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Tuesday notes: Brackman finally gets his first spring inning

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Mar 08, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Andrew Brackman said he couldn’t sit still in the Yankees bullpen this afternoon. His professional career already included enough waiting, and this month he had to wait through a minor groin injury before finally making his spring debut. Through today’s first six innings, Brackman couldn’t sit still.

“The blood’s pumping a little bit,” he said. “You go out there and you want to see what you’ve got.”

Brackman wasn’t especially happy with his scoreless inning — he said his stuff wasn’t as good as it’s been in the bullpen — but he’s glad the first one it out of the way. Joe Girardi seemed impressed. He said he saw good fastball command, a good curveball, and he couldn’t tell Brackman was anxious.

“You think about (if) somebody goes down and you need a starter, you want to see how these kids are handling themselves in this atmosphere,” Girardi said before the game. “Are they a guy that gets frustrated easily? Are they a guy that lets innings unravel?”

Brackman’s inning didn’t unravel. It actually got better as it went along. Ultimately, Brackman knows he’s an extreme long shot to break camp in the rotation — although he said, in the back of his mind, he still thinks he could win the job — but Girardi twice today said he wouldn’t rule out the idea of breaking Brackman into the big leagues as a reliever.

“I would be open to anything to get me in a pinstripe uniform,” Brackman said. “I feel the Yankees definitely see me as a starter (long term), and I see myself as a starter, and hopefully it can stay that way.”

• Girardi said the first round of cuts could come this weekend.

• Jorge Posada got only two at-bats today, but Girardi said that was the plan coming into the game. He’s not hurt. “Everyone came out good today,” Girardi said.

• Girardi was asked again about the possibility of putting Brett Gardner in the leadoff spot. “We’re in no rush to (make that decision),” he said. “I don’t have to put up a lineup until March 31.”

• Ronnie Belliard seemed to be something of a long shot when camp opened, but after missing nearly two weeks of games, it’s hard to imagine him winning a spot on the Yankees bench. “He’s competing more against Chavez and Vazquez than Nunez and Pena,” Girardi said. Of course, Chavez and Vazquez have been two of the best hitters in camp so far.

• Utility infield candidates Eduardo Nunez and Ramiro Pena each had two hits today. Nunez also stole three bases, while Pena was caught stealing once. Pena did make a nice play at shortstop, though, going toward third base to get the out on a ball Brandon Laird couldn’t quite reach.

• Another double for Jorge Vazquez.

• Nick Swisher and Curtis Granderson each had two hits, with Granderson hitting a two-run triple to center field. Posada also had an RBI base hit.

• Dave Robertson struck out the first three batters he faced, but because the first guy reached on a wild pitch, the inning continued through a walk, another wild pitch and a two-run single. Despite three straight strikeouts to start the inning, Robertson was still saddled with two earned runs.

• Romulo Sanchez got a save despite allowing a run in the ninth. Not that I thought of him as a favorite to make this roster, but I did expect Sanchez to get a little more of a look that he’s gotten so far. He’s out of options, he was a starter through most of last season, and he has a huge fastball. Seemed to me he was a solid backup plan as a long reliever, but he’s pitched just two innings.

Associated Press photos. The top one is of a Brett Gardner at bat. I thought the ball looked cool.

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116 Responses to “Tuesday notes: Brackman finally gets his first spring inning”

  1. Jerkface March 8th, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    It does look cool.

  2. Bronx Jeers March 8th, 2011 at 6:06 pm

    Sounds like Grienke won’t have to be annoyed by fans until at least May.

  3. Betsy March 8th, 2011 at 6:09 pm

    Sorry to disappoint, but Phil does not tweet:

    http://twitter.com/PhilHugheNews

    This is an account for news on Phil, but it’s not his account

  4. blake March 8th, 2011 at 6:09 pm

    SI_JonHeyman Greinke admits suffering fractured rib playing basetball. Hurt self falling after going for rebound

    Boy…that doesn’t look great this.time.of year …

  5. Jerkface March 8th, 2011 at 6:10 pm

    http://twitter.com/PhilHughes65

    Betsy, you’re not as good as hughes investigator as I am!

