Individual game tickets on sale tomorrow
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Mar 10, 2011 
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Tickets for individual games to see the New York Yankees at Yankee Stadium will go on sale to the general public on Friday, March 11 at 10:00 a.m. at yankees.com and yankeesbeisbol.com, and via Ticketmaster phone only at (877) 469-9849 and Ticketmaster TTY at (800) 943-4327. Beginning Monday, March 14, tickets may also be purchased at the Yankee Stadium Ticket Office, all area Ticketmaster outlets and all Yankees Clubhouse Shops.
The 27-time World Champion Yankees will begin their 81-game home regular season schedule on Thursday, March 31 at 1:05 p.m. vs. the Detroit Tigers.
The Yankee Stadium Ticket Office is located outside Yankee Stadium adjacent to Gate 4 on the corner of 161st Street and Jerome Avenue. Beginning Monday, March 14, the Yankee Stadium Ticket Office will be open Monday through Saturday from 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. and Sundays from 10:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. On game days during the season, the Yankee Stadium Ticket Office will be open Monday through Saturday from 9:00 a.m. until two hours after the scheduled first pitch and Sundays from 10:00 a.m. until two hours after the scheduled first pitch.
As in past years, the Yankees will make available individual-game ticket value programs throughout the 2011 season. A complete list of ticket specials, including game dates, seating locations, and terms and conditions, can be found at www.yankees.com/ticketspecials, by calling (212) YANKEES [(212) 926-5337] or e-mailing tickets@yankees.com. Please note that all ticket specials are subject to availability.
• Here’s the link for purchasing individual game tickets.
• This is a couple of days old, but Marc Carig did a nice job profiling slugger Jorge Vazquez. It’s hard to imagine Vazquez beating Eric Chavez for a spot on the Opening Day roster, but he’s certainly making an impression. The Yankees brass seem to believe in the bat.
• Former Yankees reliever Steven Jackson has signed with the Dodgers. Jackson has some big league time with the Pirates. When he’s getting ground balls, he’s a legitimate bullpen option.
• MLB Trade Rumors has a Q&A with former Yankees first-round pick Gerrit Cole, who didn’t sign with the club is now a standout at UCLA. “You never want to say ‘no’ or give the impression that I was throwing it in their face or anything like that, because that’s not what it was about,” Cole said.
• One talent evaluator says Carl Pavano has been the best pitcher in the Grapefruit League this spring.
• Jeremy Ruby has resigned as general manager of the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Yankees. It’s a big loss for that franchise. Ruby was basically the guy who worked directly with the players and coaching staff, and he was well liked in the clubhouse. He’s a good guy from a good baseball family. Best of luck at Abington, Jeremy.
Associated Press photos, that’s Nick Swisher at the top, Derek Jeter and Russell Martin in the middle
I really want the Yankees to sign Pavano. That Cash made him offer speaks volumes about how good a GM he is.
wanted
Wow. I was instantly able to label that top picture as Swisher. That scares be a bit.
Kemba Walker to the Heat would be great
You hate to be the team that breaks the streak.
What on earth was Kobe doing down the stretch?
The Lakers may have taken the Heat too lightly.
The word was that the smart money was on Miami tonight, and the line moved a bit in their favor this morning.
I was suspicious that the smart money was up to something.
Artest has to make that wide open layup to tie the game. But Kobe was just chucking the ball from all over the place.
What was the line on that game Nick?
Miami +2 the last time I checked.
What is it on this Knicks game?
Knicks +5 the last time I checked (about 15 minutes ago).
Just wondering. Thanks.
Artest should never be allowed to shoot.
Chad – just curious. Why did Ruby leave the team?
“A talent evaluator on Carl Pavano: ‘Best pitcher I’ve seen in Florida this spring. He’s spotting his fastball well, throwing like its July.’”
Interesting because I tried to convey that same thing to Ruby Tuesday aka California E. R. last night when he was like a little hamster on his Clay Bucholz aka Seed of Chucky wheel last night.
He’s like the boy in the bubble, unable to see the outside world.
trisha – true pinstriped blue March 9th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
I thought the best pitcher anyone had seen was Andrew Miller.
“Chad – just curious. Why did Ruby leave the team?”
He didn’t. He just goes by a new name now – E. R. California.
“Fan panic is rarely rooted in reality.”
I think that is a GREAT quote and a truism. I am going to have to ask the author permission to use that as part of my posting template!
Does anyone find it funny Emerald Monday disputes with ER Cali and Ruby?
Trisha, I am SJ44′s LoHud agent. We can negotiate.
Jackson, I think it’s hysterical!
GB – LMAO!
I swear that just about everything you post makes me laugh out loud and it’s a really good belly laugh!
I mean the stuff that’s meant to be funny of course!
How about waiting to see if Hughes is a failure?
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Then you can’t trade him for good prospects? You seem to have missed the point and created your own little thing to complain about (poorly I might add) but thats par for your course. I am not for trading Hughes, but if the Yankees have a abundance of pitching prospects then the best use of them is to let them pitch in the majors then as new guys are ready to break in you make calculated trades on the guys who have major league experience. The point is to be like the Rays, who traded away MAtt Garza for a boatload of prospects to give Jeremy Hellickson a spot. So in a year or two, it may be smart to trade Hughes.
# LGY March 10th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
What on earth was Kobe doing down the stretch?
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Yea that was…yea just you know can’t explain
GB, I am leaving to drop my car off at the mechanic’s garage, but I would like your opinion on that quote. Do you agree that it basically says it all?
Maybe SJ would agree to accept modest royalties and allow a number of us to have it as part of our posting templates!
Will check your response when I get home.
Hughes is the posterboy for Cash’s tenure. Would be interesting to see if he’s ever traded.
In the meantime, I’ll enjoy watching the kids grow up.
SJ’s price is 2 dozen home made sugar cookies and 2 dozen home made peanut butter cookies. He’s authorized me to accept payment. I’ll make sure he gets what’s coming to him…I promise. We’re tight friends…even tighter than me and Randy.
Trisha, just to make sure you caught my drift…one in the same if you ask me.
Joe (RI)
Manny Buenlos has been lights out for the Yankees so far, how long before he forces his way to the bigs?
Klaw
Midyear? I feel like this is Heyward/Atlanta all over again, where you might let the best interests of the club in the current season trump long-term considerations – and it’s not like Banuelos has a ton of things to work on in the minors. If they gave him a rotation spot now I wouldn’t argue.
We’ll see if Banuelos survives cuts this weekend.
I think the Yankees will be cautious with him because he hasn’t thrown a lot of pitches, but maybe they just go old school with him and bring him up. I wouldn’t be opposed.
lol. I just now saw GB’s rant in the last thread.
Of course Law also said this from his source P. Gammons…..If you haven’t seen him yourself then why even comment.
Rich (Bayonne, NJ)
Amidst the reputed improvement of Montero behind the plate, can he be a respectable, albeit not great, defensive catcher for the next few years until Sanchez bumps him to full time DH duty. Everyone who reports from Yankee camp are spouting the improvement, Klaw, I respect your opinion. Should I drink the Kool-Aid that he’ll be passable back there?
Klaw
(12:08 PM)
Said this on Twitter last night – I have heard quite the contrary, that he’s the same behind the plate (that is, poor defensively, and unlikely to stay there based on that and his size) as he always was.
I’ve been saying fan panic is rarely rooted in reality for 2 years.
Yeah sure, just because I happen to be a condescending a-hole about it, it doesn’t count, right?
So not fair…
Jerkface,
as I said last night…I’m perfectly fine with Banuelos throwing his 150 or so innings for Trenton and SWB in 2011….but if he threw them for the Yankees then I don’t think his arm would fall off and I don’t think it would really be that big of a deal if he’s ready. There is no set formula for this stuff…everyone is different.
Rich in NJ sucking up to Law for Montero morsels?????
Some may be surprised who Nova looks to as a mentor.
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-.....id=6203665
The Yankees have agreed to terms with Dominican right-handed pitcher Juan Carlos Paniagua, 20, for $1.1MM, according to Badler. Paniagua, who had previously been suspended by Major League Baseball for one year for age and identity fraud, is 6-foot-1, 170 pounds, Badler writes. His fastball sits in the mid-90s and can touch 98 mph, while scouts are mixed on his secondary pitches. The signing of a previously suspended player for fraud is not unprecedented in MLB nor for the Yankees, for the matter, as Badler notes. Carlos Martinez of the Cardinals and Jose Rafael DePaula of the Bombers are two such examples.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com
Knicks look asleep.
Before I clicked on the link I knew who it was
AJB School of Pitching-Do as I Say, Not as I Did!
Just kidding. Would be funny though if he ended up being some kind if pitching coach.
I fully expect Banuelos to be throwing at Youk’s dome coming out of the pen by Labor Day albeit there will rules in place to protect his health which Mike Kay will colloquially call “Man-Handling”
pat, if that combination along with Rothschild’s tutoring works for them, I’m all for it. As bad as Burnett was for a large part of last year, or even the year before, never once did he blame anything or anyone but himself. I get the feeling that he’s had talks with Chamberlain. Usually, you’d see them talking and sitting together.
“Rich in NJ sucking up to Law for Montero morsels????? ”
I am?
If all that is keeping Banuelos down is innings why not give him the innings up here and shut him down when the time comes?
If all that is keeping Banuelos down is innings why not give him the innings up here and shut him down when the time comes?
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Because then you need to replace him with someone. And the pressure to not shut him down will be great if he is rocking.
Nick,
I hope you didn’t take that +5 on the Knicks.
“Rich (Bayonne, NJ): Klaw, I respect your opinion…”
Banuelos status of being not on the 40 man roster will probably contribute more to him going back to the minors than anything.
pat – thanks for the link. Interesting story.
Bronx Jeers – “Man-handling” – I like that. And, I could see it.
Along with his bad stretches, AJ had some good stretches. IIRC, AJ’s hot start helped build some cushion.
More non-descript or failed pitchers make better pitching coaches than stars do…same with batting coaches. They see flaws mistakes in others but could never correct their own.
First of all GB, you really need to read my post. I did not say Phil was near his ceiling (though I still think he is – you have absolutely NO tolerance for anyone’s opinion other than your own. If people agree with you, that’s cool ,but if not, it’s crap? Give it a rest). READ the post before you react. I said we are closer to finding out what his true ceiling is than we are to finding out what Betances and Banuelos’s are.
LGY, I think the Yankees would trade Phil, but a lot depends on this year.
NO way I trade Cano for Felix
Awful game by the Knicks, but they’re playing their 4th game in 5 nights.
No, I didn’t get mixed up in that Knicks business, but I do fear for the fate of one Pat M., who may be watching the UCLA Bruins go down hard tonight at the Staples Center.
I would trade Cano for Felix straight up in a heartbeat
Jerkface, that’s right. If Phil is just a Garza type, then yeah you trade him. Maybe he is or maybe he isn’t, but I think we’ll find out this year what he’s going to be. Cash clearly thinks the B’s have higher ceilings than he does – I didn’t make it up, he said it- so if he thinks he can get some good assets for Phil, I think he’d do it (but again, this is only if he doesn’t make strides towards being the type of pitcher they thought he’d be when they didn’t trade him for Johan).
I wouldn’t trade Cano for anyone in baseball
“Cash clearly thinks the B’s have higher ceilings than he does – I didn’t make it up, he said it”
What did he say exactly?
