Spring Training Game 19: Yankees at Red Sox
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Gameday Thread on Mar 14, 2011 
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YANKEES (6-10-2)
Brett Gardner LF
Ramiro Pena SS
Curtis Granderson CF
Nick Swisher RF
Eric Chavez 1B
Eduardo Nunez 2B
Ronnie Belliard 3B
Jorge Vazquez DH
Jesus Montero C
LHP Manny Banuelos (0-0, 0.00)
Safe to say there’s no MLB track record here
RED SOX (9-8-1)
Jacoby Ellsbury CF
Dustin Pedroia 2B
Carl Crawford LF
Kevin Youkilis 3B
Adrian Gonzalez 1B
David Ortiz DH
Mike Cameron RF
Jarrod Saltalamacchia C
Marco Scutaro SS
RHP Alfredo Aceves (0-1, 3.68)
Aceves vs. Yankees
TIME/TV: 7:05 p.m., ESPN2
WEATHER: Very nice night. Little bit of wind blowing out to right-center, but nothing crazy.
UMPIRES: HP Jeff Kellogg, 1B Brian O’Nora, 2B Manny Gonzalez, 3B Mark Lollo
ON THE LINE: Just a few minutes ago, Brian Cashman said — once again — that there’s no chance Manny Banuelos will break camp with the Yankees. This is a chance to watch a young guy on a pretty big stage. Interesting and worth seeing for sure, but it has no impact on his plan. He’s heading to Trenton, no matter what happens tonight.
OUT OF THE BULLPEN FOR THE YANKEES: Dellin Betances, Romulo Sanchez, Mark Prior and Luis Ayala. Banuelos is getting all of the buzz because he’s getting the start, but Betances will be just as interesting to watch.
BULLPEN FOR THE RED SOX: LHP Dennys Reyes, RHP Bobby Jenks, LHP Rich Hill, LHP Hideki Okajima and RHP Jonathan Papelbon
LATE BIRTHDAY GIFT: Banuelos turned 20 yesterday. I have no idea what I did the day after my 20th birthday, but I can promise you it was nothing like this. ESPN certainly was not involved.
BORN A FEW YEARS BEFORE BANUELOS: Today is Scranton/Wilkes-Barre hitting coach Butch Wynegar’s 55th birthday. Curtis Granderson turns 30 on Wednesday.
UPDATE, 7:18 p.m.: The night starts with a nine-pitch walk for Banuelos.
UPDATE, 7:27 p.m.: Banuelos stranded two runners through a scoreless first inning. He struck out Carl Crawford, but walked Jacoby Ellsbury and Kevin Youkilis. Missed a few spots, but also got some bad swings and made his way through what must have been the toughest group of hitters he’s ever faced.
UPDATE, 7:46 p.m.: After loading the bases with one out, Banuelos got back-to-back ground balls to get out of the inning without a run. A chopper to third led to a force out at the plate, and a sharp grounder to third ended the inning with a routing 5-3.
UPDATE, 7:56 p.m.: Back-to-back doubles by Montero and Gardner have given the Yankees a 1-0 lead in the third. Montero drove his to the right-center gap. Gardner slapped his down the right-field line.
UPDATE, 8:09 p.m.: That’s all for Banuelos: 2.2 scoreless allowing two hits and three walks. He ended the night with a terrific 3-2 offspeed pitch (I thought curveball when I saw it live, but it looked more like a changeup on TV). He was a little erratic, but he also showed some flashes of everything the Yankees like about him, including the willingness to go offspeed in that situation against Youkilis.
UPDATE, 8:14 p.m.: Banuelos threw 53 pitches, 28 strikes.
UPDATE, 8:45 p.m.: Betances is a little bit all of the place here in the fifth inning. He hit the first batter, walked the next, and allowed a run because of two wild pitches. He got some help from a terrible bit of base running by the Red Sox. Anyway, it’s now 1-1 at the end of the fifth.
That is an interesting lineup. I wonder why it is the way it is.
what the hell not on in upstate ny new york
So why am I seeing Sports Center and not the ballgame?
I’m not getting anything but a black screen. wtf
im not getting the game either?
If its blacked out, YES should be showing it. If they aren’t showing it, thats messed up.
Its on NESN on mlb.tv
this is lovely..
thanks ESPN
Feliz has been lights out as a starter this spring. Looks like that is going to work.
Are we blacked out in NY?
For those with DirecTV it is on channel 209 ESPN2 in HD.
if it’s blacked out, it’s in error (because YES ISN’T COVERING IT)
I AM so pissed that this game isnt on BOOOOO espn 2
Blacked out on ESPN and Nets are on YES!?!?!? WTF
Espn2 in my newspaper. Not that I have it.
thanks for nothing ESPN. you @ssholes.
This is like when I tried to watch Rays games but I didnt have FSN south, and I was blacked out on mlb.tv despite not having access to the channel they were being shown on.
THRILLED I checked the game before I left. NESN beats a blank. Just switched stations and recording.
I think they may have said it’s on ESPN News. What channel is that on TWC in NYC?
LGBanuelos!
ESPN is the absolute worst. Wow. What sh*tbags
This aint cool.. why is Verizon Fios not showing this game???
THANKS FOR NOTHING ESPN
It’s on NESN (628 in directv) if you have the MLB package I guess… lucky me :p
Here in Central NJ, no game.
Stinks.
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Re: Manny making the rotation. Girardi was only saying you never know what can happen – sometimes circumstances end up dictating what you end up doing. It is not this game that will determine if Banuelos ends up in the rotation. It MAY be this game in combination with other pitchers failing or (heaven forbid) suffering in injury.
I expect, all things going as planned, Banuelos opens as expected in Trenton.
Girardi is a genius! Pena smacks a single.
The only time I can “celebrate” living in Sux territory…
Peña got a hit! : )
for fans who avidly follow the NYY prospects, this is like missing a playoff game.
No one here seems to know why the game is not on in New York. It’s on down here. We certainly had no warning that the game would be blacked out.
I really don’t like Ass-eves.
Bobby Valentine is not a good color guy.
this is horrendous. the program issue lists the game. i am so annoyed at the wwl yet again.
Help us Chad!!
My channel log says MLB Baseball Yankees vs Boston. Yet I’m watching bracketball.
Valentine is a better fake mustache and glasses guy : )
Kruk should replace Bobby V
Most people get NESN that get YES now so… check that channel…
blake i responded on that last thread, didnt feel like dragging it into the gameday thread :p
Swisher hits a smoked line drive and aceves gloves it out of the air thanks to his follow through. Traitor
signing up for my mlb tv now
Aceves robs Swish, liner hit right back to him.
for those watching the game, give us unfortunate souls updates.
What a terrible camera angle!
fyi, it’ll be blacked out on mlb tv in new york too…
AndrewMarchand
Here is the good news for blacked out fans, I’m going to be on with Bobby V, Shulman and Orel in the 7th inning. U get to miss that.
have it on ESPN 2 & NESN in CT……
is nesn on cablevision?
“Most people get NESN that get YES now so… check that channel…”
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how did you arrive at this conclusion?
http://atdhenet.tv/ <—–Can stream off there. Just wait for feed to load.
Manny B!!
well take solace in the fact that you don’t have to listen to these boston idiots call him “Bon You Elos” for the next hour…
great curveball
ESPN3 online has it too:
http://espn.go.com/espn3/index#
# jonathan p March 14th, 2011 at 7:15 pm
is nesn on cablevision?
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it is in CT don’t know about other areas check the web site
vinny – satellite providers give you most regional sports networks near you… I don’t think I was only getting NESN because of the DirecTV MLB package… I could be wrong.
ID lol, I am peeved at that as well : )
4U2NV:
God bless you, brother.
please tell me your real name. Will name my first child after you.