  6. Betsy March 8th, 2011 at 6:13 pm

    Ouch, Jerkface, lol. I admit I didn’t look too hard, lol. Whenever I google Phil, I come up with Philip Joseph Hughes – serial killer – and also Phil Hugehs the English cricketer. I think there’s also a Phil Hughes who owns a Honda dealership in Athens, GA

    In any case, he used the word “shizz” – ok, I’m too old to read what a 24 year old tweets, particularly if he’s using words that are not part of the English language, lol.

  7. Jerkface March 8th, 2011 at 6:13 pm

    I reprimanded him for his use of shizz.

  8. Betsy March 8th, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    Oh good, lol – someone had to.

  9. LGY March 8th, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    Maybe it is a fake Phil Hughes?

  10. Betsy March 8th, 2011 at 6:16 pm

    If that’s him, then oh boy……..I mean “wittle boo boo”? I hope to hell it’s fake, lol

  11. 108 stitches March 8th, 2011 at 6:19 pm

    If Andrew Brackman and Mark Prior build up enough stamina and arm strength and Mitre falters, either one could make the team as the long reliever. A wait and see thing.
    Romulo Sanchez will be dealt for a useful AAA or AA position player by the 2nd wave of cuts.

  12. Jerkface March 8th, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    Colin Curtis says its the real Hughes.

  13. Jerkface March 8th, 2011 at 6:21 pm

    Unless Curtis is also a fake Curtis :x

  14. Betsy March 8th, 2011 at 6:23 pm

    Who would bother faking a Colin Curtis twitter, lol?

    Too bad about it not being a fake Phil :mad:

  15. upstate kate March 8th, 2011 at 6:24 pm

    Curt Schilling was on Baseball tonight…wow has he gotten fat! No surprise here, he is picking a red sox/phillies WS.

  16. LGY March 8th, 2011 at 6:27 pm

    “If Andrew Brackman and Mark Prior build up enough stamina and arm strength and Mitre falters, either one could make the team as the long reliever. A wait and see thing.”

    —————-

    Why would the Yankees waste Brackmonster on the long relief role?

  17. SJ44 March 8th, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    Brackman isn’t going to be a long reliever.

    He will go into the AAA rotation, continue to develop his game, and be ready if injuries and/or ineffectiveness hits the major league rotation.

    If they defy the odds and no injuries and/or ineffectiveness hits the rotation, he could see action in the pen for the stretch drive.

    He won’t be wasted in long relief.

  18. MG March 8th, 2011 at 6:51 pm

    the decision on the last two spots in the rotation will get much more clear by the end of Spring Training, each of them has 3-4 more starts and it’s unlikely all of them continue to throw the ball so well.

    If it’s me making the decision and both Colon and Garcia continue to throw strikes and get outs I send Nova to Scranton to start the season and wait for an opening either through ineffectiveness or injury. If not, it’s likely that another starter (beyond Nova) will be needed sooner rather than later and Mitre isn’t a particularly good option.

  19. Benny Blanco March 8th, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    its funny how things works out. Could you imagine the media attention the greinke injury would receive if he had gotten hurt playing basketball after the yankees traded for him? Yikes

  20. Yogi Mantle March 8th, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    MG, I agree. I think Colon and Garcia will be looked at a bit differently mainly because they can’t be sent down. Its also still early in the ST process. You want to see how things go as they all get deeper into games.

    In the back of the Yankees minds will be how Nova was really good to start a game, then faded really quick around inning 5. If he’s pitching well through three, great, but it doesn’t really show he can keep it up through 5 or 6 innings.

    It will be interesting to see how things shake out, and the Yankees could decide on using one young arm as a starter to fill in the back of the rotation so next season wouldn’t have two rookies possibly being in. I just think it more likely that they allow Nova to get innings in and watching to see how the vet arms will do.

  21. Joe from Long Island March 8th, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    I think the decision will be made by the pitchers. It’s one thing to go through the lineup once. It’s another to have to pitch 5-6 innings, and see the lineup 2-3 times. And having it be the major leaguers, not mixed with minor leaguers. And over another two weeks, when the hitters start getting their timing down better.

    Having several SP candidates is a good problem. It will work out. Personally, I think it will be Garcia and Nova. If that’s the case, I wonder if the Yanks will try to sign Colon to a ML contract, and then trade him.

  22. BoJo March 8th, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    Yogi–

    That young arm wioll get a chance to be broken in by second half of season. Even if Garcia and Colon are lights out, one of the pitching staff is certain to break down and go on DL…it usually always happens.

