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Gardner leading off tonight

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 17, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Gardner LF
Jeter SS
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Posada DH
Granderson CF
Montero C

Hughes RHP

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121 Responses to “Gardner leading off tonight”

  1. Betsy March 17th, 2011 at 1:36 pm

    I don’t know what the whether is in Tampa, but it can’t be better than what it is in NY

  2. upstate kate March 17th, 2011 at 1:36 pm

    that is a nice looking line up

  3. G. Love March 17th, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    Now we’re talking. I beg the media not to pepper Girardi with too many questions about Gardner 1 and Jeter 2, otherwise he’ll get defensive and think you all know more than him and then scrap it immediately. Please let our little Napoleon manager breathe and take this alll in before turning it into the “Jeter sucks and you demoted him” line of questioning.

  4. Jerkface March 17th, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    This group isn’t exactly one that counts bunting as a significant piece of their offense and for good reason. Be nice to see Gardner drop a few here there in an effort to start a rally and have little doubt that he will do just that.

    Trust me, I agree. I think Gardner should be able to drop down a good bunt for a hit at times, but he can’t focus on it. Every bunt attempt he drops down is a 1 to 2 pitch PA where the end result isn’t going to be an XBH, RBI single, or walk. If he is going to bunt he needs to do it enough that the infield is drawn in.

    The thing everyone forgets when advocating he bunt all the time is that each attempt doesn’t negate an out he made last year. It could also negate any of his hits or walks. Its why I don’t get the ‘he’ll hit over .300 every year if he just learned to bunt’ , well maybe he’d hit the same.

  5. Yank1 March 17th, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    “cbs projection for bucholz: 15 w, 145K, 3.45 era 1.29 whip”

    Seems about right.

  6. Betsy March 17th, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    LOL When I’ve said Buchholz will continue to be very good, I’ve gotten attacked, but I guess it’s ok for others to say it. I have never said he was going to pitch to a 2 something ERA this year, but he’s not going to regress as a pitcher even if his numbers aren’t as good. He has fantastic stuff and several different pitches. No, I don’t think he’s an ace yet – IMO, it takes several years of top flight pitching for one to be labled an ace.

    I think Beckett will be ok and so will Lackey. Will they be Cy Young? No, but they don’t have to be.

    I think the Sox are better, but any scout that says he can’t see the Sox losing the division must be on their payroll.

  7. Jerkface March 17th, 2011 at 1:42 pm

    I like this lineup. Swisher 6 is good. I believe this is close to one of the lineups I posted, except that Montero is hitting 9th. I know some people said that Posada would hit 6th, and in his career he has, but I guess if Swisher isn’t hitting 2nd then Posada gets pushed down (likely due to his age). I’m glad Girardi went that way, since Swisher is faster than Po.

  8. BeholdArNo March 17th, 2011 at 1:43 pm

    ESPN Insider article regarding Banuelos, with a funny and ironic first several words.

    With the hype machine firing on all cylinders, New York Yankees phenom Manny Banuelos took the mound on Monday night in a nationally televised game against the big league lineup of the Boston Red Sox just one day after his 20th birthday. While he struggled with his command at times, he was otherwise worthy of the praise he’s been receiving, as he showcased well above-average velocity and an outstanding changeup that generated silly-looking swings from two of Boston’s best hitters: Dustin Pedroia and Kevin Youkilis. One scout watching the game said he was tempted to put an 80, the highest possible score, on the pitch.

    With the Yankees’ rotation in more than a bit of flux, the calls from fans for Banuelos to be part of the immediate solution continue. He’ll make at least one more appearance with the big league team, likely on Saturday, but he’s going to the minors after that, and it’s the right decision for the Yankees long term.

    Twenty-year-old starting pitchers in the big leagues are rarities, but having a player like Banuelos, who has made just three starts above Class-A ball, in the big leagues would be nearly unprecedented. Seventeen pitchers this decade have come up as starters prior to their 21st birthday, and the one constant among them was a full workload the previous year, as they averaged more than 140 innings in the year prior to their debuts, with all 17 pitching at least 100 frames. In addition, only three of the 17 — CC Sabathia (2001), Jeremy Bonderman (2003) and Rick Porcello (2009) — opened their debut year in the majors, with the remaining 14 averaging more than 100 minor league innings in the season they first got the call.