Ellsbury really spoiling a lot of good pitches.
Ellsbury
1-Fastball outside
2-fastball inside (swing and miss)
3-Curve (swing and miss)
4-Fastball outside (foul) 94 mph
5-Curve (outside)
6-Fastball (foul) 94 mph
7-Fastball low
8-Fastball (foul)
9-Fastball gets away , WALK
Curves may be changeups, but the angle of this camera sucks
Ellsbury fouling off a bunch . . . 3-2 walked him.
uhg… mute does wonders for NESN…
nasty changeup.
Pedroia showing off his AAA plate discipline…
The downwards plane Banuelos gets on the ball for a player his size is remarkable.
good block Montero….
Terrible camera angle, but Banuelos totally destroyed Pedroia on those fist two pitches
Pedroia
1. Fastball outside half strike (92 mph)
2. Hilarious swing and miss, change up down and away
3. Montero getting signs from the dugout, curve in the dirt.
4. ground ball weak to short, but apparently in time to get ellsbury at 2nd 1 out
Great play by Pena, Christ
Haha Vinnyb. I go by the name Rudy.
Banuelos would be a sophomore in college right now
CB,
yea it is.
Jeter could have made that…
Ok, I’m not sure if Jeter ever could have went that far to his right on a ground ball.
Banuelos looks like he’s pitching in August… just has that glazed look…
Weak ground ball left side by pedroia, pena grabs it in the hole and throws out Ellsbury at second. Ellsbury was probably safe.
blake-
The other part of that equation – amazing how a player that size can throw the ball that hard as a “tall and fall” guy.
# Irreverent Discourse March 14th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
well take solace in the fact that you don’t have to listen to these boston idiots call him “Bon You Elos” for the next hour…
Pretty bad, they really add an extra syllable to his name.
-matt- I agree, this camera is like looking over the SS’s shoulder. Awful.
mlb tv must be swamped, they’ve been processing my order for 5 minutes now
Banuelos keeping a good tempo. Slowed down as he should have, and seems comfortable in the stretch. Man this is cool to watch.
Manny Ks Crawford…goodnight!
Crawford
Missed first pitch BALL
2. Fastball fouled away emergency hack
3. fastball fouled away (94 mph)
4. Swing and a miss, but I missed the pitch and Montero drops it. Pedroia steals 2nd.
CB,
yea that also, with such as easy motion. Just threw it by Crawford.
Montero brought his stone glove today. Banuelos makes Crawford look silly on a high cutter? couldn’t really tell… 2 outs.
I hate Remy. He just called Montero “Montoiah.”
God, Pedroia just seems like such a douche
remy just called montero montoya and no one corrected him.
Look at how poorly the left handed hitters are seeing Banuelos’ fastball out of his hand.
http://www.phstream.com/2010/1.....l#comments
CB – was that just a fastball and the camera makes it look like its a cutter? i dont know what banuelos throws… someone fill me in?
Blake, you said that Phil’s bad post-season starts could be chalked up to him being beyond his IL – (or was it his previous innings high workload). If so, then why did he pitch so well against the Rays and Sox and Twins?
I knew it would be blacked out in NY
Youkilis
1. Changeup down and away, BALL
2. Fastball strike down and in (93 mph)
3. Changeup down and away, BALL
4. Fastball down, BALL
5. Fastball away, BALL
4U2NV
not listed in NY?
Betsy,
Answered you in prev thread.
Irrelevant Discourse-
It was a fastball as far as I could tell. Didn’t look like cutter.
It looked so different because he elevated the ball. He’s usually throws on a downwards plane so the ball up had different action on it.
manny does that leg kick after he throws like pettitte did.
espn said yes bought the telecast in my area (central nj) and subsequently decided to show the net game
at least that is espn’s story
and we’re stuick with it
2-0 count. And Gonzalez was late on the fastball. Remarkable.
Adrian Gonzalez
1. Curve in the dirt, Montero blocked it! BALL
2. Fastball down, BALL
3. Fastball FOUL (93)
4. Fastball inside, BALL
5. Fastball down and in , GROUND OUT (93 mph)
The Frito Bandito grounds out!
no damage, but a lot of pitches. how many pitches do we get from ManBan today?
I’m in Central NJ and I’m watching it on ESPN 2.
Manny just got some big dudes out in a fairly high pressure situation. Love it.
Imagine if he gets the chance to work with CC. Could be a great mentor situation..
Wow. If ANY OTHER 20 year old was in Manny’s position, they’d have sh*t their pants and given up AT LEAST 1 run there.
This kid is going to be a star.
AndrewMarchand
Go to ESPNNY.com. Game is on online there. Apparently. I didn’t know. Go there now to watch
I think they said 50-55 pitches….his command was off that first inning. A little too jacked up probably. Still got out of it.
Manny learned a lot about himself in that first inning.
# CB March 14th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
2-0 count. And Gonzalez was late on the fastball. Remarkable.
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not for nothing but he’s a little light on the AB’s…
So ESPN3 has been blacked out in my area.
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tom in NJ -
Who’s your provider? I have Comcast in central NJ and ESPN2 has basketball.
“Look at how poorly the left handed hitters are seeing Banuelos’ fastball out of his hand.”
I wish I could look.
To 4U2NV THANK YOUUUUUUU!!! You saved my night with this website!
# 4U2NV March 14th, 2011 at 7:15 pm
http://atdhenet.tv/ <—–Can stream off there. Just wait for feed to load.
Did I hear Bobby V bashing Crawford as the #3 hitter? And then the other guy starts waxing poetic about the rest of the Sox lineup.
I love that chaneup to righties….gonnna get him a lot of outs. They need to get Pettite in camp to work with him on his pick off…..or to pitch.
Watching game on espn2 and on mlb.com. mlb.com is about 5 seconds behind the t.v.
thanks Rudy !
Jerkface, thank you!
Geez, ESPN stinks……..although, I guess I’m glad I don’t have to deal with Kruck, Bobby V and company.
No player has ever been late on a 2-0 fastball before; Adrian played his first ST game on March 12. Remarkable.
A 20-year-old (college Sophomore/Junior at this point) just got through a scoreless inning against Jacoby Ellsbury, Dustin Pedroia, Carl Crawford, Kevin Youkilis, and Adrian Gonzalez
and that was on a not-great day, control-wise
i see cashman right behind home plate. maybe banuelos was distracted…
Doreen, I have comcast.
blake – lol I like it… lure him in under the pretenses of helping out the young lefty… then club him and throw him in the bus.
Blake, ok!
Ugh, watching on the computer? Not ideal…..
Did I hear Bobby V bashing Crawford as the #3 hitter? And then the other guy starts waxing poetic about the rest of the Sox lineup.
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Bobby Valentine hates Ellsbury and Crawford. Says Crawford is just a slasher and not the kind of hitter who should be batting third. Said Ellsbury isn’t a good hitter, should be hitting 9th.
man i hope chavez stays healthy. he makes this team better, no doubt. (fielding AND hitting)
To all the blacked out Yankee fans:
Go to Espn.com and click on contact us at the bottom of the page. They explain why the game is blacked out which none of us want to hear. I left them a little piece of my mind in the comment below. No log in required.
AndrewMarchand Apparently, YES holds the rights to the game and declined to relinquish them. Media reporters can cover this further, but that’s what I got.
ID,
i like it.
Bobby V just said that Crawford wasn’t the pure hitter they are used to in the 3 hole….which is true.
God, I hate seeing Aceves in that uniform
The game just came on in the NY area on ESPN2.
I don’t see any reasoning, but whatever – I’ll watch it on ESPNNY
ball isnt carrying there tonight.
Nunez and Chavez hit some towering flies to the outfield. Both got good wood on it, just not enough to hit the gap or clear the fence.
only thing worse than espn crew is red sox crew on the web broadcast.
