Cervelli’s status uncertain after MRI
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 02, 2011 
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After fouling a ball off the arch of his left foot, Francisco Cervelli went for a CT scan that was negative. He then went for an MRI that was not conclusive. Doctors are going to review the MRI results further tonight and the Yankees hope to know more tomorrow.
“He wanted to stay in (the game),” Joe Girardi said. “I said, no, this is spring training.”
Cervelli didn’t sound too concerned when he left for the tests, but clearly he doesn’t have the best luck in spring training. He broke his wrist two years ago and was hit in the head last year.
“He might need to get on Mo’s program,” Girardi said.
Montero come on Down.
Poor Cervelli, he was doing so well making his case to be the backup. Hopefully its not serious. Guy can’t catch a break in ST
Martin catches on Friday and Mitre starts of Monday
A quick off the topic note – check out:
http://www.minorleagueball.com.....sident-for
for an interview with Mark Newman.
Cervelli got ” Pipped.”
I am not getting into the rhetorics what defines transition or ‘spotty’ Jerk, The most salient part of dev ml pitching to me is identify the right talent (a difficult process depending on age and exp), for years Yanks largely neglected the amateur draft til Cashman took full reign in 05. Greater emphasis was put on developing the farm and we r starting his fruits of labor…
Now we have a bunch of talented the guys who has the stuff to pitch in the ML. some may falters but more than likely one, two or more may stick. I think the impetus is on drafting and identify and developing talents.
Kew-
Thanks for the link. That was an excellent interview with Newman.
Now we have a bunch of talented the guys who has the stuff to pitch in the ML. some may falters but more than likely one, two or more may stick. I think the impetus is on drafting and identify and developing talents.
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I agree with you. I think the success of the next group of pitching prospects, starting with Nova, and all the guys at AAA and AA will show us how the Yankees do with pitchers.
Considering the bust rate for pitching prospects, I can’t help but be pleased at the success of the yankees farm lately.
“Considering the bust rate for pitching prospects, I can’t help but be pleased at the success of the yankees farm lately.”
As far as I’m concerned it is one starter on the Yanks, the pen is a different issue. I have no idea how many starters other teams produce, that is a different issue from success rate anyway.
As to future success of the farm twirlers we can only hope.
Thanks for that interview
Catchers need to be durable. Hopefully he doesn’t make this an annual recurrence as Jesus waits in the wings….
Hey GB, hope all is well.
LGY, if you are around I blame this interminable debate with jerkface on you, because I had no intention of even posting here today.
Checking out.
Jerk, i hope Cash keep on doing what he is doing which is stockpiling talents. there is str in numbers. Combine with our financial might it’s the wtg imo.
Hey, ASimon. all is just fine here, thank you for asking. Hope you and Little Saint, Jr, and mrs saint are doining great.
the kid pitchers have been great for the most part. Some of the hitters are doing well, too.
Yup strength in numbers. For every number 1 prospect that comes up and keeps a spot in a major league rotation, there are the bones of 4 others no one cares about or remembers.
Thanks GB. We’re doing well. Little Simon Jr. is growing exponentionally, and is developing his range already. Vocally.
We’re tired of course, but that’s part of the experience. Has kept my visits here less frequent, though I do see that those young arms are progressing.
Blake, if you’re around – I had to get back to work. I know Felix is only 25, but he’s also only one pitcher. I can not trade 3 prime prospects for him, I can’t. I would trade Brackman for sure………and I’d probably trade Betances (not saying I’d do both, though maybe I would), but no way all 3……….
My point being that as good as Felix is, he can only hold down 1 spot in our rotation
The scary part for teams looking at the Yanks is that the Yankees are really good, and extremely deep in most key areas in the MiLB. Also, with the Yes Network & the new YS they are cash flowing really well too.