    I agree that Colon and Garcia go north if they continue to pitch well.

  23. LGY March 8th, 2011 at 7:17 pm

    I’ll join Rich in puking if Garcia and Colon go north over Nova.

  24. mick March 8th, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    At first I thought it would be Nova and Garcia but as Bojo says someone will eventually break down.
    Instead of scuffling at the trade deadline, might be a good idea to hold onto both veterans.
    Nova will get more work down there anyway.

  25. LGY March 8th, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    If the Yankees need to make a move at the deadline it would be for a high end pitcher to help them in the playoffs.

    Nova threw 145 innings at AAA last year with a 2.86 ERA. He threw 42 innings in the majors last year.

    It is time for the Yankees to trust these kids.

    If not what is the point of talking big about their pitching prospects? Just to hand the ball to Bartolo Colon every 5th day?

    Use the kids.

  26. mick March 8th, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    Wouldn’t want to be the one to break it to Nova , if he continues to have the great spring he has.

  27. mick March 8th, 2011 at 7:32 pm

    If the Yankees need to make a move at the deadline it would be for a high end pitcher to help them in the playoffs.
    =====================
    Don’t they still have Andy’s 12m?

  28. Nick in SF March 8th, 2011 at 7:33 pm

    Nova would need hugs, not puke. :cry:

  29. LGY March 8th, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    Nova would need hugs, not puke.

    —————-

    :D

  30. blake March 8th, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    I agree with LGY.

  31. mick March 8th, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    If Colon keeps throwing the way he has, Yanks wil have to find a place for him.

  32. West Coast Yankee Fan March 8th, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    It’s March 8th and as Girardi said he doesn’t have to fill out a lineup card until March 31st; there’s plenty of time to let this play out and let the guys compete. Odds are it will be pretty apparent by the end of spring training who the better choices are.

    Right now, I would take Nova and Garcia as my 4 and 5 and Nunez and Chavez as my back-up infielders.

  33. CB March 8th, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    Can’t get over how good Montero looks behind the plate. He’s able to get into a crouch to set his target low and make himself functionally small despite his frame. His hands look very good and he’s receiving the ball well.

    It’s just remarkable. Watching him now you really feel like you’re watching the next cornerstone player in the franchise’s history coming into his own.

  34. tyanksfan36 March 8th, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    I still think its too early in spring training to decide on who goes north. They’ve only pitched 5 innings each. In a few weeks when its time to make the decision there will probably be clear frontrunners for those 2 spots.

  35. mick March 8th, 2011 at 7:42 pm

    Use the kids.
    ==========
    Like the concept but why then give Colon a shot at all?

  36. mick March 8th, 2011 at 7:44 pm

    Can’t get over how good Montero looks behind the plate.
    =====================================
    He is surrounded by catchers from Pena to Girardi to Posada and Martin.
    There is no better place for him to further his craft.

  37. West Coast Yankee Fan March 8th, 2011 at 7:46 pm

    The Yankees need a fifth starter and that’s why I believe Colon and Garcia were brought in, to compete for that position. I think Nova was the number four from the get go – and unless he “loses” the spot I think it’s his and it should be.

  38. CB March 8th, 2011 at 7:46 pm

    Curtis Granderson’s plate coverage is so much better now. He has such fast hands and get them through the hitting zone so quickly.

    He’s looked very good this spring. Picking up where he left off.

  39. Betsy March 8th, 2011 at 7:49 pm

    Granderson deserves a lot of credit for completely remaking his swing – this was a guy who just a few years ago was an all-star. He’s such a dynamic player and great fun to watch – if he can just stay healthy, he’s bound for a terrific year.

  40. m March 8th, 2011 at 7:51 pm

    Garcia said he was fighting for “the” spot. Mayr There’s only one spot left? I don’t think anyone anticipated Colon looking this good!

  41. pat March 8th, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    Charlie Sheen wearing a Yankee BP warm-up shirt during his delusional rant.

    Can’t decide if George would have loved that or been embarassed by it.

  42. Carl March 8th, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    If Colon pitches well I would send Nova to AAA.

  43. kd March 8th, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    cb,

    did you watch garcia today? think he’ll be a decent #5?

  44. Joe from Long Island March 8th, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    CB – Hi, hope you’ve been well. It’s been a long winter. Welcome to spring.