    Make no mistake about it, Banuelos could at the very least hold his own in the big leagues right now, but the real question revolves around how long he could do it.

    He’s never thrown more than 109 innings in any one season, and last year he threw just 65 after an emergency appendectomy delayed his season until June. With many teams believing in no more than a 50 percent increase in workload as a basic rule, that would line Banuelos up for 100 frames this year, and even a plan with fewer limitations would likely keep him under 125.

    “He has everything he needs to succeed in the big leagues except the ability to handle the workload,” said one AL executive. “They need to stretch him out, get him 100 safe innings, and medical people will tell you that if you jump his innings in a big league environment, that would be an even bigger risk.”

    That means that even if the Yankees opened the year with Banuelos in their rotation, they’d almost certainly be unable to finish it with him, or have him available for the all-important postseason. One NL executive saw breaking camp with Banuelos as a potential public relations problem, no matter how he pitched.

    “If he fails, then they’re losing games and they’ve rushed him, and it could hurt him long term in terms of confidence,” the NL exec explained. “But what if he starts off gangbusters and he’s 9-2 in July, has pitched 100 innings, and they’re battling Boston in the American League East. Are they going to shut him down? How do you think that will go over with the fans and the New York press? I bet there was a part of [the] Yankees’ brass that was hoping he got tagged on Monday so they could just treat him like a normal prospect.”

    The AL executive mostly agreed, but also admitted there are special circumstances in the Big Apple.

    “Every other team in baseball would say we’re going to build this guy up in the minors, but the Yankees always need to win now and he’s their best guy,” he explained. “They are not a team that ever likes to go with placeholders.”

    Opening the year at Double-A Trenton is best for both the Yankees and Banuelos. His innings and pitch counts can become the core of his development, without any concern for the score or the standings, and he can still work on harnessing what is already a good arsenal but is still unquestionably a work in progress. While Joe Girardi continues to not rule anything out, the Yankees’ brass insists he’s going to the minors, with a focus on his long-term development.

    “There are few guys that can bypass Triple-A, and even fewer that can all but skip Double-A,” said Mark Newman, the Yankees’ senior vice president of baseball operations. “We understand the excitement, and when we sit behind the net and watch him, we get excited, too. But we have to be objective and rational, and he still has things to do in terms of pitch development.”

    In the end, the question of Banuelos’ readiness is less about the prospect and more about the failures of the Yankees to shore up their rotation in the offseason by putting all their eggs in the baskets of Cliff Lee and the anticipated return of Andy Pettitte.

    “If A.J. Burnett is their No. 5 starter, everyone is happy in Yankees land,” said the NL executive. “If they signed Lee, if Pettitte came back, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Just because the Yankees [screwed] up this offseason doesn’t mean they should sacrifice this kid in the process.”

    This is separate:
    Keith Law on Banuelos

    Law “Banuelos did pick up some velocity and will now work at 90-94 mph with his fastball; he commands the pitch extremely well to both sides of the plate, and its only flaw is a lack of sink. His changeup in the 78-84 range has both excellent arm speed and tremendous fade, and he showed an improved curveball with two-plane break in the upper 70s.”
    TOP 100 PROSPECTS

  9. Jerkface March 17th, 2011 at 1:43 pm

    I have never said he was going to pitch to a 2 something ERA this year, but he’s not going to regress as a pitcher even if his numbers aren’t as good.

    If his ERA drops an entire run, isn’t that regression? The end results on the field will be different and worse than last year. He is going to give up more runs. By this logic, Hughes was fine.

  10. Betsy March 17th, 2011 at 1:43 pm

    As for the M’s, well if they were that disenchanted with Montero’s D, they could have tried him at 1B – since he’s a flat out better hitter than Smoak. I’m glad they didn’t do that (and Rich, I don’t agree that ownership forced Cash’s hand. In Santana’s case, that was Hank – and Hank was not high on Phil. I don’t know where Hal was at the time. Now it’s basically Hal – I really think Cash wanted Lee badly and assumed he could sign the guy). Now I’m very glad that it fell through…..

  11. Betsy March 17th, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    No, Jerkface. You all have been saying how lucky he was. Maybe he’ll pitch better and he won’t be so lucky. I personally don’t believe in luck, I just don’t.

