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Granderson’s status uncertain until tomorrow

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 22, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Curtis Granderson felt something in his right oblique during his last swing of batting practice this morning. He didn’t tell the Yankees right away and instead went forward with his usual pregame running and throwing.

“He said that did not bother him, so that’ at least encouraging,” Joe Girardi said. “But I think you really have to wait to see how he feels tomorrow to have a good handle on what it is and decide what we do next.”

Girardi said that, as of now, no tests are scheduled, but the Yankees really aren’t sure what they’re dealing with. They’ve seen Sergio Mitre’s oblique injury cost him only a couple of days, and they’ve seen Greg Golson’s cost two full weeks.

“I’m concerned,” Girardi said. “But at least he gave us a good sign by being able to go out there and saying if it was the season, he would have played. But I think you still have to wait because there’s adrenalin in there.”

Also, Brian Cashman says the Yankees aren’t interested in recently released Mets starter Oliver Perez.

“I was asked above me to look into it just to be certain,” Cashman said. “We always look at everything, but it’s not something that right now makes sense for us based on everything we’ve seen.”

 
 

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143 Responses to “Granderson’s status uncertain until tomorrow”

  1. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 4:05 pm

    Can Greg Golson Wally Pipp Grandy? Stay tuned!

  2. Jerkface March 22nd, 2011 at 4:05 pm

    Thank god re: Ollie Perez, dude is a disaster.

  3. Jerkface March 22nd, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    Can Greg Golson Wally Pipp Grandy? Stay tuned!

    And if so, will the Red Sox fans notice?

  4. stuckey99 March 22nd, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    So MLBR was reporting he’s miss the opener based on what exactly?

  5. Erin March 22nd, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    FWIW:

    eboland11 Andruw Jones said he talked to Granderson, who didn’t think injury was that serious and would maybe keep him out 2 or 3 days.

  6. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 4:07 pm

    “I was asked above me to look into it just to be certain,”
    ______________
    DAMNIT HANK!!! Go back to the race tracks already!

  7. Ed H. March 22nd, 2011 at 4:08 pm

    Ollie = Fuhgedaboudit!!!!

  8. Jerkface March 22nd, 2011 at 4:08 pm

    So MLBR was reporting he’s miss the opener based on what exactly?

    Did MLB Radio report it?

  9. Jerkface March 22nd, 2011 at 4:09 pm

    Or were the MLB radio hosts speculating?

  10. Nick in SF March 22nd, 2011 at 4:09 pm

    BBC Radio Four is reporting that Granderson could be out until after the Royal Wedding. :shock:

  11. Fran the original March 22nd, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    Glad Cashman is not interested in Ollie.

  12. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    Is the game over yet?

  13. Erica in NY March 22nd, 2011 at 4:11 pm

    Jerkface March 22nd, 2011 at 3:58 pm
    Why am I suddenly tempted to see how much I can disagree with jerkface before it bugs him…………………………………………

    snufflelafugus

    **************

    Classic :lol:

  14. Patrick March 22nd, 2011 at 4:12 pm

    Was going to make a joke about Al Jazeera reporting on Granderson being out but there are no muslim baseball players :(

  15. Erin March 22nd, 2011 at 4:12 pm

    Nick in SF March 22nd, 2011 at 4:09 pm
    BBC Radio Four is reporting that Granderson could be out until after the Royal Wedding.

    ***************************

    :lol:

  16. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 4:12 pm

    Perez needs to go see Rick Peterson and totally rework his mechanics…and then hold a tryout session for scouts once he has recovered his 94mph fastball.

    But I truly am not sure he has the desire. He may just go off and retire on his earnings to date.

    The guy had a chance to go fix himself in minors last year, but selfishly keep a roster spot and hurt the team.

  17. Fran the original March 22nd, 2011 at 4:12 pm

    Nick,

    Does that mean Curtis can attend the Royal Wedding now?

  18. stuckey99 March 22nd, 2011 at 4:13 pm

    “Did MLB Radio report it?”

    “Or were the MLB radio hosts speculating?”

    Don’t know. We were all told the former in the last thread.

  19. Patrick March 22nd, 2011 at 4:13 pm

    Don’t know. We were all told the former in the last thread.

    Pretty sure that was a troll

  20. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 4:14 pm

    Khalil Greene?

  21. Nick in SF March 22nd, 2011 at 4:15 pm

    Patrick, it’s easy.

