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Wednesday notes: Super again, Nova dazzles against O’s

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In the bullpen before tonight’s game, Ivan Nova’s curveball was erratic. He’d throw one for a strike, then sail one out of the zone. Without a good feel for his primary breaking ball, Nova started warming up a reworked slider that he hadn’t been using this spring. It was sharp and consistent, and when Nova carried it into the game, he used it on three of his four strikeouts.

“That’s as good as it gets,” Joe Girardi said. “It’s the best pitching performance we’ve had probably in spring training.”

Nova plunked the first batter he faced, then he retired 10 in a row. He pitched six hitless innings tonight, and got 11 outs on the ground. Only one of his last 12 outs was hit in the air. This was Nova at his best. He was locating his fastball down in the zone to generate plenty of routine grounders, and when he had a strikeout count, he was able to go to that reconstructed slider for swings and misses. His fastball and slider were so good, he didn’t throw a single changeup tonight.

“No one seemed comfortable in the box,” Russell Martin said. “He impressed me out there, and I think he impressed himself.”

Nova threw a slider last year, but it wasn’t especially effective, so he tried to learn a cutter. The pitch he meant to be a cutter, actually behaves like the slider he was trying to throw in the first place. Nova calls it a slider, but said he throws it like a cutter and tries to think “cutter” when he uses it.

“My slider is like a new toy,” he said. “I have to start playing with it some time, not too much, but I feel comfortable with all my pitches.”

Coming off a rocky start in his previous outing, Nova made a big impression tonight. All four rotation candidates have shown something this spring, and the Yankees seem happy with all four. But this is certainly the standout performance of the spring, an outing so good Nova was scheduled for only five innings, made it through six, and still had to go to the bullpen to throw 15 more pitches.

“I showed myself how good I am,” Nova said. “I have to keep trusting myself and keep pitching my game.”

Here’s Nova.

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• Girardi’s reaction to Nick Swisher’s leap over the dugout fence going after a foul ball: “Outstanding play. Great effort. Don’t do it again.”

• Martin’s knee feels so strong that he’s stopped wearing the protective brace. “I’m not even worried about it now,” he said.

• Rafael Soriano told the Yankees that he didn’t want to pitch against an American League East team in spring training, so he was scratched from tonight’s game and will pitch at the minor league complex tomorrow. I believe that will be their first set of minor league intrasquad games.

• Mark Teixeira was hit by a pitch in the hand — apparently it managed to make contact with both hands somehow — but he’s fine. “It’s unbelievable how much that guy gets hit,” Girardi said.

• Boone Logan is scheduled to pitch tomorrow. He was shutdown very briefly early in spring training because of slight elbow fatigue, and he’s since been pitching sim games just so that he didn’t have to go on some road trips (kind of a we-owe-you-one after he went on the road without pitching earlier in the spring). He said he feels great, just hasn’t been in a real game in a while.

• The Yankees allowed only one hit tonight. Of all people, it was Mariano Rivera who gave it up. Rivera, Mark Prior and Dave Robertson threw scoreless innings out of the bullpen.

• First time seeing the full lineup and the Yankees beat the Orioles 10-0. The O’s were using a series of relievers tonight, and the Yankees everyday players accounted for eight RBI.

• Mark Teixeira had two doubles tonight, giving him seven for the spring. Teixeira took a lot of extra swings this winter, and so far it seems to be paying off with production he hopes to carry into April. “Every indication is he’s going to do fine and get off to a good start,” Long said. “The amount of work he’s put in, that helps. Now you start to build muscle memory at a much earlier time than he’s been accustomed to, and a lot of that is going to sink in. I think he’s going to be more comfortable from the get-go.”

• Alex Rodriguez hit his third spring home run, a no-doubt shot to left-center. He’s really been swinging the bat well this spring.

• The only non-everyday Yankees to have a hit tonight were Eric Chavez — of course — and Jesus Montero.

• Francisco Cervelli was able to play catch while wearing his protective boot today.

• Here’s Joba Chamberlain speaking about his oblique injury: “I don’t know the severity of what’s going on,” he said. “I know how I feel and what I can do. There’s nothing that I can’t do. I played catch the day after it happened. We’ll err on the side of caution now instead of trying to be aggressive. During the season, we’d still probably take the two days to make sure it didn’t linger the rest of the year.”

• How productive can Robinson Cano be? “I wouldn’t be surprised if Cano hit 40 home runs,” Kevin Long said. “He hit 29 (last year). Could he hit 40? Why not? It’s a big number – and not something that’s a goal – but could he do it? I don’t think there’s anybody standing here that thinks he can’t.”