  12. Irreverent Discourse March 17th, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    Rotochamp 2011 projection:

    Buchholz – 188ip 13-10 4.02era 1.27whip 135k 75bb

  13. Betsy March 17th, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    Anyway, the point is that all I’ve said is that CB is going to be very good, but when I say it, it’s because I’m a Red Sox lover. When others say it, they don’t get any flack.

  14. Irreverent Discourse March 17th, 2011 at 1:46 pm

    Buchholz is due for a correction of statistical results. he is not due for a “regression of ability”.

    He is not as good as the luck based ERA results showed last year.

  15. BeholdArNo March 17th, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    Betsy Luck is involved in every sport. In baseball, many – if not all – balls hit in play are nothing but luck.

  16. Jerkface March 17th, 2011 at 1:50 pm

    No, Jerkface. You all have been saying how lucky he was. Maybe he’ll pitch better and he won’t be so lucky. I personally don’t believe in luck, I just don’t.

    Buchholz despite having 3 amazing pitches or whatever, doesn’t really strike guys out at an above average rate and walks men at an above average rate. His good year was predicated almost entirely on good luck on balls in play.

  17. Betsy March 17th, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    A little bit of luck yes, but no more than that. Anyway, regardless of whether he was lucky or not, Buchholz is a very good pitcher- period. I have no idea what #s he’ll put up – at this point, I’m more interested in what the Yankees starters do.

  18. Betsy March 17th, 2011 at 1:53 pm

    Jerkface, all that counts is that a pitcher get the job done…….I don’t care how many he struck out. Are you disputing that he has very good stuff?

  19. Patrick March 17th, 2011 at 1:56 pm

    Jerkface, all that counts is that a pitcher get the job done…….I don’t care how many he struck out. Are you disputing that he has very good stuff?

    That is where your argument falls apart…

    A pitcher that has a great ERA but doesn’t strike many hitters out means he either generates a ton of groundballs (and therefore depends too much on his fielders), or had really good luck on balls put into play. That’s why we say Bucholz’ numbers will regress but his skill will improve. I could see him reducing BB/9, increasing K/9 but I think it’s virtually certain that his ERA will go up.

  20. Betsy March 17th, 2011 at 1:57 pm

    Also, there’s no need to be sarcastic about CB’s “amazing” pitches. He does have multiple quality pitches – it’s a fact.

  21. Betsy March 17th, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    Patrick, that’s fine………but if he’s a better pitcher despite his #s going up, that’s certainly a great sign for the Sox.

  22. Betsy March 17th, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    I mean, despite his ERA going up

  23. BeholdArNo March 17th, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    Betsy Do you want CB to succeed??

  24. m March 17th, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    The Sox are better than they were last year, and presumably healthy.

    But I think we’re better, too. And better than the Sox.

    Does that make me a fangirl? Yes. But the Yankees always put themselves in a position to be very good. And historically we’re the better club. The Sux can’t even say they out-grit us. And last I saw they’re still playing half their games away from the sardine can.

  25. blake March 17th, 2011 at 2:06 pm

    This is a studly lineup with danger 1-9. Montero has started to swing the bat better the last couple games. Just no break anywhere.

  26. m March 17th, 2011 at 2:07 pm

    Betsy,

    I’m going to speak up for what I think is going on. People might get the impression that your a big CB fan because you talk about him a lot. Almost as much as Hughes. ;)

    We know that you respect his game, but I think some here don’t want to hear about how great he us.

  27. Betsy March 17th, 2011 at 2:07 pm

    That’s a question that’s not even worth answering, lol

  28. tampayank March 17th, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    “# Betsy March 17th, 2011 at 1:36 pm

    I don’t know what the whether is in Tampa, but it can’t be better than what it is in NY

    81 and Sunny, good that it’s warming up in NY, hopefully it stays that way for opening day

  29. Mell March 17th, 2011 at 2:10 pm

    “And last I saw they’re still playing half their games away from the sardine can.”

    Think we may have lost the right to that argument after the home/road splits put up by the Yankees last year.

  30. Betsy March 17th, 2011 at 2:10 pm

    M, no I don’t. I don’t bring him up unless he’s brought up here, but whatever. I know what people want to hear – that he (or any Sox pitcher sucks). Well, I didn’t bring him up in the prior thread, so I’ll wait for people to pick on those who actually did.