We need to have some fun prop bets or closest guess wins kind of thing.
About 10 “stats” questions.
Like “how many times will Rothy visit AJ on the mound?”
I’d pack Robinson’s bags and drive him to the airport for Felix Hernandez.
What did he say exactly?
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He said they were better pitching prospects than phil hughes.
““Rich (Bayonne, NJ): Klaw, I respect your opinion…””
I live in Wyckoff
“He said they were better pitching prospects than phil hughes.”
Can I get a link please?
Stuckey, he said that their ceilings are as good as Phil’s or better – that’s almost an exact quote. I’m not saying they would trade Phil for just anyone – or even that they are considering it. It’s just that IF they come to the conclusion that there are other youngsters they have that are likely to be better than he is, they could trade him for some assets. As I said earlier, they could also trade Nova- but nothing is happening this year. As LGY pointed out also, lots of things could happen. Pitchers could get hurt – or they could fail to develop. What looks like a surplus now may not look like it later.
Can I get a link please?
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Google it
“I’d pack Robinson’s bags and drive him to the airport for Felix Hernandez.”
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A Gardner and Cano hater?
I’d never heard Cash rave about Phil or even Joba the way he’s raved about these 3, so it was obvious to me that he was higher on them.
Stuckey, do you not believe us?
Keep in mind that things have changed. We’re not comparing Phil Hughes circa 2006 to these kids, we’re comparing Phil Hughes circa 2011 to these kids……(or at least Cash was)
Cashman said Betances may be their best pitching prospect ever.
Banuelos and Betances have gotten a lotttttttttt of hype, way more than even Joba and Hughes. Mo saying Banuelos is the best pitching prospect ever? Cashman saying all are better than Hughes as prospects who was the #1 pitching prospect in the minors?
StucKey,
I understand that and he’s one of the few I would consider but he’s a pitcher….therefore greater risk. I think Cano could be the best player in baseball over the next 5 years….and at an extremely thin position.
Also, there are these Spanish/Latin American fried dough pastry/rolls called bunuelos that could serve as an excellent food tribute.
They’re quite delicious.
With only 3 spots in the rotation not filled with big contract guys for the next 3 years, bringing guys like Nova/Noesi/Warren/whoever up and then trading them after they prove themselves should be a good move.
“Stuckey, do you not believe us?”
No. I just want to read it for myself in context.
SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
juan miranda likely to win #dbacks 1b job. hampton winning pen spot. hernandez pressing gutierrez for 8th-inning job.
It was high praise indeed.
I’m happy to have Banuelos, Betances, AND Hughes. Very nice.
“Google it”
Good god you’ve become fixated.
I googled “Cashman, Hughes, Killer B’s”. Came up empty.
Stuckey,
I understand that and he’s one of the few I.would consider but he’s a pitcher….therefore greater risk. I think Cano could be the best player in baseball over the next 5 years and at an extremely thin position.
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/20.....ash-talks/
Cashman said that Dellin Betances and Manuel Banuelos (called the “Mexican Killers B’s”) have high-ceiling, front-end starting potential and that they might be “Phil Hughes or better.” He said that if the Yankees coaching staff saw the kids they would think they are ready to contribute now. But then he let everyone down by saying that they are a year or two away.
Good god you’ve become fixated.
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To get the link for you, I would have to google it. I don’t have a bibliography laying around. Maybe try googling their real names.
Blake,
Not saying you’d be stupid or even wrong for your position, just happen to disagree.
It’s a legit argument.
I’d pack Robinson’s bags and drive him to the airport for Felix Hernandez.
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That’s effed up.
I’ve seen AJ as a mentor since I read about his relationship with Wang but not sure everyone else would see it that way.
Jerkface, I think Cash was comparing Phil now to the kids. Back then, he apparently had a really good curve and a developing change……and possibly threw harder. Right now both breaking pitches are works in progress. I wonder how he would compare them to Phil back when he was at his best.
I don’t have a link but someone asked Cashman what the ceiling was for Betances and Banuelos and he said something like….as high as Hughes….maybe higher or.something….he was just talking casually I believe
G.M. Brian Cashman said “[Dellin Betances] might be our best pitching prospect ever.”
Nobody’s fixated. It’s just kinda rude to ask for a link. Although you did ask nicely.
AJ has been a terrific teammate – even though he’s been an erratic pitcher, that hasn’t changed. His learning Chinese in order to better communicate with Wang was really an admirable thing.
I’m used to googling all the time, so it was easy for me to find, lol
Stuckey,
I agree there. To me its tougher to find a 2nd baseman comparable to Cano than a dominant starter. Felix is great but there are other pitchers in the neighborhood with him…..Robbie not so much as Utley seems to be fading.
I think asking for a link is fine, when the person has it on hand. Like posting something from an article they just read or something.
Here you go, stuckey:
http://tinyurl.com/64wv7za
Hughes has a big ceiling….he won 18 games last year pretty much with his fastball command. If he refines his secondary stuff and gains experience then he could be one.of the best in the game.
They can have banuelos work out of the pen for a while,then stretch him out,bring him up for good.
Not sure if that would be a good idea though.
I should clarify. Asking for a link as a counterpoint is kinda rude.
One prominent poster here used to do it all the time.
I finally found time to read through the Spring Training program I picked up, its a good read this year. What intrigued me is that they have 5 pages of the 40 man roster and each page has small headshots of everyone on the 40 man all arranged around a bigger picture of someone, usually a big name. This year Jeter and Arod aren’t one of the bigger shots but Ivan Nova is, just something I found interesting. Here’s a pic if you don’t know what I’m talking about.
http://s1039.photobucket.com/a.....S5qcGc.jpg
“One prominent poster here used to do it all the time.”
Link?
I like Justin Maxwell.
(that was required, right?)
“He said Dellin has a “Felix Hernandez type curveball” and that both pitchers are top of the rotation prospects, both with “Phil Hughes or better ceilings”. But he cautioned that he expects both pitchers to stay in the minors for the 2011 season”
http://www.theyankeeu.com/2011.....sion-24556
Blake, he still has a pretty high ceiling, but it’s really time that he gets his breaking pitches working. The point was that it will be interesting to see how long the Yanks wait on him given the fact that they are higher on several other youngsters.
What do you think about the idea that Phil gets away with a lot of “bad” pitches in the zone because of the movement on his FB and that he’s in essence AJ-lite? I’ve seen this more than once.
“Ivan Nova had the best year in the system, but according to [Brian] Cashman, 6-foot-4 righthander Dellin Betances is the organization’s best pitching prospect. “He might be our best pitching prospect ever,” the GM said.”
http://waswatching.com/2010/09.....pect-ever/
All 528 of them?
Not that I’m fixated or anything!
So, did you shiw up to ST under your reporting weight? Hopefully you’ll be making frequent visits to the In-N-Out this season.
The Yankees wouldn’t ever trade Cano for Felix……..
As if they didn’t need more pressure
“Nobody’s fixated. It’s just kinda rude to ask for a link. Although you did ask nicely.”
Somebody is. And how is that rude?
I was asking people more familiar with the time, place and context of the quote where I could find it.
I don’t think I’ll be renewing the In-N-Out pledge this season.
But I have lost weight since October.
Betsy We’ll never know whether the Yankees would or wouldn’t. Cano is one of the best hitters in the game, and Felix is the best pitcher in the game, and very young. IMO, a second baseman is replaceable whereas an ace of Fellix’s stature is hard to come by.
“I should clarify. Asking for a link as a counterpoint is kinda rude. ”
Wasn’t a counterpoint.
I REALLY wanted to know exactly what Cashman said…
Sheeesh…
I was asking people more familiar with the time, place and context of the quote where I could find it.
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You can find it on Google
Betsy,
Hughes has much better command already than AJ ever had…..better and more repeatable mechanics as well. Im also not sure they “are higher” on the younger guys….I think they are high on all of them. I am assuming a 24 year old will progress and improve….
“SJ’s price is 2 dozen home made sugar cookies and 2 dozen home made peanut butter cookies. He’s authorized me to accept payment. I’ll make sure he gets what’s coming to him…I promise. We’re tight friends…even tighter than me and Randy.”
You might ask SJ if he would accept lemon cookies in place of peanut butter. I make some really mean lemon cookies. Sugar cookies I can do.
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“Trisha, just to make sure you caught my drift…one in the same if you ask me.”
Absolutely one in the same!
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“I’ve been saying fan panic is rarely rooted in reality for 2 years.
Yeah sure, just because I happen to be a condescending a-hole about it, it doesn’t count, right?
So not fair…”
If you’ve been saying it, it definitely counts. I’m not so good at remembering who says what so pretty much seize the opportunity as soon as I see it.
Apologies to you Stuckey. We all read it the wrong way.
Mr. Nick,
You’ll have a new ritual? One that’s easy on the waistline?
I did a secret AJ pledge after the all-star break and almost scored a sweet diet-book deal from Harper Collins.
A second baseman is easily replaceable sure…..if you want to replace them with Ramiero Pena. If you want an MVP candidate at a middle infield position…..then not really.
If you look at Betances and Banuelos, both undoubtedly have a higher ceiling than Hughes. Betances has better stuff and is huge. He throws a fastball that can reach 98 on a downhill plane and has a wicked curve and a change. Banuelos is left handed with maybe better control than Hughes and a curve and a very very excellent change up. It seems like most Yankee pitching prospects don’t break from the minors with well developed changes (Nardi is a curve guy) so that is special. Also left handed and throws 95 mph which is great.
Hughes, due to his mechanics, size, and control/command might be a better bet to reach his ceiling than both though. Which is the prospect game. A guy can have a huge ceiling but if he isn’t that likely to reach it barring massive changes then he might be less valuable than a lower ceiling guy with a greater chance to reach it.
Its why some clubs focus on college players, they have a low ceiling but a high floor.
Well, now that I’ve read some paraphrasing of it, it read somewhat different to me than originally described. My first impression of the quote was, “Cash clearly thinks the B’s have higher ceilings than he does – I didn’t make it up, he said it.”
The last part gave me the impression it was almost a shot at Hughes. Perhaps Betsy didn’t intend it that way, but that’s how it came off to me, unfamiliar with it as I was.
That now said, I think he was mostly praising Hughes, choosing him as a comp to a couple of very high ceiling prospects.
I came away thinking Cashman thinks highly of Phil Hughes, not that he’ll put him on the market because he has prospects he likes better.
Your mileage may vary.
Cano and Felix are both irreplaceable types. Pitchers have more impact on the games they play in but are more injury prone. Cano can help EVERY game on both sides of the ball but doesn’t control the outcome as much as a pitcher.
So it really just comes down to who you like better. I don’t think I’d trade Cano for Felix. The Yankees need all the young elite bats they can get.
2B are easy to replace. But not MVP types like Cano.
Losing Cano would definitely leave a void.
CC and the other very good pitching we have and waiting in the wings can fill the void that is Felix Hernandez.
You can never have too much pitching. You can never have enough ace pitching. You can never have enough CY Young pitching.
Behold, I just don’t agree…
Jerkface,
Good analysis….I agree.
