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Simulated notes: One roster cut, a few injury updates

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Mar 15, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

CC Sabathia and Bartolo Colon each pitched six scoreless “innings” this morning. They faced the same series of four minor league hitters over and over again — two righties and two lefties — with Austin Romine taking occasional at-bats here and there.

“I threw some changeups to lefties, backdoor my cutter,” Sabathia said. “It was good to work on that stuff and not have to worry about really worrying about the result.”

Sabathia said the best part of the day might have been working with Russell Martin, talking about things pitches and strategies while he was still on the mound facing hitters. For Colon, it was a day to continue working on his slider, keeping it in to left-handed hitters.

“Whenever you go out there to pitch, in your mind you’re pitching and you think the stadium is packed,” Colon said, using Tony Pena as his translator.

• Kyle Higashioka has been reassigned to minor league camp.

• Joe Girardi said he expects Manny Banuelos, Dellin Betances and Andrew Brackman to each get at least one more outing in big league camp before being sent down.

• The Yankees will probably use all of their regulars in tomorrow’s night game. As for the lineup, Girardi wouldn’t give us an exact order. “We might do some things, we might play around with some things,” Girardi said.

• Sergio Mitre is throwing a bullpen tomorrow, meaning he won’t pitch in Thursday’s game. But Girardi said his level of concern is still very low. “The trainers thought (a bullpen) was the best thing to do,” he said.

• Joba Chamberlain had an MRI yesterday but continues to tell the Yankees that he feels pretty good. “Functionally I think he’s fine,” Girardi said. Even so, it’s going to be a few days before Chamberlain pitches. There is no plan in place for when exactly he’ll pitch next.

• Mark Prior threw today and is feeling better. Girardi said it’s best not to go into detail about Priors symptoms yesterday, and I’ll take his word for it.

• Francisco Cervelli is off crutches. He came in for treatment today.

• Next four Yankees starters: Ivan Nova on Wednesday, followed by Phil Hughes, A.J. Burnett and Freddy Garcia.

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112 Responses to “Simulated notes: One roster cut, a few injury updates”

  1. Vader March 15th, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    SJ44….”If it isn’t, and they struggle, it will be interesting to see how everybody up there handles the heat that will come from the fans and their homer media”

    Watching that unfold may be better than the actual season.

    Does anyone out there think Colon can beat out both Garcia and Nova for a spot on the staff and for that matter, with his options does anyone think Nova starts the season in AAA?

  2. Triple Short of a Cycle March 15th, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    Repost

    I can think of only 2 hitters that went to the Red Sox and regressed and had bad year(s) Renteria and Lugo. Most everyone else not only plays to the backs of their baseball cards but has career years.

    I don?t agree that if Crawford doesn?t play to an elite level the offense won?t be as good as last year. They have Pedroia,Ellsbury and Youkolis for full years and they added Gonzalez. Yes they lost Beltre and Martinez but those additions more then make up for it

  3. Erin March 15th, 2011 at 12:24 pm

    Francisco Cervelli is off crutches. He came in for treatment today

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    Yay!!! :)

  4. stuckey99 March 15th, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    “Does anyone out there think Colon can beat out both Garcia and Nova for a spot on the staff and for that matter, with his options does anyone think Nova starts the season in AAA?”

    Outside chance he beats Garcia. Reasonable chance he begins year in pen.

    I think so long as he doesn’t meltdown, Nova will be in the rotation.

  5. Erica in NY March 15th, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    Fran the original March 15th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
    Erica,

    Yes, we are having a real (not simulated) draft Sunday at 7:45 PM.

    And my birthday is next Tuesday

    *************

    Duly noted

  6. Fran the original March 15th, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    Erica,

    You have to check one hour before for the draft order.

  7. Erica in NY March 15th, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    tyanksfan36 March 15th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
    Erica

    No, its not a special birthday. Only my 24th. I’m looking forward to it because this semester will be over by then and the Yankees will be playing here in Tampa that night. When that book showed up on my Amazon homepage I was like, wow its coming out on my birthday what a great present.

    Yeah we should have a simulated blog party, only if the Yankees win though.

    **************

    Sounds like a reason to be happy :-)

  8. Erica in NY March 15th, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    Fran the original March 15th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
    Erica,

    You have to check one hour before for the draft order.

