of issues in play when you think about the future of the Yankee rotation.

    1-CC can opt out. While I think the Yankees would resign him and he wouldn’t leave, there is a possibility that could happen as remote as it may be.

    2-AJ doesn’t rebound. If AJ can’t improve upon last season, he becomes the most expensive long man in the majors.

    3-The B’s need to build up innings to be viable starters. This season they need to be healthy and pitch as many innings as possible for them to even be considered as a 2012 rotation option. This team will not go into another season with guys with 150 inning limits in the major league rotation. If they can throw 170 or higher in 2012, they have a shot.

    Liriano would fit well on this team for the next two years before he hits free agency if he were healthy. He would blocking no one other than Freddy Garcia and Colon.

    Again, if healthy he’s our 2 starter until Hughes develops put away stuff. Liriano K’s a ton of hitters and doesn’t walk the ballpark.

    The only reason you should be against trading for him is if he costs any of the blue chip prospects.

    If the cost is Joba or Nova plus some filler pieces, it’s a deal the Yankees have to make if they can and he’s healthy.

  89. BD (Boston Dave) March 1st, 2011 at 2:03 pm

    “A lot of negative things have been written about Montero’s defensive abilities,”

    ————-

    Yeah, by people who didn’t actually watch him play once.

    Once a rumor or assumption gets made about a prospect, lazy journalists don’t let it die easily.

    It’s why the “expert” analysts, when it comes to prospects, should always be taken with a grain of salt.

  90. UnKnown March 1st, 2011 at 2:03 pm

    Rack another one up for Jesus.

  91. PhiltheThrill March 1st, 2011 at 2:03 pm

    Montero throws out Alex Presley.

  92. blake March 1st, 2011 at 2:03 pm

    “Trading Nova doesn’t weaken the rotation because of Garcia”

    This could be true or really really badly false.

  93. Carl March 1st, 2011 at 2:03 pm

    Montero has thrown out 2 today.

  94. PhiltheThrill March 1st, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    Now Gardy kills a baserunner.

  95. Triple Short of a Cycle March 1st, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    Carpenter just walked off the mound calling for the trainers. Ouch. Who do they think they are the Mets?

  96. Betsy March 1st, 2011 at 2:05 pm

    Darn, I would have loved to have seen Montero’s arm………wonder what Kevin Goldstein is thinking

  97. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 2:05 pm

    Bottom of the 4th inning Garrison pitching for NYYs

    infield single on hard smash to shortstop

    runner out caught stealing. Alex Presley has very good speed

    Single to left, out at 2nd on throw by Gardner

    ground out to shortstop

  98. blake March 1st, 2011 at 2:06 pm

    So was this a legit caught stealing?

  99. SJ44 March 1st, 2011 at 2:06 pm

    It is simply amazing to read people post about Hughes continuously who know absolutely nothing about pitching.

    2 clean innings and it’s still not good enough.

    It would be much easier if folks took the time to learn what ST, and pitching in ST is all about.

    That, however would be too much to ask.

    It’s much easier to spam the blog with foolishness to attract attention to one self.

  100. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 2:06 pm

    right now, Snyder is catching for Pittsburgh

  101. Mike Ri March 1st, 2011 at 2:06 pm

    tell em Sj

  102. blake March 1st, 2011 at 2:07 pm

    Geez…..did someone throw a hex on the Cards or something….

  103. West Coast Yankee Fan March 1st, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    ESPN reports – The Mets are reportedly looking for another loan to have cash to cover operating expenses.

    Any buglers here that know Taps?

  104. Pat M. March 1st, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    LGY….I’m confused, if they move Nova then who takes his slot ???? Colon ??? And that doesn’t weaken the rotation ???/ Nova is going to be better than both Garcia and Colon

  105. Betsy March 1st, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    SJ, get over yourself and address me directly instead of subjecting everyone to your passive aggressive nonsense. You think you’re right about everything, don’t you? Of course you do……….. So, people who think Phil (or any other pitcher) has some things to work on have no clue, but those who agree with you are geniuses? How unbelievably open-minded, not.

  106. SJ44 March 1st, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    Why would Bill Smith trade Liriano to the Yankees without getting one of the B’s, Montero, or Hughes in return?

    He doesn’t HAVE to trade Liriano. He certainly doesn’t have to trade him for a second tier deal.

  107. Betsy March 1st, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    SJ, you would know from spamming nonsense.

  108. UnKnown March 1st, 2011 at 2:10 pm

    Aceves with a clean inning for the hated rivals.

  109. Pat M. March 1st, 2011 at 2:10 pm

    6 up 6 down now means 6 up 6 k’d

  110. Betsy March 1st, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    Gee SJ, Hughes wasn’t good enough for Smith during the Santana talks, but now what – he learned his lesson? If the Yankees offered Hughes or Betances/Banuelos, he’d jump at it? Right – like he did a few years ago.

  111. PhiltheThrill March 1st, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    The Yanks aren’t going to trade one of the B’s or Montero or Sanchez for Liriano. They wouldn’t blow up the farm for Santana, and they won’t do it for a pitcher with a more negative injury history.

  112. Triple Short of a Cycle March 1st, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    Smith didn’t have to trade Santana when he did yet he got garbage for him. DBacks didn’t have to trade Haren when they did yet they got garbage for him.

  113. Against All Odds March 1st, 2011 at 2:13 pm

    LGY March 1st, 2011 at 1:59 pm

    Trading Joba weakens the bullpen. Trading Nova doesn’t weaken the rotation because of Garcia

    ——————————-

    How much does he weaken though????? He’s a middle reliever. Joba will appear in blowouts that occur either way or when the starter has a high pitch count.

  114. G. Love March 1st, 2011 at 2:13 pm

    SJ,

    I don’t think Smith would ever take the kind of package that he’s rumored to be looking at from the Yankees with Joba or Nova headlining it, but the rumor mill is churning and we’re commenting on what’s coming out.