Yeah, and you can never have enough MVP-type, Gold-Glove winning 2nd basemen
I like the Yankees line-up more than I like the rotation (which is a lot for both). And given the math (1 of 9 is 11% as opposed to 1 of 5 is 25%) I play the math and take the dominant starter.
m Of course, this is all just pure fiction. Of course, losing Cano would leave a void. But the return of a young dominant stud ace cy young pitcher is worth it, IMO
The statement doesn’t have to be a diss to Hughes, it was a compliment to all involved I think. Hughes was very highly touted, so saying that Betances and Banuelos have the potential to be better is special praise.
I read somewhere that Brackman had some really high door frames.
I’m speaking in relation to the Yankees current situation when I say I wouldn’t deal Cano for Felix. If they had another stud 2B on the way and a shortage of pitching prospects then I might think differently…..but as it is it’s the opposite.
Blake, it’s too easy to say a 24 year old will improve – it’s too general a statement, IMO. In other words, in order for Phil to take that next step, his breaking pitches have to improve a LOT. Now, I admit I’m skeptical, more about his curve than his change. His change, in Phil’s own words, will never be more than servicable, which is fine – but he absolutely needs that curve. I just want to see that he can throw it consistently…….. His tendency towards giving up the gopher ball is also not overly encouraging, but that I’m less concerned about.
I know he has much better command (or control, I have never been able to understand the difference) than AJ………there’s no doubt about that.
Jerkface Great analysis. When you put it that way, with the age of our other hitters, it makes perfect sense.
Better question: Would anyone trade ManBan and Betances for Felix? I would. Id take the proven commodity.
I like the Yankees line-up more than I like the rotation (which is a lot for both). And given the math (1 of 9 is 11% as opposed to 1 of 5 is 25%) I play the math and take the dominant starter.
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The math isn’t that simple. You could say that you’d trade Cano for Soria because 1/7 > 1/9, but Cano accounts for 10% of all yankee PA’s and he is providing great stats in those 10%. Felix would provide 15% of all innings pitched and likely do it at an incredibly high level.
The Yankees would be missing out on Cano’s defense which helps the entire pitching staff, and the only elite bat in the minors right now is Montero who doesn’t provide elite defense.
Ruby left the team to take an athletic director position at a Scranton-area high school.
I wouldn’t trade Cano for Felix given the makeup of the Yankees’ roster and mL system.
Jerkface, has Phil’s stuff diminished since he’s been in the majors. I know he never threw 96, but he was touted like he was going to be the next superstud, a potential future HOFer. He’s got nice stuff, but really nothing exceptional. I’m trying to see what others saw in him in the minors that got them drooling and I’m having a hard time.
I’m always loathe to trade position players for pitchers, since they can affect every contest and play every day while pitchers is up to the use of them.
trisha – true pinstriped blue March 10th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
“SJ’s price is 2 dozen home made sugar cookies and 2 dozen home made peanut butter cookies. He’s authorized me to accept payment. I’ll make sure he gets what’s coming to him…I promise. We’re tight friends…even tighter than me and Randy.”
You might ask SJ if he would accept lemon cookies in place of peanut butter. I make some really mean lemon cookies. Sugar cookies I can do.
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Trisha, if you make mean cookies, I’ll send them to SJ. He can share anything mean with Randy. I’ll keep the nice, good cookies for me percentage. If you can take the meanness out of the lemon cookies, SJ will just have to take me to court. I’ll eat the evidence.
Cano played 1393.1 innings at 2B last year.
Hughes stuff didn’t diminish. He was what he was in 09 and 2010 in the minors. 93-94 who can touch 95-96 at times. His ‘super prospect’ status is based on the fact that he gets a lot of swinging strikes and has impeccable control/command for a young guy. The kind that makes you think Mussina and Glavine as he gets more experience.
If you look at his K reels from the minors, he would have games where he’d K 7-8 dudes in 5 innings and a bunch would be on well placed pitches.
If any of his stuff is diminished its been his secondary offerings, injury really affected that I think. But his fastball is back to what it should be. Hughes beginning of 07, 09, and 2010 has a way different fastball than Hughes end of 07 and 08. I thought he’d lost it for a while…
“I’m trying to see what others saw in him in the minors that got them drooling and I’m having a hard time.”
Betsy, may I ask what YOU saw in him in the minors to make you his biggest advocate and defender at this time a year ago?
Stuckey, you read my comment wrong, period. What I said is true – Cash does think they have higher ceilings. There’s only so many spots to go on a staff – it’s fairly clear that Cashman views those 3 (though frankly I don’t think I’d put Brackman up with them) on a different plane than Phil. If Phil takes a quantum leap forward, then great – but if he stays the same or makes minimal progress, then yes – I think he could be traded. Cash, much as he’s protected Phil, has to be cold blooded about this.
“Stuckey, you read my comment wrong, period. What I said is true – Cash does think they have higher ceilings. There’s only so many spots to go on a staff – it’s fairly clear that Cashman views those 3 (though frankly I don’t think I’d put Brackman up with them) on a different plane than Phil. If Phil takes a quantum leap forward, then great – but if he stays the same or makes minimal progress, then yes – I think he could be traded. Cash, much as he’s protected Phil, has to be cold blooded about this.”
Having read this, no, the above is exactly what I thought you meant.
Hughes has a great fastball with tons of life….hitters were sitting on it last year and a great deal of the time still couldnt square it up. He may never improve but it’s certainly reasonable to expect a guy at his age and experience level to do so…..actually it makes very little sense to assume he stays the same IMO….
Jerkface, he threw that hard in 2009 because he was in the pen; last year as a starter, outside of his first 6 starts, he was really 91-93. I remember Phil the Thrill saying he’d increase velocity as the weather warmed up, but he never did. Granted, it could be because he was fatigued.
By the way, if Banuelos has better control than Phil, does that mean Phil’s control isn’t as good as it was or that Manny is just otherwordly?
Whatever, Stuckey – you’re the one who said I was taking a shot at Hughes.
I still am puzzled how Phil could (and he admitted this a few weeks ago) get so “arrogant” (his word) that he didn’t think he needed a change at all…………despite the fact that his manager and PC were telling him he needed it. I guess as mature as he is, he’s still a kid at heart – and kids can be stubborn.
Oh yeah, if I had any say in it I would not trade Robby Cano for anyone.
Jerkface, he threw that hard in 2009 because he was in the pen; last year as a starter, outside of his first 6 starts, he was really 91-93. I remember Phil the Thrill saying he’d increase velocity as the weather warmed up, but he never did. Granted, it could be because he was fatigued.
By the way, if Banuelos has better control than Phil, does that mean Phil’s control isn’t as good as it was or that Manny is just otherwordly?
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Manny is other worldly. Hughes had great velocity before he went to the pen. Out of the pen he was 94-96. His true fastball is 92-94. It averaged 92.5 last year, which is in the top half of starters.
Phil’s calling card is his pinpoint control. I’m sure there’s a velocity range where he’s most comfortable control-wise.
“Whatever, Stuckey – you’re the one who said I was taking a shot at Hughes.”
No, I didn’t.
I said by your description, I got the impression Cashman took a shot a Hughes.
No need to get on Betsy, we’re talking about if the Yankees emulated the Rays would they trade Phil Hughes like the Rays dumped Garza.
Manny is just otherworldly
Changeups are all feel….if he wasn’t comfortable with it then he likely didnt want to be beat on that pitch. He’ll just have to get comfortable with it and it sounds like he’s determined to do so from his quotes…..he knows what he needs to work on to take the next step.
Blake, I get that young players improve, but I admit that Phil’s difficulty with his breaking pitches makes me a bit skeptical. He could be a guy that never gets a handle on those…….could be, not will be. I’m not predicting anything – it’s why I’ve said all along that I’m playing the wait and see game. I also think he needs a 2-seamer; he just gives up too many HRs – YS really does not suit him at all.
I think the thing that separates Manny in the limited amount that I’ve seen him is the ability to throw all his pitches for strikes in any count….that usually comes much later.
GB – I have a great idea. How about I make you some unmean mean lemon cookies and sugar cookies too? I think SJ would agree that you work hard as his agent and deserve some cookies for all of your work!
Fan panic is rarely rooted in reality SJ, Stuckey et al.
Jerkface, I guess that surprises me because it never looked like he was throwing that hard. I’m not quite sure why I care when there are better pitchers than Phil who don’t throw as hard as he does, lol.
Believe me, I was not promoting the idea that the Yankees trade Phil, but I might consider doing it……..it really depends on how he pitches this year. If he makes significant improvements, then no -I wouldn’t trade him at all.
Phil gives up HR to LHB, not RHB:
17 v. 8
Fan panic is rarely rooted in reality. SJ, Stuckey et al.
Have to figure out how best to set up “my” new saying.
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Don’t watch American Idol but did when Fran’s niece’s friend was on. I have to say that Steven Tyler is almost as ugly as Clay Bucholz.
Stuckey, I don’t think Cash was taking a shot at Phil, but I do think he’s a lot higher on those guys than Phil – in part based on his year. I think Phil’s 2010 showed he’s a legitimate MLB starter. What I don’t think it showed was that he’s an eventual frontline starter – that’s up for debate at this point (which is fine). As I said, Cash probably still feels personal affection for Phil who was the crown jewel of the organization for years, but this is a business and sometimes doing what’s best for the team means doing something that isn’t personally pleasant.
Trisha Agreed on Tyler and Buchholz
Rich, either way that’s a lot of HRs…… He gave up HRs last year to some really weak hitters. That makes me think that it was probably sucky location -and since that can be improved upon, I’m not sure that the HR thing is a permament problem.
BeholdArNo ~
I still cannot figure out why a Mariners fan is on a Yankees blog other than to rub our noses in the fact that we did not get Cliff Lee?
I definitely try to avoid rubbing others noses in anything, not a pleasant visual. I’ve actually been around here longer than the “Cliff Lee saga”. I find it interesting to get the “rival perspective” – I also regularly read and occasionally post on an Angels forum. I usually only comment on Mariner-related content (after all, that’s what I know about) which comes up more than you would think (since most other fans consider the M’s pretty insignificant). But, you’re certainly not the first to wonder about my presence here … guess I’m just an odd duck.
Liddi? Really? The Mariners could have had Montero.
I guess you missed the ‘winkies’. Yes, Smoak is struggling in ST (but it’s ST) and yes Liddi is having a great ST (but it’s ST). Seems it’s not uncommon for fans to get excited when players do well in spring, but are quick to shrug off spring struggles …’t is our nature.
As for “fly, fly away”…
The late, great Hall of Famer will be sorely missed. Opening Day is going to be rough. I get choked up watching the Make-a-Wish kid run the bases … I’m going to be a sorry mess watching any sort of tribute to Dave.
I can more easily ignore her comments and subtle and often not-so-subtle digs at the Yankees than stir up crap.
Oh, well guess I just wasted a few comments, since you’ll be ignoring them.
But, just in case this one gets through – I’m not into ‘digging’ any more than ‘nose rubbing’.
BD, WCYF, SAS ~
Thanks for your kind words.
I learn a lot here, and on other sites, and I do try to be a good guest.
And, one of these days soon, I will get caught up on my blog. In fact, think I’ll start now …
Betsy
It matters because it is much easier to correct.
Phil’s HR spiked in the second half, no? We’ll see if he can stay stronger as the season goes on compared to last year.
RAB did something on his second half. The curve was the culprit, and he might been affected by fatigue.
“I don’t think Cash was taking a shot at Phil, but I do think he’s a lot higher on those guys than Phil – in part based on his year.”