    ******************

    Hahaha. I have to remember how to log in first

  9. Fran the original March 15th, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    Hahaha. I have to remember how to log in first
    *****************
    Erica, that might be a good start :)

  10. hardwired7 March 15th, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    Betances’ wildness last night plants that seed in the Boston hitters’ heads that at-bats against him could get very hairy at anytime. They’re patient hitters who really know the strike zone, letting them get too comfortable at the plate isn’t going to help your cause.

    Hopefully Dellin refines his mechanics as finds consistency, and the next time he sees the Red Sox he can start owning the inside half. After all, who’s going to dig in too deep when the next pitch might be high-90′s at your noggin?

  11. blake March 15th, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    Release Candidate: Sergio Mitre By Tim Dierkes [March 15 at 10:13am CST]

    Some scouts are “convinced the Yankees are going to release Sergio Mitre,” reports Joel Sherman of the New York Post. The club has two open rotation spots and one long relief job, which could go to Freddy Garcia, Bartolo Colon, and Ivan Nova in some combination. If the Yankees release Mitre prior to March 28th, he’d only be due 45 days termination pay, which on his $900K salary equals $222,527. If they release him after that they’d owe the full $900K, less the prorated portion of the league minimum if he signs elsewhere. So either way the bill to let Mitre go should be less than $500K. Mitre, 30, owns a 5.03 ERA, 5.2 K/9, 2.5 BB/9, and 1.4 HR/9 in 105 2/3 big league innings across two seasons for the Yankees, tossing another 68 innings in the minors. He’s been homer-prone despite strong groundball rates. Mitre had Tommy John surgery in July of 2008, earning a release from the Marlins a few months later. He signed a split contract with the Yankees that November. While rehabbing his elbow, Mitre picked up a 50-game suspension for violating MLB’s drug policy. Later in his Yankees career, he was retained for the ’10 and ’11 seasons as an arbitration eligible player.

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com

  12. stuckey99 March 15th, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    Yeah, I thought this all along.

    Colon is really battling Mitre.

  13. Niblick March 15th, 2011 at 12:44 pm

    It can’t happen soon enough.

  14. blake March 15th, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    Stuckey,

    Certainly possible.

  15. hardwired7 March 15th, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    Now I’ve been smiling lately, thinking about the good things to come
    And I believe it could be, something good has begun

    Oh meat train sounding louder
    Glide on the meat train
    Come on now Pittsburgh or Washinton
    Yes, he’s the meat train

  16. Irreverent Discourse March 15th, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    hardwired7 – I bet a lot of hitters think to themselves “Man, I use to kill Halladay when he was 20 years old in Spring Training”. Not working out for them so well now.

  17. Bronx Jeers March 15th, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    True that it could be Mitre on his way out.

    Everything I’ve read says they’re happy with what Colon has shown them.

    Is Colon better than Mitre? Well if Colon is truly healthy then he’s definitely better than Mitre.

    No more “Death Watch” ? That’ll be a shame.

  18. The Mets are Pond Scum March 15th, 2011 at 1:02 pm

    Rich in NJ March 15th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
    “The back half of the Crawford contract is going to look very mediocre (much like the back half of Burnett and Lackey).”

    I agree, but the real key for the Yankees is how the back-half of Teix’s and A-Rod’s contracts look; Jeter too to an extent.
    ————————————————————————————————
    I think you’re right on but the Yankees can take solace in the fact that both Tex and A-Rod are power hitters who get on base at a fair rate (due to solid BB numbers) and neither plays a defensive position requiring extensive fielding range (I firmly believe that A-Rod will be a fulltime DH within 2-3 seasons).

  19. The Mets are Pond Scum March 15th, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    Triple Short of a Cycle March 15th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
    The Mets are Pond Scum,

    They basically gave up 1 intriguing guy in Casey Kelly who had an over 5 ERA. The other 2 were nothing special
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    Arguably, I think they gave up a bit more talent than that but your point is well taken (hence, 1/2 a farm instead of the a whole farm).

    It is interesting to note that it seems the Cubs gave up more to get Garza than the Red Sox did to get Gonzalez.

  20. The Mets are Pond Scum March 15th, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    This may anger a few people on this site, but considering their financial resources, I believe the Rays are the model organization in MLB right now.

    They have done an outstanding job with player development and just as importantly, they have demonstrated a tremendous sense of timing knowing when to cut bait with certain veterans on the verge of free agency.

  21. hardwired7 March 15th, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    Irreverent Discourse –

    Halladay is in an entirely different realm. No intimidation factor is really needed when you own the entire plate.

    Really, I was just trying to wring some sort of positive out Betances’ outing.

    It’s only ST, of course, so you just move along and try to stay healthy.