    I think it would be downright bizarre that a package of Joba or Nova and Nunez could get Liriano. It’s why if there’s a shred of truth to it, the Yankees better do it.

  115. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 2:13 pm

    top of the 5th inning Resop is pitching for Pittsburgh

    Nunez strikeout

    Laird strikeout

    Pena safe on error to 2nd base

    Pena caught stealing

    Gardner

    Anderson and sisco will be the next yankee pitchers

  116. SJ44 March 1st, 2011 at 2:14 pm

    Get over yourself Betsy.

    You spam this place with the same Phil Hughes foolishness everyday.

    When it comes to picking, I forgot more than you will ever know.

    You don’t even know WHAT to criticize when it comes to Hughes. You just criticize.

    What’s funny about it is, you rip the “medidiots”, as you call them when they criticize Hughes.

    Yet, nobody, and I mean NOBODY, rips Phil Hughes as much as you.

    Nobody has said he doesn’t have things to work on.

    That’s what ST is for……to work on things.

    Meaning, don’t worry about the results. They are meaningless.

  117. Mike Ri March 1st, 2011 at 2:15 pm

    maybe the yanks and twins havent’ talked trade in a month . because the deal is in place…. pending medicals and how Loriano pitches in spring training

  118. Warning Track Power March 1st, 2011 at 2:15 pm

    I’ve read/heard so much discussion about Brett Gardner working on his bunting-
    Has the guy attempted to bunt for a hit yet this spring?
    If not, maybe he will give that a shot when he leads off the next inning.

  119. Dionysius Thelxinoe March 1st, 2011 at 2:16 pm

    He doesn’t HAVE to trade Liriano. He certainly doesn’t have to trade him for a second tier deal.

    ———

    He doesn’t HAVE to, he WANTS to, if rumors are to be believed.

    And they are in no way, shape, or form getting Hughes, Montero, or any of the B’s, or anyone of that caliber, for Liriano. From any team.

  120. G. Love March 1st, 2011 at 2:16 pm

    As much as we want to see Brett bunt, I’d rather him take full swings and make sure the wrist is okay before making bunting his priority.

  121. SJ44 March 1st, 2011 at 2:17 pm

    Betsy,

    I contribute more here on my worst day than you do on your best day.

    When you look up the meaning of “spam” on here, your photo is next to it.

    We all get the negativity is your calling card here.

    It’s just that your act has gotten very, very, tired.

  122. Pat M. March 1st, 2011 at 2:17 pm

    Has Bucholtz made his spring start yet ???/

  123. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    bottom of the 5th inning Garrison still pitching

    fly out to center

    ground out to shortstop on tough hop

    lineout to left field

  124. PhiltheThrill March 1st, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    I kind of want Gardy to practice his bunting outside of the ST games, so it’s more of a surprise when he breaks it out in the real games.

  125. PhiltheThrill March 1st, 2011 at 2:20 pm

    please be nice to each other.

  126. blake March 1st, 2011 at 2:20 pm

    SJ,

    That’s what doesn’t add up. Not only that, why would the Twins make the team that continually knocks them out of the playoffs better unless the deal is a clear win for them?

  127. SJ44 March 1st, 2011 at 2:20 pm

    Actually, the rumors are, he DOESN’T want to trade him. There are numerous comments from the Twins side stating he isn’t on the block.

    In other words, Smith, like any GM, will trade him if he gets a package heavily weighted in his favor.

    A second tier deal doesn’t get it done.

  128. Joe from Long Island March 1st, 2011 at 2:20 pm

    SJ, you’re being logical when you say the Twins have no overriding reason to trade Liriano. Unless – something else is going on that we don’t know about, that makes him a potential liability for them. That’s always possible. That’s why it wouldn’t make sense to give up much for him.

    I think if he can be had for the Yankees’ price, then it becomes worth it. Not at the Twins’ price.

  129. Warning Track Power March 1st, 2011 at 2:21 pm

    I heard Gardner on t.v. over the weekend speaking about his wrist is now 100%.

    Based on that info, “bunt the damn ball already”.

    ST is where a player should practice his bunting for hits-To save that for the reg season is stupidity.

  130. blake March 1st, 2011 at 2:21 pm

    The swing Gardner had on the double the other day was a great one….let it travel deep, both hands on the bat and shot a laser down the 3rd base line.

  131. PhiltheThrill March 1st, 2011 at 2:23 pm

    WTP,

    There are plenty of chances to work on things in ST and not use them in games. You want to see him bunt. That’s fine. I’d rather he make it a real weapon in games that count.

  132. Dionysius Thelxinoe March 1st, 2011 at 2:24 pm

    A second tier deal doesn’t get it done.

    ——–

    Then either some other GM overpays or he pitches for the twins this year, IMO.

  133. Warning Track Power March 1st, 2011 at 2:24 pm

    blake-i saw that swing myself.
    since his wrist is now 100%, Bret needs to stop talking about how much he wants to improve his bunting game and actually work on the task in the games. plain and simple.
    i don’t care if he bunts 20 times this spring and never gets a single, just as long as he is practicing the bunt because if he adds that weapon, he will be a greater threat

  134. blake March 1st, 2011 at 2:24 pm

    Buster_ESPN @jdub722 There is no Francisco Liriano deal in the making for the Yankees; Twins have made it clear he is not available. No current talks.

  135. SJ44 March 1st, 2011 at 2:24 pm

    Re: Santana….he had to trade Santana because he knew he was going to lose Santana to free agency.

    They also didn’t have the additional revenue they now have from their new stadium.

    It’s two completely different situations.

    Unless Smith gets a deal that’s too good to be true, he has no reason to trade Liriano prior to the season.

    Especially since he has a team that could be another playoff contender.