Betsy, that’s pure conjecture, based on less on what was actually said (which I read as a compliment), and more of what you assume Cashman thinks based on your own evaluation of his 2010.
I’m really not interested in a back and forth on his Betsy (and I LOVE back and forths), but it seems this is simply rooted in the fact that your expectations of what Hughes stuff was supposed to be didn’t match what you observed last year.
Which is perfectly valid, but it mean everyone feels as you do.
trisha – true pinstriped blue March 10th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
GB – I have a great idea. How about I make you some unmean mean lemon cookies and sugar cookies too? I think SJ would agree that you work hard as his agent and deserve some cookies for all of your work!
Fan panic is rarely rooted in reality SJ, Stuckey et al.
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Trisha, that sounds like a good deal to me. God help us if Randy gets his hands on the mean ones, though. He’s practically unbearable as it is.
Hope all is going well and your squirrels and birds are giving you pleasure. Are they the gray or red squirrels?
Doesn’t mean.
Why would Cashman use a few pitching prospects in AA as a way to compliment Hughes?
I just saw Rosy’s post and definitely have to come to her defense and fast! Since I don’t spend a lot of time here, obviously I miss a lot of what goes on.
Compass Rosy is one of the nicest and classiest baseball fans you are going to find west of the Rockies. I have known and loved her (as a sister) for more than 10 years now. (WCS, can you believe it’s been that long!?!) Rosy/Lisa and I used to post on the New York Times baseball forum and we have shared our love of baseball, defense and pitching, and lots of other things. She is as loyal and devoted a fan as you will find. She has stood behind her Mariners and loved and supported them, through a lot of thin times. Rosy is a great name for her because she has optimism enough for the entire Mariner fanbase. Of course that is one of the things I love best about her. She is always there to provide us with information, but never ever in a nasty sense.
I’m proud to call her my friend and it’s a nice feeling to know that she totally understands my preferences for pitching and defense and totally understands my optimism no matter how bleak the picture may look at any point. She is a perfect baseball friend, a perfect friend and sister.
Rich, it is? Because there are fewer LH than RH?
Stuckey, it’s late and I also don’t want to get into a back and forth, but his comments speak for themselves. I never said or implied that Cash doesn’t like Phil…………but it’s like giving me a choice between steak or hamburger for my last meal. I love both, but I prefer the steak.
M, yes it did spike – but I would say starting with the Mets game in May, at Citi……..or maybe starting with the Sox game where he blew a 5 run lead. His curve is very good at times, but since it’s not consistent, it’s not what I call a good pitch.
Betsy
No, he just needs to give LHB another look. A change would help.
“Why would Cashman use a few pitching prospects in AA as a way to compliment Hughes?”
LOL…
I said I read it as a compliment. I didn’t say he said it for the sole purpose of paying Hughes a compliment. You and JF and trying way, way too hard at this point.
He cited a comp to illustrate how high a ceiling these guys had. Understand he wasn’t just speaking to those familiar with Betances and Banuelo’s minor league careers, he was speaking to more casual fans as well.
He choose Hughes to make the point of how good these guys can maybe be.
I read it as nothing but positive in regards to Hughes.
Rich, how good does it have to be? As I mentioned before, Phil doesn’t expect that he will ever have more than a decent change – will that be sufficient?
“God help us if Randy gets his hands on the mean ones, though. He’s practically unbearable as it is.”
“Hope all is going well and your squirrels and birds are giving you pleasure. Are they the gray or red squirrels?”
My guys are the gray ones and I had never even heard of a black squirrel until Doreen talked about them. Then one day I saw a black squirrel in my back yard! I couldn’t believe it. Just one, just that one day.
I seemed to have a lot more birds when it was snowier and colder. At least a lot of different varieties. I haven’t seen any cardinals in a while, nor blue jays! Don’t know why. Maybe they decided to fly south.
Stuckey, that’s a given that Cash thinks well of Phil…………but in the end, he still thinks they have higher ceilings than Phil.
Betsy
It doesn’t have to be a plus pitch. Just good enough to keep them from waiting on the FB. He could do it with a curve as well, but that would have to be very well located.
“You and JF and trying way, way too hard at this point.”
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What on earth are you talking about stuckey?
Rich, got it – well I think he’s got the makings of a decent change, I really do.
Phil’s ability to spot his fastball on days when his command is good is otherworldly itself.
I think the fact that he’s flying under the radar behind the back of the rotation competition and the emergence of the Killer B’s is a good thing for a number of reasons. For one, its now official that he’s no longer a prospect with “upside” and rather a major league veteran who’s going to be expected to perform at a high level commensurate with his ability.
I think people are underestimating what he may be capable of this year. I see him as a very real dark horse Cy Young candidate in the AL.
Trisha, it makes sense that Blue Jays, Orioles and Cardinals would go south in late winter before the baseball season. We can only hope they become Yankee fans. Maybe they’ll take a detour and dump on all of the red socks on the clothes lines around Fenway.
“but his comments speak for themselves. …he still thinks they have higher ceilings than Phil.”
If his words actually matter, he implied they MIGHT.
“or” has meaning.
But mostly the comments seemed much more innocuous in context that they are being given credit for.
“Trisha, it makes sense that Blue Jays, Orioles and Cardinals would go south in late winter before the baseball season. We can only hope they become Yankee fans. Maybe they’ll take a detour and dump on all of the red socks on the clothes lines around Fenway.”
How silly of me to forget where they’d be!!!!!
30 second chance points for the Mavs. Good grief.
This:
“Is it obvious that stuckey is driving me crazy today? I’m going to stop posting for a while because I am clogging the board with too much of my crazy stuckey rants.”
LGY, this is a game I just totally throw out. 4 games in 5 nights (granted, Dallas was facing that as well), a draining game last night – they’re on the road against a better team. The two days off will do them good -then back to work against IN. I think this was an aberration; they got the game they needed last night.
What do your disjointed and illogical comments about Derek Jeter and how to construct a lineup have to do with my last post?
Sorry, forgive me for not buying into the Knicks hype.
They don’t have a center and their bench is comprised of a bunch of guys who could very well be in the D-League. Shawne Williams and Bill Walker playing major minutes for an NBA team? Anthony Carter? Jared Jeffries? Really?
Team has plenty of work to do.
G-C,
I’m sorry, but your track record on Knicks issues don’t buy you a lot of cred on this topic.
Amare is not much better than David Lee, Bosh is way better than Amare, Melo is going to NJ, etc.
lol.
Need to loosen up those Nets googles.
What hype? That they are a dangerous team? That’s true, regardless of all those players you listed. No one is saying they are a title contender
Did he say that about Amare and Lee?
They have a ceiling as high as Hughes or better. Which means Hughes ceiling is the same or worse. Which means they are better prospects than Phil Hughes or the same type of prospect (#1` in all of baseball) which means they are more hyped than Hughes, etc.
the OR doesn’t do anything to diminish cashman thinks that they could be better, which means higher praise.
mel, I just saw your post on Compass Rosy. I never got the impression that people left her alone because she was my friend, but rather that people accepted her because she is a nice person and knowledgeable baseball fan.
“What do your disjointed and illogical comments about Derek Jeter and how to construct a lineup have to do with my last post?”
Your disjointed and illogical assertion I was suggesting Cashman was using the Killer Bs to compliment Hughes.
That’s a sign the fixation you acknowledged a few hours ago continues.
Thanks, ECS. Back at ya
I miss those NYT days…
Speaking of our “first loves” (pitching and defense), I saw a funny little blurb today re: the M’s top pitching prospect, Michael Pineda – they amended his ‘dimensions’…
from 6′ 5″ 245lbs to 6′ 7″ 260lbs (apparently, he grew a LOT over the winter!)
Phil Hughes fastball actually suppresses HRs due to its ‘rising’ quality. The problem is that he gets so many flyballs that he will simply give up HRs because of it, and that his cutter gives up plenty of HRs as well. If he can refine the cutter and work on getting more groundballs he could actually be above average at giving up HRs, instead of below it.
His curve really doesn’t get hit for XBH.
Could it freakin’ stop raining, please?
“David Lee is one of the best examples of not so subtle racism against white players in the NBA.
If he were black he would be considered among the best 10 or 15 players in the game, without a doubt in my mind.”
“Again, a great example of not so subtle racism in the NBA.
Amare in the past 2 seasons has not been any better than Lee was last season. Sure, he might be flashier, more exciting, and more attractive to fans, but in terms of on court production they are highly similar.”
G-C
That comment was about as straightforward as it gets and yet we’re dissecting it like it’s some tongue twister, lol. I mean, Cashman came right out and said basically they are at least as good as Phil and maybe better…
“Shawne Williams and Bill Walker playing major minutes for an NBA team? ”
The 3 point arc is the same distance for every player in the NBA and when the ball goes in the hoop it counts as 3 points for everyone.
What’s your objection to .443% exactly?
Rich, it’s annoying isn’t it? Lately when it rains, it POURS – I think the whole of LI is going to float away.
Jerkface
Do you think the handedness disparity in his HR is real or anomalous?
Prospects are all about potential. Simply inviting the idea that they are better prospects than Phil Hughes says it all. Its not a slight to Hughes, but it is heady praise for the B’s.
stuckey,
Have fun dude.
I’d be surprised if Banuelos (or Bettances) got more than a late season call up. The Yankees are pretty conservative with the their innings limits, and they don’t seem inclined to throw a guy 150 innings and then shut him down no matter what.
I personally don’t think total season limits are necessary and per game workload limits are much more important for a young pitcher, so if I thought Banuelos was major league ready, I’d bring him north. But he’s barely pitched in AA…
“Cashman came right out and said basically they are at least as good as Phil and maybe better…”
Okay.
So what does Phil Hughes 2010 have to do with that?
Do you think the handedness disparity in his HR is real or anomalous?
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Seems like its a real thing. LHB will have a natural advantage over Hughes. It would make sense that they hit him in the hardest. If he misses with a cutter its not going to go inside enough and they’ll wallop it, and a RHP playing most of his games in a LHB HR park is going to skew towards LHB.
His change up should help reduce that and the improvement of his cutter.
Jerkface, but why does he give up so many FB when he was a GB pitcher in the minors? Those are big “ifs”. The cutter is an ok pitch for him; I’m sure it gets a lot of swings and misses, but does that matter when he gives up so many HRs with it? A 2 seamer would work better for him. I do think the curve is a bigger pitch for him than the change- that’s the pitch he really needs to work on. I remember CB saying that Phil doesn’t get nearly the swings and misses with the curve that he should.
“Speaking of our “first loves” (pitching and defense), I saw a funny little blurb today re: the M’s top pitching prospect, Michael Pineda – they amended his ‘dimensions’…
from 6? 5? 245lbs to 6? 7? 260lbs (apparently, he grew a LOT over the winter!)”
I haven’t really had a lot of time to scope out different teams and their players – off season brought unplanned-for events – so tell me how the Ms are looking! Do you have some exciting prospects in your rotation? How do you like the current manager? Did you think what happened to Don Wakamatsu was fair, or was he a victim in the whole thing?
Betsy
It’s freakin’ beyond annoying. One of my fireplaces has leaked off and on for years. I have spent thousands to fix it. The latest thing was a new direct vent furnace that didn’t use the flue (the wide chimney had a fireplace and a furnace flue).