    Al Jazeera is reporting the Granderson could be out until after Ramadan! :shock:

  22. I Like Inge March 22nd, 2011 at 4:15 pm

    Wouldn’t mind seeing Princess Kate at in a Yankee Jersey.

  23. stuckey99 March 22nd, 2011 at 4:15 pm

    “Pretty sure that was a troll”

    I know. I’m speaking to the people who believed it anyway, even after I told them what it was.

    IR, you here buddy?

  24. Patrick March 22nd, 2011 at 4:15 pm

    Khalil Greene?

    He’s Baha’i, also not in baseball any longer

  25. Doreen March 22nd, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    Just saw the new thread.

    Repost, because it is really important:

    Scharffenberger is the BEST!!!!!!

  26. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    Patrick March 22nd, 2011 at 4:12 pm

    Was going to make a joke about Al Jazeera reporting on Granderson being out but there are no muslim baseball players
    ____________________
    Would a manager ever call a suicide squeeze if there was?

  27. Jerkface March 22nd, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    Fox News is reporting that Granderson will be out the entire year, which is good because its about time an AMERICAN got a chance to play centerfield for the yankees.

  28. Jerkface March 22nd, 2011 at 4:17 pm

    Wouldn’t mind seeing Princess Kate at in a Yankee Jersey.

    Didn’t know Upstate got promoted

  29. I Like Inge March 22nd, 2011 at 4:17 pm

    Middleton my dude

  30. Patrick March 22nd, 2011 at 4:18 pm

    Would a manager ever call a suicide squeeze if there was?

    That would certainly make the game more interesting.

  31. stuckey99 March 22nd, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    TMZ is reporting that Granderson is out until “Two and a Half Men” resumes production.

  32. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    I Like Inge March 22nd, 2011 at 4:17 pm

    Middleton my dude
    ______________
    Is that a coded request of some sort?

  33. Doreen March 22nd, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    I went shopping with my daughters yesterday and we stopped to buy some cute Yankees items in Victoria’s Secret. Some items are secret, but I got a cute t-shirt, and the girls got really great zippered sweatshirts.

    The guy working there (yes, a guy!) said that they had these items last season too, but the Yankees sold out completely while the Mets stuff just hung around.

  34. Patrick March 22nd, 2011 at 4:21 pm

    Al Jazeera is reporting the Granderson could be out until after Ramadan!

    I was trying to go for, “Al Jazeera is reporting that Granderson will be out for Opening Day. Yankees said to be in the market for . ”

    I fail

  35. upstate kate March 22nd, 2011 at 4:21 pm

    try to keep up Jerkface

  36. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 4:22 pm

    I went shopping with my daughters yesterday and we stopped to buy some cute Yankees items in Victoria’s Secret. Some items are secret, but I got a cute t-shirt, and the girls got really great zippered sweatshirts.
    _____________
    I always thought Victoria’s Secret was that he was a transvestite.

  37. Abe Peterham March 22nd, 2011 at 4:23 pm

    MLBradio said’ ‘Grandy out of season opener due to oblique strain” during their top of hour “news flash” at 1;00. havent heard if it continued on their subsequent updates..

  38. Erin March 22nd, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    Doreen-I got a Yankees T-shirt from Victoria’s Secret too! I had to get it online since they only carry the Chicago teams around here. I love their “Pink” line of clothes.

  39. Pat M. March 22nd, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    Nick in SF…..Do you own a circus as well ???? How do you pull this off ???? Beware of Erica though…..

  40. stuckey99 March 22nd, 2011 at 4:26 pm

    “The guy working there (yes, a guy!) said that they had these items last season too, but the Yankees sold out completely while the Mets stuff just hung around.”

    Hate to break it to you Doreen, but that guy didn’t work there… :-)

  41. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 4:26 pm

    Any game update?

  42. Irreverent Discourse March 22nd, 2011 at 4:26 pm

    IR, you here buddy?

    … am I IR?

  43. stuckey99 March 22nd, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    “MLBradio said’ ‘Grandy out of season opener due to oblique strain” during their top of hour “news flash” at 1;00. havent heard if it continued on their subsequent updates..”

    Regardless of whether it was really aired or heard, or made up by a poster, should of been obvious to all that its veracity was highly questionable.

  44. stuckey99 March 22nd, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    You are.

  45. stuckey99 March 22nd, 2011 at 4:30 pm

    “BryanHoch Yankees encouraged that Curtis Granderson’s oblique strain could be minor. No tests scheduled now, they’ll wait to see how he is tomorrow.”

