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Postgame notes: Banuelos holds his own

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Mar 14, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Joe Girardi was asked tonight whether he knew many 20-year-olds who would be willing to throw a 3-2 changeup to Kevin Youkilis. When he said no, Girardi was asked if he knew many 30-year-olds who would be willing to throw a 3-2 changeup to Youkilis.

“How old is CC?” he said.

Manny Banuelos wasn’t perfect tonight, but he showed the Yankees — and himself — that he has the stuff to face big league hitters and get them out. He struck out Carl Crawford on a fastball, he got back-to-back ground balls to escape a bases-loaded jam, and he made Youkilis look bad on a 3-2 change that was his last pitch of the game.

“It’s a lot for me because now I know how I can pitch,” Banuelos said. “I have an idea how can I mix the pitches to the major league hitters. It’s a lot different, minor league to the major league hitters. Now I have an idea, how can I throw, what pitch can I use against the big hitters?”

Before the game, Brian Cashman made it clear that there was nothing Banuelos could do to change the Yankees plans. He’s going to open the season in Trenton.

“What we’re looking for, I’m not expecting for him to provide at this time,” Cashman said.

This was never going to be the night that pushed Banuelos into the big league rotation, and this was not the night Banuelos emerged as a front-line prospect. This was simply the night he got his first taste of the big stage. His command was off and he got into a lot of deep counts, but Banuelos more than held his own against a legitimate big league lineup. He showed some flaws, and he showed a lot of promise.

“I feel ready for this,” he said.

The Yankees will wait. They’ll let Banuelos develop a little longer and they’ll try to show some patience, but there is an obvious excitement about this kid. And that excitement is starting to spread.

“Let’s put it this way: Probably most people couldn’t pronounce his name before camp,” Cashman said. “I think everybody pronounces it now, accurately.”

Here’s Banuelos in the clubhouse after his start.

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Here’s Cashman on the field before the game.

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• Cashman wouldn’t give a number, but he said Banuelos will have a innings limit this season. No real surprise, just thought I’d mention it.

• Mark Prior did not make today’s road trip because he’s sick. Doesn’t sound serious.

• Cashman labeled his level of concern about Sergio Mitre as, “low.” Mitre tried to convince the Yankees to let him pitch, but the Yankees didn’t want to risk anything with his oblique. “Girardi had to do a little bit of a wrestling match with him,” Cashman said. “He almost had to get me on the phone.”

• Here’s Mitre’s take on the situation: “It was a little bit sore and tight (Sunday). They don’t want to chance it because I pulled an oblique on the same side last year. We’re trying to figure out if it’s related. If it blows out, they’re talking about six weeks, so hopefully it won’t. I feel pretty good today.”

• Joba Chamberlain’s injury is around his ribs, but Cashman said it’s technically in his oblique. Just like with Mitre, the Yankees don’t seem especially worries. Chamberlain felt something, let the Yankees know, and now they’re playing it safe. “Could it play itself into (taking) a while? That’s what we’re trying to prevent,” Cashman said.

• Dellin Betances hit a batter with his first pitch, walked two batters, threw two wild pitches and allowed both Boston runs. “A little wild,” Girardi said. “But he didn’t cave. To me that’s a sign he’s making progress as well.”

• Nick Swisher went 0-for-3 and his spring average dropped to .188. “I don’t get too caught up in numbers,” Girardi said. “I watch the way he’s swinging the bat, and I’ve been pleased with his at-bats. He’s not a huge concern of mine.”

• Eric Chavez didn’t have a hit today, but he did get another game at first base. “He’s been really good (at first),” Girardi said. “I’ve been really pleased with what he’s done. It seems to be a pretty good adjustment for him. He hasn’t been tested a ton, but every play he’s needed to make, he’s made.”

• Brett Gardner had his fourth spring double. It came immediately after Jesus Montero’s first double and drove in the only Yankees run in a 2-1 loss.

• Another hit for Jorge Vazquez. Of course.

• Ramiro Pena had a hit and stole a base. He said a few days ago that he wanted to use his speed a little more to show the Yankees he could help on the bases, but Eduardo Nunez also had another hit today and continues to be a significantly better offensive option this spring.

• Against his old team, Alfredo Aceves pitched three innings, allowing one run on three hits and a walk. Cashman reiterated that the Yankees did not have enough confidence in his back to offer Aceves a major league deal. “He’s got a back condition and we could not get him healthy, and I’ll leave it at that,” Cashman said.

• CC Sabathia and Bartolo Colon will throw 80-85 pitches during tomorrow morning’s sim game.

Associated Press photos of Banuelos, Betances and Swisher

 
 

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133 Responses to “Postgame notes: Banuelos holds his own”

  1. Betsy March 14th, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    Why aren’t CC and Colon pitching in a game – day off?

    Boy, Banuelos sounds like he has a real understanding of how to pitch

  2. tyanksfan36 March 14th, 2011 at 10:41 pm

    yankeefeminista says:

    March 14, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    tyanksfan36 March 14th, 2011 at 10:17 pm
    I think its safe to say that Betances was too hyped up tonight. I’ve seen him a lot before and I know he is better than that.
    __________
    Like I said not representative, so no need to overanalyze.