    I’m watching the YES encore, and just saw Granderson’s triple in the 2nd. And, you’re right about his plate coverage. One of the changes that Long made, I think, was to cut down on the moving parts, and follow the pitch more, using his hands as the ball goes farther into the zone. It looks similar to Swisher, and I think now that Gardner’s keeeping both his hands on the bat more, they all seem somewhat similar. The Kevin Long approach, I guess.

    Re: Freddy Garcia – I’ve noticed that Girardi keeps using the phrase “He knows how to pitch” or “He knows how to get guys out”. I remember he used the same terms with Alfredo Aceves, before the injuries, and Girardi really seemed to trust him. I get the impression that that’s the highest praise from Girardi.

  45. Betsy March 8th, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    Embarrassed, lol

  46. blake March 8th, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    CB,

    Pretty awesome that Montero apparently wanted it bad enough to prove everyone wrong..

  47. Betsy March 8th, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    Blake, I think wanting to prove people wrong is a pretty darn good motivating factor………we see it with Montero, but he’s not the only one. People tend to take it personally when they are told they can’t do something.

  48. blake March 8th, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    Betsy,

    I agree..

  49. West Coast Yankee Fan March 8th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    That’s wonderful news that Justin Morneau is back between the lines. He had a bases clearing three-run double today. I hope he stays healthy.

  50. Joe from Long Island March 8th, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    WCYF – Morneau played today? That’s great.

    The NY Times had a feature story on him today, detailing his struggle coming back from the concussion. He really seems like a good person. All baseball fans should be rooting for him.

  51. Ys Guy March 8th, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    barring injury i don’t expect to see both colon and garcia on the team. as long as nova pitches well, they will cut colon loose, he’s just insurance.

  52. Ys Guy March 8th, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    morneau played! that’s great news! i like that guy!

  53. West Coast Yankee Fan March 8th, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    Joe from Long Island March 8th, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    WCYF – Morneau played today? That’s great. The NY Times had a feature story on him today, detailing his struggle coming back from the concussion. He really seems like a good person. All baseball fans should be rooting for him.

    **********************

    Thanks for the reminder, that was an excellent article by Pat Borzi. Here’s the link if anyone is interested.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03.....f=baseball

  54. CB March 8th, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    kd-

    Just watching the game now. I thought Garcia looked fine. He’ll be ok as a 5th starter.

    That said, I’ve actually liked how Colon has thrown the ball so far more than how Garcia has.

    But those are just small samples. On the whole I’d go with Nova and Garcia all things holding constant.

    Garcia will be fine as a 5th starter as long as he stays healthy.

  55. West Coast Yankee Fan March 8th, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    A conversation with his doctorprompted this from Morneau:

    “I’m not more at risk than anybody else with a fastball to the head or anything else. That was kind of what I needed to hear,” he said.

    You hope that’s true. You hear about adverse effects from head injuries showing up years down the road sometimes.

  56. CB March 8th, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    Dellin Betances has great stuff and a great arm.

    He really needs to tighten up his front side mechanics. Hopefully it’s only a spring training issue.

    He keeps opening up his front shoulder too early and that’s causing him to get up in the zone rather than using his height to create the kind of downward plane he should be.

    He needs to work on that front side.

  57. Carlo March 8th, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    YS- On the other hand, if they want to preserve depth, they bring both colon and gracia north, give them a shot in april/may and then let the one that doesn’t produce go in favor of Nova. Nova is the only one of the 3 who can be sent to the minors. Makes him the easiest choice if all are throwing the ball similarly at the end of spring.

  58. Yogi Mantle March 8th, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    The thing to remember is the Yankees are a pretty conservative organization when it comes to bringing in young players.

    I wouldn’t have a problem seeing Nova make the club out of spring training, as I think it helps open the door for another young arm to come up next year as well. The thing is they are cautious about bringing up talent while being willing to let them have chances.

    Injuries unfortunately will probably happen within the rotation. Colon and Garcia have been looking fairly decent so far, with having experience and no options to keep them if they don’t make the team, it makes it an easier decision to keep them if they continue through the ST period.

    I would think they will give Nova enough chances to show what he can do, along with the veterans, and see what options would be best for the team.

