Gardner back in the leadoff spot
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 21, 2011 
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As I remember it, the starting outfielders were not supposed to make this road trip, but Brett Gardner is in the lineup, once again batting leadoff.
Brett Gardner CF
Derek Jeter DH
Jorge Posada 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Russell Martin C
Ramiro Pena SS
Eduardo Nunez LF
Justin Maxwell RF
Bartolo Colon
i think the season starts with brett in the leadoff spot
PLAYER, TEAM POS ACTION
Mat Latos, SD SP SP
Wandy Rodriguez, Hou?SP DTD SP
Francisco Rodriguez, NYM RP DTD CL
Jonathan Papelbon, Bos RP CL
Andrew Bailey, Oak RP DTD CL
Ryan Franklin, StL RP CL
Fernando Rodney, LAA RP CL
Brandon League, Sea RP CL
Chris Sale, CWS RP CL
PLAYER, TEAM POS ACTION
Chris Iannetta, Col C C
Adam LaRoche, Was 1B 1B
Howard Kendrick, LAA 2B 2B
Evan Longoria, TB 3B DTD 3B
Marco Scutaro, Bos SS SS
Sean Rodriguez, TB 2B, OF 2B, OF
Casey McGehee, Mil 3B 3B
Carlos Gonzalez, Col OF OF
Matt Kemp, LAD OF OF
Andrew McCutchen, Pit OF OF
Jayson Werth, Was OF OF
Jacoby Ellsbury, Bos OF OF
Mike Stanton, Fla OF OF
Mitch Moreland, Tex 1B
Lance Berkman, StL 1B, DH
Luke Scott, Bal DH
I missed the Draft & went on auto-pick. I got a good offense & a lot of closers! LOL! Only 2 SP. Sorry I couldn?t have picked some slots myself! Too many Sux players too.
Ray, actually not a bad roster. There are plenty of SP left for you to add.
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Teddy, I agree that Gardner will be the lead-off hitter on opening day.
Kruk and Ravich are in heaven today with this Phillies v Sux game on ESPN
# UnKnown March 21st, 2011 at 1:27 pm
Kruk and Ravich are in heaven today with this Phillies v Sux game on ESPN
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I’m sure they have said more than once it’s a WS preview
Shame Spencer March 21st, 2011 at 1:22 pm
There’s a new post and no one told me about it cough*Erica*cough.
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My bad.
I got distracted. I decided it was really important to book a spot right now for the mahjong tournament in Atlantic City in November (and book my room as well.. duh
)
Yeah when does the 2012 season start.
2011 is in the books via the Baseball Tonight crew.
# Against All Odds March 21st, 2011 at 1:31 pm
# UnKnown March 21st, 2011 at 1:27 pm
Kruk and Ravich are in heaven today with this Phillies v Sux game on ESPN
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I’m sure they have said more than once it’s a WS preview
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It isn’t? I mean maybe some of the faces change between now and october…..obviously just improvements on both sides via savvy trades and shrewd GM maneuvers, but the jerseys remain the same.
# Erica in NY March 21st, 2011 at 1:31 pm
My bad.
I got distracted. I decided it was really important to book a spot right now for the mahjong tournament in Atlantic City in November (and book my room as well.. duh
)
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funny you mention mahjong…..i just got back from macau on friday.
Erica,
Do you play mah-jong? My mom taught me how to play when I was younger.
# Carlo March 21st, 2011 at 1:33 pm
# Against All Odds March 21st, 2011 at 1:31 pm
# UnKnown March 21st, 2011 at 1:27 pm
Kruk and Ravich are in heaven today with this Phillies v Sux game on ESPN
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I’m sure they have said more than once it’s a WS preview
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It isn’t? I mean maybe some of the faces change between now and october…..obviously just improvements on both sides via savvy trades and shrewd GM maneuvers, but the jerseys remain the same.
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It very well might be a WS preview but then again anything can happen between now and then. Who knew Utley was going to get injured.