The Yankees have the Brand, the talent, the depth & the money. Literally the Yanks can basically pick & chose what they want to do next. A lot of MLB teams have made a living off the revenue sharing & MLB offices off the Luxury cap. I wonder who the Commish will loan money to next? Dodgers/Rangers/Mets/…
What most of us think as a Commisioner gone wild & we are disgusted about, who placed his cronies in key ownership positions, did us a favor really of course without trying. He put imbeciles in key spots & they will actually be starved if the Yanks cut payroll by building within. Also, they will have to make firesales to stay a float. LOL! Mets, Dodgers, soon Rangers as they had to pay too much, Marlins, soon Brewers, & others.
Silva/Ramirez fighting in Cubs dugout today. It’s only 4 games into spring training fellas.
Anyone with espn insider? Front page there’s a fantasy rookie thing. Looks like Hellickson, Dominic Brown, and some Braves kid (Kimbrel?) are high up Just wondering if Montero is on the top 50 list.
“You and jerkface are concerned over whether the Yanks do things better or worse. I believe I originally said the Yanks don’t have a great track record transitioning pitchers. “Spotty” was subsequently introduced as shorthand for that. I still don’t think they have a great track record, at least as far as starters go, it took Hughes four years and he got an assist from Wang, the “Joba Rules” and all that, Kennedy getting buried and finally being traded away.”
Great or spotty, doesn’t make a difference. The Yankees success at transitioning pitchers is defined relatively/comparatively, or it has no meaning whatsoever.
You say not great or spotty. Someone else might say “superior”. Both can’t be right. So how do you determine who is? By putting the claims through some empirical scrutiny.
Wave, you are every right to choose a term, express your conviction to it, and ignore any attempt to define the term. But we should be able to agree that indeed is what’s happening.
You can’t describe the Yankees success rate at something and also claim their success rate compared to the other 29 teams is meaningless.
That renders all description – including your own – meaningless.
I don’t make the rules on this one.
Wave and I generally agree about Phil, but Phil’s history in the majors is littered with injuries and time devoted to rehab. It’s been a story of frustration, frankly. I still think he was rushed to the big leagues, but that’s another story for a different day.
Banuelos is a baby ; I’ve no interest in seeing him rushed to make the rotation next year.
Betsy, if someone offered you $10,000 dollars or three $10,000 lottery ticket with maybe 4-1 odds, which would you choose?
RayVT,
It’s good to be the Yankees. : )
In the old days it was just rub some dirt on it.
Now, we don’t even bother with plain x-rays, it’s striaght to CT scanning, and MRI. The Yanks sure don’t skimp in the imaging department. Just goes to show how difficult it is sometimes to make a diagnosis. I’m wondering if there’s something that makes them concerned about a hairline fracture. Just speculating.
Also just goes to show how quickly one can go from a surplus to “it’s a good thing we have so and so”.
Hope Cisco is ok.
I love prospects as much as anyone. I go to about 20 Blueclaws games per year since they are 5 minutes away and always get tickets when the Yankees are in town. I saw Montero hit a ball there a few years ago that I don’t think has landed yet.
But…. if Seattle put Felix on the block, that is a dude you back the prospect-truck up for and never look back when he’s throwing 2-hitters against the Sox in October.
Stuckey, obviously the $10,000.00, but it’s still 3 vs. 1 and again, Felix can only hold down one spot. It’s not that important to me, though, because there’s no way Felix is being traded.
?He might need to get on Mo?s program,? Girardi said.
What does that mean?
DaSaint007 March 2nd, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Thanks GB. We’re doing well. Little Simon Jr. is growing exponentionally, and is developing his range already. Vocally.
We’re tired of course, but that’s part of the experience. Has kept my visits here less frequent, though I do see that those young arms are progressing.
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That’s great, Simon. he has to develop his on field communications skill fully. Next, he needs to learn how to listen. Listening is harder to teach than talking. Of course, there will be no issues with his range. The last thing to develop will be hitting…other kids, pets, parents and finally big spoons on metal pans. You’ll love that skill.
Pete Abe is about to blow a load in his pants because ortiz stole a base. Guess the sox have it all wrapped up now .
Good question, I was confused by that comment. Maybe time his return with Mo’s debut?
SICKELS: Let’s talk about some specific players. Jesus Montero. Everyone wants to know if he can catch.