    I think if its a choice between Colon and Garcia that Garcia has the edge. If its a choice between veterans and a rookie with options, I think it makes some sense for the veteran to get the edge provided they are getting fairly similar results.

    I think the next couple of weeks will help sort things out more as the pitchers get a little deeper into games and the minor league players are dropped from the lineups.

    Nova getting some innings in as long reliever isn’t such a bad option for him either, as it can ease him into the game on the upper level without quite the same pressure to perform as a starter.

    I personally would love to see some young arms coming up. I think it can help open up the opportunities for others who are getting nearer to being ready.

  59. CB March 8th, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    Joe-

    How have things been? Hope you and the family have been well.

    Granderson just looks very good now. Plate coverage, timing, ability to reach pitches upstairs and down.

    He has such good hands the main thing you want in his setup is to just stay out of the way of those hands.

    I agree with you on Garcia. Don’t think it’s a competition. It’s his job to lose.

  60. Tar March 8th, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    SJ

    How is Tony doing? Any good stories from ST training yet :D

  61. CB March 8th, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    blake-

    My sense is that he sees himself as a catcher and hasn’t considered himself to be anything else.

    Lots of people are going to have missed the mark on this one. When I saw his hands last year I thought he had a real shot to stick.

    His pop times in the minors are consistently in the 1.8 range. And he has a strong arm.

    The issue is his receiving. And the way he looks now – I don’t see any terminal issues.

    Human beings are pretty good looking at situations where change is linear. Statistics are useful in those situations as well.

    But huge portions of baseball are decided by non-linearities. Prospecting is one of them.

  62. LGY March 8th, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    Why should the Yanks settle for mediocrity in both the 4th and 5th spot?

    If an injury occurs they have Brack and Noesi on the 40 man ready to take the call.

  63. Ed H. March 8th, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    # mick March 8th, 2011 at 7:44 pm

    Can’t get over how good Montero looks behind the plate.
    =====================================
    He is surrounded by catchers from Pena to Girardi to Posada and Martin.
    There is no better place for him to further his craft.

    ______________________

    He’s got Yogi and Butch Wynegar there too. Wow.

  64. Jerkface March 8th, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    Colon and Garcia were supposed to be fighting for one spot, and maybe the other if Nova really bombed, but as it always ends up with these things its likely the yankees keep both veterans if they keep performing.

    I’d prefer they take Garcia and Nova and Mitre as the long man.

  65. blake March 8th, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    CB,

    Agree, good to see you around by the way. If he can catch then he might be a monster…I think we’re all ready to find out.

    I saw him in several SWB games online last year and I just never really saw the terrible defensive catcher that you kept reading about….on top of that now he’s shown up in great shape to camp and looks even better back there. Good for him.

  66. Joe from Long Island March 8th, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    CB – family is well, thanks for asking.

    Speaking of Granderson, he just keeps hitting line drives. Long has said that Alex is totally locked in now, but Granderson can’t be too far behind.

    Curry talking now about Montero’s hands, and Pena’s take on his catching. Very complimentary. Talking about how he needs to throw to second before he stands up. Sounds like Pena believes he can catch…..

  67. blake March 8th, 2011 at 8:34 pm

    I’ve been impressed by Colon as well this spring. Pretty good velocity and he still has great movement on his 2 seamer….what I worry about is endurance and whether he’ll be able to navigate through lineups multiple times and go deep in games. I think this may sort itself out as we start to see guys go 5+ innings.

  68. BoJo March 8th, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    If I were the Yankees GM, I would plan to send Nunez down to SWB and work it so that he doesn’t work so many innings in first few starts so that he is still strong for a planeed call up in July. If he is at–say 70 innings–when called up, he should still be very strong and rested for a dynamic performance during the final stretch.

    During his time at SWB, I woiuld task him with improving either a slider or curve to give him a third pitch.

  69. Pat M. March 8th, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    I’ve only seen Montero catch a few times and he’ll more than just serviceable behind the plate from the little I’ve seen of time….He’ll only improve as he learns

  70. BoJo March 8th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    By the way, let’s not talk about Colon as if he is some lackey (oun intended). This guy was a Cy Young winner and a dominant starter who knows how to win. If he is hitting 93-94 and spotting his fastabll AND can stay healthy, this guy is a #2 on most staffs.

    Forget the weight and age, he is showing that he still has the tools.

