Colin Curtis going for MRI on shoulder
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 06, 2011 
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Colin Curtis jammed his right shoulder making a diving catch in right field this afternoon. He left the park with his arm in a sling, and Joe Girardi said Curtis will get an MRI tomorrow.
“I just landed on it funny,” Curtis said.
Without tests, the Yankees aren’t sure right now how severe the injury might be. Curtis seemed hopeful that it won’t be anything that causes him to miss significant time.
One other minor injury: Daniel Brewer left the game with some pain in his leg, but Girardi said the Yankees believe it was only a charley horse.
It’s a miracle Jon Heyman isn’t 400 lbs. All he does is tweet about food and take cheap shots at players.
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SI_JonHeyman had 3 breakfasts today. thats got to be a vandermeer like record. (hotel oatmeal at 6, dennys grand slam at 9:30, eggs served in pressrrom)
Heyman is baseball paparazzi.
I thought they were down on Viz because he married someone’s grandmother. Maybe I’m thinking of someone else. #loveisatabatafield
hilarious nick
I’m gonna start crying about the Yankees trading Joe Pepitone for Curt Blefary and giving away Ken Hunt and Lee Thomas to the Angels.
idea for Travel Channel:
Heyman v. Food
What’s the use of having oatmeal for breakfast, if you’re going to follow it up with the Denny’s cholesterol special a couple of hours later? It’s not like it’s a “get out of the cardiac ICU – free” card.
Hate seeing the youngsters getting beat up in ST games trying to impress.
GF, Heyman has a few new part time jobs this year. He’s going to be a hot air balloon, a float in the parades and a blimp at the football games. he’s money hungry.
Bobby Valentine just predicted the Yankees will miss the playoffs. Nomar disagreed with him and predicted the Yankees will be in the playoffs.
This feels like the hundredth injury this spring thus far .
The Yankees will not miss the playoffs unless they have major injuries.
# GreenBeret7 March 6th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
GF, Heyman has a few new part time jobs this year. He’s going to be a hot air balloon, a float in the parades and a blimp at the football games. he’s money hungry.
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He’s hungry, alright. We’ll probably find out in his next tweet how he’s going to resolve that problem.
Full disclosure: “love is a tabatafield” was a PeteAbe-ism.
“Again you have to judge trades based on the information available at the time….not in hindsight.”
Well, if you judge trades solely in hindsight then you’re being weeniesque, but some hindsight is allowed. After all, the arguments before and shortly after a trade is made are based on what people think the result of the trade are going to be.
“Vazquez viewed favorably over Liriano is out of balance & I think you know that. Liriano could be an ace-2 on the Yankees and is also a LHP. He’s also younger and can throw in the mid-90s. C’mon.”
now yes….in the winter of 2009 not so much. You have to judge this based on that time period, not now. Javy was coming off a great season with the Braves and had thrown 200 innings in 9 of his previous 10 seasons. Liriano has never done that at all…..not comparing Javy to Liriano now, that’s not what we’re talking about.
BTW, kd, I was at the Cal-Stanfurd hoops game yesterday. Great win. Not quite a sellout, but Haas was rocking. If I ever get around to updating my flickr page, I’ll post a nice pic I took of the Tree “mascot” standing underneath the scoreboard with the final up.
thanks to all who provided game commentary
Giuseppe Franco March 6th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
# GreenBeret7 March 6th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
GF, Heyman has a few new part time jobs this year. He’s going to be a hot air balloon, a float in the parades and a blimp at the football games. he’s money hungry.
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He’s hungry, alright. We’ll probably find out in his next tweet how he’s going to resolve that problem.
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He’s been barred from every “all-you-can-eats’ in Arizona. Bankrupted them all.
Speaking of weenies, Dwayne Wade may be the biggest weenie on the planet right now
Wade:”This is what everyone wanted. The world’s better now because the Heat are losing.”
LA Lakers are starting to get into their postseason frame of mind…..3-peat come June
Nick in SF….Cal Berkley Bears vs. USC Thursday at High Noon …..