No it didn’t, not in my area
CB,
Don’t know if I can recall a guy Banuelos’s size that throws the ball like he does….he throws like he’s 6’7″ and still generates that velocity.
Nevermind. It was on for a second, then froze. It is gone again.
and i think belliard should give up his number to montero (who will be starting the season on the team most likely).
Wow, screw YES
Valentine is the only guy qualified to make such statements… I like him in the booth. He must be truly nuts though since he STILL can’t get hired as a manager…
Kruk is an ESPN mouthpiece. He was a decent player but doesn’t come across with any “intelligent” insight at all.
I can’t even watch it on ESPNNY as I don’t have ESPN3
Clay Buttholes and Tom Brady must have the same hairdressers…maybe Clay can borrow Tom’s scrunchie!
got it thanx 4u2nv
Banuelos looks like Santana on the mound and the stuff is similar but mechanically he’s quite a bit different.
Thanks for the adthenet feed…..
Maybe the game is on The Ocho??
Betsy,
its on MLB.Tv but you’ll have to listen to the Rem Dog….
-Matt – you’ll be OK when you see what he does in it :p
It’ll be interesting to see how much patience yankee fans can muster as kids like Montero and Banuelos learn what they need to at the major league level.
The complications from that first inning had the same root problem – Banuelos and Montero made the classic young battery mistake. They gave the hitters too much respect and didn’t trust the pitcher’s stuff.
Banuelos’ fastball was tremendous that inning. He could have gotten through that entire inning on the fastball alone sprinkled with a couple of changes to the RH hitters.
But they went into mixing pitches mode right away.
That’s the kind of thing they can’t learn in the minors.
Unfortunately, based on the Phil Hughes experience I don’t see Yankee fans being very partial to wading through the bumps.
Still not on here in Central NJ.
Not far from the lovely Tpke.
David Ortiz lines one into the outfield for a single.
Doreen, I swear, right now I’m tempted to cancel YES, lol
ESPN=Exclusive Sox Pats Network…
Why can’t righties see Banuelos’ fastball down and in?
It catches them looking every time
Cameron 50 hopper just by Nunez into center.
Banuelos’ delivery looks a LOT like Pettitte… minus the hitch step
Another pitch selection mistake to Ortiz. No reason to throw him a slider but kids aren’t going to really understand that.
almost amazing double play by Granderson
so close
Salty breaks his bat first pitch, Granderson catches it on a dive. Throws in to 2nd but Ortiz scampers back.
great play by Granderson to save another chinker.
Best center-fielder in baseball.
This is why I like Martin to catch the younger pitchers…….
“Why can’t righties see Banuelos’ fastball down and in?”
It’s the downward plane. He throws it almost like a backfoot slider of sorts.
Marco…….Polo……
Unless YES makes some kind of profit for withholding the local game rights, it makes no sense for them to screw their fans by not relinquishing the rights just because YES can’t show it.
# Jerkface March 14th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
Salty breaks his bat first pitch, Granderson catches it on a dive. Throws in to 2nd but Ortiz scampers back.
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LOL!!!!!Ortiz can’t scamper
I don’t get YES – they are airing a Nets game tonight; that’s just pissy of them.
Betsy – No need for Martin to catch pitchers that won’t make the club. He has enough work to do with learning the major league staff this year.
Easiest way to tell this spring who will be called up is watching who Martin catches the next 2 weeks.
wow, strike 4 to scutero.
that was strike 3
I really wonder where some of these pitches are, but this isn’t a major league facility. The centerfield camera is really bad.
LOL!!!!!Ortiz can’t scamper
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Alright, fair enough, he trundled
So, CB,
After he’s done, will they go over all the things they did, what he might have done instead and that sort of thing?
sometimes you learn more from what goes wrong than what goes right. (not that anything is going “wrong” per se, but I think you know what I mean.)
Banuelos is probably getting pulled after this inning, his pitch count is going to be close to 50 by then…
This umpire missed the 2nd pitch in Papi’s AB which made both him and the ump flinch. Was a strike on outside corner.
Umpire missed 2 other strikes from his fastball and it led to walks
This ump is a mess, where’s the belt high strike?
Bring on the lasers.
Montero was looking into the bench to get the signs, while it may just be checking for things like intentionals and what not. Seems like the bench is calling the game.
Bobby Valentine as ESPN’s colorless man will not last.
Also, I’d assume Montero is calling the ptiches? He can learn something too.
# Jerkface March 14th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
LOL!!!!!Ortiz can’t scamper
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Alright, fair enough, he trundled
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is that the same as lumbered ?
Nice job kid!
BEND BUT NOT BREAK
ALA ANDY PETTITTE
Orel just said it all….the balls in the strike zone they aren’t squaring up. Great job to work out there.
Nice to see Banuelos making the big outs.
Big Papi rumblin,bumblin,stumblin!
Blake-
Banuelos is a really odd pitcher. Hard to figure out.
That said – he physically throws the ball extremely well.
Left handers so often just throw the ball poorly – even good ones. They can get away with poor throwing mechanics just being left handed, especially when they’re in high school, etc.
His arm action actually reminds me of David Price.
And look at this poise – gets into a very tough situation. The ump squeezes him because he’s a kid. Despite that he doesn’t get rattled at all.
Instead he calmly gets the next two outs on weak contact.
The ball just does not get squared up. Too much action on his pitches.
that was probably his last inning. He didnt give up any runs and he stayed composed.
Manny B……Passes that test
Sweet…………..good job, Manny.
Jerkface -
Ha ha! I’m not seeing the game, so based on what others said I assumed Montero was calling pitches.
Control isn’t there, but his first adventure into The Rivalry is best to be in ST. Still and all, he’s gotten out of his jams scoreless.
His command is off but he did get squeezed on a few pitches…..he doesn’t give in.
Hershiser likes Banuelos, pointed specifically at the Sox not squaring pitches in the zone.
Good outing for Manny, it gives him some experience against big leaguers and shows him some things to work on before he is pitching in the bigs.
see you in trenton manny!
I like Hershiser – I hope he’s on with Kay every week like he was last year.
Need a bomb out of Jesus tonight.
BloggingBombers: Banuelos said it’s pronounced Bahn-you-way-los. He would know, I guess.
he also pitched against them in tampa.
great future ……OK even up for King Felix
If Aceves ever learned to throw with his entire body, rather than severely stressing his lower back… how great of a pitcher would he have been?
Good job to get out of the jam. Baby steps.
Aceves might be in Boston’s rotation before it’s over if he’s healthy
why isnt aceves pitching for the yankees?
“great future ……OK even up for King Felix”
lmao
Banuelos in Spanish should be pronounced
Bahn-wayl-ohss (sharp s)
Doreen-
It’s spring training so you can’t draw too many conclusions on the issue. It’s very possible that the team wanted him to mix all of his stuff regardless of outcome just to work it in.
But on the whole, all he needed that inning to get outs was his fastball.
The larger point I was trying to make is that there’s only so much you can learn from in the minors.
A significant part of a prospects development has to come at the major league level.
And as you said – everyone has to learn from failure.
It’s just remarkable that these kids are as good as they are now.
the Yankees may have blown it with Aceves, he is throwing the ball pretty well and looks pain free out there…
CB -
I so look forward to your analysis.
And – I think it is so unfair that umpires can define the strike zone however they want.
I nearly died. For some reason my comcast box turned off and booted back up. Now it’s working again.
mick – because his back is only good for 3 months
Now that was the Montero we love….what a swing.
Awesome
Monstero
Montero, opposite gap power.
Can’t wait.
Have to wait.
Nice swing by montero!!!
Way to take it to the turncoat.
WOOT MONTERO DOUBLE!
