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Late Monday notes: Nunez making his case

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Mar 07, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Given the state of the Yankees rotation, the flurry of swing changes in camp, the emergence of Jesus Montero as a roster favorite and possible resurgence of Eric Chavez, the position battle that’s gone completely overlooked this spring is between Eduardo Nunez and Ramiro Pena for the utility job. The importance of a utility man will be diminished if a big hitter is available to backup at third, but clearly Derek Jeter isn’t going to play 162 games at short. One of these two is going to get fairly regular at-bats.

“I think I have a good chance,” Nunez said. “I’m working hard.”

Nunez and Pena are friends. They seem to be around one another constantly at the Yankees spring training complex, and their lockers are only a few feet apart, but they seem to be jockeying for one spot. The Yankees know what they have in Pena — terrific glove, big league experience, very little offense — but Nunez is something of an unknown with only 50 big league at-bats, and limited experience away from shortstop.

“I am getting more comfortable with Nuney at second,” manager Joe Girardi said. “He’s an exciting player. The young man has a lot of talent. It’s just a matter of putting it all together.”

This offseason, Nunez spent seven weeks working with Robinson Cano in the Dominican Republic. He said they worked on hitting and general fitness, but Cano also worked with him at second base, including some work on turning a double play. He’s looked pretty good there this spring, and today he hit a three-run homer that brought his spring average up to .286. Pena just picked up his first hit.

• Turns out Greg Golson hurt his rib cage during tonight’s game. “I’m not exactly sure what he did,” Girardi said. “He came in and said it was bothering him.” Doesn’t sound too bad, but the Yankees should know more tomorrow.

• With three more hits this afternoon, Eric Chavez is continuing to make a strong impression on the Yankees. “You could see it right away that he had life, that the ball was jumping off his bat when we first started,” Girardi said. “He looks good to me. I watched him run the bases. There’s nothing that I’m seeing from him that would tell me he’s been hurt the last couple of years. Let’s keep it that way.”

• Andrew Brackman is scheduled to make his spring debut tomorrow.

• Here’s Girardi explaining the Colin Curtis situation: “He’s going to be out a while. I don’t have the exact diagnosis for you yet. He took the MRI today and Dr. Ahmad is going to look at it. My sense is he’s going to be out a while.”

• Rafael Soriano’s spring debut will be either Wednesday or Thursday. He pitched a simulated inning this morning but had to face one extra hitter because he got three outs too quickly.

• Girardi said we could start to see all of the Yankees regulars in the same lineup as soon as Sunday. “We’re getting closer to playing with some different things (with the lineup),” he said. This morning, the Daily News reported that there’s a strong push for Brett Gardner to slide into the leadoff spot.

• When asked about A.J. Burnett’s outing, Girardi cited the exact same at-bat that Burnett talked about this afternoon. “The way he finished getting (Wilson) Valdez,” Girardi said. “Strike after strike after strike, in a 2-2 count, down and away. I was really happy.”

• Four pitchers likely to make the big league roster pitched today (Burnett, Chamberlain, Feliciano and Mitre). They combined for eight scoreless innings with six strikeouts and no walks. Burnett, Chamberlain and Feliciano carried a perfect game through the fifth inning of this afternoon’s game.

• Mark Prior pitched another scoreless inning in the afternoon game. He’s still an extreme long shot to make the team, but he’s allowed just one hit through three innings. There might still be something left in that arm.

• Sergio Mitre made his first start after two relief outings. He went three innings, having not thrown more than two in either of his previous appearances. Mitre said he felt no fatigue and got better as the game progressed. “I’m trying to make their (rotation) decision as hard as possible,” Mitre said.

• Mitre’s three scoreless innings were also thanks to a terrific throw by Golson, who threw out Mark Reynolds at the plate, making an on-the-fly throw from mid center field. “We saw (his arm) last year,” Mitre said. “It’s a cannon. Saves runs.”

• Curtis Granderson hit his second spring homer, part of a two-hit day. Jorge Posada also had two hits. Of course, those came in today’s first game. The second game was a scoreless tie with four Yankees hits: Derek Jeter, Alex Rodriguez, Melky Mesa and Damon Sublett. Adam Warren and D.J. Mitchell each pitched two scoreless innings in the nightcap, Andy Sisco and Ryan Pope pitched a scoreless inning apiece.

Associated Press photos of Nunez, Granderson and Posada

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256 Responses to “Late Monday notes: Nunez making his case”

  1. Rich in NJ March 7th, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    Nunez clearly offers a lot more than Pena.

  2. Carl March 7th, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    Chad just want to say you’re doing a hell of a job this spring training.

    Thanks a lot.

  3. RadioKev March 7th, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    I second that, Carl.

    Gardener needs to be the leadoff man. It makes too much sense. If Gardener played to the best of his abilities, and if Jeter played to the best of his abilities, Gardener still offers too much to not lead off. Jeter’s got to slide down to the #2 spot, and he’ll have to battle to hold onto it versus Swisher.

    That would be the smart thing to do.

  4. West Coast Yankee Fan March 7th, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    Good follow up to the conversation here yesterday on the Nunez – Peña competition. Nunez is just a better ballplayer IMO. There’s no reason for him not to win that battle provided the spring continues the way it has started.

  5. West Coast Yankee Fan March 7th, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    “We’re getting closer to playing with some different things (with the lineup),” he said. This morning, the Daily News reported that there’s a strong push for Brett Gardner to slide into the leadoff spot.”

    Well, looks like that may be the direction Girardi is headed. I don’t know what other lineup changes he could be talking about. I’m surprised.

  6. tyanksfan36 March 7th, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    Poor Pena, gonna lose his spot on the ML team but at least he can always say he got his World Series ring earlier in his career than Arod.

  7. Rich in NJ March 7th, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    Pena should go to the mL and work on his offense. He’ll get another shot somewhere.

  8. GreenBeret7 March 7th, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    Watching a guy like Homer Bailey, with his talent to continually struggle is almost painful to watch.

  9. GreenBeret7 March 7th, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    Not a good day by SJ’s nephew.

    “TSanchez26 Tony Sanchez
    by MLB_Prospects
    definitely has food poisoning, what should i do? i hate throwing up”

  10. LGY March 7th, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    Jeter started 151 games at SS last year. Cano started 158 games at 2B.

    That would have left 15 games for Nunez (assuming Chavez makes the team to backup Alex and Tex)

    Figure about 4 PA’s a game and that is only 60 PA’s on the season.

    Tough to justify carrying Nunez if he is only going to get around 60 plate attempts next season.

    I guess it depends on if he plans to rest Jeter regularly and even then I am not sure if there will be enough PA’s for Nunez.

    I think he may only make the team if Chavez does not.

  11. tyanksfan36 March 7th, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    GB

    Saw that earlier. Poor guy.

  12. Jackson March 7th, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    I can’t say enough about George Springer. I hope he falls to the Yanks pick in the upcoming draft though I doubt it.

  13. Rich in NJ March 7th, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    “Tough to justify carrying Nunez if he is only going to get around 60 plate attempts next season.”

    If you’re a win-now team, then you should do everything you can to actually win now.

    What does Nunez have left to learn at SWB? He could stagnate there.

    Jeter should play about 140-145 games, imo. It will likely keep him fresher and less susceptible to the nagging injuries that some say he always plays with.

  14. LGY March 7th, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    If it is only 60 plate attempts, the difference between Nunez and Pena is 1 BB and 3 hits.

    Plus you need to factor in worse defense from Nunez.

  15. West Coast Yankee Fan March 7th, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    Chavez and Nunez don’t effect each others. Chavez backs up 3B and 1B. Nunez backs up SS and 2B.

  16. Giuseppe Franco March 7th, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    Here’s the thing about having Gardner leading off.

    It makes sense in so many ways but the one area where Girardi will be hesitant to do that is on days the Yanks face a tough lefty (Lester, Price, etc., etc).

    Girardi also doesn’t like moving his big kahunas around the lineup and Jeter is one of those guys. He likes to have guys like Jeter, A-Rod, and Teixeira hit in certain spots and leaves them there the entire season.

    I’m not sure Girardi is going to want to hit Gardner lead off one day and then have Jeter hit lead off the next day.

    It shouldn’t be that big of an issue, but this is Girardi we’re talking about, so he does have some odd preferences that he doesn’t like to change.

  17. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    Chavez and Nunez don’t effect each others. Chavez backs up 3B and 1B. Nunez backs up SS and 2B.

    Chavez backing up third clearly affects Nunez, since Nunez got most of his starts last year at third.

  18. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    If they don’t plan to get Nunez regular work, its very possible he is sent down to AAA to stay fresh. Because if an injury occurs, its going to be Nunez taking over not Pena, but not if he is sitting on the bench getting no work.

    Would they take Jeter out of lineups late for a defensive replacement?

  19. West Coast Yankee Fan March 7th, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    Jeter and Cano will get enough days off.

    Peña discourages giving them days off because he is a zero at the plate. Nunez would not do that. I don’t see enough of a difference in the defense to warrant choosing Peña.

    In the end, Nunez is a better ballplayer. Why choose a weaker one?

