Next up: The Class of 2007
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 08, 2011 
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Six players from the Yankees 2006 draft class have already played in New York. Four others have been included in trades for Major League talent, another was taken in the Rule 5 draft, and another is currently one of the top prospects in the system. It’s been a fruitful draft for the Yankees, with Joba Chamberlain and Dave Robertson having already established themselves as mainstays on the roster.
By comparison, the group taken just one year later has been very quiet.
No one from the Yankees 2007 draft class has played in the big leagues, but that might be about to change. Six members of the ’07 class are in big league camp with the Yankees, and three — Andrew Brackman, Austin Romine and Brandon Laird — have put themselves among the top prospects in the organization.
“Some days (making it to the big leagues) feels a lot closer than other days,” Romine said. “You get tastes here and there of what it could be, and it makes you play even harder. Then there are other days when it seems it’s way out of reach.”
Half of the Yankees top ten picks in 2007 have been slowed by injuries, and the fifth and sixth rounders — Adam Olbrychowski and Chase Weems — have been traded away.
Brackman, though, took a huge step forward last season, and he’s begun to look like a legitimate first-round choice again. Romine has shown considerable talent as second rounder, third-round pick Ryan Pope put himself on the map with a move to the bullpen, and fourth-round pick Bradley Suttle is finally healthy and able to hit again. Laird is one of the more pleasant surprises in the entire system as a 27th-round pick who’s played his way to the verge of the big leagues.
“We came up playing together, so we all want each other to succeed,” Pope said. “For the most part there’s been a large core of us, (mostly) college guys, that have stuck together coming up. I think it’s important to keep a class like that together because, once you get to the big leagues, hopefully you guys have already been together three or four years and know how to play together. I think it works its way through, kind of like Mo and Pettitte and Jeter and them, kind of a core group of people.”
Of course, every draft class — fair or not — seems to be defined by its first rounder. For the 2007 class, that means Brackman.
“I didn’t talk to him a whole lot until he got to Double-A,” Pope said. “But if you’re talking about a first pick that’s going to define (class), he’s a pretty good one to follow because of his work ethic, his determination to succeed. He’s definitely a guy who’s going to set a standard for the class.”
Associated Press photo of Romine, headshots of Brackman and Pope
This is why draft picks matter even to the deep-pocketed Yankees, and surrendering a #1 pick for what could be a one year rental of Soriano was not cost-free beyond the contract.
The FL lawsuit v. Hendricks/Fernandez says Yankees made “offer to Chapman valued at more than $54 million” Chap signed 6yr/$30.25 mil w Reds
wow
Chad, do you get a vote on the James P. Dawson Award and, who would be your pick so far?
Miami heading to the locker room for a good cry.
Face,
I don’t know what the lawsuit is about so I have no idea why it would be there.
It may not even be there, considering she took it off her page minutes later.
I found this:
http://www.sportsagentblog.com.....a-big-mess.
If Soriano opts out this year and there is no change in compensation rules, they haven’t lost anything. In fact, they’d gain an extra top pick.
IF that happens, I’ll revise my comment. Until then, my comment stands.
unless they sign another Type-A
Also draft pick compensation especially for relievers is probably going away
And let’s not overlook that this is supposed to be a very deep draft.
And that opt out requires the Yankees to then offer him arbitration and then another team to sign him, and the market is flooded with closers
Why would Soriano opt out?
Why did Boras want the opt out?
Then the Yankees don’t lose anything. They have a closer to replace Rivera in year 3. I’m not doing to worry about a pick over a deeper pen and Rivera insurance.
Rich in NJ….You might wait until after the World Series and then revise your stance……Soriano’s value lies in this area……By the time that draft pick is ready to make it to The Bronx more than 1/2 the roster could be retired…..
Bron won over 60 games past 2 years in CLE.
Heat can only lose two more times before making it impossible for. Them to reach 60
In case Mariano retires or they get rid of draft pick comp IMO
Pat
Draft picks compensation is a two-way street. But for Pettitte’s departure, Phil Hughes isn’t a Yankee. I think he was worth waiting for, don’t you?
They have a closer to replace Rivera in year 3
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He won’t be on the team in year 3 unless he injures himself.
That tweet was a mistake I’m sure. We didn’t go after Chapman.
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The Yankees absolutely went after Chapman, famously hosting him during the ALCS. Cashman said he was hard at work and had no time to enjoy the playoffs because his job never stops.