• There was one guy in the Yankees clubhouse who doubted that number. it was Cano himself. “No chance,” Cano said. “Maybe if you put an extra half-season… To be honest, that’s not in my mind. I don’t think I’m a home run hitter. Most of my home runs are line drives. I don’t want that kind of thing in my mind. If it hit it, thank God, but it’s not on my mind.”

• Just saw this tonight: Curtis Granderson is doing his NCAA Tournament challenge. It’s a chance to donate $10 to his foundation and get a chance to win some prizes. Not sure how much time is left to sign up. I just found out or would have posted earlier. (thanks to Matt for the email heads up)

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284 Responses to “Wednesday notes: Super again, Nova dazzles against O’s”

  1. Betsy March 16th, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    I really don’t want Cano trying for HRs – that’s a sure way to ruin a swing – so I wish Long hadn’t said that. Fortunately, I believe Cano responded with a “no way”, lol.

    Good to hear that Martin’s knee is holding up well.

  2. MG March 16th, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    Based on the way the pitchers are throwing this spring I guess Cashman didn’t do as bad a job as many posters kept repeating all during December and January. The last time I checked there is no World Series trophy for off season ‘victories’ in the media.

  3. yankeefeminista March 16th, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    Good stuff on Nova’s slider/cutter, Chad.

  4. Rich in NJ March 16th, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    I think Cash did fine, in large part because I think the key for the Yankees is not to make moves. I hope it continues.

  5. yanks 27 March 16th, 2011 at 10:44 pm

    Loved his secondary stuff. It is great that he had a place to go when his curve wasn’t working. He is developing at a very quick pace.

  6. Betsy March 16th, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    I guess the fruits of Cash’s labor with regards to the farm are starting to bear fruit – exciting times for sure

  7. Rich in NJ March 16th, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    Cano doesn’t have to try to hit HR. He just needs to keep hitting tons of hard LD.

  8. m March 16th, 2011 at 10:50 pm

    Super-Nova. :)

  9. Rich in NJ March 16th, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    Chris Berman lives!

  10. JRod March 16th, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    Let’s just make it easy and refer to the pitch as a slutter

  11. Betsy March 16th, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    Oh please, let Berman go back-back-back-back where he belongs, lol

    Rich, I agree with that – that’s why I think Long didn’t need to say anything

  12. JRod March 16th, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    Just googled slutter. I take back my previous post. That’s what Papelbum calls his pitch. I’m ashamed of myself.

  13. MG March 16th, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    Since there is one poster obsessed with the need to always be right no matter how inane or off topic, just for the record regarding Nova:

    West Coast Yankee Fan December 27th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
    Face I am in no way changing the subject. We were all talking about the Yankees rotation and your depth chart which included Noesi and Phelps.

    As to Nova, suffice it to say you rely far too much on stats and metrics which are often deceiving and have no ability to project the future. I think you know this. Or shall I remind you that Bob Gibson was 6-11 with a 5.61 ERA when he was 24. It works both ways too. There are many pitchers who had great first years who bombed after that.

    But I’ll play along. Instead of cherry picking Nova’s stats like you just did, with the 4.50 ERA. What about his giving up more hits than innings pitched? Or his 1.452 WHIP? Or his 10 hits allowed per nine innings pitched?
    ================================
    MG December 27th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
    Nova’s stats in the majors last season mean nothing. He showed the talent and stuff to be a successful starter in the majors, he just needs to work at refining his craft and have the Yankees live with the ups and downs. If it’s me running the team (it’s not) I put him in the rotation until he shows me he isn’t interested in improvement.

    That’s the thing that makes Phil Hughes special in my eye, he obviously wants to be a star in the league and continues to work at it. And that’s exactly the trait that Chamberlain is missing, unfortunately
    ==================================
    West Coast Yankee Fan December 27th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
    I do not dislike Ivan Nova, I think he has a good arm and a good future. What I object to is slotting him in as our number four starter; it’s not desirable, it’s no one’s first choice and there is no excuse imaginable for the Yankees being in this position.
    ————————————————–

  14. I Like Inge March 16th, 2011 at 10:59 pm

    I like Nova. Big Man. Big Arm. Big swag. The kid has got something. Hope he gets a spot in the rotation.

  15. tyanksfan36 March 16th, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    On my way home I was thinking about tonights game. I know its Spring Training but that was probably the best pitched game I’ve ever been to. I’m going to hit the shower and then post some pictures and a blog entry hopefully before I go to bed for those who read them.

  16. Dionysius Thelxinoe March 16th, 2011 at 11:13 pm

    MG says:
    March 16, 2011 at 10:40 pm
    Based on the way the pitchers are throwing this spring I guess Cashman didn’t do as bad a job as many posters kept repeating all during December and January. The last time I checked there is no World Series trophy for off season ‘victories’ in the media.