“Wade:”This is what everyone wanted. The world’s better now because the Heat are losing.””
puh-leaze….
Kate,
did it stop snowing there?
Kate, I wish whoever did the updayes would do the complete games, instead of jumping into it and then just stopping. It gets a little crowded with 5-6 at the same time. Always good having someone at the game reporting too.
Bobby V predicted 90 wins for the Phils.
Most people hate LeBron.
I can’t stand Wade.
Always looks like he is on the verge of tears (and I guess he finally broke down today and let it out in the locker room) and complains to the refs about every.single.play
***updates***
http://riveraveblues.com/2011/…..ban-44281/
A nice man ban article from rab about him pitching in the bronx this year.
Wade and Lebron have to figure out who is going to be Batman and who is going to be Robin. You can’t have two Batmans…..it doesn’t work, and they need a big man who can do more than shoot jump shots.
Libyan rebels take heart in the Heat’s losses.
Valentine has the Mets to take it all, since he’s gonna be part owner.
nick, i almost went to that game. wish i had
valentine predicting the yankees will scuffle is just sad. he’s just pandering to the media outlet of the red sox nation, espn.
Bobby V predicted 90 wins for the Phils.
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How is that possible? Aren’t they going to have 5 20-game winners?
Yankeefem,
I’m not arguing that Javy was or is as good as Liriano….I’m arguing that at the time it made just as much to trade Vizciano for him as it would for Liriano now…..that’s all.
Yankee Bull Session in pix
http://www.pinstripedbible.com.....-bullpens/
As it stands now, the Knicks would play the Heat in the first round.
That would be interesting, especially when the Knicks send the Heat packing
Halladay will be the only Phillies starter to win 20 games.
yankeefeminista March 6th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Blake, I am not really interested in looking backwards and I understand why Cash traded for Javy. However, it is one thing to discuss Javy in the context of our innings eater needs and that he had a very good 2009, especially peripherally. But I wouldn’t take one year of Javy stats in the NL, and say that those stats prove Javy was better than Liriano was in 2010. You have to consider many variables including that Liriano is pitching in the AL with a DH and just flat out has better stuff than Vazquez & Liriano still had 9.44 K/9 in 2010. Plus most of Liriano’s numbers were actually superior to Javy’s including HR/FB & HR/9 rate, LD and GB rates a better FIP–2.66 to Javy’s 2.77. So, I get what you are saying, but IMO and the numbers bear it out Liriano’s 2010 was superior to Javy’s 2009.
I never mind the extra commentary, everyone has their own take on things. And it was nice to have Jerkface’s comments since he was actually there.
Fran
It has stopped snowing, but the roads aren’t totally clear yet, at least in the neighborhoods. Probably trying to save paying double time.
LGY, I admit the loss to the Cavs has diminished my enthusiasm for the Knicks this year. I hope they’re going to eventually be a really good team – next year – but they have no business playing the way they have against the Cavs. They simply can’t defend -period.
Viz only did ss with yanks
I doubt they’re going to hold off the Sixers for the 6th spot either.
Yankeefem….
I answered you and J Alfred above…..the discussion isn’t about whether Javy is better than Liriano now or at anytime, its about the justification of the trade that was made. Javy has had a better career than a lot of folks want to give him credit for, a guy that can throw 200 innings every year with a 3.5-4.5 era is very valuable…..that’s what Cashman thought he was getting because he had just done that for the White Sox 4 straight years and was coming off a career year with the Braves.
Kate,
Hope they clear the roads soon. Stay safe.
blake March 6th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
“Vazquez viewed favorably over Liriano is out of balance & I think you know that. Liriano could be an ace-2 on the Yankees and is also a LHP. He’s also younger and can throw in the mid-90s. C’mon.”
now yes….in the winter of 2009 not so much. You have to judge this based on that time period, not now. Javy was coming off a great season with the Braves and had thrown 200 innings in 9 of his previous 10 seasons. Liriano has never done that at all…..not comparing Javy to Liriano now, that’s not what we’re talking about.