  31. Betsy March 17th, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    Tampa, I doubt it, lol. I hate spring in NY – it’s rainy, raw and miserable. I’m just going to enjoy it here one day at a time!

  32. BeholdArNo March 17th, 2011 at 2:13 pm

    Betsy lol. I was being serious. Like “m” said, I get the impression you want him to succeed, but your response to me along with your response to “m” answered my question. You don’t want CB to succeed. You would be happy if he pitched to a 6.50 ERA. But you don’t like bias against the Red Sox pitchers because they are Red Sox pitchers. I understand where you are coming from.

  33. m March 17th, 2011 at 2:15 pm

    Well, Laptops does suck as a human. :mad:

  34. blake March 17th, 2011 at 2:16 pm

    Hughes will have a better season than Butholez.

  35. Betsy March 17th, 2011 at 2:16 pm

    Yeah, I get you were being serious – so was I. You can think what you want- I’m not going to waste any time defending my POV to you as you’re not going to change your mind. So, as I said, think what you want.

  36. BeholdArNo March 17th, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    Betsy Huh? I just did change my mind. I finished my last post with “I understand where you are coming from.”

  37. Betsy March 17th, 2011 at 2:23 pm

    I’m sorry, I have to go soon, so I just read your post too quickly. That about sums it up.

  38. lalaw March 17th, 2011 at 2:23 pm

    Seriously Betsy if there is need to drool over how great laptop will be why not head to another site. Pete and his band of loyal fans would love you. Are you really a Yankee fan ?

  39. m March 17th, 2011 at 2:23 pm

    A quick look at the win loss splits.

    2010 we actually had the same W-L record on the road.

    2009 was probably the year I was thinking of. The Sox had tough stretches on the road where their offense was miserable. That year we finished a game ahead at home and 7 games ahead on the road. Of course they still won the WC and we still won the chip!

  40. upstate kate March 17th, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    thinking a pitcher on another team is good does not mean you want them to succeed, it just means you think they are good

  41. Dionysius Thelxinoe March 17th, 2011 at 2:34 pm

    Betsy says:
    March 17, 2011 at 1:36 pm
    I don’t know what the whether is in Tampa, but it can’t be better than what it is in NY

    ———-

    Betsy, 77 and sunny. Can you beat that?

  42. Shame Spencer March 17th, 2011 at 2:38 pm

    Even I can’t sit on the sidelines for this one.. Betsy is MOST DEFINITELY a Yankees fan.

  43. 108 stitches March 17th, 2011 at 2:39 pm

    Now is the time for Girardi to experiment with the batting order if he chooses. With 12 exhibition games remaining, hitters are facing pitchers getting more innings and higher pitch counts.

  44. Niblick March 17th, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    Gee, now we’re arguing over whether someone is a Yankee fan.

    Some on this board need to get a life. Live and let live.

  45. tampayank March 17th, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    “# Betsy March 17th, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    Tampa, I doubt it, lol. I hate spring in NY – it’s rainy, raw and miserable. I’m just going to enjoy it here one day at a time!

    ha I’ll enjoy it for now, I like to call ‘summer’ Florida’s winter b/c that’s when the weather is the worst down here, July-Mid October in Florida is hot, rainy, raw, and miserable :) November-April is the best time for outdoor activities

  46. Jerkface March 17th, 2011 at 2:47 pm

    Jerkface, all that counts is that a pitcher get the job done…….I don’t care how many he struck out.

    Ok and all signs point to buchholz getting the job done less next season.

  47. Yankees Gameday March 17th, 2011 at 2:47 pm

    I applaud Joe for spending the next two weeks with this approach to the team, and based on the Hit and Run he put on in the top of the first last night with Jeter and Swisher I think we are looking at a manager who could possibly be breaking out of his Earl Weaver mode and getting ready to put runners, not just on base, but in scoring position for the amazing RBI men in the heart of the order.

    http://yankeesgameday.blogspot.....pring.html

  48. Chase March 17th, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    Frankie Piliere says Banuelos is a better prospect than Hughes was. Lefty, more velocity, feel for 2 secondary pitches, JUST turned 20.

  49. Rich in NJ March 17th, 2011 at 2:51 pm

    I love this lineup.