Yes! Finally Montero smokes one in the gap.
Aceves is good – works quick, throws strikes, bulldog on the mound.
If his back stays up right, he is going to help BOS win games. Should be in their rotation anyway
smokin ace-ve-s
I’m pretty sure he knows how to pronounce his name, lol
His name so I’ll go with his pronunciation.
bobby valentine just complimented a yankee (montero). what is the world coming to?
man, he smoke that ball
Also Gardner is a boss
Edgar Martinez is good company.
That was an Arod like drive in the opposite field gap….
I’m pretty sure Montero has been calling his pitches this spring. That was something they wanted him to do for himself and work on. I thought he was looking in just for other signs as there have been man on base. Didn’t see him doing it every pitch but I may have missed it.
What a swing he put on that ball.
wow, gonzalez looked really heavy and slow on that play….
Nice piece of hitting, Jesus and Brett “the Hitman” Gardner
Woohoo! BG!
Montero looks like a catcher… On the base paths.
This came in the spring training program I got at the Nationals game. Its a NYY player pronunciation guide.
http://s1039.photobucket.com/a.....C5qcGc.jpg
Ban-way-lose is the correct pronunciation. No “You” between Ban and Way
ace is an accident waiting to happen….
when will hershier be working with kay?
*los
I usually watch SF/LAD/LAA when the west coast games come on… how is his glove/range/base-work in the field? Even as a stats guy i know the zone ratings at 1B are a bogus judge of defense at 1st.
nice Jesus
Really nice piece of hitting by Montero, I can’t wait to watch him in the big leagues this year
Tex makes that play blindfolded..
Benny Blanco – Teix almost made that play from tampa…
whydid youkilis touch gardy at 3rd?
Benny Blanco March 14th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Tex makes that play blindfolded..
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Apparently Gonzalez was trying to do that.
saltalamachachia or whatever….stinks.
nick should have a nice AB here
Send Curtis here. Send a message to Salty
Irreverent Discourse March 14th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Benny Blanco – Teix almost made that play from tampa…
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Lmao!!
Spanish doesn’t say “you”. But it’s his name like pat said.
Gonzalez doesn’t want to dive. He’s thinking not playing out there. Wouldn’t read to much into it. But doesn’t sound like he’s 1000%.
Montero is going to be an absolute terror at Yankee Stadium. He’s going to assault that short fence.
His swing is set up to take advantage of it even more than Alex’s is.
# joeman March 14th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
nick should have a nice AB here
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o well
where is matsui this year?
Well, looks like we know who the real “Ace” of Mexico is.
And his name ain’t Aceves.
That’s what they’ll see a lot of….Rodriguez type swings. A lot of doubles and homers from left center to right center
Manny on for 3rd.
Matsui is in Oakland DH’ing… hit his first HR yesterday
I wish he would retire already so he can come back and do fun things with the yankees :/
I’m surprised since he seemed to struggle last inning…….
Manny Banuelos reminds me of Kei Igawa . Bending , bending , bending some more , then also breaking .
I wonder what Big Poop will have to say about Manny Banuelos — maybe the same thing he said about Kei Igawa ?
They just said AJ is 3rd pitcher this year. I did not know Phil had moved into 2nd.
Wow Manny getting squeezed a bit
Larry isn’t happy with this ump.
banuelos getting no calls….at all.
I wish he would retire already so he can come back and do fun things with the yankees :/
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He should go back to Japan, I want him to keep playing but not against the Yankees. Kills me since he was my favorite player on the team.
3-1 count and Youkilis is late on the fastball.
NASTY!!!!
haha….3-2 nasty changeup. That’s not even fair
he made youk look silly
lmao youk just got clowned on a change up. Holy cow.
jerkface – i don’t think Japan needs the “return of godzilla” right now…
this umpire isn’t very good but that change was unbelievable…
CB,
3-1 late of fastball and then way out in front on a 3-2 changeup….that’s what you call pitching.
Ugh…….I really hate YES
Aww too bad he’s coming out, but he looked happy at least
I am in Florida so I am watching game on ESPN2. Montero smoked a double and scored on Gardner’s double that hugged the firstbase line. Manny B has showed ability to pitch out of trouble. Command is a bit off tonight but he has made pitches when he had too. Just struck out Youk. Has an awesome change to go with a fast ball and curve. Just reached pitch limit here in 3rd. Joe is going to pen for a lefty.
“C’mon, Skip, let me stay in.”
Key to that change up is the downward plane and release point on his fastball.
Can’t pick it up the difference out of his hand or in the flight plane.
Super awesome moment, Joe talking to Banuelos with a smile on his face the other plays laughing and smiling, asking him if he could get Gonzalez. Banuelos says: I can get him, and then Joe smiles and taps his arms, everyone laughs and he pats Banuelos on the back and says you done good.
Atleast from my rudimentary lip reading thats what it looked like.
Nice job by Banuelos today.
Thanks, Yankeeclipper!
Yay, Manny B! Good job.
man, that change is just so pretty
Manny has a real sense of confidence with his mound presence…..
Aww, thanks Jerkface……..He probably could get AGon. I really want to hear what the Sox have to say after the game.
Steve “Mr.” Garrison
Key to that change up is the downward plane and release point on his fastball.
Can’t pick it up the difference out of his hand or in the flight plane.
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Do you think it is special that a pitcher of his stature gets such great downward movement on the pitch?
Making Youk look like a little leaguer on that 81 mph changeup – priceless!
Manny did nothing to hurt his cause. He has mound presence and maturity to stay here. If not for the innings limit this kid belongs here. He will get time in AA and AAA. I see him coming up in September — probably in relief. He might do for us what Price did for TB in 2008.
Blake-
This is really just amazing stuff we’re seeing.
When you see a prospect even as good as Betances is you have some real frame of reference.
Great frame. Athletic. Gets through his mechanics well. Big arm. You don’t see that combination all that often – but it’s not like it’s something you never see. Every year there are a few kids like that in the game (maybe no 6’8 but you get the point).
You just rarely if ever see kids like Banuelos.
Heck, you never even see mlb pitchers like banuelos.
His stuff is better than Cole Hamels.
did manny get squuezed
The ability to make outs when you don’t have your best stuff is such an important ability in a pitcher. Impossible to teach.
This early in the year against a patient lineup and a postage stamp strikezone, nothing wrong with any results here. His stuff is good, and he’s 20. When he can consistently control it and has his innings properly built up… Banuelos is going to absolutely destroy the league.
“Skip, I can get this big bum, Gonzalez out. He’s just a left handed Youkilis.”
High praise from someone like Hershiser.
“Three above average major league pitches”.
“When he got the ball over the plate the Boston hitters couldn’t square it up.”
why are they calling him ban-U-elos?
Unfortunately, 26 pitches / inning . . . just like Phil Hughes .
Manny is gonna be special. Watchimg him tonight is even more impressive.
The Red Sox, getting squeezed, long bus ride, none of it phased him.
He just needs experience and innings.
He’s a keeper.
Betsy
This link works for me so it might work for you.
http://www.phstream.com/2010/1.....l#comments
Well, I don’y know if you can say he didn’t hurt his cause even a little bit… I’m sure Girardi and Rothschild are not happy about the 3 walks and giving too much respect to the hitters…. he has to go right at them in the bigs. He was also not particularly economical and had a few too many deep counts….
why are they calling him ban-U-elos?
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Thats how he wants it pronounced according to twitter.
mick – because people in boston speak like morons?
I have NESN on… are the ESPN guys doing the same thing?
I could see a smallish pitcher having everything going straight downward, if he was straight over the top like Downing or Bouton was.
Pat, thanks! I think Manny is out now, so the rest of the game doesn’t matter……but I appreciate it!
allman bros live from the beacon tonite on msg 8:30
Its a good sign that he was able to get out of the jams he put himself into, very Pettitte like.