  136. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 2:26 pm

    top of the 6th inning Daniel McCutchen pitching for Pittsburgh

    Gardner ground out to 1st base on smash 1st to pitcher

    Swisher strikeout

    Granderson strikeout

  137. Dionysius Thelxinoe March 1st, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    blake says:
    March 1, 2011 at 2:21 pm
    The swing Gardner had on the double the other day was a great one….let it travel deep, both hands on the bat and shot a laser down the 3rd base line.

    ———–

    I agree. It was great to see him swing the bat with some authority, something we didnt see the second half last year.

  138. Warning Track Power March 1st, 2011 at 2:28 pm

    blake March 1st, 2011 at 2:24 pm
    Buster_ESPN @jdub722 There is no Francisco Liriano deal in the making for the Yankees; Twins have made it clear he is not available. No current talks.
    ************************************************************************

    This is why I don’t pay attention to rumors. What’s the point? With the amount of technology today, anybody can start a rumor, fuel a rumor and the majority of them will be false.

    I don’t waste time on rumors and/or speculation regarding a possible trade/acquisition.

  139. Triple Short of a Cycle March 1st, 2011 at 2:28 pm

    Smith and the Twins have already conceded that they will not be able to sign Liriano when he becomes a free agent so while I don’t think they will trade him now I think he will def be gone next off season or if they are out of it at the break maybe then

  140. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 2:28 pm

    Gardner has been staying late and bunting 50-60 balls. He’ll use it soon.

  141. SJ44 March 1st, 2011 at 2:28 pm

    Gardner is better off working on his swing in games and his bunting on the side.

    Saves the bunting for the regular season.

  142. G. Love March 1st, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    Phil The Thrill,

    I like your thinking. If Brett’s gonna put bunting for base hits in the arsenal, do it on the side and not in games so he can surprise people and steal some hits in the early months.

  143. SJ44 March 1st, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    Smith has never said publicly they can’t sign Liriano. Find a quote where he has said that. It’s non-existent.

    What are the chances the Twins are out of it by the break? Very slim, given the WC and the fact their division is pretty evenly matched.

    There is no logical reason to deal Liriano anytime soon. Certainly not for a second tier package.

    Could he deal him next off-season? Sire. By then though, panicked Yankee fans won’t have the same concerns about the pitching staff they have now.

  144. Pat M. March 1st, 2011 at 2:33 pm

    Although the trade may not happen, I do think at some point both clubs will explore the possibility of making a trade…..It’ll come down to who Cashman is comfortable in moving…..Yanks are top heavy with pitchers that very well may not be ticketed for The Bronx as complementary pieces to an offer to Minn.

  145. pat March 1st, 2011 at 2:37 pm

    JackCurryYES Another spring, another chance for Phil Hughes to refine his changeup. He threw 3 today. Wants it to be a useful pitching, nothing more.

  146. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 2:38 pm

    Bottom of the 6th inning, Brian Anderson pitching for Yankees

    Snyder hard ground single

    sac bunt to pitcher

    double to left high off the wall in the corner, run scores

    hbp

    ground out to pitcher

    fly out to right field

    End of 6th inning, 1-0 Pittsburgh

  147. blake March 1st, 2011 at 2:39 pm

    Kruk of all people was just asked what he thought about the Sox rotation and he said it had 3 question marks in it (Beckett, Lackey, and Dice K)…..he also gets extra credit for forgetting what Papelbon’s name was……expect him to be fired from ESPN by the end of the week.

  148. SJ44 March 1st, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    Would Cashman like to add Liriano? I’m sure he would.

    Enough to give Montero, Hughes, Betances or Banuelos to do it? Nope.

    So, where does that leave things?

    If you are Bill Smith and you trade Liriano to the team you haven’t been able to beat in the post-season, and at least two of the above 4 aren’t in the deal, how does the deal make sense from the Twins perspective?

    He didn’t gift wrap Santana to the Yankees. He certainly isn’t going to gift wrap Liriano to them.

    A second tier deal to the Yankees is in essence gift wrapping him to them.

    That won’t go over well in Minnesota.

  149. Pat M. March 1st, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    GB, With his teletype reports must remind him of the olden days much like in the movie The Sting !!!!! All we need is the sound effects……Actually I look forward to his farm reports of the summer games

  150. pat March 1st, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    RyanRuoccoChatting with A-Rod for @yankeesondemand. Alex loves talking baseball…interesting stuff

    Does anyone know where one can hear yankeesondemand?

  151. PhiltheThrill March 1st, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    Hughes used to have a rather excellent change up nin 06 up till that Texas start in 07.

  152. Triple Short of a Cycle March 1st, 2011 at 2:43 pm

    I read it on MLBTraderumors. It said something about since the negotiations went nowhere they are worried about signing him as well as his durability. I wouldn’t deal will Smith even if he had the last piece of chicken and I hadn’t eaten in a week. He would ask for Montero,Betances and Banuelos. The man turned down Lester plus or Hughes plus for Santana. How he kept his job is beyond me

  153. m March 1st, 2011 at 2:43 pm

    Just jumping on. Sounds like Hughes had a rough day.

    :(

  154. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 2:44 pm

    top of the 7th inning, McCutchen still pitching

    Posada infield ground out

    Chavez lined one hopper to pitcher, out at 1st

    Montero fly out to short center

  155. Carl March 1st, 2011 at 2:44 pm

    # pat March 1st, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    RyanRuoccoChatting with A-Rod for @yankeesondemand. Alex loves talking baseball…interesting stuff

    Does anyone know where one can hear yankeesondemand?

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....8;c_id=nyy

  156. tampayank March 1st, 2011 at 2:44 pm

    chatting cool stuff

  157. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 2:47 pm

    Pat M. March 1st, 2011 at 2:41 pm
    GB, With his teletype reports must remind him of the olden days much like in the movie The Sting !!!!! All we need is the sound effects……Actually I look forward to his farm reports of the summer games

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    need to hook up a mic and use a pencil to make a sound of bat and ball…or, I could type in a “TWACK” add in a couple of rain delays, dog running on the field, or add in a on field fight

  158. Tom in N.J. March 1st, 2011 at 2:48 pm

    Hughes didn’t give up any hits, but he was hammered because he gave up fly balls.