They were on him all the way up until he signed with the Reds.
Where’s Neidermeyer ? ?
The FL lawsuit v. Hendricks/Fernandez says Yankees made “offer to Chapman valued at more than $54 million” Chap signed 6yr/$30.25 mil w Reds
about 2 hours ago via web
Retweeted by 9 people
Just copied ^^ from her Twitter page so it wasn’t deleted
Rich in NJ……Checkmate
Is Sori going to be healthy come playoff time?
pat,
http://twitter.com/MelissaSeguraSI
I am not seeing it there.
Nice post, but I wish we didn’t have to keep seeing that Mark Zuckerberg lookalike Brackman photo..it creeps me out a tad.
And
GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
Then the Yankees don’t lose anything. They have a closer to replace Rivera in year 3. I’m not doing to worry about a pick over a deeper pen and Rivera insurance.
Indeed, a healthy Soriano.
I meant to say *a draft pick is well worth a healthy Soriano.
Revision.
Heat can only lose 1 game rest of the season to reach 60 wins.
Need to go 18-0 to match how many LeBron won with the Cavs last year.
Rich in NJ says:
Draft picks compensation is a two-way street. But for Pettitte’s departure, Phil Hughes isn’t a Yankee. I think he was worth waiting for, don’t you?
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I never looked at it like that. I wonder what people would be saying about him if he ended up on another team? I’m glad it worked out that we got Phil.
Did Red Holzman teach Phil that?
“This is the NBA, No Boys Allowed,” Jackson said. “Big boys don’t cry. But, if you’re going to do it, do it in the toilet where no one can see.”
Nah, not buying it. Maybe to push up his price a bit but if the Yankees really wanted Chapman they would have got him.
Nah, not buying it. Maybe to push up his price a bit but if the Yankees really wanted Chapman they would have got him.
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Why would the Yankees push up the price for an international free agent? They went after Chapman, it doesn’t mean they pursued him the hardest, or valued him at the price he cost. You can’t say they did not, because all signs point to the contrary.
The Yankees obviously weren’t in on Cliff Lee then, by your logic.
GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
One thing that gets overlooked with Brackman is his fielding and pickoffs. He has a lot of throwing errors on pick-off throws and fielding errors, and not just the pick-offs that are honest attemps…the ones that are just “show-mes”, although he did clean that up last year. Still makes it too interesting on his throws.
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I understand that Betances has the same problem, as well as fielding bunts and throws to first and second.
Cashman hosted Chapman during the playoffs just to push up his price?
Pretty strange time to be playing games with an international free agent.
Carl March 8th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
The FL lawsuit v. Hendricks/Fernandez says Yankees made “offer to Chapman valued at more than $54 million” Chap signed 6yr/$30.25 mil w Reds
wow
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Sounds like Chapmen is trying to prove that the agents didn’t tell him about an offer and therefore were negligent, and don’t deserve any compensation. Will be interesting to see. I do recall JF’s point about the team hosting him and entertaining him.
“Sounds like Chapmen is trying to prove that the agents didn’t tell him about an offer and therefore were negligent, and don’t deserve any compensation.”
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Chapman is not suing.
The dispute is between Hendricks and API.
LGY March 8th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
“Sounds like Chapmen is trying to prove that the agents didn’t tell him about an offer and therefore were negligent, and don’t deserve any compensation.”
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Chapman is not suing.
The dispute is between Hendricks and API.
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Thanks–but it still sounds like someone is trying to prove negligence..is that correct? (I haven’t read the suit.)
Cashman’s plan to drain the Reds of all monies has been exposed???
Who talked????
“Thanks–but it still sounds like someone is trying to prove negligence..is that correct? (I haven’t read the suit.)”
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The claim is that Hendricks tortiously interfered with API’s representation of Chapman, before Chapman bolted from API to Hendricks.
LGY March 8th, 2011 at 10:50 pm
“Thanks–but it still sounds like someone is trying to prove negligence..is that correct? (I haven’t read the suit.)”
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The claim is that Hendricks tortiously interfered with API’s representation of Chapman, before Chapman bolted from API to Hendricks.
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Have you a link to the details? What is the point being pursued by the Yankee info?
Bojo,
Just the link Rich provided.
The Yankee info in this is iffy at best. The tweet has been deleted and logically it makes very little sense that the offer was made.
Wait. Now I am seeing the tweet again. Maybe it is a problem with my computer.
Is everyone else seeing the tweet on her page?
Why was the link deleted?