He’s untouchable………but forget about the Yankees being able to make a trade for any player because teams will demand Manny
az88 – a lot of time they are not running their normal pitch sequences in spring training. he is probably working on a few different things tonight… i would imagine his changeup was one of them, and they were nasty. he could very easily have had ~10 more strikes with a different ump.
He did not get squeezed. His command was off with 2 walks in 1st and he gave up back to back hits in 2nd. However, he did not give in and made big pitches. In 3rd he was tough on first two batters and left after he made Youk look bad. His change is a tough pitch to pick up and hit. The kid has major league stuff and is very polished for a 20 year old. He is far more advanced than Hughes and Joba were at this stage of their career.
His stuff was fine tonight.
FB was consistent in the 92-94 range in the scouts section.
CB was tighter than his last start.
Change up was great as usual.
Location was a bit off and he was getting squeezed.
It’s not like these umps have seen him yet.
Yes, he got squeezed. But he didn’t lose his composure.
I’m glad it wasn’t a cake walk for him. Builds character.
did the Sox sign Bartolo Colon’s left handed throwing twin brother? He’s a real ‘hefty lefty’
how are the rs going into a season w/o a catcher?
I read Rosentahl piece on how Yanks can trade 5 top prospects — Manny, Delin, Montero, Nova, Nunez and Adams for King Felix. I am glad he is a sporstwriter and not our GM. I love king Felix but do not empty the farm for one player — even if he is King Felix.
“Do you think it is special that a pitcher of his stature gets such great downward movement on the pitch?”
Jerkface,
I was talking to blake about that before.
Honestly – yes – it’s just sort of really strange to watch.
It’s just a confluence of a bunch of different things. Most of which is probably his natural arm slot.
When he throws the ball look at his front leg. he lands fairly straight on that leg. He really does have “tall and fall” mechanics.
Beside his arm slot, it’s those mechanics that give him that awesome downwards plane.
Usually for a pitcher of that height to throw with that kind of plane he would have to be very over the top.
But that really flattens out the fastball. Banuelos gets that plane without an extreme over the top slot.
The other part of what’s so odd with how he throws with those tall and fall mechanics is how hard he throws.
He really does not drive through off his back leg. Despite that he generates plus velocity.
The other great part of how he throws is that he doesn’t have any recoil. In fact his follow through is very long. And that’s often very hard to do when your front side stays stiff. That’s why he reminds me a bit of price. But price’s body is entirely different.
It’s just sort of remarkable. You can’t teach this. He’s eye opening to watch.
a belliard sighting
while we’ve been enjoying this the news out of japan has gotten worse. theres been another explosion and possible breach of containment of the reactor core.
Yanks can trade 5 top prospects — Manny, Delin, Montero, Nova, Nunez and Adams for King Felix. I am glad he is a sporstwriter and not our GM. I love king
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god forbid he comes up lame
# AZ88 March 14th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
Ban-way-lose is the correct pronunciation. No “You” between Ban and Way
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Manny adds the -You- so that how it’s pronounced. I don’t speak Spanish, but my understanding is that pronunciation differ from country to country.
Anyhow, if your name is spelled s-m-i-t-h and you want to pronounce it jones, that is your prerogative.
It is important to see how young pitchers handle pressure and pitch out of jams. Manny faced regular RS line up and pitched out of 1st and 2nd innings. @nd inning he had based loaded with one out.
Aceves gained weight during the half inning. And he is throwing left handed too for some reason
I am so disappointed to not be able to see this game.
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Re: name pronunciation. None of his children ever pronounced his last name the same way our father did.
Please keep up the play by play, we have no broadcast in upstate NY.
Thanks everyone.
that’s the 2nd time I’ve seen Banuelos and come away just as impressed as the last time. That change to get Youkilis was as good as it gets. His fastball has late life in the zone and he clearly knows how to pitch. He’ll be in the rotation for the Yankees no later than 2012-if this was 1985 he’d be in the rotation at the beginning of this season.
It’s like the umps give all the top prospects a hard time. It’s their way of rolling out the red carpet.
You want to see Colon’s pitching twin? Look at Aceves gameday picture.
what was belly-yard thinking?
Oh, and I was listening to Kay today and he said the Yankees a media pack which provided the pronunciation as Manny wants it pronounced.
There’s going to alot of guys in The Eastern League having 0 fer’s this season when Trenton shows up on the schedule
Yankees *gave out* a media pack
rs picking up our scraps (aceves) gotta love it
“I could see a smallish pitcher having everything going straight downward, if he was straight over the top like Downing or Bouton was.”
GB7-
Exactly. But when your really over the top it’s very difficult to have life on the ball.
Banuelos doesn’t throw over the top that much and there’s certainly no lack of life on the ball!
Guidry had terrific downwards plane on the ball. But I don’t know if he even had that kind of plane on his fastball.
Ys Guy March 14th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
while we’ve been enjoying this the news out of japan has gotten worse. theres been another explosion and possible breach of containment of the reactor core.
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Scary. Yes I have that on the split screen. Another huge explosion at the nuclear plant; they have evacuated everyone.
CNN also reports the company that runs the plant is known to be less than forthright and known for making mistakes.
Cutting edge broadcasting on NESN… the ESPN booth is bright.
i can see rs picking up b molina any day now
I like Tito as a manager. He does a good job in the zoo that is baseball in boston.
And I don’t think line up really makes that much of a difference.
All that said – I’m really hoping he actually goes ahead with Ellsbury batting lead off and Crawford third.
That line up makes no sense.
rb from LI says:
March 14, 2011 at 8:22 pm
Oh, and I was listening to Kay today and he said the Yankees a
media pack which provided the pronunciation as Manny wants it pronounced.
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When I went to the nats ST game saturday they had the lineup in it and a pronunciation guide. Here is a pic of it.
http://s1039.photobucket.com/a.....C5qcGc.jpg
That’s what you’re talking about I presume?
CB,
Yup, special stuff. Great breakdown of his mechanics. I was trying to think of another guy that size that threw like like…..I didn’t see Guidry….he was more over the top if I remember.
He went through the Sox lineup one and a half times worked out of trouble and gave up one hard hit ball…..and it looked like he was finding hisbgroove when they pulled him.
Doreen
This is working for me. Give it a shot.
http://www.phstream.com/2010/1.....l#comments
Papelpuke!!!!!!
Sox have holes at C and SS. Drew is injury prone. Youk is a better firstbaseman defensively than he is at 3rd – particularly when you compare him to Beltre. Getting Adrian is a big plus for them but I think Bobby Valentine is rght about Crawford and he may not be a good fit for Fenway.
Cashman on now
Another huge explosion at the nuclear plant; they have evacuated everyone.
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Except for the people pumping the water. Explosion came from the suppression pool tank. Which could be from the hydrogen buildup from the water they are pumping in.
Crawford
Pedroia
Gonzo
Youk
Ortiz
Drew
Scutero
Salty
Ellsbury
Trying to keep up with the streaming on the adthenet stream, but my PC keeps lagging.
Manny seemed to be not at his best, but still got it done. It’s part of learning how to pitch in the bigs.
Garrison got it done in his work.
CB – what do you do? Pedroia, Crawford, Youk, Agon, Ortiz?
Can’t really bat Crawford outside the top4 for $20mil per :p
Montero was right on that first fastball. Just missed.
He there, that strike 2 pitch to Montero, wasn’t Banuelos hitting that all night long?
Funny, that.
RS want to dump Dice K. how much money do they still oww him? Sox may not have much of an advantage over us on starting pitching and it could be dead even if we get nice results from rour 4 and 5 spots.
Montero was right on that first fastball. Just missed.
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He was pissed.