  22. blake March 15th, 2011 at 1:13 pm

    “This may anger a few people on this site, but considering their financial resources, I believe the Rays are the model organization in MLB right now. They have done an outstanding job with player development”

    They do a great job at what they do….but will never be able to sustain it unless they spend some money…..and will likely never be able to do that in their current ball park. What’s scary for them and the rest of baseball is that the Yankees have started to develop players again.

  23. blake March 15th, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    Sherman was on mlb radio….talked about the Yankees for about a solid hour. Thinks Montero is the back up catcher….thinks they want to bring him along similarly to the way Posada broke in….thinks he can be Posada level defensively and that his bat will be good enough that it wont matter.

    Also thinks yanks should call Jack Z and ask him which 5 prospects he wants for Hernandez? I disagree with him there.

  24. The Mets are Pond Scum March 15th, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    Blake,

    Agreed.
    If a high revenue team like the Yankees (or Red Sox, Mets, Cubs, et al) makes a concerted effort towards player development and minimizes their risk in the free agent and soon to be free agent market via trade, the Rays of the world cannot realistically compete.

    It is when teams like this stretch with contracts like Burnett, Lackey, Crawford, Soriano, Bay, etc. that their financial advantage is drug back to the field.

    In regards to the Rays though, I still believe that they will be very competitive for the foreseeable future as they have an abundance of young talent (that most casual fans could not name) and they have been able to secure some of the best pieces in long-term, undervalued contracts beginning in the players’ early to mid-twenties.

  25. The Mets are Pond Scum March 15th, 2011 at 1:21 pm

    I’m a bit curious to the thought processes of some on this site in regards to Montero’s long-term future (specifically at catcher) in the event that Gary Sanchez pans out. Presumable Tex will still be manning 1B if/when Sanchez would hit the bigs.

  26. blake March 15th, 2011 at 1:21 pm

    I like Mitre more than most here but if the season started today I would have Nova and Garcia in the rotation and Colon as the long man with Mitre being let go. I like Mitre ok as a long reliever but not so much as a starter…..Colon is better equipped to start, if he’s healthy so Id rather keep him at this point…..things could change.

  27. NYYROC March 15th, 2011 at 1:22 pm

    Blake @ 1:13; During last Friday’s NYY v Braves game announcers mentioned a similar comment by ATL person (maybe Shuerholz sp?). Comment to the effect that years ago Braves realized they couldn’t buy big $ players so they decided to spend $ developing their own. Braves noticed that in recent years the NYY have begun to do that too. Braves person acknowledged that they (Braves) are “in trouble” now if the NYY are going that route.

  28. blake March 15th, 2011 at 1:24 pm

    Mets are Pond Scum,

    Agree. The Rays are extremely well ran. You have to commend them.

    Also, regarding Montero, Sanchez, Teixera…..Ill sign up for that problem ;) if Sanchez comes along and is clearly the better defender then Montero can catch, DH, play some first and most importantly hit until Tex’s contract is up and he can perhaps transition to 1b.

  29. Giuseppe Franco March 15th, 2011 at 1:26 pm

    # The Mets are Pond Scum March 15th, 2011 at 1:21 pm

    I’m a bit curious to the thought processes of some on this site in regards to Montero’s long-term future (specifically at catcher) in the event that Gary Sanchez pans out. Presumable Tex will still be manning 1B if/when Sanchez would hit the bigs.

    ———-

    They probably haven’t put a ton of thought into that.

    Sanchez is probably 2-3 years away from a legitimate shot with the big club. That’s a long time in this game.

    I would imagine Cashman saying “we’ll cross that bridge when we come to it.”

  30. The Mets are Pond Scum March 15th, 2011 at 1:26 pm

    NYYROC March 15th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
    Blake @ 1:13; During last Friday’s NYY v Braves game announcers mentioned a similar comment by ATL person (maybe Shuerholz sp?). Comment to the effect that years ago Braves realized they couldn’t buy big $ players so they decided to spend $ developing their own. Braves noticed that in recent years the NYY have begun to do that too. Braves person acknowledged that they (Braves) are “in trouble” now if the NYY are going that route.
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    I think Cashman really began to take this route around 2006-2007 but it is only now that the fruits of this patience are really beginning to be realized. Thank God the Cliff Lee deal fell apart last year. It really is an exciting time to be a Yankee fan.

  31. blake March 15th, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    NYYROC,

    Its true. If the Yankees are developing players at a similar rate to their smaller market competitors then they truly can create a competitive advantage with their financial situation because they can keep their guys long term and still fill other holes via free agency. We are just seeing the start of it with the first wave of prospects coming up….