The Cliff Lee situation has nothing to do with Chapman’s. Of course the Yankees made a courtesy effort, but that was it. Again, if they really wanted him I think they would have gotten him. That’s just my opinion. The Yankees have a pretty good track record of getting players they want. That’s why everyone assumed Lee would come here – and why it was such a shock when he didn’t.
I see her tweet, its there.
The final clue was the tweet that didn’t delete.
BloggingBombers Mark Feinsand
Bernie Williams will be at tomorrow night’s game – wearing his No. 51 – at GMS Field.
The Yankees’ Offer To Aroldis Chapman
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [March 8 at 10:01pm CST – Via MLBTR
The Yankees really liked Aroldis Chapman. A Florida lawsuit against the left-hander’s representatives claims that the Yankees made an “offer to Chapman valued at more than $54MM,” according to Melissa Segura of SI.com (on Twitter, hat tip to River Ave. Blues).
Chapman, who accepted a six-year, $30.25MM deal from Cincinnati must have really liked the Reds to accept $24MM less from them. The 23-year-old Cuban struck out 19 of the 51 batters he faced in his cameo for the NL Central Champions last year. He posted a 3.57 ERA with 11.8 K/9 and 4.9 BB/9 in 95 2/3 innings at Triple-A before his callup.
The Yankees have a history of bidding on and signing top Cuban pitchers. They signed Orlando Hernandez in 1998 and pried Jose Contreras away from the Red Sox and others in 2003.
When will Bernie accept that he can’t play anymore?
Blue Jays Appear Interested In Kevin Slowey
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [March 8 at 7:48pm CST]
The Blue Jays like Kevin Slowey, according to Joe Christensen of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune (on Twitter). Christensen hears that the Blue Jays have relievers to spare and had three scouts watching Slowey pitch in a ‘B’ game against the Pirates this morning. The right-hander logged three innings without allowing a hit or a run, striking out three.
ESPN.com’s Buster Olney reported on Sunday that the Twins are “very much willing” to discuss trading Slowey. The Blue Jays are not desperate for pitching help; Jo-Jo Reyes, Jesse Litsch, Marc Rzepczynski and Kyle Drabek are battling for two rotation spots and Zach Stewart, Brad Mills and Scott Richmond are also in the mix for jobs.
Toronto does have lots of relief depth, particularly from the right side. Frank Francisco, Octavio Dotel, Jon Rauch and Jason Frasor all have closing experience and Shawn Camp and Casey Janssen are coming off of strong seasons. Throw in two more right-handers, Carlos Villanueva and Josh Roenicke, and it’s easy to see why teams might ask the Blue Jays about potentially available arms.
Slowey posted a 4.45 ERA with 6.7 K/9 and 1.7 BB/9 in 155 2/3 innings last year. The 26-year-old has never posted a walk rate above 1.7 per nine or a strikeout rate above 6.7 per nine in four big league seasons. He’ll earn $2.7MM this year and is under team control through 2013.
The Cliff Lee situation has nothing to do with Chapman’s. Of course the Yankees made a courtesy effort, but that was it. Again, if they really wanted him I think they would have gotten him. That’s just my opinion. The Yankees have a pretty good track record of getting players they want. That’s why everyone assumed Lee would come here – and why it was such a shock when he didn’t.
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Actually it has everything to do with what you are suggesting, which is that the Yankees get everyone they want and if they don’t get the player they weren’t interested. If it is just your opinion that the Yankees did not go after Chapman, then fine, but you are posting like its a fact when everything points to the opposite. The yankees would have signed Chapman if the price was right on him and no one else was willing to bid higher. They obviously wanted Daisuke Matsuzaka and got out bid by 2 teams, sometimes it isn’t just about who the Yankees want. They clearly weren’t willing to bid whatever it took to sign chapman, but they were very interested and actively pursuing him. They also pursued Greg Maddux and Barry Bonds and didn’t land either of those players, so its not a huge shock.
Who Could Be Released This Month?
By Tim Dierkes [March 8 at 1:44pm CST]
With certain contracts, there comes a time when a team would prefer to pay the player to go away and free up a roster spot. For example, two years ago the Tigers ate $14MM in releasing Gary Sheffield and the Phillies assumed $8MM to let Geoff Jenkins go. Here’s a look at some big money players who I think stand a chance of being cut this month.