    —-

    Absolutely. I’d probably be hyped up facing the Sox too.

  3. Rich in NJ March 14th, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    There is virtually no reasonable trade that I would include Banuelos in. Of course, you’d trade him even up for some guys, but when you factor in what else you would have to give up and the salary you’d have to take on, I can’t imagine a trade that would make sense.

  4. MTU March 14th, 2011 at 10:44 pm

    The thing I did not really know about Banuelos that impressed me is how good his curve is.

    Another plus pitch.

    This kid is awesome.

    :)

  5. m March 14th, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    Who was resistant to Aceves getting surgery? The Yankees or Aceves?

  6. CB March 14th, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    Blake said it last thread – even more than Banuelos’s change up the pitch that makes you really think he’s special is his fastball inside to power hitting RH hitters.

    Don’t get me wrong – that change up is amazing.

    But the inside fastball to guys like Pedroia and Youkilis is off the charts terrific.

    Many veteran left handed hitters have essentially just stopped trying to come into RH hitters in order to avoid getting hurt.

    And when they have a plus change up they even have less motivation to challenge inside. Cole Hamles throws that way.

    And there’s Banuelos at 19 working both sides of the plate.

    Just remarkable stuff.

  7. Betsy March 14th, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    And again, a big, fat BOO to YES………..

  8. Betsy March 14th, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    Is the change so important? Some guys just can throw it in their sleep and for some it’s just not a pitch they will ever feel comfortable with; is there an alternative?

  9. CB March 14th, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    “This was never going to be the night that pushed Banuelos into the big league rotation, and this was not the night Banuelos emerged as a front-line prospect. This was simply the night he got his first taste of the big stage. ”

    Chad,

    This is a great example of why your so good at this job.

    Perfect summary of what happened tonight.

  10. MTU March 14th, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    An to those who said Manny just held his own tonite I disagree.

    He was squeeezed quite a bit IMO.

    He struck out two terrific major league hitters in cc and youkilis.

    Made Youkilis look sick on that CU.

    And he proved he has grit by working out of a jam.

    Maybe one or two balls were hit hard. Most weren’t squared up at all.

    If it weren’t for his innings limit he would be in the majors right now.

    Can’t wait till he is in the rotation.

    This kid is the real deal.

  11. MTU March 14th, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    CB-

    I disagree with part of Chad’s statement.

    Banuelos is ALREADY a front line prospect. There is no need for him to emerge.

    He’s already there.

    ;)

  12. G. Love March 14th, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    Glad to see Banuelos handle the Red Sox. You know those hitters wanted to go out there and pound him and send him to minor league camp limping.

    If he is this accomplished already, it’s going to be tough to keep him in AA all season. The same pressure to promote that was there for Hughes and Joba will be there for this kid health permitting.

    The only thing that isn’t possible is using him as a starter since I’m sure the Yankees have a strict innings limit on him although I would not be shocked seeing him starting in the Bronx this year if he is mowing down the competition. I wonder what the Yankees do faced with the choice of dealing talent for a starter or promoting this kid around the all star break.

    I know everyone preaches patience, but if his stuff is too good for the minors all bets are off.

    If he pans out he makes the need to acquire a starter next year less of an urgency.

    And I truly expect Seattle to call about him and Montero for Felix before all is said and done.

  13. Tarheel In NYC March 14th, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    Frankly, I’d be concerned if the Baby Bombers did NOT get hyped up to play the Sox. I think it’s good for them to get an early taste of the rivalry and, subsequently, the inherent pressure.

  14. CB March 14th, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    MTU-

    Take another gander at that quote. Chad’s point was to agree with you!

    ” and this was not the night Banuelos emerged as a front-line prospect. “

  15. Rich in NJ March 14th, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    “And I truly expect Seattle to call about him and Montero for Felix before all is said and done.”

    I’d say no.

  16. MTU March 14th, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    CB-

    I guess it depends on how you interpret it.

    In any case, I’m glad we’re on the same page.

    Good to see you around.

    :)

  17. GreenBeret7 March 14th, 2011 at 10:59 pm

    Tar, that’s why you almost have to give up two good ones plus Sanchez or take on somebody elses issues plus a good one. Who knows? He might just explode….or implode somewhere else.

  18. CB March 14th, 2011 at 10:59 pm

    Jack Z is in far too unstable a situation to trade Felix.

    That’s a move he could only make if he was completely stable there.

    He may not make it through this season. That team is going to be horrible again.

    And the last thing a new GM is going to do is to trade Felix as his first move. Felix won’t get moved until there’s only 1 year left on his deal and he won’t renew.

  19. GreenBeret7 March 14th, 2011 at 10:59 pm

    Short of being traded, DJ Mitchell and Brackman are more likely bullpen bound that Stoneburner would be.

  20. Betsy March 14th, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    Rich, so would I………….although I don’t think so. LOL Montero wasn’t good enough for them before, but he’d be good enough for them now? I wouldn’t trust Jack Z as far as I could throw him…….even if I were inclined to trade them.