    Or something.

  159. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    Strange…Sisco opened the bottom of the 7th and walked the only batter and was removed for Eric Wordekemper

  160. Abe Peterham March 1st, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    Why every game isn’t on some tv outlet makes no sense to me for what MLB.tv charges, get a camera there!

  161. pat March 1st, 2011 at 2:50 pm

    Carl

    Thanks.

  162. upstate kate March 1st, 2011 at 2:50 pm

    Tom
    how is Mr Cuddles?

  163. SJ44 March 1st, 2011 at 2:50 pm

    Smith hasn’t said anything publicly about not being able to re-sign Liriano.

    If he did, his trade value drops enormously.

    Somebody on MLBTR may have SPECULTED Smith may feel he can’t, or doesn’t want to, re-sign Liriano.

    However, he’s not going to say anything publicly, especially now, of his plans for Liriano.

  164. m March 1st, 2011 at 2:51 pm

    Ah, so those would be HR at YS?

    :)

  165. Warning Track Power March 1st, 2011 at 2:51 pm

    Abe Peterham March 1st, 2011 at 2:49 pm
    Why every game isn’t on some tv outlet makes no sense to me for what MLB.tv charges, get a camera there!
    ************************************************************************

    I came very close to purchasing the MLB.TV package this year, but when I saw the price and read that not every single game during spring training would be available, I decided to keep my money in my pocket.

  166. Asd March 1st, 2011 at 2:52 pm

    Immediate ground rule double off Wordekemper, who isn’t having a good spring training.

  167. m March 1st, 2011 at 2:53 pm

    No matter what smith says or doesn’t say, liriano would be a bad longterm extension for the Twins.

    Both sides probably look forward to parting ways.

  168. upstate kate March 1st, 2011 at 2:53 pm

    M
    Are you just trying to start trouble?!!! Aren’t the dimensions and orientation of Steinbrenner field the same as YS?

  169. Tom in N.J. March 1st, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    Kate, He’s doing well. Little bugger loves to be outside.

    Our walks are more sniffing than walking, however.

    He does bark at me when I play my guitar. He has no taste.

  170. Jackson March 1st, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Chris Carpenter has injured his left hamstring in his spring training debut but doesn’t think it’s a serious injury.

    Carpenter said he threw one more pitch after feeling the hamstring tug. He said he wasn’t that concerned about the injury.

  171. pat March 1st, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    m

    Ruby karma strikes again….

    MikeSilvermanBB #RedSox 3B Brent Dlugach sustained an injury making a diving catch here in bottom of 5th. he’s leaving field.

    PeteAbe Left shoulder. Bet it’s separated.

  172. Asd March 1st, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    … either that or he isn’t deaf. (wink)

  173. Tarheel In NYC March 1st, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    GB7,

    I appreciate your very helpful play-by-play here. It’s frustrating sitting in a cubicle that’s so far away from a window that I can’t even pick up a radio signal so that I can listen for myself. Your posts have been the next best thing…thank you!

  174. Ys Guy March 1st, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    i think you guys are vastly overrating the interest in showing every ST game. if there were money in it, dont you think they would be showing every game? whats on yes now? obviously they think that showing elston howar’s yankeeography makes them more profit than showing todays game.

  175. timmyb72 March 1st, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    Pirates just stole third base off of Wordekemper/Montero, but radio announcers say that it was stolen off of the pitcher.

  176. champ809 March 1st, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    What Bill Smith ACTUALLY said is that the Twins have no interest in signing Liriano to an extension as most of the other teams have done with their young pitching i.e. Verlander, Lincecum, Weaver and King Felix.

    The thought then became that they would move Liriano which I think they will. Smith I’m sure thinks that the yanks are desperate to add a legit arm to the team after losing Lee to the Phils and Pettite going home to the ranch. he’s right about that because Colon and Freddy are really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

    Smith I’m sure will ask for a package worthy of a frontline SP but Liriano will not command as much as you guys seem to think.

    Look at what Halladay, Haren, Greinke and Lee twice brought back…. All of those guys would be considered better than Liriano when you consider that Liri’s career consist of an amazing 1st half to his rookie season, followed by 2yrs lost to injury and then a very good last season.

    The reason why the Twins are open to trading him imo are attitude related. They have had a rocky relationship with him going all the way back to his rehab from the tjs, the whole fiasco about not promoting him back to the big league club in ’09 and making him stay an extra 6weeks in AAA when he was ready to and wanted to be back with the big league club carrying over into last spring training when Gardenhire wouldn’t even declare him a SP until late in camp when he was considering Liri as potentially closing when Nathan went down.

    As far as a trade package goes Drabek and Smoak were the only big time blue chip prospects traded in any of the other deals involving the other pitchers that we spoke about so the Killer B’s, Montero, Sanchez ain’t going anywhere.

  177. m March 1st, 2011 at 2:58 pm

    pat,

    OMG. I’m glad Ruby’s on our side.

    Just kidding. Nothing funny about injuries. But you’d think that Ruby cares about his guys. Poor thing

    Kate,

    Who? Me? :)

  178. Ys Guy March 1st, 2011 at 3:00 pm

    “St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Chris Carpenter has injured his left hamstring in his spring training debut but doesn’t think it’s a serious injury.

    Carpenter said he threw one more pitch after feeling the hamstring tug. He said he wasn’t that concerned about the injury.”

    /////

    remember when andy pulled his hammy last year, he was sure he’d be back in 2 weeks. carpenter turns 36 next month

  179. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    Bottom of the 7th inning

    sisco pitching

    walk

    Wordekemper now pitching

    ground rule double

    line out to granderson, sac fly

    strikeout

    stolen base of third base. Radio said that Wordekemper never looked at the runner

    strikeout

    Conversation about the HBPs to Tony Sanchez last year. I knew about the HBP that broke his jaw, but was unaware that he was hit in the head twice last year.