  46. Erica in NY March 22nd, 2011 at 4:31 pm

    Pat M. March 22nd, 2011 at 4:24 pm
    Nick in SF…..Do you own a circus as well ???? How do you pull this off ???? Beware of Erica though…..

    ****************

    I don’t get it.
    But I do like chocolate

  47. Irreverent Discourse March 22nd, 2011 at 4:32 pm

    Go read what I said again then… because I certainly don’t take anything the idiot trolls say seriously.

    Regardless of when the stupid report says, Granderson is in fact injured. He has an oblique injury and he is very likely to not be ready to go in 9 days.

    A far fetch from “believing it anyway” and certainly not you “telling me what it was”…

    Did I miss something?

  48. Pat M. March 22nd, 2011 at 4:35 pm

    Nick in NJ……I just loaded up on BYU + 3 ….

  49. stuckey99 March 22nd, 2011 at 4:35 pm

    “He has an oblique injury and he is very likely to not be ready to go in 9 days.”

    Based on?

  50. Nick in SF March 22nd, 2011 at 4:36 pm

    Pat M., nice PT Barnum reference.

    I was looking at vegaswatch.com by mistake, now I see it’s vegaswatch.net.

    Are the lines that guy posted the definitive lines for your contest? Because I read his explanation and he said that he tweeked some lines so that there won’t be any pushes.

    For example, he has the Yanks at 90.5 wins now, but the book that he used to get that has them at 91 wins and other books I’ve checked have them at 91.5 or higher. There are a ton of books out there, but I would be surprised if anyone will really take a wager on the Yanks at 90.5 wins.

    Bodog, wsex, and pinnacle are all at 91.5.

  51. Irreverent Discourse March 22nd, 2011 at 4:39 pm

    stuckey99 – based on oblique injuries? it’s not some new body part he magically decided to injure…

    Even based on recent history… how long were mitre and joba out with theirs? They were also considered “minor” injuries.

    You know you don’t have to try to debate everything…

  52. Pat M. March 22nd, 2011 at 4:40 pm

    Nick in SF…..The person who is the bank that we all go bet against uses the Vegas Watch line…..Good point about the 1/2 wins this season, as I don’t recall so many last season…..

  53. Jerkface March 22nd, 2011 at 4:41 pm

    Cliff Lee strained his oblique last spring and missed the first month.

  54. stuckey99 March 22nd, 2011 at 4:46 pm

    “Even based on recent history… how long were mitre and joba out with theirs? They were also considered “minor” injuries.”

    It’s spring training IR, teams use caution they don’t use in the regular season, hence the phrase, “if it was the regular season, I’d be playing”.

    Mitre was out a few days if I remember correctly and even the whole time Chamberlain was out, he said he was asymptomatic and the Yanks were just be very, very cautious.

    You’re taking an alarmist’s view.

    And you choose to respond to my post, putting a phrase in quotes. Please save us both the “do you have to argue everything here.”.

    Not only is this irrelevant, it isn’t in the least bit discouraging.

  55. Nick in SF March 22nd, 2011 at 4:46 pm

    Lee could’ve come back much sooner, but why bother when it’s the Mariners?

    And he was also nursing a broken heart after the Phillies sent him away.

  56. stuckey99 March 22nd, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    Well, I’ll add it to my record then.

    Opening day:

    Granderson is in the line-up.

    Jeter is leading off.

    Nova is in the rotation.

    Nunez and Romine are on the bench.

  57. Jerkface March 22nd, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    Granderson is in the line-up.

    Jeter is batting second.

    Nova is in the rotation.

    Nunez and Montero are on the bench.

  58. vinny-b March 22nd, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    “I was asked above me to look into it (Oliver Perez) just to be certain,” Cashman said. “We always look at everything, but it’s not something that right now makes sense for us based on everything we’ve seen.”

    TRANSLATION: He sucks.

  59. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    stuckey99 March 22nd, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    Well, I’ll add it to my record then.
    _____________
    Do you have a Greatest Hits album?

  60. blake March 22nd, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    Montero will make the club.

  61. stuckey99 March 22nd, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    Stuckey Live At Budokan.

  62. Irreverent Discourse March 22nd, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    stuckey99 – You just brought this up like 3 hours after the initial post, a post that was not even directed at you in the slightest way.

    Don’t talk to me about “letting it go”. You are incapable of that, it’s very clear.

