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Dickerson settles into his new surroundings

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc, Podcast on Mar 26, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Chris Dickerson said there were more familiar faces than he was expecting when he walked into the Yankees clubhouse this morning. He knows Russell Martin from their time in the National League. He knows Brett Gardner because they played against one another in the minor leagues and were in the Fall League together. He knows Eric Chavez because … actually, I’m not sure why he knows Eric Chavez, but he does.

One thing Dickerson did not expect was to have his first Yankees locker right next to the current Yankees captain. Dickerson had been in the clubhouse for a few minutes — getting his gear and being constantly pointed in the right direction — before he finally realized who was in the locker next to him.

“I just noticed that. Seriously,” he said. “I just got back from the training room with my pants, and I was walking over here and I looked. Ohhh. Okay. Yeah. Wow. A trash can separates us.”

Welcome to the Yankees, Chris.

And Yankees, meet your new outfielder.

Dickerson doubled in his first at-bat, then hit an RBI single up the middle in his second. He singled again in his third at-bat and — in a most unexpected twist — was pulled from the game with cramping and spasms in his hamstring. The Yankees are hoping it’s a minor issue that resolves itself in a day or two.

With the Brewers, Dickerson opened the spring in a competition for the starting center field job and had settled into a fourth outfielder role before Friday’s trade. With the Yankees, his best chance of making the Opening Day roster is that Curtis Granderson opens on the disabled list.

“It’s not something that you really want to concern yourself about and think too much about,” Dickerson said. “It’s more just coming here and try to get prepared and put yourself in a position to help the team. Continue to work hard these last couple of days. You can’t make it too complex.”

Dickerson’s mother was born in Brooklyn, his grandmother lives in Queens and the Yankees drafted him out of high school (but his mother wanted him to go to college, so he didn’t sign).

“It’s really exciting for my mom’s side of the family especially,” he said.

Here’s Dickerson talking before the game. He was in the trainer’s room after the game and didn’t talk about the injury.

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240 Responses to “Dickerson settles into his new surroundings”

  1. Betsy March 26th, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    Really a shame he hurt himself today – I hope it is just a cramp. I heard him speak about his mom today – really seems like a good kid.

  2. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    # mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    these college games are just ridiculous
    best sporting event in America.

  3. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    uconn, butler and vcu are on serious rolls

  4. Fran the original March 26th, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    Congratulations to UConn.

    Mick,
    I would love to see VCU win tomorrow.

  5. GreenBeret7 March 26th, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    More bad new for the Mets and their new catcher, Ronny Paulino?

    http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/ne.....8;c_id=nym

  6. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    Yes Fran so would I.
    But they wouldn’t beat Butler but that’s ok.
    Uconn-KY or NC is the question.

  7. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    what is wrong with the fahshtunkin Knicks???

  8. GreenBeret7 March 26th, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    Clint barmes is out at least 6 weeks after being hit on the hand and breaking it in the yankee game.

  9. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    Mr Big Shot has shot his load.

  10. Fran the original March 26th, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    Mick,

    But it would be pretty amazing for VCU to win tomorrow and knock out the last #1.

  11. Joe from Long Island March 26th, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    That’s it for me. Good night, guys. Thanks for keeping me company (wife’s on the road).

    “See” you tomorrow.

  12. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    Car-Marsh-Melo is soft.

  13. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:26 pm

    Epic collapse by Knicks.

  14. GreenBeret7 March 26th, 2011 at 9:27 pm

    Remy is either off of his meds or on somebody elses to compare the 2011 Red Sox to the 1978 Red sox. Their pitching staff isn’t close. Not to mention center field right field, catcher….

  15. Fran the original March 26th, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    Knicks loose again. Don’t see D’Antoni lasting past this season.

  16. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    Isaiah on he horizon.

  17. Betsy March 26th, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    He’s going to stay as long as Walsh is here – Walsh hired him. I’m thinking now that Walsh won’t be back, so if someone else is brought in, I’m sure Mike will be gone. This team is just horrid- and it’s not all the coach’s fault.

  18. Fran the original March 26th, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    Isaiah on he horizon
    *************
    Mick,

    I hope that is another one of your jokes :)

  19. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    they have 9 games left with a magic # of 6

    it is possible they can lose the rest of their games for a 15 game losing streak and still make the playoffs.

  20. Rich in NJ March 26th, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    I just hope he’s OK.

  21. LGY March 26th, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    Montero would have been in the majors at some point last season with most clubs. The Yankee don’t give young position players a shot until they are basically forced to.

    For all the talk about Boston’s catching situation, the Yanks could be shaping up to have abysmal production from the position. Wouldn’t be surprised to see the

  22. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    He’s going to stay as long as Walsh is here – Walsh hired him.
    ======================================
    Nope. Dolan hired them both and will fire them together.

  23. LGY March 26th, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    the sox get better production at C

  24. joeman March 26th, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    3 of the last 4 years in the final 4

  25. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    This team is just horrid- and it’s not all the coach’s fault.
    ===================================
    His system blows. He never accepts blame.

  26. Betsy March 26th, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    LGY, I am much more positive about Martin than you……I guess we’ll just have to wait and see

  27. LGY March 26th, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    Melo is the only one showing up lately.

    Not sure why Amare gets such a pass. He has been awful on both ends.

  28. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    Isaiah on the horizon
    ===============
    Not if they continue like this. It’s no joke.

  29. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    Not sure why Amare gets such a pass. He has been awful on both ends.
    ==========
    Antoni (No D) says he’s tired.

  30. joeman March 26th, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    Before you do it, take time to think through it.

  31. LGY March 26th, 2011 at 9:39 pm

    Amare makes Melo look like Dwight Howard on the defensive end.

  32. Betsy March 26th, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    Melo’s done plenty wrong since he’s been here, including acting like a selfish, disinterested baby. Amare avoids general criticism because he took this team on his shoulders before Melo came here………

  33. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    Antoni’s system does not fit with these players.
    He needs to run and Billups is shot.
    Melo stops the flow.
    The Coach must go.

  34. Against All Odds March 26th, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    # Fran the original March 26th, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    Knicks loose again. Don’t see D’Antoni lasting past this season.

    ———————————————————

    My belief was Mike would get another yr because of all the changes to his roster. Whenever someone said Mike needs to go I would reply unless this completely falls apart he’s coming back next yr. It’s getting to the point where it’s falling apart.

  35. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    Listen to Antoni in the postgame.
    He will talk about the offense not getting it yet.
    He’s the one who doesn’t get it.

  36. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    It’s getting to the point where it’s falling apart.
    ===============Might be the best that could happen.
    Who needs the playoffs, take the draft pick instead.

  37. Pat M. March 26th, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    Late season trade is going to take sometime to adjust….Did anyone think otherwise ???? I understand this is an oxymoron for NY’ers, but be patient

  38. BeholdArNo March 26th, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    Rome wasn’t built in a day. The 2 main pieces are in place for years to come. A few complementing pieces and a real coach and the team should be pretty good next year.

