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Tuesday notes: Mitre doesn’t see today as a setback

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Mar 22, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Here’s Joe Girardi’s quick take on Sergio Mitre’s start this afternoon: “His sinker, when it was down, was not (for) strikes. And when it was up they hit it.”

That’s pretty much a worst-case scenario for a pitcher like Mitre. He needs the sinker to be effective, and he didn’t have the sinker today. Through just three innings, Mitre allowed five hits and five runs. He gave up two homers. Of course, the Yankees have seen Mitre when his sinker is working. They know he can be better than this, and they know he can be this bad.

“I don’t look at it as a setback,” Mitre said. “I’m hoping they don’t base everything off of one spring start.”

The Yankees won’t base everything off one spring start, but right now Ivan Nova and Bartolo Colon are clearly the rotation candidates stringing together the most quality spring starts. Mitre’s ERA jumped from 2.25 to 5.73 this afternoon. Freddy Garcia’s spring ERA is 5.93.

Is Mitre guaranteed at least a spot in the bullpen?

“There’s still decisions to be made there,” Girardi said.

Is Mitre certain he has a spot on the roster?

“I hope so,” Mitre said. “I don’t think there should be any reason why not. If I still have to worry about that then I’m probably not doing something right. I think I’ve done enough, and they’ve seen enough to where they know that I can get the job done. That’s just one thing that never crossed my mind, whether I’m making the team or not.”

• Mitre made it clear the he felt no pain today. “It’s not a problem physically,” he said. “The problem I was running into today was falling behind in the count.”

• Girardi said it’s possible he’ll have two different lineups, one for right-handed pitchers and one for lefties. It might make sense to bat Brett Gardner leadoff against righties and Derek Jeter against lefties (especially considering Andruw Jones will play a lot against lefties, occasionally starting in Gardner’s place).

• Probably goes without saying, but Girardi said the Yankees will probably have to carry another outfielder if Curtis Granderson is out for an extended period of time. Eduardo Nunez doesn’t have enough experience to be the fourth outfielder. “I think if Curtis was out for a while, I think we would go with another outfielder,” Girardi said. “Andruw (in the lineup), and then we would add someone.”

• Avoiding another AL East opponent, Rafael Soriano pitched in a minor league game this afternoon. He went 1.2 innings, allowing one hit and one run. The hit was a solo homer.

• Girardi on the Eric Chavez injury: “He said he felt better today. I said, ‘Well I’m going to wait until Friday anyway.’ It just makes sense.”

• Speaking of injury prone veterans in Yankee camp: Mark Prior pitched another scoreless inning this afternoon. He’s clearly not what he once was, but Prior seems to have shown enough to possibly become an option at some point. “We see his arm speed getting there, (and) we see his offspeed getting there,” Girardi said.

• Greg Golson said his sore oblique felt good today. He got a hit in his first at-bat and felt good through his schedule four innings. “It feels better than I thought it would,” he said.

• As for the idea of maybe landing a roster spot if Granderson is hurt, Golson refused to look at the injury as an opportunity. “Any time you’ve got a jersey on your back and you’re playing you’ve got an opportunity,” he said.

• Luis Ayala came into camp pretty far off the radar, but he’s had a nice spring. He threw another scoreless inning today, dropping his ERA to 0.93. He’s struck out eight and walked none this spring.

• Nick Swisher’s second double of the spring was the Yankees only extra-base hit in today’s 6-2 loss. Swisher had two of the Yankees seven hits. The others went to Golson, Andruw Jones, Melky Mesa, Jesus Montero and Kevin Russo.

Associated Press photos of Mitre, Girardi and Prior

 
 

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219 Responses to “Tuesday notes: Mitre doesn’t see today as a setback”

  1. Betsy March 22nd, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    It’s not a setback because he’s going to make the team thanks to Joe’s love for him. I’d prefer to see Colon/Garcia myself

  2. Betsy March 22nd, 2011 at 7:51 pm

    Like with Wood, I’m hoping for only good things for Prior, whether it’s with us or someone else. It’s really a shame when potentially great players are done in by injuries, but at least Prior still has as shot at having a productive career. I wonder what would have happened had he signed with us.

  3. Erica in NY March 22nd, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    Okay.. really leaving work now.

    23 minutes behind schedule… sigh :-(

    Good night Yankee people

  4. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    I wouldn’t bet the house on that Betsy.

  5. DocTodd March 22nd, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    Sinker was a stiNker

  6. blake March 22nd, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    “especially considering Andruw Jones will play a lot against lefties, occasionally starting in Gardner’s place).”

    errrrrr..

  7. mick March 22nd, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    It’s not a setback because he’s going to make the team thanks to Joe’s love for him.
    ==================
    you seem pretty sure of yourself, I beg to differ, that’s a lot to put on Girardi and doesn’t speak well of him as a Mgr.

  8. Betsy March 22nd, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    On, what, Bojo? That he could still have a productive career? I choose to think positive because the alternative would be that he’s completely done and I don’t want that to be the case.

  9. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    Sorry Betsy–your first post about Mitre making the club.

  10. blake March 22nd, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    Lol….they just said the Red Sox had a chance to score 1,000 runs and break the Yankees record for runs scored with an all star at every position…..

    Since when are Marco Scutero, JD Drew, Ellsbury, and Saltamacchia all stars?

  11. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    My connection was a little slow so I didn’t see your second post.

    I cut costs by using pigeons instead of an ISP.

  12. mick March 22nd, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    .they just said the Red Sox had a chance to score 1,000 runs
    ===========
    sez who?

  13. Betsy March 22nd, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    Oh, lol…….I’ve nothing against him personally, I just don’t think he’s all that good. I believe that there’s more to Garcia then we’re seeing in ST – as we discussed with Jones, bad STs often don’t mean anything.

  14. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    blake March 22nd, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    Lol….they just said the Red Sox had a chance to score 1,000 runs and break the Yankees record for runs scored
    ___________
    Did they specify how many seasons it would take them?

  15. Rich in NJ March 22nd, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    The RS are the beneficiary of the media’s anti-Yankee bias. It will be fun watching them underachieve.

  16. blake March 22nd, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    mlbtonight guys.