  20. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    Chavez making the team over a 5th OFer, third catcher, or 2nd BIF takes starts away from Nunez.

  21. Tar March 7th, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    If it’s a LH pitcher on Alex’s day off I am not sure Chavez would start over Nunez.

  22. LGY March 7th, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    “Chavez and Nunez don’t effect each others. Chavez backs up 3B and 1B. Nunez backs up SS and 2B.”

    ——————

    Of course they do, because Pena was the primary back up for 3B, SS, and 2B last season.

    60% of Pena’s plate attempts last season came at 3B.

    72% of Nunez’s plate attempts last season came at 3B.

    If Chavez makes the team it is a completely different dynamic than they have had in recent years.

  23. West Coast Yankee Fan March 7th, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    Chavez backing up third clearly affects Nunez, since Nunez got most of his starts last year at third.

    ***************

    Not this year with Chavez. Nunez backs up SS and 2B.

  24. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    Jeter and Cano will get enough days off.

    Cano is going to play 155-160 games. Theres not enough days off. They aren’t going to sit Cano, who at 28 is a guy that SHOULD be playing every day because Nunez is better than Pena. There is still a drop off.

  25. Rich in NJ March 7th, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    And if Chavez is blocking Nunez, he should be here. It would be yet another example of the Yankees retarding the developing of a talented kid with a marginal veterans. It’s a like a disease.

  26. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    Not this year with Chavez. Nunez backs up SS and 2B.

    You aren’t understanding. If Chavez makes the team it takes away opportunities from Nunez, who can backup third. Which means it affects his playing time.

  27. Rich in NJ March 7th, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    shouldn’t

  28. Betsy March 7th, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    Poor Golson – so far we’ve had two tough injuries this spring; hope he’s not the 3rd.

  29. West Coast Yankee Fan March 7th, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    LGY March 7th, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    Of course they do, because Pena was the primary back up for 3B, SS, and 2B last season.

    ************

    And now Chavez is in the picture and he can hit. Last year doesn’t matter.

  30. LGY March 7th, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    “In the end, Nunez is a better ballplayer. Why choose a weaker one?”

    ——————

    Because it is not good for Nunez’s development or even probably the team next year.

    In case of injury Nunez is not going to be able to step in if he is rotting on the bench all season.

    If his plate attempts are so limited at the ML level it is best to keep him ready in Scranton.

  31. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    If Chavez doesn’t make the team, then you can pencil in Nunez for starts at third, SS, and second, which makes it a MORE VIABLE option to carry him. Nunez is one of our better trade chips, so I don’t think the yankees want him languishing on the bench.

    They would have to play Jeter in like 120 games to get him playing time.

  32. Betsy March 7th, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    Nice that Chaves continues to hit……..and that Prior is pitching well

  33. LGY March 7th, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    *may not be be able to step in*

  34. West Coast Yankee Fan March 7th, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    Not this year with Chavez. Nunez backs up SS and 2B.

    You aren’t understanding. If Chavez makes the team it takes away opportunities from Nunez, who can backup third. Which means it affects his playing time.

    **********

    I understand. This year both A-Rod and Jeter and/or Cano can be out of the lineup if necessary with both Chavez and Nunez on the roster.

  35. Rich in NJ March 7th, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    Nunez should backup every INF position but 1B.

  36. LGY March 7th, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    “And now Chavez is in the picture and he can hit. Last year doesn’t matter.”

    ————–

    What on earth are you talking about?

    Chavez clearly affects Nunez’s playing time.

  37. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    . This year both A-Rod and Jeter and/or Cano can be out of the lineup if necessary with both Chavez and Nunez on the roster.

    The Yankees should never endeavor to take 2 out of those 3 out of the lineup on any 1 day.

  38. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    And giving everyone a day off on the same day doesn’t solve the Nunez playing time issue.

  39. LGY March 7th, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    “I understand. This year both A-Rod and Jeter and/or Cano can be out of the lineup if necessary with both Chavez and Nunez on the roster.”

    ——————-

    This is flawed logic.

    Just because you have a stronger bench, doesn’t mean you want to rest your regulars all the time.

    It is still a gigantic step down when Alex or Cano are not in the lineup and a big step down when Jetes is not.

    It is a luxury to have a stronger bench this year, but if these guys are healthy and performing they should be in the lineup as much as they always are.

  40. Rich in NJ March 7th, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    They won’t give everyone the same day off. That’s nonsensical.

  41. West Coast Yankee Fan March 7th, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    Here’s the 25:

    (12 pitchers)

    Tex
    A-Rod
    Jeter
    Cano
    Swisher
    Granderson
    Gardner
    Posada
    Jones
    Martin
    Montero
    Nunez
    Chavez

  42. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    A-rod is healthier and in better shape this season, he might play 140 games at third. Tex played in 149 games at 1st last year. So we’re talking 40 games for Chavez. Now if Chavez is GOOD, then they can actually make a rotational DH work. Except Jeter won’t be a DH, he’ll go to the bench.

    But the DH spot can be rotated amongst: A-rod, Tex, Chavez, Jones, Posada, Montero, Swisher

  43. LGY March 7th, 2011 at 10:39 pm

    And if you are talking about as few as 60 plate attempts or in that range, the team may actually be better with Pena, because of better defense.

    Again with 60 PA’s, just going by last years numbers (even though I think Pena will be better that last season) you are only talking about 1 BB and 3 hits.

    Pena may actually be the more valuable player than Nunez when the difference on offense is that small.

  44. Rich in NJ March 7th, 2011 at 10:39 pm

    Jeter should probably get one game off per week.

  45. RadioKev March 7th, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    I kind of agree with Girardi, that he doesn’t shuffle around his big guys. I think showing faith in proven superstars only makes sense. They’ve all shown consistant greatness in their careers. Minor slumps happen to everyone, and there isn’t much point in overdoing it with lineup changes.

    However Gardener is just so much better suited to lead off than Jeter that it shouldn’t even be an issue. Jeter was the lead off man when Gardener wasn’t on the team, and when Gardener was a great unknown. Gardener showed an ability to hit in the majors, and a great OBP all year long. He’s just an ideal lead off man with that OBP and speed.

    Like I said, if Gardener and Jeter both played to the best of their abilities this season, no question that it makes more sense to have Gardener lead off and Jeter hit second. It’s not to say Jeter is bad, but his skill set is better for a two hitter than a lead off, and Gardener could be a great leadoff man.

  46. GreenBeret7 March 7th, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    Only way I can see that Golson might have hurt himself was on the throw to the plate.

  47. LGY March 7th, 2011 at 10:41 pm

    Girardi telling Jeter he has to take regular time off. I believe it when I see it.

  48. Rich in NJ March 7th, 2011 at 10:41 pm

    Jeter shouldn’t hit 2nd. Maybe 7th.

  49. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 10:41 pm

    There is a reason Mark Newman and the Yankees don’t want to bring up Montero to sit on the bench, and the same will apply to Nunez. They obviously view him very highly. If he makes the team as the backup, they must have a plan to get him regular work. Not as regular as Montero should get, but you can kill prospects by giving them irregular work.

    Good hitters need to hit often.

  50. Rich in NJ March 7th, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    It’s Cash’s job to tell Jeter something that big. But he’s 37. The team comes first.

  51. Nick in SF March 7th, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    “If it’s a LH pitcher on Alex’s day off I am not sure Chavez would start over Nunez.”

    Maybe, but what about on Reggae Night?

  52. Rich in NJ March 7th, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    You also kill prospects by leaving in the mL too long.

  53. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 10:44 pm

    You also kill prospects by leaving in the mL too long.

    Yea but prospects need opportunity. Nunez doesn’t have it right now.

  54. PhiltheThrill March 7th, 2011 at 10:44 pm

    It’s easier to give Jeter and Cano off days when it doesn’t mean playing Pena.

  55. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    I don’t think the Yankees should give A-rod days off against LHP.

  56. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    It’s easier to give Jeter and Cano off days when it doesn’t mean playing Pena.

    It should never be easy giving a player like Cano a day off.

  57. Rich in NJ March 7th, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    “Yea but prospects need opportunity. Nunez doesn’t have it right now.”

    He does if they don’t waste PT on Chavez.

    If Nunez and Nova start the season at AAA because of has-beens like Colon and Chavez, I’ll puke.

  58. Jackson March 7th, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    Hey GB, have you had a chance to see George Springer play?

  59. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    Cano games played last 4 years: 160, 159, 161, 160

  60. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    He does if they don’t waste PT on Chavez.

    If Nunez and Nova start the season at AAA because of has-beens like Colon and Chavez, I’ll puke.

    Get your barf bag ready. Even if Nunez AND Chavez go north, Chavez will take away from Nunez’ play time. And I can definitely see the Yankees keeping a guy like Nova in AAA due to Colon/Garcia because if they DON’T pick Garcia or Colon those players are lost. It creates depth, even though its not really what we want.

  61. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    Rich, what is your end game with Nunez? He isn’t replacing A-rod Cano. So Jeter pretty much has to tank it. He isn’t going to be a starter on the Yankees for the next 3 years.