    Let’s just hope for the 7 seed and for the Bulls to keep the 1 seed, the Heat to overtake the celtics for the 2 seed. We lose to Miami in 5 games in the 1st round, and then Miami dispatches of the celtics in the 2nd round to save me some years on my life.

  39. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    The knicks might win 3 more games, tops.
    They play Cleve. which is a loss.

  40. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    Loose balls, they never get loose balls.

  41. LGY March 26th, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    Betsy

    Because Alan Hahn said so?

    The writers smell blood right now. Don’t buy the hyperbole.

  42. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    sheldon wiolliams might give them a lift.
    Give me a break.

  43. Fran the original March 26th, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    Against All Odds,

    It seems to be falling apart. And I don’t think the players are enamored with D’Antoni.

  44. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    Late season trade is going to take sometime to adjust…
    =======
    Pat M

    It’s more than that. The team is deficient in size , plays no D.

  45. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    And I don’t think the players are enamored with D’Antoni.
    ===========
    Fran it’s true. They can’t run his system.They will run him out…

  46. Against All Odds March 26th, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    # mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    It’s getting to the point where it’s falling apart.
    ===============Might be the best that could happen.
    Who needs the playoffs, take the draft pick instead.

    —————————————————–

    The need the PS. They can’t continue to slip.

  47. Betsy March 26th, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    LGY, Hahn was not the only one who noticed Melo’s bizarre behavior. By no means am I blaming him for this collapse, but I’m not going to blame Amare either- I’m going to blame EVERYONE. That includes the players, the coach and the GM.

    Either way, since Amare and Melo both suck and don’t care about D, I think assuming they are going to make this team title contenders is a mistake.

  48. blake March 26th, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    Pat M,

    I hope you’re right…they beat Kentucky once already this year and did so pre- Kendall Marshall running the point….but that doesn’t really mean much this time of year.
    -
    Dickerson seems like a solid addition….especially when you acquire him for someone that was probably going to be cut soon anyway.

  49. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    Minn. and Toronto are the only winnable games left on sked.

  50. Against All Odds March 26th, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    # Pat M. March 26th, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    Late season trade is going to take sometime to adjust….Did anyone think otherwise ???? I understand this is an oxymoron for NY’ers, but be patient

    —————————————-

    I think ppl would be ok if they were competitive in games. We all understand that things take time to gel. But in a number of games we we’ve them get blown out in the first half and struggle down the stretch of games. There are some teams they can’t go toe to toe with but how many bad teams have they lost too.

  51. BeholdArNo March 26th, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    Hope UNC can dispatch the Kentucky Judds tomorrow.

    I wouldn’t mind a complete NYK collapse in hopes that _’Antoni gets the heave ho. He “succeeded” in Phoenix because he had 2 leaders on the court and the right complementing pieces.

  52. Betsy March 26th, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    Odds, they’ll get to the playoffs and get blown out in a sweep. I suppose they need to make the playoffs just so they can say they didn’t completely collapse, but even if they make it – they’ve collapsed.

  53. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    Fields has sucked since the trade.
    Billups is done.
    This is a 2 man team.
    Peter Vescey was right.

  54. LGY March 26th, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    Knicks need an elite defender next to Amare.

    He has been exposd even more since Bills came since he is slower than Felon. More guards getting to the paint and Amare nowhere to be found. Literally has his back turned facing the wrong direction a few times a game.

    The best thing to happen in his career would be to get mike away from him. He needs to learn from scratch how to play D from a real coach.

  55. Fran the original March 26th, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    Mick,

    Did you hear at the end of the game the announcers were all over the Knick’s defense. What defense?

    There have been rumors of Phil Jackson coming here to coach, but I don’t see that happening.

  56. Pat M. March 26th, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    mick…..Regardless of the trade, The Knick players logged so many minutes early in the season so I expected the tank to run low once March rolled in….They’ve needed a real center even before the trade, and there’s no second unit to speak of…..They’ll rev it up in the first round and maybe even pull an upset…….Wouldn’t it make great copy if The Zen-Man wanted to by pass retirement and call The Garden his office for a season or two ????? I always thought Coach Brown got jobbed while he was here….

  57. Against All Odds March 26th, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    we’ve seen them*

  58. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    Pat

    Logged minutes, every team logs minutes…Antoni has a run and gun approach which Felton could handle and Mr Big Shot cannot.

  59. blake March 26th, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    Maybe the Knicks can lure Coach K away since he won’t take the Lakers job :)

  60. Against All Odds March 26th, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    @ Phil would be good but the next Knick coach could be Doc Rivers

  61. BeholdArNo March 26th, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    Knicks just need a center, not an elite defender, but a defensive minded center, allowing Amar’e to switch to his normal position. And a real coach. Defense can be taught by a coach and learned by the players. Look at what Tom Thibideau has done with Rose and to an extent, Boozer. _’Antoni’s gimmick offense is never going to win in this league.

  62. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    Amare has terrible hands and has lost what was his team.
    Melo has gotten in over his head here even if it’s his hometown.
    The boos will reign tmorrow at the Garden and it won’t be pleasant.

  63. Against All Odds March 26th, 2011 at 9:58 pm

    # Betsy March 26th, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    Odds, they’ll get to the playoffs and get blown out in a sweep. I suppose they need to make the playoffs just so they can say they didn’t completely collapse, but even if they make it – they’ve collapsed.

    ————————————-

    True they are collapsing down the stretch. I’m sure once the PS starts they will do their best to put the regular season behind them.

  64. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    “The Ship Be Sinkin” to quote the immortal Micheal Ray Richardson.

  65. Rich in NJ March 26th, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    “I think ppl would be ok if they were competitive in games. We all understand that things take time to gel. But in a number of games we we’ve them get blown out in the first half and struggle down the stretch of games. There are some teams they can’t go toe to toe with but how many bad teams have they lost too.”

    Spot on. The problem is what appears to be the inconsistent efforts and lack of a defensive commitment, not the results.

    I wouldn’t care if they lost every game if I saw something that resembled a coherent path toward reaching the desired goal.

    If you watch all the games, it’s obvious that isn’t happening.

  66. BeholdArNo March 26th, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    Doc Rivers isn’t the answer. The guy won nothing in his career without the Big 3, the magic of boston, and the referees.

  67. mick March 26th, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    Denver snookered us by offering Billups for Felton. They knew he was shot.

  68. LGY March 26th, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    It doesn’t matter if Amare switches to his real position. He can’t guard anyone.

    Next Knicks game just concentrate on him when the other team has the ball. Just follow Amare.

    It is almost comical how bad he is.

  69. mick March 26th, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    They have gotten less athletic. They always had scoring.
    Better athletes play better defense.

  70. mick March 26th, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    When they were 3-8 Amare stood up and they took off.
    It’s no longer his team.
    It’s Melo’s and he’s no where to be seen after games.