  21. m March 14th, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    Seattle may call, but it won’t be anytime soon. They’ve got zero reason to trade away their young ace.

  22. Betsy March 14th, 2011 at 11:01 pm

    CB, then is it just too early to be talking about the surplus of pitching?

  23. MTU March 14th, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    At this time Banuelos is in a class by himself among Yankee pitching prospects.

    :)

  24. Rich in NJ March 14th, 2011 at 11:06 pm

    “Seattle may call, but it won’t be anytime soon. They’ve got zero reason to trade away their young ace.”

    I disagree. If they are willing to acknowledge that they can’t win with him, why not see if you can get four top young players/prospects for him? If so, that may give them a better chance to win over time.

  25. GreenBeret7 March 14th, 2011 at 11:06 pm

    I would think that tonight, Betances and Banuelos realized that their families was going to see them pitch on national TV. For Banuekis, most likely the first time that family has seen him pitching as a pro. Never recalled seeing them in Charleston or Tampa. Plenty of reasons for them getting amped up….and Boston on the road.

  26. austinmac March 14th, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    I thought Manny looked amazing. Can he show more control? Sure. But, make no mistake he has the right stuff physically and mentally. It is great to see. The camera angle on TV was not the best, but he sure didn’t get any calls.

  27. m March 14th, 2011 at 11:10 pm

    I don’t think the Mariners will call up the Yankees re: Felix.

    Iirc they didn’t think too much of Montero the first time around. :P

  28. CB March 14th, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    “then is it just too early to be talking about the surplus of pitching?”

    No team has a surplus of pitching.

    You can only have enough pitching to consider the trade offs involved in using it to support other areas of organizational performance.

    But that’s still not a surplus.

    Even all of these teams with “4 aces” don’t have a surplus of pitching.”

  29. Betsy March 14th, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    Rich, they’ve said very firmly that he’s not available……….and who’s to say he’d want to pitch here anyway? He chose Seattle over NY when he signed.

  30. Vineyard Yankee March 14th, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    ‘They’ve got zero reason to trade away their young ace’.

    ================

    They have all the reason in the world, their team isn’t very good and have several holes to fill. They most likely could get 3 to 5 very good prospects for him.

  31. Betsy March 14th, 2011 at 11:13 pm

    CB, I keep thinking of the rotation and how there are only 5 spots, but I suppose things will work themselves out – they always do. I’m trying to look 3, 4 years down the road for some reason, lol. In the meantime, let’s hope these kids have good years and stay healthy.

  32. Rich in NJ March 14th, 2011 at 11:13 pm

    Betsy

    Is there a better way to gain leverage?

    My point is simply that they have reason to trade him and that they could trade him.

    I don’t want him given the likely cost.

  33. MTU March 14th, 2011 at 11:13 pm

    Austin-

    The thing that really got me was how good his curve was.

    Did you see Rothschild shaking his his head on one that dropped in that wasn’t called a strike ? He couldn’t believe he didn’t get the call on what was a great pitch.

    I thought so too.

    Plus curveball to go with everything else.

    Kid’s a prodigy.

    He held the Sux down on an off night. Imagine what he can do when everything is working ?

    :)

  34. m March 14th, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    Well, including this year they’ve got three more cracks at getting it right. No amount of prospects is going to help their offense conquer that park IMO.

  35. West Coast Yankee Fan March 14th, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    CBS News – ” A Japanese spokesman says a fourth nuclear reactor is on fire following an explosion and radiation is now spewing from it. The radiation level is now elevated to a point where that may damage health. The exact amount of radiation being leaked is still unclear.”

  36. Tar March 14th, 2011 at 11:19 pm

    “and who’s to say he’d want to pitch here anyway? He chose Seattle over NY when he signed.”

    LOL. That was before we signed Garcia. Maybe he likes us now. :D

  37. GreenBeret7 March 14th, 2011 at 11:19 pm

    One guy that gets nothing said about him is Steve Garrison. He looked good tonight hitters, four outs and 3 were quality hitters, Gonzalez, Ortiz and Cameron.

  38. Rich in NJ March 14th, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    What’s going on in Japan is tragic and awful (although I think they will flourish sooner than most people think), but can’t we have one place to escape it?

  39. West Coast Yankee Fan March 14th, 2011 at 11:22 pm

    It was breaking news that seemed serious, sorry Rich. I won’t post about it again.

  40. Jerkface March 14th, 2011 at 11:22 pm

    The 4th reactor, which was offline for routine maintenance, caught fire somehow which may lead to a spike in radiation readings. What next a meteor going to strike the plant? The workers there can’t catch a break. Luckily still nothing that is going to pose any kind of global or long term threat.

  41. Rich in NJ March 14th, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    WC

    I’m just expressing my opinion. Obviously, others may disagree.

  42. Jerkface March 14th, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    There were no active fuel rods in the building thats on fire.

  43. G. Love March 14th, 2011 at 11:25 pm

    Frankly, I don’t want to trade Montero and Banuelos for Felix. I think at this point they are too far along and too close to the majors give up. That said, I would give up one of them for him if he were on the market and if you asked me which one I couldn’t tell you. I like them both.