  32. montyque March 15th, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    I’m thinking Prior has the same ailment that troubled Chan Ho Park last year…

  33. Mell March 15th, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    “thinks he can be Posada level defensively and that his bat will be good enough that it wont matter”

    Last night was my first extended look at Montero behind the plate. I’m just going to hope it was a really bad day amidst many good ones.

  34. The Mets are Pond Scum March 15th, 2011 at 1:29 pm

    Guiseppe,

    He may cite his usual public tagline, but Mr. Cashman has never struck me as a man who doesn’t think out all of the possibilities over time even when he is publicly saying differently.

  35. The Mets are Pond Scum March 15th, 2011 at 1:30 pm

    Mell March 15th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
    “thinks he can be Posada level defensively and that his bat will be good enough that it wont matter”

    Last night was my first extended look at Montero behind the plate. I’m just going to hope it was a really bad day amidst many good ones.
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    To quote Bump Bailey, “I lost it in the sun skip.”

  36. NYYROC March 15th, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    Blake & Mets are Pond Scum, I agree but I think it started slowly with Cano & Wang, to Hughes, Joba, Gardy & DRob and now we are on the verge of seeing some potentially big impact players come through at the same time (Montero, Bs). Fun times ahead.

  37. blake March 15th, 2011 at 1:33 pm

    Mell,

    He has looked better this spring for sure than last night……but to be fair Betances in particular was all over the place. Hes a work in progress but the important thing is that he is making progress. I don’t think he will ever be great back there…but I certainly think he can be good enough.

  38. The Mets are Pond Scum March 15th, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    It may be awkward, but RF may be the best option for Montero if his bat pans out and he ultimately proves Piazza-ish behind the plate.

  39. Mell March 15th, 2011 at 1:38 pm

    Blake:

    It looked pretty rough last night. Looked like he was stabbing at the ball more than letting it come to him in a lot of cases. Issues during Betances stint were more on Betances than Montero IMO, though he clearly should have had that one high heater.

    On the bright side, the inside out swing to drive that double to right center was a thing of beauty.

  40. blake March 15th, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    SI_JonHeyman chipper jones (.351) said to be swinging the bat his best since batting title year of 2008

    Watch out Phillies. If Chipper is healthy then it’s possible the Braves lineup could not only be better……but could be a lot better.

  41. NYYROC March 15th, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    Scum: He’d probably have a longer career too. Look @ Mauer, still hasn’t caught a ST game. He’s too good to cut his career short if he gets beat up behind plate. Same may be true for Montero.

  42. The Mets are Pond Scum March 15th, 2011 at 1:42 pm

    NYYROC March 15th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
    Blake & Mets are Pond Scum, I agree but I think it started slowly with Cano & Wang, to Hughes, Joba, Gardy & DRob and now we are on the verge of seeing some potentially big impact players come through at the same time (Montero, Bs). Fun times ahead.
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    It’s just a shame that we dumped so many live young players in the Granderson and Vasquez deals.

    It could have been worse though. I remember last off-season when so many here were clamoring for DeJesus over Gardner and going giddy over the prospects of Crawford’s impending FA.

  43. Betsy March 15th, 2011 at 1:43 pm

    So they wanted to keep CC and Colon on schedule, but not Phil? He’s supposed to pitch tomorrow – why not just let him pitch after (or before) Nova on Wednesday instead of pushing him back a day?

  44. blake March 15th, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    Mell,

    I agree. He struggled a bit last night…..the guys he was catching had something to do with I believe but he does need to work on things…..staying lower, letting the ball travel as you said….etc. last night though was the first time you really saw the bat come alive though this spring. The double was a great stroke and one other pitch against Papsmear where he fouled one straight back that he had a great pass at. Love the bat speed, love the swing plane, love the ability to hit to all fields. I think he may a simiar path as Cano as pitch selection seems to be his biggest deficiency right now…..once he starts swinging at the right pitches he’s going to damage them though.

  45. blake March 15th, 2011 at 1:46 pm

    I think Granderson will make that trade worthwhile starting this year.

  46. NYYROC March 15th, 2011 at 1:47 pm

    Scum: I don’t always agree with Cashman but big picture he knows what he’s doing. He’s moving the team in the right direction using all available means (trade, FA, farm). No more Jay Buhner for Ken Phelps!!! :)

  47. Betsy March 15th, 2011 at 1:47 pm

    So why did AGon want to play for Boston so badly? He likes clam chowder?