  71. Rich in NJ March 26th, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    “Doc Rivers isn’t the answer. The guy won nothing in his career without the Big 3, the magic of boston, and the referees.”

    How many rings does Phil Jackson win without Jordan? How many without Kobe?

  72. Against All Odds March 26th, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    # BeholdArNo March 26th, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    Knicks just need a center, not an elite defender, but a defensive minded center, allowing Amar’e to switch to his normal position. And a real coach. Defense can be taught by a coach and learned by the players. Look at what Tom Thibideau has done with Rose and to an extent, Boozer. _’Antoni’s gimmick offense is never going to win in this league.

    ———————————-

    Look what Thibideau and Garnett did with the Celtics once they joined the team. Ppl forget for many yrs Boston was all offensive team throwing up 3′s at will.

  73. BeholdArNo March 26th, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    Actually, Amar’e struggles with help defense. Statistics have shown that he is similar, if not better than, Bosh with on-ball defense. Get a big man, switch him to his real position, have a real coach come in and teach him defense and team defense, and everything will be fine.

  74. mick March 26th, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    melo and now amare will appear on msg.com for their intervbiews…what a sham!

  75. Against All Odds March 26th, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    # BeholdArNo March 26th, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    Doc Rivers isn’t the answer. The guy won nothing in his career without the Big 3, the magic of boston, and the referees.

    ———————————–

    Doc Rivers is one of the best coaches in the NBA.

  76. BeholdArNo March 26th, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    Rich – That’s comical…..comparing Doc Rivers to the greatest coach of all time, Phil Jackson.

  77. mick March 26th, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    Get a big man, switch him to his real position, have a real coach come in and teach him defense and team de
    ==========
    who is this big Man you speak of?

  78. Rich in NJ March 26th, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    “Rich – That’s comical…..comparing Doc Rivers to the greatest coach of all time, Phil Jackson”

    More comical than pretending that NBA coaches win rings without great players? You cannot be serious.

    Then again, maybe you are, because if you understood that, you wouldn’t think that I made that comparison.

  79. BeholdArNo March 26th, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    Against All Odds – Ill agree to disagree. Put Doc on another team like the Grizzlies or a team in the West and see what he accomplishes. Nothing. Undefeated in the weak Atlantic division

  80. Against All Odds March 26th, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    # Rich in NJ March 26th, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    “I think ppl would be ok if they were competitive in games. We all understand that things take time to gel. But in a number of games we we’ve them get blown out in the first half and struggle down the stretch of games. There are some teams they can’t go toe to toe with but how many bad teams have they lost too.”

    Spot on. The problem is what appears to be the inconsistent efforts and lack of a defensive commitment, not the results.

    I wouldn’t care if they lost every game if I saw something that resembled a coherent path toward reaching the desired goal.

    If you watch all the games, it’s obvious that isn’t happening.

    —————————————–

    Very well said Rich. It’s like sometimes they don’t realize the game starts at a certain time. There are a handful of examples where they were down big in the 1st quarter to bad teams.

  81. mick March 26th, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    you need more than a big man…you need depth….you need a total rehaul of this team…a point guard….an enforcer….DWIGHT HOWARD

  82. BeholdArNo March 26th, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    Rich – You’re comparing the Big 3, 3 future Hall of Famers, to Kobe Bryant and co. What player on the last 2 NBA Championship Lakers teams is a future hall of famer besides Kobe?

  83. GreenBeret7 March 26th, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    Bobby Jenks and the Red Sox just blew a 8-1 and 9-2 9th inning lead. It doesn’t matter that it’s ST, but, they’re about to lose 9 straight, trailing 9-8 in bottom of the 9th.

  84. mick March 26th, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    I don’t blame it entirely on the trade…this would have happened with Gallo, Chandler and Felton…the system sucks….the Coach believes in it and he will be gone soon.

  85. Against All Odds March 26th, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    # BeholdArNo March 26th, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    Against All Odds – Ill agree to disagree. Put Doc on another team like the Grizzlies or a team in the West and see what he accomplishes. Nothing. Undefeated in the weak Atlantic division

    —————————————–

    The Grizzlies are a solid team. You can’t tell me that Doc with that talent wouldn’t make them better. They wouldn’t be the Celtics but they would take a step forward.

  86. Rich in NJ March 26th, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    Rich – You’re comparing the Big 3, 3 future Hall of Famers, to Kobe Bryant and co. What player on the last 2 NBA Championship Lakers teams is a future hall of famer besides Kobe?

    Who’s roster would you rather have, Boston’s or LA’s?

    btw, I’ll take LA’s.

  87. mick March 26th, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    Donnie Walsh is admitting this to be his fault….he is gone. Welcome back Isaiah.

  88. Against All Odds March 26th, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    # mick March 26th, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    you need more than a big man…you need depth….you need a total rehaul of this team…a point guard….an enforcer….DWIGHT HOWARD

    —————————————-

    If Howard leaves Orlando then LA is his likely destination. The Knicks can still get Cp3

  89. mick March 26th, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    Boomer is preaching and I agree:

    We all fell for this trade: hook,line and sinker.

  90. Rich in NJ March 26th, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    I have no problem with the trade. I would make it again.

  91. mick March 26th, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    And this thread was supposed to be about Eric Dickerson, my bad.
    I’m out…

  92. BeholdArNo March 26th, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    What roster would I rather have in 2008-2009 and 2009-2010? The Celtics roster. According to most “experts,” Rondo is also a future hall of famer. Seriously.

    IMO, Rondo is the most important part of that team and is very good, considering he has no perimeter shot.

  93. LGY March 26th, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    Body stinks defensively also. That isn’t a good endorsement.

    help d is my main point. Why I said CB has exposed him even more.

    AMare plays PF all the time now with Handler gone. Makes no difference.

    You need an elite d center because he has to do the work of two players

    As Walt says, Amare with the matador D.

  94. LGY March 26th, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    Bosh not body

  95. BeholdArNo March 26th, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    Any NBA GM makes the Carmelo trade. A rookie Mozgof who started all of 15 games, and injury prone poor man’s Dirk Nowitzki, and Felton, a guy who was gone after next year. Although, as for the current Knicks, they’d be better with Felton running the show than the washed-up Billups.

  96. LGY March 26th, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    Still think the Knicks can pull off an upset in the first round.

    I talked up CB so much I have to stick by him. He will come alive.

  97. Against All Odds March 26th, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    BeholdArNo March 26th, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    Any NBA GM makes the Carmelo trade.

    ——————————-

    We see eye to eye on that one.

  98. Rich in NJ March 26th, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    “What roster would I rather have in 2008-2009 and 2009-2010? The Celtics roster. According to most “experts,” Rondo is also a future hall of famer. Seriously.

    Chery picking years evades the issue. The Lakers have all-NBA talent.

    IMO, Rondo is the most important part of that team and is very good, considering he has no perimeter shot.”