    That said, if CB is right and Jack Z is on the hot seat he can’t afford to deal his Cy Young winner.

    However, if his job situation isn’t as tenuous as people seem to think I believe he will call the Yankees and try to raid the cupboards in return for Felix. Why would he do that? Those kind of deals where you obtain all young “studs” buy GM’s time. They then get to preach patience for the kids they traded for while holding onto their jobs longer. Not to mention, they save the owners a ton of money on a team that is already going to lose 90 games w/spotty attendance.

    If Jack Z is secure, he will call the Yankees. You’re talking about a hitter in Montero who can play C who can hit the cover off the ball and future top of the rotation LHP in Manny. He’d be dumb not to ask for them since his team is going to be awful which will only lead to his demise quicker unless he sells the owners on some 3-4 year plan with the Yankee prospects.

  44. austinmac March 14th, 2011 at 11:25 pm

    Few left handed starters throw consistently 93-94. Fewer still with the off speed he possesses. The confidence he has and the confidence he exudes to us all is unusual.

  45. West Coast Yankee Fan March 14th, 2011 at 11:25 pm

    (Sorry Rich) Jerkface do you have a link, that’s different from what I am reading.

  46. West Coast Yankee Fan March 14th, 2011 at 11:27 pm

    Rich in NJ March 14th, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    WC – I’m just expressing my opinion. Obviously, others may disagree.

    ****************

    I understand.

  47. Betsy March 14th, 2011 at 11:27 pm

    Rich, the only leverage Seattle would have with NY is if our pitching falls apart. I don’t want him at the price it will take to get him, either. I mean, what is the point of ravaging your farm system so that you can get one pitcher? What kind of team would we be able to field in the future behind CC and Felix?

  48. Betsy March 14th, 2011 at 11:28 pm

    GLove, if I’m the Yankees I lock that cupboard

  49. Jerkface March 14th, 2011 at 11:31 pm

    I’m getting a lot of my updates from translated NHK. Here is a link to an article which shows that the No 4 reactor had no active fuel rods in it (because it was offline for routine maintenance). But it did have stored, spent fuel rods which are still radioactive. So a fire is not a good thing, but its better than there being a fire in one of the active reactor buildings.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03.....clear.html

  50. Jerkface March 14th, 2011 at 11:32 pm

    http://yokosonews.com/live/

    This guy is translating real time if you’re interested

  51. m March 14th, 2011 at 11:32 pm

    He had a chance to turn Lee into Montero. I understand the sentiment, these kids have a chance to be great. I just think it’s a little Yankee-centric to think that Jack Z is going to pick up the phone and call Cashman and ask for Banuelos, Montero, plus, plus. Especially since he couldn’t had Montero without giving up Felix at all.

    They kind of need a frontline starter. I don’t think any fan would be happy with their GM giving up their ace 2~3 years before he has to.

  52. West Coast Yankee Fan March 14th, 2011 at 11:33 pm

    Jerkface March 14th, 2011 at 11:32 pm

    http://yokosonews.com/live/

    This guy is translating real time if you’re interested

    **************

    Thanks I am.

  53. G. Love March 14th, 2011 at 11:35 pm

    Betsy,

    I may agree with you. I still would dangle one of them for Felix, but not both. I honestly don’t think either is going to get traded at this point though.

    Their emergence allows the Yankees to spend big in other areas in the future seasons. I have a feeling Cashman is going to start laughing at GM’s who ask for them.

    I do hope the Yankees can turn some of the promising AAA into something good this season. They all can’t make the Yankees as it stands.

  54. stuckey99 March 14th, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    “What kind of team would we be able to field in the future behind CC and Felix?”

    Phil Hughes is a very, very good start.

    Then there is Brackman and Betances. Noesi, Warren, Stoneburner, and more.

    Sanchez and Romine, Heathcott, and Nunez.

    Yankees have also been known to do okay in the free agent market every so often.

  55. Betsy March 14th, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    M, I agree with your last point………..I just think this is much ado about nothing. The media isn’t happy with the “Felix is unavailable” stories and they think our pitching sucks. So, they put 2 + 2 together and got 5

  56. m March 14th, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    *He could’ve had Montero…

  57. GreenBeret7 March 14th, 2011 at 11:39 pm

    A more reasonable Seattle pitcher to target if Cashman wants one, would be Jason Vargas. Not a strikeout pitcher, but seemed to come into his own in 2010.

  58. Betsy March 14th, 2011 at 11:39 pm

    GLove, I think Montero and Banuelos are untouchables. Eventually they are going to have to trade some of these kids – or someone -but let’s see what kind of years they put together this year. Who knows? Maybe they’ll take a step back.

    Stuckey, let’s just say I disagree with you and end it there. At almost midnight, I am in no mood to argue with you or get into a long drawn out discussion.

  59. Rich in NJ March 14th, 2011 at 11:39 pm

    Betsy

    When you have the best pitcher in MLB, you have inherent leverage in any deal.

  60. stuckey99 March 14th, 2011 at 11:42 pm

    “Stuckey, let’s just say I disagree with you and end it there. At almost midnight, I am in no mood to argue with you or get into a long drawn out discussion.”