    Wordekemper will be among first cuts. Yanks should have let Wordekemper go unprotected in rule 5 and kept Jonathan Ortiz

    2-0 Pittsburgh after 7 innings

  180. blake March 1st, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    The difference though is that all 4 of those guys were traded for one of 2 reasons…..because they were in their contract year or because their team needed payroll relief. The Twins are competitve, Liriano is controlled through 2012 , and the Twins can more than afford what they are currently paying him. They just have no reason to.deal him unless he has asked for a trade or because they know his arm is about to blow…..

  181. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    Tar, happy to help out with the info

  182. rodg12 March 1st, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    Wordekemper isn’t on the 40 man, GB. But, yes, he’s the proverbial ‘guy that’ll be bagging groceries in 2 weeks.’

  183. blake March 1st, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    The comparable situation coukd be Greinke IF Liriano has asked for a trade or something but there is no indication that he has.

  184. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    top of 8th inning

    Bernier strikes out

    Vazquez pop foul out to 1st base

    Russo ground out to 3rd base

  185. Abe Peterham March 1st, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    Warning Track Power,
    Yes, im a sucker, i bought the mlb.tv hoping more ST games would be on :(
    the weekend games were on, but they were already on mlb channel and YES,,,so no benefit..
    instead we get the away announcer feed on audio…yuchh…

  186. Mike_Boston March 1st, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    Is it just me or does the Pirate broadcaster sound exactly like the announcer used in Seinfeld that said “oh my gosh Mattingly just split his pants’?

  187. Asd March 1st, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    Hilariously, according to the MLB Gameday screen, A Pirate Pitcher is facing Doug Bernier, who’s picture involves a Pirate hat.

    List of current subs:

    1. Gardy LF becomes Krum LF
    2. Swisher RF becomes Parraz RF
    3. Granderson CF becomes Maxwell CF
    4. Posada DH stays
    5. Chavez 3B becomes Suttle 3b
    6. Montero C becomes Higashioka C
    7. Nunez SS becomes Bernier SS
    8. Laird 1B becomes Vazquez 1B
    9. Pena 2B becomes Russo 2B.

  188. tampayank March 1st, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    college baseball at Steinbrenner field today

  189. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    Thanks, Rodg. For whatever reason, I was thinking he was and couldn’t figure out why.

  190. m March 1st, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    I sensed friction between the Twins and Liriano. He deemed himself ready to return back to rotation, but the Twins wanted to be more cautious and have him pitch out if the bullpen iirc. It seemed like the Twins were trying to protect liriano, but he felt he knew best and made like the twins were disrespecting him.

  191. BoJo March 1st, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    SJ44–

    You are right about Smith not saying anything. All the speculation has come from a local Minn writer who first specualted Liriano might be available because of contract, and then heard some confirmations from sources that he might be available. He then went on to write about why that might happen…and people are assuming his speculations are gospel.

  192. BoJo March 1st, 2011 at 3:09 pm

    GB–When you used to do play-by-play with Ronald Reagan, did you alternate innings or were you color man only?

    :-)

  193. Warning Track Power March 1st, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    Abe Peterham March 1st, 2011 at 3:06 pm
    Warning Track Power,
    Yes, im a sucker, i bought the mlb.tv hoping more ST games would be on
    the weekend games were on, but they were already on mlb channel and YES,,,so no benefit..
    instead we get the away announcer feed on audio…yuchh…
    **********************************************************************
    Why the price is so high is really upsetting. Greedy MLB & the bottom line. I wonder if they tossed around the idea of charging a very low price for ST only. Considering that not every single game would be available.
    For now I can follow the games on MLB.COM/Gameday and watch the 10 or so Yankee games MLB Network & ESPN play to air during Spring Training.

  194. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    Ryan Pope is pitching the bottom of the 8th inning for the Yanks

    ground out

    strikeout

    ground out

  195. Triple Short of a Cycle March 1st, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    blake,

    Haren was traded when he wasn’t in a contract year and they got nothing for him

  196. BoJo March 1st, 2011 at 3:17 pm

    Here is a little background on the Liriano issues regarding bad communications and bad team mate.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb

  197. Tar March 1st, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    GB

    I am Tar call him Heel. :D

    First iPhone post Woohoo.

  198. timmyb72 March 1st, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    With the 3rd loss of ST looming as they move to the top of the 9th inning, the positives:

    1. Hughes, continues scoreless innings for NYY starters this spring and continues work on changeup, apparently threw 3 CU’s.

    2. Chavez, 2 for 3 with 2 singles. could be a very important person on the bench if he stays healthy.

    3. DRob, 1 inning of scoreless ball.

    4. More experience for Montero against ML pitching and a caught stealing

    5. Granderson continues hot hitting going back to the last month of 2010 and the playoffs.

  199. blake March 1st, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    Haren was traded in part to get out from under his contract though. The Dbacks aren’t competive so they didn’t need that 13 million on the books for 2011 and 2012. Its not all that similar really to the situation with the Twins…..they are competitive and can afford to pay him.

  200. SJ44 March 1st, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    Arizona has money problems. The Twins don’t, which distinguishes the Haren and Liriano situations.

  201. Mell March 1st, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    “Haren was traded when he wasn’t in a contract year and they got nothing for him”

    Apples and orangers. Haren was making 3x what Liriano is, and they did pick up a functional MLB starter in Saunders and a Top 100 prospect in Skaggs.

  202. BoJo March 1st, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    Aside from the box score results, I would have loved to have seen how Brian Anderson actually pitched today. Great story to follow…

  203. blake March 1st, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    I will agree though that they didn’t get much of anything for Haren…..but perhaps that’s why Towers is the GM now …..