  62. Rich in NJ March 7th, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    “Get your barf bag ready. Even if Nunez AND Chavez go north, Chavez will take away from Nunez’ play time. And I can definitely see the Yankees keeping a guy like Nova in AAA due to Colon/Garcia because if they DON’T pick Garcia or Colon those players are lost. It creates depth, even though its not really what we want.”

    They probably will. They do a lot of stupid stuff.

  63. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 10:50 pm

    Warren just threw a damn good change up to get Luke Scott in this spring game. I like Warren.

  64. GreenBeret7 March 7th, 2011 at 10:50 pm

    Jackson, no, haven’t seen Springer.

  65. Rich in NJ March 7th, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    Jerkface

    Given my skepticism about what Jeter has left, I view him as insurance against a precipitous decline, be it this year or next year, until the heir apparent is identified.

    In the interim, I think he is their best backup option in the infield, offense/defense.

  66. Nick in SF March 7th, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    Giving a roster spot to Chavez would be stupid?

  67. Rich in NJ March 7th, 2011 at 10:52 pm

    “Giving a roster spot to Chavez would be stupid?”

    If he blocks Nunez.

  68. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 10:53 pm

    I think Nunez is certainly more offensively capable than Pena, but I’m not sure if he is the best backup overall for spot starts. I’d take Nunez on extended absences from our infield, and Pena if the number of starts is only going to be 10-20, because we don’t know how Nunez is going to play without regular time. Nunez played in 148 games between the minors and majors last year.

  69. Jackson March 7th, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    GB, he’s a good prospect, check him out. I played against a good friend of his, Jesse Carlson, now with the Blue Jays.

  70. Rich in NJ March 7th, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    What good is developing young players if you don’t give them extended opportunities? That’s pretty much why IPK isn’t a Yankee.

  71. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    Its like, Banuelos would obviously be really good in our bullpen, but he has to stay in the minors because we want him to start.

  72. Nick in SF March 7th, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    Keep the barf bag handy, I think Chavez has a very good chance of making the team.

    Nunez (or Pena) can still get hugs in Scranton.

  73. Rich in NJ March 7th, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    Except that Banuelos needs to stay stretched, has an innings cap, and has never been in AAA.

  74. Rich in NJ March 7th, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    And Nunez likely will never start here unless Jeter falls off a cliff or there is an injury.

  75. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    What good is developing young players if you don’t give them extended opportunities?

    To trade them. At least for the ones who are blocked: 3B, SS, 1B and 2B prospects. Signing super-stars means they will play and prospects won’t. If you want to play on the Yankees you better learn to catch or play the outfield.

    Or be a pitcher.

    Laird, Adams, Nunez, all these guys are getting traded or will end up as backups which could adversely affect their careers. They really need someone to suffer a major injury when they are ready to be called up to get play time.

  76. Rich in NJ March 7th, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    “Keep the barf bag handy, I think Chavez has a very good chance of making the team.”

    Of course, he’s over 30.

  77. GreenBeret7 March 7th, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    What’s the deal with Springer? Was he ineligible at UConn in 2010?

  78. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    Except that Banuelos needs to stay stretched, has an innings cap, and has never been in AAA.

    The point is the same. Nunez needs at bats and innings in the field. He isn’t a finished product. I think he can do a good job in the majors, I like Nunez, but he is going to get like 100 PA next year unless there is injury.

  79. Rich in NJ March 7th, 2011 at 10:59 pm

    “To trade them.”

    With the left side of the INF manned by a 36 and a 37 year old, I wouldn’t do that.

    Cash keeps talking about growing their own. Is it merely a theory?

  80. Against All Odds March 7th, 2011 at 10:59 pm

    # PhiltheThrill March 7th, 2011 at 10:44 pm

    It’s easier to give Jeter and Cano off days when it doesn’t mean playing Pena.

    ———————

    Pena?

  81. Rich in NJ March 7th, 2011 at 10:59 pm

    “The point is the same. Nunez needs at bats and innings in the field. He isn’t a finished product. I think he can do a good job in the majors, I like Nunez, but he is going to get like 100 PA next year unless there is injury.”

    What he needs is for their actions to match their rhetoric.

  82. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 11:01 pm

    Cash keeps talking about growing their own. Is it merely a theory?

    Dude our third baseman is signed for 100 years. He is a hall of famer who stays in excellent physical shape, they should be playing him at third well into his contract.

    They are growing their own players, but they also sign super-stars to supplement their homegrown players. You cheer for the Yankees, you know this. Cashman’s goal isn’t to have a team full of prospects, its to have a team full of good players.

  83. PhiltheThrill March 7th, 2011 at 11:01 pm

    If Chavez is healthy, I’d like both he and Nunez on the team. I want a strong bench.

  84. West Coast Yankee Fan March 7th, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    No way Chavez doesn’t make this team unless something happens. He is 8-17 so far and has won six gold gloves.

  85. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    A strong bench is only useful if you use it. Teams with strong benches usually don’t have strong starters. The strong benches are full of platoon players and split time guys.

  86. Nick in SF March 7th, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    “What good is developing young players if you don’t give them extended opportunities?”

    Whether he’s getting limited playing time in the Bronx or everyday play in Scranton, Nunez will still be developing.

    Maybe having Nunez instead of Chavez would help the team win more games, but it could easily be that the converse is more likely. I don’t see where “stupid” comes into play.

  87. LGY March 7th, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    It is not like Nunez had a great year at AAA.

    His OPS fell 60 points from the year prior, and his defense while improving is still a work in progress.

    I don’t see what the harm is in letting him play everyday at AAA.

    He still has stuff to work on and learn.

  88. West Coast Yankee Fan March 7th, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    Nunez has had 6 seasons in the minors.

  89. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    Backup infielders got 21 starts between 3B, SS, and 2B in 07, when all those guys were healthy and strong. If A-rod is as good as he looks in spring, Jeter bounces back, and Cano stays the same there will not be a lot of chances for these guys.

  90. Against All Odds March 7th, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    # Rich in NJ March 7th, 2011 at 10:59 pm

    “To trade them.”

    With the left side of the INF manned by a 36 and a 37 year old, I wouldn’t do that.

    Cash keeps talking about growing their own. Is it merely a theory?

    ————————————————

    They are trying to grow their own but they are caught between a rock and a hard place with trying to compete and develop.

  91. Jackson March 7th, 2011 at 11:06 pm

    He was, came back.

  92. m March 7th, 2011 at 11:06 pm

    Great stuff. Spring training results don’t matter, but the players look to be rounding into form.

    I love Girardi, but Nuney? Enough with the pet names.

  93. Rich in NJ March 7th, 2011 at 11:06 pm

    “Dude our third baseman is signed for 100 years. He is a hall of famer who stays in excellent physical shape, they should be playing him at third well into his contract.”

    I suspect he will get at least one game off every two weeks. Same with Jeter. That’s a game a week for Nunez, if they’re smart.

    “They are growing their own players, but they also sign super-stars to supplement their homegrown players. You cheer for the Yankees, you know this. Cashman’s goal isn’t to have a team full of prospects, its to have a team full of good players.”

    Who’s the superstar SS they are going to sign in the next two years? Reyes? I’ll believe it when I see it.

    All prospects? Come on.

    This team will be all it can until more young players get more opportunities.

  94. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 11:06 pm

    He spent 4 of those years in short season/low A/high A.

  95. Rich in NJ March 7th, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    “They are trying to grow their own but they are caught between a rock and a hard place with trying to compete and develop.”

    They can do both if they want to. I don’t believe it’s as hard as some would lead you to believe.

  96. West Coast Yankee Fan March 7th, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    Girardi’s motto is “it’s best to rest”. Jeter is going to get lots of days off as will A-Rod and Cano will get some as well.

  97. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    Who’s the superstar SS they are going to sign in the next two years? Reyes? I’ll believe it when I see it.

    All prospects? Come on.

    Yea all prospects, Rich. Because at one point Jeter was a prospect. Eventually Montero will be signed to a 25 mil a year contract mashing every year and he is gonna be blocking the NEXT Montero.

    There is an opportunity cost to retaining good talent, and its what takes away from the prospects.

  98. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    Girardi’s motto is “it’s best to rest”. Jeter is going to get lots of days off as will A-Rod and Cano will get some as well.

    Cano got 2 days off last year.

  99. Rich in NJ March 7th, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    “Whether he’s getting limited playing time in the Bronx or everyday play in Scranton, Nunez will still be developing.”

    The latest reason is Chavez. There will be other so called reasons as time goes on.

    “Maybe having Nunez instead of Chavez would help the team win more games, but it could easily be that the converse is more likely. I don’t see where “stupid” comes into play.”

    Because it’s a pattern.

  100. LGY March 7th, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    “Girardi’s motto is “it’s best to rest”. Jeter is going to get lots of days off as will A-Rod and Cano will get some as well.”

    —————————

    Then why has he never extensively rested Jeter and Cano and why in 2009 did Brian Cashman have to step in to get Girardi to rest Alex more?