    ————-

    Agree 100%

    Bandwagon fans saw the RS sign Crawford and trade for AGon and ignored their problematic pitching, declaring Cashman’s winter a failure.

    Tonight it’s ‘I knew it all along!’

  17. West Coast Yankee Fan March 16th, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    MG March 16th, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    Based on the way the pitchers are throwing this spring I guess Cashman didn’t do as bad a job as many posters kept repeating all during December and January. The last time I checked there is no World Series trophy for off season ‘victories’ in the media.

    ***************

    The last time I checked there is no World Series trophy for spring training ‘victories’.

  18. stuckey99 March 16th, 2011 at 11:18 pm

    As well as ignored the fact the Yankees has finished 6 and 8 games ahead of the Sox the last 2 years.

  19. Rich in NJ March 16th, 2011 at 11:19 pm

    “The last time I checked there is no World Series trophy for spring training ‘victories’.”

    Even if Nova lost, his outing would have been a constructive victory.

    But that was a not awful way to play an unwinnable hand.

  20. West Coast Yankee Fan March 16th, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    “Based on the way the pitchers are throwing this spring I guess Cashman didn’t do as bad a job as many posters kept repeating all during December and January.”

    *******************

    And this is the conclusion based on spring training results? It’s one thing to say Nova has beaten out two older reclamation projects for a spot in the rotation. It’s quite another to see how the rotation plays out and where the Yankees are in October.

  21. Rich in NJ March 16th, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    “And this is the conclusion based on spring training results? It’s one thing to say Nova has beaten out two older reclamation projects for a spot in the rotation. It’s quite another to see how the rotation plays out and where the Yankees are in October.

    Implicit in your post is that Cash has until the trading deadline to improve the team, if necessary, and that Nova’s emergence to this early point makes Cash’s decision to wait to make a big move look quite smart.

  22. m March 16th, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    Stop moving the goal posts. :mad:

  23. West Coast Yankee Fan March 16th, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    Ivan Nova was not supposed to be slotted in as our number four starter. That was not Cashman’s plan. The desired rotation for Cashman and most all Yankee fans was Sabathia, Lee, Burnett, Hughes and Pettitte.

    That didn’t work out and as I have said the last month or two more than a couple of times, Cashman has done a decent job throwing options into the pot. I gave him credit.

  24. West Coast Yankee Fan March 16th, 2011 at 11:27 pm

    It’s not only implicit I said so pointedly the other day. If we get to mid-season and are able to pick up a good arm — and Colon or Garcia get us there, that would be a good thing.

    I am not adverse to giving Cashman credit where I think it’s warranted. I have done so repeatedly in the last few months. Prior to that, specifically last year, I thought he did a poor job. And, so did he.

  25. Rich in NJ March 16th, 2011 at 11:28 pm

    Cash’s plan, apart from signing the ageist, was to develop as many pitching prospects as possible to make it more likely that they would have in-house choices.

  26. SAS March 16th, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    The last thread is something I have been thinking about. It is easy to cut the guys who have been sent to the minors…those last couple of cuts or return to the minors is the hard part. I have a couple of extra players I would like to keep on the team…..but that’s not going to happen.

  27. pat March 16th, 2011 at 11:30 pm

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  28. West Coast Yankee Fan March 16th, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    Cashman has done a very good job developing pitching talent in the minors. Those in-house choices aren’t ready though, with the exception of Nova. That’s why old and oft injured players like Colon and Garcia are in camp.

  29. West Coast Yankee Fan March 16th, 2011 at 11:31 pm

    Late for Sushi. Thanks and good night.

  30. Betsy March 16th, 2011 at 11:32 pm

    Rich, lol – Lee is an ageist and a black kettle

  31. m March 16th, 2011 at 11:33 pm

    WCYF,

    You said in the last two threads that Nova was always going to be the 4th starter, no? (btw it’s standard blog etiquette to put “repost” when you copy and paste in another thread)

    Anyway, we’re just a little irritated by the ” I told you so”.
    Anyway It’s obvious that people change their minds all time, no?

  32. Rich in NJ March 16th, 2011 at 11:34 pm

    They may or may not be “ready.” That’s a relative term though. On some teams, Banuelos might go north (or east or west) with their team, as might some others.

  33. Rich in NJ March 16th, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    Betsy

    Old ageists are the worst kind.

  34. Betsy March 16th, 2011 at 11:42 pm

    Yep – they’re self-loathing ageists, no doubt. Lee probably cries himself to sleep at night.