  17. BeholdArNo March 22nd, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    Sergio doesn’t see today as a setback. Lovely. Hey Serge, do you see your entire career as a setback?

  18. LGY March 22nd, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    Girardi said it’s possible he’ll have two different lineups, one for right-handed pitchers and one for lefties

    ***

    Good.

  19. blake March 22nd, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    The Red Sox stuff is reaching a ridiculous level……

  20. mick March 22nd, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    Coke (give me the ball) didn’t see it coming, Kennedy either….I feel this is it for Mitre.

  21. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    repost for MTU:

    MTU – definitely not it. Because there is nowhere I am more respectful of the Sux than with my family. And they are absolutely the same about the Yankees. But I guess I’m saying if I can’t trash them here with impunity, something is definitely wrong.

    I’ve been to fenway when the Yankees play there and while I scream my brains out for the Yankees, I never boo or trash the Sux. I’m in their home.

    I actually have a sense of propriety.

    ******************

    For anyone still questioning, grow up a Yankee fan 50 miles from the despised rival and let me know all about it. Until then you’ll just have to take my word for it.

  22. Rich in NJ March 22nd, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    “Good.”

    As long as the platoon is equally applied.

  23. MTU March 22nd, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    OK Trisha-

    I was only half serious any way.

    Randy sometimes speaks of life in enemy territory.

    It seems he likes to tweak them too.

    :)

  24. Giuseppe Franco March 22nd, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    Meh, let whomever say what they want about the Red Sox. I don’t pay attention to any of it.

  25. mick March 22nd, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    The Red Sox stuff is reaching a ridiculous level……
    ==============================
    Sensationalism rearing its ugly head….they are the Fox News of sports

  26. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    blake, this makes it even better. It’s going to be a blast watching the one with the target on its back shot down continually!

    :)

  27. LGY March 22nd, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    I prefer that but don’t believe it is even being considered.

    My realistic hope is to see Gardner-Jeter and Jeter-Swisher.

  28. MTU March 22nd, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    Blake-

    GGBG doesn’t have a platoon split does he ?

    Why would Girardi sit him against lefties in favor of Andruw ?

    I hope that’s not really the plan.

    I basically see Jones as a 4th Of’er/ bench player not any kind of regular.

  29. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    Is “meh” the equivalent of “bah”? I swear I never saw or heard “meh” until I came to this forum.

  30. mick March 22nd, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    the rs have the target on their backs this season….should be easy to shoot down

  31. mick March 22nd, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    i questioned meh once and discovered its roots lie with the Simpsons

  32. BeholdArNo March 22nd, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    Who cares what the red sox do or who they get gifted, not me any longer. Through time, Ive realized that acting like a pre-2004 red sox fan is….. I think it speaks for itself.

  33. Fran the original March 22nd, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    I like the Yankees playing the role of “underdogs”. Let Boston play with the targets on their backs.

  34. mick March 22nd, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    Why would Girardi sit him against lefties in favor of Andruw ?
    ======================================
    Its more for if Grandy has trouble with leftys

  35. MTU March 22nd, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    Mick-

    Thing of the past.

    ;)

  36. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    mick, that explains why I never saw or heard it before!

    :)

    Fran, absolutely. The Yankees are used to that inordinate pressure. Not sure the Suxers are.

    Cool.

  37. West Coast Yankee Fan March 22nd, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    “I hope so,” Mitre said. “I don’t think there should be any reason why not. If I still have to worry about that then I’m probably not doing something right. I think I’ve done enough, and they’ve seen enough to where they know that I can get the job done. That’s just one thing that never crossed my mind, whether I’m making the team or not.”

    *********

    Here’s a reason for you Sergio. There are two spots open and three guys. You, Colon and Garcia. They are better than you are, sorry. Bye.

    (IMO – the Girardi affection for Mitre is more tall tale than substantive. I think when it’s decision time anything in that arena won’t matter.)

  38. Nick in SF March 22nd, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    I’ve always thought ‘meh’ was a combination of ‘whatever’ and ‘grumble grumble’, a sort of resigned, semi-disinterested negativity. Perhaps I am wrong.

    ‘Bah!” is more aggressivley, angrily negative.

  39. blake March 22nd, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    MTU,

    I have no idea

  40. mick March 22nd, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    I think Homer Simpson coined the word Meh.

  41. E . R . California March 22nd, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    ” Avoiding another AL East opponent, Rafael Soriano pitched in a minor league game this afternoon ”

    Does this mean Rafael Soriano will pitch only one inning each against the A . L . East teams during the entire 2011 season ?

  42. Betsy March 22nd, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    I think the Sox are better, but I had to reach for a barf bag when Francesca started going on about how unbelievable their lineup is (which I think it is) and how awesome their rotation is. First he qualified things by saying that their rotation is loaded IF Beckett and Lackey improve; then he just said the rotation is great as is. I think they have a tremendous first two and I do think both pitchers will be better (not sure how much, but I think they will be), but can we wait and see first before suggesting their rotation is the bees’ knees?

    He also admitted the Yankees shouldn’t concede anything – I’m so glad he said that, lol

  43. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    Nick, makes sense.

  44. BeholdArNo March 22nd, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    The Yankees are always the underdogs!

  45. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    “Does this mean Rafael Soriano will pitch only one inning each against the A . L . East teams during the entire 2011 season ?”

    Since he annihilated them last season no need to waste his energy on them in ST.

    I’m sure that’s the thinking.

    But thanks for playing!

    Meanwhile, 3 ER in 3 innings is actually quite good for Lackey. Never enough to beat the Rays, but not bad for Lackey.

    :)

  46. E . R . California March 22nd, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    The R*d S*x will score at least 3000 runs this season . Book it .

    ( Heck , *dr**n G*nz*l*z will score at least 1000 run just by himself . )

  47. mick March 22nd, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    I think the Sox are better,
    =================
    unbelievable…are you a contrarian?

  48. Giuseppe Franco March 22nd, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    RAB definitely gets it right comparing “good journalism” (Jack Curry’s piece on Romine) and “bad journalism” (the hatchet job on Thames by the scumbag Simers).

    http://riveraveblues.com/2011/.....ism-45013/

    I guess the night will be complete when WCYF reads this post and tries to lecture us yet again on the role of the media in the US and quoting from his 6th grade Social Studies textbook.