    As for Banuelos/Hughes, Banuelos has better pure stuff, but Hughes, when right, has the late life on is FB with tremendous command, that really makes him a better pitcher than his “tangibles” would otherwise indicate.

  50. Shame Spencer March 17th, 2011 at 2:53 pm

    Hughes seems like a very intelligent pitcher. If Banuelos has half his smarts and apparently better stuff, its no wonder Cash is so excited.

  51. stuckey99 March 17th, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    Buchholz and Hughes are linked in the minds/eyes of some people here.

    I think a fair assumption to make it Buchholz had SOME of type of numbers in 2010 Betsy hoped Hughes had.

    This has never been said directly, but the body of work implies it’s a sound assumption.

    A pessimist (by admission, not accusation) is going to naturally assume that the Red Sox player will continue to progress and that the Yankees player might not.

    No more or less complicated than that, IMO.

  52. Against All Odds March 17th, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    Man Ban has a lot to live up too.

  53. Rich in NJ March 17th, 2011 at 3:00 pm

    “Hughes seems like a very intelligent pitcher.”

    Yes, Hughes has what Cash calls pitchability.

  54. Jerkface March 17th, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    I said it before, Hughes and Banuelos are very good pitching prospects. The difference is that Banuelos has a higher ceiling, but Hughes is more likely to reach his due to his command and size.

  55. Eroc March 17th, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    Always take the lefty

  56. Jerkface March 17th, 2011 at 3:05 pm

    Its the same difference between high school players and college players. Teams take college guys because they are, in theory, more likely to reach their potential or near to it. Though high school players may offer substantial upside, it is less likely to be achieved.

  57. Jerkface March 17th, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    Just like Betances might have the highest ceiling of them all, but may only be 30% likely to reach it. All these types of things go into prospect ranking. Another reason why Jesus Montero is so exciting. He is a legit bat that is almost 90% sure to be a productive contributor at the major league level.

  58. Patrick March 17th, 2011 at 3:22 pm

    He is a legit bat that is almost 90% sure to be a productive contributor at the major league level.

    Actually my calculations have him at a solid 92.3% likely to be a productive contributor

  59. Shame Spencer March 17th, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    I prefer my pitchers smart rather than overpowering. The thing I’m always most interested to watch when it comes to the new prospects is how smart they pitch. Are they adjusting? Are they mixing pitches? Are they reading hitters?

    Should be fun to see how the B’s do in that realm.

  60. Patrick March 17th, 2011 at 3:25 pm

    I like my pitchers to be smart AND overpowering…like CC Sabathia :)

  61. Giuseppe Franco March 17th, 2011 at 3:25 pm

    I’m one of those who doesn’t give a fig about what the Red Sox are doing or what the media says about them.

    And this place goes way too nutty when the Yanks are playing them.

  62. stuckey99 March 17th, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    Speaking of Banuelos, his AFL innings count towards his yearly total, yes?

  63. pat March 17th, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    “I prefer my pitchers smart rather than overpowering.”

    Me too. I’ve already seen a lifetime of guys who could throw it through the wall but couldn’t get outs.

  64. Nat March 17th, 2011 at 3:29 pm

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb

    Does Aaron get the nod over A-Rod?

  65. Jerkface March 17th, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    Speaking of Banuelos, his AFL innings count towards his yearly total, yes?

    Yes and his 109 innings a year ago might actually be higher as I’m not sure if he played winterball that year.

  66. Rich in NJ March 17th, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    Smart or overpowering, I prefer command. As in real estate, pitching is about location, location, location.

  67. BoJo March 17th, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    I for one am looking forward to seeing how Clay performs this year with a different defense behind him. I think Youklis at third is a step down from Beltre…Pedroia is a step up from subs, and AGon has said he won’t be diving for any balls, so he may be a step down from Youk.

    Ellsbury in CF is a step down from last year…but Crawford a plus.

    And Scutero is getting older and losing range…

    We’ll see.

  68. BoJo March 17th, 2011 at 3:39 pm

    Patrick March 17th, 2011 at 3:25 pm

    I like my pitchers to be smart AND overpowering…like CC Sabathia
    _____________
    I like my pitchers like I like my coffer…light and sweet–wait a minute–that kind of loses something in the translation, doesn’t it?