You’re forgiven, Erica. AC is a good time. I wanted to go to the rodeo there!
“I wish, that would be incredible…most of the Bowl system has lost pre BCS tradition anyway. all 11 conference winners, 5 at large bids would be a lot of fun. The only loss would be the Rose Bowl, that does have a special feel to it”
If nothing else, it would allow the Boise States of the world to legitimize themselves. It would also make the regular season much more compelling. Now, if you lose even 1 regular season game, your championship hopes are basically done.
# Against All Odds March 21st, 2011 at 1:35 pm
# Carlo March 21st, 2011 at 1:33 pm
# Against All Odds March 21st, 2011 at 1:31 pm
# UnKnown March 21st, 2011 at 1:27 pm
Kruk and Ravich are in heaven today with this Phillies v Sux game on ESPN
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I’m sure they have said more than once it’s a WS preview
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It isn’t? I mean maybe some of the faces change between now and october…..obviously just improvements on both sides via savvy trades and shrewd GM maneuvers, but the jerseys remain the same.
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It very well might be a WS preview but then again anything can happen between now and then. Who knew Utley was going to get injured.
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I was being 100% facetious.
Fran the original March 21st, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Erica,
Do you play mah-jong? My mom taught me how to play when I was younger.
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My grandma was a very serious player so I always felt it in my blood.
I learned last year and picked it up very quickly and now I love playing. My aunt told me I am getting too good for the family game (I started with $5 in change and now have over $43- and I didn’t play all summer cause it conflicted with the beach) and should start looking into tournaments. So I did. LOL. I sometimes play online too.
If you are interested in picking the game up again, I would love to get a regular game going. Some other family members are making playing difficult, so I am trying to find people to play with. I got my own set for my birthday.
Shame Spencer March 21st, 2011 at 1:35 pm
You’re forgiven, Erica. AC is a good time. I wanted to go to the rodeo there!
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I think I was offered free tickets to that. No time to get there though until the end of April
Tomorrow is the ALCS preview. Yankees v Buck’s Birds. ESPN 1pm/et
I would love to get a regular game going
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Erica, if you do please keep me in mind. It would be fun.
My mother used to have a weekly game with 4 other women and they would take turns hosting. When they played at our house I used to watch and that’s how I learned to play.
It will be an AL east vs NL east WS…….but it will be the Yankees vs the Braves.
# Carlo March 21st, 2011 at 1:36 pm
# Against All Odds March 21st, 2011 at 1:35 pm
# Carlo March 21st, 2011 at 1:33 pm
# Against All Odds March 21st, 2011 at 1:31 pm
# UnKnown March 21st, 2011 at 1:27 pm
Kruk and Ravich are in heaven today with this Phillies v Sux game on ESPN
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I’m sure they have said more than once it’s a WS preview
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It isn’t? I mean maybe some of the faces change between now and october…..obviously just improvements on both sides via savvy trades and shrewd GM maneuvers, but the jerseys remain the same.
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It very well might be a WS preview but then again anything can happen between now and then. Who knew Utley was going to get injured.
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I was being 100% facetious.
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Sorry I guess after hearing it all winter I can’t tell when someone is joking about it.
Fran-
Do you know anyone else that plays?
If there was ever a better result from a failed drug test, this is it.
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-.....KHeadlines
10 days…
Fran,
Are you still there because I need some help with my draft. I don’t have enough SP or a closer to the best of my knowledge. I am going out in less than an hour, but will be back later. Might you have some time to help me.
Blake, I’m just getting to this now, but saying Lackey and Nova is a coin flip is really reaching, IMO, given that this would be Nova’s first full season (plus, Lackey should improve off of last year – maybe not a huge improvement, but he should be better). I know we like our kids, but Nova is completely unproven.
Yankees taking 6 starters on a 2 hour bus ride. Kind of surprised.
So Mariano Rivera’s family is sitting right next to me. I’ve been talking to Brett Marshall’s mom. I would say that today was worth it.
Andruw Jones and Ronnie Belliard are also here.