  49. West Coast Yankee Fan March 22nd, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    The Sux are better? How so?

  50. mick March 22nd, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    how unbelievable their lineup is
    ======================
    hah!

    scutaro, salty, cameron, is ellsbury back?, the great drew, give me a break

    they dont hold a candle to the Yanks.

  51. BeholdArNo March 22nd, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    Ive never heard the word scumbag before ; )

    I think I might start using that word with regularity. Peter Gammons is a scumbag. That sounds about right : )

  52. MTU March 22nd, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    If A-Gon scores 1000 runs just by himself I’ll buy him a case of beer.

    And a ticket to watch the Yankees in the 2011 WS.

    A box seat. He’d have earned it.

    First he does have to prove he can dive for balls though.

    :)

  53. mick March 22nd, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    Francesca started going on about how unbelievable their lineup is (which I think it is) and how awesome their rotation is.
    ==========================
    Francesa (no c) goes over things in a cursory way, he states the obvious w/o looking deeply into it.
    He is there to stir the rivalry, he plants seeds.

  54. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    mick March 22nd, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    i questioned meh once and discovered its roots lie with the Simpsons
    ________________
    Really? People are influenced by what Jessica and Ashley say?

  55. Giuseppe Franco March 22nd, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    For those inclined to read the origin of “meh” via wikipedia.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meh

  56. Fran the original March 22nd, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    mick,

    I think that Beckett is a big ? in the Boston rotation.

  57. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    mick, I agree with you about the lineups and the Yanks superiority. Hands down.

    But I’m more than happy to go one by one and allow posters to tell me if they think I’ve overstated the case.

    Martin>Saltalamacchia
    Tex>Adrian Gonzalez. (I don’t look at what someone did in the NL as a valid test. So until I’m proven wrong, I go Tex.)

    Cano>Elfkin
    Jeter>Scutaro
    Arod>>>>>>>Youklis
    Swisher>Drew
    Grandy>Ellsbury
    Crawford>Gardner

    Would that seem to weigh in favor of the Yankees? Can’t see how else you could figure that one!

  58. mick March 22nd, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    fran

    he sure is and was last year. the yanks rattle him around all the time now and he once owned them, he barely gets thru the 5th now at 100 pitches.

  59. MTU March 22nd, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    Here’s what I think in reference to us and Boston.

    We’re probably gonna come close to splitting the season series.

    We’re both gonna be in the playoffs.

    We’ll go from there.

    :)

  60. LGY March 22nd, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    Bah is an appropriate response to something like…

    The Orioles will be better than .500 next season.

  61. Giuseppe Franco March 22nd, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    Francesa is also the same clown who said the Yanks needed to do whatever it takes to trade for Nate McLouth.

    Yeah, that would’ve have worked out swimmingly.

  62. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    Fran, there are definite questions with Beckett, Lackey and Matsuzaka. That’s 3 out of 5 with definite questions. Their pen can’t even sniff ours. And their lineup isn’t as good as ours!

    Can someone please enlighten me as to where the rumor started that they are the team to beat? Maybe Heyman started it?

  63. mick March 22nd, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    will beckett earn the 63m owed him over the next 4 years, meh, i doubt it…

  64. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    MTU – I think I give the nod to the Rays over the Sux.

  65. MTU March 22nd, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    And TB will not win 90 games.

    ;)

  66. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    Boston is really going to be exposed in the play-offs to LHP. Not sure they even make it to second round…if they make the paly-offs at all (due to injuries and lack of depth).

  67. LGY March 22nd, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    Arod>>>>>>>Youklis

    ****

    I love A Rod but this is not even close.

    Youk may actually be better next season based on how each have playred the past two seasons.

  68. mick March 22nd, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    francesa jumped all over mclouth after his 2008 season, stating the obvious and prob never saw him play…havent heard his name in years

  69. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    Oops. 4-1 Rays. 4 ER Lackey.

    :D

    Yeah, okay. They’re the bomb.

    If anyone has any cogent discourse in support of why the Sux have gotten all the hype that they have, please bring it forward. And before you begin, please discuss my head-to-head chart and show me where you think I’m wrong about the superiority of the lineups.

    Thanks!

  70. Carlo March 22nd, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    Anyone know what the deal is with Ayala? Can he open the season with SWB or will he be released if not with the big club?

  71. MTU March 22nd, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    Trisha-

    Not me. Not enough offense and a TERRIBLE BP.

    Niemann has to bounce back.

    Hellickson is an unknown over a full season.

    And “small game” Shields just sucks.

    That leaves Price and Davis.

  72. West Coast Yankee Fan March 22nd, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    I think the Yankees have an edge talent wise. But total objectivity could lead one to believe that The Red Sux and Yankees are both very talented ball clubs that will probably battle it out the entire season. Injuries or the absence of them will go a long way towards determining who comes out ahead in the end. Their are question marks as far as both teams rotations are concerned. After Sabathia and Lester I think anyone who claims to know how 2-5 will do for either club are just speculating.

  73. Yankee Trader March 22nd, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    Would Girardi employ this 1000 runs/season lineup against righthanders: :)

    Gardner LF
    Swisher RF
    Cano 2B
    A-Rod 3B
    Tex 1B
    Granderson CF
    Posada DH
    Jeter SS
    Martin C

  74. mick March 22nd, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    We’re both gonna be in the playoffs.
    ========================
    Not if there staff performs like last years

  75. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 8:34 pm

    LGY, you’ve been itching for a bet. Okay, I’ll take Arod hands down. You take Pukeface. Candy where your mouth is time.

  76. mick March 22nd, 2011 at 8:34 pm

    why the Sux have gotten all the hype
    =========================
    it sells.
    boston fans dont believe it.

  77. West Coast Yankee Fan March 22nd, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    Caution. Having seen him play more than a few times, IMO no one should underestimate A-Gon. Tex better? I wouldn’t say that.