  101. West Coast Yankee Fan March 7th, 2011 at 11:10 pm

    I don’t think Girardi will have any reluctance at all to keep Nunez. And remember, Chavez spells not only A-Rod but Tex occasionally as well. You keep Chavez and either Nunez or Pena.

  102. Tar March 7th, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    If Jeter sits once a week ( he should ) that’s over 20 starts at SS.

    Cano should probably rest more than 1 or 2 games a year as well. Let’s say 5 to 10 with some time at DH .

    That’s close to 30 games not including any starts at third. If Alex is the DH against a LH Nunez can get some ab’s that way as well. Also PH or running for Chavez is another way to get him some playing time.

    That’s plenty enough to justify Nunez as your back-up.

    Good night all

  103. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    Girardi is only going to rest players if they are in a slump, though in Jeters case he may end up with a lot of rest :x

  104. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    And remember, Chavez spells not only A-Rod but Tex occasionally as well. You keep Chavez and either Nunez or Pena.’

    No one cares about how much Chavez plays. He isn’t a yankee going forward.

  105. m March 7th, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    I understand Rich’s POV here. But blocking Nunez isn’t a reason to make roster decisions.

    I think Nunez has open some eyes. He would benefit from extended time with Robi and KLong.

    There’s a good chance Nooney and Chavy will both go North. So hugs all around.

  106. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    Cano should probably rest more than 1 or 2 games a year as well. Let’s say 5 to 10 with some time at DH .

    The young players in the prime of their careers who are MVP candidates should play as often as possible.

  107. West Coast Yankee Fan March 7th, 2011 at 11:13 pm

    LGY – Because it’s not 2009 it’s 2011 and Jeter is going to be 38 in June and A-Rod who had hip issues will be 37 in July.

  108. Rich in NJ March 7th, 2011 at 11:14 pm

    “Yea all prospects, Rich. Because at one point Jeter was a prospect. Eventually Montero will be signed to a 25 mil a year contract mashing every year and he is gonna be blocking the NEXT Montero.”

    Wait. Maybe we’re talking about two different things. I thought you meant a team comprised of all homegrown Yankees. I’d love to see it, but it isn’t happening.

    btw, But for Tony Fernandez’s elbow injury in ST in 1996, Jeter may not have gotten a chance.

    “There is an opportunity cost to retaining good talent, and its what takes away from the prospects.”

    There are always hard choices to be made. It seems they are almost always made in favor of veterans unless the young player is clearly better.

    Given the relative parity imposed by the current CBA, that type of thinking has left them with a very vulnerable rotation.

    So maybe the opportunity costs need to be assessed over a longer time horizon.

  109. West Coast Yankee Fan March 7th, 2011 at 11:14 pm

    Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    And remember, Chavez spells not only A-Rod but Tex occasionally as well. You keep Chavez and either Nunez or Pena.’

    No one cares about how much Chavez plays. He isn’t a yankee going forward.

    **************

    I’m talking about this season. Or are you saying Chavez doesn’t make the team?

  110. Against All Odds March 7th, 2011 at 11:14 pm

    # Rich in NJ March 7th, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    “They are trying to grow their own but they are caught between a rock and a hard place with trying to compete and develop.”

    They can do both if they want to. I don’t believe it’s as hard as some would lead you to believe.

    ———————————–

    I wouldn’t mind them giving the young guys more of a chance but I know it’s something that many fans and the Yankees aren’t in favor of. This is the price they pay for being the Yankees.

  111. LGY March 7th, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    “LGY – Because it’s not 2009 it’s 2011 and Jeter is going to be 38 in June and A-Rod who had hip issues will be 37 in July.”

    —————-

    So 38 and 37 are the magic numbers?

    Girardi has never rested Jeter extensively and Jeter has never taken to sitting out of games. He wants to be in the lineup everyday.

    Based on Alex’s health right now, there is a good chance he plays MORE than in the past couple years.

    There is no evidence at all that Girardi plans to rest his infielders extensively, especially Cano in his prime who will be out there for close to 162 games.

  112. Rich in NJ March 7th, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    “I wouldn’t mind them giving the young guys more of a chance but I know it’s something that many fans and the Yankees aren’t in favor of. This is the price they pay for being the Yankees.”

    I think that’s the CW, but I think the CW is wrong.

  113. Nick in SF March 7th, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    “That’s a game a week for Nunez, if they’re smart.”

    The whole “if they agree with me they’re smart, if they don’t they’re stupid” thing (which is the big brother of the “I’m pretty smart/pragmatic about these things, so I think the Yanks will see things my way” thing) is not pretty.

    The infielder who will probably need the most days off is Arod, and that’s the position that Chavez plays best.

  114. DaSaint007 March 7th, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    Early opinion:
    Montero makes team as backup C, Chavez as backup 3B/1B, Nunez as backup SS/2B, Golson as 5th OF.

    Some have commented that Chavez takes ABs away from Nunez. That may be so, but Chavez has an injury history, so actually Nunez backs him up also. Further, Jeter will get more rest, whether it’s full games or late innings. Nunez has speed and like Golson could be a baserunner late in games.

    Colon and Garcia will most likely be 4th & 5th starters, with Mitre as long man. Nova starts in AAA. Should either Colon or Garcia flame out, they can be released or traded, and Nova brought up.

  115. West Coast Yankee Fan March 7th, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    LGY March 7th, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    “LGY – Because it’s not 2009 it’s 2011 and Jeter is going to be 38 in June and A-Rod who had hip issues will be 37 in July.”

    —————-

    So 38 and 37 are the magic numbers?

    Girardi has never rested Jeter extensively and Jeter has never taken to sitting out of games. He wants to be in the lineup everyday.

    Based on Alex’s health right now, there is a good chance he plays MORE than in the past couple years.

    There is no evidence at all that Girardi plans to rest his infielders extensively, especially Cano in his prime who will be out there for close to 162 games.

    *************

    Evidence? This isn’t a court of law. Everyone is giving their opinions. I believe A-Rod and Jeter will get plenty of rest this season, if you think otherwise that’s fine.

  116. Tar March 7th, 2011 at 11:18 pm

    “The young players in the prime of their careers who are MVP candidates should play as often as possible”

    Cano’s numbers all steadily went down as the year progressed.

    Maybe he would have been the MVP if he took an occasional day off.

  117. m March 7th, 2011 at 11:18 pm

    Girardi don’t rest his players much because he had a terrible bench. If Pena is your backup then expect Jeter and Cano to get very little rest. If Nunez can show he can hit, expect more rest for your key guys.

  118. Rich in NJ March 7th, 2011 at 11:18 pm

    “The whole “if they agree with me they’re smart, if they don’t they’re stupid” thing (which is the big brother of the “I’m pretty smart/pragmatic about these things, so I think the Yanks will see things my way” thing) is not pretty.”

    The Yankees are always right meme isn’t pretty either.

  119. DaSaint007 March 7th, 2011 at 11:18 pm

    Yankee ‘pitching depth’ as funny as that sounds may end up as their strength going into the season. Just ask St. Louis.

  120. West Coast Yankee Fan March 7th, 2011 at 11:19 pm

    DaSaint007 March 7th, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    Early opinion: Montero makes team as backup C, Chavez as backup 3B/1B, Nunez as backup SS/2B, Golson as 5th OF.

    ****************

    There’s no room for Golson.

  121. DaSaint007 March 7th, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    Just today, Girardi commented that Cano could have used more days off. Expect them this season. Cano’s not playing as many games this year, so more opportunities for Nunez.

  122. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8XEZlfwCT4

    A new Luck Dragons video about BABIP.

  123. Nick in SF March 7th, 2011 at 11:22 pm

    Yes, but nobody in this discussion is arguing that the Yankees are always right.

    The only thing I am really asserting is that giving Chavez a spot on the team would not be stupid.

  124. LGY March 7th, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    “Evidence? This isn’t a court of law. Everyone is giving their opinions. I believe A-Rod and Jeter will get plenty of rest this season, if you think otherwise that’s fine.”

    ——————–

    “Plenty” is not really an opinion that adds to the discussion.

    And as has been said repeatedly, Nunez is not subbing for Alex if Chavez makes the team, so how much he rests is meaningless to Nuney.

    How many days off is “plenty” for Jeter?

  125. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    Rich,

    I think at heart we are agreeing here, but you just seem so much more bummed out about than I do. My point re: ALL PROSPECT TEAM is that the Yankees will always have some great player who is absolutely blocking a prospect.

  126. LGY March 7th, 2011 at 11:25 pm

    “Cano’s numbers all steadily went down as the year progressed. ”

    ——————-

    OPS

    April: 1.201
    May: .890
    June: .908
    July: .933
    August: .876
    September: .650

  127. Rich in NJ March 7th, 2011 at 11:25 pm

    “Yes, but nobody in this discussion is arguing that the Yankees are always right.”

    There’s a variant:

    “They are trying to grow their own but they are caught between a rock and a hard place with trying to compete and develop.”

    “The only thing I am really asserting is that giving Chavez a spot on the team would not be stupid.”

    It depends on the ripple effects, if any.