Tons of melting snow this winger, no leak.
Two inch rain last Sunday, no leak.
Today’s four inch or whatever rain, f’ing leak.
LGY, thanks, lol. I liked Lee a lot, by the way…………
Stuckey, are you referring to my comments about Cash comparing Phil/2010 as opposed to Phil/2006? If so, it means this: Phil was a super prospect in 2006, so if he was comparing the B’s to 2006 Phil perhaps Cashman would have a different opinion. I think 2010 Phil is a nice pitcher, but not anything special, so the B’s are more favorably compared to him.
Jerkface, but why does he give up so many FB when he was a GB pitcher in the minors? Those are big “ifs”. The cutter is an ok pitch for him; I’m sure it gets a lot of swings and misses, but does that matter when he gives up so many HRs with it? A 2 seamer would work better for him
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Because in the minors he had a great curve, which gets GBs. His major league curve gets ground balls. And his fastball was overpowering and well placed. His fastball has a significant ‘rise’ to it, which means that it doesn’t drop as much as a pitch should which tricks a hitters brain. He thinks its going to drop, and will swing slightly under it, generating fly balls.
Whats good about this is that Hughes gets a lot of infield pop ups, which are the second best result other than a K for a pitcher because its converted into an out almost 100% of the time and offers no chance for advancement.
He could could generate more flyballs by pitching lower in the zone. He could develop a 2-seamer. He doesnt need to exclude the cutter to develop a 2-seamer. Warren has a 4-seam, 2seam and cutter. They move in opposite directions. Its why Roy Halladay is so good (Roy has a 4seamer, cutter, 2-seamer, and curve). Hughes could have that kind of arsenal.
The cutter is a good pitch because it gets a lot of swings and misses, his problem is locating it. He shouldn’t ditch a pitch that most hitters are overpowered on just because it gives up some HRs. He should simply work to improve it.
I think he was comparing the B’s to Phil Hughes the prospect. Which he still is.
These so-called Killer B’s seem to be high-touted starting prospects, so they’ll probably end up in the bullpen like Billy Traber and Sean Henn.
trisha,
No, I stand by what I said. Had you not vouched for her from the beginning, people wouldn’t be so nice to her.
As for Cash’s comments, i dont think he was sending a message to anybody. He was simply gushing about his prospects. It’s rare for him to do, but other GMs do it all the time.
IF you want to read into it, then it actually was a compliment to Phil that he has set the bar that high.
Rich, that stinks – I’m sorry. This winter has been gross and dreary. Spring probably won’t be any better; I mean, spring in the Northeast is rainy. The ONLY good thing about the rain is that it washed the crud off my car (I haven’t washed it in months).
Betsy
Thanks. It’s the chimney from h*ll.
Apparently Arodys Vizcaino is ticketed for the bullpen according to that Scouting the Sally guy, don’t tell yankeefeminista or J Albert
SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
Worst eating day ever? Or best? C chip muffin, in n out burger, lemonade slushy, m and ms, chi style dog, dragon roll.
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When will Heyman die?
“These so-called Killer B’s seem to be high-touted starting prospects, so they’ll probably end up in the bullpen like Billy Traber and Sean Henn.”
The irony is, they just might.
Jerkface, I guess then that we have to work with Phil’s arsenal, which includes a rising FB. So if we accept that FB as a fact, then maybe you’re right and he does have to pitch lower in the zone. Early in the season, he didn’t give up a lot of deep FB – that’s why I don’t think he got lucky in not giving up HRs. I think the HR thing is probably somewhat correctable because if he makes better pitches, he won’t give up so many DEEP FB.
You’re right – he shouldn’t ditch the cutter, but I do think Phil picked it up quickly and looked at it as some sort of new toy. He shouldn’t use it as much – and he should expand his repertoire. I’d love it if Rothshchild would introduce the 2-seamer to him. IMO Phil has a pretty good aptitude for pitching and I suspect he could throw a a good 2-seamer. He’s a thinking man’s pitcher more than a flame thrower, so I see no reason why he couldn’t expand his repertoire.
Heyman = scratching a painted wall with your finger nails.
Jerkface, if he keeps eating like that, he might, lol.
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I don’t think anyone has visited that page for a while; I had to clear some cobwebs.
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mel, okay that may be true, but it is also true that she is a very nice person and knowledgeable baseball fan. I doubt that my vouching for her would have done much if she can on here and acted like Ruby Tuesday!
Heyman=gum on your shoe
Really irritating.
I’m amused by some of tonight’s conversations…..I enjoy the fact that the Yanks have some pitching prospects that have a real chance to be factors in the Bigs…..However to take Cashman’s PR comparisons are being taken to an extreme…….To go on and on about both of these guys and indicate or even consider them being equal to Phil Hughes is crazy……There in AA and to take this one step higher compare their numbers to what Hughes was doing at their respected ages…….When Hughes was Manny’s age he was throwing a no hitter vs The Rangers……Both guys have the potential to being good MLB pitchers and maybe more but lets not go overboard……..Betsy when he wins 20 games this season or next what will you be ragging about next ????
Has Heyman ever eaten at a real restaurant?
Come on pat m, you love to stretch ages. When Hughes was Banuelos age he was in A ball.
Hughes came up to the majors when he was 21. Banuelos was 19 last year and reached AA. Manny is ahead of Hughes pace.
“Stuckey, are you referring to my comments about Cash comparing Phil/2010 as opposed to Phil/2006?”
No, I’m referring exclusively to the “or better” comment.
“I think 2010 Phil is a nice pitcher, but not anything special”
Betsy, again, your position is utterly perplexing. I am not making this up. You spent the better part of the offseason and ST last year pleading with fans to give Phil Hughes the patience a 24 year in his first full year of starting deserves.
He exceeds ALL expectations, but your disappointment is obvious and apparently deep.
I’m honestly very confused why you don’t afford Hughes the benefit of what you yourself advocated strenuously just a year ago.
Pat M, we had a very good conversation here tonight – I’m sorry that you can’t appreciate it. Have a good night!
Face….Was he or was he not 20 years old when he was called up ????
Haha, WELL RESEARCHED and props, LGY.
At the same time, Lee was an insane offensive player last year. His performance probably won’t ever repeat itself, but at the time what he was doing was really damn close to what Amare was doing in Phoenix.
I have no problems eating my words though. Nor do I really mind that Melo went to the Knicks, because I think building around Deron is a far better solution for where the Nets are at this point in time.
Forgive me, but it’s just frustrating for me to have to listen to the entire tri-state area crap itself over the Knicks being four games over .500 after they’ve been irrelevant (and rightfully so) for a decade. Donnie Walsh showed exactly why he’s as good of an executive as he is by pulling them from the depths of nothing to relevancy again. I hope for Knicks’ fans sake that he remains involved in personnel decisions and that power isn’t being shifted to someone who coaches at Florida International under the table. If the Knicks can add some bench pieces and a reasonable center, they’ll be a serious contender in the East next year. Otherwise, I think you’ll have to wait for CP3 in order to make that happen.
Stuckey, I don’t think he had a great year last year… my opinion is no less valid than yours. I am not in the minority, I assure you – well, here I am, but on other boards, no – there is not this overwhelming enthusiasm for his 2010. I am not disappointed nor does any disappointment run deep. It’s just an opinion – that’s all it is. I’ve gotten killed for saying I think he’s going to be a solid #3 type pitcher, lol. Go figure- most pitchers would kill for that kind of career.
Bosh in his post game talked about man hug. What is wrong with this guy??
If the Knicks play the Heat in the first round that would a crazy series.
18 In-N-Out trips = a great year for the first full season as a starter for the Young Master.
G-C, well that’s how it goes and it’s too bad that you would begrudge a hugely loyal fanbase their excitement.
He made his major league debut on 4/26/07. Born on 6/24/86. He was what, 21?
I’m going to have to get a good night’s sleep because I already know what SJ is going to say in response to this conversation – and what he’s going to say to me, lol
20.
There are all types of opinions Betsy, some are just better than yours as they are based on an intellectual based premise presented with a sense of logic, as opposed to some gathering nonsense from other blogs and parroting that noise here ……
By many standards Phil had a great year. We’ll leave it at that.
About Phil Hughes, since I see him being discussed. This may make as little sense to some posters but I still see Phil leading the rotation in the future. I’m not going to be severely disappointed if I’m wrong, but I just can’t shake that feeling. I truly think it’s going to happen.
About Robby Cano – I would not want to trade Robby for any player. And I mean any player.
On that note I bid you a fond good night.
Ok, Pat M – I’ve had enough of your insults. Holy cow – you’re really unbelievable. Anywho, don’t bother directing any more of your posts to me because I will be ignoring them. You are truly a rude person.
G-C,
David Lee is a D’antoni system player dude. It was obvious.
I can’t believe I am saying this, given my stance on baseball statistics, but some basketball fans are nuts with their statistics.
Everything in the NBA, ever play, is dependent on 4 other guys on the floor. There is too much context and dependency in the NBA when trying to quantify things.
Amare was and always has been a significantly better player than David Lee.
I said it all last summer how much nonsense it was that David Lee was even in his stratosphere.
He wasn’t last year and he never was.
Amare is a superstar in this league and he is better than Bosh, like I said last summer as well.
Hugely loyal fanbase?
Don’t know if I would go that far. Can’t say I remember Spike Lee jumping up and down like a maniac and yelling at referees during during the Zack Randolph era there.
Although I’m probably a bad example. I watched probably 75 of the Nets 82 games last year when they went 12-70. Once in the midst of the horror, I actually turned down the opportunity to go to a Duke home game because I would have rather watched them (they were ~5-50 at the time) play on League Pass.
In baseball you have to go by their “age season”
It was Phil Hughes age 21 season when he made his debut.
Amare is not much better than Lee? That’s absurd. Lee was a stat compiler on a bad team. Someone had to put up points and rebounds for us. Lee did. Doesn’t make him good.
Deron has to extend in NJ for that trade to be worth it and a better move than trading for Melo.
Pat M. March 11th, 2011 at 12:50 am
Face….Was he or was he not 20 years old when he was called up ????
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He was 20, about to turn 21 in less than 2 months. He then quickly got hurt and did not return until well after his 21st birthday.
Banuelos has not turned 20 yet.
So rough equivalent would be Manny starting next season (2012) in the majors, just after his 21st birthday.
LGY,
Agree pretty much on all counts.
Its why a guy like Jason Kidd never got “Hollinger-esque” superstar credit for essentially single handedly turning a 26 win team into a 52 win team that got to the finals.
It is very difficult to quantify a player’s overall impact and ability solely by looking at a box score or a stat line. Basketball statistics, much more so than baseball statistics, I suspect are a far greater work in progress in terms of their utility.
LGY…..I’ll meet you in the middle, so Hughes was 1 year older in terms of season age ???
You really expected Knick fans (why mention Spike Lee, who’s just one of many) to seriously get like that? This team has been beyond awful for a decade and yet the fans still showed up at the Garden. I’m sorry, but they deserve a little excitement. This is a good team – not a great team – and there’s still some work to be done – but at least there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
Sorry for being blunt G-C.
Have a sore spot on this Amare thing.
People were killing him all last summer when the Knicks signed him.
Pat,
Yeah. Manny is entering his age 20 season.