  78. Betsy March 22nd, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    Then the Yankees could have traded McClouth for Bronson Arroyo, lol.
    I respect the Sox, too, but he seems to think the are infallible.

  79. LGY March 22nd, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    I prefer Alex to Youk next season but to claim he is way better than Youk like you did is not even close to accurate.

  80. tyanksfan36 March 22nd, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    I have a fantasy baseball conundrum. I might have to drop Ramiro Pena and pick up a real first baseman. It gave me youkilis as my first baseman and he isn’t playing there so I only have Freedie Freeman who can play first. I don’t know if I want to get rid of Youkilis because even though he is a suck, he can still hit, but I don’t want to give up Sandoval.

  81. West Coast Yankee Fan March 22nd, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    Petco:

    Left field: 334 feet
    Left-center: 367 feet
    Center field: 396 feet
    Deepest right-center: 402 feet
    Right-center: 387 feet
    Right field: 322 feet.

    Fences: Left field: 4 feet; center field: 7 feet; right field: 12 feet; right field porch: 10 feet.

  82. mick March 22nd, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    Fran wants us to think he’s a genius.
    He owns the bully pulpit and cuts off anyone who disagrees with him.

  83. MTU March 22nd, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    Mick-

    That’s true. But I expect it will do better with the possible exception
    of Mr. Japan.

    I guess you don’t think so ?

    I’m not gonna worry about the Sux because either way I know we’ll make the playoffs if we stay healthy.

    The final dances are what matters anyway. The rest is just fluff.

  84. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    MTU, I’m thinking that Manny and Damon might just supply the needed power to really push them over the top.

    The faith of a mustard seed can move mountains! I have great faith in their ability to put their pitching together.

    If Satan had a team in the AL East I’d pick it over the Sux!

    :)

  85. Carlo March 22nd, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    Mick – its hard to say “not if their staff performs like last year”. At the ASB they were 1.5 games behind us. In the 2H of the year, they outpitched us but their offense fell off a cliff with pedroia and youkillis out. Had that not happened, it very well may have been them and tampa in and us out. Not thrilled with saying that, but that’s the reality.

  86. Chase March 22nd, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    LGY,

    A-Rod is an all-world baseball talent. When right, almost nobody is better.

    A-Rod > Youk … just because the last couple years Youk has come on and Alex dwindled a bit doesn’t mean he’s a better player.

    Youk could never in his dreams put up a season like Alex’s 2007. They’re just 2 different players, and one is better.

  87. RayVT March 22nd, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    I’d say Tex & AGone are even. ARod is better than Youk.

  88. Fran the original March 22nd, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    mick,
    Yeah, people talk about Yankee contracts. Beckett’s contract is a terrible one for Boston.
    **************
    Trisha,
    I definitely agree that the Yanks have the best bullpen in baseball. And Boston definitely has rotation questions.
    *************
    Betsy,
    And Francesa is a Yankees fan!

  89. Betsy March 22nd, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    Fran, I don’t believe it’s necessary as a Yankee fan to think everything about the Sox is bad or that they are necessarily worse than we are, but he goes overboard many times.

  90. mick March 22nd, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    mtu

    beckett lackey and even buccholz are question marks
    their pen is prob overrated
    i can see a tough al central team getting the wild card

  91. Rich in NJ March 22nd, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    Gonzalez is probably a little better than Teix as long as Teix returns to form.

  92. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    “it sells.
    boston fans dont believe it.”

    I’d say you’re right.

    And seeing that I walk on a daily basis with one of the biggest Sux fans/Yankee haters known to human kind, I can also agree with your take on boston fans not believing it. In their very private moments, they do disclose their trepidations.

  93. Pat M. March 22nd, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    WCYF…..I too have been watching Gonzalez play for several years and he’s real good…However at this point in time he’s still chasing Texeria is the pecking order….

  94. MTU March 22nd, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    Trisha-

    I understand your deep dislike. I’ll support you.

    I will hope the Rays edge out the Sox.

    Just to please you.

    No skin off my nose as long as the Yankees are in the finals (which they will be).

    :)

  95. mick March 22nd, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    carlo

    are you counting on buchholz having another year like last?
    beckett is hurt and lackey is overrated.
    if not for aj we win 100 games last year

  96. RayVT March 22nd, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    tyanksfan36 March 22nd, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    Hello! I once dropped Peds & I still won the fantasy league that year. That said, I wouldn’t drop Youk. I would be willing to trade you for Freeman if you want. LOL! I have a ton of closers & only 2 SP.

  97. MTU March 22nd, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    Mick-

    It’s Ok with me as long as the Yankees are in.

    They’re whole team can underperform as far as I’m concerned.

    That would be a hoot.

    ;)

  98. mick March 22nd, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    In their very private moments, they do disclose their trepidations.
    =========================================
    they have lost that lovin feeling…being the underdog and all that….they think because they won twice they are now us and will face further disappointment from this lack of identity.

    they, in fact, have lost their identity.

    it’s a shame :)

  99. Carlo March 22nd, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    Mick – no, I’m not counting on any of that stuff. I’m not saying you are wrong. I’m merely pointing out that if our staff isn’t better year over year they’ll be right there with us at year end and presumably both of us will be ahead of Tampa.

  100. Fran the original March 22nd, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    tyanks,
    As long as Youklis is listed as a 1st baseman, which he still is, you can use him at 1st base if you want and keep Pena and everybody else.

    *************

    Betsy,
    You’re right. I guess though what I should have said is what you said that sometimes he goes too far overboard.

  101. Pat M. March 22nd, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    WCYF….It’s the heavy Pacific air at Petco that kniock down flyballs….And yes right field is a 3 wood

  102. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    tyanks, go to the FA list and see if any players are listed at both 1B and other positions. Last year I had Aubrey Huff and he qualified at 1B and OF. So I could use him interchangeably.

    Of course you should drop Sandoval! (Because dammit I wanted him. So you’re the one who grabbed him away from me.)

    :)

  103. West Coast Yankee Fan March 22nd, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    Why do you think so Pat? Petco for a left-handed hitter is almost an unfair match up no? I think they are close.

  104. Fran the original March 22nd, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    tyanks,

    Or you could trade with Ray :)

  105. West Coast Yankee Fan March 22nd, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    The air in combination with the dimensions don’t you think?