•Oliver Perez, Mets: one year, $12MM. A team insider told ESPN’s Adam Rubin three days ago that Perez is highly likely to be released. Today Perez allowed three runs in the first inning of a split-squad game and followed that with a couple of scoreless frames.
•Luis Castillo, Mets: one year, $6MM. Rubin wrote that Castillo “appears destined for the same fate” as Perez, despite the team’s unsettled second base situation.
•Carlos Silva, Cubs: one year, $13.5MM. The Cubs are only on the hook for $8MM to Silva this year, as they’re receiving $5.5MM from Seattle. The Cubs’ last two rotation spots are too early to call, but if Silva continues to pitch poorly in his next few outings and isn’t amenable to long relief, the Cubs might have to let him go.
•Armando Galarraga, Diamondbacks: one year, $2.3MM. The D’Backs would only be on the hook for roughly $380K if they release Galarraga by the 15th, whereas Zach Duke’s salary is guaranteed. If Aaron Heilman or Barry Enright makes the rotation, Galarraga or Duke would have to slide to the bullpen or be released.
•Barry Zito, Giants: three years, $64.5MM. Most teams would be thrilled with a low 4.00s ERA from their fifth starter, so the idea of releasing Zito was strange from the start.
•Aaron Rowand, Giants: two years, $24MM. The Giants have a crowded outfield, and cutting Rowand makes sense. They’ve also got Nate Schierholtz, who is out of options.
•Milton Bradley, Mariners: one year, $12MM. Bradley’s legal issues aside, Spring Training seems to be going well enough for him. He’s even playing center field today. This one is hard to call right now.
•Danys Baez, Phillies: one year, $2.75MM. Baez had a rough first year for the Phillies, but he can probably squeeze his way onto the Opening Day roster.
•Ryan Doumit, Pirates: one year, $5.6MM. Doumit isn’t generating much trade interest, but releasing him would be a last resort and probably won’t be necessary prior to Opening Day.
Come on Jerkface Maddux did not want to play in New York.
Come on Jerkface Maddux did not want to play in New York.
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But the Yankees wanted him, wanted him enough to pay 5+ million more than the next team. Who cares what Maddux wants when its the Yankees who decide if the player signs or not?
Ah, I think I understand now.
This is not the API v. Hendricks suit. That was settled last year.
This suit was filed by Carlos Thompson, who was a friend of Chapman in Cuba and claims he had a contract with him.
He is suing Chapman in Massachusetts and is suing Hendricks in Florida.
In the Florida case, Thompson is claiming that the Yankees offered more than $54 million, but Hendricks said in response that Thompson offered no proof of this offer.
I think this is what the story is.
Ways in which the Yankees, who publicly expressed interest in Chapman, could not end up signing him:
- They don’t want to give him a major league deal
- They valued him at less than his final price
- Chapman did not want to play for the Yankees because their pitch to him didn’t include making the majors in the first year
- They never got a chance to make a counter offer
Only seeing Charlie Sheen rant footage now. He looks emaciated. And making the NYY pullover look bad.
There’s talk that they might recast his character. Any thoughts on who could make it work?
Also, Chapman’s bling was cruelly disrespected on the LoHud Yankee Blog.
Just a thought on future closers for Yanks. MO has not only been successful because of talent, but also because of his mindset. He is completely confident of doing his job. Not sure when that came about, but he’s had it for a long time, for sure.
IMO, Brackman , who certainly is starting to get it together after his surgery could possibly come on either as a starter or as a closer maybe with his much improved pitching.
Will be glad to see Soriano’s pitching unfold this year in N. Y. After this year, who knows ?
I still think Joba could end up being the closer one day.
Rich in NJ March 8th, 2011 at 11:50 pm
I still think Joba could end up being the closer one day.
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I thought so too, at one time. Not so much anymore. I don’t think he’ll ever have a “Mo” head on his shoulders. JMO
I don’t think there will ever be another Mo, at least not for another 25 years or so.
We’re just going have to “settle” for some very good closers, none of whom last for more than five years or so.
When I hear all the talk about a closer I only think of myself and ” Who will be the last porn star tonight to ride the buck Chuck ? ” As far as Joba goes maybe, just maybe he can have some of my leftovers.
WINNING IS EVERYTHING ! !
‘Any thoughts on who could make it work ?’
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Me and only me ! WINNING IS EVERYTHING ! ! !
Hooray an unfunny gimmick poster!
Stuff it clown, you ain’t in my league and never will be.
WINNING IS EVERYTHING ! ! !