  128. DaSaint007 March 7th, 2011 at 11:26 pm

    WCYF:

    CC
    AJ
    Hughes
    Colon
    Garcia

    Mariano
    Soriano
    Chamberlain
    Robertson
    Feliciano
    Logan?
    Mitre

    Gardner – LF
    Jeter – SS
    Tex – 1B
    ARod – 3B
    Cano – 2B
    Swisher – RF
    Posada – DH
    Granderson – CF
    Martin – C

    Montero – C
    Chavez – 3B/1B
    Nunez – SS/2B
    Golson – LF/CF/RF

    Why is there no room for Golson?

  129. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 11:26 pm

    I’m talking about this season. Or are you saying Chavez doesn’t make the team?
    -

    Chavez will likely make the team. Though I’m not sure how they are going to finagle 3-4 roster spots on the 40 man for everyone.

    My point is , no one in this discussion cares that Chavez is backing up third and first because if Chavez has a good year he is gone next year. And all that time he spent at third and first took away from yankee prospect play time.

  130. West Coast Yankee Fan March 7th, 2011 at 11:27 pm

    I mean why invite guys to spring training?

    Chazez is only 34 years old. If healthy he could be a huge asset. He’s won 6 gold gloves and is 8-17 this spring so far. What more do you want from a backup at 3B and 1B?

  131. Against All Odds March 7th, 2011 at 11:27 pm

    CW?

  132. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 11:27 pm

    Why is there no room for Golson?

    You left out Andruw Jones who is absolutely on the team.

  133. LGY March 7th, 2011 at 11:28 pm

    Players like Cano play everyday. It is the same thing on every team with players like that at his age.

    He played 160 games last year. Maybe he plays 158 games this year and gets an extra day or two.

    He is still going to be in the high 150s minimum.

  134. Nick in SF March 7th, 2011 at 11:29 pm

    The biggest ripple effect of Chavez on the team could easily be more production on both sides from that roster spot.

    Or maybe he’ll break down, who knows. But the idea that putting Chavez on the team is some sort of litmus test on whether Cashman is committed to player development is ridiculous.

  135. Tar March 7th, 2011 at 11:29 pm

    Wow Lgy I can do that too.

    SLG

    765
    509
    510
    582
    491
    346

    avg

    400
    336
    333
    276
    292
    262

  136. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 11:29 pm

    I mean why invite guys to spring training?

    Because they want to see if they can get experienced players on the roster and in the event that the prospects aren’t ready. The problem is that due to the fact that you can’t option these guys to the minors, they tend to make the team.

  137. West Coast Yankee Fan March 7th, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    DaSaint007 – You left off Andruw Jones.

  138. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    Wow Lgy I can do that too.

    Whats the point of this? Further proving LGY right? Its impossible NOT to go down from a 1.2 OPS hot start.

  139. DaSaint007 March 7th, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    Jerkface….thanks.

    Revision:

    CC
    AJ
    Hughes
    Colon
    Garcia

    Mariano
    Soriano
    Chamberlain
    Robertson
    Feliciano
    Logan?
    Mitre

    Gardner – LF
    Jeter – SS
    Tex – 1B
    ARod – 3B
    Cano – 2B
    Swisher – RF
    Posada – DH
    Granderson – CF
    Martin – C

    Montero – C
    Chavez – 3B/1B
    Nunez – SS/2B
    Jones – LF/CF/RF

    WCYF: You’re right….there is there no room for Golson.

  140. m March 7th, 2011 at 11:31 pm

    How is Jones as a fielder nowadays? Better than Thames, I presume?

  141. DaSaint007 March 7th, 2011 at 11:34 pm

    Jones can still ably play the corners. And I can play the outfield better than Thames.

  142. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    How is Jones as a fielder nowadays? Better than Thames, I presume?

    He should be much, much better than Thames. Still has a good arm, would be a decent spot starter in center (better than Matsui was lol ) and play the corners well.

  143. ron March 7th, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    “Laird, Adams, Nunez, all these guys are getting traded or will end up as backups which could adversely affect their careers. They really need someone to suffer a major injury when they are ready to be called up to get play time”.

    Well that just about covers every scenario imaginable.

    How did jeter,mo,posada,pettitte,gardner,cano & eventually montero become everyday players?

    If jeter falls off in 2 years & nunez is a much better player,nunez will get more playing time,if nunez is not good enough,someone else will take the spot.

    Things have a way of working themselves out.

    If montero is killing the ball & holding his own defensively,he will take the starting catchers job.

    In baseball hype alone won’t cut it,you have to prove it.

  144. Tar March 7th, 2011 at 11:37 pm

    “Whats the point of this? Further proving LGY right? Its impossible NOT to go down from a 1.2 OPS hot start”

    Point is simple, Cano need to rest more than he has. And according to Dasaint “Girardi commented that Cano could have used more days off” Joe thinks so too.

  145. raymagnetic March 7th, 2011 at 11:37 pm

    “LGY – Because it’s not 2009 it’s 2011 and Jeter is going to be 38 in June and A-Rod who had hip issues will be 37 in July”

    No they won’t.

  146. Rich in NJ March 7th, 2011 at 11:38 pm

    “The biggest ripple effect of Chavez on the team could easily be more production on both sides from that roster spot.”

    No, there’s another one. He could just be just the latest marginal veteran to block the development of a good young player.

    “Or maybe he’ll break down, who knows. But the idea that putting Chavez on the team is some sort of litmus test on whether Cashman is committed to player development is ridiculous.”

    What’s even more ridiculous is to view one move in isolation when there is a pattern.

  147. LGY March 7th, 2011 at 11:39 pm

    ray,

    Good catch. Don’t know how I missed that.

    Why do you lie WCYF???

  148. LGY March 7th, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    “Point is simple, Cano need to rest more than he has. And according to Dasaint “Girardi commented that Cano could have used more days off” Joe thinks so too.”

    ———————-

    How is that simple? Cano barely rested last year and have an MVP type season.

    It is always easy to say Cano should have more days off in March, but when it gets down to it Girardi is penciling in his best player into the lineup almost everyday.

    What are you even talking about here. 2 or 3 less games?

    Cano, at his age, should very, very rarely get a day off.

  149. DaSaint007 March 7th, 2011 at 11:42 pm

    GG winners:
    1B – Tex
    2B – Cano
    SS – Jeter
    3B – ARod, Chavez
    CF – Jones
    C – Martin

    GG caliber:
    CF – Granderson
    LF – Gardner

  150. m March 7th, 2011 at 11:44 pm

    Good Martin quote from espn: “I don’t know anything about last year. All I know is what I’ve seen right now, and he [Burnett] looks pretty good.”

  151. DaSaint007 March 7th, 2011 at 11:46 pm

    Doesn’t matter whether Cano gets a couple more days off. You guys are forgetting about games where there’s a big lead. No need to leave some of your infielders there. That’s where a Nunez can get extra playing time. He doesn’t have to start a game. If he’s as good a hitter as he appears to be, and as good a fielder as he’s proven, he’ll get playing time.

  152. West Coast Yankee Fan March 7th, 2011 at 11:46 pm

    I never lie LGY. Make mistakes sure.

  153. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 11:47 pm

    How did jeter,mo,posada,pettitte,gardner,cano & eventually montero become everyday players?

    If jeter falls off in 2 years & nunez is a much better player,nunez will get more playing time,if nunez is not good enough,someone else will take the spot.

    Posada, worked in as the backup and was the catcher of the future, had no one blocking him
    Jeter – Pipped a dude
    Mariano – Was really good as a RP and then they made him the closer, didn’t need injury
    Pettitte – Was worked into the rotation
    Gardner – Took over for a crappy Melky Cabrera
    Cano – Took over for a crappy Tony Womack
    Montero – worked in as the backup and is the catcher of the future, isn’t blocked

    None of these guys had Hall of Fame, 25 million dollar players blocking them.

    Lets say A-rod gets hurt, and Laird comes up and does well. They aren’t trading A-rod. So when he comes back, Laird is going to suffer more.

    Nunez might not last 2 years. He needs Jeter to die right now.

  154. West Coast Yankee Fan March 7th, 2011 at 11:48 pm

    LGY March 7th, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    “…..but when it gets down to it Girardi is penciling in his best player into the lineup almost everyday.”

    **********

    Egads! You should have watched Yankee baseball in 2010.

  155. Tar March 7th, 2011 at 11:49 pm

    Lgy

    If you weren’t so interested in defending your GF all the time, maybe your comprehension would be a little better.

    We were discussing Nunez and playing time. Cano only rested 1 or 2 games the last few years. It is obvious that he needs to rest more than that. Read my post at 11:11. Which led to Jerk’s response and of course your defense. It’s like a tag team with you two. It’s pretty funny.

  156. LGY March 7th, 2011 at 11:50 pm

    “Egads! You should have watched Yankee baseball in 2010.”

    —————–

    ?

    Cano played 160 games in 2010.

  157. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 11:51 pm

    That’s where a Nunez can get extra playing time. He doesn’t have to start a game. If he’s as good a hitter as he appears to be, and as good a fielder as he’s proven, he’ll get playing time.