  69. Mell March 17th, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    “Ellsbury in CF is a step down from last year”

    Step down from Darnell McDonald? Probably not.

  70. Patrick March 17th, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    I like my pitchers like I like my coffer…light and sweet–wait a minute–that kind of loses something in the translation, doesn’t it?

    I like my pitchers like I like my beer, stout and bitter.

    Carlos Silva?

  71. BoJo March 17th, 2011 at 3:42 pm

    I was surfing the tv channels the other day and saw a retrospective on the 1972 Mets, with plenty of footage of Tom Seaver pitching.

    For some reason, Phil Hughes reminds me a lot of Tom Terrific. Lives off fastball with great movement…drive to succeed…California boys…

    Hopefully he will have as good a career.

  72. BoJo March 17th, 2011 at 3:43 pm

    Mell March 17th, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    “Ellsbury in CF is a step down from last year”

    Step down from Darnell McDonald? Probably not.
    _____________
    They had various players there…some with better gloves…I’m not a big fan of Mighty Mite’s glove.

  73. BoJo March 17th, 2011 at 3:44 pm

    LOL@Patrick

  74. Patrick March 17th, 2011 at 3:45 pm

    They had various players there…some with better gloves…I’m not a big fan of Mighty Mite’s glove.

    I was ready to object to this as well… then I looked at McDonald’s fielding stats. They are really bad

  75. pat March 17th, 2011 at 3:48 pm

    Guys who don’t enjoy media attention probably shouldn’t say, “I don’t think there is anything he does that I couldn’t do, and that I couldn’t do better.”

  76. BoJo March 17th, 2011 at 3:52 pm

    I was thinking more of Cameron and Kalish…but Darnell was pretty bad…so that should help CB.

  77. m March 17th, 2011 at 3:58 pm

    It’s so hard to compare players from different eras. But, Alex will always have a stigma.

    pat,

    He sure sounded like he was enjoying that trip down memory lane!

    Big upset Morehead over Louisville.

  78. Rich in NJ March 17th, 2011 at 4:03 pm

    I don’t think Alex will always have a stigma because over time PED usage will be viewed the way greenies are now.

  79. Erica in NY March 17th, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    m March 17th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
    It’s so hard to compare players from different eras. But, Alex will always have a stigma.

    pat,

    He sure sounded like he was enjoying that trip down memory lane!

    Big upset Morehead over Louisville.

    ****************

    I didn’t have Louisville advancing past this round anyway

  80. m March 17th, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    Ha! Was reading an article on MLB.com. Mariners predicted to a whopping 29-run saved outfield. But check out who ranks highest based on individual UZR of the last 3 years.

    If someone could link the article I’d appreciate it.

  81. blake March 17th, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    “I don’t think Alex will always have a stigma because over time PED usage will be viewed the way greenies are now.”

    I think Alex would have the same numbers had he never taken anything. The years he supposedly used were his prime years anyway in a hitters ballpark….he would have put up huge numbers anyway.

    You could argue the current baseball player is the cleanest of all time.

  82. blake March 17th, 2011 at 4:08 pm

    “Mariners predicted to a whopping 29-run saved outfield.”

    Runs saved or runs scored?

  83. 108 stitches March 17th, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    BoJo March 17th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
    I for one am looking forward to seeing how Clay performs this year with a different defense behind him. I think Youklis at third is a step down from Beltre…Pedroia is a step up from subs, and AGon has said he won’t be diving for any balls, so he may be a step down from Youk.

    Ellsbury in CF is a step down from last year…but Crawford a plus.

    And Scutero is getting older and losing range…

    We’ll see.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    The fickle fans of Boston are expecting Crawford and Gonzalez to exceed the numbers put up in 2010 by Martinez and Beltre.

  84. Rich in NJ March 17th, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    blake

    You’re right. For example, look at Alex’s H/R splits while at Texas:

    2001

    Home: .361/.439/.677/1.116 (AB:253 HR:21)

    Road: .276/.359..567..926 (AB 257 HR:14)

    2002

    Home: .323/.403/.700 /1.103 (AB:313 HR:26)

    Road: .277/.381/.547/.928 (AB:319 HR:26)

    2003

    Home: .314/.407/.621/1.028 (AB:309 HR:26)

    Road: .282/.384..577/.961 (AB:298 HR:21)

    If anything boosted his production, it was the park effects.