Winning is nothing, gotta DOMINATE.
#Dominate is the new #winning
Same guy has been appearing on the Daily News for the last few days. Only a few posters here post on both sites. Any guesses as to who might be using a fake account?
Good night night people.
I could tell from the unfunniness of it.
Nite, nite Bojo Neidermeyer.
No need to dominate anything when ya got em all lined up. Of course you wouldn’t have a clue.
WINNING ! !
Where does one find the time to be three times as unfunny as normal?
….an all-night discussion about the lawsuit between 2 agents of a player who isnt a yankee…
real games can’t start soon enough…!
Y’s-
Don’t forget all that great Sheen talk.
The National Enquirer has nothing on the LoHud.
Good morning, morning people.
I think Joe from Long Island hit the nail on the head last night when he talked about the 4 hopefuls going for the #4 and #5 slots, and how the difference maker will be how they get through the lineup a second (and third) time around, and as ST advances, facing the ML hitters more often. Joe Girardi also had good perspective, when he said these things usually sort themselves out.
It is great that so far all four candidates have pitched well, and I especially like the scarcity of walks that they have given up. The longer it goes on like this, the tougher the decision will be, but also, the likeliness of having two really good pitchers in those final two spots becomes greater. Could you imagine if you were trying to pick from a bunch that was pitching poorly or inconsistently?
So, while it’s too early to be overly excited, it’s still appropriate to be happily encouraged.
(And I do think Mitre is the long man/swing guy, no matter how well he does. He just is very useful and fairly successful in that role, and it’s not an easy one to fill.)
Doreen-
Good morning.
I agree with you.
Things will sort themselves out.
Just like they would have with the Catching situation.
Is anyone else as excited about Banuelos as I am ?
Brackman and Betances both have big arms but they still need polish, and at this point are more throwers than Pitchers IMO.
Banuelos is like a prodigy on the mound.
Stuff is great.
Mixes his pitches with outstanding command.
Smooth as silk and oh so poised.
Were it not for innings limitations I think he’d be in the Majors right now.
What a talent.
good morning early birds!!
I am not getting to attached to any particular scenario, it is nice that there are so many options at this point for both pitching and catching.
Altho I still want to eventually see Montero as catcher w/ Cervelli as back up…guess that will have to wait until next year.
The other guy who’s got me riveted to the screen is Montero.
I knew about the bat.
It’s his Catching that has my attention.
He’s gonna be way better than just adequate IMO.
What a package.
Banuelos and him are Crown Jewels.
We’re incredibly lucky to have them.
Good morning everyone.
I think that Nova and Garcia have the 4 and 5 spots locked up and it’s theirs to loose.
Also expect Mitre to be the long guy out of the bullpen.
upstate kate -
I’m with you – not tied to any particular scenario at all.
I like that there are options.
I wish Cervelli hadn’t gotten hurt. But I would like to see Romine play a bit more, just to get a better look at him.
One other reason not to get too attached to any of the young hopefuls is that there are too many of them to keep long term and there certainly are trades looming (not imminent, mind you, just out there somewhere).
MTU -
Althiugh the youngest of the “B’s” Manny, IMO, has the greatest talent. I look for him to be in the rotation in 2012, without question.
Fran -
Great minds think alike.
I have enjoyed watching the ST games, so I can see all these young guys that are talked about so frequently. That Brackman is a tall drink of water.
this is the vision cashman had when he passed on guys like duchscherer, millwood, etc. all winter. barring injuries, he will let colon go, we have the arms we need in the system to fill the back of the rotation and whatever bullpen and spot-starter help we will need and cashman thought so all winter while everyone was panicking.
Al-
He has what it takes to be a successful pitcher right now.
I would love to see him perfect his curve, add a cut FB and a sinker.
He’d have more ways to get you out than Willie Sutton had to rob banks.
The CU to kill the right-handed batters.
The cutter to use against lefties.
And the sinker to extricate him from runners on situations where a DP might be needed.
That 93-95 heat doesn’t hurt either.
Have you noticed that as the team comes together, and is looking much better than some had thought possible, the naysayers are getting be be fewer, and further away.
I like this team, and the potential has much upside with the farm system backing them up.
i know my limitations. thats why even though i would bat cano 3rd, tex 5th, etc, etc etc, i accept that im a chef sitting in NJ watching games on tv and reading the sports section, while joe g., brian cashman and co. are there in the park, in the dugout, in the clubhouse or wherever and know what to do.
i trust our baseball braintrust quite a bit more than i trust myself when it comes to baseball (if girardi wants my cajun cream chicken recipe he can ask.)
yeah al, where IS randy?