  204. UnKnown March 1st, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    Hopefully Joba goes again tomorrow. I would think he is.

  205. SJ44 March 1st, 2011 at 3:22 pm

    Wins and losses are meaningless in ST.

    The games, and the stats, don’t matter.

    It’s all about getting ready for the season and experimenting with new things such as batting stances, new pitches, etc.

  206. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 3:22 pm

    Top of the 9th inning

    Krum ground out

    Parraz walk

    Maxwell lines out to warning track in right

    Molina strikeout

    Game over, Pittsburgh wins 2-0

  207. Joe from Long Island March 1st, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    and no one got hurt.

  208. BoJo March 1st, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    SJ44–

    I think you’d agree that ST results do matter for the young players trying to make an impression. Certainly the vets only have to get ready for the season, but for the kids, their performance dictates things like what level they may start on, or whether they could be called up later in year.

  209. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 3:25 pm

    Tar March 1st, 2011 at 3:18 pm
    GB

    I am Tar call him Heel.

    First iPhone post Woohoo.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    I don’t care who’s who, TAR. Both of you need to wear shoes on the hot streets. You’re tracking stuff on the new LoHud white carpets.

    How are you doing, today?

  210. 108 stitches March 1st, 2011 at 3:26 pm

    Trades of any multitude aren’t seriously discussed until after the 1st wave of cuts or about the middle of March. All teams are still in the process of looking over their rosters to decide who they’ll offer.

  211. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    Oh, Oh. Harper got a hit today. Be prepared for 30 minutes of replays on that one.

  212. Tarheel In NYC March 1st, 2011 at 3:29 pm

    Tar March 1st, 2011 at 3:18 pm
    GB

    I am Tar call him Heel.

    First iPhone post Woohoo.
    =================================================================

    D’oh! There I go again…causing confusion. Tar, thank you for clarifying for GB7. My apologies if I inadvertently stole your moniker. I had no idea there was another Tarheel on the board when I registered here. If I could, I’d change my username to Tarheel 2.0. Maybe I’ll start ending my posts with a signature.

    And not that it matters here, but for the record, I’m a her :)

    Congratulations on the success of your first iPhone post!

  213. Tar March 1st, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    GB
    Doing great . Haven’thad the time or energy to contribute much lately, but I have been reading as much as I can. I do agree with H eel you are the best at play by play. I appreciate it as well. Back to work have a good.

  214. SJ44 March 1st, 2011 at 3:31 pm

    They don’t matter for the young players either in the sense they are already ticketed to their minor league teams.

    How they do in the regular season, no their ST results, will determine their movement during the season.

    They don’t chart pitches or have scouting reports in any of these games.

    I know some fans get caught up in everyi pitch, the stats and the results and try to glean something from them.

    It’s why we had, “why Jon Weber should be on the roster” debates a few years ago.

    However, nome of the results matter.

    Manny Banuelos and Dellin Betances can strikeout every player they face in ST, and out pitch everybody in camp, and they are still starting the year in Trenton.

    How they pitch in Trenton will determine when and if the Yankees promote them this year.

  215. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    Tarheel in NYC, just start each post with “I’m the HER, Dummies”.

  216. Tarheel In NYC March 1st, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    LOL Good suggestion, GB. Maybe I should become She-Heel.

  217. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    Thanks, tar. If the game is on radio tomorrow, I’ll keep the updates going for all of you working stiffs.

  218. Triple Short of a Cycle March 1st, 2011 at 3:35 pm

    Harper hopefully will be up full time in 2013 so he could become one of those rare free agents still in their prime. I would love to see him in the outfield for the Yanks. he wants to be a Yankee bad

  219. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    Tarheel In NYC March 1st, 2011 at 3:33 pm
    LOL Good suggestion, GB. Maybe I should become She-Heel.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Yeah, you could do that, assuming you type and spell better than I do. You don’t want to be called SHE-HELL.

  220. Pat M. March 1st, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    Spring Training Orientation 101 once again…..

  221. Tar March 1st, 2011 at 3:38 pm

    Heel
    No problem. We will figure it out. And I feel better sharing knowing you are a she. :D

  222. SJ44 March 1st, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    Pat M,

    It never fails, we go thru it every year.

    In a week, we will have people whining about losses and quoting ST stats.

    It’s an annual rite of Spring here. lol

  223. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    Pat, those bus trips for ST road games can’t do much for getting rest. Get on the bus around 8 AM and make the trip to where ever. get BP and fielding i after stretching and then play. Those aren’t the glorious things they write about. You’d know more about that than I would.

  224. Abe Peterham March 1st, 2011 at 3:41 pm

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    i guess thats why revenue for mlb is at an all time high!

  225. Jerkface March 1st, 2011 at 3:44 pm

    Apples and orangers. Haren was making 3x what Liriano is, and they did pick up a functional MLB starter in Saunders and a Top 100 prospect in Skaggs.

    Joe Saunders has been below average the past 2 years. And Skaggs is in A ball. It wasn’t a great haul for a guy like Haren, but Haren’s issues at the time were working against him. A broken Haren signed for 3 years is kind of a bad deal, but a normal Haren signed for 3 years is a steal.

  226. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 3:44 pm

    Tar March 1st, 2011 at 3:38 pm
    Heel
    No problem. We will figure it out. And I feel better sharing knowing you are a she.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    What ever you decide, remember that Randy is really old and his memory isn’t the best.

  227. icebird753 March 1st, 2011 at 3:46 pm

    Betsy,
    I contribute more here on my worst day than you do on your best day.
    When you look up the meaning of “spam” on here, your photo is next to it.
    We all get the negativity is your calling card here.
    It’s just that your act has gotten very, very, tired.
    ——————–
    SJ, you’re an extremely arrogant bigot to say a comment on that. A) She has no photo, you moron and B) You have no right to say that to Betsy, maybe you should find a job and have a life rather than slouch on a computer in your mom’s basement all day and think you’re an expert on all Yankees news. If you are, find a job with this blog, maybe try taking over Chad’s position. I appreciate Betsy’s frequent comments, but one thing on this blog that’s annoyed me a bit is that there are fellow fans who think they know all about the Yankees when they don’t..we’re all fans and we are all entitled to our own opinions. But just because you write a lot of comments, doesn’t mean you’re someone vital to this blog’s success all of a sudden.