    Blake, IMO, the trade has already been worthwhile.

  48. The Mets are Pond Scum March 15th, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    NYYROC,

    It is a balance, isn’t it?

    If the guy can play catcher at a reasonably high level, then you’d love to keep the bat back there but you’re almost assuredly going to shorten his window of greatness.

    But if his bat is so potent (Pujols-lite, Cabrera-lite?) and average to mediocre defensively, then you almost have to move the guy.

  49. Pat M. March 15th, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    The deaded re-assignment tag days that are coming……

  50. Betsy March 15th, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    Blake, lol, how asinine is Sherman – just let the M’s rummage around and take what they want. Maybe the Yankees don’t feel they are desperate for Felix – did Joel ever think about that? What kind of a fool GM just says take whatever you want?

  51. The Mets are Pond Scum March 15th, 2011 at 1:50 pm

    Granderson=A fine 2/3 player and a seemingly terrific guy

  52. The Mets are Pond Scum March 15th, 2011 at 1:52 pm

    NYYROC,

    What was wrong with the Ken Phelps deal?

    We only had Mattingly and Jack Clark at the time. Besides, Buhner never looked like he was going to steal 50 bases.

  53. BeholdArNo March 15th, 2011 at 1:55 pm

    If Colon making this team means Mitre is shown the door, Im all for Colon making this team.

  54. upstate kate March 15th, 2011 at 1:55 pm

    I am happy w/ the Granderson trade already. Granderson and Cano were the only two who had good post seasons. You never hear a bad word about Grandy either.

  55. pat March 15th, 2011 at 1:55 pm

    Ken_Rosenthal #Yankees RHP Romulo Sanchez out of options, impressing scouts. Kind of guy who would fit team in need of bullpen help. #MLB

  56. blake March 15th, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    Betsy,

    I don’t think its a stupid opinion….I just don’t agree with it. I think its too much to give up ……however looking at it from the other side, Sabathia and Felix could lead the Yankees to more than one title.

  57. Betsy March 15th, 2011 at 1:59 pm

    Blake, I kind of do think it’s stupid-but then when sportswriters try to come up with trades, they often look like fools.

    Even if we had both pitchers, I would never predict one title, nevermind multiple ones.

  58. ET March 15th, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    “I don’t think its a stupid opinion….I just don’t agree with it. I think its too much to give up ……however looking at it from the other side, Sabathia and Felix could lead the Yankees to more than one title.”

    That would be my thinking as well. Not sure I’d do it, but he’s the only guy in the league who you would even consider doing it for.

  59. blake March 15th, 2011 at 2:03 pm

    Betsy,

    You can’t predict it but Hernandez would give the Yankees arguably the best lineup, bullpen, and a top 5 rotation. I can understand that viewpoint but I still think there is a limit where you’re giving up too much.

  60. MG March 15th, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    The Mets are Pond Scum March 15th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
    NYYROC,

    What was wrong with the Ken Phelps deal?

    We only had Mattingly and Jack Clark at the time. Besides, Buhner never looked like he was going to steal 50 bases.
    ————————————–
    No one said it better than Frank Costanza: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUwSxqnRW-8

  61. stuckey99 March 15th, 2011 at 2:05 pm

    I’d caution everyone to conclude the Yankees have turned some sort of philosophical corner in terms of how they develop players.

    Yankees traded 2 of their Top 10 prospects at the time last season, and tried to trade another, a consensus Top 5 prospect in all of baseball.

    And all top prospects are “untouchable” in interview, as they should be.

    Drafting and “developing” players is a combination of 2 things,

    1.) Identifying them and signing/drafting them.

    2.) Developing them/keeping them healthy.

    In other words, there is a tremendous amount of luck in compiling an attractive group of prospects at one time any which way you slice it.

    What we’re looking at now is in NO question partly a matter of luck.

    Yankees can and certainly should put resources into hiring the best scouts, putting money into Latin America (and other international territories) and customizing their draft picks to the their team profile (paying above slot for high risk/high reward players (Chamberlain/Brackman).

    But again I’d caution anyone into concluding the Yankees have fundamentally changed their strategy.

    ANY player in their system can be had for the right price, and if history teaches us anything, a fair amount of them will.

  62. MG March 15th, 2011 at 2:06 pm

    Or this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

  63. blake March 15th, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    Stuckey,

    That isn’t the point though. Of course any player can be had for the right price…the difference is that since Cashman took over he has devoted a large chunk resources into scouting and development….especially the international market where Cano, Montero….etc were found and has been very reluctant to part win his top guys unless elite talent is.coming in return.