  85. blake March 17th, 2011 at 4:11 pm

    Anybody seen the new Mcdonalds commercial with Dwight Howard and Lebron? Its great.

  86. Patrick March 17th, 2011 at 4:12 pm

    I think a lot of people like A-rod. He’s a goofy guy, kind of awkward but a ridiculously good player/athlete… plus he bangs famous actresses.

  87. blake March 17th, 2011 at 4:13 pm

    Rich,

    Alex has an advantage that Bonds and some of the other guys didn’t……which is time playing during testing. He’s already shown he can do it clean…..2007 was his best season arguably and it was during testing…….

  88. Against All Odds March 17th, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    # Erica in NY March 17th, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    m March 17th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
    It’s so hard to compare players from different eras. But, Alex will always have a stigma.

    pat,

    He sure sounded like he was enjoying that trip down memory lane!

    Big upset Morehead over Louisville.

    ****************

    I didn’t have Louisville advancing past this round anyway

    ———————————-

    I had them in the elite 8

  89. tampayank March 17th, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    wow great first day of March Madness so far

  90. tampayank March 17th, 2011 at 4:25 pm

    “# blake March 17th, 2011 at 4:11 pm

    Anybody seen the new Mcdonalds commercial with Dwight Howard and Lebron? Its great.

    Dwight is a funny guy

  91. tampayank March 17th, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    “# Patrick March 17th, 2011 at 4:12 pm

    I think a lot of people like A-rod. He’s a goofy guy, kind of awkward but a ridiculously good player/athlete… plus he bangs famous actresses.

    I think it’s the opposite, I don’t think I’ve ever met a non-Yankee baseball fan that likes AROD….I’ve even met a good number of Yankee fans that don’t like him….I’m a fan of his but I can see why he rubs people the wrong way

  92. blake March 17th, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    It’s a take off the old Jordan Bird commercials…funny when the pretended they didn’t know who Bird was.

  93. blake March 17th, 2011 at 4:34 pm

    Papelbum and Lee got shelled today.

  94. Irreverent Discourse March 17th, 2011 at 4:35 pm

    A-Rod is the opposite of how a regular super-star athlete presents himself… goofy and awkward public persona, trouble on the field, trouble at home…

    I think people look down on him and think they would “do it better”… so they don’t respect him.

  95. Patrick March 17th, 2011 at 4:37 pm

    I actually think A-rod has really helped his image the last few years. Ever since he’s come clean he seems a lot more open and honest with the media and fans. It’s also obvious how hard he plays and how much he helps his teammates (especially the young guys). I guess I travel in different circles but in the last few years I’ve seen more non-Yankee fans warm up to A-rod.

  96. pat March 17th, 2011 at 4:39 pm

    m

    I wasn’t judging the truthfulness of the statement just the logic of someone who says he hates attention making a statement like that.

    Alex’s actions are held to a standard that no one else is held to. He’s an acceptable prejudice.

    When I read the GQ article about Derek, couldn’t help but imagine what the fallout would have been if Alex had a reporters tape recorder confiscated because he didn’t want what he said recorded. And what the odds would have been that the reporter would have tried to apologize to him?

  97. Giuseppe Franco March 17th, 2011 at 4:40 pm

    A-Rod doesn’t seem to be the butt of jokes like he was as recently as two years ago.

    I was rather surprised that Direct TV used him in their newest MLB Extra Innings ad.

    Perhaps his play in the 2009 postseason and finally winning a ring may have something to do with the slight change of public perception.

  98. Against All Odds March 17th, 2011 at 4:40 pm

    # blake March 17th, 2011 at 4:34 pm

    Papelbum and Lee got shelled today.

    —————————————

    Yankee fans rejoice

  99. Nat March 17th, 2011 at 4:42 pm

    Sports is entertainment to me, no different than movies and music. I don’t like or dislike many athletes. If you aren’t beating kids and women, driving drunk or spouting racism, sexism, or any other -ism you’re generally okay with me.