    I’ll still take Pierce. Garnett and Allen are in decline; Rondo second. But not of that changes my point.

    Neither Jackson nor Rivers win without highly talented rosters.

    If that’s not true, why did Jackson turn down ridiculous money to coach the Knicks a few years ago?

    Because he knew he couldn’t win.

  99. blake March 26th, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    I don’t know if Gasol is a HOFer yet but he’s one of the best players in the Nba

  100. Betsy March 26th, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    Odds, I doubt it. Although I get why Meo wanted his money, he basically forced the Knicks to trade their entire team………….and for what? Was he worth it? We weren’t going to win a title with that team, but Melo is not Lebron or Koba…..he’s not. I’m almost sorry we made that trade- although prior to it, the Knicks were playing badly as well.

    LGY, if the Knicks win one game – or even come close to it – I’d be shocked.

  101. BeholdArNo March 26th, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    blake True.

    Betsy If you pit Miami against the Knicks, I could see the revival of the old rivalry making the Knicks actually play from start to finish. Probably win 2 games, possibly – although very slim – win the series. But, Id want the Heat to win the series so they’d have home court against the celtics in the 2nd round.

  102. Betsy March 26th, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    Arno, forget that game a few weeks ago – this is not the same Knicks team and it’s not the same Heat team. What a disgrace this team is.

  103. mick March 26th, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    you guys are still talkin playoffs….they might not make it….2 winnable games, Minn and Tor, 2.
    Cleve, Bost, Phil, Magic,Nets,Ind, Chi all losses.
    2-9 with a magic # of 6. They need 4 losses from MIl and Char.

  104. mick March 26th, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    2-7

  105. Rich in NJ March 26th, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    The Knicks are actually ripe for a turnaround.

    Sometimes new coaches come in and break a team down only to build them back up in his image.

    D’Antoni hasn’ done that, but this mess has created an opportunity for him..

    Maybe he can seize it.

    The other key is Billups. He has to be healthy. I’m not sure he is.

  106. mick March 26th, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    They were on their honeymoon then.
    It’s over.

  107. Against All Odds March 26th, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    Betsy March 26th, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    Odds, I doubt it. Although I get why Meo wanted his money, he basically forced the Knicks to trade their entire team………….and for what? Was he worth it? We weren’t going to win a title with that team, but Melo is not Lebron or Koba…..he’s not. I’m almost sorry we made that trade- although prior to it, the Knicks were playing badly as well.

    ————————————–

    True Melo isn’t Lebron or Kobe.

    They needed to do the trade. Things don’t look good now but I believe they are set up to be good/great going forward. There are things they need to work on though I can’t deny that.

  108. mick March 26th, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    37-45 not a playoff team

  109. mick March 26th, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    Better off not making playoffs, get a lottery pick.

  110. BeholdArNo March 26th, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    The Bulls could really help themselves out and us with a win tonight over the Bucks. Tie game with 7 minutes remaining.

  111. LGY March 26th, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    I wonder what kind of odds I can get on loud on the Knicks winning the first round.

  112. Betsy March 26th, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    Odds, maybe this off-season I’ll feel better about them – eh, probably not. I’m not sure the Knicks care at this point, so I wonder why fans should.

    I also wonder why anyone would pay the 49% increase in ticket prices – think Dolan acted prematurely, lol?

  113. Against All Odds March 26th, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    # mick March 26th, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    37-45 not a playoff team

    ———————-

    It is in the East lol

  114. mick March 26th, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    D’Antoni hasn’ done that, but this mess has created an opportunity for him..
    ====================
    This team is in his image.

  115. BeholdArNo March 26th, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    Honestly, I wouldn’t put Lebron in the same class as Kobe. Speaking of the current. Lebron still hasnt learned to shoot from the outside. Most athletic player and best all-around player in the NBA, but he still cant shoot.

  116. mick March 26th, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    Not making the playoffs and losing the money to 1 or 2 games would really irk Dolan, as if he needs the money.

    He will blow this team up .

  117. Rich in NJ March 26th, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    I think D’Anton’s system sucks, mick, but that’s not true.

    The old adage is that a team is never has good as it looks when it’s winning nor as bad as it looks when it’s losing.

    We’re seeing the latter example.

  118. Against All Odds March 26th, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    # Betsy March 26th, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    Odds, maybe this off-season I’ll feel better about them – eh, probably not. I’m not sure the Knicks care at this point, so I wonder why fans should.

    I also wonder why anyone would pay the 49% increase in ticket prices – think Dolan acted prematurely, lol?

    ——————————-

    They were going to raise the tickets regardless since the Garden will be renovated but yes he could have tried to kept it quiet lol.

    The off season will be telling. Hopefully Donnie gets extended and then they can move on from there

  119. mick March 26th, 2011 at 10:39 pm

    The old adage is that a team is never has good as it looks when it’s winning nor as bad as it looks when it’s losing.
    ===========
    They are worse than they look.

  120. BeholdArNo March 26th, 2011 at 10:39 pm

    I think Yao Ming is a free agent. Could be a low-cost high-reward pickup. Cant imagine him demanding too much in FA. If healthy, would be huge. And why wouldn’t he want to play on the greatest stage in the world….

    Of course, _’Antoni’s system wouldn’t be a fit for him.

  121. Rich in NJ March 26th, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    Step away from the ledge, mick.

  122. mick March 26th, 2011 at 10:41 pm

    As far as the Knicks go they are a diversion to get me to the Yanks.

  123. mick March 26th, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    And through the winter. Along with football.
    Tough with the Knicks and Jets but will have to do.

  124. mick March 26th, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    Once the Yanks are on these other losers can go f themselves for the ogita they have caused me and others…

  125. mick March 26th, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    …but that’s entertainment.

  126. joeman March 26th, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    are the Knicks better off before the trade or after in the long run

  127. BeholdArNo March 26th, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    Holy Moly! This Rose is unbelievable. Could anyone imagine how good the Bulls would have been with Lebron, Rose, and a real coach unlike Spoelstra.

  128. BeholdArNo March 26th, 2011 at 10:52 pm

    Bulls with a huge comeback win! They trailed all game until 3 minutes left in the game.

  129. Against All Odds March 26th, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    Rose is a star in the making. I remember during the off season he came out and said why can’t I be the MVP. Many ppl laughed when he suggested it but he has the last laugh now.

  130. Pat M. March 26th, 2011 at 11:01 pm

    Betsy….When you stated that The Knicks don’t care, were you referring to the Owner or the Players ???? Either way I don’t see that to be the case…..Let’s see how we do come that first round as I think they’re going to shock some much like the 99 team did….

  131. GreenBeret7 March 26th, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    The Knicks are the Mets of the NBA.

  132. Rich in NJ March 26th, 2011 at 11:06 pm

    Except for the money aspect.

  133. SAS March 26th, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    Just got in. Dickerson looks like a good pick up. I am wondering if he stays with the Yanks or goes to the minors

    GB, Pat M.,

    Your thoughts please.