    That will keep him sharp defensively, maybe, but it doesn’t mean he is going to get ABs. He actually played pretty regularly when he came up last year. He played almost every day from Aug 19 to Sept 28 , 30 games, and 13 times got 0 PA. From Sept 5 to the 10 had 0 in every game, 4 times he got only 1 PA.

  158. Nick in SF March 7th, 2011 at 11:51 pm

    “What’s even more ridiculous is to view one move in isolation when there is a pattern.”

    Too dramatic. Anyway, it could easily be Chavez and Nunez, as has been repeated. Keep the barf bag close and change it often, Chavez could end up being a good contributer.”

  159. LGY March 7th, 2011 at 11:52 pm

    “We were discussing Nunez and playing time. Cano only rested 1 or 2 games the last few years. It is obvious that he needs to rest more than that. Read my post at 11:11.”

    ———————–

    How is it obvious? All you have said is he needs more rest. That is just a statement.

    Look at games played by players around the league.

    Elite, young, in their prime players like Cano play everyday unless they are injured.

  160. DaSaint007 March 7th, 2011 at 11:52 pm

    Three years flys by quickly. Jeter is too proud of a player to play for 3 or 4 years if his skillset diminishes radically. Should that happen, he’ll retire. Now I don’t expect that to happen, but stranger things have happened in baseball. Regardless, Nunez will have lots of opportunities at SS and 3B this season, possibly more next season, and maybe even more the following year. You just never know.

    Look at Gardner’s since 2008 as an example. Now about to start his 4th season, he’s arguably capable of being one of the best leadoff men in the game.

  161. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 11:53 pm

    It is obvious that he needs to rest more than that.

    Its not obvious at all, and your defense of it was weak. Cano was never going to hit .400. He might rest 5-10 games, but that is going to include DH time.

  162. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 11:54 pm

    The Yankee OF was full of opportunity because they had no one locked up long term when Gardner was breaking in. Nunez doesn’t have that same chance. He could end up traded for a starter.

  163. Ed H. March 7th, 2011 at 11:54 pm

    Looking at this team and the slew of good, young pitchers coming up, I’m more and more glad that we didn’t get Lee. That contract really would have dragged the team down (over 7 years.)

  164. West Coast Yankee Fan March 7th, 2011 at 11:54 pm

    LGY March 7th, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    “…..but when it gets down to it Girardi is penciling in his best player into the lineup almost everyday.”

    ************

    That is ludicrous. Girardi did not always put his best players in the lineup last year; he rested players all the time and there was a great deal of controversy about just that.

  165. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 11:55 pm

    And it would suck if Jeter sucks and his contract becomes an iron weight, because I don’t think he is going to retire. Maybe he won’t exercise his option if he sucks all 3 years, but he won’t retire mid contract. He will always be about to bounce back and every lucky babip-riding month will just give him hope.

    Which is why I hope the work he and K Long do rejuvenates him, because he is going to be around for 4 more years.

  166. West Coast Yankee Fan March 7th, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    ‘One area of concern was Girardi’s insistence on resting starting players. He moved players from one position to another, even when no one was injured.” – bleacher report

  167. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    Girardi did not always put his best players in the lineup last year

    Cano only missed 2 games. Barring injury, the good yankee players are playing every day. Everyone else on the team was injured at some point.

  168. LGY March 7th, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    “That is ludicrous. Girardi did not always put his best players in the lineup last year; he rested players all the time and there was a great deal of controversy about just that.”

    ——————

    Your first response, failed so try, try again?

    I said his best player. P-l-a-y-e-r. Singular.

    Robinson Cano. Girardi’s best player. Played every single game of the season except for two.

  169. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    lmao you just quoted bleacher report.

  170. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 11:57 pm

    You know high schoolers contribute to that?

  171. West Coast Yankee Fan March 7th, 2011 at 11:58 pm

    Jerkface you know damn well how much Girardi was criticized for resting players.

  172. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 11:59 pm

    Because they were all hurt!

  173. Jerkface March 7th, 2011 at 11:59 pm

    Cano, his best player, DHed twice, and played 2B in 158 games.

  174. West Coast Yankee Fan March 8th, 2011 at 12:00 am

    Well Jerkface – that was written by Perry Arnold who is 56 years old and shows how Girardi has managed in the past. And all the players in question are now older.

  175. m March 8th, 2011 at 12:01 am

    Only because there was a near collapse and stupid Boston got hot.

    And jerkface why must you mention jeter’s eventual imminent decline so often? Stop obsessing about it. :mad:

  176. West Coast Yankee Fan March 8th, 2011 at 12:01 am

    Over the course of 162 games players are going to get dinged up. It’s inevitable and Girardi’s managing style is to rest them even if they could grit it out and play. It’s not going to get any better as they age.

  177. Tar March 8th, 2011 at 12:02 am

    “Its not obvious at all, and your defense of it was weak. Cano was never going to hit .400. He might rest 5-10 games, but that is going to include DH time”

    Same goes to you and your comprehension as well. Since I never said he was going to hit .400. and I specifically mentioned DH. this is what I posted

    “Cano should probably rest more than 1 or 2 games a year as well. Let’s say 5 to 10 with some time at DH”

  178. LGY March 8th, 2011 at 12:02 am

    “Over the course of 162 games players are going to get dinged up. It’s inevitable and Girardi’s managing style is to rest them even if they could grit it out and play. It’s not going to get any better as they age.”

    ———————-

    Tex had a million injuries last year, yet he played in 158 games!

  179. DaSaint007 March 8th, 2011 at 12:03 am

    I guarantee that Girardi rests more of his regulars this season.
    Why else would you sign Gold Glove BACKUPS such as Chavez and Jones. And God forbid that Montero takes off offensively and defensively and/or Martin’s knees act up. He too may end the season as a GG backup.

    Who has GG backups? The depth is unheard of. Kevin Long mentioned it today, according to the YES announcers. That’s why you can rest your regulars more than last season.

  180. LGY March 8th, 2011 at 12:03 am

    Jeter is always dinged up and played 157 games last year.

  181. Jerkface March 8th, 2011 at 12:03 am

    The point is ANYONE can write for Bleacher Report, if I wanted to I could write for Bleacher Report ,and then you’d be quoting my articles for your arguments. That’d be funny.

    Perry Arnold is not a sportswriter with a media pass. He is a bleacher report nobody because bleacher report is trash.

  182. Jerkface March 8th, 2011 at 12:04 am

    And jerkface why must you mention jeter’s eventual imminent decline so often? Stop obsessing about it.

    Because it is eventual and imminent :)

  183. West Coast Yankee Fan March 8th, 2011 at 12:04 am

    TAMPA, Fla. — “There will be competition for the two vacancies in the Yankees’ rotation and for bullpen jobs, for the backup catcher’s position and on their bench, but not for the spot atop the batting order. That was made unequivocally clear Monday by Manager Joe Girardi, who quashed speculation that Derek Jeter, coming off his worst season, would drop in the lineup.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02.....rardi.html

  184. Jerkface March 8th, 2011 at 12:05 am

    Since I never said he was going to hit .400

    Your point was that he wore down as the season went on, but there was no where for him to go but down, and he ended up having a pretty great rest of the season and postseason. I read your 5-10 games as being OFF completely, and then time at DH.

  185. m March 8th, 2011 at 12:06 am

    So much premeditated angst, anger, and worry. Relax, or your hearts will seize up before the all star break. :P

  186. West Coast Yankee Fan March 8th, 2011 at 12:06 am

    Jerkface – instead of bashing the messenger dispute the point. You can’t. Girardi is known for being very conservative and believes in resting regulars. A-Rod and Jeter will gets lots of rest this season. And you know it.

  187. DaSaint007 March 8th, 2011 at 12:07 am

    LGY, Tex played in 158 games because the Yankees had no depth to replace him adequately, defensively or offenively. If Swisher spelled him at 1B, Thames would be in RF, and we all know what an adventure that was.

    This season, the potential exists to have Chavez, a GG 3B, spell Arod or Tex. He can still hit, and his defense at 3B is without question. He’ll learn to be adequate or better than average at 1B.

    Jones, a GG OFer can cover for Gardner or Swisher, or Granderson in a pinch. Or, Swisher can play 1B and Jones can play RF.

    So you can rest Tex or ARod more. Depth. It matters.

  188. Jerkface March 8th, 2011 at 12:07 am

    Hilarious. No, I disagree. The only way they get ‘lots of rest’ is if they are injured. Argue that they are going to get injured, not that Girardi is going to give them days off for no reason.

  189. West Coast Yankee Fan March 8th, 2011 at 12:08 am

    Jerkface. I’m curious, do you ever just say, you have a point, I’m wrong? To anyone?

  190. Jerkface March 8th, 2011 at 12:08 am

    What is lots of rest? Lets say INJURY FREE, how many games will A-rod and Jeter play at their defensive positions AND dh?

  191. m March 8th, 2011 at 12:08 am

    :( at Girardi. Keep an open mind at least. Maybe against righties once in a while?

  192. Nick in SF March 8th, 2011 at 12:08 am

    Tar, why the anger?

    Please don’t call me someone’s girlfriend for asking!