  64. Betsy March 15th, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    Blake, they’d have a very top heavy rotation……..I assume Phil would go, so your next starters are AJ, Nova and…….? They’d also be giving up huge chunks of their future. It’s not going to happen, both that kind of trade and a trade period, but I guess it helps pass the time during ST, lol

  65. blake March 15th, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    In other words…..the Yankees are now operating with an eye on the future in addition to trying to win every year.

  66. The Mets are Pond Scum March 15th, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    MG March 15th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
    The Mets are Pond Scum March 15th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
    NYYROC,

    What was wrong with the Ken Phelps deal?

    We only had Mattingly and Jack Clark at the time. Besides, Buhner never looked like he was going to steal 50 bases.
    ————————————–
    No one said it better than Frank Costanza: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUwSxqnRW-8
    ————————————————————
    Still hilarious.

  67. GreenBeret7 March 15th, 2011 at 2:13 pm

    Watching the Houston/Baltimore game, and they just showed the new home plate umpire’s set-up behind the plate. They called it setting up in the slot…..taking a stance off of the catcher’s left shoulder for left handed hitters and right shoulder for right handed hitters. They said it does two things. better looks inside (but can still see outside corner, but, mainly, it reduces chances of taking foul tips to the head, reducing concussion chances.

  68. blake March 15th, 2011 at 2:13 pm

    Betsy,
    He didn’t suggest Hughes go. He meant any prospect. Sabathia, Hernandez, Hughes, Burnett, Nova would be right there with the Phillies and the best rotation in the AL.

  69. stuckey99 March 15th, 2011 at 2:13 pm

    “I assume Phil would go”…

    Not necessarily, but if he did.

    Sabathia
    Hughes
    Burnett
    Nova
    Garcia/Colon

    Sabathia
    Hernandez
    Burnett
    Nova
    Garcia/Colon

  70. BeholdArNo March 15th, 2011 at 2:14 pm

    I think oft times too much is made of prospects. Felix is the proven commodity. If all it would take to get him is Montero, Banuelos, and couple lower level prospects, I think it’d be the right move. With our minor league catching depth and farm system depth, I think you ship off the unknown for the superstar. However, we’ll never be traded Felix from the Mariners. They’d rather ship him off to their division rivals before they ever trade him to us. So this entire post is moot.

  71. stuckey99 March 15th, 2011 at 2:16 pm

    “In other words…..the Yankees are now operating with an eye on the future in addition to trying to win every year.”

    Not sure they ever didn’t do that.

    Jeter
    Rivera
    Pettitte
    Posada

    Cano
    Chamberlain
    Hughes
    Gardner

    Again, not sure I’m seeing any sea change.

  72. GreenBeret7 March 15th, 2011 at 2:17 pm

    I see they’re still trying to run Hughes out of town. Burnett will be gone in two years after this season, and possibly Sabathia. Hughes is going nowhere. NYYs have been trying to develop pitchers like him for 16 years.

  73. BoJo March 15th, 2011 at 2:18 pm

    Maybe we could get Pujols, Ramirez, McCann, and Upton for our bench while we’re at it.

    Same old “I want a HOFer at each position” mindset….not needed to win it all. We don’t need Felix.

  74. Triple Short of a Cycle March 15th, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    I don’t see the point of even discussing a deal for Felix right now. He is not even on the block and even if he was they would want way more then Montero and Banuelos

  75. blake March 15th, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    Stuckey,

    There was a period of nearly 10 years where the Yanks developed nothing……patching holes via free agency every year.

  76. Betsy March 15th, 2011 at 2:20 pm

    Stuckey, right- that’s pretty top heavy. Still, admittedly it’s a pretty great top – yet, it’s the same concern I had with getting Lee and no Andy.

    We really don’t know who the M’s like. They may not want Phil for a variety of reasons, perhaps especially because he won’t be that cheap anymore and he’ll be a FA soon. Or, maybe they love him because the park suits him. Maybe they love Betances, maybe they love Brackman. Maybe they love other players that we really don’t even talk about much.

  77. The Mets are Pond Scum March 15th, 2011 at 2:20 pm

    It is quite possible that the best years of Felix’s career have already occurred…at around $500K/year (See Johan Santana among a litany of others).

  78. Betsy March 15th, 2011 at 2:20 pm

    Triple, I agree it’s not happening……once the season starts ,there won’t be any talk about Felix.