  228. Wave Your Hat March 1st, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    I’m late to the party. Which way to the sign-in table for the “trade Joba for Liriano” supporters?

  229. icebird753 March 1st, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    * a few fabs

  230. icebird753 March 1st, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    *fans LOL

  231. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2011 at 3:48 pm

    The best part so far is that the known pitchers going North have been really good so far as getting their pitches and control working, and most everyone on offense is making contact with the ball. AND NOBODY IN HURT, other than Brackman’s twinge.

    Golson is supposed to play tomorrow and Burnett’s pitching, so Golson is safe from batting practice pitches.

  232. Vineyard Yankee March 1st, 2011 at 3:48 pm

    The Liriano rumors are just that rumors only. If it ever gets to the point of exchanging offers (players) Smith will ask for way too much and Cashman will say no thanks.

  233. Vineyard Yankee March 1st, 2011 at 3:52 pm

    BoJo March 1st, 2011 at 3:09 pm

    GB–When you used to do play-by-play with Ronald Reagan, did you alternate innings or were you color man only?

    —————–

    Sick humor about someone’s age. Just not funny.

  234. West Coast Yankee Fan March 1st, 2011 at 3:52 pm

    Nothing could be less important than results in Spring Training IMO. It’s all about conditioning, practice, reps and each individual player working on things they and the staff think they need to work on. The coaches know what they are looking at and looking for and that it doesn’t translate into immediate results doesn’t mean much. A hitter could bat .200 in Spring Training but Long and Girardi could see a great improvement in their swing, etc. or the elimination of a bad habit.

  235. Mell March 1st, 2011 at 3:52 pm

    “SJ, you’re an extremely arrogant bigot to say a comment on that”

    Bigot? You mean because he’s anti-spam???

  236. BeholdArNo March 1st, 2011 at 3:54 pm

    Did anyone know that “No” in German is Nein?

  237. BoJo March 1st, 2011 at 3:56 pm

    I really like the way Jor Girardi runs ST and gets the team ready for the season. IMO, the reason they made the play-offs last year is because Joe has them out of the gate at 100%.

    I always felt Torre OTH was too lax and the Yankees had to depend on late surge to get to play-offs. Certainly, Joe made it there, but in the last few years, I felt that pushing the team to make it late didn’t give them time to rest vets and get them rteady for the play-offs.

    Two different approaches…but I prefer Girardi’s by far.

  238. SJ44 March 1st, 2011 at 3:57 pm

    Bigot?

    That’s rich. lol

    Why don’t you look up bigot in the dictionary because you have no idea what it means.

    Until then, piss off and stay out of things that are none of your concern.

  239. Wave Your Hat March 1st, 2011 at 3:58 pm

    “Two different approaches…but I prefer Girardi’s by far.”

    My preferred approach is to win 114 games like Torre’s ’98 team did.

  240. Mike_Boston March 1st, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    SJ an anti-spamite?

    I know I need to bring something more than Seinfeld references here but they’re everywhere :)

  241. Mell March 1st, 2011 at 4:01 pm

    “Joe Saunders has been below average the past 2 years.”

    Functional doesn’t work as an adjective here?

  242. LGY March 1st, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    SJ is just in a bad mood because the new look Knicks took it to his Heat on national TV. ;)

  243. BoJo March 1st, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    Wave Your Hat March 1st, 2011 at 3:58 pm

    “Two different approaches…but I prefer Girardi’s by far.”

    My preferred approach is to win 114 games like Torre’s ’98 team did.
    ________________
    When they started 17-6 in April and 20-7 in May….an approach he didn’t use again aside from 2002.

  244. West Coast Yankee Fan March 1st, 2011 at 4:05 pm

    Wave Your Hat March 1st, 2011 at 3:58 pm

    My preferred approach is to win 114 games like Torre’s ’98 team did.

    **************

    You got that right.

  245. Wave Your Hat March 1st, 2011 at 4:05 pm

    “When they started 17-6 in April and 20-7 in May….an approach he didn’t use again aside from 2002.”

    Well I’m sure it wasn’t because he disapproved of fast starts.

  246. Abe Peterham March 1st, 2011 at 4:05 pm

    LGY,
    the ”anti defense’ Knick team has melo asking to lead the D now, spanking the heat :0

  247. West Coast Yankee Fan March 1st, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    That would be when Amare threw that LeFraud garbage away at the end of the game?

    ;)

  248. BoJo March 1st, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    Wave Your Hat March 1st, 2011 at 4:05 pm

    “When they started 17-6 in April and 20-7 in May….an approach he didn’t use again aside from 2002.”

    Well I’m sure it wasn’t because he disapproved of fast starts.
    __________________
    I attribute it to a more laid back attitude that he ran club with. also, they had one year where the physical trainer did a bad job and several players had early hamstring problems.

  249. Jerkface March 1st, 2011 at 4:07 pm

    Functional doesn’t work as an adjective here?

    Its too positive , Saunders is butts! I mean, we could trade AJ Burnett or Mitre for Liriano, they are ‘functional’.

  250. Jerkface March 1st, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    The Haren deal is what you get when you combine a player that ownership thinks ‘has to go’ with ownership actually trying to make the trade.

  251. tampayank March 1st, 2011 at 4:11 pm

    knicks-heat rivalry extends to lohud :0

  252. m March 1st, 2011 at 4:14 pm

    “When I approached [Terry] Ryan, he said that he wasn’t here to scout the Yankees and explained how the Pirates were one of the teams he is covering this spring. When I asked follow-up questions about the Yankees, Ryan repeated that they were not on his agenda.”