  134. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 26th, 2011 at 11:19 pm

    We interrupt this regularly broadcasted program to bring you the following announcement:

    THE SUX HAVE LOST THEIR NINTH STRAIGHT SPRING TRAINING GAME

  135. yankeefeminista March 26th, 2011 at 11:26 pm

    Feliciano has been DL’ed.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03.....nkees.html

  136. tyanksfan36 March 26th, 2011 at 11:27 pm

    Trisha

    They had a sizeable lead going into the 8th and by the bottom of the 9th they were down a run.

    I hope there’s nothing wrong with B*bby J*nks :( nothing a DL stint can’t cure lol

  137. yankeefeminista March 26th, 2011 at 11:28 pm

    Actually headline is a hypothetical. He may be DL’ed. Go back to hoops.

  138. Rich in NJ March 26th, 2011 at 11:31 pm

    I hope the RS go 0-162, but I can’t get too juiced up about ST.

  139. SAS March 26th, 2011 at 11:32 pm

    Trisha,

    When they are real games, I’ll get excited.

  140. tyanksfan36 March 26th, 2011 at 11:34 pm

    Yankeefem

    I missed your previous post aimed at me. Sosa only ended up on base once and it was due to either a HBP or walk. I wasn’t paying attention to balls and strikes so when he got on I wasn’t sure which occured. Once he got on he stole the bases fairly quickly.

    Joseph didn’t play, but acted as the 1B coach.

    Suttle looked really good on first, no big mistakes or tough plays. I wish he had played some 1B when he was in Tampa. He went 0-3 though on offense.

  141. GreenBeret7 March 26th, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    SAS March 26th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
    Just got in. Dickerson looks like a good pick up. I am wondering if he stays with the Yanks or goes to the minors

    GB, Pat M.,

    Your thoughts please

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    SAS, good evening. Hope all is well with you and family.

    Right now, I’m guessing he goes to Scranton unless NNYs take 5 outfielders north with them. Of course, if Granderson goes on the DL and Dickerson is healthy, he’ll go north and share time with Jones. If Jones doesn’t play better, he’ll be gone by the end of May and Dickerson will replace him. Golson is almost at the same level.

  142. yankeefeminista March 26th, 2011 at 11:39 pm

    # tyanksfan36 March 26th, 2011 at 11:34 pm

    Yankeefem

    I missed your previous post aimed at me. Sosa only ended up on base once and it was due to either a HBP or walk. I wasn’t paying attention to balls and strikes so when he got on I wasn’t sure which occured. Once he got on he stole the bases fairly quickly.

    Joseph didn’t play, but acted as the 1B coach.

    Suttle looked really good on first, no big mistakes or tough plays. I wish he had played some 1B when he was in Tampa. He went 0-3 though on offense.
    ________
    Thanks for the info, tyf. How were Suttle’s AB’s?

  143. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 26th, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    “Trisha,

    When they are real games, I’ll get excited.”

    SAS, for me, their losing an intersquad game to one of the beantown colleges would be enough to make me smile from ear to ear. Anything that shows who they really are enlivens my being.

    On the other hand, I don’t think anybody would think that losing nine straight games with the beginning of the season right around the corner is a positive sign for any team.

    On a final note, since I know their season is going to be a bust, I don’t think anyone would begrudge me a little ahead-of-time happiness each time they do something to make it totally apparent.

    :)

    I’ve never needed an army with me to enjoy the war.

  144. Rich in NJ March 26th, 2011 at 11:42 pm

    On second thought, I would rather that the RS go something like 79-83.

    Perpetual mediocrity is the worst thing that can happen to a sports franchise.

  145. LGY March 26th, 2011 at 11:45 pm

    They keep score in ST?

  146. tyanksfan36 March 26th, 2011 at 11:45 pm

    Yankeefem

    From where I was sitting it was hard to see the batter/catcher. In his 3 AB he went: ground ball to short, fly out to center and strikeout looking.

  147. LGY March 26th, 2011 at 11:47 pm

    In all seriousness, ST is like one of those stupid kids leagues where everyone just gets a participation trophy at the end.

    Only the crazy parents keep track of the score and standing.

  148. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 26th, 2011 at 11:49 pm

    Rich and SAS – spoken like true geographically-distant (from the Sux) Yankee fans.

    We who live in the Suxers back yard feel intense pleasure at anything that causes them pain.

    To me it’s akin to NYers who cannot stand the Mets. The people who feel that way just about live to see them suffer. The Mets don’t bother me at all.

  149. Jerkface March 26th, 2011 at 11:50 pm

    The Yankees should not sign left handed relief pitchers. Dooms them.

  150. LGY March 26th, 2011 at 11:50 pm

    Next week the Red Sox will either have a one game winning streak or a one game losing streak and that will be the only thing that matters.

  151. Pat M. March 26th, 2011 at 11:52 pm

    SAS……I really don’t know much about him other than he lloks like a utility outfielder who hits from the left side……Looking over his stats it appears that he whiffs more than you’d like for someone who doesn’t hit dingers………But as of a week ago I was expecting a resin bag in exchange for Sergio Mitre

  152. GreenBeret7 March 26th, 2011 at 11:53 pm

    It isn’t about anything more than tweaking the trolls in drag that show up in here.

  153. LGY March 26th, 2011 at 11:53 pm

    I’m pretty sure st loses are not causing anyone pain.

    I don’t have the slightest clue what the Yanks record is.

  154. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 26th, 2011 at 11:55 pm

    And for the posters here who totally get it and ask me to continue to bring it on whenever I have it, this one is for you!

    That would be at least mel, blake, bojo, and j alfred. I believe it also might include Big Al.

    HE SUX HAVE LOST THEIR NINTH STRAIGHT SPRING TRAINING GAME!!!!!

  155. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 26th, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    If I have included any of you wrongly, please let me know. I would never want to give that high praise without someone truly deserving it.

    :)

  156. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 27th, 2011 at 12:01 am

    GB, it’s amazing that you would even have to explain something like that.

  157. SAS March 27th, 2011 at 12:08 am

    Trisha,

    I did smile from ear to ear, and I am one of those Yankee fans who cannot tolerate the Mutts.:smile:

  158. LGY March 27th, 2011 at 12:12 am

    Troll seek attention. Tweaking them is ignoring them. This just encourages trolling.

  159. West Coast Yankee Fan March 27th, 2011 at 12:13 am

    I wonder if Feliciano going on the DL means Prior goes north – or are they so married to having two lefties at the beginning of the season they’ll go with someone like Sisco.

  160. stuckey99 March 27th, 2011 at 12:13 am

    “Montero would have been in the majors at some point last season with most clubs. The Yankee don’t give young position players a shot until they are basically forced to.”

    Yankees went with Brett Gardner over the objections of a LOT of fans.

    Held onto Hughes when Santana was there’s for the asking.