    Betsy, I suggest in the future if you ask a question, to anticipate an answer.

    Montero wasn’t untouchable for a 32 you old starter who was a pending free agent.

    Can’t see any logical throughline to conclude he’s be untouchable for an even better 25 year old starter.

  61. Betsy March 14th, 2011 at 11:43 pm

    Rich, off-topic, how about those Knicks? LOL I’m starting to wonder whether the trade was worth it. Not only is D’antoni to blame for their pathetic efforts against bad teams, but the players are as well – including Melo and Amare.

    Rich, that’s true, but the Yankees are not in begging mode. They may want him, but I doubt they are desperate for him.

  62. Betsy March 14th, 2011 at 11:46 pm

    Stuckey, he’s untouchable to me – that’s what I meant.

  63. stuckey99 March 14th, 2011 at 11:47 pm

    “Stuckey, he’s untouchable to me – that’s what I meant.”

    With this, I cannot argue.

  64. Betsy March 14th, 2011 at 11:49 pm

    Um, ok.

  65. Nick in SF March 15th, 2011 at 12:00 am

    Japan is likely to be fixed before the Mets are.

  66. BIG AL March 15th, 2011 at 12:05 am

    The Red Sux should be worried, if their A team barely beats, what was mostly subs and MiL players, what do they think is going to happen when they are facing the real Yankees.

    I think our young pitchers did well tonight, considering the pressuire they must have put on themselves.

  67. JK March 15th, 2011 at 12:05 am

    How scary is Banuelos?

    Plus plus change up that makes major league hitters look silly at 19 years old

    He completely lost his plus curve ball for most of last year and still dominated

    The list of Lefty starters in MLB with a fastball that averages 92+ mph…

    Lester
    Kershaw
    Liriano
    Sabathia
    Price

    ^^^^ THAT”S IT!!!!

  68. BIG AL March 15th, 2011 at 12:10 am

    Night folks.

  69. m March 15th, 2011 at 12:12 am

    To be fair there were a lot of subs and minor league players for the Sox, too.

    But we only gave up 2 runs on like 6 hits or something. Games will tighten up as more players are designated or released.

    Pretty soon Girardi’s lineup and Cash’s roster will start to emerge.

    The WC right now is Mitre, if he gets healthy then one of the other three go back on the bubble.

  70. JK March 15th, 2011 at 12:12 am

    Betsy,

    You do realize….

    1. The heat were a disaster for the first 2 months of the season even WITH a full training camp together

    2. Billups has not been able to develop chemistry with his new team mates getting injured 4 games after the trade

    3. They have had 1 full practice since the trade due to their schedule

  71. Rich in NJ March 15th, 2011 at 12:16 am

    Betsy

    I love the trade, I don’t like the coach, but it was Billup’s first game back and there has been an expected transition.

    It’s not about begging, it’s the we have to win the WS every single year crap and the potential moronic influence of Hank.

    I’m not saying they’d do something stupid, but the potential exists to some unknowable degree.

  72. tyanksfan36 March 15th, 2011 at 2:40 am

    Good morning morning people. As you can see I am a night owl so as much as I enjoy the morning crowd, I hate to wake up that early with you all. If you read my blog I have posted a few more posts(redundant, sorry) in the past couple days. Let me know what you think.

    Tomorrow(or today) is going to be boring without any baseball.

  73. CompassRosy March 15th, 2011 at 4:20 am

    A more reasonable Seattle pitcher to target if Cashman wants one, would be Jason Vargas. Not a strikeout pitcher, but seemed to come into his own in 2010.

    GB ~

    Jason was indeed one of the FEW bright spots last season…
    We’ve been holding our collective Mariner breath to see how he fares from here on out. He pitched a career high innings – 192 (more than double his previous high). The M’s brought him along pretty slowly this spring, and so far so good – 7 shutout innings.

    Speaking of holding our breath…
    don’t look now, but there’s another potential M’s starter who’s having a great spring – none other than Erik Bedard. I know, I know, I likely just jinxed him.

    Anyhoo, I don’t think Jack’s much interested in trading Felix…
    Seems he wants to see what shakes out of his own farm system before he goes raiding another. And, many are pretty excited at the possibility of seeing Michael Pineda in the rotation with Felix this season.

    Now, if the bats could just remember how to hit…

  74. Jerkface March 15th, 2011 at 5:14 am

    Now, if the bats could just remember how to hit…

    You should probably acquire some bats before making this statement.

  75. GreenBeret7 March 15th, 2011 at 5:54 am

    What a way to do.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/new....._of_s.html

  76. GreenBeret7 March 15th, 2011 at 5:55 am

    way to ***go***

  77. upstate kate March 15th, 2011 at 6:54 am

    good morning early birds!!

  78. Doreen March 15th, 2011 at 7:02 am

    good morning, kate, and morning people. :)

  79. GreenBeret7 March 15th, 2011 at 7:03 am

    You gotta love minor league sports promotions.

    Last night the Bakersfield Condors had “Charlie Sheen Night”. They sold Tiger Blood icees, the kids got a Charlie Sheen Mask On A Stick, and anyone that brought in proof of a clean drug test got in free.