I thought Betsy was going to get some sleep…
“Stuckey, I don’t think he had a great year last year…”
Which is fine. I have little to no interest in convincing you he did.
What I’m stating is a fact.
YOU spent a considerable amount of your time here (and I assume elsewhere based on your comments) a year ago literally campaigning for people to have patience with Phil Hughes and to expect him to struggle at times during the year due to his young status, 2009 spent in the pen, and past injuries curtailing his “development”.
You clearly were trying to get people to ratchet down expectations for what a 24 first full year starter could accomplish in 2010 and that some struggles were expected and necessary for his long-term learning curve.
Based on this (and I refute anyone, including you, who would disagree with my assesment of you position last year) I find your clearly bearish current stance on Hughes strange.
You’re of course free to deny it, but based on this, I find it hard to accept that you say Hughes didn’t disappoint you in 2010.
It is the only reasonable explanation for the disconnect between what you said about Hughe’s 2010 then, and what you’re saying now.
And none of this has ANYTHING to do with whether you think Hughes has a “great” year and everything to do with that fact last year you made it VERY clear you didn’t expect him to have a great year and none one else should have either.
Hughes spent his age 20 season in AA.
Manny is just a little bit ahead of him, because he is already in AA and has a good chance of making it to AAA this season.
LGY,
Don’t blame you.
I also never could have predicted the whole movement of USA basketball players to team up and form dynamic twos and big threes would actually gain traction. I think its a serious problem that could really jeopardize the integrity and competitiveness of the league, should it come to fruition. Initially the whole idea of Amare being able to serve as the foundation of a New York “big three” seemed silly to me. Seems its actually a real possibility, and not just in New York.
I really need to catch up on some sleep.
I have a really quick trigger with annoyed reactions today
Stuckey, I’m sorry – I can not get past a 5 ERA for the 2nd half and, I believe, a 4.99 ERA since mid-May. His first 6 starts absolutely count, but the remainder of the season ( a much larger sample size) also counts. I get that he had issues with the Jays, but every pitcher has their buggaboo. If you don’t count those starts, then you also can’t count his best starts.
You just want to pick everything to death. I SAID that he emerged last year as a legitimate MLB starter. Please tell me what is wrong with that.
Looking from the outside, it appears Betsy’s disappointed in certain aspects of his game.
Which is fair.
She’s also welcome to her opinion. But she is in the minority IMO. It’s almost a one-person minority. Not saying she’s wrong, we’re talking about opinions here.
Sis ~
Michael Pineda is definitely the M’s most exciting pitching prospect. Felix even cut short his interview after his spring debut the other day so he could get back to the dugout and watch Michale pitch (Felix is obviously enjoying his new role as mentor). It will be interesting to see what they decide, because even if Michael continues to be lights out this spring, there’s that whole service time thing, so we may not see him in the rotation until June.
As for the new skipper …
So far so good. By all accounts, Eric is a no nonsense guy who is big on accountability, responsibility and ensuring that expectations are known. The player seem to appreciate and respect that.
As for the Wak drama, here’s what I wrote at the time (and while I’ve moved on, my feelings haven’t changed much and I wish him well)…
http://tinyurl.com/28s3vb7
*Michael
Ok, so I think he’s more of a middle of the rotation pitcher than a frontline pitcher – what is wrong with that? Did I say he’s going to end up in the pen because he’s so ineffective? Did I say he’s a backend starter? No. For some reason, if a pitcher isn’t looked upon as an ace it must mean that you’re trashing him. That makes a lot of sense……not.
David Lee is a very good basketball player who due to lack of talent had to player a bigger role for the Knicks than he does for the Warriors.
Amare Stoudemire is better.
Not sure if it’s any more or less complicated than that.
Lgy….Hughes was pitching at 3 levels each season he was in the minors never staying long enough to pay a months rent …..He flew through the system unlike anyone before him…..
M, up until someone jumped in, this had been a really interesting conversation. Interestingly, the tone turned negative as soon as he appeared…….probably because he can’t handle hearing anything that’s not super, duper, positive about Phil or Ian.
Interesting and pleasant, by the way……
Lee is a good basketball player. Amare is a superstar.
Amare is a top ten player, as is Melo.
“Stuckey, I’m sorry – I can not get past a 5 ERA for the 2nd half and, I believe, a 4.99 ERA since mid-May.”
No one is asking you too.
“If you don’t count those starts, then you also can’t count his best starts.”
No argument.
“You just want to pick everything to death.”
Betsy, this wasn’t something you once said. I’m talking about something you not only said often, but were very passionate about.
” I SAID that he emerged last year as a legitimate MLB starter. Please tell me what is wrong with that.”
Nothing.
Betsy, you need to TRY to understand the point I’m making. I have ZERO interest in your current assessment of Phil Hughes and his potential. You are entirely welcome to it.
I’ll be even more direct.
A year ago you preached patience and realistic expectations for Hughes in 2010, and for people NOT to expect a fully-formed ace outta the gate.
In my mind, he had not only the sort of year you predicated he would, but in my mind did better.
So a perfectly fair question based solely on the volume of your Hughes campaign last year was give us some sense of what you were expecting Hughes to do in 2010 that would cause you to follow your own advice?
Pat M.
How are you doing tonight?
Will Baneolos (sp?) be ready to pitch in the majors this season? I know he has an innings problem, but if he continues to be a phenom then what?
Not opposed to super duper comments, I just get a headache like many here with the repetitive noise that that your transmit here,,,,,,It borders insanity You fill the pages / screens with junk that falls to present merit of any type…..So tell us Betsy, what to you project for him in 2011 ??? 5 wins, 15 wins closer to 20 wins like last season…..Take a stand and let go of the foul rhetoric that has become you
Stuckey,
No unpleasantness intended here, but it is amazing to me how much you can say and type in one day.
By mistake I left LoHud and had to reload it. I was surprised by how much Chad wrote in one day, and he is being paid. You are a match for him.
SAS……The way the club appears to be constructed, I don’t think he’ll be coming to The Bronx unless certain elements fail for the big club……He could be a name come next spring or if he’s needed to stop a leak in The Bronx
Lgy….Hughes was pitching at 3 levels each season he was in the minors never staying long enough to pay a months rent …..He flew through the system unlike anyone before him…..
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So has Banuelos! They are both excellent prospects, my thoughts on hughes are well known. He is a good pitcher who is only going to improve.
SAS,
Only the tip of the iceberg.
Writing online is what I do.
These missives are mere mints after a meal to cleanse the pallet.
Pat M.
You know I respect your opinion. That is pretty much what I figured. It is exciting to think about these young guys in the near future, but I will miss ‘my old guys’ as they are called here.
We join your time zone Saturday night.
Hearing about that freak accident that happened at the braves game yesterday has me freaking out already about the seat I got for the game next wednesday. I’m thinking of borrowing a football helmet to wear in case a ball comes at me. I’m probably going to be anxious the whole game.
Will Baneolos (sp?) be ready to pitch in the majors this season?
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He is apparently ready *now* , but they have to worry about innings. If they limited most of his minor league outings to 5 innings and then called him up they could stretch him past the 150 mark. The Red Sox did it with Lester (having a huge jump in innings) if I recall.
m….You’re one of the brighter members here so I;m confident that you can distinguish between an off the fall OPINION and then appreciate a well thought out suggestion that makes sense and has a vein of logic attached to it…….Hiding behind the opinion facade is a cop-out and it gets real old, so old it becomes stale……
Stuckey,
Now it makes more sense. Because I have a terrible back situation, I type from a semi-prone position so I make a million typing errors.
Jerkface,
Lester got cancer if I recall correctly.
I love this blog and this is a good article:
http://itsaboutthemoney.net/ar.....m-the-nfl/
It also has links to a bunch of articles they wrote about a salary cap in baseball (basically its not gonna work)
m…that was meant to read ” off the wall”
Three smart and savvy guys on here, can you tell me where I can find which pitchers are starter, relief and closers? I have been using ESPN, but if it is there I don’t know where.
I signed up to do fantasy baseball, and it is simply amazing how many players I don’t know.
The only way for Banuelos or Betances to pitch in NY and stay within there limits is for Trenton to go to a 6 man rotation and both get 24 starts at 6 innings a piece. It would build the endurance and keep them pitching all season. It’s only a 140 game season, plus playoffs. Just makes little sense to push them much beyond that limit. Next season, both will be on a 175-180 innings limit, much as Hughes was in 2010.
Good read Face…..Makes sense as to the salary cap…
No offense, but if Melo and Amare are 2, add in Kobe, LeBron, and Wade then that leaves 5 spots for the rest of the league?
I think you have to include Durant. In the near future Blake and Rose will have to be included. Love is not a superstar, but he is playing at a top ten level.
It’s hard to come up with a list, when you start putting pencil to paper.
m,
You too could tell me if you know. I forget it is early for you.
Dwight Howard makes it 6, so four spots for the rest of the league.
He loved the (young) Phil Hughes too:
http://www.cokemachineglow.com/images/8997.jpg
GB,
I thought you were snoozing. Thanks for your input. I am struggling with the fantasy baseball, and I don’t want to leave it to the computer. I was reading about different teams most of the evening. If I didn’t know a name or they weren’t be paid more than the minimum, I skipped them.
Some teams are dreadful.
Nick in SF….I took a beating tonight with UCLA….Now I’m begging for the Huskies to bail me out……You are a man with a deep sense of humor
SAS, are you looking for ML starters and relievers?
http://itsaboutthemoney.net/ar.....g-is-dead/
SAS
Go to the store and pick up a fantasy baseball guide, make sure its a good one because that means it breaks it down between the type of pitcher. Some even have them numbered from best to worst for every position. I think I’m just going to set mine to autodraft if I can so I can’t blame myself when I can’t win.
GB,
Yes, I need a lot of them since I have to fill out a roster with 13 others doing the same. It is surprising how many pitchers each team has on their 40 man roster. There is even a Mike Stanton who is a rookie I think.
Oh, I meant to look and didn’t, but you know about the minors, does Romine have a brother in the minors. I have to check tomorrow if you don’t know. I am too lazy now.
tyanks,
I assume you mean a book store. I will go tomorrow to Borders and hope the one near me isn’t closing. Actually, nothing is near me here in AZ. I looked at the supermarket for a fantasy magazine of some sort…no luck.
that would be *fantasy BASEBALL magazine*
Too bad the Knicks got waxed tonight. They are going nowhere this year. Maybe next year if they ditch Isiah.
Romine’s brother Andrew plays for the Angels and has a little ML experience at shortstop.
Here’s all of the pitchers, starting with most saves. you can que down from there. If you lose the spot, just go to top and make sure you click non-qualified
“No offense, but if Melo and Amare are 2, add in Kobe, LeBron, and Wade then that leaves 5 spots for the rest of the league?
I think you have to include Durant. In the near future Blake and Rose will have to be included. Love is not a superstar, but he is playing at a top ten level.”
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“Dwight Howard makes it 6, so four spots for the rest of the league.”
In no particular order:
Kobe
Howard
LeBron
Wade
Deron Williams
Garnett
Rose
Nowitzki
Melo
Amare
Griffin
So 11.
Durant
So 12
Hearing about that freak accident that happened at the braves game yesterday has me freaking out already about the seat I got for the game next wednesday.