  35. Mike_Boston March 16th, 2011 at 11:49 pm

    1 of the Boston writers was asked about the sox pen and Aceves was not on his roster, he didn’t even name him as an option. He got a major league deal so does that mean they stash him in minors?

  36. Dionysius Thelxinoe March 16th, 2011 at 11:53 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan says:
    March 16, 2011 at 9:56 pm
    Nova was always going to the the number four starter unless he got injured or inexplicably lost his stuff. Just blog chatter.

    West Coast Yankee Fan says:
    March 16, 2011 at 11:24 pm
    Ivan Nova was not supposed to be slotted in as our number four starter.

    —————–

    Whoa!!!

    (cue Twilight Zone theme)

  37. m March 16th, 2011 at 11:54 pm

    How can Aceves not be on his list? He’s the PERFECT long/swing man. Unfortunately. :(

  38. Rich in NJ March 16th, 2011 at 11:57 pm

    Has Aceves recovered his pre-multiple injury form?

  39. Jerkface March 16th, 2011 at 11:57 pm

    Nova was always going to the the number four starter unless he got injured or inexplicably lost his stuff. Just blog chatter.

    Is this the same as when you said you weren’t sold on Nova, and that Cashman knows he couldn’t go into the season with Nova as the fourth starter? I take it this outing changed your mind?

  40. Dionysius Thelxinoe March 17th, 2011 at 12:02 am

    Jerkface says:
    March 16, 2011 at 11:57 pm
    Nova was always going to the the number four starter unless he got injured or inexplicably lost his stuff. Just blog chatter.

    Is this the same as when you said you weren’t sold on Nova, and that Cashman knows he couldn’t go into the season with Nova as the fourth starter? I take it this outing changed your mind?

    ————

    The uncertainty in the RS rotation helps.

  41. Jerkface March 17th, 2011 at 12:03 am

    Oh in my haste to correct WCYF on his bumbling I-told-you-so, it appears he got walloped by everyone else in the meantime :x

  42. Mike_Boston March 17th, 2011 at 12:08 am

    The last guy on his list was atchison, with pap, bard, okijima, wake (assume he’s long man), jenks and wheeler.

  43. GreenBeret7 March 17th, 2011 at 12:11 am

    How is that possible with Miller having thrown the best bullpen that anybody has ever seen?

  44. m March 17th, 2011 at 12:14 am

    I can understand Wake on there, but I think Atchinson should be replaced by Aceves. Hoping they cut Aceves loose, tho!

  45. Jerkface March 17th, 2011 at 12:15 am

    Aceves has an option, they can just option him.

  46. Dionysius Thelxinoe March 17th, 2011 at 12:16 am

    Mike_Boston says:
    March 17, 2011 at 12:08 am
    The last guy on his list was atchison, with pap, bard, okijima, wake (assume he’s long man), jenks and wheeler.

    —————

    I like this bullpen …… for the Yanks.

    I always liked Ace. I hope he does well (except against us). But the Yankees have to know more about his back condition than anyone else. I doubt it holds up to the rigors of an entire season.

  47. BeholdArNo March 17th, 2011 at 12:16 am

    What amazes about Ass-eves is that he wasn’t interested in being healthy to pitch for us. Every time the Yankees wanted him to pitch again, he had another injury preventing him from coming back. But sign with the Red Sox, and all those injuries magically disappear. Im glad the Yankees didn’t resign him, he obviously wasn’t interested in helping our organization any longer.

  48. Mike_Boston March 17th, 2011 at 12:21 am

    The ironic thing is Ace hurt his back, if i remember correctly, in a Boston hotel last year.

  49. BeholdArNo March 17th, 2011 at 12:21 am

    *had another setback preventing…

  50. G. Love March 17th, 2011 at 12:24 am

    Aceves signed a minor league deal with them and agreed to go to the minors for them. From what I recall the Mets offered Aceves a major league deal and he turned it down…probably because the Wilpons are paying players in Monopoly money and Shake Shack burgers this season.

  51. BeholdArNo March 17th, 2011 at 12:25 am

    G Love I think he did as well. You’d think he’d try to repay the Yankees franchise and sign the minor-league deal we offered him…

  52. stuckey99 March 17th, 2011 at 12:31 am

    “You’d think he’d try to repay the Yankees franchise and sign the minor-league deal we offered him…”

    Repay the Yankees the essentially minimum salary the Major League Collective Bargaining Agreement required they pay him?

    Ah, okay…

  53. BeholdArNo March 17th, 2011 at 12:33 am

    Yes.

  54. m March 17th, 2011 at 12:34 am

    I keep thinking it was a major league desk. But u do remember reading they might stash Aceves in AAA as a starter.