NEWMAN: I think he can. Jesus has made severe improvements with the glove. If you didn’t know his name was “Jesus Montero,” and just watched him play, you’d look and say his glove was fine. He has a good arm, he receives the ball well, sets a good target. He’s really improved his mobility. A couple of years ago, he was not a good catcher, that’s true, but he is much more flexible now. He’s really worked hard at his technique. Julio Mosquera, our catching coordinator, has spent a lot of time with him. So yeah, I think Montero’s going to be a good defender.
SICKELS: Even if he works out with the glove, could the demands of catching hurt his bat?
NEWMAN: I don’t think it will hurt him. He’s just a really, really good hitter. I don’t think catching will impact that.
SICKELS: What about these reports that he is in contention for a backup job behind Russ Martin? Wouldn’t that stall his development, to sit on the bench?
NEWMAN: Montero is in the competition.
SICKELS: Really?
NEWMAN: It depends on what you mean by backup. If he is a backup who plays once a week, then no, I don’t think so. If he is a backup who can play 70 or 80 games, spend some time at DH and get enough at-bats to stay sharp, then yeah, I think that’s a possibility, that could happen.
“obviously the $10,000.00, but it’s still 3 vs. 1 and again, Felix can only hold down one spot.”
In the best case scenario. It may never be 3 vs 1. It might never be 2 vs 1 and even if someday 3 to 1, the production of the 3 may never equal the 1.
All three making the majors productively is in fact, pretty long odds.
“It’s not that important to me, though, because there’s no way Felix is being traded.”
Probably. Just killing time in early March.
Just coffee talk. You know, no big whoop.
File this one under “WTF”
http://johnsterling.blogspot.c.....isher.html
SICKELS: Austin Romine, your other strong catching prospect behind Montero. Good arm, good defensive reports, but he threw out just 23% of runners last year.
NEWMAN: I don’t worry about his glove, Romine can really catch. He turns bullets into marshmallows. His arm is strong and accurate. By the internal defensive metrics we use, Romine rates as a very strong defender, and Montero isn’t far behind him.
SICKELS: Could you see a situation where Romine is the eventual backup to Montero behind the plate?
NEWMAN: We just want to get them to the majors. Who knows what the roster will look like in two or three years?
SICKELS: The other top catching prospect is Gary Sanchez. Where does he start the year? How does his glove compare to Montero’s at the same stage?
NEWMAN: He should go to Charleston and will probably be there all year. The hardest thing for him will be adjusting to the workload and length of the season. He is way ahead of Montero at the same stage defensively. He’s very bright, works hard, needs experience but already calls the game well. He’s a very sharp kid. The bat is terrific and he is much more mature and professional about hitting than most players his age. He is way ahead of the curve mentally, outthinking the pitchers.
I think the comment means that he should take it slow and only appear in a few games/innings as to not be injured.
# GreenBeret7 March 2nd, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Martin catches on Friday and Mitre starts of Monday
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earth shattering
Betsy – I couldn’t disagree with you more.
I don’t see Phil Hughes’ career as being injury riddled. I don’t see 18-8, with an All Star berth , as being frustrating. You must have incredibly high standards.
Heck, just off the top of my head, Sandy Koufax, one of the greatest pitchers in baseball history, was so bad when he first started with the Dodgers in Bklyn that they couldn’t find anyone to catch him, for they all feared getting hurt. The Dodgers showed some patience and insight, and he’s now in the HOF as one one of the greatest pitchers of the 20th century.
I’m not saying Phil’s going to the Hall, but he’s not frustrating to me or others.
As far as Manny Banuelos, why don’t we let him, Banuelos, by virtue of his own performance, determine when he’s ready for NY.
Heck, I thought Buster Posey was being rushed by SF last year. I was wrong. The player showed he was ready. Who are we to argue.
The “Mo program” is no road games, doesn’t play in live games all that much, until the end of spring training.
He was joking, about how Rivera doesn’t play in many games and very, very few in the early weeks.
tyanksfan36 -
I was just going to answer the exact same way!