  100. Erica in NY March 17th, 2011 at 4:43 pm

    Against All Odds March 17th, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    I had them in the elite 8

    ***************’
    Ouch!

  101. m March 17th, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    Alex’s only crime is that he isn’t Derek Jeter (half-joking) The GQ article painted Jeter as perfect, even though we know he’s not. It’s an image that Jeter has gone to great lengths to hone. In that light Alex is viewed as less than perfect.

    But Alex has learned to work the media better, and as a result they’re not as rough on him.

  102. hardwired7 March 17th, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    There’s a familiarity factor for Morehead St. when it comes to playing Louisville. They play against them annually.

    Granted, they’re typically on the losing end of a 20+ point blowout, but not today.

    Works for me as a ‘Cuse fan as Pitino seems to have Boeheim’s #.

  103. Against All Odds March 17th, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    # Erica in NY March 17th, 2011 at 4:43 pm

    Against All Odds March 17th, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    I had them in the elite 8

    ***************’
    Ouch!

    ————————-

    Yea it’s ummmmmmm *shakes head* *holds back tears and grimaces* It’s tough

  104. Doreen March 17th, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    I have conflicting feelings about Derek Jeter. I have for a while.

    But, the guy learned how to survive playing in NY with everything intact. He has kept his nose clean. He has managed to do the impossible. Not easy to do. Even if you think the guy is too good to be true, you have to have a grudging respect for him.

  105. Patrick March 17th, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    Works for me as a ‘Cuse fan as Pitino seems to have Boeheim’s #.

    On one hand I agree because I’m a Cuse fan too and it seems like Louisville knocks us around every year in recent times.

    On the other hand, I wanted to see the Big East go 11-0 in the first round ;)

  106. stuckey99 March 17th, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    Just a thought about Hughes. Not a prediction or a defensive disclaimer, but a thought on his spring overall.

    This may be the first time in a LONG time (certainly his entire professional life) that Phil Hughes didn’t have to make a team, secure a spot, or try to move up a level. Even in 2008 and still had to put out a representative showing.

    I expected a lot of getting work in and trying things with less an emphasis on results.

    Just sayin’.

  107. Doreen March 17th, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    I’ve always had a soft spot for ARod. There’s something about him – he’s fallible. As great an athlete as he is, he is vulnerable and has made mistakes. He’s human. That’s ultimately more appealing than the ice prince(ss).

  108. pat March 17th, 2011 at 4:53 pm

    Banning cell phones with cameras from parties at your house makes me think someone is either not perfect, paranoid or both. :wink:

  109. MTU March 17th, 2011 at 4:54 pm

    Stuckey-

    Are you tryin’ to say that you think Hughes should be workin’ on his CU more ?

  110. Doreen March 17th, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    pat -

    Private. Extremely private. To a fault.

  111. BeholdArNo March 17th, 2011 at 4:56 pm

    Im excited that Alex got the Directv commercial. Alex is the perfect role model for young kids. He’s just a tremendous human being, has gone through adversity, and has always fought back from adversity. He’s learned from his mitakes and does not shy away from them. He’s a leader.

  112. stuckey99 March 17th, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    “Are you tryin’ to say that you think Hughes should be workin’ on his CU more ?”

    More like I think he should be chllin’, and fans along with him.

  113. MTU March 17th, 2011 at 4:58 pm

    “More like I think he should be chllin’, and fans along with him.”

    What makes you think he’s not ?

  114. MTU March 17th, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    new thread ==>

  115. stuckey99 March 17th, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    I don’t per se.

    But Nova coming off a dominating ST performance coupled with Hughes starting tonight and having a bland spring so far just has my radar up.

  116. RadioKev March 17th, 2011 at 5:03 pm

    Now all we need is Cano batting third and Tex batting fifth for this lineup to be logical.

  117. MTU March 17th, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    “I don’t per se.

    But Nova coming off a dominating ST performance coupled with Hughes starting tonight and having a bland spring so far just has my radar up.”

    Hughes needs to do his talking during the regular season.

    What he does now should be of little concern other than getting ready.

  118. Patrick March 17th, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    Now all we need is Cano batting third and Tex batting fifth for this lineup to be logical.

    First of all, you sound like Spock.

    Second, Tex is better suited for the 3 spot than Robbie

  119. teddy9000 March 17th, 2011 at 6:09 pm

    cano the better hitter i think, but tex has more power

  120. BeholdArNo March 17th, 2011 at 6:35 pm

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