    I don’t blame Aceves for going out and gaining employment with Boston. But iirc he said he chose the Sox so he could pitch (specifically) against the Yankees. Like he was bitter.

    Who was resistant to the idea if Aceves having surgery? They were never on the same page about it and there could’ve

  55. G. Love March 17th, 2011 at 12:34 am

    He clearly went to the Red Sox to get some kind of revenge on the Yankees. Aceves feels he was treated poorly and the Yankees feel he wasn’t dependable.

    That said, he’s not going to be the difference maker this season for Boston nor would he have been one here. He’s a 5th starter/long man.

    If he was jaking it last year with the Yankees and not doing the work to come back and help the team, then good riddance. If the Yankees were bullies who didn’t want to put up with his uncertainty of health they had every right to treat him the way they did since they would be paying him hundreds of thousands of dollars or over a million. I forget what he was making here.

    I know there is a poster who comes in here sometimes who knows Aceves personally. He seemed to indicate that Aceves was hurt by the Yankees disinterest in him before signing with the Red Sox.

  56. m March 17th, 2011 at 12:35 am

    …been some resentment.

  57. m March 17th, 2011 at 12:39 am

    Sorry that’s major league deal and I not u.

    I’m not drinking
    I promise!

  58. Mike_Boston March 17th, 2011 at 12:41 am

    I have enough faith in the front office that if they thought he could help them they wouldn’t have let him walk, especially with question marks at 4/5, and to the sox of all teams. My feeling is they didn’t trust his health/regimen enough to warrant a spot. We all know backs are tricky and he never wound up getting the surgery, did he? Very rarely do those problems just go away.

  59. G. Love March 17th, 2011 at 12:42 am

    A little late to the party, but after what we saw from Nova tonight, there is no way the Yankees can demote him to keep Mitre or Colon as insurance policies.

    Nova needs to start the season in the rotation.

    Now I just wish Girardi would allow Gardner to lead off at least against RHP, but apparently that’s too much to ask. Taking at bats away from Gardner by batting him 9th is beyond stupid.

  60. BeholdArNo March 17th, 2011 at 12:44 am

    Mike You’re right. Let’s hope. Anyhow, Im done discussing that guy. He isn’t even worth the time or effort.

    What Grandy is doing is very unique and cool.

  61. Mike_Boston March 17th, 2011 at 12:45 am

    I agree Gardner needs to lead off but I also don’t like Jeter in the 2-hole. The reason he was moved out of there was because of all his GDIP’s. Not sure what that would be any different now?

  62. m March 17th, 2011 at 12:46 am

    G. Love,

    I think Girardi said he was going to fool around with the lineup some more. But he also said Jones was signed to play against RH pitching. That could mean less playing time for Gardner. :mad:

  63. Mike_Boston March 17th, 2011 at 12:46 am

    Not sure*why

  64. Dionysius Thelxinoe March 17th, 2011 at 12:48 am

    I have a feeling if Gardner gets off to a good start, like he did last season, he’ll be moved to leadoff.

    Just a hunch.

  65. Dionysius Thelxinoe March 17th, 2011 at 12:50 am

    m says:
    March 17, 2011 at 12:46 am
    G. Love,

    I think Girardi said he was going to fool around with the lineup some more. But he also said Jones was signed to play against RH pitching. That could mean less playing time for Gardner.

    ——

    Did you mean LH? And if so, why wouldn’t they sit Grandy more often than Brett?

  66. m March 17th, 2011 at 12:54 am

    Yes. LHP. Not. Drinking. Promise. :oops:

  67. West Coast Yankee Fan March 17th, 2011 at 12:56 am

    Nothing like some Hamachi Sashimi and a Kirin to make one feel better!

    Regarding Nova. What I said then (December) and now (March) makes perfect sense and is perfectly consistent.

    December 27th after Lee signed with the Phillies, before Pettitte retired in February, and before Colon and Garcia were even on the radar — I said I objected to Nova being chosen as the fourth starter. I said at the time that he was no one’s first choice. That was true in December in my opinion.

    After Lee split, tell me how with Sabathia, Hughes, Burnett and Pettitte on the roster and with the hope that Cashman might sign another starter — how was Nova the first choice to be the number four in December?

    March 16th I said – Nova was always going to the the number four starter unless he got injured or inexplicably lost his stuff. Clearly that statement reflects the reality today, in March, after Pettitte’s retirement and in reference to the competition in spring training with Colon, Garcia and Mitre. I never thought those guys would or should be chosen instead of him. It was his job to lose at the start of spring training, just like Hughes last year.

    That’s as clear as can IMO

  68. m March 17th, 2011 at 1:01 am

    Why so serious WCYF? It’s just mindless blog chatter.