    I don’t see any evidence that this is true.

  161. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 27th, 2011 at 12:14 am

    Well time to catch me a little shut eye. I’ll fall asleep dreamily thinking of those 9 straight Suxers losses.

    Simple pleasures.

    :)

    Night all.

  162. stuckey99 March 27th, 2011 at 12:16 am

    Blood is in the water at MSG and the sharks are out.

    Don’t remember much Knicks talks around here. But as the losing streak increases, the interest/discussion increases.

    Pretty interesting dynamic.

  163. Rich in NJ March 27th, 2011 at 12:16 am

    Rich and SAS – spoken like true geographically-distant (from the Sux) Yankee fans.

    No, I just don’t care about ST.

  164. BeholdArNo March 27th, 2011 at 12:17 am

    The “Mutts” How original :sarcasm:

  165. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 27th, 2011 at 12:18 am

    “No, I just don’t care about ST.”

    Whatever.

  166. LGY March 27th, 2011 at 12:18 am

    Stuckey

    Gardner was the only option.

    And Hughes example does not apply remotely to what I said

  167. BeholdArNo March 27th, 2011 at 12:18 am

    Nobody cares about wins and losses in ST. red sox fans are not going to lose sleep over ST losses.

  168. LGY March 27th, 2011 at 12:20 am

    Stuckey

    There was a lot of Knicks talk pre Melo trade before you returned. Has gradually died down until this losing streak.

  169. GreenBeret7 March 27th, 2011 at 12:25 am

    It’s not definite that Feliciano is going on the DL. He’s going to try pitching in the next 3 days…..unless someone has something different than the article that was just posted that said “possibly”.

  170. stuckey99 March 27th, 2011 at 12:25 am

    LGY,

    Why wasn’t Matt Holiday an option? Jason Bay? Mike Cameron?

    Johnny Damon when all was said and done?

    How so you know a trade wasn’t an option?

    I missed the “position” player qualifier.

  171. LGY March 27th, 2011 at 12:29 am

    The Yankee spent Matt Holiday money on Tex. He was never a real option.

    The Yankees also offered Damon more money than any other team and negotiated with him until the bitter end.

    Damon stupidity is what kept him from being the Yankee LF.

  172. LGY March 27th, 2011 at 12:32 am

    The Yankee already traded for Granderson. It is not realistic to think they also could have and would ne willing to acquire a LF.

  173. SAS March 27th, 2011 at 12:33 am

    The comments made by Feliciano were terrific. He certainly has the right attitude….now he just needs to pitch like that. I am quite sure Girardi won’t let him pitch in 92 games.

  174. GreenBeret7 March 27th, 2011 at 12:36 am

    SAS,

    With the bullpen the Yankees have, and with 2 left handers, I can’t imagine Girardi having Feliciano pitching in more than 70-75 games, if that much.

  175. Vineyard Yankee March 27th, 2011 at 12:39 am

    Re: The Knicks

    At the end of the season Isiah will get Dolan’s ear ( again ) and fire D’Antoni. Donnie Walsh will be fed up with the Dolan / Thomas meddling and will leave.

    Guess what the Knicks will still stink no matter who they bring in to coach and play ( short of Bron or Kobe ) and they ain’t com’in.

    The same old deal…………………..crap at MSG. You Knicks Fans should be used to it by now.

  176. stuckey99 March 27th, 2011 at 12:40 am

    I have a hard time believing the Yankees couldn’t have scared up a veteran outfielder somewhere.

    I think there was an element of proactive choice in Gardner being ONE of their outfielders.

    And what other position player since Cano have they had in the system that never got their chance?

    Austin Jackson?

  177. Rich in NJ March 27th, 2011 at 12:41 am

    The Knicks will be good next season, imo, if they are smart.

  178. LGY March 27th, 2011 at 12:46 am

    “I have a hard time believing the Yankees couldn’t have scared up a veteran outfielder somewhere.”

    They did. They brought in Marcus Thames and Randy Winn as insurance.

    “I think there was an element of proactive choice in Gardner being ONE of their outfielders.”

    Obviously, there was some level of proactive choice. Even with the Cano-Womack situation or Jeter-Fernandez there is some level of it. Nothing can literally force the Yankees into something.

    “And what other position player since Cano have they had in the system that never got their chance?”

    Who said players never get a chance?

    The point is the chance comes after injury or just complete and utter ineffectiveness, or literally no other reasonable option.

  179. Vineyard Yankee March 27th, 2011 at 12:53 am

    The last time the Knicks were smart was when Holzman was still around.

  180. GreenBeret7 March 27th, 2011 at 12:53 am

    Shane Spencer, Eickey LeDee and Erick Almonte all had a chance, but after initial success, never could follow it up.

  181. stuckey99 March 27th, 2011 at 12:53 am

    Okay, maybe I misunderstood you.

    If by “forced to” you mean trade away or let a viable free agent walk to make room for a rookie position player, guess I really can’t argue other than to say Cashman really hasn’t had many high ceiling guys worth carving a space out for.

  182. Rich in NJ March 27th, 2011 at 12:54 am

    Nah, the Riley/Checketts Knicks were run well, and the Bianchi/Pitino Knicks were run OK too.

  183. MG March 27th, 2011 at 12:58 am

    I guess Pat Reilly and Jeff Van Gundy are real dummies, huh?

    The Knicks missed winning the championship in ’93? only because Starks shot 3 for about 20 in the either game 6 or game 7 of the finals. They could have easily won at least one more except for having the Bulls to get through.

    They’ve sucked for 10 years and have a horrible, horrible owner but Donnie Walsh is one of the best execs around, it isn’t his fault that the great Isiah left such a mess it took a complete tear down to give them a chance.

  184. GreenBeret7 March 27th, 2011 at 12:59 am

    Add Andy Phillips, Alfonso Soriano, Juan Rivera and Nick Johnson.

  185. LGY March 27th, 2011 at 1:00 am

    stuckey,

    It is not just that. The Yankees do take proactive steps to prevent these players from getting the spot.

    When these steps fail, finally the young player gets a chance.

    The Yankees had to fail to sign Johnny Damon to give Gardner a shot. You seem to be ignoring that.

  186. SAS March 27th, 2011 at 1:01 am

    GB.

    Glad you hadn’t fallen asleep yet. The problem is I am a night owl because I usually nap during the day, and everyone else is asleep.

  187. SAS March 27th, 2011 at 1:02 am

    Alfonso Soriano is on my fantasy team. All I want is lots of HR’s and extra base hits.

  188. SAS March 27th, 2011 at 1:03 am

    I don’t know if this was mentioned or if anybody cares, but Geraldine Ferraro died, only 75.

  189. Rich in NJ March 27th, 2011 at 1:06 am

    “I don’t know if this was mentioned or if anybody cares, but Geraldine Ferraro died, only 75.”

    This is a big compliment coming from me: She was sort of hot when she was young.