Erica,
I will look around. I think 1 of my friends plays.
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SAS,
I am on my way out too but I will help you later. Don’t make any changes until players clear waivers which is I think tomorrow. Then you can do as many add/drops as you want.
I don’t see any reason to expect Lackey to improve.
Betsy,
Maybe a little….but Nova still has upside. Lackey pretty much is what he is at this point and that wasn’t all that good. In terms of which guy is more of a sure bet to say win 12 games and post a 4 something ERA…..that’s probably Lackey. In terms of which guy has a chance to do better than that…..it might be Nova. In other words, Nova is less proven but has more upside……plus he’s about 15 million cheaper.
Lester/ Halladay…..Halladay is winning.
BoSox need for Lackey to stem the tide of decline, if not they are in trouble…..He’s getting closer to one curveball away from a blown out elbow……You can hear the clicking of the clock if you stand close enough…….Everyone focuses in on Beckett and Dice-K and rightfully so, however they need Lackey to improve and not digress any further
Blake, that’s fine, but we’re talking about this year…..not about who we might want 3 or 4 years down the road. I’m not saying Nova will be bad this year, but even though he might be our #4 (I still think he should be #5), in reality on teams with good staffs, he’d be a #5. At that, I’d be fine with a 4.6 or so ERA………I expect Lackey to be quite a bit better than that.
Wow tyanks that is way better than home work! We will expect a full report.
GB
that was a heart warming story
Gardner shouldn’t bat leadoff vs LHP
Fran-
Let me know. It would be awesome to get a game going.
Unfortunately, none of my friends are into it.
I am going to try to organize a game at the beach club this summer
Not sure I’m looking for much different from Lackey. He had a 4.34 ERA in Fenway, and he got somewhat fat by pitching against the O’s 5 times, which was his most starts against any one team.
The Flyin Hawaiian goes Pineapple Crush in Center…
Lackey has been in a steady decline the past three years.
When Gammons left ESPN, he made Karl Ravech take a solemn oath that he would be a good homer and promote the Buston Sux for the remainder of his career behind a microphone.
Lackey had a 3.97 ERA in the 2nd half. Also had a 3.85 FIP overall
I expect Lackey to be worse, due to age and wear and tear.
pat March 21st, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Yankees taking 6 starters on a 2 hour bus ride. Kind of surprised.
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Be grateful it is not a three hour tour on the Minnow.
Isn’t the team required to take a certain amount of starters to road games?
nickcafardo Papelbon: 1-1/3, 1Ks, 2BB, 1H. Twenty eight pitches vs Rays A-ball. Declined to speak to reporters.
2 walks? I would guess pitches weren’t in the right area code if Single A guys weren’t swinging at them.
Erica,
Will do. Hopefully we can get something going.
See you later.
Carlo,
Wow. You spent a lot of time putting up stats.
And then you acknowledge that you know what one particular Yankee pitcher did in the past, but that it’s no guarantee that he’ll do that in 2011.
So you declare yourself the winner of the debate because you put up stats that proved what? That it’s a guarantee the Boston pitchers are going to repeat what they did historically?
Kate, the young guy caught a break. He may have to live with the drug suspension, but, at least he gets to live. Best of luck to him.
I am beginning to wonder if they open the season with Nunez playing OF in SWB to build up his utility value and also get him ABs.
Erica,
There should be lots of women…older than you….who play majongg at the beach club. I tried to pick it up out here with what I remember from my Mom, but it didn’t work out for me. Bridge is the game in my life which I play seriously.
Rich in NJ…….When his Angel contract expired the whispers around the organization was one of relief that they were able to get through the postseason with his arm intact….It’s not a question of if it’s a question of when ……
GB–great story, but I don’t believe he served a suspension if I read it right.
He had the chance to appeal, and they probably did so. When the cancer was discovered, I am pretty sure that would have won the appeal. (Not too many playing would undergo that operation to just have a suspension lifted.)
I do not recall seeing his name posted as someone suspended.