    And–IF and when he breaks down–the Yankees don’t have to trade away prospects to find a nother starter–they just call up Nova.

  71. West Coast Yankee Fan March 8th, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    I don’t think Teixeira would enjoy Nunez throwing a slider or a curve ball to him.

  72. BoJo March 8th, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    Hi Pat–

    I was looking at your Baseball-reference file…man, you played with some real great players! Ever stay in touch with any of them?

  73. MTU March 8th, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    If it weren’t for his innings limit Banuelos would be ready to pitch in the Majors right now.

    Of the three Bees he impresses me the most.

    Jesus looked awfully good out there today.

    :)

  74. blake March 8th, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    Bojo,

    Colon hasn’t thrown 100 innings in the big leagues since 2005. I like what I’ve seen so far but doing it for a couple innings against ST lineups isn’t going to tell the whole story…..you don’t keep Nova out the rotation for him IMO.

  75. LGY March 8th, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    If the Yankees don’t go with Nova from the start it will be hard to believe anything they have said about him or many other of their pitching prospects the past 6 months.

    They have been putting positive messages out there about Nova every chance they get.

    He should get a full season in the rotation to show them what he has. It would be pretty amazing for all of Cashman’s big talk about his pitching prospects to have Freddy Garcia and Bartolo Colon at the back of the rotation.

  76. SJ44 March 8th, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    Let’s wait a few more weeks before we decide Colon is a solution.

    Unless he falls apart the next 3 weeks, I think Nova is in the rotation.

    Tar,

    Tony is doing well. I won’t be in Bradenton until Friday.

    I’m Orlando and Tampa the next few days.

  77. Yogi Mantle March 8th, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    LGY, I don’t think its settling for a mediocre pitcher as much as it is about having a pitcher who has more experience over an unproven one. The biggest thing is seeing if Nova can continue doing well in ST through the next 3 starts when they go deeper in the game.

    Remember, Nova came up and was brilliant to start the games then it got away quickly. With Burnett still being a question (which will remain through the beginning of the season at least) they won’t be wild about having a rookie pitcher who seemed to struggle big time once the line up turned over a couple of times. Its not like Colon is a big cost to the club, and they will have enough of an idea of how both Nova and Colon are pitching to see which one gives them the best option for covering the rotation slots.

    I don’t think Nova is out of the running. I do believe that if both are doing well the edge goes to the veteran though, as experience in the majors does make a difference. Nova starting in the minors could help him polish his stuff a little more, and more than likely he would be called up earlier this season than he was last year.

  78. LGY March 8th, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    The only reason they shouldn’t go with Nova is if all this hype has just been a smokescreen for an eventual trade and they think he will tank in the majors and ruin his trade value.

  79. Carlo March 8th, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    LGY – they settled for back of the rotation mediocrity a while ago. Nova + Garcia is not that much better than Garci + Colon. Sending Nova to AAA makes a lot of sense if all 3 leave march throwing the ball well. If u accept back end mediocrity than having depth is prudent. Leaving Nova in Scranton helps provide that. Brackman and Noesi aren’t depth at this stage in their development.

  80. LGY March 8th, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    Yogi,

    You can take that proven over young kid line with every pitching prospect.

    What is the point of having all these pitching prospects though?

    Also, Nova never had a chance to work through trouble. Girardi yanked him the second anyone got on base. How can you go deep into games if you are not allowed to work through trouble?

    These were Nova’s pitch counts last season in his starts.

    73, 88, 76, 91, 74, 78, 81

    How are you supposed to go deep in games with that few pitches to work with?

    Also, he was at the end of a long season so fatigue was probably a factor.

  81. MTU March 8th, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    Nunez put on quite a display today.

    Nunez over Pena.

    ;)

  82. tyanksfan36 March 8th, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    I’m going to the game tomorrow night. Hopefully I get to see some good minor leaguers to watch towards the end.

  83. randy l. March 8th, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    “If Colon keeps throwing the way he has, Yanks wil have to find a place for him.”

    i’m just worried that if colon makes the team, on road trips, the plane might just fly around in circles if bartolo gets a window seat.

  84. LGY March 8th, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    Carlo,

    How do you know Nova is mediocre?

  85. CB March 8th, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    Blake-

    I think he’ll catch. I’m with you – the times I saw him catch last year he looked fine. This spring he’s even better.