  79. blake March 15th, 2011 at 2:21 pm

    Bojo,

    That’s not the point at all….discussing something Sherman said on the radio.

  80. MG March 15th, 2011 at 2:22 pm

    Instead of lusting after every great player on other teams (Hernandez, Pujols, etc) how about just being pleased with the team the Yankees put out on the field each and every day, a team that was 2 games away from the WS last year in spite of off years but many key players? Now that the Yankees seem committed to player development (and clearly have some top talent coming to the bigs in the next couple of years) there is no reason they can’t build another dynasty without spending huge $ in free agency.

  81. stuckey99 March 15th, 2011 at 2:24 pm

    Blake,

    To a degree, but I think it was much as a failure of scouting and bad luck as it was an organizational sea change.

    Again, I’m just saying I think the Yankees farm system is currently as much a product of a simple good fortune as anything (though I agree, their aggressiveness in Latin America IS a factor and should continue).

    I read recently the last time the Yankees had 6 prospects in Baseball America was 1999, and I’ll be damned if I know who any of them were…

  82. BeholdArNo March 15th, 2011 at 2:24 pm

    A team may not need Felix, but Felix would make any team better, and any team with half a brain would be interested in him.

    Triple Short You’re probably right. More than just Montero and Banuelos would be required. But again, the Mariners are unlikely to trade Felix, and if they do, they’re even more unlikely to trade him to the Yankees.

  83. blake March 15th, 2011 at 2:26 pm

    “To a degree, but I think it was much as a failure of scouting and bad luck as it was an organizational sea change.”

    The organizational change was to fix the failure of scouting…..which Cashman did when he took over.

  84. BeholdArNo March 15th, 2011 at 2:26 pm

    The acts of lusting after great players on other teams and being pleased with the team the Yankees put on the field each day are not mutually exclusive. One can do both. Like any general manager, some fans hypothesize ways to make their teams better, in the short-term and long-term.

  85. Triple Short of a Cycle March 15th, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    BeholdArNo,

    I agree. He will prob get traded in a couple of years and some team will give up one decent prospect and fillers and we will all scratch our heads and say thats all they gave up. The price to aquire elite talent has gone down except for 1 team

  86. 4time March 15th, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    stucky,

    Not to mention, I doubt they would move Banuelos and Hughes in the same deal. So one of them will almost certainly be in the rotation (if Banuelos, from next year on).

  87. BoJo March 15th, 2011 at 2:28 pm

    Sherman just wants to sell papers and get on radio…not being realistic.

    And as MG points out, we have a lot to be thankful for already, and IMOP don’t need anything more. I’ve even stopped talking about Gio, Santana, and Greinke. Seeing what we have, I think we don’t need any more pieces until at least July. At that point, we’ll see what’s shaking.

  88. blake March 15th, 2011 at 2:29 pm

    Discussing these things on a boring March 15th afternoon doesn’t mean one isn’t happy with the current Yankee personnel ….

  89. Betsy March 15th, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    It’s not like we’re talking about some lousy player, either

  90. GreenBeret7 March 15th, 2011 at 2:31 pm

    Not sure why, but Tampa removed Hellckson after 1.2 innings, allowing 1 hit, 1 run, 2 walks and 1 strikeout. Unless he threw 50 pitches, that’s a short day.

  91. Yanks78 March 15th, 2011 at 2:31 pm

    Doesn’t Felix to the Yankees just seem inevitable though, someday? Just one of those things… like Gonzo was to the Sox (despite people trying to convince themselves otherwise, I think most felt he was always ticketed for Boston probably at a sweetheart deal). Always felt Teixeria was one of those players as well that was ticketed for pinstripes.

    No real logic behind it, just seems inevitable. Maybe not anytime soon though.

  92. stuckey99 March 15th, 2011 at 2:34 pm

    4time, and there is still Betances and Brackman (both BA Top 100 prospects). And Nova and and another big helping of 2nd tier guys (Noesi, Warren, Stoneburner)..

    If the Yankees have what they consider 4 top of the rotation prospects (Hughes, Banuelos, Betances, Brackman) and you can get outta Dodge keeping three of them to go along with a 30 year old Sabathia and a 25 year old Hernandez, and still have a small handful of back-of-the-rotation prospects, how can you not do it?

    Again, the only other area it will hurt as well is catcher, and the Yankees have depth there too, and perhaps a viable major league solution already in place if Russell can get it back together.