  106. mick March 22nd, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    Look for major years from Tex, Jeter and Alex this season.
    They all have something to prove.

    Nothing boston has can compete with them
    And you can throw in Granderson.

  107. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    Tyanks, Fran is right. As long as ESPN lists the player at a certain position, you can use him there. So you’re all set.

    Ray, there are still SPs on the FA market. You need to go and pick some up!

  108. MTU March 22nd, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    I am always happy when the boy genius “Theocraticus Spohisticus”
    fails.

    Nothin’ like watchin’ his swollen head go “pop”.

    And Henry. He treats his players like assets on a balance sheet in one of his freakin’ hedge funds.

    He needs to play the “Lion” in the Wizard of Oz.

    At least that way he’d have a heart.

    ;)

  109. Fran the original March 22nd, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    Look for major years from Tex, Jeter and Alex this season
    ***********
    Mick,

    I hope you are right for the Yankees and for my fantasy team. I have Alex and Tex.

  110. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    mick, you can continue to speak for me also. I believe you are spot on with respect to the difference in Yankee and Sux lineups.

    ************

    By the way, fantasy leaguers I just thought I would tell you that I changed my team name to – are you ready – TEAM PERSPICACITY

  111. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    In evaluating AGon and Youklis, I think I would pick ARod and Tex. I want to see how well AGon plays after shoulder problems, and I never like to pick a player (Youklis) after hand/wrist problems if they are power hitters.

    If totally healthy, I probably would take AGon and Arod. I think ARod is in for an MVP effort this year.

  112. Pat M. March 22nd, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    WCYF…..For some reason the ball just doesn’t have good carry to right at night and the flags tend to blow out to right……I’ve only been there maybe 10-12 times since it opened, but like you we’ve seen the Dodgers play there and Vinny is always mentioning how the ball just doesn’t travel well to right…….Great ballpark !!!!

  113. mick March 22nd, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    # mick March 22nd, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    Look for major years from Tex, Jeter and Alex this season.
    They all have something to prove.

    Nothing boston has can compete with them
    And you can throw in Granderson.
    =================================
    But how would this sound on espn….America could care less….let’s shove the adorable rs down their throats, that’s what they like, yeah that’s the ticket…

  114. Nick in SF March 22nd, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    “And Henry. He treats his players like assets on a balance sheet in one of his freakin’ hedge funds.”

    Is that worse than ‘inventory’?

  115. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    That should have had a :D after it, but it posted before I was ready to let it go.

    *************

    Here’s another thing with a :D after it.

    5 innings of play, Rays 5-1. 5 ER for Lackey.

  116. MTU March 22nd, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    Enjoy your evening folks.

    C U tomorrow.

    :)

  117. RayVT March 22nd, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    I’m still at work & can’t go on ESPN & pick up a SP yet.

  118. LGY March 22nd, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    Chase

    The only thing that matters is what he does in 2011. Not what he can do or what he did do in the past.

    Like I said, I would prefer Alex but the gap is not huge as Trisha claimed it is.

  119. Fran the original March 22nd, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    Ray,

    We’ll leave some for you :)

  120. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    Recycling night–see you all later.

  121. mick March 22nd, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    Gotta love Lackey’s deal too….61m over next 4 years….lol

  122. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    Night MT!

    :)

    Ray I’ll check what’s there and email you. You definitely need to do it asap. You probably need at least 5 more, yes?

    Seriously, there are some SPs out there who are definitely worth a flier.

  123. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    Night bojo!

    :)

    Recycle well.

  124. Fran the original March 22nd, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    Trisha,

    Love your new team name :)

  125. mick March 22nd, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    Like I said, I would prefer Alex but the gap is not huge as Trisha claimed it is.
    ===================================
    I’d take Alex and his best year over Youklis and his best any day of the week.
    Has Youk won an MVP yet?

  126. RayVT March 22nd, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    TY

    I’d drop Pena. I don’t expect him to be on the Yanks MLB roster & if he is he won’t play much.

  127. tyanksfan36 March 22nd, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    Thanks Fran

    I ended up dropping Pena and Cody Ross and picking up Matt Laporta and Alexi Casilla, I had a lot of outfielders and not as many infielders on my bench though I think all my outfielders are listed as DTD but im sure they will be fine by the start of the season. I also needed someone who could play the 2b/ss that played more regularly since I just have one SS and one 2B. I think Ill figure it out more once the season starts.

  128. Nick in SF March 22nd, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    Fran, happy birthday!

  129. MTU March 22nd, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    Nick-

    Not fond of either word in that context.

    Too cold and clinical.

    Have a good night.

    :)

  130. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    I truly believe Alex is going to rake this season. Don’t know what Pukey will do. Not saying he doesn’t have talent, despite his being shuffled off to 3B and batting 211 this ST as opposed to Alex’s 410.

    Ummmm, I’ll take Alex for 1000, Alex!

    :)

  131. RayVT March 22nd, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    Happy Birthday Fran!

  132. tyanksfan36 March 22nd, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    I changed my team name too. Bimmer’s Bombers (pronounced beamer) after my dog.

  133. West Coast Yankee Fan March 22nd, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    Pat M. March 22nd, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    WCYF…..For some reason the ball just doesn’t have good carry to right at night and the flags tend to blow out to right……I’ve only been there maybe 10-12 times since it opened, but like you we’ve seen the Dodgers play there and Vinny is always mentioning how the ball just doesn’t travel well to right…….Great ballpark !!!!

    **************

    Good point about night carry. It is a great Park. San Diego is a great city and we always tried to do a weekend trip. It’s really common to see really power hitters square up and come up 20-30 feet short. The ball leaps off A-Gon’s bat, sounds different.

    His stats on the road were significantly better than at Petco.

  134. Fran the original March 22nd, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    Nick,
    Thanks for the birthday wishes.

    ***********
    Tyanks,
    I saw what you did. Look like good moves to me. And you have all season to make changes as we go.

  135. mick March 22nd, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    Nice chattin with all of you.
    You can come back now Betsy.