  80. GreenBeret7 March 15th, 2011 at 7:04 am

    The Condors are a minor league hockey team

  81. upstate kate March 15th, 2011 at 7:07 am

    Hi GB
    you are up early

  82. GreenBeret7 March 15th, 2011 at 7:11 am

    Morning, Kate. Hope you had a good night and a great day today.

    Yes, like any normal idiot, I sat up all night on the computer looking for equally stupid stories. Unfortunately, the best ones are about stupid things that politicians say in speeches and interviews. Makes for a fun night, though.

  83. GreenBeret7 March 15th, 2011 at 7:24 am

    The voice of the AFLAC Duck and and Iago the parrot in “Aladdin” cartoon, Gilbert Gottfried was fired for texting crude jokes about the Japan catastrophies.

  84. upstate kate March 15th, 2011 at 7:29 am

    hmmmm hard to find anything funny about what is going on in Japan.

    I was disappointed not to be able to watch the game last night, as it wasn’t on espn as promised. Looking thru the comments I guess I wasn’t the only one.

  85. GreenBeret7 March 15th, 2011 at 7:30 am

    Kate, it was on ESPN2

  86. upstate kate March 15th, 2011 at 7:34 am

    not on my espn 2, we had bracketology instead

  87. Doreen March 15th, 2011 at 7:36 am

    GB7 -

    It was blacked out in some areas. I didn’t get it where I live, either. ESPN2 in my area had basketball coverage. Or, as I’m calling it now, Bracketball. ;)

    pat -

    If you’re here, thanks for the link. I was able to finally get to see some of the game. I missed Banuelos, but saw Betances having a bit of a struggle. Then I fell asleep. :)

    ***

    I think it really stinks that the Yankees/YES chose not to do whatever it is they needed to do in order to allow their fans to see them play on ESPN2.

  88. GreenBeret7 March 15th, 2011 at 7:37 am

    Kate, you must not have crossed your fingers, toes and eyes to get the game in. That’s what I had to do and it worked perfectly.

  89. GreenBeret7 March 15th, 2011 at 7:39 am

    They blacked it out to get max viewing of the Nets game.

  90. Doreen March 15th, 2011 at 7:42 am

    GB7 -

    But that makes no sense. I’m never going to watch the Nets. ;)

    Well, on second thought, it makes a little sense. I guess. But only very little. :)

  91. upstate kate March 15th, 2011 at 7:46 am

    Well it didn’t work on me. I didn’t watch either the Nets or bracketology.

  92. blake March 15th, 2011 at 7:47 am

    I hate blackouts. I yell at FOX every saturday during the season.

  93. Mell March 15th, 2011 at 7:49 am

    “I hate blackouts. I yell at FOX every saturday during the season.”

    Yeah, but you can understand FOX’s position. They paid for exclusive rights. Last night was just a blatant “screw you” from YES to the Yankees fans.

  94. Ys Guy March 15th, 2011 at 7:55 am

    francona wants to make sure the yankees dont rush manny b:

    “Count Sox manager Terry Francona among those impressed.

    “Hope he’s too young to make the team,’’ he joked before the game. “I think for this young man’s future, they should go slow with him. Very slow.

    “I actually mentioned that to [Yankees general manager Brian Cashman] the other night. I say it out of respect: they just need to go slow. You rush a guy like that, it will be bad.’’

    Shot back Girardi: “Kind of like they did with Buchholz and [Jon] Lester and Daniel Bard.’’

    …from extra bases blog

  95. MTU March 15th, 2011 at 7:56 am

    I’m sorry some of you missed the chance to see Banuelos in prime time.

    His command was a little off but other than that he showcased all the things that make him a top prospect and a likely future star.

    :)

  96. blake March 15th, 2011 at 7:57 am

    Mell,

    What does FOX gain though by blacking out games that they aren’t even showing though? I can understand why they’d black out the game they are covering…..but I don’t understand what purpose it serves to block out every game…..

  97. upstate kate March 15th, 2011 at 7:57 am

    espn showed a bit from the game on sportscenter this am, highlighting Banuelos

  98. YankeesNmore March 15th, 2011 at 7:58 am

    Brian Cashman is too stupid to recognize anything deeper than a birth certificate. The Yankees GM has an exception to the rule here, but he doesn’t recognize it.

    Performance and ability are proof of nothing. The only thing that matters in Cashman’s paint-by-numbers approach is that you must have x number of innings at every level and be y number of years old… Without those things, you couldn’t possibly “be ready.”

    Brian Cashman, you see, is too focused on guys with experience… Freddy Garcia, Bartolo Colon, Sergio Mitre, Mark Prior… THESE are Cashman’s kind of players. We can’t be wasting our time on a kid like Banuelos when we have studs like those looking for jobs.

    Past time for a change

  99. blake March 15th, 2011 at 8:00 am

    I like Tito….he’s funny and a really good manager.

  100. Mell March 15th, 2011 at 8:02 am

    “His command was a little off but other than that he showcased all the things that make him a top prospect and a likely future star”

    Fastball was a little up most of his outing, but he made some tough pitches when he had to. He threw a few change ups that were just dazzling.