    “The Twins have six starters competing for five spots in the rotation, but two of them (Nick Blackburn and Scott Baker) had elbow surgery in the offseason. The uncertainty surrounding Blackburn and Baker would appear to make it even more unlikely that the Twins would part with Liriano this early.”

    “There’s a reason I wouldn’t trade Nova when I had those discussions with Seattle last year,” Cashman said. “I was already going to give them a middle-of-the-order hitter. I wasn’t going to give them a guy who projects as a No. 3 starter, too.”

    http://www.myyesnetwork.com/16.....al_liriano

  253. Triple Short of a Cycle March 1st, 2011 at 4:15 pm

    Does anyoen know who else the DBacks wanted for Haren other then Joba?

  254. icebird753 March 1st, 2011 at 4:17 pm

    Oh, believe me SJ i know what bigot means lol and you fit the description perfectly. With you, it’s always that you know all and that anyone else here on this blog doesn’t know the “truth” like you do. And trust me, reading your disparaging comments to others on different occasions like you’re some higher force can get annoying. And yes, I used another “big word” (for you) correctly.

  255. Mell March 1st, 2011 at 4:21 pm

    “Oh, believe me SJ i know what bigot means lol and you fit the description perfectly.”

    Yet you have managed to misuse it twice in the last half hour.

  256. Jerkface March 1st, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    Yet you have managed to misuse it twice in the last half hour.

    -

    a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.

    Seems to apply here? SJ44 is being a bigot about Betsy’s opinions.

  257. Pat M. March 1st, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    icebird753…..You suffer from frostbite as your brain is humb

  258. icebird753 March 1st, 2011 at 4:33 pm

    haha thats weak, pat. guess you’re one of his followers here. and yea, what jerkface wrote.

  259. RayVT March 1st, 2011 at 4:41 pm

    icebird753 March 1st, 2011 at 4:17 pm

    I know SJ & he is no bigot! But an icebird753 sticking his nose into something that he has no business doing is perhaps ready to lose its beak!

    We like Betsy so we will listen to her! We don’t even know you!! So fly away with your rants! Or stay and act like someone who doesn’t have a birdbrain!

  260. Jerkface March 1st, 2011 at 4:44 pm

    I know SJ & he is no bigot! But an icebird753 sticking his nose into something that he has no business doing is perhaps ready to lose its beak!

    We like Betsy so we will listen to her!

    Isn’t the point of SJ44′s posts is that he doesn’t like Betsy and doesn’t wish to listen to her anymore? Do you guys even read what you’re writing when you do it?

  261. Jerkface March 1st, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    RayVT, SJ44 was pretty mean to Betsy, maybe you should be scolding him instead of the person trying to defend Betsy.

  262. RayVT March 1st, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    Jerkface March 1st, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    Betsy is a nice person & also very inteligent too. She sometimes goes off on a tangent of negativity. It can take hours of chatting to make her feel better about something sometimes. She & SJ have this conversation quite often. She assumed that SJ was citing her because she knew already what she had done, but SJ did not point her out. Note several people were doing the same thing, but Betsy assumed it was just her!

    They are like brother & sister! They will fight, but they will protect each other from outsiders. LOL

  263. Jerkface March 1st, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    RayVT, I think you’re mistaken, and that attitude is what allows the bullying of Betsy to continue. You are part of the problem. I don’t think Betsy wants her ‘brother’ doing what Sj44 is doing to her.

  264. Jerkface March 1st, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    Bernie’s 8 season peak: .321 .406 .531 .937

  265. RayVT March 1st, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    Jerkface

    It wouldn’t be the 1st time I was a contributor to a problem. SJ has shown a lot of patience over the years with Betsy, much more so than others. He is no bigot. He treats everyone the same and is much like what a typical NY’er sounds like! LOL! Sorry I couldn’t help myself with that one, being a southerner. (No I don’t believe in stereotypes.) I like all people.

    Jerkface, I really enjoy your comments and ideas. I don’t quite understand your dislike of Trisha, also a friend of mine, so I will say my piece about that from time to time. I don’t take things personally unless someone makes it that way intentionally.

    I also for the record really like Betsy too! She doesn’t respond well to “No”. She does respond well to “while I don’t quite agree with you Betsy because”. SJ’s style is “No” or “This is the way it is.”

  266. RayVT March 1st, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    Jerkface March 1st, 2011 at 5:08 pm
    Bernie?s 8 season peak: .321 .406 .531 .937

    I didn’t realize it was that good! Thanks!

  267. icebird753 March 1st, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    lol i’m a new yorker too, but i refuse to just let him push others around like that. it’s just not right, a person’s conscience could tell him or her that. and i’m def not an outsider, i frequently read and I write comments here and there, you just prob never saw them…and choosing to stay away and not come to a person’s defense when you see something wrong going on is being a birdbrain to me

  268. icebird753 March 1st, 2011 at 5:22 pm

    and i mean no offense in saying that ray, i just have a diff opinion

  269. RayVT March 1st, 2011 at 5:30 pm

    icebird753 March 1st, 2011 at 5:22 pm

    No offense taken! You don’t know me & I don’t know you! I am sure I have seen you on here before. I have seen SJ take literally hours answering her questions, concerns & LOL fears. She goes off & worries a lot sometimes. Once in a while SJ will be short with her. Kind of snap her out of it so to speak. Betsy seems to like attention. She is harmless & often provides good info too.

  270. RayVT March 1st, 2011 at 5:31 pm

    icebird753 March 1st, 2011 at 5:22 pm
    I meant to say also I am sorry if I offended you! It is far too easy to type things w/o thinking! Again I appologize.

  271. icebird753 March 1st, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    none taken

  272. RayVT March 1st, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    icebird753 March 1st, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    Thanks!

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