    Not like they are trading their stud outfield or high-level SS prospect. If they could get a perennial Cy Young candidate while dealing from the organizational depth, no brainer to me.

  93. Joe from Long Island March 15th, 2011 at 2:35 pm

    GB – that’s interesting. We’ll need to follow up on that item.

  94. stuckey99 March 15th, 2011 at 2:36 pm

    “The organizational change was to fix the failure of scouting…..which Cashman did when he took over.”

    Agrees somewhat, but sometimes an improvement isn’t necessarily a “change”, philosophically speaking.

  95. Mell March 15th, 2011 at 2:38 pm

    Hellickson’s early departure = blister

  96. stuckey99 March 15th, 2011 at 2:38 pm

    and btw – if the Mariners are finished by May (which we all expect) and the Yankees are hanging around a small pack of potential postseason qualifiers by June, the Hernandez talk is only going to intensify, not go away.

  97. GreenBeret7 March 15th, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    Joe in LI, I’m trying to find something on it. May have to tune in the game and stomach listening to Staatz and McGrane.

  98. Mell March 15th, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    Hellickson’s blister developed on right ring finger.

  99. Yankees Gameday March 15th, 2011 at 2:46 pm

    Colon keeps pitching well and impressing people outside of the Yanks. With his opt out clause, isn’t it smart to do a SIGN AND TRADE? here’s how:

    http://yankeesgameday.blogspot.....trade.html

  100. stuckey99 March 15th, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    “@MLBRumorCentral The Rangers are looking for a closer, and their skipper wants one via trade #rangers”

    Rangers have one of the game’s consensus top farm systems.

    Who’d want to dangle Joba at them?

  101. SJ44 March 15th, 2011 at 2:53 pm

    There is no sign and trade.

    If you are going to pump your blog here daily, at least understand how the baseball business works.

    Nobody is trading for Bartolo Colon. If you “sign” him, he has to take a spot on the 40 man roster.

    The Yankees aren’t burning a 40 man spot to sign a guy that has no trade value.

    It’s not how the business works.

    If they sign him to a major league contract, it will be because he’s made the roster.

  102. stuckey99 March 15th, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    “Colon keeps pitching well and impressing people outside of the Yanks. With his opt out clause, isn’t it smart to do a SIGN AND TRADE? here’s how:

    http://yankeesgameday.blogspot…..trade.html”

    Dude, how many weeks are you going to peddle this?

    Best case scenario Colon would get you back some low-level middling prospect. No one believes strongly enough in Colon’s health to give anything significant for him in return.

    Wasted energy here…

  103. BoJo March 15th, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    1999 top Baseball America Yankee prospects included Nick Johnson (18), Ryan Bradley (25), Alfonso Soriano (39), Ricky Ledee (70), Jackson Melian (72), and Drew Henson (100). Only three of those guys made the top 50, though.

  104. SJ44 March 15th, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    Felix may end up back in the bullpen before all is said and done.

    He’s made it clear to the Rangers he would rather close than start.

    Will be interesting to see what they do.

  105. SJ44 March 15th, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    “Feliz”. Sorry for the typo.

  106. GreenBeret7 March 15th, 2011 at 2:58 pm

    One more bad game by Lance Pendleton and Houston will be shipping him back to the Yankees.

  107. Mell March 15th, 2011 at 3:00 pm

    “He’s made it clear to the Rangers he would rather close than start”

    Apparently he reversed fields last night and told the masses that he’d like to start.

  108. stuckey99 March 15th, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    “1999 top Baseball America Yankee prospects included Nick Johnson (18), Ryan Bradley (25), Alfonso Soriano (39), Ricky Ledee (70), Jackson Melian (72), and Drew Henson (100). Only three of those guys made the top 50, though.”

    And the 3 that did anything all made it to the Bronx.

  109. GreenBeret7 March 15th, 2011 at 3:05 pm

    Hitters are starting to catch up. houston’s Brett Wallace is 4-5 with 2 doubles, a grand slam and 7 RBI.

  110. BeholdArNo March 15th, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    Mell SJ didn’t look on ESPN for his breaking news today. He went with last week’s ESPN breaking news. If he’s going to pass off ESPN’s news as his own, and not even do it correctly, he’s going to get called on it.

  111. BeholdArNo March 15th, 2011 at 3:12 pm

    new post

  112. Mell March 15th, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    Behold:

    I’m not calling anyone out on anything. Feliz made his most recent pronouncement after a Cactus League game last night. Not out of the realm of possibility that some hadn’t yet taken notice.

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