    Anyway, RIP.

  190. GreenBeret7 March 27th, 2011 at 1:06 am

    SAS, yes, I posted that early today. Sad day for her followers. I’m not a follower of any party, but, she opened a lot of doors for women and did a lot for everyone as far as I can tell. Anybody that can fight cancer for 12 years gets my vote for gutsy person.

  191. tyanksfan36 March 27th, 2011 at 1:08 am

    I’m finally home so I can start posting the game notes I took. I would attempt to put it all into a scorecard but I think that might make things worse.

    SAS

    I am a night owl too. But because I still have that young blood in me, eventually it will all be gone and ill be in bed by 9 every night.

  192. Vineyard Yankee March 27th, 2011 at 1:14 am

    Yeah, I’ll give you that, they had a nice run there with Pitino and Riley. Bottom line is they haven’t won it all in almost 40 years.

    I think Walsh is a very good exec., too bad Isiah is back again, maybe for a second harassment suit with another secretary. Dolan and Thomas are made for each other. Sad.

  193. Vineyard Yankee March 27th, 2011 at 1:15 am

    Trisha posted the Ferraro news this morning.

  194. SAS March 27th, 2011 at 1:16 am

    I mentioned Ferraro mostly from an historical point of view. Whether or not one liked her or not, she was the first woman to run for National office.

  195. Rich in NJ March 27th, 2011 at 1:17 am

    The Knicks have always been a win-now team and winning now usually means never winning.

    But I still believe that now that they have two elite or near elite players under 30, winning is more likely than it has been since Riley left.

    Of course, having a Riley-esque coach would help a lot.

  196. SAS March 27th, 2011 at 1:20 am

    In retrospect this is funny, but I didn’t find it so in real time. I am literally getting married in 1970; the Knicks are playing and my husband and brother in law, who was the best man came to the ‘alter’ and told all the guys the score of the game. I was literally ready to kill them. Remember, this is before telephones were mobile.

  197. GreenBeret7 March 27th, 2011 at 1:24 am

    SAS March 27th, 2011 at 1:16 am
    I mentioned Ferraro mostly from an historical point of view. Whether or not one liked her or not, she was the first woman to run for National office.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    SAS, you’ll get no argument from me on it. One day, there will be a lady president, but, it’ll need to be a crusty old broad (I mean that affectionately) like Margret Thatcher.

  198. GreenBeret7 March 27th, 2011 at 1:26 am

    SAS March 27th, 2011 at 1:20 am
    In retrospect this is funny, but I didn’t find it so in real time. I am literally getting married in 1970; the Knicks are playing and my husband and brother in law, who was the best man came to the ‘alter’ and told all the guys the score of the game. I was literally ready to kill them. Remember, this is before telephones were mobile.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    It would have been acceptable and understandable if it were the Yankees…but THE KNICKS?

  199. SAS March 27th, 2011 at 1:28 am

    GB,

    I was trying to think of crusty old broads in the Congress. We do have a few.

  200. Vineyard Yankee March 27th, 2011 at 1:29 am

    Yes indeed, the glory days of Holzman, Reed, Clyde, DeBusschere, Bradley & Co.

  201. SAS March 27th, 2011 at 1:30 am

    GB,

    Exactly….even though the Knicks were terrific. It was MY wedding. Now everywhere you go, people are on their darned phones. I am not one of them…too crusty and old.

  202. GreenBeret7 March 27th, 2011 at 1:30 am

    SAS, Shirley Chisolm from years ago comes to mind, but, none from any time lately.

  203. SAS March 27th, 2011 at 1:31 am

    VY,

    Those couple of years, all NYers were Knicks fans. The last time it happened.

  204. GreenBeret7 March 27th, 2011 at 1:32 am

    SAS March 27th, 2011 at 1:30 am
    GB,

    Exactly….even though the Knicks were terrific. It was MY wedding. Now everywhere you go, people are on their darned phones. I am not one of them…too crusty and old.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    It’s quality crust and vintage, SAS.

  205. SAS March 27th, 2011 at 1:32 am

    GB,

    Nancy Pelosi and Barbara Boxer to name 2.

  206. Rich in NJ March 27th, 2011 at 1:33 am

    There’s a crusty old broad at Foggy Bottom, who’s probably more qualified than any person walking the planet.

  207. Vineyard Yankee March 27th, 2011 at 1:33 am

    So long as it isn’t Pelosi.

  208. stuckey99 March 27th, 2011 at 1:34 am

    “It is not just that. The Yankees do take proactive steps to prevent these players from getting the spot.

    “When these steps fail, finally the young player gets a chance.”

    Which players?

    “The Yankees had to fail to sign Johnny Damon to give Gardner a shot. You seem to be ignoring that.”

    Not ignoring it. I think the Yankees had soured on Damon defensively and the Yankees were looking to bring him back as an outfielder/DH. Remember, it was the Nick Johnson signing that essentially ended the Damon negotiations.

    It was also AFTER that the Yanks traded Melky Cabrera, further creating AB’s for Gardner. Melky was a starting outfielder for 4 seasons, culminating in have his best season as a starting OF on a WC team.

  209. GreenBeret7 March 27th, 2011 at 1:36 am

    SAS March 27th, 2011 at 1:32 am
    GB,

    Nancy Pelosi and Barbara Boxer to name 2.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    SAS, I was thinking along the lines of a Marjorie Maine (Ma Kettle) type.

  210. SAS March 27th, 2011 at 1:42 am

    VY,

    For my taste none of the women I know of is who I would like to see in office.

  211. LGY March 27th, 2011 at 1:50 am

    Can’t answer you fully right now stuckey but you seem to have a very selective memory of this Grander situation.

    They continued negotiating with Damon adtet

  212. LGY March 27th, 2011 at 1:51 am

    AFTER they signed NJ

  213. Jerkface March 27th, 2011 at 1:54 am

    Gardner is not the same situation as Jesus. He already got play time thanks to injury and ineffectiveness.

  214. Jerkface March 27th, 2011 at 1:56 am

    It is easier for the Yankees to consider a player if he has had time in the majors, but find a position player that broke camp without prior major league experience in a role that carried considerable play time.

  215. Jerkface March 27th, 2011 at 1:59 am

    Infact, find a starting pitcher that made a rotation out of spring without prior major league experience.

    First you need to somehow get major league playtime, then you can be in the mix out of spring. Jesus won’t get his shot until he can bust in thanks to someone elses misfortune.

  216. stuckey99 March 27th, 2011 at 2:03 am

    “They continued negotiating with Damon AFTER they signed NJ”

    Right, and never decided to meet his demands. Point is, Yankees had other options. The ultimately decided to go with Gardner.

    ‘It is easier for the Yankees to consider a player if he has had time in the majors, but find a position player that broke camp without prior major league experience in a role that carried considerable play time.”

    Think I already answered that question.

    Still waiting for an answer as to which players demonstrate the rule LGY cited?