  63. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 4:56 pm

    stuckey99 March 22nd, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    Stuckey Live At Budokan.
    __________
    ROCK ON!

  64. Patrick March 22nd, 2011 at 4:56 pm

    Well, I’ll add it to my record then.

    Opening day:

    Granderson is in the line-up.

    Jeter is leading off.

    Nova is in the rotation.

    Nunez and Romine are on the bench.

    Look at how wrong you are!

    Although 2 for 4 isn’t a bad game, so you won’t be in the minors like Romine will be come opening day.

  65. stuckey99 March 22nd, 2011 at 4:56 pm

    Blake, probably. But I might as well go down with the ship.

  66. stuckey99 March 22nd, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    “Don’t talk to me about “letting it go”. You are incapable of that, it’s very clear.”

    Disinterested…

  67. Nick in SF March 22nd, 2011 at 4:59 pm

    “Nunez and Romine are on the bench.”

    You’re hurting your win percentage by bundling those two together. You could be three for five instead of two for four.

  68. Irreverent Discourse March 22nd, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    Guys, stuckey is being the bigger man and walking away from his idiocy.

    Big man. About time you learned some humility.

  69. Hackfreeze March 22nd, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    Oblique?
    Grandy
    Joba
    Mitre
    someone else too?

    Didn’t we fire the trainer after a bunch of hamstring pulls in spring training a couple of years ago?

  70. Patrick March 22nd, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    You’re hurting your win percentage by bundling those two together. You could be three for five instead of two for four.

    See Nick that’s why you win so many bets with me, you are a math wizard!

  71. Nick in SF March 22nd, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    Patrick, what is your prediction on the Orioles’ win total?

  72. pat March 22nd, 2011 at 5:02 pm

    Twitter heckling from Victor Conte could add a new angle to the Bonds case.

    VictorConte I believe that Jeff Novitzky is more guilty of perjury than all other parties involved in the BALCO case and his lies continue today.

  73. Irreverent Discourse March 22nd, 2011 at 5:03 pm

    hackfreeze yeah… i forget what it was though, weren’t everyone’s hamstrings or calves all messed up?

  74. Doreen March 22nd, 2011 at 5:03 pm

    Erin -

    It was so difficult not to buy a whole “ensemble,” but they are a bit pricey. But too cute to pass up altogether!

    They had White Sox t-shirts at the VS I went to in Westchester, and Cubs, too, I think. Just a small rack of those.

  75. Patrick March 22nd, 2011 at 5:03 pm

    Patrick, what is your prediction on the Orioles’ win total?

    75 wins or less

  76. blake March 22nd, 2011 at 5:04 pm

    Jeter, Arod, Teixera, Posada, Cano, Granderson, Swisher, Gardner, Martin

    Sabathia, Burnett, Hughes, Nova, Garcia

    Logan, Joba, Robertson, Feliciano, Colon, Soriano, Rivera

    Chavez, Montero, Jones, Nunez

  77. Patrick March 22nd, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    Jeter, Arod, Teixera, Posada, Cano, Granderson, Swisher, Gardner, Martin

    Sabathia, Burnett, Hughes, Nova, Garcia

    Logan, Joba, Robertson, Feliciano, Colon, Soriano, Rivera

    Chavez, Montero, Jones, Nunez

    Agreed, although I might flip Garcia and Colon. Garcia has already said he’d be willing to pitch out of the pen, not sure if Colon has said the same.

  78. Nick in SF March 22nd, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    “75 wins or less”

    Boooooo, I was hoping you would take a hard line and say 70 wins and then I could take the over and have a delicious 10-game chocolately middle.

  79. Hackfreeze March 22nd, 2011 at 5:06 pm

    I.D.: Yeah Marty Miller was fired ~

    Hamstring (and assorted other pulls):

    Phil Hughes
    Chien Ming Wang
    Mike Musssina
    Hideki Matsui

  80. stuckey99 March 22nd, 2011 at 5:07 pm

    “Guys, stuckey is being the bigger man and walking away from his idiot.”

    Fixed.

  81. Irreverent Discourse March 22nd, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    hold on let me go drag up some irrelevant thing you said while talking to someone else…

  82. Doreen March 22nd, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    Strained obliques are not just a Yankees phenomenon. In prepping for the fantasy draft, I read the injury report. Lots of oblique references.

    ***

    stuckey99 -

    I will admit to being naive at times, but the guy did work there.

    But, back to the issues at hand – why do you think Romine over Montero?