  136. LGY March 22nd, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    d take Alex and his best year over Youklis and his best any day of the week.
    Has Youk won an MVP yet?

    **

    Alex is putting up his best year next season?

  137. Fran the original March 22nd, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    Ray,
    Thanks for the birthday wishes.

    *******************
    tyanks,
    Fun team name. A real tongue twister :)

  138. tyanksfan36 March 22nd, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    Thanks Fran, I told my dog that I renamed my team after him so I hope that he brings it good luck. He just rolled over and went back to sleep.

    Have you had a good birthday so far?

  139. blake March 22nd, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    Alex’s best is on a different level than Youkalis….they have only been comparable players the last couple of years because we haven’t seen Alex’s best.

    Gonzalez is a really good player but just how good he is is greatly being overstated by the media. He’s hit .300 one time and OPS’d over .900 twice in his career. Boston is a whole different animal and so is the AL east….let’s see how he handles those changes before crowning him the greatest player in history.

  140. Fran the original March 22nd, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    tyanks,
    Your dog can be your team mascot :)

    Had a very nice birthday thanks. And I got a great present from my family-an iMac and wireless printer. They actually gave me the computer last week.

  141. blake March 22nd, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    If Alex is healthy all season he will have a better year than Youkalis who is being asked to move back to a more demanding position…especially for a guy with his body type.

  142. tyanksfan36 March 22nd, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    Blake

    I agree with you on Gonzalez. The same with Crawford. He had a career year last season but that doesnt mean he will continue putting up good(not even great) numbers.

  143. mick March 22nd, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    I can actually see the Yanks running away with the whole thing this year.
    They will be on a mission.

  144. Fran the original March 22nd, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    blake,

    Plus it’s an odd-numbered year and Alex seems to excel in odd-numbered years.

  145. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    “If Alex is healthy all season he will have a better year than Youkalis who is being asked to move back to a more demanding position…especially for a guy with his body type.”

    blake, absolutely. There’s only one Arod. Seriously. Good God his talent is in a league of its own.

  146. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    “Blake

    I agree with you on Gonzalez. The same with Crawford. He had a career year last season but that doesnt mean he will continue putting up good(not even great) numbers.”

    tyanks, and you know the school of thought about career years in the last year of a contract…

    “I can actually see the Yanks running away with the whole thing this year.
    They will be on a mission.”

    Agree again.

    “blake,

    Plus it’s an odd-numbered year and Alex seems to excel in odd-numbered years.”

    It’s an oddism, but its’ true, for whatever reason. (It seems that every other year his love life is where he wants it to be…)

    :)

  147. mick March 22nd, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    I can actually see the Yanks running away with the whole thing this year.
    They will be on a mission.
    ====================
    Thanks to the media who have tried to recreate the rs as underdog thing but that ship has sailed.
    The lovable sox are dead, they have lost their charm.

  148. J. Alfred Prufrock March 22nd, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 9:01 pm
    I truly believe Alex is going to rake this season. Don’t know what Pukey will do. Not saying he doesn’t have talent, despite his being shuffled off to 3B and batting 211 this ST as opposed to Alex’s 410.

    Ummmm, I’ll take Alex for 1000, Alex!

    ///
    Uh, yea. Alex in a landslide. Alex over the rainbow.

  149. tyanksfan36 March 22nd, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    Fran

    That’s awesome. I want a Mac eventually, my brother is hardcore PC so I think he would disown me if I got a Mac but I still want one.

  150. J. Alfred Prufrock March 22nd, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    & know what else, Alex is muuuuuuuuchhhh prettier, too.

  151. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    I was actually going to ask for suggestions for a team name but got sidetracked beating off gnats this afternoon so never got to it.

  152. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    “& know what else, Alex is muuuuuuuuchhhh prettier, too.”

    I was actually going to say that and then decided not to. But that is true.

    :)

  153. blake March 22nd, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    I think Alex has another 1.000 OPS season in him….he just needs good health and 150 games played.

  154. mick March 22nd, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    Thanks to the media who have tried to recreate the rs as underdog thing but that ship has sailed.
    The lovable sox are dead, they have lost their charm.
    ======================================
    Now they are just more talented than the Yankees.
    Yeah, right, try another one.

    (This talking to myself thing seems to be working for me)

  155. Fran the original March 22nd, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    Tyanks,

    I love it. My family was always PCs, but lately have all switched to Macs. I am the last one.

  156. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    As an early birthday present, Fran got Arod on her fantasy team!

  157. Fran the original March 22nd, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    beating off gnats this afternoon so never got to it.
    *****************
    Trisha,
    Good or you might have called your team the Gnats :)

  158. Fran the original March 22nd, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    Trisha, Alex was a good present too!

  159. jacksquat March 22nd, 2011 at 9:26 pm

    Girardi said it’s possible he’ll have two different lineups, one for right-handed pitchers and one for lefties.

    OMG, there is hope…

  160. E . R . California March 22nd, 2011 at 9:30 pm

    So any guess on who will get injured tomorrow from Yankee camp ?

  161. SAS March 22nd, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    Good evening everyone,

    Trying to catch up with today’s happenings.

    ———————————-

    Fran,

    You must be thrilled with your new ‘toys’.

  162. blake March 22nd, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    “Girardi said it’s possible he’ll have two different lineups, one for right-handed pitchers and one for lefties”

    RHP

    Gardner
    Jeter
    Teixera
    Rodriguez
    Cano
    Swisher
    Granderson
    Posada
    Martin

    LHP

    Jeter
    Swisher
    Teixera
    Rodriguez
    Cano
    Posada
    Granderson
    Martin
    Gardner.

  163. Pat M. March 22nd, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    Time to go catch a HS night game…..Mick, you’re asking for trouble

  164. J. Alfred Prufrock March 22nd, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 6:34 pm
    Interesting to hear Joba state that there was never an injury to his shoulder (as Cashman indicated), but that it was always just about the mechanics. Validates what many have been saying for over a year…i.e., Eiland didn’t get it done, and Joba still has the ability.

    If he shows continued mechanics consistency, he will be crashing down the door to start late this year or next spring.