    ;)

    It was just so funny that you were trying to rub people’s nose in it. You know us, we don’t take ourselves seriously here.

  69. Dionysius Thelxinoe March 17th, 2011 at 1:08 am

    I get it now!

    Before you were for it, you were against it.

  70. Jerkface March 17th, 2011 at 1:09 am

    WCYF you were, in December, suggesting that Nova could not hack in the AL east. Please, no back peddling :) Don’t you ever admit to being wrong?

    Re: Aceves, he signed a split contract. He is on the red sox 40 man (major league deal) but only gets 200k if he gets optioned to the minors. HE can make more if he comes up to the majors. Its a ‘major league deal’ because he got put on the 40 man.

  71. Jerkface March 17th, 2011 at 1:10 am

    The Yankees only offered Aceves a minor league deal.

  72. West Coast Yankee Fan March 17th, 2011 at 1:12 am

    Jerkface surely you jest? YOU! Who have never admitted to be wrong about anything and who argues just to argue. Funny.

  73. West Coast Yankee Fan March 17th, 2011 at 1:13 am

    And that is not what I said. I explained it clearly.

  74. West Coast Yankee Fan March 17th, 2011 at 1:18 am

    I do love this blog! Such engaging entertainment and passion and it’s free! Night all.

  75. m March 17th, 2011 at 1:21 am

    And nobody here said Nova should go to Scranton. Just that it was a possibility.

    And you still felt the need to be snide about it. And you couldn’t just leave it at that. You felt the need to drag it to a new thread.

    And then when you get faced off with your own inconsistencies, you weave a take that no one can understand, nor really cares about.

  76. Bo knows March 17th, 2011 at 1:25 am

    Yep, he’s still deliberating what goes better with wild boar. Brunello or Barolo. Oy.

  77. BeholdArNo March 17th, 2011 at 1:26 am

    I understand West Coast’s explanation. His opinion changed based on circumstance.

    Thanks Jerkface for the info. I guess that makes a huge difference. However, I still think it would have been the right thing to do for him to take our minor-league deal.

    Anyone remember Octavio Dotel saying in his free agent year that he would resign with the Yankees because he owed us…for signing him to that 2 year deal, knowing he would be out for the 1st year. LOL @ how that turned out!

  78. West Coast Yankee Fan March 17th, 2011 at 1:29 am

    M show me where I did that. It’s your imagination. It was just a failed attempt by MG and Bojo two trolls from another board to provoke – you can go back and that’s clear.

  79. West Coast Yankee Fan March 17th, 2011 at 1:31 am

    Anyone with any common sense can see that the Yankees pitching situation is different in March than it was in December.

  80. m March 17th, 2011 at 1:32 am

    I’m sorry, but he didn’t think Nova was good enough to be the #4 whenever ago. He’s pitching as good now as he was last year. Nothing has changed regarding Nova.

    Everyone has the right to change their mind, just don’t get all sanctimonious about it like that’s what you thought all along when it wasn’t.

  81. Bo knows March 17th, 2011 at 1:33 am

    Aceves is still one of my favorites. The Yankees gave him a chance at the Majors and he repaid them. No one owes the other anything. With his back and age it’s a short term career, he has to look after himself. Besides, his wife blows away all the bleached blondes that infest the Majors. She is Major League.

  82. Jerkface March 17th, 2011 at 1:35 am

    Anyone with any common sense can see that the Yankees pitching situation is different in March than it was in December.

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  83. Jerkface March 17th, 2011 at 1:36 am

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  84. West Coast Yankee Fan March 17th, 2011 at 1:37 am

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  85. West Coast Yankee Fan March 17th, 2011 at 1:38 am

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  86. m March 17th, 2011 at 1:40 am

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  88. Jerkface March 17th, 2011 at 1:42 am

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  91. kd March 17th, 2011 at 2:56 am

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    and just remember, he’s probably between number 4 and 7 on the list of top arms in the farm system.

    the trade deadline is going to be fun

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    The point we raised was that you were trying to be an “I told you so” when it was obvious that you change3d your point of view. You tried to imply that you were better than others when you said something to the effect that certain people made good predictions (implying you did) and others didn’t.

    I knew all I had to do here was point out the line and people would jump all over you….ne need to even fight you.

    And of course, your typical approach to responding was to try to change the topic, then confuse the topic, and finally blame others.

    Thanks for once again taking everybody on a tour of your bizzaro world and the way your childish mind works.

    Good night.

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  93. BoJo March 17th, 2011 at 4:32 am

    BTW–Bo Knows and Bojo are two different people. Are you getting so flustered that you are seeing me everywhere again?