Okay I just came in and have just started to watch the game (DVRd). But I will say that I did turn on the radio on my way home and heard that the score was 1-0 Yankees.
To quote Arod – HA!
Another reposted article on Banuelos from February from ben Shpigel
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02.....ref=sports
How does Montero look behind the plate?
ty36, I didn’t see it myself, but looks about right. They actually talked about the pronunciation at length. I mean, 5 minutes to talk about how a guy wants his name pronounced — or really about how people have preferences.
Bob Shepherd used to go to new guys, visiting players, etc. to check on correct pronunciation. No surprise, Mike Mussia’s response to Shep “Whatever”
Cashman:
- Vazquez is all power. He was the MVP of the Carribean World Series.
- Prior has done ok. He’s not the Prior of old. He can still compete and can still get people out.
- Talking about Japan tragedy.
- Starting Rotation. We have a good competition. They have all put forth a fair claim to be part of the rotation. Have to balance spring training results with what you know about the veterans. Different evaluation for every pitcher.
Jerkface
The whole situation over there is awful. I’m not pro or anti nuclear power but I sure hope our government has things in place so if something were to shut down the main power cooling the water, there’s plenty of backups(I know they say there is but I don’t always trust our government.
See ya when I catch up to the current game. The cool part about the DVR of course is that you can breeze through commercials.
Irreverent,
This is part of the problem of Crawford. He really should hit lead off. But he makes a big deal about it and really doesn’t want to do it. It may not be worth the fuss to force him to change in his first season on a big contract in a pressure cooker of a place. That said, I would explore him batting first.
Otherwise I would go with Pedroia, Crawford, Gonzalez, Youkilis, Ortiz/Drew.
I’d try to avoid Gonzalez and Ortiz hitting back to back.
Betances is coming in next.
Montero’s going to need to make an adjustment to the pitch away.
He stands very far from the plate and is having some trouble seeing that pitch and covering the outside edge.
Crawford doesn’t want play centerfield. Doesn’t want to leadoff. What dies he want to do?
Guidry was pretty much a 2 pitch pitcher…high riding fastball and Steve Carlton slider and as Carlton was described, when his slider was off the plate, they swung and when it was over the plate, they took the pitch.
Betances plunks Scutaro with a huge fastball
It’s just heartbreaking. A reporter just said there are hundreds of bodies washing up on the beach.
They also updated the earthquake to a 9.0 and the death toll to 2,414. 3,118 people were missing and 1,885 injured and the number of dead is expected to go up.
What dies he want to do?
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He wants to be paid 18.5 million dollars to patrol the smallest left field in history
extremely wild
Wow he’s pumped…can’t find the plate at all.
Rb from li
I have always pronounced it ban-well-ose, since last season when he was with the tampa yankees. Its going to be a process to change how I say it now. I always do bad when people decide they want to go by a nickname or anything that is different than what I’ve always known them as. My name is pretty much foolproof but I’ve been called every different variation so I just let it go. If that’s how he wants it pronounced then I guess we have to call him that.
Thought Ellsbury was fast!
Ramiro Pena really is a great little player all around. (Still in first inning)
Betances is overthrowing. Relax throw strikes!
Betances really needs to work on his front side mechanics right now.
His front shoulder has been opening early all spring.
He’s losing location and is up in the zone because of that.
Here is the one down side of sending your entire every day lineup out in a meaningless Spring Training game against your biggest rival and their top pitching prospect: said prospect could very well own your biggest hitters and wish list of future Hall of Famers.
http://yankeesgameday.blogspot.....wn-by.html
Larry Lucchino is a real tool. That is for sure.
gift double play. Way to go.
Nice catch by Betances, red sox runner messes up and turns it into a double play.
As hard as Betances throws – there’s more velocity in there to tap.
Don’t think Betances has snapped off a curve yet, even when Montero called for it BEtances mized up the signs and threw a fastball that allowed the runners to move up when it sailed over Montero’s head.
Wild pitch by Betances scores the runner, threw it completely behind the batter
wild pitch ties game up. Betance has mechanical issues. He is opening up.
Betances obviously needs time at AA and AAA before he’s ready, you can’t compare his level of maturity to Banuelos at this point in time.
My feed is cutting out. Are they proclaiming Tito/Epstein as one of the all-time great duos?
And Lucchino values his Japanese players so much he can’t even bother pronouncing their names correctly.
An example of why those projecting a 2012 arrival for Betances are a bit optimistic.
He needs a lot more work.
Not nearly as polished as Manny.
ty36 – I understand…you see a spelling and expect it to be pronounced a certain way. Ah, well, I suppose if we hear it enough (hopefully, we will!) we will get used to it.
What am I doing wrong? Time Warner in Manhattan is showing Sports Center although it is listed as the Yankees game (channels 29 & 729.)
SJ, I type faster than you, lol…
Both betances and banuelos are over-amped for this game right now.
CB – yeah, I just saw that. Well, I guess that’s what Trenton is for. Innings, and consistency.
wow…what a difference between betances and banuelos
Betances is fine. He’s a young pitcher in spring training, he has tons of talent.
Betances needs to pitch more; he is not in a groove yet. These mechanics are not representative of his usual mechanics if you at all saw him pitch last year.
FTR, Crawford is willing to both lead off and bat first.
What channel? In Manhattan?
CB – I’m a firm believer in the power of OBP in the leadoff spot… never personally thought Crawford should lead off, even in Tampa. Problem was they had no one else. I don’t really understand why he is such a baby about it though.
As much as it pains me to say, a healthy Pedroia at this point is going to get on base more and probably steal more bases. It will be interesting to see what Crawford does a year or two from now, when his legs get used to playing on real grass most of the time. Either way, its unlikely they would need to move him up in the order at that point.
Pena with the high sox. Looks good.
Jenks is fat. Gross.
GreenBeret7 March 14th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
Both betances and banuelos are over-amped for this game right now.
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This too.
Betances has enormous ability.
What talent. Through the roof.
He has issues to work on clearly. But his ceiling is enormous.
I hate when Lucchino plays the gritty, gutty underprivileged card.
CB – i’m not arguing with your point i’m just bored
Pedroia should stick to the combover.
Betances was sweating bullets. I think he was WAY too amped up and excited that outing.
Sorry, meant to say that Crawford is willing to both lead off and *play CF.*
nice bunt by Granderson for a hit.
that was interesting-Grandy put down a bunt that wasn’t very good and still beat it out…
Bobby Jenks is friggin Fatty Arbuckle
MG – you mean he’s fast? Weird.
Granderson drops a bunt down, should teach gardner that method.
YankeeFem, right from the start, they seemed to be getting away from they usually do….just playing catch and tonight, they were trying to throw as hard as they could. Still in all, 1 run and 2 hits by double A pitchers against Boston’s starting 9 is impressive.
Irreverent Discourse March 14th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
MG – you mean he’s fast? Weird.
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that and Youkilis didn’t exactly look like Brooks Robinson making that play-unless it’s Brooks making the play in 2011…
CB,
Agreed. Huge ceiling. It always takes big guys longer because there are so many moving parts.
It’s why I believe his ETA is closer to ’13 than ’12.
I predict that Crawford will not enjoy Boston.
Jenks 2-tone glove resembles a Boston cream pie….coincidence??
” Sorry, meant to say that Crawford is willing to both lead off and *play CF.*”
I know what he himself has said – but this is a situation where actions speak louder than words.
I don’t buy it. He may technically be “ok” with both but I doubt it’s something he’s shown much appetite for.
If he did he’s be playing CF and leading off. But he’s done neither to any significant extend in his career.
At this time last year the Red Sox thought so little of Ellsbury’s defense that they moved him off CF for Mike Cameron.