Y’s Guy -
It’s why Cashman could confidently and calmy say that plan B was “patience.”
I wonder if they will bring Manny up at the end of the season to come out of the bullpen, as what was done w/ Joba , and what the Rays did w/ Price.
MTU -
Manny has the talant now, but, he needs to get his innings in MiLB before starting a long season. Give him this year to get stretched out properly. We might see him up for a couple games later in the season.
Big Al -
And it’s not just P & C depth; they’ve got some role players, too. Not superstar calibre, but good enough to come up and fill in.
can we ask for your cajun cream chicken recipe too?
kate, brackman said when stands next to betances, he can see the top of his head.
betances is 6′ 8″!
Doreen-
Patient Yankee fans = an oxymoron.
Ys Guy -
He’s busy helping the Twins get ready for the season. With all the great pitching they have, they needed Randy to help sort them out.
Too bad the Yankees don’t have any young pitching, under team control for a number of years to come, LMAO.
Al-
Agreed. Manny just needs a little more time to gain further arm strength.
I’m not interested in rushing him though I am very much looking forward to seeing what he can do.
Have you noticed that as the team comes together, and is looking much better than some had thought
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Hi Big Al,
Great minds do think alike
This is why you can’t go by what the team looks like on paper. You need to see them out on the field.
Doreen -
Plan “B” was the “Killer B’s”.
MTU -
I’m a Yankees fan, I do not do Oxy, and I’m not a moron, so just stop that talk about us.
saute minced garlic in butter in a cast iron skillet at med-hi heat. dredge chicken thighs in cajun spice mix (i make my own but Prudhomme’s is good) and place in the skillet on top of the garlic skin side down. saute over med heat for about 20 minutes. pour in about a cup and a half of heavy cream, and allow that to reduce for about 10-15 minutes and finish with some green onions. serve over dirty rice (no way you get THAT recipe out of me).
Al-
I hope Manny can tear apart hitters the way you tore apart that word.
MTU -
When the think of the pitching and catching in the pipeline, plus other good role players available, this team will need to be looking outside less and less for talant. My bet is Cashman will be getting quite a few calls from teams with needs, rather than the other way around.
What will all the Cashman haters do when this team succeeds? Best we rope off all the tall buildings.
MTU -
At my age, that’s about all I can do.
Good morning morning people! Today is sports day so it feels good to be able to get out of the dressy clothes and into jeans and a Yankees shirt.
I too feel that things will shake out later in the month and we will start to see a clearer picture of who will be a better fit for the 4 and 5 spots. So far they’ve only pitched 5 innings each and once through the lineup at most.
I’m going to try to make it to the game tonight. I have to work at 630 tomorrow so I might not stay the whole time but I just really want to go tonight, maybe if I go tonight then I won’t be as anxious about going this weekend. A little baseball to hold me over the rest of the week.
GB7 is lurking out there somewhere, my spelling is going to pot.
Al-
Optimism does not come naturally to everyone I guess.
“What will all the Cashman haters do when this team succeeds?”
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they will do what randy did. he zipped his lip for a year after they won the WS, and waited till this winter to tear into casman again. then when ST started showing cashman to be right, he went golfing.
thanks Ys Guy, that sounds yummy
tyanksfan36 -
I already gave the #4 spot to Nova, and the #5 slot goes to Freddy.
Let’s play ball, the Yankees are ready, and I’m way past ready.
MTU,
I agree with you. Banuelos looks ready now to me aside from the innings. The delivery is there, the stuff is there, and the command of 3 pitches is there. Betances and Brackman do likely need more refinement in addition to innings….which isn’t unusual given their height. Both have the stuff though, they just need to repeat their deliveries a little better…..its been a great spring so far, lots of interesting young players.
Ys Guy -
Just because you heard Randy was banging his balls all over the course, does not mean he was playing golf.
BIG AL March 9th, 2011 at 7:18 am
MTU -
When the think of the pitching and catching in the pipeline, plus other good role players available, this team will need to be looking outside less and less for talant. My bet is Cashman will be getting quite a few calls from teams with needs, rather than the other way around.
What will all the Cashman haters do when this team succeeds? Best we rope off all the tall buildings.
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When other teams come looking for some of this young talent Cashman can charge the reverse Yankee tax.