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There wasn’t a bid for Liriano in lieu of Vazquez in that time period, so that comparison in terms of the years they had is out of context. Never mind the obvious that he’s throwing to pitchers instead of designated hitters.
The hypothetical point JF made was he’d trade Arod Viz for Liriano, the 27 yr old lefty who is a strike throwing machine vs AL lineups. Kind of a no-brainer.
Betsy,
Unfortunately, for whatever reason the Knicks play to their competition this season.
They played great defense against the Heat the past 2 times they played them, holding them under 90 both times. So, they are certainly capable of playing D. It is a matter of effort and communication mostly.
The effort will be there in the playoffs.
ERA+ : Javy 2009: 143
: Liriano 2010 : 115
Javy had more K’s, more innings, and better ERA (by almost a full run) and a better WHIP in 2009 than Liriano had in 2010.
ron March 6th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
http://riveraveblues.com/2011/…..ban-44281/
A nice man ban article from rab about him pitching in the bronx this year.
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We’ll definitely see him. The question is how much. Obviously inning restrictions preclude him pitching a lot, but I think it is clear that the Yanks think he is advanced enough to pitch now. It isn’t like he has to work on repeating his delivery, and aside from harnessing the newfound extra velo on his post-appendicitis FB, which he seems to have done, he doesn’t have that much more to learn in the minors. He just needs to strengthen his arm and get his innings up. Reasons not to rush him, but certainly expect to see him either in spot starts or late in ’11.
“The hypothetical point JF made was he’d trade Arod Viz for Liriano, the 27 yr old lefty who is a strike throwing machine vs AL lineups. Kind of a no-brainer.”
My only point is that it was as well in the winter of 2009 when they traded for Vazquez. Liriano really hasn’t done much in his career thus far…..he’s had 1 good season as a starter.. Javy had 10 +
blake March 6th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
ERA+ : Javy 2009: 143
: Liriano 2010 : 115
Javy had more K’s, more innings, and better ERA (by almost a full run) and a better WHIP in 2009 than Liriano had in 2010.
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sure he had himself a nice year, but and let’s not just completely disavow the inconvenient fact that he was pitching in a decidedly inferior league, even if you won’t concede that these two are a different level of pitcher.
Looks like the Milwaukee 1st base job is Erick Almonte’s to lose.
ochocinco: I pick a random fan that doesn’t like the HEAT n we make a bet, if Heat win ring I get your paycheck,if Heat lose u get my 1st game paycheck 24 minutes ago via Seesmic for Android
You trade your third best pitching prospect for a cy young pitcher when that pprospect is 3 to 4 years away with injury concerns.
J Alfred,
they are different level pitchers now….the Javier Vazquez from 2009 really wasn’t. Actually he had proven himself to be a year in year out horse that consistently ate up quality innings. That’s what Cashman traded for and it was justified at the time.
Knicks need a new coach to truly evolve into a top tier team. The talent is there and will get only better in the next couple of years (assuming the new CBA still has the MLE, room for a potential 3rd max, etc.).
Now they they are back as a serious team, they need to ditch the coach and bring in a guy to stress defense. With this roster, they’ll score regardless of coach or style. But they need a guy to come in and emphasize D every night, not just on National TV games against good teams.
blake March 6th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
ERA+ : Javy 2009: 143
: Liriano 2010 : 115
Javy had more K’s, more innings, and better ERA (by almost a full run) and a better WHIP in 2009 than Liriano had in 2010.
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Not to belabor this, but Liriano’s K’s were 9.44 to 9.77 (and Javy’s K’s were in the NL w/pitchers hitting and some pretty putrid hitting teams). I am not a big fan of ERA which is fielding dependent; In 2010, Liriano’s FIP was 2.66 and in 2009 Javy’s was 2.77. Javy pitched more innings but Liriano’s weren’t too shabby @191.2 Anyway, I think this has been played out. Bottomline is I would choose Liriano, the pitcher and his 2010 season over Javy and his 2009 season, and you wouldn’t.