SAS March 21st, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Erica,
There should be lots of women…older than you….who play majongg at the beach club. I tried to pick it up out here with what I remember from my Mom, but it didn’t work out for me. Bridge is the game in my life which I play seriously.
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There is a group of older women on my court who play very seriously all day long. I always made fun of them until I learned the game and discovered its awesome.
Last summer they didn’t let me play with them
I was too intimated last summer to find a game cause I was still new. I am ready now. I will take people’s nickels, dimes & quarters
Pat M. March 21st, 2011 at 2:17 pm
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That was the main reason I did not want the Yankees to pursue him…I think the clock is ticking
# m March 21st, 2011 at 2:15 pm
Carlo,
Wow. You spent a lot of time putting up stats.
And then you acknowledge that you know what one particular Yankee pitcher did in the past, but that it’s no guarantee that he’ll do that in 2011.
So you declare yourself the winner of the debate because you put up stats that proved what? That it’s a guarantee the Boston pitchers are going to repeat what they did historically?
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When did I declare I won any argument? Honestly, your post is so aggressive that i dont even know how to respond because it appears to me your only point is to be antagonist by making up or inferring things I said or feel.
A – i never declared myself the winner of anything, that’s pathetic
B – I presented stats because i was asked to support my opinion, which i did
C – i never said their pitchers would match the stats i provided over the past few years in 2011
Honestly, your post is bordering on lunacy.
If that kid doesn’t want to fail another drug test he should probably not he using Kenny Powers as his strength trainer.
I can’t wait for 20 minutes from now when Carlo plays the victim card after calling M’s post pathetic and lunacy.
# LGY March 21st, 2011 at 2:25 pm
I can’t wait for 20 minutes from now when Carlo plays the victim card after calling M’s post pathetic and lunacy.
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hahaha. so personal.
# LGY March 21st, 2011 at 2:25 pm
I can’t wait for 20 minutes from now when Carlo plays the victim card after calling M’s post pathetic and lunacy.
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identify please where i called m’s post “pathetic”. appreciate it, holmes.
Carlo,
From the outside looking in, you’ve declared that everyone else is wrong and went so far as to get aggressive and personal with another poster. You apologized for it, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. You went through a lot of trouble on very little sleep and then you move the goal posts.
You can take my post any way you want, but I’m no lunatic. In fact I’m quite clear-headed and fair-minded. Which is why I can spot inconstancies like the one I pointed out a mile away.
“Mariano Rivera stretched himself out with two innings Monday in a Yankees’ minor-league game.
“Rivera, pitching for Single-A Tampa against the Blue Jays’ Single-A squad, threw 11 pitches in the first inning and 25 pitches overall. The Yankees closer gave up one earned run, two hits with two strike outs. ”
Is anyone else offended that Single-A hitters would dare swing the bat against Rivera?
Shouldn’t they just keep their head pointed to the ground until they take three strikes and walk back to their dugout without making eye contact?
It’ll be nice when the regular season starts so we have stuff to talk about rather than dwell on nonsense drama…
So much fun and enjoyment here today ????
“It’ll be nice when the regular season starts so we have stuff to talk about rather than dwell on nonsense drama…”
Yes. I know I’m anxiously awaiting the first 2nd inning “Game Over” post during a game that counts.
Pat M.-
You sticking by your prediciton that Nova will be in the mix for ROY ?
What line are you projecting for him ?
Yes. I know I’m anxiously awaiting the first 2nd inning “Game Over” post during a game that counts.
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Those are my favorite posts
Pat M.
Is it raining in SD, It is raining in the desert.
Betsy,
Why do you think Lackey will be significantly better this year? I believe he gave up the most base runners of any starter last season (not sure) and he wasn’t injured……his stuff just isn’t that good anymore.
# stuckey99 March 21st, 2011 at 2:33 pm
“It’ll be nice when the regular season starts so we have stuff to talk about rather than dwell on nonsense drama…”
Yes. I know I’m anxiously awaiting the first 2nd inning “Game Over” post during a game that counts.