  101. MTU March 15th, 2011 at 8:03 am

    Kate-

    Was there any commentary to go along with the footage, or was it merely brief descriptions ?

    Did they break anything down ?

  102. Ys Guy March 15th, 2011 at 8:04 am

    agreed blake, he seems like a good guy.

  103. Ys Guy March 15th, 2011 at 8:05 am

    this ynm person must be like 14

  104. Mell March 15th, 2011 at 8:05 am

    “What does FOX gain though by blacking out games that they aren’t even showing though?”

    Exclusivity and an audience, which leads to bigger advertising dollars. Think about it. Wouldn’t FOX suffer a little if the nation’s biggest media market and most popular team were drawing attention away from their game?

  105. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 15th, 2011 at 8:06 am

    I can actually feel my heart beating faster than usual as I am reading the latest accounts of what is happening with Japan’s nuclear reactors. While they have nothing to do with me here in RI, the earthquake, tsunami, and now this is beyond horrendous for an entire nation of peoples.

    And yet someone here is able to continue to stoke his passionate hatred for Brian Cashman.

    What a world.

    **********************

    I’m off to a full-day CLE but would ask anyone who believes in prayer to say some for the people of Japan. If we can ohm positive energy for the Yankees during games we can probably take a few minutes to send whatever positive thoughts we have in the direction of our brothers and sisters in Japan. (I’m sure that lots of prayers have already been said, knowing so many of you here.)

    May God bless everyone’s day.

  106. MTU March 15th, 2011 at 8:07 am

    Mell-

    He dropped in a few awesome curves as well.

    IMO everything looks the same coming out of his hand.

    I bet he was a little bit nervous.

    He made youkilis look sick, struck out cc easily, and got Gonzalez to tap out weakly.

    He was also squeezed on several pitches.

    In my book, that says a lot about his ability.

    They tested him and he passed with flying colors.

  107. MTU March 15th, 2011 at 8:11 am

    Also was cheated out of a called strike 3 on Scutaro.

  108. blake March 15th, 2011 at 8:12 am

    Mell,

    I don’t have the numbers but I doubt significantly more people watch the saturday Fox game because everything else is blacked out…..maybe they do…..either way I hope that’s something MLB refuses to agree to in the next deal. At least allow the games to be shown on mlb.tv online.

  109. Mell March 15th, 2011 at 8:12 am

    “He was also squeezed on several pitches”

    I thought he was on Scutaro’s at bat in particular, but otherwise the umpiring was OK.

    He did pass the test…..easily. If I’m grading him like a teacher, I’d give him a B+ on the night, with the high number of pitches required to get relatively few outs the only thing keeping him from a A

  110. upstate kate March 15th, 2011 at 8:13 am

    MTU
    it was just a short highlight of the game, but it focused on Manny…nothing in depth

  111. MTU March 15th, 2011 at 8:13 am

    Trisha-

    Have a safe trip. I’m out to get some Potassium Iodide pills today.

    Just as a precaution.

    I already did as you suggested with respect to the Japanese people.

  112. SJ44 March 15th, 2011 at 8:14 am

    Look who is back. Our resident moron.

    Every team in baseball has innings limits for their young arms. Every…..single…one….of….them.

    The most professional innings the kid has ever thrown in a season is 110.

    You now want him tomtnrow what, 180 this year?

    He’s 5-10, 160 lbs. Physically, he’s not ready for that workload yet.

    Yes, he’s only interested in “graybeards”.

    Yet, 40% of his starting rotation this year (Hughes and Nova) will consist of 2 guys 25 and under.

    Both of whom are healthy and don’t have innings limits this year.

    Do you even bother to think before you post?

    It has nothing with a “paint by numbers” approach. It has to do with common, baseball sense.

    Ask Mark Prior about being overworked too much, without innings limits, and what it can do to a career.

    Probably cost him 200 million in lost earnings.

    Save your moronic drivel for your own blog. It’s WAY past time for that.

  113. Betsy March 15th, 2011 at 8:14 am

    YES sucks- they showed they don’t care about Yankee fans; why on earth did they care about a game they weren’t even airing anyway?

    Rich, I dislike Hank intensely, so you and I are on the same boat in that regard. However, without Hal he’s probably impotent – except, admittedly, his mouth – he can’t seem to keep that shut.

  114. Mell March 15th, 2011 at 8:15 am

    Blake:

    I don’t know about that either. I can only assume that they require it for a reason.

  115. Betsy March 15th, 2011 at 8:15 am

    I didn’t hear (naturally) Cashman, but speaking of Prior, it doesn’t sound like he’s making the team. I hope he’ll go to AAA and do well – I’d really love to see him make it back to the majors.

  116. Doreen March 15th, 2011 at 8:15 am

    Honest question here.

    Banuelos says it is very different pitching to ML hitters.

    So they send him to AA.

    And he’s pitching to AA hitters.

    What is his approach going to be? To pitch “as if” he’s facing ML hitters, or simply to get the guy out, which he probably can do, if not easily, then at least without the extra thought that might be involved in trying to get out a CC or a Youk?