  83. blake March 22nd, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    Patrick,

    They both have said that…..either way Id keep them both around over Mitre at this point.

  84. Jerkface March 22nd, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    Stuckey once said he had command of the dialect, then completely misunderstood something. Go after him for that!

  85. Irreverent Discourse March 22nd, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    Is Prior totally out of the picture at this point? He’s only thrown like 4 innings so far…

  86. Patrick March 22nd, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    But, back to the issues at hand – why do you think Romine over Montero?

    Something about the future international baseball league with Derek Jeter’s grandson coaching the Eurotrash something or others

  87. Jerkface March 22nd, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    Is Prior totally out of the picture at this point? He’s only thrown like 4 innings so far

    He is willing to go to AAA, he has an opt out for the middle of the season. He will continue to work in AAA.

  88. Nick in SF March 22nd, 2011 at 5:11 pm

    According to an ESPN graphich this afternoon, Prior is one of the rotation candidates. :roll:

  89. Rich in NJ March 22nd, 2011 at 5:12 pm

    ““I was asked above me to look into it just to be certain,” Cashman said. “”

    Who’s the idiot, Hank or Levine?

  90. Irreverent Discourse March 22nd, 2011 at 5:12 pm

    nick – never doubt the yankees ability to invent a time machine i guess…

  91. Nick in SF March 22nd, 2011 at 5:12 pm

    BTW, a graphich is a graphic in between two pieces of bread. Cheese and mayo optional.

  92. LGY March 22nd, 2011 at 5:14 pm

    Am I alone on Pena over Nunez?

  93. Jerkface March 22nd, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    Am I alone on Pena over Nunez?

    Are you asking what will happen or what should happen? Pena over Nunez makes sense in many ways, but Nunez has clearly outplayed Pena and he doesnt have a future with the yankees anyways so I can see them taking him north.

    If you look at Nunez as a real prospect who can be a major league regular, its pretty obvious he should be back in AAA because there simply aren’t any at bats for him at the major league level with Chavez on the team.

    Maybe if Cashman listens to Randy and only plays Jeter in 120 games.

  94. Rich in NJ March 22nd, 2011 at 5:17 pm

    If Granderson is out for an extended time, I think you need Nunez around to play some OF.

  95. Jerkface March 22nd, 2011 at 5:18 pm

    If Granderson is out for an extended time, I think you need Nunez around to play some OF.

    Do you think the Yankees would trust Nunez over Jones in the OF? And wouldn’t they simply bring up Golson?

  96. Irreverent Discourse March 22nd, 2011 at 5:18 pm

    Nunez has a bit more position flexibility, I really don’t see what Pena brings to the table that Nunez doesnt.

  97. LGY March 22nd, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    Face

    What will happen

  98. Rich in NJ March 22nd, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    Jerkface

    Not to play Nunez over Jones, but I think you need a backup that has a chance to get a hit. I’m not sure Golson offers that.

  99. stuckey99 March 22nd, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    “Why do you think Romine over Montero?”

    I think IF Montero continued to struggle (which I acknowledge is becoming less of an issue) offensively and defensively, and given his very slow start to last season when he adjusted to a new level, that the Yanks would choose to send him to Scranton to try to get him going, and then reevalaute the major league roster when he was on solid footing.

    In this scenario, it’s just a matter of who they choose to essentially keep as an emergency catcher, until either Montero showed he was ready, or Cervelli got healthy. Which to me comes down to either Romine (who I think the Yankees believe can handle it defensively) or Molina.

    The organizations out-of-nowhere statement that Romine was in the competition when he returned from his personal leave, combined with his continued PT and Molina’s almost non-existent PT makes me believe the Yankees are really genuinely considering Romine, with the plan to get him back to Scranton one way or another before May 1.

    More succinctly, in a choice of the lesser of two evils, I think the Yanks would choose the better glove to back up Martin and catch/hit 9th 2-3 times, as well as protect Montero.

  100. Yank1 March 22nd, 2011 at 5:20 pm

    “Am I alone on Pena over Nunez?”

    Nope. The guy in the INF who probably needs the most time off is A-Rod. His position is covered by Chavez. When Tex needs a day off, you can plug anyone there.

    So really, all you need is a guy to cover the 10-15 combined games that Jeter/Cano will miss and a guy to pinch run every now and then late in a game.

    Pena makes the most sense for what we need, even though Nunez is the better player.