    He’s going to stick. Might not stick for a decade but that’s a separate issue.

    And man is he going to hit. He has a swing that is just off the charts good. He’s going to go through rough spots and he’ll need to make adjustments. But he’s going to be so good at the plate.

    He has a shot to be the best player in the game one day.

  86. BoJo March 8th, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    blake March 8th, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    Bojo,

    Colon hasn’t thrown 100 innings in the big leagues since 2005. I like what I’ve seen so far but doing it for a couple innings against ST lineups isn’t going to tell the whole story…..you don’t keep Nova out the rotation for him IMO.
    _____________
    Doesn’t matter. It’s not like he is a young pitcher who has to be built up on his innings, or even that he has to pitch 150 innings for the team. If he gets off to a good start and tires, he can be sent to DL. If he comes back in time for play-offs, his experience could be a big help.

    But I agree it is early and he has to continue to perform

  87. Carlo March 8th, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    LGY – I don’t know if he is mediocre. From what I saw of him last year, I like what he can do. That said, coming into the season, the 4/5 spots of our rotation will be league average spots. Maybe Nova can be better than average for a #4 starter, maybe not. Maybe garcia or colon can as well. That’s my point. We shouldn’t expect any of them to meaningfully outperform what they are being asked to be, which is capable back end guys.

  88. blake March 8th, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    “He has a shot to be the best player in the game one day.”

    high praise but if he can be an every day catcher and his bat develops the way it could then it’s certainly possible.

    Separate issue…have you seen AJ this spring? I’ve seen him twice and his delivery looks better, less rotational and more towards the plate. Getting him closer to his career norms would be huge.

  89. blake March 8th, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    Bojo,

    It does matter. He hasn’t really done anything on the big league level for like 6 years…..its not unusual in these cases for guys to do well in small samples, its maintaining it that’s usually the issue. Again, I like what I’ve seen but lets see him get through 5 innings first…..

  90. CB March 8th, 2011 at 9:03 pm

    Blake-

    I have seen AJ. Looks very different.

    He’s much more centered over his balance point. In turn he seems to be more consistent with this arm action and release point (all of which used to vary so much pitch to pitch). I like what Rothschild has done.

    I’ve always wondered with AJ does a guy with that good an arm need to add so much complexity to his delivery just to create deception?

    Sure if you’re Felix and you can add that to how you throw that just makes you that much better.

    But if you struggle to repeat as much as AJ has over his career is it really worth the trade off?

    I just figure that at this point AJ couldn’t adjust his mechanics.

    But last year may have been the kind of rock bottom that creates the circumstances for change.

    All that said – we have to see him repeat these simplified mechanics consistently over time.

    One thing I’ve done is to tune out anything AJ has to say. Every spring training with him is the same in terms of talk.

    He’s got to show it on the field and do so consistently.

  91. blake March 8th, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    CB,

    no doubt. I actually remember you and I discussing early last year whether AJ had turned a corner in his career. He was pitching so well and was seeming to work himself out of jams….then the wheels just fell off his season….so yup, he has to show it over a season.

  92. LGY March 8th, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    Martin is a big ST talker like AJ.

  93. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    I misread that as stalker…

  94. CB March 8th, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    Brackman looks so much better than he did last spring. Wow.

    Last year he was so much more mechanical and deliberate in his mechanics. It looked like he was sort of thinking about making sure all of the parts were moving together in sync and trying to keep everything working together.

    He looks much freer now. More athletic and faster through his mechanics. He looks like he’s throwing rather than thinking abour throwing.

    This is a fun spring.

  95. blake March 8th, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    Granderson looks so good this spring….a full season of Grandy 2.0 is going to be big.

  96. LGY March 8th, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    CB,

    What do you think about Brackman in terms of what he can give the Yanks if he was called up to make some spot starts at some point this season?

  97. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    The Yankees are loaded. The only two things that can derail them are health issues or a lack of patience.

  98. Ys Guy March 8th, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    i dont see them keeping colon over nova. if nova pitches well enough he’ll be in the rotation and colon will go. just because nova has options doesnt mean its your best move to use them.

    also where would they pitch nova? who gets put in the bp or sent down to aa to make room for colon?

    they could do it but i dont see it happening

  99. LGY March 8th, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    Phil Jackson: :lol:

    “This is the NBA: No Boys Allowed,” Jackson said. “Big boys don’t cry. But, if you’re going to do it, do it in the toilet where no one can see.”