Crawford is orders of magnitude better than Ellsbury defensively. Despite that he’s still going to play LF and half of those games will be in the smallest LF in baseball.
It doesn’t add up.
Great catch by Grandy. Love his defense.
Looks like someone missed a sign.
Hit and run maybe with Swish and Grandy?
Hope I’m wrong but I have a feeling Nick Whiffer is going to have an awful year at the plate…..
SJ-
He’s just got a ton of ability. He’s oozes talent.
And there’s a lot more in that arm than what we’ve seen this spring.
Very impressed with his athleticism.
Reminds me a bit of Ubaldo Jimenez.
Given how hard he’s worked since the surgery – he really has a shot to be something special.
DocTodd March 14th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
Hope I’m wrong but I have a feeling Nick Whiffer is going to have an awful year at the plate.
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How are you with lottery numbers and pork belly futures?
GreenBeret7 March 14th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
YankeeFem, right from the start, they seemed to be getting away from they usually do….just playing catch and tonight, they were trying to throw as hard as they could. Still in all, 1 run and 2 hits by double A pitchers against Boston’s starting 9 is impressive.
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Agree; they both worked out of trouble. Betances had that unfortunate WP or he wouldn’t have allowed a run even though his mechanics were out of whack.
Lucchino is a first class jerk
That was just nasty call. Looking for heat and they call for an off speed pitch.
I do predict a Yankee playoff birth in 2011!
Nice change up to get Pukey to whiff!
Okay, Manny done. Obviously he worked a bit harder than he would have hoped to. But he ended up with an 0.00 ERA in this game – FWIW
Lol @ Edes. “I didn’t mean to make it look like they’re trying to peddle off all these guys”
“I do predict a Yankee playoff birth in 2011!”
Boy or girl?
Montero has to knock that down somehow.
Montero seems to struggle catching Betances.
Sorry, berth…darn iPad…..
Reduced to watching NESN on my iPhone MLB app. Montero is not impressive behind the plate (as advertised.)
DocTodd March 14th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
I do predict a Yankee playoff birth in 2011!
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Excellent! Red or Black first spin in Vegas?
In that Josh Bard commercial they just played it showed Tex striking out, but batting right handed…. Either way if I remember right, hasnt Tex hit Bard pretty well?
Boy, Bobby V is going to get axed by NESPN. He’s talking logic about the Sox starting rotation……
Betances had real command issues tonight. 3 wild pitches? He needs to work on mechanics. He has + stuff but command is the key to success.
Glad that Bobby V is doing good job poking holes in Red Sox. Dice-K, Beckett, are question marks as much if not more than AJ.
BTW, the video on the MLB app is extraordinary. Just like TV — no stuttering or blocks. Really amazing.
I love all of this pontification about the problems of Dice-K.
How does a pitcher with 6 plus, no sorry 6 “unhittable” pitches, not be dominating stateside?
Valentine is great. He extolled the virtues of Dice-K over and over and makes up every excuse possible to avoid having to admit he was wrong.
6 unhittable pitches. No pitcher in history has come close to that kind of arsenal Bobby.
Doc Todd – I predict the Yankees will win the World Series. Of course I predict that every year. That’s how good they are.
I also predict Swisher will have a very good year.
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I’ve reached my boredom factor with the game. Not even going to bother watching Betances. I trust the triple Bs. They’re music to my ears, just like Bach, Beethoven, and Brahms.
Night all. Time to get back to the real world and pray that things aren’t worse in Japan.
I’m still waiting to see Dice K throw the gyro pitch…
Bobby V IS being a Japan apologist, but he’s right on 3 things. Beckett getting a pass. Lackey getting a pass. And the Sox have messed up Dice.
And what’s to get excited about Crawford in left field? It will only be a really good thing in 81 games.
To be fair to Bobby V, he genuflects like that about all Japanese players. He is like Gruden with quarterbacks.
Didn’t Bobby V say Irabu was like a Japanese Nolan Ryan??
Its because the Japanese are the only baseball fans that truly appreciate him.
Bernie Williams playing with the Allman bros on MSG right now. The Yankees and the Brothers together!
I hate Theo…with a passion…..
Andrew Baily has an appointment with Dr. James Andrews.
Dr.Andrews=Dr.Kevorkian
CB March 14th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
” Sorry, meant to say that Crawford is willing to both lead off and *play CF.*”
I know what he himself has said – but this is a situation where actions speak louder than words.
I don’t buy it. He may technically be “ok” with both but I doubt it’s something he’s shown much appetite for.
If he did he’s be playing CF and leading off. But he’s done neither to any significant extend in his career.
At this time last year the Red Sox thought so little of Ellsbury’s defense that they moved him off CF for Mike Cameron.
Crawford is orders of magnitude better than Ellsbury defensively. Despite that he’s still going to play LF and half of those games will be in the smallest LF in baseball.
It doesn’t add up.
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Right, Crawford playing LF at Fenway makes no sense at all. However, my understanding regarding Crawford’s not leading off was that Piniella didn’t consider Crawford a lead-off hitter and Crawford bought into Piniella’s version of him as better off not in the one spot. But he said he is perfectly willing to lead off if Boston wants him to.
Bobby V has looked beyond the hype to point out RS question marks. They have question marks and are not a sure thing.
Nunez and Vazquez get hits. I like Nunez a lot. This kid can play.
GB7 – that just happen? About Bailey, I mean? Tough break.
One good thing about Montero going north with the NYYs, Long will have time to work with him more. always appeared that he was afraid of getting jammed. If they make a mistake there, though, he’ll break the pitcher’s heart.
Loved the picture of Dice K and or Okajima standing outside the park with collection cans for aid to Japan. At that rate it will take until Christmas.
Doc, Bailey felt it in his forearm today pitching, and the appointment was announced a little while ago. That’s a pity. Outstanding young pitcher. I’d guess that Brad Zeigler gets the closer’s job.
let’s get the bats going. Ayla and Garrison pitched well out of pen tonight. Betances and Montero were not on same page.
One thing to note from this game is that teams should bunt on Youkalis a lot until he proves he can make that play….looked like a high school 3B on the bunt by Granderson.
The espn crew just mentioned that the A’s had signed Fuentes, so he can close.
Betances was wild but its early and he’s still working on things. He is losing velocity and location by opening up as CB mentioned before…..tough to get all that height in sync.
Sanchez usually throws mid 90′s. What’s up with his velocity?
Brandon Laird butchering third base this inning.
Laird has to finish that play off, bat or not.
Tar March 14th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Sanchez usually throws mid 90?s. What’s up with his velocity?
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Aldred was getting sanchez to dial it back after they moved him to the bullpen, hoping it would help his control. It worked ok. He did get better.
Cashman and Billy Eppler still at the game, cool.
Rich Hill is nasty… I can see him giving our lefties fits
Laird gave it a ride.
Rich Hill is nasty… I can see him giving our lefties fits
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He was intimidating against all those minor leaguers. I can see Cano taking him out of the park 500 ft again.
You mean the Yanks aren’t going to be playing Russo, Belliard, and Laird in the starting lineup come April?
In passing I do like Gardner’s two handed swing. A hot smash one hopper to second and a shot down the first base line. None of those dribblers of last year. Good stuff.
That Heinekin commercial was kind of awesome.
Not bad. We had 3 starters out there for only half the game. Can’t wait for real baseball.
Thanks GB. I knew something was different. He seemed to be throwing a decent change as well.
Betances is how old, 24? If he arrives in the bigs in 2013, he’ll already be 26 – not a baby
Tar, he’s had that, but never seemed to be in a position that he could go off-speed. He was always 3 balls on somebody and runners on base. He might be useful, but, I just don’t trust his control. He’s too good to throw away and not good enough to keep. A lot like Brian Bruney was. Great arm and go-and-come control.