  101. stuckey99 March 22nd, 2011 at 5:22 pm

    “hold on let me go drag up some irrelevant thing you said while talking to someone else…”

    Ah, the “try to shame the other person for trying to get the last word while you try to get the last word” gambit.

    Internet classic.

    But wait, I just did it too.

    I think we created a rift in the time-space continuum!

  102. Betsy March 22nd, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    I’m sorry, that’s just stupid of Grandy not to say something. I get that players are sore all the time, but that kind of injury can be lingering……..and who knows if he didn’t aggravate it? It will be beyond frustrating if he’s out any length of time

  103. tyanksfan36 March 22nd, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    Betsy

    He did say something which is why he didn’t play today. It says he didn’t tell them right away. He probably felt tight there or something and thought he could work through it and realized he couldnt/shouldnt so they scratched him. He doesn’t seem to be too worried about it so its probably not serious.

  104. Doreen March 22nd, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    stuckey99

    I don’t necessarily disagree with that assessment. My feeling before Cervelli got hurt was that regardless of how Montero did, he should open at SWB to get regular playing time.

    Also, I’m very a very “whatever will be, will be” type of gal. I think sometimes things are way over-interpreted, over-thought.

    With regard to Nunez/Pena, I like that Nunez has more of a bat, but if the Yankees go with Pena, all it really means to me is that they want Nunez to have more regular work in the beginning of the season. However, it also sets up the question of, well, sending Pena down at some point, or trade. Of the two, Nunez would bring back more and I frankly don’t see any trades on the horizon until much later in the season (if at all, depending on how the players are performing and where the Yankees are in the standings, and if an elite player somehow becomes available). I am a a prospect hugger until they are gone, and then I move on (but still follow along from afar). All Yankees prospects will always be Yankees even if they’re traded.

  105. Nick in SF March 22nd, 2011 at 5:30 pm

    “The organizations out-of-nowhere statement that Romine was in the competition when he returned from his personal leave, combined with his continued PT and Molina’s almost non-existent PT makes me believe the Yankees are really genuinely considering Romine…”

    Was anything really out of nowhere? Romine was ostensibly in the competition even before Cervelli’s injury.

    Girardi/Cashman’s recent M.O. is to pretend there are legit competitions where there might not be. It’s much more in there style to say that there is still a competition between Montero and Romine that it would be for them to say that Montero has won the backup job to start the season.

    I don’t necessarily disagree about the thought process for having Montero start in AAA, but if they do that, maybe they don’t want to burn a year of Romine either. If Cervelli’s the guy they want until May then JF’s Molina theory could be the operative one.

    Then again, some thought it was going to be Montero even before Cervelli got hurt.

  106. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 5:30 pm

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    Mo So Jo DR JF BL FG
    RM JM
    MT RC DJ AR EC RP
    BG CG NS AJ
    JP

    SEND $5 FOR DECODER RING TO ME VIA PAYPAL

  107. Betsy March 22nd, 2011 at 5:31 pm

    I never liked Mitre anyway, but I’d much prefer to have Colon and Garcia. I honestly don’t think this ST is representative of what Garcia can give us……….Both could really help us, I think, with one being a long-man spot starter.

    It sounded (from reading the comments here) as if Prior looked good……….hopefully he’ll accept a AAA assignment and get a chance to pitch with the big club at some point

  108. 108 stitches March 22nd, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    blake March 22nd, 2011 at 5:04 pm
    Jeter, Arod, Teixera, Posada, Cano, Granderson, Swisher, Gardner, Martin

    Sabathia, Burnett, Hughes, Nova, Garcia

    Logan, Joba, Robertson, Feliciano, Colon, Soriano, Rivera

    Chavez, Montero, Jones, Nunez

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Anything different than this proposal is a surprise.

  109. Jerkface March 22nd, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    Nunez has a bit more position flexibility, I really don’t see what Pena brings to the table that Nunez doesnt.

    Pena has more position flexibility. He has more time at every infield position and more time in the outfield.

  110. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 5:33 pm

    Nunez could be sent to SWB to get both ABs and OF time and training. He still has turned wrong way on some balls in OF.

  111. Jerkface March 22nd, 2011 at 5:33 pm

    The organizations out-of-nowhere statement that Romine was in the competition when he returned from his personal leave, combined with his continued PT and Molina’s almost non-existent PT makes me believe the Yankees are really genuinely considering Romine, with the plan to get him back to Scranton one way or another before May 1.