I’m sure he has a good memory of those who were overcharging.
blake -
I don’t know if you saw my post the other day, I gave you big congrats on the UNC victory, they earned it!
tyyanksfan36
We’re definitely going to the game on April 8th. We’re going to spend the day in Tampa and then the game.
MTU -
Would you like to be a fly on the wall if Jack Z called Cash looking to make a deal?
al, few people have ever ‘explored’ a golf course the way i do…
AL,
I didn’t but thanks. They played really well….I will be interested to see what happens if they meet again on a neutral court in the tourney…
Blake-
Agreed. Great spring.
Personally, I like Banuelos the best of the three.
He’s a prodigy IMO.
Big Al
That’s who I have as my frontrunners right now for the spots, I still think its too early but I think if the season started tonight, that’s how it would go.
tix available for the april 7th day game vs. minny on sale at stubhub for $9 each! (section 419 row 8) , but i have tickets for the phils v mets in cbp that day. (i paid $22/tix for that one.
Doreen
That’s awesome. When it gets closer ill have to send you my email and let you know where my seats are before the game. This month can not go by fast enough. I’m ready for full time baseball.
that was row 8
MTU,
a cutter for lefties has become such a weapon against RH hitters…..I think that would round out his arsenal perfectly. That’s probably down the road though….just need to get his innings and get him to the big leagues first.
Al-
Oh yeah. The Z man’s got it coming.
We’re lucky he’s an idiot and turned down Jesus.
Ys Guy -
I don’t play golf, but, I would enjoy riding around the course in one of those golf carts. A nice ride around some of the more beautiful courses would be fun. I want my cart to have air horns, just to rattle the guys as they start their back swing.
blake -
UNC is peeking at the right time, and considering how the first 10 games went, they have really turned it on. My 2 favorite teams, Duke and UNC. I have a great deal of respect for both programs and coaches.
my golf theory is to get in as may swings for the money as possible! also to check out the wooded areas on the sides of the holes, very under-used and shady!
Peaking ………….. not peeking, dah
Blake-
He has a few things to continue to work on.
Things he can refine to make him even more deadly.
Most of all he just needs to eat some innings and stay healthy.
He is already very advanced as a pitcher. Super smooth.
For me he is untouchable.
Ys Guy -
I’d bring a nice picnic basket along, and you’re right, a great place to kick back under the shade of those trees. I guess that’s why they put them there. If they ever saw me coming on a golf course, they’d shoot first and ask questions later.
Al-
I like golf.
The Golf of Mexico in Winter.
if he’s major league ready, he should be in the major leagues. the innings limit isnt a problem till august.
i’m not a pitching coach, so i dont know but he hasn’t won a game above a-ball to this point, so i’m guessing he’s not major-league ready.
but people on here keep saying that innings limits are the only think keeping him out of the majors and that is ridiculous.
MTU -
To many bad people down there on the Mexican side of the Gulf.
We could right an ad for them, come play golf on the gulf. We supply AK47′s to carry in your golf bag, should a drug gang want more than to play through.
Al-
Got a book for you to read.
“The great reckoning” by davidson.
I think you’ll find it to your liking.
Please check it out if you get a chance.
Ys Guy -
Manny has the tools, but, he needs innings to stretch out his arm. He is too valuable a pitcher to risk injury by rushing him. 2012 will see him in PS.
MTU -
OK, I’ll look into it. Is it an autobiography?
Just kidding, its a great book on how to survive the troubled times we live in.
Y’s-
Banuelos had a bout of appendicitis which set him back a bit.
If it weren’t for that he would have had a whole season at AA under his belt by now.
You don’t have to be a pitching coach to see how advanced he is as a
pitcher.
And, IMO, the only reason he isn’t in the majors right now is because
of the Verducci rules.
He can get ML hitters out right now. Consistently.
You’ll see him in the rotation next season as long as he stays healthy.
And IMO you’lkl be glad he’s there.
Al-
Sounds like you’ve already read it ?
MTU -
You know I can’t read, someone read it to me when I was making some savings decisions. Who do you think I am, Mosart? See, I warned you I don’t make sense.
Al-
It’s some heavy duty sh*t.
Considering it was written 20 or so years ago it reads a lot like prophesy.
If they got paid by the insight they’d be billionaires IMO.
2 absolutely brilliant Men.
sp: prophecy. sorry. Duh.
“My 2 favorite teams, Duke and UNC.”