  193. Tar March 8th, 2011 at 12:09 am

    “And jerkface why must you mention jeter’s eventual imminent decline so often? Stop obsessing about it”

    M

    It’s a sabre thing. Jeter has always been an anomaly for them. “over rated” and they will show you a hundred stats to prove it. His decline must bring comfort to them.

    Now Brett Gardner is a sabre wet dream waiting to happen. :D

    Now before I get in too much more trouble, good night all.

  194. West Coast Yankee Fan March 8th, 2011 at 12:09 am

    Sometimes I wonder if you ever watch a game. Seriously. If you don’t think A-Rod and Jeter are going to get days off, even when not injured, there is nothing more to say.

  195. LGY March 8th, 2011 at 12:11 am

    “LGY, Tex played in 158 games because the Yankees had no depth to replace him adequately, defensively or offenively. If Swisher spelled him at 1B, Thames would be in RF, and we all know what an adventure that was.”

    ————————–

    Tex has always, throughout his career, played around 158 games a season.

    Players like Cano, Tex, etc. do not take days off. They just don’t.

    It doesn’t even matter that Chavez may be an upgrade to the bench. He is still a million times worse than Teixiera.

    These bountiful off days people are envisioning is not going to happen. No teams does that to everyday players like the Yankees have.

    And if it did, it would be a sh*tshow of complaining on here about what Girardi is thinking sitting Teixiera so much in favor of Chavez or Cano for Nunez.

  196. Jerkface March 8th, 2011 at 12:11 am

    Jeter has never been a sabermetric anomaly. He has been a great hitter for most of his career. ‘Sabermetrics’ only contend that he is not a good shortstop defensively overall, which anyone with eyes can see or ears when they hear Kay say ‘past a diving jeter’ 500 times.

  197. Jerkface March 8th, 2011 at 12:12 am

    Sometimes I wonder if you ever watch a game. Seriously. If you don’t think A-Rod and Jeter are going to get days off, even when not injured, there is nothing more to say.

    They aren’t going to get enough days off to give Nunez appreciable playing time. Nice dodge though, don’t want to answer the question? Not injured, A-rod is going to play 150 games. Jeter as well.

  198. Tar March 8th, 2011 at 12:13 am

    Nick

    Mostly It’s an inside joke. I am smiling, I promise.

  199. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2011 at 12:13 am

    “Too dramatic. Anyway, it could easily be Chavez and Nunez, as has been repeated. Keep the barf bag close and change it often, Chavez could end up being a good contributer.”

    Colorful, maybe.

    Yes, but J’Face and LGY are right. One way or another, Nunez needs AB. And unless they decide that Jeter needs a game off a week, that’s unlikely if he doesn’t fill in at 3B too.

    Sure, Chavez could help, as could Colon/Garcia, but they’re also short-term fixes.

    Next year they will probably be similar fungible veterans.

    At some point, young players need experience at the ML level in order to reach their potential, be it Nunez, Nova, or Banuelos and Betances.

    If they get it, over time, they may be able to give you more than the fungible veterans. In the process, there may be growing pains. bfd, imo.

    I think that’s a smarter way to run a team. I suspect Cash does too, but his owners are part-time GMs.

  200. DaSaint007 March 8th, 2011 at 12:14 am

    GB, don’t know if you’re still there, but what do you know about Steve Garrison?

  201. Jerkface March 8th, 2011 at 12:14 am

    The point: Without injury, Nunez is not going to get very much play time with Chavez on the team.

    Depending on when that injury arrives, Nunez should have been playing a lot to stay sharp. If it happens early, it won’t matter if he was in AAA or not, but if it happens late, and Nunez has 40 PA all year…

  202. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2011 at 12:17 am

    I hope Jeter leads off no matter what.

  203. Jerkface March 8th, 2011 at 12:17 am

    You suck, Rich.

  204. DaSaint007 March 8th, 2011 at 12:18 am

    I hope Gardner gets the opportunity to lead off.

  205. Nick in SF March 8th, 2011 at 12:19 am

    Ok, Tar, keep smiling.

  206. LGY March 8th, 2011 at 12:20 am

    It is also pretty likely that even if Chavez does not get injured he completely sucks and they cut him like Randy Winn.

    Which case Nunez comes up and takes his PT.

    The guy hasn’t been a real major league player since 2007.

  207. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2011 at 12:23 am

    “You suck, Rich.”

    You mean my sarcasm sucks?

  208. Jerkface March 8th, 2011 at 12:25 am

    Ramiro Pena managed to claw his way into 85 games, and only got 167 PA. You can’t go a whole year on 167 PA. He got no time in AAA. Hitting is about timing, keeping your timing, and seeing lots of pitches and taking a lot of swings. To develop, good players need playing time.

    Nunez, with Chavez on the team and no ability to play OF, is not looking at a good opportunity. He will want to be in the majors for the pay check and the chance to hit major league pitching, but in the long run he needs to play.

    And every inning or PA a retread veteran or junk player gets in the year before they are cut or replaced is one less that a guy who has the potential to stick with the organization for a long time gets.

  209. Jerkface March 8th, 2011 at 12:25 am

    You mean my sarcasm sucks?

    I was playing along :x

  210. ron March 8th, 2011 at 12:27 am

    Jeter has 3 years left,his 4th year he could be making only about 8 million & the yankees would have no problem playing jeter less if he is batting .260 with an .300 obp,nor would they have a problem eating a year or two of his salary by playing him less,they have done it before with players making big money.

    Also arods yearly salary decreases to the point where he is only making 21 million,then 20 million in his last few years.

  211. West Coast Yankee Fan March 8th, 2011 at 12:27 am

    LGY March 8th, 2011 at 12:20 am

    It is also pretty likely that even if Chavez does not get injured he completely sucks and they cut him like Randy Winn.

    ************

    Really?

  212. Ys Guy March 8th, 2011 at 12:28 am

    i think girardi does a good job of resting people at the right time. i thought he did an awesome job of coaxing the most out of damon and matsui thier last season here.

  213. Jerkface March 8th, 2011 at 12:30 am

    Its going to take 2-3 months before they cut Chavez if he sucks though.

  214. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2011 at 12:30 am

    The Yankees are not eating Jeter’s contract. He will retire on his won terms. The only issue is what role he will play until he decides to leave.

  215. Jerkface March 8th, 2011 at 12:31 am

    i think girardi does a good job of resting people at the right time.

    I think Girardi is a very good manager in that sense,.

  216. LGY March 8th, 2011 at 12:33 am

    “Really?”

    ————————

    Really.

    Chavez has accumulated 249 PA the past 3 seasons and has a .595 OPS.

    People are getting all excited over a few spring training games (like every year with some players), but he has to prove in the regular season he is a major league baseball player.

    17 at bats in early March prove nothing.

  217. LGY March 8th, 2011 at 12:36 am

    “Its going to take 2-3 months before they cut Chavez if he sucks though.”

    —————–

    True. They didn’t cut Winn until June.

  218. West Coast Yankee Fan March 8th, 2011 at 12:39 am

    Almost everyone here that I have seen commenting positively about Chavez has qualified it by saying “if healthy”.

    I guess you think that when healthy 34 year old six-time gold glovers just forget how to play defense.

  219. m March 8th, 2011 at 12:40 am

    Wait, if Nunez wins the job you want Chavez to suck so badly, that they cut him so Nunez can get a handful more of at-bats? :shock:

  220. Nick in SF March 8th, 2011 at 12:41 am

    “He will retire on his won terms.”

    Agreed! But will it be after #29? #30? #31 would be after a 4-peat, probably… Too greedy? A new dynasty!

  221. LGY March 8th, 2011 at 12:45 am

    “Almost everyone here that I have seen commenting positively about Chavez has qualified it by saying “if healthy”.”

    What about when he has been healthy and put up a .595 OPS? He played games. He didn’t miss entire seasons. When he has played he as been beyond awful the past few years.

    “I guess you think that when healthy 34 year old six-time gold glovers just forget how to play defense.”

    Seriously??? Where do you get this stuff from?

    Please post where I have even commented on his defense.

  222. LGY March 8th, 2011 at 12:46 am

    “Wait, if Nunez wins the job you want Chavez to suck so badly, that they cut him so Nunez can get a handful more of at-bats?”

    —————

    Is this a question to me?

  223. Jerkface March 8th, 2011 at 12:46 am

    Wait, if Nunez wins the job you want Chavez to suck so badly, that they cut him so Nunez can get a handful more of at-bats?

    I don’t know who this is addressed to, but I think Rich wants chavez not to make the team. Any situation where Chavez suks so bad to be cut and is then replaced by Nunez is inferior to a situation where Nunez gets the job outright.

    We have guys like Golson and Nunez who don’t have unlimited options and will need to start sticking on the 25 man.

  224. m March 8th, 2011 at 12:51 am

    I actually was directing it at JF. I thought he was a Nunez for the job guy. But reading what he’s writing tonight he seems to favor more PT for Nunez. PT that he won’t be able to get in the majors.