Though it may be an odd comparison, an interesting way to understand how well Banuelos throws the ball is to compare him to Jake Peavy.
For Banuelos to throw the ball as hard as he does with the front leg mechanics he has, he should probably throw in the same maximum effort fashion reminiscent of Peavy and have the kind of violent recoil Peavy does.
It’s that violent recoil that probably caused Peavy to have that lat muscle detach.
Instead, Banuelos is smooth and consistent and sound in his follow through.
Ledger_Yankees RT @ZBerm: Youkilis impressed by Banuelos’ stuff, said just needs to learn how to pitch. “Got a good arm. Figures it out, he’ll be alright”
Imagine how foolish Youk will look striking out when Manny “figures it out”.
Betances is 22. He turns 23 in 10 days.
betances will be 23 next week. Most likely be using a cane before long.
GB
Good way to describe him. With no options I am guessing he’s gone.
He already seems to know how to pitch more than most young pitchers, but the guy was giving a compliment, so I’m not going to harp on it…….I’m all for giving him more time in the minors
Betsy March 14th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
Betances is how old, 24? If he arrives in the bigs in 2013, he’ll already be 26 – not a baby
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He’s 22, almost 23.
CB, thanks. If just one of these kids turns out to be ok, we’ll be ok………….two would be great and three would be obscene.
By ok, I mean good……. not just “ok”
Yankeefem, thanks – no idea where I got that he was 24 from, lol
Betances’s ETA is 2012.
Banuelos strikes me as one of those compact muscle guys. You watch the effort on Betances, a pitcher a foot taller, compared to that efficient delivery of Banuelos for the same results. Totally amazing.
Aaron Boone raved about Banuelos on Baseball tonight…says change is Santana like. Impressive outing….maybe even moreso than had he had his command because it showed his poise and ability to work out of a jam by making a quality pitch…..had the feeling he was about to settle in though when he hit his limit.
I think its safe to say that Betances was too hyped up tonight. I’ve seen him a lot before and I know he is better than that.
“If just one of these kids turns out to be ok, we’ll be ok………….two would be great and three would be obscene.”
Too much is being made out of the “killer b’s.” The future of the franchise goes past these three kids.
In addition to those 3, they have at least 2-3 other very high ceiling kids a little lower down.
It’s really a function of probability. They’re developing the kind of critical mass of talent that is going to facilitate a steady supply of high end talent to the majors.
I doubt it. The Yankees are not going to break in 2 kid starters and it has nothing to do with 2008 (Phil was hurt, so he sort of doesn’t count).
Tar, I guess he gets included in a trade. He’s not that old, and really good stuff, great arm, no injuries….and not much control. If he shows that, then somebody ha to go, but, I’m guessing trade. Maybe Phelps, Logan and sanchez to the Cubs for Marshall and a minor leaguer of decent value? Something like that. unless they could get broxton without including Logan.
CB, that’s why we’ve been talking about the surplus – the rotation can only hold 5. I know some, but not all, of these other kids will be in the pen. I guess it’s too early to say, but if they keep developing, I guess they’ll be trade bait. Is Jose Ramirez one of the kids you are referring to? Even those without high ceilings appear to have the potential to be really solid major league pitchers – I’d like to see them develop position players now.
tyanksfan36 March 14th, 2011 at 10:17 pm
I think its safe to say that Betances was too hyped up tonight. I’ve seen him a lot before and I know he is better than that.
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Like I said not representative, so no need to overanalyze.
Ledger_Yankees Star Ledger
RT @ZBerm: Youkilis said a lefty who can throw 3 good pitches doesn’t even need to throw hard. Banuelos throws hard. Makes for a good combo
Proper talent evaluation of who to trade off to fill an area of need could be an interesting problem to have in the not too distant future.
Betsy March 14th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
CB, that’s why we’ve been talking about the surplus – the rotation can only hold 5. I know some, but not all, of these other kids will be in the pen. I guess it’s too early to say, but if they keep developing, I guess they’ll be trade bait. Is Jose Ramirez one of the kids you are referring to? Even those without high ceilings appear to have the potential to be really solid major league pitchers – I’d like to see them develop position players now.
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Ramirez needs to just get his curve ball average and consistent. His FB and change are plus.
Marshall, DePaula… Bryan Mitchell down the road if he develops that change up.
I wonder how Chris Cabrera’s rehab is going.
Jose Ramirez has a great deal of promise. He could really move quickly this year.
That said, he may be no better than the 7nth most talented pitcher in the system.
After the top 3 kids, Brett Marshall,
Bryan Mitchell and Graham Stonburner are all very good.
Marshall is another one who is going to move very fast as long as he stays healthy.
But at this point those 7 kids really make a terrific cohort that you hope can produce 1-2 high quality rotation arms along with 1-2 other back end guys.
Hershiesier now raving about Banuelos again on baseball tonight.
And that’s not even counting guys like Nova, Noesi, Warren and Phelps.
Ramirez, Marshall and Bryan Mitchell are on the next wave of young pitchers and that doesn’t even include DePaula and Paniagua.
GB
That would be great if they could. It seems real hard to trade somebody when other GM’s know he’s probably not making the team and is out of options. Kind of like you said good enough to sign, but not good enough to give up something in return. Anyway, I hope you’re right.
Banuelos can learn how to pitch better.
Youk can’t learn how to be less ugly.
Yankeefem, thanks! I think Ramirez is very young, so he’s got plenty of time.
Oh, I forgot about Marshall – he’s a guy I’m very interested in.
I don’t know what they’re going to do about the rotation, lol. AJ is here for 3 more years and CC very likely for another 6 or 7.
I think Stoneburner will probably be in the pen……
The change to Youkalis was great but the most impressive pitch or AB was to Pedroia the inning before. Runners in scoring position and he paints a fastball on the inside corner and jams a good RHed fastball hitter to get out of trouble….you hear it all the time but lefties with his kind of stuff that can also pitch inside to righties like that often turn out to be really good.
Betsy March 14th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
I think Stoneburner will probably be in the pen……
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That was the original projection but I think both his slider and change are plus but inconsistent. He is one guy that it will be fun to have in Trenton to see him evolve.
Ramirez *is* young, but has had some issues spinning a curve ball. His FB and change up are sick though.
Also we have a ton of catchers as trade chips and *are* filling in position player-wise. The latter is mostly blocked anyway, and we have an arsenal of OF’s on the rise.
“Runners in scoring position and he paints a fastball on the inside corner and jams a good RHed fastball hitter to get out of trouble….”
Cole Hamels doesn’t even really do this consistently. He gets in trouble and with a RH hitter up he almost always avoids the inside part of the plate and lives outside with his change and fastball.
And when you think of premier change up-power lefties right now given Santana’s injury Hamels is probably the guy.
The old arm of the group to watch this summer is going to be Jeremy Bleich. He is another that came out of school with a question mark about his health. Strained elbow while at Stanford and shoulder last year.
It’s too early to make any pronoucements on Stoneburner’s role. He has to go through AA before you can know.
He was absolutely great last season. And his stuff is very good.
Yankeesfem, it’s just a numbers game – 2 out of the 3 spots in the rotation are locked down for a few years (granted, CC could leave). Of course, maybe some of these kids just won’t develop – who knows who will turn into the real jewels.
I love a good curve, but I wonder if some guys just have issues with certain pitches -I’m sure he can come up with a decent one.
As to the catchers, it depends on how well Romine does this year…………the other catchers are way too far away to be used as trade chips.
CB, I only mean because there are only so many rotation spots to go around.
Tar, that’s why you almost have to give up two good ones plus him or take on somebody elses issues plus a good one. Who knows? He might just explode….or implode somewhere else.
Short of being traded, DJ Mitchell and Brackman are more likely bullpen bound that Stoneburner would be.