  94. tyanksfan36 March 17th, 2011 at 5:49 am

    Good morning morning people. I slept like 3 hours last night and now its time to go to work and take care of children. I hope I’m up for it. If you read my blog I posted an entry with pictures and stuff. Its not too bad so check it out if you have time.

  95. joeman March 17th, 2011 at 5:54 am

    Safety saves, Accidents cost you.

  96. joeman March 17th, 2011 at 5:57 am

    once more…UCONN goes out in their 1st rd game

  97. Doreen March 17th, 2011 at 6:41 am

    tyanksfan36 -

    Have a great day with the kid today – you should be energized!

    Loved reading your blog. Your enthusiasm is infectious. :)

  98. upstate kate March 17th, 2011 at 6:46 am

    Happy St Pats!!!
    Can’t wait to read your blog Tyanks…what a great game you got to see!

  99. Doreen March 17th, 2011 at 6:49 am

    Good morning, kate.

    Happy St. Patrick’s Day!

    Good morning, morning people. :)

  100. tyanksfan36 March 17th, 2011 at 6:50 am

    Thanks Doreen

    Let me tell you, I haven’t gotten up this early in a week so it was definitely a struggle to make it here. I’m glad you like my blog, I enjoy writing and working on it. That was my last spring training game but I’m going to at least one of each of the minor league spring training games at the complex across the street in the next 2 weeks. I also found out my tampa yankees season ticket order processed so I’m looking forward to picking those up.

  101. Tar March 17th, 2011 at 6:57 am

    Good morning everyone.

    tyanks

    Great job! Very funny too.

  102. tyanksfan36 March 17th, 2011 at 7:00 am

    Kate

    It really was a great game, it wasn’t until my ride home was I able to take in how great that game was. I’ve been to some high scoring games but never a game with just one hit. Nova has been a favorite of mine since he came up last season so that just made me like him even more.

    Happy St. Patty’s day to you, I am wearing my green pants and shamrock ribbon in my hair. Somehow I managed to remember that today was a holiday and got dressed for it.

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  104. tyanksfan36 March 17th, 2011 at 7:13 am

    Thanks Tar! I’m glad you enjoyed it.

  105. upstate kate March 17th, 2011 at 7:20 am

    I think I have you beat Tyanks…not only do I have a green top and sweater on but also my NY Yankees shamrock sox!

  106. tyanksfan36 March 17th, 2011 at 7:26 am

    Ah Kate you do have me beat. I was looking for my shamrock socks this morning but I couldn’t find them. I probably took them out last month so I wouldn’t forget them and misplaced them. My fingernails are painted green though.

  107. upstate kate March 17th, 2011 at 7:38 am

    oh bonus points for that :)

  108. blake March 17th, 2011 at 7:46 am

    Morning everyone…..

    Ivan Nova > john Lackey…….in performance, age, upside, and cost. :(

  109. upstate kate March 17th, 2011 at 7:49 am

    espn called him SuperNova…stealing the term from MTU and whoever else first came up w/ it!

  110. blake March 17th, 2011 at 7:54 am

    MTU was the first I saw to use that term…..he’s so witty.

  111. Doreen March 17th, 2011 at 7:55 am

    I don’t think I own anything green. It’s not my color! LOL But I did at least find something green for my daughter to wear to school today. :)

  112. MG March 17th, 2011 at 7:57 am

    West Coast Yankee Fan December 27th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
    I do not dislike Ivan Nova, I think he has a good arm and a good future. What I object to is slotting him in as our number four starter; it’s not desirable, it’s no one’s first choice and there is no excuse imaginable for the Yankees being in this position
    ——————————————————–
    There is nothing funnier than reading someone try to turn the above quote into something other than what it is, that the Yankees should not be in the position where Nova is the #4 starter and that there is no excuse for being in that position. And then lashing out like a petulant child at anyone who called him on this.

    How about they Yankees just deciding last year that Nova had everything needed to be the #4 starter and making a spot for him in the rotation unless they signed Lee and Andy came back for another year, which is exactly what happened?

    Common sense and logic, what a great combination…

  113. upstate kate March 17th, 2011 at 8:01 am

    All I can say is what an outstanding performance by Nova. Also good performances by Mo, Prior and D-rob. Great night for Yankee pitching and hitting :)

  114. Ys Guy March 17th, 2011 at 8:02 am

    forest green phoenix coyote jersey over a dark green T

    kelly green chuck T high top sneaks, dark green jeans.

    …only on st. patrick’s day! :)

  115. Doreen March 17th, 2011 at 8:03 am

    I can’t believe Nova got through 6 innings with only 59 pitches. They wanted him to be efficient – boy, did he ever deliver.