    Or he could just be being a contrarian for the sake of being a contrarian. :P

  225. Jerkface March 8th, 2011 at 12:58 am

    I don’t have a pony in this race, I’m just arguing the logical points.

  226. jacksquat March 8th, 2011 at 12:59 am

    I think Jeter will be getting regular time off this year, maybe once per week or so. And I think they want to give Cano some more games off as well, although not as much as Jeter. I like Chavez to cover 3B/1B and Nunez for SS/2B. Nunez would also be the only real pinch runner on the bench, and I think he’s a better base stealer than Pena.

  227. Jerkface March 8th, 2011 at 1:00 am

    I am for Nunez as backup, but I don’t think he will get a lot of PA and I don’t know how that will affect his growth. In the end I’m mostly for the Yankees to win a WS, through any means necessary, and I don’t love Nunez enough to really worry about the Yankees squashing his career to make that happen.

    if I thought the Yankees would only play Jeter in 120 games, I’d be way for Nunez making the team. They aren’t, so in the end it probably doesn’t matter and Nunez will get traded or something.

  228. m March 8th, 2011 at 1:05 am

    Nunez is stuck behind a first-ballot hall of famer. He’s bound to be stunted. I think he’s coming into his own and has grabbed the Yankees attention, unlike the past.

    I feel that hanging out with Jeter, Alex, Ribi, Girardi, and Long will help his development far more than being in Scranton.

  229. Jerkface March 8th, 2011 at 1:07 am

    I feel that hanging out with Jeter, Alex, Ribi, Girardi, and Long will help his development far more than being in Scranton.

    I dunno about that. I argue that for Montero because the Yankees have specifically stated he will get play time. I think it cannot hurt, and at best it will help a lot a you said, but as a hitter and a defender he still needs to play. No one really gets better by not playing.

  230. m March 8th, 2011 at 1:07 am

    Robi! He’s not too ribby anymore.

  231. m March 8th, 2011 at 1:10 am

    Okay, so how long does he stay in Scranton? Jeter’s not going anywhere soon.

    Can we agree that Nunez is more developed all around? Won’t Pena benefit from more PT?

  232. Jerkface March 8th, 2011 at 1:16 am

    Okay, so how long does he stay in Scranton? Jeter’s not going anywhere soon.

    Can we agree that Nunez is more developed all around? Won’t Pena benefit from more PT?

    Pena doesn’t need to benefit from more PT, he isn’t a good piece going forward. He would benefit more I think, as Nunez is a much better player *right now*, but Pena is pretty much capped out. He isn’t getting any better offensively or any stronger. He should be the guy the yankees wring dry and then throw away.

    Nunez actually has trade value and major league playing time value going forward. He needs to be in the position where he could help the club. This could be through a trade, and in that case having him in the majors might be helpful because if he puts up a good slash line in limited playing time it increases his stock, gets more scouts on him.

    On the other hand, if the yankees want him to be able to take over in case of injury, he really does need consistent work. He only got 50 PA in 30 games last year. I think he should get 300 PA.

  233. Nick in SF March 8th, 2011 at 1:17 am

    M, I thought you predicted a few nights ago that Pena would get the call due to the organization loving him or something (mascot-ishness?). Now are you switching to Team Nunez?

  234. m March 8th, 2011 at 1:23 am

    Mr. Nick,

    I thought that because they were pretty close. One had a better glove, the other a better bat. So the tie breaker was Pena’s pet-ability

    But if Nunez can show he can, you know, be a better than we expected hitter, then that’s something the Yankees must take into consideration. I usually like all my Yankees. But I did not look forward to Pena’s ugly at-bats.

  235. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2011 at 1:29 am

    Nunez may be behind a first-ballot HoF, but the HoF production may well be in the rear view mirror. So should Nunez be compared to what was or what is?

  236. m March 8th, 2011 at 1:30 am

    Okay, peoples. Going to sleep off this cold. G’night.

  237. m March 8th, 2011 at 1:34 am

    Doesn’t matter he’s Derek Jeter. Meritocracy does not apply here. And those who rant about Jeter (not you, Rich) choose to wallow in it.

    Accept it, and forget about it. That’s my free advice :)

  238. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2011 at 1:44 am

    m

    There almost certainly has to be a point where the balance between legacy and meritocratic considerations starts to tip in the direction of the latter.

    Bernie Williams, although he has never been held in quite the same degree of esteem (even though his contributions the ALDS and ALCS were indispensable), was eventually confronted with that reality.

    I have had to accept much harsher and more immutable facts than what happens to any Yankee player.

    Nonetheless, I think my initial point still stands.

  239. Jerkface March 8th, 2011 at 1:44 am

    If you wallow in Jeter you end up smelling pretty Driven.

  240. Cashmoney March 8th, 2011 at 1:49 am

    Nunez can prolly over for Jeter now and Yanks won’t lose much. More resources wasted on overprice veteran.

  241. Cashmoney March 8th, 2011 at 1:53 am

    Chavez will get hurt ant this is will all be moot.

  242. UnKnown March 8th, 2011 at 2:00 am

    Thanks to the Heat it has been proven once again how unpredictable sports can be.

    Sux fans would be wise to take note.

  243. Nick in SF March 8th, 2011 at 2:05 am

    Sux fans will be #crying?

  244. Cashmoney March 8th, 2011 at 2:11 am

    I haven’t follow basketball for sometimes, what happen to the Heat unknown? did they lose their championship in march already?

  245. Doreen March 8th, 2011 at 5:55 am

    Good morning, morning people.

    :)

    Sorry for the late start, but

    GTLU is Now Open for Business.

    I will be accepting lineups until 8:30 this morning.

    Good luck!

    :)

  246. Your Worst Nightmare March 8th, 2011 at 6:01 am

    From reading this thread I guess Girardi will be doing a 180 this year and playing all the regulars everyday, expect them all to play 155 plus games. Yeah sure thing.

  247. Doreen March 8th, 2011 at 6:30 am

    I thought Girardi, when he was interviewed during the game about Nunez, seemed awfully intrigued by him and was already a few steps ahead in his thinking, mentioning that Cano could have benefitted from a few more days off last season. I think Jeter gets more regular rest, whether he prefers it or not, and ARod definitely continues to get regular rest.

    The better your bench players are, the less hesitant you are to use them.

    The thing is, it’s great that the Yankees have some good options here.

  248. 108 stitches March 8th, 2011 at 6:44 am

    Ramiro Pena still has an option. Give him time at AAA to see if he could learn to hit.
    Cashman has turned down 2 deals that included Nunez. He’ll have to play his way out of making the roster as will Chavez.
    Girardi likes to give players occasional rest including Jorge against certain pitchers. Both Alex and Chavez will see times at DH as will Andruw Jones.
    With the Yankees holding a late sizeable lead, out goes Alex and Jeter or sometimes Teixeira. Both Nunez and Chavez give the needed flexability and won’t go long without at bats. Nice insurance with Laird and Golson at AAA.

  249. CMCYankeesVA March 8th, 2011 at 6:54 am

    I believe this game was on TV. I’m not sure people in the New York area get this channel. For people that live in the VA/DC/MD area, it was on MASN, a Baltimore sports channel

  250. upstate kate March 8th, 2011 at 7:01 am

    Hi Doreen
    I will play altho I have no idea, especially after the 2 games yesterday.
    I will go w/ the game 1 line up:

    LF GGBG
    C Martin
    RF Swish
    CF Grandy
    DH Po
    1B Chavez
    3B Vazquez
    SS Nunez
    2B Pena

    thanks

  251. Doreen March 8th, 2011 at 7:07 am

    Thanks, Kate.

  252. DaSaint007 March 8th, 2011 at 7:27 am

    Doreen March 8th, 2011 at 6:30 am
    I thought Girardi, when he was interviewed during the game about Nunez, seemed awfully intrigued by him and was already a few steps ahead in his thinking, mentioning that Cano could have benefitted from a few more days off last season. I think Jeter gets more regular rest, whether he prefers it or not, and ARod definitely continues to get regular rest.

    The better your bench players are, the less hesitant you are to use them.

    The thing is, it’s great that the Yankees have some good options here
    ——————————————–

    Absolutely rightDoreen, and essentially what I said at 11:20pm and 12:03am.

  253. Doreen March 8th, 2011 at 7:32 am

    DaSaint007

    I saw your comment, and I agree with it. :)

  254. blake March 8th, 2011 at 7:42 am

    Nunez is going to be the guy who fills in if for Jeter or Cano if there is an injury…not Pena. What they have to decide is if they can.get Nunez enough ABs to both keep him sharp and further his development……if they can’t then he’s better off playing every day at SWB to keep him ready in case of significant injury and also to keep his trade value up. Nunez is clearly a better player than Pena but Pena may fit the role better.

  255. rl15 March 8th, 2011 at 7:51 am

    Doreen,

    I’m back for year 2.

    LF GGBG
    C Martin
    RF Swish
    CF Granderson
    DH Jorgie
    3B Chavez
    1B Vazquez
    2B Nunez
    SS Pena

    Thanks again

  256. Doreen March 8th, 2011 at 7:55 am

    rl15 -

    Gotcha. Like what you did there. :)

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