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Better yet what happens if the Yankees lose on Opening Day. You will definitely hear “this team is old, the bullpen sucks, the yankees will miss the PS, Fire Girardi, Fire Cashman, etc.”
Patrick March 21st, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Yes. I know I’m anxiously awaiting the first 2nd inning “Game Over” post during a game that counts.
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Those are my favorite posts
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I love when Girardi posts the line up and 10 people complain that he isn’t trying to win the game
Don’t forget about Matt.
He’ll be back to tell everyone exactly what the Yankees do wrong in real-time.
# m March 21st, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Carlo,
From the outside looking in, you’ve declared that everyone else is wrong and went so far as to get aggressive and personal with another poster. You apologized for it, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. You went through a lot of trouble on very little sleep and then you move the goal posts.
You can take my post any way you want, but I’m no lunatic. In fact I’m quite clear-headed and fair-minded. Which is why I can spot inconstancies like the one I pointed out a mile away.
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Where did I declare anyone is right or wrong? i provided my opinion, was told i was wrong, presented facts to support my opinion, left it at that. I even provided a blind sample and allowed folks to choose which set they thought was better……again, never claiming to be right or wrong, just supporting my view with the stats people asked for from me.
i don’t recall apologizing for saying what i said to the folks i said it to…….if i apologized to anyone, it would be others who were offended. i have no respect for the two folks i disrespected…..again, my opinion, not a big deal, shouldn’t worry you at all.
pls explain this inconsistency you speak of….your original post didnt make it clear to me what you were getting at/referring to. while doing so, take that outside observer look you take and read your post again and tell me if you thought it was objective/fair-minded.
Don’t worry about my sleep……I am used to 3-4 hour nights of sleep. Its not a problem.
If Nova spends the whole year in the rotation he has a great shot at ROY.
There are no obvious favorites in the AL
Looking at the lineup, it seems that Girardi didn’t want to take a chance on stirring up drama by batting Cano third in Teixeira’s absence…
I don’t know what to think about Lackey. I wonder if it was one big adjustment period. And porous defense. He’s never pitched well at Fenway, and the fans are baseball crazed.
Unfortunately he’ll probably pitch better. He’s better than his numbers were last season.
SAS….The storm that blew thru here last night was an event, so beware…In fact it’s cold, windy and it’s raining again as I type this……MTU….As for Ivan, if he gets 28-30 starts he can go 12-6 ERA in the mid 4.00′s, with a K rate around 6.0……He’s going to be better than many have believed prior to camp
“I love when Girardi posts the line up and 10 people complain that he isn’t trying to win the game”
Well, he did lost 67 of them last year.
Had to be intentional, right?
GB – thanks for that story about that kid with the seminoma. Life is funny sometimes.
Mad Dog Russo is doing a live show now from the Yankees / Rays site if anyone is interested.
new thread
That would be live on Sirius 123 / XM 144 for those who have satellite radio.
Thanks Pat M.
I have come to respect your predicitons almost as much as Nostradamus.
New thread ===>
You’re most welcome, Joe. Just shows that some bad things can turn out pretty well after all.
I’m on an iTouch and it only shows like 30 comments per page view.
So I’m going to beg off of copying and pasting.
Someone in the last thread said that Ivan or Garcia did this last year. And you said that you knew that, but it’s no guarantee they would do it in 2011.
So, the gist of it us that you said that the Sox back end was better and you brought up stats. That’s great. But there’s no guarantee that the Boston pitchers will repeat their last three years either.
So basically there is no winner, and you’re right you didn’t declare yourself as such. My point is you went through a lot of trouble of posting stats (and letting us know it was on very little sleep) but there’s no guarantee that any of the numerous pitchers you posted will repeat their historical numbers. So it really is wait and see. Or we could enjoy watching the Yankees play it out this season.