  117. MTU March 15th, 2011 at 8:16 am

    Mell-

    I thought he was going to settle down when he was removed.

    I guess they wanted to end his evening on a high note.

    You’re a tough grader. I give him an A overall.

  118. blake March 15th, 2011 at 8:17 am

    Mell,

    The reason I question it is that ESPN doesn’t do…..if it were a huge advantage then I think they would as well.

    MTU,

    That pitch to Scutero was actually strike 4.

  119. Mell March 15th, 2011 at 8:19 am

    “He’s 5-10, 160 lbs. Physically, he’s not ready for that workload yet”

    160? Maybe the camera does at some lbs. He looked bigger than that to me.

  120. blake March 15th, 2011 at 8:20 am

    Doreen,

    That’s an interesting question. There is a point I believe where a guy has learned everything they can at the minor league level. Don’t know if Banuelos is there yet but Im sure the Yankees POV is to make sure…..

  121. blake March 15th, 2011 at 8:21 am

    Manny looks closer to 180 to me but I haven’t seen him live…..does he look closer to 160 in person SJ?

  122. Mell March 15th, 2011 at 8:22 am

    “I thought he was going to settle down when he was removed.

    I guess they wanted to end his evening on a high note.”

    He was removed because of his pitch count. I believe Girardi said 50-55. Strike 3 to Youkilis was #53.

  123. MTU March 15th, 2011 at 8:22 am

    Blake-

    When Orel says the kid has three above average pitches one should take notice.

    Actually, IMO he has 2 ++ pitches and one above average (the curve).

    He has everything he needs to be success at the ML level.

    He is way more polished than the other B’s and shows a maturity
    beyond his years.

    All we need is for him to stay healthy and to continue to hone his craft gaining endurance as he does so.

    If all goes well he’ll be a factor in the 2012 rotation.

    Maybe even sooner.

    :)

  124. MTU March 15th, 2011 at 8:24 am

    That kid is a combo of teflon and silk on the mound.

    Smoooooth.

    :)

  125. Ys Guy March 15th, 2011 at 8:26 am

    people are getting way ahead of themselves. manny hasnt won a single game at aa yet and has only started 3 at that level.

    perhaps we should wait till he wins one before we decide he has nothing to prove on that level

  126. Betsy March 15th, 2011 at 8:26 am

    Is there no game today?

  127. Crawdaddy March 15th, 2011 at 8:29 am

    Yanks have no game today!

  128. MTU March 15th, 2011 at 8:29 am

    Y’s

    Don’t blame you for being a skeptic but I’m a believer.

    ;)

  129. Mell March 15th, 2011 at 8:29 am

    “There is a point I believe where a guy has learned everything they can at the minor league level. Don’t know if Banuelos is there yet but Im sure the Yankees POV is to make sure…..”

    Not necessary a learning issue, but he does have to build some endurance. By design, he’s been a 5 inning pitcher his entire professional career so far. I’m guessing his time in Trenton will be devoted to getting him going deeper into games and building him up to the point where he’ll be able to handle a regular spot in the rotation in 2012 and then into a true front of the rotation workhorse-type by 2013.

  130. MTU March 15th, 2011 at 8:31 am

    new thread ===>

  131. Doreen March 15th, 2011 at 8:31 am

    Ys Guy -

    I don’t mean to imply that I think Banuelos has nothing to prove or to learn at the AA level. I just wonder what the approach is, how they proceed with a guy who is as advanced as Banuelos is (or talented, for sake of argument)? How do they teach you to be ready for ML hitters in AA? What is the process? How do you get him to avoid what I think would be an easy approach – just getting guys out (which I’m assuming, going by what he himself said, is different in minors)?

  132. SJ44 March 15th, 2011 at 8:31 am

    Blake,

    The baggy uniform makes him look bigger than he is.

    I know his program weight says he’s 180.

    In street clothes, I think the only way he’s 180 is if je is wearing a weighted belt.

    He’s beginning to fill out. Just not there yet.

    Doreen,

    He will take his pitching sequencing to AA and refine it there.

    In the minors, you can always throw 2-0 fastballs and usually be successful if it’s well located.

    It’s tougher to do in the majors because the hitters are better.

    That’s one of the areas of development that doesn’t get discussed a lot…..pitch sequencing.

    It’s why often, the bottom lime results in minor league box scores don’t always tell the developmental story.

    There will be starts this year Manny, and other young arms, will be specifically working on certain areas of weakness. That may not jive with going out and just dominating with 1 or 2 pitches.

    Developing prospects always trumps wins and losses in the minors.

    It seems strange given the games “count”. But, that’s how it’s always been.

  133. Doreen March 15th, 2011 at 8:50 am

    SJ44 -

    So what you want to see is the pitching log, not the box score.

    It must be difficult at times for these guys to follow the program, rather than just get the guy out. Especially given that wins and losses do count – there is a championship series at the end of the season. And given that these guys are competitive or they wouldn’t be where they are in the first place.

    I would think that the motivation to get to the Majors probably helps some to keep a guy focused on the bigger picture.

    Sorry if I’m stating the obvious. Just thinking this through.


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