I’d prefer to see Liriano qualify for the ERA title 2 years in a row before giving up a lot for him. That would be something new for him.
“Bottomline is I would choose Liriano, the pitcher and his 2010 season over Javy and his 2009 season, and you wouldn’t.”
No I would take Liriano because he’s left handed, younger, and still has upside….that’s not my point. My point is that trading Vizciano for Javy made sense in 2009 and trading him for Liriano now would make sense as well if he were still with the club…..that’s all.
But that said, Javy had a very long track record of being a quality starting pitcher….Liriano does not.
blake March 6th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
“The hypothetical point JF made was he’d trade Arod Viz for Liriano, the 27 yr old lefty who is a strike throwing machine vs AL lineups. Kind of a no-brainer.”
My only point is that it was as well in the winter of 2009 when they traded for Vazquez. Liriano really hasn’t done much in his career thus far…..he’s had 1 good season as a starter.. Javy had 10 +
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Vazquez was 33 years old and was coming to a league he wasn’t going to excel in, much less a ballpark that was not advantageous for him. If I am trading a Vizcaino, I want a ML pitcher who is under 30, has better stuff, and whom I can lock up for a while. Liriano hasn’t done much in his career compared to Javy might have something to do with being seven years younger. He also had an abrupt 2008 with the TJS.
blake March 6th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
But that said, Javy had a very long track record of being a quality starting pitcher….Liriano does not.
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One guy is nearly a decade younger than the other.
The NL isn’t AA….their is a difference but its not nearly as much as some folks make it out to be. These players come from the same place and are all big leaguers. Javy didn’t pitch well because he lost his stuff…..not.because of the AL.
Jerkface March 6th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
You trade your third best pitching prospect for a cy young pitcher when that pprospect is 3 to 4 years away with injury concerns.
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Cy Young pitcher is very dramatic use of language, except Vazquez would never be in the running for the Cy Young in the American League. Do you think otherwise?
GreenBeret7 March 6th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
I’d prefer to see Liriano qualify for the ERA title 2 years in a row before giving up a lot for him. That would be something new for him.
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Agree and I wouldn’t give up a Killer B or Montero for him. More a hypothetical conversation for me about Liriano vs. Javy based on a earlier comment about the one year of numbers and who had the better year. As for the trade, I was always against it, but a different conversation and yesterday’s news.
besides the Pepitone, Lee Thomas and Ken Hunt trades that I’m still crying over are the Johnny Blanchard and Roland Sheldon for Doc Edwards and the Maris for Charlie Smith trades.
Jerkface, how did Alex look defensively and generally moving laterally flexibility-wise? Did you notice?
yankeefeminista March 6th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
GreenBeret7 March 6th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
I’d prefer to see Liriano qualify for the ERA title 2 years in a row before giving up a lot for him. That would be something new for him.
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Agree and I wouldn’t give up a Killer B or Montero for him. More a hypothetical conversation for me about Liriano vs. Javy based on a earlier comment about the one year of numbers and who had the better year. As for the trade, I was always against it, but a different conversation and yesterday’s news.
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Given Liriano’s prior seasons and history, I would have gone the Cazquez route also. NYYs need a starter that they could trust and that was Xazquez. Just worked out the other way around. However, not so sure that I’d trade Vizciano straight up for Liriano right now, given some of the news releases.
***Vazquez***
blake March 6th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
The NL isn’t AA….their is a difference but its not nearly as much as some folks make it out to be. These players come from the same place and are all big leaguers. Javy didn’t pitch well because he lost his stuff…..not.because of the AL.
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It’s very different. What’s not different per se is that there are aces in the NL that would succeed in the AL, because they are great pitchers, regardless. Javy is not one of those. THe difference is NL pitchers get to a freebie out at the bottom of the lineup and even put a better hitter on because the pitcher batting is so automatic. Pitcher friendly parks, etc.