    ///
    Wow, he said it AGAIN?? Man, he must be privately steamed that he’s had to listen to that stuff, which now really appears to have been invented. So glad stick-up-his-butt, road-rage faced Eiland is history. If they don’t trade Chamberlain & he’s healthy & dealing all yr like this with the velo spike, & he doesn’t figure into the starter mix next season,somebody needs to start a search for the dead body.

  165. Against All Odds March 22nd, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    Reply to a previous post

    # BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 6:34 pm

    Interesting to hear Joba state that there was never an injury to his shoulder (as Cashman indicated), but that it was always just about the mechanics. Validates what many have been saying for over a year…i.e., Eiland didn’t get it done, and Joba still has the ability.

    If he shows continued mechanics consistency, he will be crashing down the door to start late this year or next spring.

    ————————–

    No matter how much he improves there is no way he starts for this club. I love the way he’s pitching though.

  166. Fran the original March 22nd, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    Pat M, have fun.

    SAS, I love my new computer and printer :)
    If you want to add/drop players, they are almost all free agents now so you can add/drop as many as you like.

  167. Asd March 22nd, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    Everyone remember the Spring Training Locker Room from Chad a few weeks ago? I made it into a physical map, if anyone is interested. http://cl.ly/3j0x2Y3N0a0N3S373N2O

  168. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    “So any guess on who will get injured tomorrow from Yankee camp ?”

    I can tell you who got injured tonight. John Lackey. To the tune of 5 ER!!!! HOLY CRAPSKI!!!

    Rays leading 6-1. Manny and Johnny said to tell you hi!!!!

    :lol: :lol: :lol:

  169. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    Fran, we are able to use all 9 of our pitchers every day?

  170. Fran the original March 22nd, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    Trisha, yes all 9. I actually gave 1 bench spot to a pitcher, so I have an extra.

  171. Fran the original March 22nd, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    Asd,

    Nice job. Looks like a really huge locker room.

  172. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    Taking a recycling break…

    Trisha–that can’t be right. 5 runs for Lackey? Are you sure that is John Lackey, and not just Some Lackey?

  173. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    Against All Odds March 22nd, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    No matter how much he improves there is no way he starts for this club. I love the way he’s pitching though.
    ___________
    I continue to hope you are wrong on this. He hasn’t even hit full maturity as a pitcher…and is about the same age as Brackman and Hughes, and IMO has better talent when his mechanics are on.

  174. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    bojo – :lol:

    Fran – where do I find the points breakdown?

  175. Asd March 22nd, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    Yes Fran, I had to bother poor Chad MULTIPLE times to make sure I had the dimensions correct. As always, he was a saint to help.

  176. GreenBeret7 March 22nd, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    What a treasure to find, huh? Would give anything to see this get copied.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....um=twitter

  177. Fran the original March 22nd, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    Trisha,

    I think it’s under the League Tab, go to settings and scroll down.

  178. J. Alfred Prufrock March 22nd, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    Rays leading 6-1. Manny and Johnny said to tell you hi!!!!
    ///

    :D . My two cents on your Red Sux mission: spare nothing & no one.

  179. Fran the original March 22nd, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    Asd,

    Well then good work by you and Chad :)

  180. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    :)

    I went to that tab about 5 times. Never scrolled down far enough.

    Thanks.

    :)

  181. GreenBeret7 March 22nd, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    The only saint on this board is Da Saint007, Simon Templar

  182. J. Alfred Prufrock March 22nd, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 9:49 pm
    Against All Odds March 22nd, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    No matter how much he improves there is no way he starts for this club. I love the way he’s pitching though.
    ___________
    I continue to hope you are wrong on this. He hasn’t even hit full maturity as a pitcher…and is about the same age as Brackman and Hughes, and IMO has better talent when his mechanics are on.
    ///
    Odds just doesn’t want to get his hopes crushed on this, which I can relate to.

  183. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    “My two cents on your Red Sux mission: spare nothing & no one.”

    Sir, yessir!!!!

    :D

  184. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    Our combined faith will be powerful grasshopper. It will sweep the fated Joba to his rightful place at the top of the rotation, and he will bring us honor and much joy.

  185. West Coast Yankee Fan March 22nd, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    I love the way a comment from Joba all of a sudden becomes the gospel and takes precedent over the Yankees medical personnel and baseball professionals. Now his shoulder injury was imaginary. And Eiland becomes the whipping boy and excuse de jour for all that ailed any Yankee pitcher. What nonsense.

    2008 As Starter (Pre-Injury) – 2.76 ERA – 10.19 K/9 – 3.44 BB/9 – 2.90 FIP

    2009 As Starter (Post-Injury) -4.78 ERA – 7.60 K/9 – 4.38 BB/9 – 4.84 FIP

  186. J. Alfred Prufrock March 22nd, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 9:59 pm
    Our combined faith will be powerful grasshopper. It will sweep the fated Joba to his rightful place at the top of the rotation, and he will bring us honor and much joy.
    ///

    Wow Bojo, that’s effin inspired! Hear, hear!

  187. Against All Odds March 22nd, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    # BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    Against All Odds March 22nd, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    No matter how much he improves there is no way he starts for this club. I love the way he’s pitching though.
    ___________
    I continue to hope you are wrong on this. He hasn’t even hit full maturity as a pitcher…and is about the same age as Brackman and Hughes, and IMO has better talent when his mechanics are on.

    ————————–

    I hope I’m wrong too nothing would make me happier trust me. Before I signed up to Lohud I would bang the drum on other boards stating that Joba would have a chance to start if Lee and Andy weren’t on the team. But then seeing how he was used down the stretch in 2010 I realized him starting was a long shot and then it hit rock bottom when Cashman and Girardi stated early in the winter that Joba wasn’t going to start. I’ve come to the conclusion that no matter what he does ir what need arises he won’t start for this club again….unfortunately.

  188. yankeefeminista March 22nd, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    tyanksfan36 March 22nd, 2011 at 9:20 pm
    Fran

    That’s awesome. I want a Mac eventually, my brother is hardcore PC so I think he would disown me if I got a Mac but I still want one.
    _____
    Macs rule!!! :)

  189. SAS March 22nd, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    Fran,

    The SP I wanted is gone. I also am trying to remember drop a player so I can pick one up etc.