    Who is still sitting in the minors or is being productive for another team due to the Yankee’s reluctance to break camp with a player without prior major league experience in a role that carried considerable play time?

  217. stuckey99 March 27th, 2011 at 2:09 am

    Do Ian Kennedy’s 3 starts in 2007 count as “prior major league experience?

    “Jesus won’t get his shot until he can bust in thanks to someone elses misfortune.”

    I can’t say I understand the view that if Montero is busting it up in Scranton the Yankees won’t make room for him. That strikes me as a perception colored by disappointment.

  218. Rich in NJ March 27th, 2011 at 2:10 am

    The point is that you get very little time to succeed as a Yankee prospect after a promotion to ML club. One example is IPK.

  219. stuckey99 March 27th, 2011 at 2:14 am

    Phil Hughes, Joba Chamberlain, David Robertson, Brett Gardner, Francisco Cervelli and Robinson Cano might disagree with you.

  220. Vineyard Yankee March 27th, 2011 at 2:22 am

    Then there was Austin Jackson…………………………………….

  221. Tar March 27th, 2011 at 2:26 am

    Then there was Mariano Rivera………..

    I don’t believe Mo was very successful at first either.

    Good thing the Stick was around.

    Why am I up. Good night all.

  222. Jerkface March 27th, 2011 at 2:28 am

    Then there was Mariano Rivera………..

    You mean the guy that got like 10 major league starts before being relegated to the bullpen? :)

  223. Jerkface March 27th, 2011 at 2:31 am

    Phil Hughes, Joba Chamberlain, David Robertson, Brett Gardner, Francisco Cervelli and Robinson Cano might disagree with you.

    These guys that were all succeeding after they were called up?

  224. Tar March 27th, 2011 at 2:34 am

    You mean the guy that got like 10 major league starts before being relegated to the bullpen?

    Holy crapski, Mo would have stayed a starter if the Dark Side was in power. :D

    It bears repeating, Good thing the stick was around.

  225. Jerkface March 27th, 2011 at 2:36 am

    Holy crapski, Mo would have stayed a starter if the Dark Side was in power.

    Imagine Mariano Rivera pitching 200 innings a year, he’d be sitting on 400 wins.

  226. Tar March 27th, 2011 at 2:42 am

    “Imagine Mariano Rivera pitching 200 innings a year, he’d be sitting on 400 wins.”

    :D

    One thing I have learned is never doubt Mo.

    Jerk one last thing before I shut my computer and go to bed. STOP WHINING ABOUT MONTERO :D

    It doesn’t matter what you answer because I cant hear you.

  227. West Coast Yankee Fan March 27th, 2011 at 3:45 am

    MG March 27th, 2011 at 12:58 am

    The Knicks missed winning the championship in ’93? only because Starks shot 3 for about 20 in the either game 6 or game 7 of the finals.

    ****************

    Nah. It was because Hakeem Olajuwan was a better center than Patrick Ewing and the Rockets a better all-around team.

  228. Doreen March 27th, 2011 at 6:54 am

    Good morning, morning people.

    :)

    Breaking in for the New York Yankees is a unique situation. I can’t say the Yankees’ approach is incorrect when you consider all the factors involved.

    ****

    Just before I went to bed I had tuned into the replay of yesterday’s game, in time to hear the 4th inning interview with Joe Girardi.

    When asked about the catching situation, he stated they were concerned that the backup was only going to start 4 to 5 games in April. That’s the sticking point. The young guys who could really benefit from playing every day would be sitting on the bench, and never get a chance to get going. If they start in AAA/AA, they get an opportunity to get their season in gear before being called up.

    In addition, he explained that Molina was getting all these innings now because he wasn’t getting them before, and since he’s in the mix, he needs to catch all the pitchers at some point. But no decision had been made yet.

    I’ll tell ya, I feel a lot better about the situation having heard from the horse’s mouth, so to speak, than I did from the accounts of the situation I read here.

    Now, I don’t know how the situation will unfold, and I don’t know how Cervelli will figure into things, which for me is the “area of confusion.” If they do have it in the back of their minds that Montero (or Romine for that matter) will be called up after April, when playing time can be more regular, then something has to give (unless they carry 3 catchers, but still, someone won’t be getting enough playing time, so I don’t see that happening).

  229. MTU March 27th, 2011 at 7:47 am

    Good morning Doreen.

    Only a few days to the start of the season.

    Can’t wait. It’s been a long Winter especially for people in the snowbelt.

  230. Doreen March 27th, 2011 at 7:53 am

    Good morning, MTU -

    Sure has been a long winter. Felt longer than most.

    Even though it’s been chilly the last couple of days, the sky has been bluer and clearer and the birds are chirping more happily, so it definitely feels like spring!

  231. MTU March 27th, 2011 at 8:02 am

    Doreen-

    As far as the Catching situation I thought for sure after Cervelli went down that Jesus was going North.

    Even though it hasn’t been announced yet I would be surprised if he did.

    I think I understand all the issues involved because they have been discussed Ad Nauseum including the playing time one.

    Once Cervelli comes back he will be the BU catcher until Montero is the finished product.

    Who knows when that might be ?

    Perhaps, if Cervelli falters in a big way ( I don’t think he will), or at or near the TD.

    I wonder if they would attempt to trade Cervelli rather than sending him back down to AAA toi make room for Jesus ?

    Would like to see Martin do well.

    I guess we’ll see how it all unfolds.

    At least we get to watch Nova.

    :)

  232. Doreen March 27th, 2011 at 8:08 am

    MTU -

    Yup, we just have to watch and wait. :)

    It really is too bad Cervelli got hurt…

  233. MTU March 27th, 2011 at 8:13 am

    Other items :

    Nunez over Pena please. Better stick. More versatile.

    I would have reversed Colon and Freddy.

    Neither guy has much experience coming out of the pen.

    Girardi’s argument about why Bartolo fits better in the pen seemed
    questionable to me.

    The idea that Colon is anything like Aceves or Mendoza remains to be seen, and I do not like the idea of Bartolo sitting on his can that much.

    They know more than we do so I hope that their evaluations turn out to be correct.

    :)

  234. MTU March 27th, 2011 at 8:19 am

    Doreen-

    I hate it when any of our guys injures themselves.

    Cervelli has had particularly bad luck. I feel for him.

    He’s a good kid and a hard worker. Gotta like that.

    Here’s to hoping he heals quickly and well.

  235. MTU March 27th, 2011 at 8:34 am

    It looks like Feliciano will start the season on the DL.

    Possible replacements:

    Ayala (r), Sisco(l), Garrison (l), or Sanchez (r)

    I know that Garrison was being stretched out to start but he is left-handed and looked good this Spring. Ayala looked good too but he is a righty. Sanchez is out of options. Sisco throws hard and is a lefty but someone needs to show him where the plate is.

  236. MTU March 27th, 2011 at 8:41 am

    New thread ==>

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