It just seems like a circular argument. And one I’m
prepared to jump off of.
trisha – true pinstriped blue March 21st, 2011 at 12:41 pm
mick, thinking not. The way our league works is that you get the highest points for wins.
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Pitching is always the way to go.
He can always peddle them off to the needy for a bat.
# Betsy March 21st, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Blake, I’m just getting to this now, but saying Lackey and Nova is a coin flip is really reaching, IMO, given that this would be Nova’s first full season (plus, Lackey should improve off of last year – maybe not a huge improvement, but he should be better). I know we like our kids, but Nova is completely unproven.
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Wrong thinking.
If you had a choice of Lackey or Nova, only a fool would choose Lackey.
I’m not saying Nova will be bad this year, but even though he might be our #4 (I still think he should be #5), in reality on teams with good staffs, he’d be a #5
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Why is Nova a 5 and not a 4?
Does it really matter?
Why not give the kid a shot? Only believe in sure things?
What a way to go thru life.
# m March 21st, 2011 at 2:51 pm
I’m on an iTouch and it only shows like 30 comments per page view.
So I’m going to beg off of copying and pasting.
Someone in the last thread said that Ivan or Garcia did this last year. And you said that you knew that, but it’s no guarantee they would do it in 2011.
So, the gist of it us that you said that the Sox back end was better and you brought up stats. That’s great. But there’s no guarantee that the Boston pitchers will repeat their last three years either.
So basically there is no winner, and you’re right you didn’t declare yourself as such. My point is you went through a lot of trouble of posting stats (and letting us know it was on very little sleep) but there’s no guarantee that any of the numerous pitchers you posted will repeat their historical numbers. So it really is wait and see. Or we could enjoy watching the Yankees play it out this season.
It just seems like a circular argument. And one I’m
prepared to jump off of.
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you said a lot so i will break it down point by point and respond to each of your well laid out thoughts.
“Someone in the last thread said that Ivan or Garcia did this last year. And you said that you knew that, but it’s no guarantee they would do it in 2011.” – yes, i believe the poster said that garcia outpitched dice k last year and i said the overall numbers were very similar for both, but garcia hasnt given consistent innings in the last few years…..i didnt say anything was set in stone for 2011, just gave my reason for why i think dice k may be a bit more reliable in 2011 (2010 numbers similar, longer track record for dice k better)
“So, the gist of it us that you said that the Sox back end was better and you brought up stats. That’s great. But there’s no guarantee that the Boston pitchers will repeat their last three years either.” – the gist of what i said was that i am under the opinion that the sox back end is better. i was asked to prove it so i brought up the statistics i was asked to provide to support my opinion…….there is no guarantee anything holds true in 2011, nor did i say there was…..i provided the data to support my opinion as we enter the year.
“My point is you went through a lot of trouble of posting stats (and letting us know it was on very little sleep) but there’s no guarantee that any of the numerous pitchers you posted will repeat their historical numbers. So it really is wait and see. Or we could enjoy watching the Yankees play it out this season.” – it wasn’t a lot of trouble, took me 10 minutes……my only point for bringing up sleep was because it was 1:30AM, my wife was sleeping and i didnt want to get up and use the computer to aggregate stats for the purposes of that discussion yet i was being constantly asked to support my opinion and i could not do so
There is no winner….which is why i found it comical that one guy claimed he won a difference of opinion discussion.
“So it really is wait and see. Or we could enjoy watching the Yankees play it out this season.” – exactly…..i did say lets discuss in july at one point last night
“It just seems like a circular argument. ” – tell me when the last time someone on this message board admitted being wrong and we can find the first ever non circular argument ever to take place on this particular blog.
Pat M. March 21st, 2011 at 2:01 pm
BoSox need for Lackey to stem the tide of decline, if not they are in trouble
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What about Beckett?
At this point his value lies in the postseason, if they can get there.
Who won the most recent debate in here, I’d love to know.
there are no winners in debates on this board…..only losers of time. charlie sheen wins, no one else.
sometimes the manner of debate is both infantile and profound at the same time….amazing!