  100. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    One thing that I’ve noticed about Burnett in his starts is that there’s a dark spot on the mound that is his landing spot with his left foot and he’s missed his spot once in the 2 starts and his foot points straight to the plate..

  101. LGY March 8th, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    “The Yankees are loaded. The only two things that can derail them are health issues or a lack of patience.”

    —————–

    And deference to veterans like Colon.

  102. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2011 at 9:30 pm

    LGY

    In a way, that’s a subset of a lack of patience, but yes, I agree.

  103. LGY March 8th, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    Weird. Melissa Segura had this on her twitter, but then took it down 10 minutes later.

    The FL lawsuit v. Hendricks/Fernandez says Yankees made “offer to Chapman valued at more than $54 million” Chap signed 6yr/$30.25 mil w Reds

  104. CB March 8th, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    LGY-

    It’s hard to know. For spot starts it would probably be ok. Though my preference – and a strong one would be to go with Noesi, Warren, and Phelps before Brackman for spot starts unless Brackman goes down and then hits that next level.

    My sense is that Brackman would benefit a great deal from throwing 170 innings in AAA this year.

    I think he still needs to work on throwing the ball and being consistent doing so. I think he’s still figuring out how best to use his physical tools.

    For example, even in his outing today how he threw the ball varied too much pitch to pitch. And that caused how much of a downwards plane he got on his fastball to change.

    Things like that. And those things are best done in the minors.

    That said, by the second half he very well could be ready. I don’t think he’s on a linear improvement curve.

  105. RadioKev March 8th, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    I gotta respectfully disagree about Colon right now. He’s nothing to get overly excited about. Sure he won Cy Young, but the guy is going to have stamina issues, and who knows how that will affect him. I will be truly shocked if he puts up a better than average season this year, and without any significant DL time, when it’s all said and done.

  106. Betsy March 8th, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    Colon wouldn’t have to be better than average, he’d just have to be decent – we are just talking about the 4th/5th starter. Same goes for any of the other candidates…………

  107. BoJo March 8th, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    LGY March 8th, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    Weird. Melissa Segura had this on her twitter, but then took it down 10 minutes later.

    The FL lawsuit v. Hendricks/Fernandez says Yankees made “offer to Chapman valued at more than $54 million” Chap signed 6yr/$30.25 mil w Reds
    _______________________
    I always suspected that they would pursue him. Didn’t seem their style to not go after him.

  108. ron March 8th, 2011 at 9:39 pm

    Fantastic spring with all the kids we have.

    If brackman can refine his offspeed pitches & not be affraid to throw them behind in the count effectively,he is going to be a great pitcher with that fastball.

  109. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    Who turns down an extra $25m when they come from nothing?

    The Yankees may have had more interest than we know, but that report seems highly unlikely.

  110. LGY March 8th, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    Bojo

    I highly doubt that is true.

    Can’t see a kid from Cuba passing on 25 million and she took the tweet down really quick.

  111. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    One thing that gets overlooked with Brackman is his fielding and pickoffs. He has a lot of throwing errors on pick-off throws and fielding errors, and not just the pick-offs that are honest attemps…the ones that are just “show-mes”, although he did clean that up last year. Still makes it too interesting on his throws.

  112. RadioKev March 8th, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    Betsy March 8th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
    Colon wouldn’t have to be better than average, he’d just have to be decent – we are just talking about the 4th/5th starter. Same goes for any of the other candidates…………

    ————

    That’s why I said he’s nothing to be excited about. I also think he doesn’t bring as much upside to the table as Nova does, but Nova being a young pitcher will also be inconsistant.

  113. Jerkface March 8th, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    Can’t see a kid from Cuba passing on 25 million and she took the tweet down really quick.

    What if the agent never showed that offer to the client? Why would that be evidence in a law suit though

  114. Ys Guy March 8th, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    its march 8th and there are still 3+ weeks till the season starts. i’m excited about alot of things, but bartolo colon is not one of them.

  115. LGY March 8th, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    :arrow:

  116. West Coast Yankee Fan March 8th, 2011 at 9:58 pm

    That tweet was a mistake I’m sure. We didn’t go after Chapman.

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