Isn’t this like one’s 2 favorite teams being the Yankees and Red Sox?
MTU -
Did you read their follow-up book, The Sovereign Individual?
Al-
Do you remember when that came out ?
I did not. I was more interested in the Economic History aspect than the other practical money/survival techniques.
Is it as good as the other ?
If so, I should get a copy.
Mell -
No, I root for Duke, but enjoy watching UNC play, and respect both teams, coaches and programs. If UNC is not playing Duke, I’ll root for them, but, my favorite team is Duke.
I imagine if one had attended either school, you’re way of thinking may be correct, and one could have loyality to only one of the teams.
Its more like saying I’m a Yankees fan, but I may also follow and root for the Mets, when they’re not playing the Yankees, but, my first love would always be the Yankees.
so you are saying he’s not major league ready because he didnt have enough time to develop in the minors, thats fine and i agree.
but over and over i read on here that manny is major league ready and innings are the only reason he’s not in the majors, which makes no sense.
if he needs more time to develop, which seems to be the case, then he’s not major-league ready.
thats the point i was making.
MTU -
A quick review I found, I have not as yet read it.
James Dale Davidson and Lord William Rees-Mogg are experts at predicting future trends and tailoring financial strategies and self-reliant measures to protect oneself against the future. The Sovereign Individual is about self-accountability and taking action. The Sovereign Individual is not beholden to his government and looks out for himself/herself and his/her loved ones. The Sovereign Individual takes steps to ensure his/her physical safety, job/business and finances.
This book challenges the concept of nationhood and all the propaganda fed to us. The concept of nationhood as we have come to known is a relatively young one and not necessarily a good one. Governments, spouting patriotism, can make use of its people for its own ends e.g. burdensome taxes, raising armies for wars, treating its citizens like low-classed employees – all for the benefit of a select elite few.
Y’s,
I’ve argued that very same thing just to gauge opinion really but I think looking ready and being ready can be two seperate things. He has very few innings at the AA or above level. He looks ready to me but I’ve seen him.throw less than 5 innings total….
Al-
I’m gonna get it.
Y’s-
His stuff is ML ready.
Unlike some of the other guys.
That’s what I meant.
Big Al:
Understood. I grew up in Northern Va in the 70′s and 80′s. At that point the area was still very much ACC country (Big East has apparently made inroads since), and such thinking would likely be viewed as a little unconventional. I get your point though.
Mell -
blake went to UNC, so he could never think of rootong for the darker blue, but, me I love college sports more than pro sports, when it comes to BB and football.
Penn State football is my love.
“if he needs more time to develop, which seems to be the case, then he’s not major-league ready.”
By the looks of the scouting reports, it seems the one thing he needs to develop above all else is the stamina necessary to be a regular contributor in a 5 man major league rotation. Most seem to believe the stuff and, more importantly, the command of the stuff is strong enough to put him at the highest level right now. In general he’s only been averaging around 5 innings per start as a minor leaguer. I’d imagine this is the year in his development when they allow him to go deeper into games and develop endurance to go along with his present skillset.
upstate kate March 9th, 2011 at 6:44 am
Altho I still want to eventually see Montero as catcher w/ Cervelli as back up?guess that will have to wait until next year.
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Me too!
I’m still holding out hope that we’ll see the Montero/Cervelli combo this year.
I’d rather see Martin/Montero.
Erin -
No love for Martin?
Big Al-nothing against Martin. I just love Cervelli.
Al-
Martin doesn’t have “dreamy eyes” like Cervelli.
Women like that.
erin, what r u going to do with our $4M catcher then?
Isn’t Martin on a one year contract? My plan is to have Martin/Montero this year, and Montero/Cervelli next year. I don’t care if it is logical or not, I like Cervelli.
Kate-
I believe there is an “option” on Martin for next season.
MTU -
I think you’re right, the women love Cervelli, he’s like a puppy for them to love. I guess he’s already house broken.
Kate-
Sorry. wrongo. No option according to “COTS”
Should have checked first.
Ys Guy March 9th, 2011 at 8:47 am
erin, what r u going to do with our $4M catcher then?
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No idea. It’s not the most thought out plan.
I like the 2009 Cervelli, not so much the 2010 version.
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who doesn’t love a puppy?
The National Enquirer can’t hold a roman candle to me. As a new day dawns with a nice warm cup of Tiger’s Blood and a smoke, then off to wreak more havoc.
Just like with the Yankees, WINNING IS EVERYTHING ! !