Mo’s program = Show up whenever and barely play
Stuckey, all 3 or even 2 or 1 don’t have to be aces, but they have very good chances to be productive major league pitchers………and yet they do, esp. Banuelos and Betances, have chances to be studs. I doubt Seattle would ask for all 3 anyway. I think they’d demand Phil and Montero for sure and at least 1 of those 3 pitchers.
Tough break for Serena Williams with the emergency surgery for a blood clot in her lung. Good that they caught that in time.
Joe, then we’ll have to disagree if you don’t think he was riddled with injuries for 2 years. What would you call missing 2 full years? He wasn’t on vacation after all. I was defending him because Wave talked about how he struggled for 4 years. No he didn’t – he missed 2 full years. Please don’t talk to me about having incredibly high standards when you misread my post completely.
If Manny didn’t have an appendectomy last year, he would be holding down a rotation spot now.
When guys are ready, they are ready.
Keeping them in the minors doesn’t help them.
He needs innings. Once he gets them, he’s coming to NY.
Also, why are you so angry about Banuelos? To me, it seems early for him to be pitching in the big leagues at 20 – if you disagree, that’s fine, but there is no reason at all to be so snarky.
I know this is way out there, but there is a chance the Yankees will not need any help at all.
SJ, he’d be holding down a spot at 19? It just seems awfully young…….
snarky – definition of snarky by the Free Online Dictionary …
adj. snark·i·er, snark·i·est Slang. 1. Rudely sarcastic or disrespectful; snide. 2. Irritable or short-tempered; irascible. …
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How was Joe being snarky?
You , as the queen of disagreement, should practice what you preach.
Speaking of the Mo program, I was lucky enough to see him pitch an inning last Spring Training. Got to see Andy start an inning but it rained right as he started and he didn’t really get to face any batters.
Riddled with injuries just has a different implication than what I think of when I think of Hughes. He definitely had a major set back from the first injury. But I always think of Hughes as a healthy player.
SJ44 March 2nd, 2011 at 5:49 pm
I wish I had a dollar for everytime you’ve had to say that! I could help pay off the Met’s debt! LOL!
NEW ONE====>>>
Doreen, my point was that Phil suffered injuries that severely curtailed his development……..he lost 2 years which he may still not be completely recovered from (curve is iffy, change as well). I was defending him – too bad Joe took it the absolute wrong way.
Joe from Long Island March 2nd, 2011 at 5:42 pm
Betsy – I couldn’t disagree with you more.
I don’t see Phil Hughes’ career as being injury riddled. I don’t see 18-8, with an All Star berth , as being frustrating. You must have incredibly high standards.
Heck, just off the top of my head, Sandy Koufax, one of the greatest pitchers in baseball history, was so bad when he first started with the Dodgers in Bklyn that they couldn’t find anyone to catch him, for they all feared getting hurt. The Dodgers showed some patience and insight, and he’s now in the HOF as one one of the greatest pitchers of the 20th century.
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Joe, the rules really screwed Koufax and especially the Dodgers back in those days. Because they were bonus babies, the Dodgers had to keep Koufax on the MLB roster for 2 years when receiving a bonus over at $4,000 and above. 12 games in his 1st year and 16 games in his 2nd year. That same rule cost the Dodgers Roberto Clemente the same year. It set Koufax back years of development.
“Stuckey, all 3 or even 2 or 1 don’t have to be aces, but they have very good chances to be productive major league pitchers………”
Understand in baseball terms, good chance is maybe 1 in 3.
I also subscribe to the 1 ace equals his weight in 2 or 3 “productive guys” and for me the sure ace (with bonus youth) is worth a ton.
No right or wrong here. Just talking.
“I doubt Seattle would ask for all 3 anyway. I think they’d demand Phil and Montero for sure and at least 1 of those 3 pitchers.”
Hmmm, not sure that’s the direction Seattle would go if they were ever compelled to trade him.
Jack Curry and Jiim Duquette are now following NotHankStein–how funny is that? But where is Chad’s name on the follower list?