Pretty scary…
Franklin Gutierrez has left camp to fly to Florida with his wife to be with her father, Luis Salazar. Salazar, who is a minor league manager in the Braves organization, is being treated in an Orlando hospital after being hit in the face by a Brian McCann-hit ball. According to reports, Salazar suffered facial fractures and possible eye injuries but thankfully there was no brain damage.
Stay alert, tyanks!
Gasol
Paul
Garnett’s no longer top 10. Injuries and age. Rondo is currently the best and most integral part of that team.
Oh, you want from all team forty man rosters? Try this list, SAS
http://sports.espn.go.com/fant.....1rppreview
This might be better to use
Gasol is a great player but not a superstar. Him and Bosh are on that next level.
CP3 has been slipping this year. Lacking some of his explosiveness.
Agree with you on Garnett though.
I disagree. Gasol is a superstar. Bosh is on the next level, I agree.
So 11.
I’m out.
Terrible tsunami hit Japan tonight. They have just issued a tsunami warning for the islands. Fingers crossed.
My thoughts go out to the people of Japan. This is a tragedy of immense proportions.
Get to high ground, waves looked crazy on TV.
My mom’s family in Japan is okay. My mom’s BF had just brought their sailboat in, he’s taking it back out now. She’s headed for higher ground because they live near the beach.
The noble japanese people do not deserve this.
I hope Yu Darvish is ok.
A Tsunami Warning/Advisory has been issued for the California coast.
http://wcatwc.arh.noaa.gov/
I hope Hideki Irabu is ok.
How are fat toads around water?
You know – tens of thousands of people are dead if not hundreds of thousands. It’s hardly funny.
I hope it’s nowhere near that number, I have no idea how many have perished, it’s just so very sad.
Hardly a time for exaggeration either.
Obviously I don’t think it’s funny.
LGY you are a jerk.
Only 8 people confirmed dead in Japan.
The Tsunami is going to cause most of the destruction, Japan is very well prepared for earthquakes.
Death toll will skyrocket when the Tsunami hits less developed island countries, but Japan has been doing well so far.
Here is a ridiculous explosion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUONsvegD-Y
Just so everyone isn’t too worried, Japan has spent a lot of time and research on creating earthquake resistant buildings. Its that damn Tsunami that is going to cause trouble
Good night all. Good morning to the Early Risers.
good morning early birds, and anyone still awake
Po made espn’s top 10 this am w/ his DP at 1st
Good morning morning people.
MTU – If you’re out there, hope all went well fixing your computer.
Al-
So far it is back from the dead.
Fingers crossed.
Horrible event in Japan. Distant consequences possible.
Good morning, morning people.
First, I hope our friends in all areas out west will be spared from the Tsunami. My prayers go out to all affected. I was just looking at some pictures – huge ships looking like toy boats.
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I like to think I’m a good mom, but I was totally taken by surprise today to learn, after I woke my daughter, she dressed and ate breakfast, that she does not have school today.
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That was the 5th largest quake on record since 1900.
Morning everyone. Terrible news from Japan. Pray for those people.
I see another Phil Hughes debate brewed up last night. Here is my take…..Hughes will be top 10 in the AL CY young voting in 2011…..and maybe top 5. I really believe that.
MTU -
Glad you were successful.
Nature is more powerfull than man, and this planet is still changing. The big volcano in Hawaii is flowing again, more than usual.
Unfortunately for most humans we tend to think in linear terms about the state of our World.
That things tend to happen gradually rather than catastrophically.
Things like Java, and Japan remind us of the truer nature of things IMO.
That Earth’s geological history is punctuated with many sudden, unexpected and violent events.
We live by grace and thru good fortune. We always hope that the roulette wheel of bad fortune will not hit our # in our lifetime.
Over long periods that # is certain to come up.
MTU -
Given the magnitude of the quake, and the resulting Tsunami, the death toll thus far has been relatively low, but any loss of life is tragic.
good morning all!
ST is officially getting really boring and i really can’t wait for real games to start.
just in case anyone is waiting for tickets to go on sale, tickets to most games are already on sale at stubhub.
In other news….our buddy Chuck Greenberg may be leaving the Rangers…..possible cause may be tension between he and Ryan.
Al-
I’m not saying to worry. There is no point in that because we never know when these Mega events will occur.
What I am saying is that to get the true picture of our Planet, present and future, one must realize that our destiny has and always will be shaped by extreme and unpredicatable forces.
To appreciate this I like reading Velikovsky whose books are the progenitors of that thinking, i.e. “Worlds in Collision and Earth in Upheaval”.
That is why I like to joke so much because our fate as a species is not in our hands though we think it is. Takes some of the sting out.
It’s gonna take a lot of luck for us to continue in the long run.
In the meantime, while we wait for the next Mega disaster, it fun to talk Yankee baseball.
In particular, just how great Manny and Jesus will be.
Isn’t mel in Hawaii? Or is she in California? I get confused. In either event, I pray that everyone is safe. They say the tsunami is hitting Hawaii right now.
Amazing how they can pinpoint where it is going to hit at exactly what time.
We have a sniper here in RI shooting at cars. It obviously pales in comparison to this news. The person is on the very stretch of highway that I use every day to get to the park where I walk. Obviously I have changed my route. And he/she is using a bb or pellet gun and now anything scarier, thank God. Still people have had their windows shot out and one female was hit in the eye.
Prayers that the tsunami warnings save a lot of life.
And to poke fun at both the sacred and the profane in equal measure.
Substituting an appropriate fantasy as required to keep one’s sanity, perspicacity, and PMA.
MTU,
Any adventures this weekend?
Im pretty excited about what I’ve seen this spring so far. Its early but aside from the youngsters….I have really liked how Alex, Teixera, Granderson, and Jeter have swung the bats. If they can just get decent production from the 4 and 5 spots in the rotation then I think the Yanks are gonna be very good this season. I love their balance.
trisha-
Those early warning systems are a godsend.
Fortunately, most Tsunami’s peter out and do not live up to their billing.
Blake, actually there was no Hughes debate until Pat M decided to hurl an insult at me. For most of the night, we were just discussing what to do with our surplus of pitching. It then devolved into a discussion of just what Cashman meant by saying the B’s had higher ceilings than Phil. It was all very pleasant……………for awhile anyway, lol
trisha -
Yes, mel is in Hawaii.
You be careful while you’re out, trisha. Too many crazies in this world…
Blake-
I promised Mrs. MTU that I would spend some quality time her this weekend.
If not she might just pull the trigger on a divorce.
I am very impressed by some of our youngsters.
Was worried early on about the backend of our rotation. Less so now.
We are excellent in every other way.
The Yankees are definitely players. They’ll probably surprise some.
We can adjust as neded at the TD.
MTU -
For all the hype about his hitting being his strong point, I’m a little concerned Montero has not as yet got it going. His D seems better than talked about, but where is the O?
Doreen, Trisha, MTU and anyone else who might be interested,
I am getting my new computer this weekend
My family got me the iMac and a wireless printer. My brother is coming over this weekend to set it up. I am so excited and can’t wait.
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Hope mel and everyone else is safe. Terrible about the earthquake and possible tsunami.
Al-
It’s early. Maybe he is concentrating a bit too much on his D.
The overall talent is stamped in stone. He’ll get it going.
Their may be an adjustment period.
That is to be expected N’est pas ?
trisha -
Sleeping next to the computer these days, late nights and early mornings. Take care on your walks, batting helmet and safety glasses.
the catching situation isnt as you’d like it going in. nothing you can do,but the way it was before cervelli got hurt was that jesus would be up only if he was tearing the cover off the ball in ST. now, he’s headed north with the team no matter how he hits. then cervelli will be available to come back 2-3 weeks in. if montero doesnt hit in the first 2 weeks he’s up, pressure will build immediatly to send him down as soon at cervelli is ready to return.
not the way you’d have drawn it up to bring jesus in that way.
on the other hand if he rakes out of the box, none of it matters.
Fran -
Good to see you and Doreen are doing your part in helping out the economy, lol.
Fran-
If I wind up needing another computer I think I’m gonna delve into the Apple world.
I have known several people who owned I Mac’s and they have nothing but great things to say about them.
Enjoy.
Fran -
Congratulations!
You will enjoy both – I know I am!
Take some of the One-on-One classes at your Apple store. So worth it.
So I wonder if we’ll be trading Jorge Vazquez this season. It’s kind of ridiculous that we’ve got this bat in the system that doesn’t have a real shot to make it to the team.
Thank you Doreen. It is more jarring than I want to admit to because when I was on my way to the Woods yesterday I noticed something on my back window and had a real visceral reaction until I was able to get out of the car and check closer. It turned out to be bird droppings but I wasn’t sure if it was a bb hole until then. I was paralleling Rte 146 going back home and looked at all of the cars going in both directions, realizing that there are some people who are totally out of choices if their jobs are anywhere that they are forced to use the highway. So far 70 cars have been hit.
The following is a true story. My best friend was on her way back home from being out quite late last year and she was driving on a road in our town that has a river on either side. The road isn’t very wide. She heard a real loud bang and thought someone threw a rock at her car. When she got home she got out to check and found a bullet lodged in the car. A week later, a car was found submerged in the water, and an elderly man was in it. They said he most likely had a heart attack and went off the road. Yesterday we were talking about it and decided it was very possible that the same thing could have happened to him and frightened him so badly that he did have a heart attack and then went off the road and into the water. I’m sure nobody would have thought to check the car to see if there were any bullet holes!
Very sick people out there.
wasn’t matt wieters’ hitting ability stamped in stone? his adjustment so far has taken 2 seasons and nothing’s happened yet.
just sayin…
MTU,
Surely she wouldn’t do sucha thing to a guy like you
Betsy,
I just skimmed through. I do think Hughes will have a good year. As far as upsides go I think floor is just as important as the ceiling…..if not more so. Hughes is at his floor right now to me…..if he never gets any better at all then he’ll still a quality big league starter…..if he does improve then he could be much more which is where his ceiling lies.
If Eric C makes the team, and then gets hurt again, I think Jorge Vazquez gets a shot this year. He can hit, but his D is less than you’d like.
# blake March 11th, 2011 at 8:31 am
MTU,
Surely she wouldn’t do sucha thing to a guy like you
Betsy,
I just skimmed through. I do think Hughes will have a good year. As far as upsides go I think floor is just as important as the ceiling…..if not more so. Hughes is at his floor right now to me…..if he never gets any better at all then he’ll still a quality big league starter…..if he does improve then he could be much more which is where his ceiling lies.
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As for upside, we’ve seen it. Those first couple of months from Hughes last year were huge. If he could do that for over the course of a season? That’s Cy Young nominee stuff.
Thanks guys.
Doreen, I will definitely check out the classes. The Apple store is about 15 minutes from here so easy enough to get to. And then of course, I can always ask you
Not really worried about Montero hitting. He looks like he’s pressing a little…..perhaps trying too hard to.make the club. He can hit…..always has. A few ST ABs doesn’t change that.
Fran, OMG that is so exciting!!!! I know you are going to feel like you died and went to Heaven, especially with your wireless printer. It’s going to be so much fun watching games this year because you’ll be able to be in front of the television with your laptop!
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I’m hooked to CNN right now.
Trisha-
Unfortunately, The strange days never really stop. There are just lulls in the action.
Your unseen shield will protect you.
That’s the way it is for us all.
We MUST try to laugh our way thru life if at all possible.
That’s our best defense.