    Happy for him.

  116. upstate kate March 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am

    good for you Ys Guy!

    yeah, Nova made it past the dreaded 5th inning in style!

  117. blake March 17th, 2011 at 8:09 am

    I broke out the solid green scrubs today…..I got pinched about 500 times last year

  118. upstate kate March 17th, 2011 at 8:13 am

    oh admit it Blake, you liked the pinching!

  119. Betsy March 17th, 2011 at 8:15 am

    Hi all!

    I’m not wearing any green whatsoever (I’m not Irish nor Catholic), but I’m still hoping someone in my office will have made cupcakes or a cake for the holiday, lol

  120. pat March 17th, 2011 at 8:23 am

    Happy St. Me Day everyone!

    On a morning when everyone was looking to leave the house with something green, I’ve discovered I haven’t bought much in the way of green clothing without it being Chistmas related for anyone lately. I could outfit a small country if someone comes up with a blue, black or khaki holiday though.

  121. tyanksfan36 March 17th, 2011 at 8:24 am

    Well I unfortunately have to wear a uniform to work so all I could get away with was the green pants.

    Nova was great last night. I’ve never seen such a dominant performance, normally I’m too nervous to watch no hitters but since I was there I had no choice and I’m glad I didn’t miss anything. Hopefully he continues to perform like that and wins his spot in the rotation. For a guy not even in the top 10 prospects he sure is good.

  122. Triple Short of a Cycle March 17th, 2011 at 8:29 am

    I’m eating green m and m’s

  123. MTU March 17th, 2011 at 8:31 am

    What a performance by Nova.

    He must have kised the Blarney stone a day early.

    My 2 names for him are SuperNova and NovaCaine.

    He’s in. It comes down to 3 guys for 2 spots.

    :)

  124. Erin March 17th, 2011 at 8:31 am

    Happy St. Patrick’s Day

    Had to break out my Luck of the Irish T-shirt this morning. :)

  125. Erin March 17th, 2011 at 8:32 am

    Triple Short of a Cycle March 17th, 2011 at 8:29 am
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    **************************
    That’s my kind of breakfast. ;)

  126. MTU March 17th, 2011 at 8:32 am

    sp: kissed.

  127. Betsy March 17th, 2011 at 8:35 am

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....PYT3l9mgOJ

    I don’t often agree with Joel, but he’s right. Sure, all the attention has gone to the back end starters, but Phil and AJ are the keys. Both of them have to be good to very good – otherwise it won’t matter how the 4 and 5 starters do.

  128. 86w183 March 17th, 2011 at 8:36 am

    No way two old war horses like Colon and Garcia pitch out of the pen.

    Mitre will be the long man, Garcia or Colon will win the # 5 starter job (for now) and, ideally the other can be moved for something of a little bit of value

  129. MTU March 17th, 2011 at 8:37 am

    Being a Leprechaun, Pedroia gets to celebrate St. Patty’s day each and every day.

    No pot of gold though. And no rainbow. That only comes when you are a Yankee.

    ;)

  130. blake March 17th, 2011 at 8:43 am

    Kate,

    Sometimes..;)

  131. upstate kate March 17th, 2011 at 8:44 am

    MTU
    espn stole your “SuperNova”

  132. blake March 17th, 2011 at 8:45 am

    I think Colon was quoted as saying he would accept the long man role.

  133. Mell March 17th, 2011 at 8:45 am

    “Mitre will be the long man, Garcia or Colon will win the # 5 starter job (for now) and, ideally the other can be moved for something of a little bit of value”

    Wonder if the “loser” of the #5 battle would willingly go to SWB for a time? My guess is NO. Colon has apparently mentioned being willing to pitch out of the pen. Either way, I don’t think the Yankees will be able to get anything for the odd man out. Think they either release Mitre or they keep him as long man and Colon opts out of his minor league deal and leaves for a team that might be able to employ him as a starter from the get go.

  134. MTU March 17th, 2011 at 8:46 am

    Kate-

    At least they didn’t get NovaCaine. Should I copyright these things ?

    :)

  135. upstate kate March 17th, 2011 at 8:49 am

    MTU
    yeah, I think so

  136. MTU March 17th, 2011 at 8:49 am

    Mell-

    I agree. That’s the most likely scenario.

    Don’t think they’d take Colon over Garcia because of durability issues.

    For the long run, I think I would prefer to keep Mitre.

    I would expect Colon’s shelf life to be very short but who knows ?

  137. Erin March 17th, 2011 at 8:49 am

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  138. MTU March 17th, 2011 at 8:50 am

    New thread ===>

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