    Isn’t it more likely that with cervelli injured they needed to conjure up a more heated positional battle to continue to motivate Montero? Montero has twice as much play time defensively and offensively as Romine and is hitting better. Romine is hitting .150

  112. Betsy March 22nd, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    Tyanks, I’ve learned never to listen to players’ opinions about their injuries. I’m not predicting he’ll be out for awhile, but I’m expecting the worst so I’m not unpleasantly surprised.

  113. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 5:35 pm

    JF–Why do you think Montero needs any motivation at all? He worked his butt off to get in the best shape of his life, and has worked hard to improve his defense.

  114. Rich in NJ March 22nd, 2011 at 5:35 pm

    If Jones hit, they can live with Pena. If he doesn’t, they probably should look at Nunez, although I would opt for Nunez now.

  115. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    Betsy March 22nd, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    Tyanks, I’ve learned never to listen to players’ opinions about their injuries. I’m not predicting he’ll be out for awhile, but I’m expecting the worst so I’m not unpleasantly surprised.
    ______________
    Forever the optimist!

    :-)
    JK

  116. Jerkface March 22nd, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    JF–Why do you think Montero needs any motivation at all? He worked his butt off to get in the best shape of his life, and has worked hard to improve his defense.

    Why did the Yankees conjure up a competition for Hughes who is equally as motivated and always comes into camp in the best shape of all the pitchers? Because the Yankees like competition, because competition breeds the best in people, and Montero lost his MAIN competitor for his job like 2 weeks into camp.

  117. Jerkface March 22nd, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    I have to go see Wicked, if anyone knows stats for broadway productions please let me know, I can’t get simple human enjoyment from anything without placing it into a spreadsheet first.

    tia

  118. stuckey99 March 22nd, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    “Was anything really out of nowhere? Romine was ostensibly in the competition even before Cervelli’s injury.”

    I think given his leave, it would have been very easy to simply reassign him to AAA camp with some of the previous cuts.

    I don’t disagree with Girardi/Cashman’s M.O. but on the other hand, couldn’t Molina have served as the sacrificial motivating stooge in their scheme?

    “If Cervelli’s the guy they want until May then JF’s Molina theory could be the operative one.”

    I can acknowledge that. I don’t see any indication that Molina is getting a legit look, but yes, there is logic there.

    “Some thought it was going to be Montero even before Cervelli got hurt.”

    Some thought he wouldn’t be struggling as much as he has with outside breaking pitches.

    I don’t doubt his future, but his present might be somewhat questionable.

    I think he’ll need to be hot and remove most doubts about his glove to go north. As I say, the Yanks seems to show a lean towards going with the glove for the back-up slot, in recent years.

    In all honestly, I’d say 25% Romine, 40% Montero, 30% Molina at this point. And since no one else even has Romine that high I’m sticking with my original call. Kind of like putting 5 bucks on the 500-1 shot at the beginning of the year.

    I gotta throw you guys a bone everyone once in a while.

  119. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    I see your point, but don’t think it was needed.

    As far as burning an option on Montero, I think this would only be an issue if he was more than 3 years away from the majors. I think they believe he will be up at some point this year and can be added to 40 man roster. That would allow them to start him in April to introduce him to the league, and see how he does.

    There is more upside to that approach than taking Molina.

  120. stuckey99 March 22nd, 2011 at 5:42 pm

    “hopefully he’ll accept a AAA assignment”

    Not only will be accept it, he advocates it.

  121. Betsy March 22nd, 2011 at 5:42 pm

    Bojo, it’s worked for me my entire life, lol……….and if it was a good enough attitude for Ben Franklin, it’s good enough for me, lol

  122. stuckey99 March 22nd, 2011 at 5:43 pm

    Q: Doesn’t bringing Montero up in mid-May buy the Yankees a year of service time?

  123. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 5:44 pm

    Betsy March 22nd, 2011 at 5:42 pm

    Bojo, it’s worked for me my entire life, lol……….and if it was a good enough attitude for Ben Franklin, it’s good enough for me, lol
    __________
    I really appreciate your ability to laugh at my feeble jokes. :-)

  124. Rich in NJ March 22nd, 2011 at 5:44 pm

    I subscribe to the potency of the power of positive thinking.

  125. stuckey99 March 22nd, 2011 at 5:44 pm

    “I have to go see Wicked, if anyone knows stats for broadway productions please let me know, I can’t get simple human enjoyment from anything without placing it into a spreadsheet first.”