We have to try our best to overcome.
“If Eric C makes the team, and then gets hurt again…”
thats pretty much what i’m expecting. its his history, unfortunatly…
Ys guy,
I had Wieters on my fantasy team after he was written up as the next best phenom. He did not live up to all the hype.
Doreen,
My wife and I chuckled at your “school day”. Now your daughter has the wholemday to enjoy, or if she is a teenager, to go back to bed.
Also, there is a very good chance Montero has never seen movement and location like he saw yesterday from Doc. There is going to be an adjustment period to big league pitching…..its a big jump from AAA on most nights. Folks need to be patient…..he’s not.going to.be Albert Pujols from day 1.
MTU – unfortunately I am like a walking sponge and tend to get caught up in these disasters and other things of the like.
Trisha -
Very, very scary.
Many years ago, in our last home in NJ, we were at a 4th of July block party at a neighbor’s home. The house we lived in was close to a wooded area, and there are deer, and we had noticed hunters at times going into that area. We got home fairly late from the block party and went straight up to bed. The next morning, we went downstairs and I ventured into the dining room, which was in the front of the house, and saw shards of glass all over the floor. We couldn’t figure out what happened, until we found a bullet casing among the debris. We just thank God that we weren’t home when it happened. My dining room table still bears a scar.
Blake, I agree – that’s why I said that last year Phil emerged as a legitimate major league starter. For some reason, some people just pass over that. I had posted an article from some blog about what to do with our surplus and it was an interesting conversation. That’s why I couldn’t get off the blog last night, lol
i dont want to say i think what happened to wieters is going to happen to montero, for one thing, motnero has about twice the minor league at-bats wieters had (but wieters was a ga.tech stud). but people on here have jesus’s # on reserve for being retired before he’s worn it in a game.
nobody is can’t-miss, it just doesn’t exist.
Ys Guy -
Its not if, just when with Eric, so, my thinking is Vazquez may get a shot. Its hard to keep a guy that can hit, and has power, down on the farm. If Vazquez can bring that full time to the ML level, he’ll be a big help. I’m also expecting Andruw Jones to take a big turn downward as the season gets past the AS break, that would be another opportunity for Vazquez.
Personally, I’m glad that Montero isn’t leaving all his hits in FLA. I have seen too many young players have scorching hot ST, only to come back to Earth the moment the Opening Day bell rings.
austinmac -
I suppose it’s better than forgetting she had school, right?
She’s happily watching “Spy Kids” at this moment.
Montero will be fine; even HOF players often have tough springs.
Blake-
The hitting tool is there in spades.
Montero’s D was the only real question for some.
I think he is in the process of making believers out of the doubters.
His potential is Olympian.
If he struggles at first so what, eh ?
see, there it is again, he cant miss, he’s too good a hitter.
i assure you, he can miss, anyone can miss.
I’m looking for a .270 BA from Montero this year, and 70 RBI’s. Anything more would be a plus.
After the way Posada and Cervelli caught last year, I’m not worried at all about Cervelli’s defense.
Betsy,
I don’t think people are ignoring that you’ve said that…..what’s a little tough to understand is why you seem so pessimistic about him improving after you were with me and others last spring warning that he may struggle some and to temper expectations.
I don’t care about AVG and RBI from Montero.
I’m expecting at least an .825 and possibly up to an .875 OPS.
Trisha-
It is in the nature of most humans to like to see trains wrecks and the like.
My advice would be to turn off the boob tube and good out for a walk
but then again, you probably expect me to say something like that.
Concentrate on tonite’s dinner menu.
MTU -
Montero struggled in AAA, until he adjusted, and then he tore it up. I think 6-8 weeks in MLB is what it’ll take for him to learn the pitching, and adjust. His second season should be a breakout season for sure.
Y’s-
Nothing wrong with being a skeptic.
The likelihood of a guy with Montero’s ability not succeeding is a lot lower than for most guys.
Could he bust ?
Of course.
Will he bust ?
Not so likely.
FWIW that’s my take.
That’s scary about the people shooting at cars. The neighbor boy behind us was shooting at something with his BB gun, like target practice except he didn’t realize when he missed, he hit my windshield. I have two dime sized circles on my windshield, it happened a few years ago and they haven’t cracked so I haven’t had it fixed. If my car had been moving, I wouldn’t have been so lucky. Crazy neighbors.
Some people are idiots. That’s why fights start.
i’m very confident that jesus will be very good. but i think people on here to a great extent have gone way overboard about him. this spring he’s the top dog, the big prospect, etc, but on opening day he becomes an unproven rookie trying to keep his roster spot.
i hope he does great but i assume nothing.
Later folks, have a good morning.
MTU I am really not worried about myself. I tend to stay out of harm’s way and really do feel protected.
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Doreen, oh my God that gave me chills. When you think about what could have happened…
Another true story. My sister’s best friend (all best friend stories) had both of her parents die last year, within weeks of each other. The night her father died she had been at home with her husband and another couple having dinner. Her father was in the hospital, but he wasn’t expected to die. She was going to go and visit him after dinner but got a call from the hospital that she needed to get there right away. So they all raced out of there. About ten minutes after they left a public works truck lost control and drove into her house. The house was actually moved off its foundation. Her kitchen and living room were entirely destroyed. I saw the house and the impact was so bad that there was damage in every room in the house but the rooms in the front got it the worst.
Nobody is can’t miss…..but you don’t miss after 2 weeks of spring training.
Give Montero time to adjust to MLB pitching. He’ll be fine.
Blake-
I have heard that Annie Oakley was practically can’t miss.
And Daniel Boone too.
SI_JonHeyman greenberg claim: outmaneuvered #yanks on cliff lee. reality: chuck annoyed lee camp w/ constant visits, late/lowball bids.
SI_JonHeyman Announcement on greenbergs ouster is forthcoming. #rangers
SI_JonHeyman chuck greenberg managed to upset a lot of people as managing partner but undoing came after he upset nolan ryan (sources) SI J H Ch k b i I
SI_JonHeyman Chuck greenberg is out as texas rangers managing partner after 7 mnths. Jeff wilson, ft. worth star-telegram, 1st suggested SI_JonHeyman Worst eatin
I can some up those tweets in one word: kharma
Rich-
Actually it’s takes two, “bad Kharma”.
“It is in the nature of most humans to like to see trains wrecks and the like.”
Actually I’m the opposite. If there is an accident on the highway, I am the anti-rubbernecker. But when there are national/world disasters, I don’t have the ability to turn off the television. I’m so bothered by them that I’m better being able to connect to it by watching the news than trying to pretend it isn’t happening because I know it is going to stay with me no matter where I am.
I’ve always been that way. Nothing I can give back, unfortunately.
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Those poor people in Japan. As expected, the death toll is rising rapidly.
Be good all. Talk to you later.
Don’t make Nolan mad in Texas…..Greenberg had a short and unproductive baseball life huh……well unless you count ticking a ton of people off as productive.
trisha -
Her dad saved her life. No doubt in my mind.
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I believe in guardian angels. Very, very much so.
Back years ago, again, while we were living in our other house, I took a P/T job delivering the Star Ledger. My route was a combination driving and walking route through a retirement community. It was very early morning work. And I was on autopilot, if you know what I mean. One morning, I was getting out of the car to deliver some of the newspapers and I forgot to put it into park. THE CAR WAS MOVING WHEN I GOT OUT. Somehow, I managed to climb back into the car and put on the brake. I don’t remember a whole lot, but I do know that I was taken care of. So many things could have happened – the car could have run me over, it could have run into other parked cars – I shudder to think. I believe my foot got run over, but I couldn’t swear to it. I had a scrape on my knee, but I don’t remember exactly how that happened.
Needless to say, I quit the job the next day.
MTU
At least you spelled sum right.
Rich-
I’ve been taking lessons at GB’s spelling Academy.
OK here is some happy news…at least for me! I leave to pick my son up soon for his spring break, and at least so far there is no sign of the predicted and dreaded “wintery mix”
Yay, kate!
MTU
I need to enroll.
Doreen-
They exist.
At least for some.
I have it from the highest authority I know.
The tsunami pictures are unbelievable.
SI_JonHeyman greenberg claim: outmaneuvered #yanks on cliff lee. reality: chuck annoyed lee camp w/ constant visits, late/lowball bids.
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What idiot would prize themselves as second place losers in a make or break trade?
Kate, sure you’re looking forward to having your son home. Enjoy.
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Doreen, I believe in guardian angels too.
I have a friend who lived in Sri Lanka when the tsunami hit in ’04. He was on the beach and was swept away. What kept him alive, was the fact he has MS and could not ‘fight’ the wave. He just floated along.
eboland11 Yankees vs. Braves at Tampa: Jeter, Jones, Teixeira, ARod, Posada, Nunez, Romine, Maxwell, Krum. Hughes starts
eboland11 Yankees @ Blue Jays in Dunedin: Granderson, Pena, Swisher, Chavez, Montero, Belliard, Vazquez, Laird, Parraz. Nova starts
Doreen, I absolutely thought the same thing about Patti’s father. And I also believe in guardian angels.
I swear to God this happened to me. One winter I was out Christmas shopping and went to a store I hadn’t been to before, that was right off a highly-travelled route. What I didn’t know is that the entrance to the store was on a one-way part of the route. When I was done shopping I pulled out but I ended up going the wrong way, and all I saw was a jeep heading right at me with nowhere to go because there were cars in both lanes. All I remember is putting my hands up in front of my face and bracing for an accident (automatic response I guess). I waited to hear the sound of brakes screeching and then an impact. And there was nothing. Nothing. Just the sound of my heart racing out of control. When I took my hands down, there were no cars around me, and so I backed into the parking lot, and when I was able to move, headed in the correct direction and went home.
No questions involved. Some angel had to have lifted that jeep off the road and placed it back on the road, past my car. I cannot explain exactly what happened of course. But the fact that there wasn’t even the screeching of brakes? Wow.
Hughes is finally being televised on YES. The Blue Jays game, also at 1PM, is at least on mlb.com radio. I assume it will be the Blue Jays broadcast.
Hughes’ secondary pitches will be much better this year.
Prayers go out to the people of Japan, Hawaii and elsewhere.
“I have a friend who lived in Sri Lanka when the tsunami hit in ’04. He was on the beach and was swept away. What kept him alive, was the fact he has MS and could not ‘fight’ the wave. He just floated along.”
Tom, that gave me chils. What a miracle that he survived, but what a frightening feeling that had to be. Good Lord.
I’m your LoHud guardian angel and I’m here to tell you that there’s a new thread ===>
Jerkface March 11th, 2011 at 12:37 am
Apparently Arodys Vizcaino is ticketed for the bullpen according to that Scouting the Sally guy, don’t tell yankeefeminista or J Albert
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JF, are you really going to trust these writers? Writers, who among other things, referred to Banuelos as a “solid number 4, fringe #3 starter.” Those guys are amusing but I wouldn’t put too much stake in their rankings. lol. You need to be more discriminating.
As for Vizcaino, if he develops his change, he will project as a high ceiling starter. (Think ace. He was ripping it up in ST for the Braves.) Same boat as Jose Ramirez but opposite pitch. J-Ram has the change, and needs the curveball. Not unusual for highly touted milb pitching prospects, many of them if you haven’t noticed, working on a 3rd pitch which will make or break them as starters.