  190. Against All Odds March 22nd, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    # J. Alfred Prufrock March 22nd, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 9:49 pm
    Against All Odds March 22nd, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    No matter how much he improves there is no way he starts for this club. I love the way he’s pitching though.
    ___________
    I continue to hope you are wrong on this. He hasn’t even hit full maturity as a pitcher…and is about the same age as Brackman and Hughes, and IMO has better talent when his mechanics are on.
    ///
    Odds just doesn’t want to get his hopes crushed on this, which I can relate to.

    —————————————

    Exactly I’ve been down that road before. I seriously believe they have closed the chapter on him starting.

  191. Fran the original March 22nd, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    yankeefem,

    The Mac is amazing. Like I told tyanks, we always had PCs. I am so glad we switched.

  192. tyanksfan36 March 22nd, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    GB7

    you would be happy to know that DJ Mitchell looked really good at the minor league complex. I dont think he allowed a hit and was striking guys out.

  193. Against All Odds March 22nd, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    # BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    Our combined faith will be powerful grasshopper. It will sweep the fated Joba to his rightful place at the top of the rotation, and he will bring us honor and much joy.

    ———————————

    From your lips to God’s ears

  194. SAS March 22nd, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    Fran,

    I need to watch my TV show for a while…so no worries tonight.

  195. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    AAO

    Faith is keeping your belief when all signs point against it. It is a powerful thing.

  196. tyanksfan36 March 22nd, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    Trisha

    as much as I hate the sox, I wish they were being beat so bad by a team other than the Rays. Ever since they won in 2008, their fans have become very entitled and annoying.

  197. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    tyanks, happy to let the Jays do it then.

    :)

  198. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    bojo, I’m adding my faith to yours and J Al’s on Joba. Absolutely and unequivocally all-encompassing faith that it will happen.

  199. J. Alfred Prufrock March 22nd, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    —————————————

    Exactly I’ve been down that road before. I seriously believe they have closed the chapter on him starting.
    ///

    If he’s bringing it free & easy all yr maybe the new guy with fresh, unbiased eyes wonders aloud why he’s not in the rotation. The weigh-in from a new decision maker in the fold who isn’t bogged down with the history of this strange thing may swing the day in our favor. Either way, we can continue to be internet instigators on the subject ;) .

  200. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    Great night all.

    It’s so nice being on with the more mellow crowd…

    :)

    See you on the morrow.

  201. GreenBeret7 March 22nd, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    TY, that sounds like good news for Mitchell. What about the hitters?

  202. GreenBeret7 March 22nd, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue March 22nd, 2011 at 10:15 pm
    Great night all.

    It’s so nice being on with the more mellow crowd…

    See you on the morrow.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    A mellow morrow?

  203. J. Alfred Prufrock March 22nd, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    See, Trisha’s in we cannot fail :D .

  204. Fran the original March 22nd, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    A mellow morrow
    *************
    GB,

    How about a Mallowmar? Did you ever have those cookies?

  205. yankeefeminista March 22nd, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock March 22nd, 2011 at 10:17 pm
    See, Trisha’s in we cannot fail .
    _________
    Jobber is a startah and don’t you forget it! :)

  206. GreenBeret7 March 22nd, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    fran, I bought some a couple of years ago. Theres still 3/4ths of them left. “Killer” refused to eat the rest of them.

  207. J. Alfred Prufrock March 22nd, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan March 22nd, 2011 at 10:00 pm
    I love the way a comment from Joba all of a sudden becomes the gospel and takes precedent over the Yankees medical personnel and baseball professionals. Now his shoulder injury was imaginary. And Eiland becomes the whipping boy and excuse de jour for all that ailed any Yankee pitcher. What nonsense.
    ///

    Dave Eiland, Martyr. Um, naah. & Joba should kinda sorta know what his own bleepin’ shoulder feels like. He didn’t say he never had the tendinitis, he said he never had a shoulder injury (tendinitis ain’t an injury) & that his shoulder was never a problem.

  208. Fran the original March 22nd, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    GB,

    I thought they were pretty good. Don’t think they make them anymore. Probably good news for “Killer”.

  209. J. Alfred Prufrock March 22nd, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    yankeefeminista March 22nd, 2011 at 10:20 pm
    J. Alfred Prufrock March 22nd, 2011 at 10:17 pm
    See, Trisha’s in we cannot fail .
    _________
    Jobber is a startah and don’t you forget it!

    ///
    make that Trisha & Yankfem. We’re golden :D .

  210. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    GN Trisha–sleep well!

  211. yankeefeminista March 22nd, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    tyanksfan36 March 22nd, 2011 at 10:07 pm
    GB7

    you would be happy to know that DJ Mitchell looked really good at the minor league complex. I dont think he allowed a hit and was striking guys out.
    ____
    Glad to hear DJ pitched well. As I have said before, I like DJ a lot and I agree with you GB7 that he is under the radar. However, I think he will be a good mlb pitcher one day.

    Brackman got hit a little but I read that his slider looked good.

  212. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    Faith-based fan rooting–the new wave!

  213. yankeefeminista March 22nd, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    ‘Night, Trisha.

  214. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    Is Brackman going to go to a slider or a curve–or both? Many pitchers need to choose one or the other….

  215. yankeefeminista March 22nd, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    Fran the original March 22nd, 2011 at 10:06 pm
    yankeefem,

    The Mac is amazing. Like I told tyanks, we always had PCs. I am so glad we switched.
    _____
    Yes, I love my macbook, and my 2002 ibook is still hanging in there. I don’t even know how to use a pc. :hide:

  216. BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    Time to get back to the recycling…good night night people!

  217. yankeefeminista March 22nd, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    BoJo March 22nd, 2011 at 10:29 pm
    Is Brackman going to go to a slider or a curve–or both? Many pitchers need to choose one or the other….
    _____
    Brackman has a great curve, the slider is compensation for his lack of a reliable change. He’ll use both. No way he dumps the power curve.

  218. Against All Odds March 22nd, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    Night Bojo

  219. yankeefeminista March 22nd, 2011 at 10:39 pm

    Night, Bojo.

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