    There is a 53.4% chance you will like it better than “Cats” and want to see it again and again.

    Had to go to the way-back machine for that one…

  126. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    stuckey99 March 22nd, 2011 at 5:43 pm

    Q: Doesn’t bringing Montero up in mid-May buy the Yankees a year of service time?
    ___________
    IIRC, Cash was asked about this and said it doesn’t matter to the Yankees. They’ll pay him when the time comes.

  127. Betsy March 22nd, 2011 at 5:48 pm

    Bojo, I have to laugh at mine, so I’m used to it, lol.

    Rich, whatever works for you is cool………….I’m not genetically blessed with a positive disposition. Such is life, lol

  128. blake March 22nd, 2011 at 5:48 pm

    Im not feeling overly confident in what Jones is going to provide other than decent backup outfield defense….hope Im wrong…..but also hope that they play Gardner and Granderson pretty much every day.

  129. Nick in SF March 22nd, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    “I don’t disagree with Girardi/Cashman’s M.O. but on the other hand, couldn’t Molina have served as the sacrificial motivating stooge in their scheme?”

    That wouldn’t make real sense because Romine was part of the “competition” before Cervelli got hurt. Taking away one of the other competitors shouldn’t diminish Romine’s chances, as they are, nor should it inspire Cashman/Girardi to suddenly come clean and cross Romine off the public list.

  130. Nick in SF March 22nd, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    Accroding to Ravitch/Kruk, Jones could open the season in CF. :rolls:

  131. Nick in SF March 22nd, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    Freudian slip, Jones has eaten too many rolls. :roll:

  132. Pat M. March 22nd, 2011 at 5:56 pm

    Nick in SF…..The boys in Vegas are holding onto a tough line on the SF Giants……We stole money from them last season but this season 88.5 is not so easy…..There’s always at least 2 sleepers out there every season the challenge is finding them……..The key usually found in the Inter League schedules…..If you see something that looks good pass it on to me via e-mail…….I have to turn everything in by March 30th…….

  133. Eroc March 22nd, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    “Im not feeling overly confident in what Jones is going to provide other than decent backup outfield defense….hope Im wrong…”

    Yeah, I agree unfortunately.

  134. jacksquat March 22nd, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    When was the last time the Yankees seemed like they held a good prospect down in the minors to get another year of service time?

  135. MTU March 22nd, 2011 at 5:58 pm

    Blake-

    Even though it is just ST I share your concern over Jones.

    He has shown nothing with the bat so far.

    The optimist in me says he nowhere to go but up.

    Let’s hope so.

  136. blake March 22nd, 2011 at 6:01 pm

    MTU,

    His swing is just really bad….he has very little margin for error wih it. If they use him as a true back up then I think that would be ok…..but Im not wild about any platoons involving taking Gardner or Granderson off the field.

  137. jacksquat March 22nd, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    I don’t think there will be a “platoon” where Jones is playing OF whenever they face a lhp, but I think he may play when they face lhp who are particularly tough on lhh, which doubles as an opportunity to give Granderson or Gardner a rest day.

  138. MTU March 22nd, 2011 at 6:06 pm

    Blake-

    I didn’t expect Jones to hit for much in the way of average but I did hope he would provide some pop off the bench.

    Hope that wasn’t a mistaken idea.

    We have several guys who can provide just defense.

    He needs to provide some power or his value is minimal.

    For example, Golson. He is a terrific defender and costs almost nothing.

    It’s very early.

  139. MTU March 22nd, 2011 at 6:07 pm

    New thread ==>

  140. Mell March 22nd, 2011 at 6:07 pm

    “If they use him as a true back up then I think that would be ok…..but Im not wild about any platoons involving taking Gardner or Granderson off the field.”

    Barring injury, I see Gardner and Granderson playing 150 games each. I think Jones will be more a bat off the bench than a true 4th OF. Don’t see him as a Spilborghs-type backup who might see 275-300 at bats a year.

  141. blake March 22nd, 2011 at 6:08 pm

    MTU,

    Yea I agree its early….again I hope Im wrong and that he provides what they hoped for …..which was basically Thames with defense.

  142. blake March 22nd, 2011 at 6:10 pm

    Mell,

    I agree with you but there has been some “he was brought in to play against lefties” talk that makes me wonder…..hope its as you say.

  143. stuckey99 March 22nd, 2011 at 6:11 pm

    Isn’t this about time someone post Marcus Thames’ 2010 spring training stats?

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